[Call to Order, Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance and the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution. ]
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>> MAYOR RENO: GOOD EVENING. IT IS 6:00 P.M.
JANUARY 26, 2021. WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL PRESENT.
AND I CALL THIS SESSION OF THE MIDLOTHIAN COUNCIL TO ORDER.
IF COUNCILMAN COFFMAN WOULD LEAD US INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGES.
>> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: BOW YOUR HEAD.
WE COME BEFORE YOU TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND I PRAY AS WE PUSH THE CITY FORWARD I PRAY IT'S NOT MADE BY OUR EARTHLY WISDOM BUT YOU GRANT US HEAVENLY WISDOM AS WE MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BEST REFLECT WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOR THE MOMENT AND THIS DAY. AND MIDLOTHIAN'S HISTORY.
GOD I PRAY FOR -- THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY STAFF AND THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO SERVE THE CITY DILIGENTLY AND SERVE IT SO WELL.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY.
I PRAY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO POUR YOUR BLESSINGS OUT ON EACH AND EVERY PERSON IN AND AROUND MIDLOTHIAN.
THAT REPRESENTS, MIDLOTHIAN. GOD, I PRAY FOR SAFETY FOR ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. I PRAY THAT TODAY, EVEN THIS EVENING IS A GOOD EVENING TO KEEP THEM SAFE.
WE LIFT UP EVERYONE DEALING WITH THE SICKNESS AND HEALTH ISSUES FROM COVID AND THE VARIOUS DISEASES.
GOD, I PRAY YOU BRING YOUR HEALING TOUCH FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
>> MAYOR RENO: THIS WEEKEND WE LOST A DEAR FRIEND AND PUBLIC SERVANT. ED BATEMAN.
ED WAS BORN SEPTEMBER 2, 1945. HE SERVED A AS DALLAS FIREFIGHTER FOR 28 YEARS. A DALLAS PLANNER FOR MANY YEARS.
HE WAS ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. IN THE ARMY '68-'74, BOY SCOUTS, LION'S CLUB, ROTARY, AMERICAN LEGION.
AND ALSO ED SERVED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING UNTIL DECEMBER OF THIS LAST YEAR. WE OFFER OUR GREAT CONDOLENCES TO HIS WIFE TERESA. AND HER FAMILY.
THERE IS A VIEWING TONIGHT AND SERVICES TONIGHT AT 10:00 A.M.
HOWEVER, ATTENDANCE WILL BE LIMITED TO 100 PEOPLE.
BUT YOU CAN VIEW IT ONLINE. SO, ED WAS A GREAT PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE DO MISS HIM.
ALL RIGHT. WE NOW INVITE CITIZENS TO COME
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AND ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. ANYBODY WHO HAS A DESIRE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL CAN SUBMIT A FORM TO THE SECRETARY.YOU WILL NOTE THAT WE HAVE CHANGED OUR PROCEDURES A LITTLE AND FORMS MUST BE SUBMITTED FIVE MINUTES BEFORE COUNCIL.
WE HAVE TWO FORMS, MR. DAVID SMOTHERS A NON-SPOKEER.
I WILL READ HIS COMMENT IN TO THE RECORD.
"THE INTERSECTION AT 653 AND 875 NEEDS A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL MOST CERTAINLY SHOW A NEED FOR AT LEAST A THREE-WAY STOP SIGN. THIS HAS BECOME A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION SINCE THE TRAFFIC HAS OUTGROWN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN IN THE LAST THREE YEARS." THANK YOU, MR. SMOTHERS.
WE NOW HAVE A JOEL KEMPF. IF HE WILL COME FORWARD.
IS HE PRESENT? [INAUDIBLE] IT'S ONLINE BUT HE DID INDICATE HE WANTED TO SPEAK.
BASICALLY, MR. KEMPF IS SAYING WE NEED HIGH-SPEED INTERNET IN MIDLOTHIAN. I'M SURE VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY WILL AGREE TO THAT. SO, THE -- HIS COMMENTS WILL BE PUT IN TO THE RECORD. CONSENT AGENDA, ALL MANNERS
[Consent Agenda ]
LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION WITHOUT SEPARATE DISCUSSION.IF ANY DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> COUNCILMEMBER: MOVED
APPROVAL. >> MAYOR RENO: AND A SECOND.
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PLEASE VOTE. CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED 7-0.[2021-042 ]
REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM 2021-042, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND PARK BOARD TO FILL VACANCIES DUE TO RESIGNATIONS AND THE APPOINTMENT OF COUNCIL BOARD LIAISONS.WE HAVE -- FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, LEE SKINNER HAS BEEN NOMINATED. AND FOR THE PARK BOARD KELLY OSBORNE HAS BEEN NOMINATED. DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> COMMISSIONER: MAKE A MOST TO APPROVE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. APPOINTMENTS PASS 7-0.
COUNCIL HAS ON APPOINTMENTS, THE MIDLOTHIAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, RICHARD RENO, MIDLOTHIAN CORPORATION, JUSTIN COFFMAN. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, TED MILLER. PARKS BOARD, HUD HARTSON.
AIRPORT BOARD, CLARK WICKLIFFE. UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD, WAYNE SIBLEY AND WALTER DARRACH. DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> COUNCILMEMBER: MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: LIAISON POSITIONS APPROVED 7-0. THANK Y'ALL.
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ITEM 2021-043, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM TEAGUE, NALL AND PERKINS, INC., IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE PROGRAM AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 2018 DRAFT "CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN STORMWATER UTILITY FEE STUDY" AND REVIEW, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF.BACK IN 2018, STAFF PREPARED A DRAFT STORMWATER UTILITY FEE STUDY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
THAT WAS BASED ON THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE, ADOPTING THE PROGRAM TO ALLOW FOR STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS TO BE FUNDED AND PAID FOR ACROSS THE CITY.
AT THE MEETING, WITH COUNCIL, COUNCIL HAD MADE A DETERMINATION AT THAT TIME NO ACTION WAS TO BE TAKEN AND THAT THIS WOULD BE POTENTIALLY CONSIDERED AT A LATER DATE.
THE PLAN WAS PUT TOGETHER BY TEAGUE, NALL AND PERKINS.
IT WAS CHARRA WHO IS HERE THIS EVERYTHING AND WE'D GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON WHAT THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE PROGRAM IS AND HOW IT OPERATES AND WORKS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO ASK COUNCIL FOR DIRECTION OR SOME KIND OF GUIDANCE IN WHETHER WE WANT TO PROCEED OR NOT. I'LL TURN IT OVER.
>> THANK YOU, MIKE. >> EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL. CITY MANAGER.
>> MAYOR RENO: GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHO YOU ARE WITH.
>> I'M NARAJ WITH TEAGUE, NALL AND PERKINS.
I SEE A LOT OF THE FAMILIAR FACES AND NEW FACES BUT AS MIKE MENTIONED, I WANTED TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE SUMMARY OF THE STUDY WE PERFORMED IN 2018. BACKGROUND, WHAT IS A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE? IT'S A MONTHLY FEE TO BE USED TO PAY FOR THE STORMWATER RELATED SERVICES AND EXPENDITURES.
WHAT IS STORMWATER RUNOFF? THAT IS ACTUALLY MY HOUSE IN THE BACK. AND WHEN YOU BUY HOUSES NEAR INLETS, WATER TENDS TO COLLECT THERE.
STORMWATER RUNOFF IS WATER THAT DOES NOT INFILTRATE TO THE GROUND AND RUNS OFF. SO YOU WILL HEAR ME TALK ABOUT THE PERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS AREAS.
I WANT TO DISCUSS IT BRIEFLY. PERVIOUS AREAS ARE EFFECTIVELY OPEN SPACES. IMPERVIOUS AREAS ARE FOR EXAMPLE BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOTS. AS MORE IMPERVIOUS AREAS GET CONSTRUCTED, THE GROUND IS ABLE TO INFILTRATE LESS WATER AND MORE WATER RUNS OFF. EVENTUALLY THIS CAN LEAD TO FLOODING, EROSION AND THE OTHER STORMWATER ISSUES.
SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS UTILITY FEE, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS MIDLOTHIAN'S POPULATION LIKE AND HOW IS IT PROJECTING? SO, OF COURSE, QUITE A BIT OF GROWTH IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DECADES. AS WE STAND TODAY, JUST OVER 35, CLOSE TO 36,000 RESIDENTS. SO TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN MIDLOTHIAN. WITH MORE GROWTH COMING.
SO, WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS LOGISTICS OF THE UTILITY FEE. IT'S LEGALLY AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. SO THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEES AS A MECHANISM TO FUND STORMWATER PROJECTS AND EXPENSES.
SO THE UTILITY FEE, ITSELF, CAN BE USED FOR A LITANY OF
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DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. YOU CAN SEE THE LAND ACQUISITION, THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO THE DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER NOW. LAND ACQUISITION FOR STORMWATER PROJECTS, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT, FUNDING PROJECTS, PROFESSIONAL FEES, CONSTRUCTION, SO ON AND SO FORTH. THEY CAN ALSO BE USED TO ISSUE BONDS AGAINST THE REVENUE. SO, A LOT OF POWER IN THE UTILITY FEES IN THAT SENSE. SO WITH THE UTILITY FEES, THERE ARE SOME EXEMPTIONS THAT STATUTE REQUIRES MUST OCCUR.UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY IN THE NATURAL STATE CANNOT BE ASSESSED A UTILITY FEE. A PROPERTY WITH WHOLLY SUFFICIENT PRIVATE DRAINAGE SYSTEM CANNOT BE ASSESSED A FEE.
NOR CAN A SUBDIVIDED LOT THAT DOES NOT HAVE A STRUCTURE OR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THESE PROPERTIES CANNOT BE ASSESSED A FEE. THERE ARE ALSO OPTIONAL EXEMPTIONS. ENTITIES THAT CITY MAY CHOOSE TO OR NOT BILL A UTILITY FEE. THESE INCLUDE THE STATE, COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITY PROPERTY. SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE CHURCHES THAT ARE NOT FOR PROFIT.
ON A FORBID NOTE, CEMETERIES THAT ARE NO LONGER ACCEPTING INTERMENTS. WE LOOK AT ALL THE PARCELS IN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. OVER 11,000 PARCELS.
ALL OF WHAT I'M PRESENTING HERE TODAY IS BASED ON THE DATA WE DEVELOPED IN 2018. I WANT TO MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT EVIDENT. WE TOOK THE LOTS AND SUBDIVIDED THEM TO RESIDENTIAL, NONRESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND EXEMPT AS WE JUST DISCUSSED. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS BY ZONING, NEARLY 90% OF THE CITY IS ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL.
RESIDENTIAL LOTS. VERSUS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS BY LAND AREA, NEARLY 60% OF THE CITY BY LAND AREA IS AN INDUSTRIAL LAND USE. A LIT LITTLE DICHOTOMY.
YOU WILL HEAR ME TALK ABOUT THE UNIT OF THE MEASURE USED TO PRORATE STORM WATER RUNOFF IMPACT COMPARED TO RESIDENTIAL LOTS. I KNOW IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE BUT IT WILL IN A SECOND. IT'S A UNIT SET THE RATE FROM WHICH THE UTILITY FEE WOULD BE DERIVED.
ON MIDLOTHIAN THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZE IS A HALF ACRE. SO, WE ESTABLISH THAT AS THE E.R.U. RATE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STUDY WE CONDUCTED WERE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO ASSESS ALL RESIDENTIAL LOTS THE SAME FEE REGARDLESS OF THE LOT SIZE.
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS IN THE PICTURE BELOW WHERE YOU HAVE A HALF-ACRE LOT AND TWO-ACRE LOT. BUT THE DEVELOPING SIZE, THE IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT CONTRIBUTES TO STORMWATER RUNOFF IS STILL EQUAL SO WE FELT LIKE ASSESSING EVERY RATIONAL LOT THE SAME FEE WAS EQUITABLE. SO NONRESIDENTIAL LOTS, THIS INCLUDES COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, SCHOOLS, CHURCHES.
PROPERTIES THAT TEND TO HAVE MORE IMPERVIOUS AREA.
FOR NONRESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WE HAVE SUGGESTED CHARGING NONRESIDENTIAL LOTS BASED ON E.R.U.S COMPUTED FOR EACH LOT.
SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE IS A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT PICTURED THERE. HYPOTHETICALLY IT'S A FIVE-ACRE SITE. SO A FIVE-ACRE SITE EQUATES TO 10 E.R.U.S ON THE HALF-ACRE LOT RESIDENTIAL SIZE IF IT MAKES SENSE. SO THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE CHARGED TEN E.R.U.S. THEN INDUSTRIAL, A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AND LAND USE IN MIDLOTHIAN.
THERE IS QUITE A DIVERSITY IN HOW THE LOTS LOOK.
YOU HAVE LARGE INDUSTRIAL LOTS THAT HAVE THE VERY LITTLE IMPERVIOUS AREA AND YOU HAVE SMALLER INDUSTRIAL LOTS THAT ARE WHOLLY IMPERSONS YOU. SO IT VARIES GREATLY.
SO FOR THAT REASON, WE HAVE SUGGESTED THAT IF A FEE FOR IMPLEMENTED FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SITES IT WOULD BE BASED ON A CALCULATION OF THE IMPERVIOUS AREA, THAT IS DRIVEWAY, ROOFTOP, CONCRETE FOR EACH OF THE INDUSTRIAL SITE.
OF WHICH THERE ARE ABOUT 300 IN THE CITY.
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BASED ON PARCEL DATA. A SUMMARY, AGAIN, IF A UTILITY WERE ADOPTED, WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDE HERE IS WHAT A SINGLE RESIDENT, A SINGLE HOUSEHOLD, THE FEE THEY WOULD INCUR OVER A GIVEN YEAR FOR A RANGE OF RATES. THE RATE YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, $6 IS HIGHLIGHTED SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT IS THE AVERAGE RATE THAT MOST CITIES IN THE D.F.W. AREA CHARGE.PART OF THIS STUDY WE CONDUCTED A BENCHMARKING STUDY TO SEE WHAT DO CITIES IN THE METRO PLEX CHARGE? SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DO CITIES NEAR MIDLOTHIAN AND SIMILAR IN SIZE AND LOT DIVERSITY, HOW DO THEY ASSESS THE FEES? SO THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL E.R.U. RATE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.
$6. SO AGAIN, WHAT IS PROVIDED HERE IS WHAT THE PROJECTED ANNUAL REVENUE WOULD BE FOR A VARIETY OF THE RATES. JUST TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IN THE REVENUE WOULD BE.
AGAIN $6 IS HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE THAT IS THE AVERAGE FOR MOST OF THE CITIES IN THE AREA. AT LEAST IT WAS IN 2018.
IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER NOW.
NOW THE UTILITY ITSELF MUST HAVE A BASIS.
THERE MUST BE A PROVEN NEED FOR THE UTILITY.
SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT IS A LONG LIST OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT THE CITY DEVELOPED.
MIKE ADAMS OF STORMWATER PROJECTS, STORMWATER OPERATION AND THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS. AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS FOR TROPICAL STORMWATER ACTIVITIES THAT TOTALS OVER $17 MILLION IN THE CAPITAL NEED TO FUND THE STORMWATER PROJECTS.
AND THE STORMWATER ACTIVITIES FOR THE CITY.
TO GENERATE $17.4 MILLION OVER A TEN-YEAR WINDOW, WHICH IS WHAT THIS C.I.P. PROJECTION LOOKED AT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN E.R.U.
FEE OF JUST OVER $11. WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING IF THE CITY CHOSE TO ADOPT A FEE THAT THE CITY USE AN $11.33 E.R.U.
FEE. THIS IS SIMPLY TO SAY THAT TO MEET THE CITY'S TEN-YEAR NEEDS THAT IS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE.
MOST CITIES FIND THAT, THAT NUMBER IS REALLY NOT ATTAINABLE OR PRACTICAL. SO THEY CHOOSE A LOWER NUMBER.
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING GETS ACCOMPLISHED BUT AS THE LIST IS PRIORITIZED THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE TO COMPLETE THOSE T TASKS.
SO IN A NUTSHELL, THAT IS THE 2018 STORMWATER UTILITY FEE STUDY. HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION IF THERE IS ANY TO BE HAD.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT STARTED THE STORMWATER STUDY? FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS?
>> GOOD QUESTION. AS A VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, MY FIRST'S FIRST INVOLVEMENT WITH MIDLOTHIAN ASSISTING WITH WHAT IS CALLED THE E.P.A. MS4 PROGRAM.
UNFUNDED MANDATE WHERE THEY SAID THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN YOU HAVE TO TAKE ON THE STORMWATER ACTIVITIES AND FILE A REPORT ON ANNUAL BASIS. IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF, WHAT BROUGHT ABOUT THIS STUDY IS ARE THERE WAYS TO FUND THE UNFUNDED MANDATES? A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES USE A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE TO FUND THE MANDATES.
THAT IS WHAT BROUGHT THIS ON. >> COUNCILMEMBER: NO FEDERAL
MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR IT? >> CORRECT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: THEY MAKE RULES WITHOUT FUNDING IT?
>> THAT IS RIGHT. FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS, RIGHT?
>> COUNCILMEMBER: ONE THING THAT KUND OF ON THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. THAT COUNCIL LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY. RIGHT NOW WITH A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE DOING THE STORMWATER DETENTION FACILITIES.
THEY ARE PUTTING THE PONDS IN. ONE THING COUNCIL LOOKS AT IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A PROGRAM TO COME IN AND DO REGIONAL SIZE FACILITIES INSTEAD OF EVERY DEVELOPMENT HAVING A REGIONAL SIZE. HAVE MORE PROPERTY DEVELOPABLE IN THE AREAS SO YOU'D HAVE ONE BIG LARGER AREA THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES DRAIN IN TO.
AND THIS PROGRAM, YOU COULD IDENTIFY SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AS WELL. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL ASKED AND LOOKED AT FROM THE STANDPOINT.
ONE THING I'D SAY FROM WHAT WE HAVE NOW THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING, WITHIN THIS YEAR BUDGET OF THE UTILITY FUND WE HAD MONEYS IN THERE TO UPDATE AND IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM IF
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COUNCIL WANTED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.BUT BEFORE WE DID WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THE STEP TO GET DIRECTION. IF COUNCIL SAYS WE WANT TO DO IT, WE WILL PUSH FORWARD AND COME BACK AND DO THE PROGRAM.
IF COUNCIL SAYS NO, WE WANT TO PUSH IT OFF, WE DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR IT WE WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND EXPEND MONEY TO UPDATE PLAN AND THE PROGRAM.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO GET THE DIRECTION
FROM COUNCIL. >> COUNCILMEMBER: HOW MUCH --
>> MAYOR RENO: HOW MUCH MONEY IS ALLOCATED TO DO THE STUDY AND
GO FORWARD? >> THIS THIS YEAR'S BUDGET
$12,500. >> MAYOR RENO: HOW MANY CITIES COMPARABLE TO MIDLOTHIAN DO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS?
WHAT PERCENT? >> I'D GUESS AT A PERCENT BUT I CONJECTURE MOST OF THE CITIES THE SIZE OF MIDLOTHIAN ARE IMPLEMENTING A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.
SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS WE LOOKED AT HERE INCLUDED MANSFIELD, RED OAK, WAXAHACHIE, DE SOTO, LANCASHIRE.
FORT WORTH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER BUT THEY ASSESS A FEE.
DALLAS. MOST OF THE CITIES BECAUSE OF THE UNFUNDED MANDATES AND THE ABILITY THIS BRINGS TO FUND THE STORMWATER PROJECTS HAVE IMPLEMENTED A UTILITY FEE.
>> MAYOR RENO: WOULD MOST BE 75%, 80%, 90%?
>> IF I HAD TO GUESS, 75% IS A GUESS.
>> MAYOR RENO: $17.4 MILLION? >> YES, SIR.
>> MAYOR RENO: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, WHAT DOES IT BUY?
>> $17.4 MILLION IS THE SUMMATION OF THE PROJECT.
>> MAYOR RENO: CAN YOU SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED
WITH THE LONG LIST? >> GOT YOU.
ON THE CITY DEVELOPMENT, IT ACCOMPLISHES DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT ON THE ROADWAY PROJECTS.
OPERATE, MAINTENANCE, OPERATIONS AND THE MAINTENANCE FUNDING.
AND EQUIPMENT COST. IF THE CITY WANTED TO CLEAR DITCHES YOU COULD USE THE DRAINAGE DITCHES YOU COULD USE FUNDING TO BUY, YOU KNOW, DITCH CLEARING MACHINES OR EQUIPMENT.
>> MAYOR RENO: WOULD EVERYTHING GO REGIONAL?
>> LOOKING AT THIS, MAYOR, WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT, PART OF THE REGIONAL, LIKE NUMBER 34, IT'S HARD TO SEE.
KROGER DETENTION POND STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
KROGER HAS A LARGE DETENTION POND.
THE THOUGHT IS CAN IT GO TO THE CITY DETENTION FACILITY BY NAVARO COLLEGE, CREATE IT TO A REGIONAL FACILITY AND HAVE IT, I THINK IT'S 13 ACRES AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT? IF YOU LOOK AT THE 17.4. THAT IS 2.5 MILLION ON THAT ALONE. TAKE THAT $2.5 MILLION FROM THE $17 MILLION. SOME OF THESE ARE ADDRESSED AND DONE NOW. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, HAYES ROAD, HAYES ROAD WEST OF THE LONG BRANCH ROAD.
NORTH OF THE F.M. 1387. THERE ARE PROJECTS AGAIN THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT AND BEING DONE.
WE ALSO HAD REAL QUICK ON THIS, WE HAD THE 14TH STREET.
THE BRIDGE. 14TH STREET BETWEEN 875 AND THE CONNECTION IN DOVE CREEK. JUST THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE THAT IS IN THERE AS WELL. SO THIS IS RUNNING THE FULL CITY. THE $17.4 MILLION, WE KNOW THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER. WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ANNEXATION AND STUFF, THINGS THAT NEED TO AT SOME POINT BE UPSIZED, REPLACED, PREPARED AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS REAL FAST. THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE UTILITY FUND? THE PROJECTS UP THERE CURRENTLY?
WE DIDN'T DO THIS? >> THEY ARE CAPITAL ROAD OR THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. SO WE ARE NOT GETTING FUNDING THROUGH THE IMPACT FEES CURRENTLY?
IF IT'S ON A C.I.P. AND SAY IT IS A ROAD PROJECT AND WE DO 14TH STREET AND IT INCLUDES DRAINAGE STRUCTURE, THAT IS INCLUDE AND DONE. IF WE CAME IN AND SAID WE ARE DOING A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE ON THIS, TYPICALLY THAT IS NOT.
THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE BASED ON THE CAPACITY.
BASED ON THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO IF WE BUILD A NEW ROAD, EXPAND EXISTING ROAD AND IT INCLUDES THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES, YES, SIR. IF WE JUST WANT TO REPLACE A CULVERT BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED THAT ISN'T BASED ON THE CAPACITY WITH THE ROADWAY ITSELF.
IT WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO -- I KNOW THIS IS A MONTHLY FEE FOR RESIDENTS.
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SAY WE HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN AND THEY WANT TO TIE IN, ARE THEY PLAYING A FAT FLEE PER LOT OR ROLL IN ATHEY GET BUILDING PERMIT AND GET C.O.S, IT'S EITHER ON THE UTILITY BILL, WHICH WOULD BE NORMALLY THE WATER BILL.
OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE WATER SIDE TYPICALLY ON THE LIKE IN
THE GARBAGE BILL. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WILL THIS BE UNDER UTILITY FUND OR ITS OWN FUND IN OUR --
>> TYPICALLY IT'S ITS OWN FUND. >> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY.
THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS HOW IS IF WE DID GO THIS ROUTE THE MONTHLY FEE IS IT IMPLEMENTED THROUGH THE WATER BILL, WE ADD
IT TO THE WATER BILL? >> YES, SIR.
IF THEY RECEIVE CITY WATER BILL, IT'S SOMETHING -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THERE WOULD BE LOGISTICS.
RIGHT NOW WE DON'T BILL FOLKS FOR GARBAGE OR IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE CITY WATER OR SEWER. THAT IS THROUGH THE WASTE PROVIDER. THAT IS SOMETHING EITHER THE CITY TAKES OVER AND BUILDS FOR SOLID WASTE OR WORK WITH THE WASTE PROVIDER AND THAT IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT SOLID
WASTE BILL. >> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY.
MY LAST QUESTION, I PROMISE. SO WE GET THIS REGIONAL SYSTEM SET UP AND I'M A CLOSE NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY COULD TIE IN TO THE REGIONAL SYSTEM INSTEAD OF DOING THE DETENTION PONDS WE
CURRENTLY REQUIRE? >> CORRECT.
WHAT WE'D HAVE TO DO ON THIS, THE ONE REALLY LOOKED AT AS AN EXAMPLE LOOKING AT KROGER. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHERS WHAT WE'D HAVE TO DO IS A STUDY TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION.
WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE FOR IT? WHAT AREAS WILL IT PICK UP? THE REGION WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE KROGER ONE, THE STORM DRAINAGE IN 14TH STREET WAS NOT SIZED TO HANDLE A LARGE STORMY EVENT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF THE DETENTION.
SO THE POND WAS THERE. SO WE KNEW IT WAS THERE.
SO WHEN THINGS ARE DESIGNED, YOU ARE RELYING ON THAT POND.
PART OF THE $2.5 MILLION COME IN TO HAVE ADDITIONAL UNDERGROUND STORM DRAINAGE IN TO GET SO IT IT WILL GET ACROSS MOUNT ZION ROAD AND GET TO THE EXISTING DETENTION FACILITY IS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THERE IS A LAG BETWEEN THE FUND BUILDING UP AND THE EXPENSES.
>> THAT IS WHY -- SORRY. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE ABLE TO
ISSUE BONDS. >> MAYOR RENO: BONDS, OKAY.
>> AND PAY FOR IT. SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THESE, LIKE WHEN THEY ARE DOING -- I HAVE SEEN SOME IF THEY ARE DOING A ROAD PROJECT, THEY WILL ISSUE ROAD BOND AND DRAINAGE BOND AND WATER AND SEWER BOND.
FOR THE SAME PROJECT, ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THAT IS HOW YOU WOULD DO IT IF YOU WANT TO GET OUT IN ANTICIPATION OF BUILDING THE PROGRAM WITHOUT MONEY IN HAND.
YOU WOULD BOND IT. >> MAYOR RENO: AGAINST THE FUND. OKAY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: CAN I TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING REAL QUICK? THE E.R.U. COST? YOU MENTIONED -- I'M SORRY.
I'M A.D.D. THAT WAS A FEW SLIDES AGO.
YOU MENTIONED THE RESIDENTIAL HALF AN E.R.U. PER MONTH?
>> NO, SIR. THE E.R.U. WAS BASED ON A HALF-ACRE RESIDENTIAL LOT. SO IN QUERYING THE THOUSANDS OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS ACROSS THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, WHAT WE DETERMINED WAS THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE WAS A HALF ACRE LOT.
WE SET THAT HALF ACRE LOT AS THE E.R.U. SIZE IN ESSENCE.
>> OF ONE. >> ONE E.R.U. IS EQUIVALENT TO
HALF-ACRE LOT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU PITCHED THE IDEA OF DOING $6 PER E.R.U. PER MONTH?
>> THAT IS THE WHAT THE MAJORITY, THE AVERAGE E.R.U.
CHARGE FOR MOST OF THE CITY. >> COUNCILMEMBER: EACH HOMEOWNER WOULD GET $6 WATER BILL.
>> WHATEVER BILLING MECHANISM. CORRECT.
>> THE MORE CONCERNING WAS TO ME IS THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED FIVE ACRE COMMERCIAL LOT. THAT WAS GOING TO BE 10 E.R.U.
>> CORRECT. >> THAT IS $60 A MONTH THAT THE
BUSINESSES WOULD BE -- >> CORRECT.
ALMOST ANY STORMWATER UTILITY WILL REFLECT THAT SAME DISPARITY. THE REASON BEING THAT A COMMERCIAL LOT HAS MORE IMPERVIOUS AREA AND THEREFORE GENERATES MORE RUNOFF THAT IMPACTS THE SYSTEM THAN A HOME
WOULD. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SURE.
MIKE, IS THERE ALTERNATIVES OTHER THAN THIS PROGRAM? ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES TO DO THE PROJECTS? WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THEM ON A SLOWER PACE?
>> A LOT OF THEM ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROADWAYS AND SO IF WE COME IN AND DO ROADWAY PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S A BOND.
ISSUE FOR THE ROADWAY AND REBUILDING THAT ROADWAY.
OR JUST BUDGETING FOR IT IN A YEARLY TYPE OF THING.
IT CAN COME OUT OF WHETHER IT COMES THROUGH THE UTILITY SIDE OR THE GENERAL FUND SIDE. BUT IT CAN BE BUDGETED AS WELL FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. THAT WE ARE DOING FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW? ON THE STORM WATER SIDE.
EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO DO THE STORM WATER PROGRAM WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE. EVERY YEAR WE BUDGET AND IT'S
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ROUGHLY $20,000 A YEAR WE BUDGET FOR SEPARATELY.IT'S INCLUDED SO IT'S NOT COMING FROM THIS PROGRAM.
THIS IS NOT ADOPTED. WE PAY FOR IT FROM THE REGULAR
BUDGET EACH YEAR. >> COUNCILMEMBER: GOT IT.
THANK YOU. >> WE COULD GO OUT AND PAY FOR
>> IS THIS A MUST-HAVE, MIKE? YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT I'M GOING TO PAY ANOTHER $2,000 A YEAR FOR THE WATER RUNOFF ON A HOUSE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS? THAT IS A WHOLE HOUSE PAYMENT TO A LOT OF FAMILIES. YOU ARE PAYING 13 MONTHS OF THE HOUSE PAYMENTS FOR 12 MONTHS OF LIVING THERE.
>> YES, SIR. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS SOMETHING WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO OR CAN WE KICK THIS CAN FURTHER DOWN THE STREET?
>> COUNCIL, YOU, YES, SIR, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THAT ABILITY AND THE OPTION. WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THIS IN 2006 TO 2008. ARE THERE NEEDS OUT THERE? YOU BET. YOU COULD DO STREET SWEEPING.
IF YOU SEE AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE SWEPT, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF IT'S COUNCIL DESIRE TO HEY, WE CAN REVISIT IT. THERE ARE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE STORMWATER PROGRAM. 75% ARE BUT 25% AREN'T.
WE ARE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL. WE DON'T HAVE A TEN-MILE CREEK.
MOST OF IT IS GENERATED IN MIDLOTHIAN.
WE HAD A BIG STORM IN 2018, WE HAD THE LOCALIZED FLOODING.
BUT IF WE WERE IN A STORM THAT SIZE WE COULD HAVE SEEN MORE DAMAGE. WE HAVE THAT LUXURY BEING HIGHER
UP THAN OTHER CITIES. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I WAS GOING TO ASK IT NEXT. WOULD IT INCOMPETENT PACT NOT
TENNER OF BEING FLOODED. >> YOU COULD USIZE MONEY TO DO
THE WORK. >> WE COULD DO WHATEVER WE WANT A MONTH? WE JUST WANT TO GET TO $17?
>> EXACTLY. LOOKING AT IT, THIS IS JUST, COUNCIL CAN SAY 50 CENTS. IT'S REALLY, THE SKY IS THE LIMIT ON LOOKING AT IT. THE INTENT WAS TO LOOK AT WHAT IS MORE OF A STANDARD THAT PEOPLE START OFF WITH.
OVER TIME IT HAS A TENDENCY TO GROW.
THERE IS NOT A MAGIC NUMBER TO PICK.
IT CAN BE LOOKED AT AND STUDIED IN DETAIL.
IF COUNCIL WANT US TO, WE CAN GO THROUGH IT AGAIN.
IF EVEN WE SAID GO THROUGH THIS AND UPDATE THIS.
COUNCIL SAYS SAY WE HAVE TO DO IT OR WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT AT THIS POINT AGAIN. IT CAN BE SET ASIDE.
BUT AT THAT POINT WE COULD COME IN WITH ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION.
LAST TIME WE TOOK IT TO THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL.
THE ADVISORY BOARD ON THE SAME LINE THERE WASN'T A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. WE UNDERSTAND IT.
WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AT THIS TIME.
TO U.A.B. WASN'T READY TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO PULL TRIGGER AND MOVE FORWARD. WE CAN UPDATE IT OR BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL OR SAY YOU KNOW WE'LL WAIT FOR ANOTHER TIME.
WE CAN BRING IT BACK A COUPLE YEARS FROM NOW IF COUNCIL WANTS TO REVISIT IT. IT'S REALLY AT YOUR DISCRETION.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: MIKE, HOW MANY RETENTION PONDS DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA?
>> 30? >> THAT WOULD BE A GUESS.
WITH MOST NEW DEVELOPMENT YOU SEE THEM PUT IN.
MOST ARE DOING IT ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITY OF THE STORM WATER SIDE OF THINGS. IT'S EASY AS FAST AS MIDLOTHIAN GROWING AS SOON AS YOU SEE A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND YOU GET A BIG STORM, SOMEBODY DOWNSTREAM, THEY NEVER DID THAT UNTIL IT HAPPENED. IT'S HARD TO SAY NO, THAT WAS A BIG STORM OR A HIGH INTENSE STORM.
MOST DEVELOPERS ARE SAYING WE'LL PUT THE PONDS IN.
ISSUE THAT WE HAVE, I THINK LONG-TERM IS THAT THE H.O.A.S ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING. WHEN YOU FIRST PUT THEM IN, THEY ARE FUNCTIONING AND OPERATING PRETTY WELL.
OVER TIME ARE THEY REALLY BEING MAINTAINED? WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO DO THE MINUTES ON IT AND TURN AROUND TO CHARGE THE H.O.A. ON THE DETENTION FACILITY MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY COULD BE A NUISANCE AND THEY ARE A NECESSITY AT TIMES. ALMOST EVERY NEW DEVELOP FIRE DEPARTMENT YOU LOOK AND DRIVE THROUGH YOU WILL SEE THEY ARE DONE. THEY ARE DONE FOR A PROTECTION REASON AND COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
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BECAUSE WE ARE CREATING MORE IMPERVIOUS AREA.YOU DO HAVE THAT POTENTIAL LIABILITY OF SOMETHING HAPPENING DOWNSTREAM THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THIS
DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I GOT A QUESTION. NOW WE HAVE ALL THE, I THINK
WHERE IT WAS, IS IT -- >> THEY STILL HAVE A SMALL ONE FOR THE ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHEN HUNTER'S GLEN OFF 663. THEY ALSO HAVE ONE ON THE BACKSIDE. THEY HAVE TWO.
JUST WITHIN HUNTER'S GLEN ALONE. BUT THEN YOU HAVE A BIG POND PICKS UP THE WATER FROM THE COMMERCIAL PARK.
WHERE THE WENDY'S IS AND THE Q.T.
PART OF THAT IS ROUTED THROUGH TO GO TO THE BIG POND OF KROGER.
THAT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE KROGER SITE.
>> OKAY. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER TO FIGURE THOSE THINGS OUT ALONG
>> MAYOR RENO: WALTER IS NEXT. >> AFTER THAT, THAT IS ALL I
WANTED TO KNOW. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO FIRST, LET ME APOLOGIZE. THIS WASN'T IN MY PACKET.
I WASN'T ABLE TO STUDY IT. I'M USUALLY A LITTLE MORE ARTICULATE IN WHAT I SAY. I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS.
LUCKILY FOR ME, THEY WERE VOICED.
TED HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN YOU TRANSFER THIS FEE SCHEDULE OVER TO A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, ACTUALLY THAT WAS JUSTIN SAID THAT. IT COULD BECOME SUBSTANTIAL.
TED BACKED THAT UP WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
MYSELF, MY PROPERTY TAXES WENT UP 58.5 CENTS OVERNIGHT IN DECEMBER OF 2017. THE WHOLE SALE WAS THE CITY WILL DO IT BETTER. THAT IS WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GET US. GET US IMPROVED DRAINAGE AND IMPROVED ROADS AND I HATE TO BE THE ONE TO CAST A VOTE AND SAY, BUT WE JUST NEED $6 MORE PER E.R.U.
CAN WE GO TO THE TEN-YEAR COST. THIS SLIDE, DO YOU EVER BUY A CAR AND THEY PUT EVERYTHING ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER TO REALLY -- I ALREADY KNOW, HUD KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THEY PUT EVERYTHING ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE PAPER.
AND NOT WHAT IS ON THE PAPER. SO, WHAT IS ON THIS PAPER IS SHOWING A TOTAL COST ANALYSIS FOR THE NEED AT $17.4 MILLION.
REQUIRE $11.33 FOR E.R.U. FEE. ON THE PAPER.
BUT ON ANOTHER SLIDE IS A RECOMMENDATION OF AROUND A BALLPARK $6 WOULD BE IN LINE WITH OTHER CITIES.
SO THE $6 IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE FOR ME.
$6 PRODUCED $1.2 MILLION PER YEAR FOR ROLLED OUT TEN YEARS TO GET US $12 MILLION, WHICH IS STILL SHY OF -- IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE -- THE $17 MILLION LISTED AS THE COST OF THE PROJECTS. BUT WE ALL KNOW HERE IS $17.4 MILLION, HELP ME OUT WITH THIS WORD, CLARK.
AMORTIZED. IS THAT THE RIGHT -- OKAY.
OVER TEN YEARS IS GOING TO PRODUCE REALLY MORE LIKE $30 MILLION NEED IN THE END. BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED COST.
I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T GET -- I SAY I HAVE AN ISSUE SAYING I CAN'T GET BEHIND IT. BUT I CAN'T GET BEHIND IT.
IT DOESN'T SEEM TO STACK UP. IT JUST SEEM TO STACK UP.
I FEEL LIKE WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
IF WE CAN'T OR WE SHOULDN'T PUT FORTH THE $11.33 TO MEET THE NEED AS IT IS CALCULATED TODAY, AND EVEN IF WE DID PUT THE $11.33 TODAY WE KNOW THAT COME AT THE END OF THE TEN-YEAR CAPITAL NEEDS COMMITMENT OR CAMPAIGN SO TO SPEAK, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN, IT WOULDN'T MEET THE NEED ANYWAYS.
THEN TO GO BACK TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE TOLD YOUR INCREASED TAXES WILL COVER DRAINAGE AND THE ISSUES AND THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE ARE GOING TO DO IT BETTER THAN THE COUNTY IT'S PUTTING BAD STUFF AGAINST BAD MATH AGAINST TIME.
IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> ONE THING I WOULD SAY ON THAT AGAIN, LOOKING -- YOU WILL SEE THE SAME THING WHEN WE BRING IMPACT FEES TO YOU. WE WILL SHOW YOU THE ROADWAYS, MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLION OF DOLLARS NEEDS.
LOOKING OUT FOR THE TEN YEARS. WE KNOW WE CAN'T FUND THAT.
THAT IS WHAT YOU LOOK AT. THIS IS BASED ON THE $17.4
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MILLION BASED ON THE $11.33 IF WE DON'T GROW.AGAIN, AS YOU ADD, AS YOU ADD MORE ACCOUNTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO YOU CONTINUE TO GROW. SO, AGAIN, YOU DO COVER BUT AGAIN THE INTENT WAS THIS WASN'T WE WANT A BIG NUMBER OUT THERE AND SHOCK EVERYBODY AND SAY THIS IS WHAT IT WILL BE AND WE'LL PULL IT AWAY AND BACK OFF OF IT. THE INTENT IS TO DO THE PROJECTS, THEY HAVE TO BE IDENTIFY AND LISTED OUT.
IF YOU COME IN AND SAY WELL, SO YOU HAVE A LIST, WELL, THIS YEAR WE WANT TO DO THIS ONE PROJECT. IT'S NOT ON HERE, YOU CAN'T DO IT. THAT IS WHAT WHEN WE INITIALLY CAME THROUGH AND DID IT, LET'S GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE TEN-YEAR PERIOD. PUT IT ON HERE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL HAPPEN. MORE THAN LIKELY IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FROM A STANDPOINT OF DOING ALL THE PROJECTS.
BUT IF ONE COMES UP AND IT BECOMES A PRIORITY OR ON THERE YOU DO IT BECAUSE IT'S LISTED OUT THERE.
THAT IS THE INTENT. IT WASN'T TRYING TO COME ONE A
SHOCK AND AWE NUMBER. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SURE.
I KNOW IT'S A LEGAL FUND IN THE STATE OF TEXAS SO THERE IS MECHANISMS IN THERE. I'M HESITANT OF THE WHOLE IDEA THE STATE SAID WE COULD CHARGE YOU MORE AND WE'LL HOP ON THE BANDWAGON AND CHARGE YOU MORE. I DON'T WANT TO BE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT VOTES TO ADD $1 LET ALONE $OF OR $12 OR WHATEVER WE
DECIDE. >> THAT IS THE REASON WE ARE HERE. IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED OR IMPLEMENTED AND WE HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD FOR THE UPDATE.
WE ARE HEAR TO SAY WE HEARD COUNCIL LOUD AND CLEAR IN 2018.
RIGHT NOW, NO. BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION AT ANOTHER DATE. THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO SAY IF WE WANT TO DO IT, WE CAN. FROM OUR STANDPOINT IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WE WILL TAKE IT AND SHELVE IT FOR ANOTHER FEW YEARS. WE'LL DO THE WORK WE ARE DOING.
PUBLIC WORKS GUYS WILL MAINTAIN AND DO THE WORK.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE.
WE HAVE HAD THE STORM EVENTS AND FOR THE MOST PART THE DRAINAGE HAS DONE WELL. WE WILL ADD STUFF TO IMPROVE WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. WE CAN BUDGET ON A YEARLY BASIS.
IF WE NEED TO DO A PROJECT WE CAN BRING TO COUNCIL AND SAY WE HAVE A PROJECT WE NEED TO DO CAN WE LOOK AT HOW TO FUND IT?
>> COUNCILMEMBER: MIKE, $17 MILLION IS DO WHAT IS ON THE LIST, AND WHERE YOU GET THE NUMBER?
>> YES, SIR. >> COUNCILMEMBER: A LOT OF COLORS AND STREET WORK AND DRAINAGE.
YOU DO THAT NOW. IN THE FIRST TEN YEARS.
THERE IS A LOT THAT WOW WON'T HAVE TO DO AFTER THAT, RIGHT,
THAT N THAT SAME AREA? >> THAT N THAT AREA, YES.
IF YOU COME IN AND DO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT YOU LOOK AT WHATEVER THE LIFE IS. THE LIFE IS HOPEFULLY A 30 TO A 50-YEAR LIFE SPAN. IF YOU ISSUE BONDS YOU WANT IT TO AT LEAST LAST THE LIFE OF DEBT SERVICE.
SO IF YOU ISSUE 20-YEAR BOND YOU DON'T WANT TO COME BACK IN TEN YEARS SAY WE HAVE TO REPLACEMENT THOUGH WE STILL HAVE TEN YEARS ON THE BOND. YOU LOOK FOR A LONG LIFE.
YOU GET IN HERE AND GET IT DONE. YOU WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO HAVE OTHER NEEDS ACROSS THE OTHER AREAS BUT THE INTENT IS GET IT DONE AND OFF THE LIST AND YOU WON'T SEE IT AGAIN FOR 20, 30
YEARS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO THE NEXT TEN YEARS MAY NOT BE $17 MILLION?
>> IT MAY NOT BE. >> AFTER ALL OF THIS IS DONE,
THE FIRST TEN, THE NEXT TEN -- >> IT WOULD DEPEND WHAT THE
NEEDS ARE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I UNDERSTAND. BUT THE BIG NEED IS RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY. >> THIS IS COMING THROUGH SAYING WE DON'T HAVE A PROM IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
IT HASN'T BEEN IN PLACE AT ALL. SO THIS IS COMING UP WITH A FULL LIST OF EXACTLY, OF ALL -- LOOKING ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.
WE HAVEN'T DONE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD FUNDING IN PLACE.
SO YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS IS COMING OFF IN THE BEGINNING.
EVERYTHING IS LISTED DOWN AT THIS POINT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: IN THEORY WE COULD FUND ALL OF THIS IN YEAR TWO BECAUSE WE CAN BORROW $17 MILLION BOND AND 20-YEAR NOTE AMORIZED BACK OUT. THAT PART IS ATTRACTIVE TO ME.
WE CAN ISSUE DEBT TO DO THIS. KEEP THE DEBT OFF OF OUR DEBT.
THE PART THAT IS NOT ATTRACTIVE TO ME IS THE EXTRA MONTHLY COST.
>> SURE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT IS WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH. I LOVE THAT.
WE COULD ISSUE $17 MILLION IN YEAR TWO AND WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WE CAN KEEP BONDING IT OUT AND DO A LOT OF PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST THE COST ASPECT OF IT. >> THAT IS THE DEAL.
IF THE COUNCIL IS NOT INTERESTED, IF THE DESIRE NOT TO ADD THE FEE OUTWEIGHS THE DESIRE FOR THE PROJECT, THEN JUST KILL IT. WE DON'T DO IT.
WE JUST DON'T DO THESE PROJECTS INS AS MIKE SAID, IF WE START FLOODING A HOME OR SOMETHING, WE ARE PROBABLY COMING TO YOU AND SAY IN GENERAL FUND BUDGET WE HAVE TO FUND SOMETHING $500,000, $1 MILLION WHATEVER IT IS AND WE'LL TAKE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. WE ARE LOOKING AT A PROGRAM FOR THIS. WE ALSO ARE HEARING BACK THEN AND IT MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE TO THIS COUNCIL.
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WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THE BACK THEN THEY WORRY ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY CONSUMED BY THE DRAINAGE FACILITY.I.E., TEN OR WHATEVER ACRES BEHIND KROGER.
>> WHO WAS -- I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP.
I WANTED TO SPEAK ON. WHO IS SAYING --
>> THE COUNCIL WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT BACK WHEN WE DID THIS.
THE LAST TIME IT WAS LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF THE ACREAGE AS MIKE POINTED OUT. LOOK AT ALL THE DETENTION FACILITIES WE ARE HAVING TO BUILD AROUND TOWN IN EVERY DEVELOPMENT. WOULD IT BE BETTER OFF -- THAT IS A TOUGH CALL. THAT IS WHY WE PROBABLY CAN'T IDENTIFY PRECISELY. IS IT BETTER OFF TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FEW MORE HOMES IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD OR A FEW MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES NEAR KROGER OR WHEREVER THE DRAINAGE FACILITIES ARE RATHER THAN HAVING A BIG DETENTION POND? AND GENERATING REVENUE OFF OF THAT? IT'S THAT DECISION THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT BACK THEN.
THE SAME AS YOU HEAR FROM YOU, THE COUNCIL LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID AH, NOT REAL INTERESTED IN PUTTING THE FEE ON AT THIS POINT. SO, AGAIN A TOUGH CHOICE.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN DURABLE ADDITIONAL FEE ON THE RESIDENTS TO DO SOME OF THE PROJECTS. AS MIKE SAID, WE ARE FORTUNATE IN MIDLOTHIAN WE ARE NOT FLOODING A BUNCH OF HOMES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE A BIG STORM LIKE WE DID TWO YEARS AGO THEY ARE FLOODING A BUNCH OF HOMES.
THEY GOT TO DO SOMETHING MORE QUICKLY AND MORE DRASTICALLY
MAYBE THAN WE HAVE TO DO. >> WE LEAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, TOO. A LOT OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE PUTTING THE PONDS IN ARE USING THEM FOR THE GREEN SPACE,
>> THIS IS TEXAS. 90% OF THE YEAR, 9 A% OF THE -- 95% OF THE YEAR THERE IS NOT ENOUGH RAIN TO DO ANYTHING WITH
THEM. >> THAT IS A CONSCIOUS CHOICE.
YOU MIGHT WANT GREEN SPACE IN THE AREAS EVEN COMMERCIAL AREA.
GREEN SPACE. IT MAY NOT BE THAT USABLE BECAUSE IT HAS OFFENSE BUT IT'S GREEN AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A
BUILDING ON IT. >> MAYOR RENO: I HAVE A CURIOSITY QUESTION BEFORE I GET TO MY REAL QUESTION.
THE $6 AVERAGE, IS THAT AVERAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL HOME OR WEIGHTED AVERAGE THAT INCLUDES BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL?
>> THE E.R.U., THAT IS THE AVERAGE E. R.U. RATE.
>> MAYOR RENO: WHAT IS THE AVERAGE FOR COMMERCIAL?
>> IT VARIES. >> MAYOR RENO: I KNOW.
DO YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE? >> I WOULDN'T ABLE TO AVERAGE IT. IT VARIES THAT DRASTICALLY ACROSS CITIES. SOME CITY DO IT BY LOT SIZE AND
SOME DO IT BY IMPERVIOUS. >> MAYOR RENO: I THOUGHT --
>> YOU CAN EXPECT, YOU WILL SEE THE BILLS IN THE MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS EASILY FOR SOME -- IF YOU THINK ABOUT A LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH A LOT OF PARKING.
IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL. >> YEAH.
>> OR IT COULD BE. >> APARTMENT COMPLEXES, TOO, WILL PAY, YOU KNOW, I'M GUESSING BY THE RUNNING THE MATH IN MY HEAD I'M GOING TO PAY $20,000 A YEAR JUST IN SO THAT MONEY HAS LIKE WHEN MY TAXES WENT UP, I HAD TO RAISE THE RENTS.
ALL THE ACREAGE I HAVE IN THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
THAT WILL RAISE A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE.
>> MAYOR RENO: I THOUGHT A LARGE PART OF THE MOTIVATION WAS TO MOVE FROM INDIVIDUAL RETENTION OR DETENTION PONDS TO REGIONAL PONDS AND TO TAKE ON RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO DISTRIBUTED IT OUT. WHERE I'M LEAPING TO IS THIS IS MORE OF A FUNDING MECHANISM THAN SOMETHING TO MAKE US A COMPLIANT
WITH A STATE REGULATION. >> YEAH.
THERE IS A COMPLIANCE PIECE AS THEY CAN SPEAK TO.
>> WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT STATE -- RELATIVE TO STORMS.
>> THIS IS A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
YOU ARE RIGHT. SOME OF THIS LIKE THE KROGER DEAL WAS A DESIRE TO GO REGIONAL.
NOT EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IS A REGIONAL, YOU KNOW,
PROGRAM. >> MAYOR RENO: THAT GOES BACK TO WALTER AND SOMEBODY ELSE'S POINT.
THE $17 MILLION IS NOT A COMPLETE LIST.
WE COULD COME UP WITH MORE PROJECTS.
>> ROADWAYS, WATER, SEWER. AS THE CITY GROWS THAT LIST IS
GROWING. >> MAYOR RENO: SO IS ANYBODY HERE ARGUING TO DO THIS OR IS THE COUNCIL.
>> I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. >> MAYOR RENO: WE'RE NOT VOTING. WE ARE JUST GIVING DIRECTION.
>> KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. >> COUNCIL BEFORE US WAS WISE TO
HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT IS THIS GOING TO BE ON THE TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD IN TOWN PER MONTH? OR PER YEAR?
>> FOR INSTANCE IF THE COUNCIL ENACTED A -- IF THE E.R.U. WAS
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$2 PER E.R.U. A SI SINGLE HOUSED WOULD PAY $24 A YEAR.SO ON AND SO FORTH. >> MAYOR RENO: THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. AT $6 YOU LOOKING AT $72.
>> I UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT AND I THINK THERE ARE POSITIVES WITHIN IT BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE NEW GROWTH PAYS FOR NEW GROWTH. THIS SEEMS TO BE SORT OF A -- IT'S ARD A HARD SELL FOR THE PERSON WHO LIVED ON 9TH STREET FOR 40, 50 YEARS WITH NO ISSUES OF FLOODING NOW HEY, YOU WILL GET A NEW BILL ADDED ON BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER GROWTH TAKING PLACE. WE'LL IN-FILL THE DETENTION PONDS. IT'S A HARD SELL.
>> SON THE FLIP SIDE ON MY SIDE OF THE TOWN WE THE STORMWATER BACKUP AND A LOT OF FLOODING IN THE LOTS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OVERSIGHT IN SOME OF THAT CUTTING.
SO THE QUESTION I'M GOING TO GET IS YOU ARE HERE LIVING WITH US, WHEN IS OUR STORMWATER FEE GOING TO PUT US IN SOME DRAINAGE?
I HATE TO SET THAT UP. >> I PREFER TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. RE-EVALUATE IN A COUPLE OF
>> MAYOR RENO: I WOULD. >> AGREE.
>> CAME OUT THE FIRST TIME. THIS IS A LOT MORE INFORMATION AS IT CAME ALONG. I THINK THAT IS GREAT.
BUT I'M WITH THEM. KICK IT ON DOWN THE ROAD ANOTHER
COUPLE OF YEARS. >> THAT IS JUST WHAT STAFF WAS ASKING FOR. WE HEAR YOU.
AT THIS POINT WE WILL PUT IT BACK UP AND BRING ANYTHING FORWARD AT THIS POINT. AND APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL INPUT AND DIRECTION. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> MAYOR RENO: THIS HAS BEEN VERY EDUCATIONAL FOR MYSELF.
>> GLAD TO HEAR THAT. THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S TIME.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU.
YEAH, COUNCIL MAY WANT TO SPEAK UP.
THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THAT MUCH SO GOING FORWARD IS SOMETHING I'LL BE MORE AWARE OF.
NEXT TIME YOU BRING IT, SHOULD BE BETTER.
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ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM 2021-044, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A BID AWARD TO TEXAS BIT FOR A PACKAGE OF EIGHT ROADWAY ASPHALT REHABILITATION PROJECTS IN A BASE BID AMOUNT OF $2,229, 179.25 PLUS A 5% CONTINGENCY OF $111,458.96 FOR A TOTAL PROJECT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,340,638.21. I NEED NEW GLASSES.ADAM? >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS OUR ANNUAL ROAD REHAB PROJECTS.
WE DID DISCUSS THIS IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND THE ROAD SELECTIONS. THIS IS A CONTINUATION.
AS I SAID, THIS, THESE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FOOTAGE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE 34,000 FEET, 6.5 MILES OF THE ROADWAY.
WE GO AROUND THE TOWN LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
LOOK AT CERTAIN ROAD TYPES. A LOT OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT PLAY IN. SOME OF THEM TRY TO KEEP THEM LOCALIZED SO WE DON'T USE THE EQUIPMENT AROUND.
YOU SAVE MONEY. YOU MOVE IN PART OF THE TOWN AND YOU CAN DO THE ROADS AND NOT REMOBILIZE AND SPEND $10,000, $15,000 TO REMOBILIZE. WE LOOK AT PART OF TOWN.
LAST YEAR WE HAD LARGE ROADS AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL TO COMPLETE THE TASK. WE WERE HELD UP ON A FEW WITH THE PANDEMIC, WE HELD OFF BUT WE PACED OURSELF AND WE GOT IT COMPLETELY IN A TIMELY MANNER. I WOULD ALMOST PRESENT THE SAME FORMAT TO YOU. I WOULD HAVE THE, IF UPON APPROVAL TONIGHT IF WE NEED TO PACE OURSELVES ON THE SPENDING.
WE WOULD DO THAT. I WOULD TAKE THE DIRECTION FROM CLYDE AND CHRIS AND SAY LET'S NOT DO ALL THE ROADS BUT DO WHAT WE CAN. IF THEY SAY PUT THE GAS PEDAL DOWN WE'LL GET IT DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
THE CONTINGENCY, YOU DON'T PLAN TO USE IT.
BUT LIKE I SAID IT'S A C CONTINGENCY.
THAT IS WHY WE PUT IT IN. THIS IS A BUDGETED ITEM.
TEXAS BIT IS A VERY LARGE, A VERY LARGE COMPANY.
THEY ARE WELL KNOWN. THEY BOUGHT OUT APAC AND OTHER ONES. THEY HAVE THE STAFF THAT IS QUALIFIED. I WILL SAY REYNOLDS ASPHALT DID A GREAT JOB FOR US. THE NUMBER DID NOT COME IN GOOD
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FOR US WITH THEM. THEY CAME IN THIRD PLACE.THESE FOLKS CAME IN FIRST WITH A HIGH RECOMMENDATION.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE HOPEFULLY KICKING OFF THE ROAD PROJECTS. I WILL MENTION THIS IS NOT A CAPITAL PROJECT. THESE ROADS ARE MEANT TO LAST FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS. THEY ARE NOT CONCRETE ROADS AND CURB AND GUTTER. THEY ARE MEANT TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE ROAD. WHAT WE WILL DO IS KEEP MAINTAINING THEM AND COME BACK LATER AND PUT SOME CRACK SEALANT ON THEM OR ON TOP OF THEM TO EXTEND THEM FURTHER.
OUR GOAL IS FURTHER THAN SEVEN BUT I DON'T MAKE PROMISES.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AND WEATHER TYPE WE.
HAVE I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> IT'S BUDGETED, RIGHT? >> CORRECT, SIR.
>> YOU MAY HAVE JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
THE ONLY STRETCH OF ROAD I HAD A QUESTION -- FIRST, IT'S WORTH MENTIONING SEVERAL OF THE ROADS WERE ANNEXED.
>> CORRECT. >> IN THE RECENT PAST.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE CITY.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MCALPIN ROAD.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ADDING MCALPIN ROAD TO THE BOND PACKAGE. PROBABLY A TIMING ISSUE EVEN IF THE BOND WAS APPROVE WE'D STILL HAVE TO DO A TEMPORARY FIX.
>> AS ADAM SAID YOU HOPE TO GET FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
EVEN IF THE BOND PASSES AND YOU LOOK OUT BY THE TIME YOU DO CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT OF WAY AND THE ACQUISITION, I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO, I DON'T THINK YOU WASTE MONEY HERE. IT WILL BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO DO THE FULL PROJECT.
>> AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY BUSY ROAD.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND EVERYTHING.
TRYING TO KEEP IT UP AND KEEP SAFE TRAVEL ON THE ROADS.
GOOD QUESTION. >> MAYOR RENO: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY WILL DO AND WHAT THE COUNTY USED
TO DO? >> THEY USE A CHEAP SEAL.
AGGREGATE UNDERNEATH, GET BASE GOING.
THEY PUT OIL BASE ON THERE AND PUT OIL BASE ROCK ON THERE.
THIS WILL GIVE YOU A LONGEVITY. RIGHT NOW IT PEELS UP.
YOU WENT DOWN, GOING DOWN SINGLETON ROAD WE CHIP SEALED IT AFTER A LARGE PROJECT. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS BUT WE HAD A CONTRACTOR REPLACE THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY TORE IT UP IN THE WATER PROJECT BUT THE PEELING HAS COME UP.
COMES OFF IN THE QUARTER-INCH PEELINGS.
YOU WON'T HAVE IT AS MUCH -- I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE PERFECT. THERE WILL BE SOME ISSUES BUT THERE ARE WARRANTIES AND EVERYTHING.
WHAT THE COUNTY DOES MOST OF THE TIME IS A CHIP SEAL PRODUCT.
WE DO COMPLETE ASPHALT. THAT IS THE STANDARD THESE DAYS.
>> MAYOR RENO: THEY CAME THROUGH OAK TREE EVERY FEW
SLURRY DOWN TO PUT ROCK ON IT. IT PROTECTS THE WEARING SURFACE.
I THINK WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE WE ANNEXED ACROSS THE CITY AS STANDARDIZATION OF THE GOOD QUALITY ROADS.
>> TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION I WAS HOPING TO GO MORE IN DETAIL BUT I LIVE ON PLAIN VIEW. A LOT OF YOU LIVE IN THAT DIRECTION. YOU KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THEY REDID IT. ESSENESSENTIALLY, MAYOR, THEY CE ASPHALT OFF AND GROUND IT OFF. THEY CUT IN THE ROAD BASE.
THEY STABILIZE IT. RECOMPACTED IT.
THEY DID THAT PROCESS SEVERAL TIMES OVER TO GET IT GOOD AND HARD. THEY RELAYED IT.
IT'S MUCH MORE THAN, IT'S MUCH MORE THAN A COUNTY CHIP AND FLIP. IT WAS -- I WAS IMPRESSED.
I WATCHED IT OUTSIDE MY HOUSE FOR A MONTH.
YOU KNOW, I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT ONLY TOOK A MONTH FOR THE RAIN.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS IMPRESSIVE. I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED TO SEE PEOPLE MAYBE ONLINE COMPLAIN AFTERWARDS IT WASN'T A GOOD QUALITY. BECAUSE I DO THINK IT WAS A GOOD
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THAT. >> ADAM, I APPRECIATE THE HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE CITY. CAN YOU BRIEFLY TELL US WHAT GOES IN TO SELECTING THE ROADS? I KNOW THERE IS A WHOLE PLAN.
>> SURE. WE HAVE A SYSTEM CALLED PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WHAT WE DID -- I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THE YEARS. 2017, WE WENT THROUGH AND WE X-RAYED AND CAMERAD THE ROADS. WE GAVE A VALUE OF THE 0 TO 100.
WE WENT THROUGH EVEN, WE DID CITIES WE HAVEN'T ANNEXED, ROADS WE HAVEN'T ANNEXED YET. WE DID E.T.J., POSSIBLE ANNEXATIONS AND THE CITY ROADS AND WE GAVE A VALUE TO THE ROADS. SO, WHAT HAPPENS ONCE WE GET A VALUE, WE HAVE A STANDARD AND WE TRY TO KEEP IT 65 OR BETTER.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS SOME OF THE ROADS STEP UP QUICKER.
WHETHER IT'S THE RAIN, ICE, COLD WEATHER, OR HEAVY CONSTRUCTION.
LIKE WE CAN BUILD A BRAND NEW ROAD AND WE FIND OUT TWO YEARS LATER THEY WILL PUT A SUBDIVISION ON IT AND YOU PUT A 1,000 ROAD TRIP OF CEMENT AND HEAVY CONSTRUCTION SO SOME ROADS DEGRADE FASTER THAN OTHERS. WE DO OUR BEST TO FIGURE OUT THE
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BEST ROADS, THE TRAFFIC. SOME PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THROUGH LAKE GROVE WHEN 14TH STREET WAS BUILT.HEAVY TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE.
WE FIGURE TO GO BACK THROUGH THERE AND GET IT BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN. THERE IS A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. ONCE WE ARE DONE WITH THE AREA, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE AGAIN.
THAT ROAD SHOULD LAST LONGER THAN 5-7 YEARS.
MAYBE NINE OR TEN. SO, I THINK WE GET MORE BANG WITH OUR BUCK WITH THAT. THERE ARE SOME ROADS THAT NEED WORK. WE DON'T GET AN EFFECT.
WE HAVE A ROAD BUT NOBODY LIVES ON THEM.
NO CITY RESIDENT LIVES ON THEM. THERE ARE CHOICES.
WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. SOMETIMES WE CAN SPEND LABOR HOURS OUT CRACK SEALING, POTHOLING AND SPENDING A LOT OF MAN HOURS WITH THE STAFF. WE HAVE STAFF.
GOING OUT THERE, CRACK SEALING EVERY DAY POTHOLING THE MAIN STREET ALL THE TIME IS QUITE LABOR INTENSIVE.
SO IF WE CAN CUT THE HOURS DOWN AND WORK ON THE OTHER ROAD THAT NEEDS MORE WORK OR PULL DITCHES WE CAN DO OR CUT TREES DOWN AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND TAKE CARE OF OTHER SAFETY ISSUES AND LET CONTRACTORS TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS AND WE TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE. THAT IS THE PLAN.
>> MAYOR RENO: HOW BIG IS YOUR STAFF?
>> I'VE GOT 11 PEOPLE ON THAT ONE.
THAT IS WITH THE OFFICE STAFF AND MYSELF.
THAT IS ROADWORK. THAT IS JUST WITH THE ROAD PEOPLE. I HAVE 23 TOTAL IN THE PUBLIC
WORKS. >> WE MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT NEEDED TO BE. ENTERTAIN A MOTION?
IN YES. >> LIKE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: PASS 7-0.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: ADAM IS ALWAYS SO ENTERTAINING. EXCUSE ME CHIEF.
EVERY TIME TIME YOU COME UP HERE I'M OFF MY GAIN.
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ITEM 2021-045, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2020-2021 CONTRACT WITH ELLIS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NO. 2 TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR TRAINING FACILITY ENHANCEMENTS. CHIEF? MAYOR, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO SAY ADAM LOOKED GOOD. DIDN'T HE? HE HAS LOST ABOUT 25 POUNDS. LOOKING A LOT BETTER BACK THERE.>> POTHOLES OUT THERE. >> SO, I'M ASKING TONIGHT TO CONSIDER ALLOWING THE E.S.D. TO AMEND THEIR CURRENT CONTRACT FOR 2021. THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL $145,000 TO CURRENT CONTRACT.
TO ALLOW US TO MAKE SOME ENHANCEMENTS IN THE TRAINING PROGRAM. THE THREE THINGS WE ARE FOCUSING ON IS A SIMULATION MANNEQUIN TO ENHANCE THE E.M.S. TRAINING.
IT'S ABOUT A $25,000 MANNEQUIN THAT ALLOWS FOR OUR PERSONNEL TO GO THROUGH LIVE SCENARIOS AND ACTUALLY START I.V.S, SHOCK THE MANNEQUIN, SEE THE RESPONSE, IT GIVES US REAL WORLD TRAINING WITHOUT ACTUALLY BEING INVOLVED WITH A LIVE PATIENT.
THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE IF WE, IF YOU ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT WE WOULD ADD MODULAR CLASSROOM TRAINING ROOM.
WITH A BATHROOM AT THE NEW TRAINING FACILITY.
CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE A BATHROOM NEARBY.
SO IF WE HAVE A LARGE EVENT WE BRING IN PORT-O-POTTIES OR GO TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. THIS WOULD PROVIDE US WITH A CLIMATE CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT FOR THE VERY ROUGH TRAINING BASICALLY, WHEN WE GO TO TRAIN FOG SILTY OR WALK-THROUGH OR THE POST ANALYSIS OF THE TRAINING WE JUST DID.
WE CAN GO IN THIS FACILITY. DO THAT.
AND THEN GO STRAIGHT BACK IN TO THE TRAINING BUILDING TO START TRAINING. THEN THE LAST THING WOULD BE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL BURN ROOM. WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO CLASS "A" MATERIAL BURN ROOMS IN THE TOWER.
THIS WOULD ADD A THIRD TO GIVE US MORE VERSATILITY.
I'M JUST ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM THEY ARE ASKING TO AMEND THE CONTRACT AND PROVIDE ANOTHER $145,000 IN REVENUE.
I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THAT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: HARD TO SAY WE DON'T WANT YOUR MONEY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER: QUICK QUESTION.
HOW LONG IS THE MANNEQUIN SUPPOSED TO LAST?
WHAT IS THE SERVICE LIFE? >> THE LAST ONE WE HAD -- IT
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DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH WE USE IT. THE MORE WE USE IT, MORE DEGRADATION YOU CAN GET. THE LAST ONE WE HAD IS ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD. THE PARTS THAT WE -- SO LIKE WHEN WE START THE I.V.S, THOSE PARTS ARE REMOVABLE.THERE ARE REPLACEMENT PARTS TO INTERTWINE.
WE KEEP IT IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S ON A STRETCHER DEDICATED TO IN THE TRAINING ROOM.
SO OUR HOPE IS TO GET TEN YEARS OUT OF IT.
THERE IS SOFTWARE UPDATES THAT WE CAN DO WITH IT TO MAKE IT MORE UP TO DATE. IT'S, IT DOES EVERYTHING EXEMPT
TALK TO YOU. >> WHO IS THE VENDOR?
>> PHYSIO CONTROL. OR LAIR DOLL.
UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE A YEAR WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS, THE MANNEQUIN AND THE BUILDING?
>> WE HAVE 66 EMPLOYEES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THAT IS JUST US. SO PRIMARILY WE COULD GET THE DIRECT BENEFIT FROM THAT. OUR TRAINING FACILITY, WE HAVE OUR PERSONNEL, 66. BUT WE ALSO, MANSFIELD COMES TO TRAIN IN THE FACILITY. RED OAK WILL BE OVER IN THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY TO DO SOME BURNS.
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WILL BENEFIT FROM THE ADDITIONS AT THE ACTUAL TRAINING FACILITY. WE DON'T DO CLASSES DOWN THERE.
HAVE ACADEMIES COME IN. BUT WE DO LEND OUT THE PROPERTY TO THE MUTUAL AID COMPANY. FACILITY ITSELF CAN BE HUNDREDS.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL MANNEQUIN HAS A DIRECT BENEFIT TO AT LEAST
>> SURE. >> MAYOR RENO: COMMENTS?
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.
CHIEF, PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL STAY HERE. I GOT ONE MORE.
NOW WE'LL SPEND THAT MONEY. >> MAYOR RENO:
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ITEM 2021-046, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE PURCHASE OF A 24'X36'WILLSCOT MODULAR CLASSROOM FOR THE MIDLOTHIAN FIRE TRAINING CENTER THROUGH THE NATIONAL I.P.A. OMINA PARTNER>> THANK YOU FOR THE PREVIOUS ITEM BASED ON THE APPROVAL OF THAT. THE NEXT ITEM I ASK FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IS THE ACTUAL TRAINING ROOM OR MODULAR BUILDING WE WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE THROUGH THE WILLSCOT.
THIS IS A 24'X36' OPEN STYLE CLASSROOM.
IT'S HEATED AND AIR CONDITIONED. IT WILL HAVE ONE BATHROOM INSIDE THAT IS A UNIVERSAL BATHROOM. PRICE INCLUDES THE DELIVERY AND THE SET-UP. WE WILL DO SOME OF OUR OWN, WE'LL ACTUALLY LEVEL THE AREA OURSELF WITH OUR OWN PERSONNEL AND THE TRACK FORS. WE MAY HAVE TO BORROW ONE FROM ADAM BUT HE IS GOOD ABOUT LOANING OUT HIS STUFF.
OR HELPING US OUT. SO WE'LL GET IT LEVELED, THEY WILL BRING IT IN AND SET IT UP. THEN WE WILL -- THE $145,000 WITH THE THREE ITEMS, LEAVES RESIDUAL OF $9,000 WE WOULD LIKE TO APPLY GET ELECTRICITY INTO IT.
WE NEED TO PUT IN A SMALL SEPTIC SYSTEM FOR THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY. WITH THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COVER THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. THIS WILL PROVIDE US A NICE CLIMATE CONTROL ENVIRONMENT TO TRAIN IN AT THE FACILITY.
I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> MOTION? >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
[INAUDIBLE] HOW LONG UNTIL IT'S OPERATIONAL?
>> THIS IS A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED, SO WE LOOK OUT AND WE LOOKED AT THE USED. E.S.D. BOARD DESIRED NOT TO BUY SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEMS. THEY WANTED A NEW BUILD.
SO IT WILL TAKE SIX WEEKS TO BUILD IT AND HAVE IT ON SITE.
>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION APPROVE, SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU,
[Executive Session ]
>> MAYOR RENO: THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO THE FOLLOWING SECTION OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS ARE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION BUT ANY AND ALL ACTION IS TAKEN IN REGULAR OPEN SESSION. SECTION 551.072, REAL ESTATE: DELIBERATION REGARDING THE REAL PROPERTY, TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.
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