Feb 09, 2021 City Council

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>> MAYOR RENO: GOOD EVENING. IT IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 9, AT 6:00 P.M. I CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF

[Call to Order, Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance and the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution.]

MR. TIMOTHY ANDERS IS A CHAPLAIN.

COME FORWARD. OF THE AMERICAN LEGION.

AND HE WILL LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MAYOR RENO.

LET US PRAY. LORD, WE INVITE YOUR PRESENCE TO BE WITH US THIS EVENING. IN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND OUR EVERYTHING WE NUDE YOUR HELP. WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS ON THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL. YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. AND THE BLESSINGS ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. HELP US, 0, HO LORD, FOR YOUR

GLORY, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND

INDIVISIBLE. >> MAYOR RENO: MY HAYFEVER IS ACTING UP AND I BELIEVE AT SOME POINT I'LL PASS THE BALL TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM JUSTIN. WE OFTEN CITY COUNCIL OFFERS OUR CONDOLENCES TO SUSAN WRIGHT AND PASSING FOR THE PASSING OF THE CONGRESSMAN RON WRIGHT. HE WAS A DEDICATED SERVANT.

HE HAS BEEN THE CONGRESSMAN SINCE 2017 ON THE RETIREMENT OF JOE BARTON. AN ACTIVE PUBLIC SERVANT.

ARLINGTON IN 2000 TO 2008. KNOWN FOR DEDICATION AND HARD WORK. HE SUFFERED THROUGH CANCER AND FINALLY LOSING THE BATTLE. WE WILL MISS HIM AND HIS LEADERSHIP. WE THANK YOU.

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ANYBODY WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL MAY COME FORWARD AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO HAS SIGNED UP AT THIS POINT, LAURA, WITH THE MIDLOTHIAN CHAMBER OF

COMMERCE. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. IT'S NICE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THE MIDLOTHIAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

OF COURSE, THE CHAMBER HAS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S WAY FAR DOWN THE LIST. SO MY COWORKER ALLY WILL BE ARRIVING LATER TO MAKE SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THE TWO OF US WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE.

BUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT OUR MAGAZINE HAS COME OUT.

WE APPRECIATE THE CITY'S SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

4,500 WERE PRINTED. 2,400 HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO SUBSCRIBERS OF THE "MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR NEWSPAPER" IN ELLIS COUNTY. THE OTHER 2,100 ARE ON THE WAY TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE NEWCOMERS AND THE VISITORS.

IT'S ALL ABOUT SHOPPING LOCAL SO WE HOPE THE LOCAL PEOPLE WILL SUPPORT IT AS WELL. WE HAVE BEEN ASKED WHEN ARE WE GOING TO PRINT AGAIN? SO WE ARE MAKING PLANS TO PRODUCE IT AGAIN THIS FALL. AND HAVE IT DELIVERED AGAIN NEXT YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE ANNUAL OR IF THERE IS JUST A PENT-UP DEMAND BECAUSE THE PROJECT LIKE THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE IN ABOUT A DOZEN YEARS.

SO, I'M GOING TO GIVE EACH ONE OF YOU A COPY.

LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED ANY MORE.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU, LAURA. I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. AS BEST I CAN TELL THEY ARE ALL FOR ITEMS 2021-064. IF THERE IS ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THAT IS NOT ON THAT ITEM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I THINK I HAVE SEPARATED THESE OUT CORRECTLY.

OKAY. THE CONSENT AGENDA, ALL MATTERS

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IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THEN IT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

ANY COUNCILMEMBER WISH TO SEPARATE ANY OF THESE?

DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE.

PLEASE VOTE. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED 7-0. THANK YOU, ALL.

PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM 2021-061, CONDUCT A PUBLIC

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>> TRENTON: THANK YOU. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE URBAN PLAN VILLAGE DISTRICT IS INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT THE ORIGINAL TOWN OF MIDLOTHIAN. GENERALLY THE LOTS HAVE THE ISSUES WITH THE REGULATIONS. THE PROPERTY STRAIGHT ZONE; SUCH AS, SETBACK, THE LOT SIZE, ET CETERA, THEY NEED SPECIAL VARIANCES OR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.

THAT IS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE UVP PROCESS.

A LOT OF THE LOTS WERE PLATTED PRIOR TO THE SUBDIVISION ORGANIZATIONS AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATION BEING ADOPTED. THE LOT THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS LOT "C." ACCORDING TO THE ELLIS COUNTY TAXPAYERS OFFICE IT'S PART OF ONE TAXABLE LOT.

HOWEVER, THE ONE THEY REQUEST TO SUBDIVIDE -- NOT SUBDIVIDE BUT DEVELOP IS LOT "C." THIS IS ALREADY A PLATTED LOT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WON'T NEED TO DO.

THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL SUBDIVISION OF THE LAND.

THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE TO THE LOCAL AND THE STATE LAW. WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS CONSTRUCT 1,8800 SQUARE FOOT RESIDENTIAL HOME OF THE CONDITION SPACE. ON A LOT THAT PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS OF SIMILAR SIZE TO THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL HOMES AROUND YOU.

ADDITIONALLY THE R3 DISTRICT, THAT IT IS CURRENTLY CHANGING FROM HAS MAX SIZE OF THE 1,600 SQUARE FEET.

THEY ARE INCREASING THE SIZE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT ONCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS -- THE PROPOSED USE AND THE PROPOSED EXPANSION, PROPOSED SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER PORTION THEY ARE ASKING FOR EXCEPTIONS WITHIN THE UVP ARE THE SETBACKS. WITH THE R3 DISTRICT, THERE ARE CERTAIN SETBACKS; SUCH AS, SIX FEET FROM THE SIDE IF IT'S AN INTERIOR LOT OR 15 FEET AS A CORNER LOT.

25 FEET FROM THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.

20 FEET FROM THE REAR. HOWEVER IF YOU GO THROUGHOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, MOST OF THE HOMES ARE NOT MEETING THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. THEY MIGHT BE MEETING ONE OR TWO OF THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IN AREA BUT THEY ARE NOT MEETING ALL OF THEM. SO WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO DO IS DECREASE THE FRONT AND THE REAR SETBACK.

THE FRONT SETBACK BEING 13 FEET. THE REAR SETBACK BEING TEN FEET.

THE PROPOSED -- ONE OF THE ENVIRONMENTS WITHIN THE YOU ARE VAN VILLAGE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- URBAN VILLAGE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS THEY MATCH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE AREA. THAT IS ONE THING THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO. SOMETHING ELSE THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS BRING IT BACK TO WHERE YOU HAVE A DETACHED GARAGE THAT IS VERY CHARACTERISTIC OF THE TIME FRAME.

OF WHEN THE HOMES IN THE AREA WERE BUILT AND TO HAVE A SEPARATED DRIVE GOING UP TO IT WHERE YOU HAVE THE GRASS IN THE MIDDLE OF EACH ATTIRE. THEY ARE USING THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT AND HAS STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING, CUPOLA, THE PORCHES TO ENHANCE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. ONCE AGAIN WE FIND THIS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE HAVE THIS DISTRICT IN THE FIRST PLACE TO ALLOW FOR THE IN-FILL AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PLATTED LOTS. THAT WOULD NORMALLY HAVE THE ISSUES MEETING THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS ANYWAY.

WE DID MAIL NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN 200 FEET.

ZERO CAME BACK IN OPPOSITION OR IN APPROVAL.

IT RECEIVED 6-0 VOTE FROM PLANNING.

I ASK ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: DOES THE SIDEWALK AND FENCING MEET THE ORDINANCE AND THE REQUIREMENT?

>> TRENTON: WITH THIS, EVERYTHING CONSTRUCTED THAT IS SHOWN IS MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

THE SCREENING MEETS IT. ONCE AGAIN THE RESIDENTIAL, THE BUDDING RESIDENTIAL. FENCE ISN'T REQUIRED PER THE ORDINANCE. WITH THE SIDEWALKS THERE IS NO SIDEWALK HERE IN THIS AREA. THERE IS GENERALLY NO SIDEWALKS

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>> MAYOR RENO: YOU SAY THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSES

AROUND IT? >> TRENTON: YES, SIR.

THE ARCHITECTURE STYLE IS CONSISTENT, THE SETBACK ARE A SIMILAR SIZE. THE LOT SIZE IS A SIMILAR SIZE.

THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 5,700 SQUARE FEET.

THERE ARE LOTS THROUGHOUT HERE OF A SIMILAR SIZE AS WELL.

>> MAYOR RENO: IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? IT'S YOUR CHOICE.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU TO REDEVELOP PART OF MIDLOTHIAN.

WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING A NEW HOME IN THIS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE STAFF QUITE A BIT. BEING AGE TO DECIDE WHAT DESIGN -- BEING ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT DESIGN AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BASED UPON WHAT Y'ALL HAVE VOTED FOR IN THE PAST WE PRESENT THIS TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> MAYOR RENO: OKAY. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MAYOR RENO: TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. CLOSE PASS 7-0.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: JUST A COMMENT.

IT EXCITES ME TO SEE DEVELOPERS AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREAS. I FOR ONE AM GRATEFUL FOR THE INVESTMENT THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER IS MAKING IN THE DOWNTOWN QUADRANT. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: WELCOME TO

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>> MARCOS: THANK YOU, MAYOR. BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2019, CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE AN S.U.P. REQUEST FOR THIS CENTER.

IT'S MAIN STREET BETWEEN MURRAY AND PROFIT AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. PART OF THIS AMENDMENT IS TO IT CAN BE DEVELOPED TO TWO PHASES. PHASE ONE ADJACENT TO MAIN STREET IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. YOU HAVE SEEN IT PROBABLY DRIVING DOWN MAIN STREET. BUT THE REAR SIDE THAT IS LOCATED ALONG PROFIT STREET, WILL NOT DEVELOP UNTIL SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE. SO THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY SEEKING A PHASE ONE AND A PHASE TWO.

THIS LOT HERE CURRENTLY SHOWS THE APPROVED LAYOUT IN PHASE ONE. SO PHASE ONE, OR WHAT WILL BECOME PHASE ONE CURRENTLY HAD 61 PARKING SPACES.

IT'S WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED. THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS THOSE REQUESTED CHANGES FROM 61 PARKING SPACES.

THEY WILL BE GOING DOWN TO 49 PARKS SPACES.

THEY ARE GOING TO REMOVE SOME PARKING PLANNED OFF OF MURRAY.

THEY WILL REMOVE THE PARKING THAT WAS FACING MAIN STREET.

PUSH THAT TO VERY, VERY BACK. BRING THAT SCREENING TO SEPARATE PHASE ONE FROM PHASE TWO. THEY ADDED A DUMPSTER.

THEY INCLUDED A SIDEWALK EASEMENT AS WELL.

THIS IS THE APPROVED ELEVATION FOR THE TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS OUT THERE. THE APPLICANT WAS ORIGINALLY USING THE EXISTING FACADE BUT NOW THEY ARE PLANNING TO UPGRADE BOTH FACADE AND THE STAFF FULLLY SUPPORTS THE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES AS WELL. [SNEEZING] EXCUSE ME. THIS REQUIRES THAT PUBLIC SIDEWALKS BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG MAIN STREET IS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THEY NOT BE REQUIRED AND THEY STATE DUE TO THE LACK OF CONNECTION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND COMBINATION WITH THERE BEING EXISTING BAR DITCH, THIS IS CREATING AN UNDUE BURDEN TO THE DEVELOPER. THE APPLICANT DID STATE HE WOULD STILL PROVIDE THE PEDESTRIAN EASEMENT ON THE PLAT WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE CITY ACCESS TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK ALONG MAIN STREET POSSIBLY SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.

TOTAL OF THE 14 NOTIFICATION LETTERS WERE SENT OUT.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES ON THESE.

STAFF DOES REQUEST APPROVAL OF ALL THE REQUESTS CHANGES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SIDEWALK. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE SIDEWALK BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG MAIN STREET REQUIRED BY THE S.U.P. OR THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE CASH ESCROW TO THE CITY IN LIEU OF THE SIDEWALKS BEING

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BUT WITHOUT THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU SAID WITHOUT RECOMMENDATIONS.

REPEAT WHAT IT WOULD MEAN. >> MARCOS: OUR TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THEM TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE AND BUILD A SIDEWALKS OR PROVIDE ESCROW. THEY DID NOT HAVE TO DO EITHER

ONE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THEY SAID DO

NOT DO EITHER ONE? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> 6-0? >> MARCOS: YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

I WAS ACTUALLY ON P&Z WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH IN 2019.

ONE OF THE SELLING POINT WAS THE REVITALIZATION AND IT WAS A BASIS FOR THE APPROVAL OR THE ALLURE OF THE APPROVAL, RIGHT? WE ARE MAKING THINGS BETTER. AND WHAT KNOT.

NOT.I REMEMBER THEY BROUGHT POWR POINT PRESENTATION AND PHOTOS OF THE OTHER AREAS WITH THE DECREPIT BUILDINGS OR THE ABANDONED BUILDINGS FROM THE FAILED BUSINESSES AND SAY WE'LL COME IN AND DO ALL THE AMAZING STUFF TO MAKE IT LOOK THAT MUCH BETTER. NOW IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE CUTTING IT IN HALF. SO, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I LIKE TO PUSH AGAINST IN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS IS PROJECT CREEP THROUGH CONTINUAL AMENDMENTS TO P.D.S OR THE S.U.P.S OR THINGS LIKE THAT. I GUESS MY ISSUE WITH IT IS WE APPROVED IT BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

NOW THEY WANT TO CUT IT IN HALF. AND IT LOOKS ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE A BIG FIGHT IN SIDEWALKS I JUST, I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE ESCROW SIDE OF THIS. AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE CUTTING IT IN HALF. SO IS THE INTENT IS SELL THE BACK HALF AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DEVELOP IT?

DO WE KNOW? >> MARCOS: NO.

THE S.U.P. WOULD STILL STAND FOR THE PHASE TWO.

THE APPLICANT STILL OWNS THAT BACK PROPERTY.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT IS ALL ONE SINGLE LOT.

SO IN ACTUALITY, THIS LOT HERE BELONGED TO FASTENOL AT ONE TIME. THAT IS ONE SINGLE LOT.

THE LOT NEXT TO IT FORMERLY USA COLLISION, THE LOT EXTENDED TO BACK SIDE WHICH INCLUDES PHASE TWO.

NOW, CAN THE APPLICANT COME BACK IN THE FUTURE AND SELL IT AND USE IT FOR A DIFFERENT USE? TECH -- TECHNICALLY YES, POSSI.

BUT THE S.U.P. STILL LIMITS THE AREA TO OBVIOUSLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS WHAT IT IS ZONED FOR. BUT IT ALSO HAS THE S.U.P.

ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO YOU CAN'T GO BEYOND WHAT THE

S.U.P. IS SAYING YOU CAN DO. >> DOESN'T IT GRANT ADDITIONAL

USE? >> YES.

>> IT COULD REVERT BACK TO ANY OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE?

>> MARCOS: YES. YOU CAN'T GO HEAVIER BUT YOU CAN

DO LIGHTER. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO POTENTIALLY -- I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.

THEY CAME FORTH WITH AN S.U.P. REQUEST TO DEVELOP THIS KNOWING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CUT IT IN HALF AFTER THEY INCREASE THE VALUE AND SELL OFF THE BACK HALF, WH WHETHER OR NOT IT GOES S.U.P. COMPLIANT OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMPLIANT IT DOESN'T MATTER BUT THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS WORTH MORE AND THEY RECOUP SOME OF THE VALUE. ON TOP OF THAT, I SEE A BUNCH OF THE -- I'M FOR REDUCING THE PARKING SPACE AND INCREASING THE GREEN BUT IT MAKES IT CHEAPER IN THE GREEN, INCREASING PROFITABILITY. I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE GOT THE

SHAFT. >> MARCOS: GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. ABSOLUTELY.

>> I'LL MAKE AN ARGUMENT FOR THE SIDEWALK.

BECAUSE I DID LAST TIME. THEY SAY SIDEWALK IS UNDUE BURDEN ON THEM BUT THEY ARE JUST THROWING THE BURDEN BACK ON THE TAXPAYERS. WE LITERALLY MADE ONE, TWO, PROJECTS NEXT TO IT PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS.

THIS WAS GOING TO PUT IN THE NEXT SIDEWALK WHERE WE CAN CONNECT THEM ALL. SOME I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO MAKE SURROUNDING PROJECTS PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS THAT HE PUT IN HIS AS WELL. IF NOT THE TAXPAYERS WILL PAY

FOR IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I AGREE WITH THAT. THAT OR THE ESCROW.

EITHER ONE TO PUT IT IN LATER. >> ABOUT THE ESCROW.

I DON'T THINK WE GOT THAT CLARIFICATION.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? >> MARCOS: SURE.

WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE. I THINK WE DID IT IN MIDTOWN.

THIS IS ALLOWED TO BE USED ON ANY SIDEWALK PROJECT OR THIS PARTICULAR SIDEWALK PROJECT. THAT IS USUALLY TYPICALLY HOW IT

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>> WELL, IF PEOPLE, PEOPLE USE IT FOR ANYTHING.

IF THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED A STREET OR A WATER LINE THEY CAN PUT UP ESCROW TO ENSURE WHATEVER INFRASTRUCTURE IT IS, IT WILL

GET DONE. >> MAYOR RENO: SO THE AMOUNT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN?

>> THAT WOULD BE THE IDEA, YES. >> MAYOR RENO: THAT WOULD BE

THE IDEA OF DOING IT. >> IT'S NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE

MONEY GOES TO THE SIDEWALK. >> MAYOR RENO: CAN WE RESTRICT THE ESCROW TO BE USED FOR THE SIDEWALKS?

>> YOU COULD IF YOU WANT IT IN A MOTION THAT IT'S ONLY USED FOR THAT SIDEWALK. WE CAN RESTRICT IT FOR THAT USE.

>> LET'S JUST MAKE THE DEVELOPER PUT THE SIDEWALK IN.

>> IF THAT IS THE CASE, MAKE THE DEVELOPER PUT IT IN AND SAVE

OURSELVES THE BURDEN. >> MAYOR RENO: I AGREE WITH THAT. WHAT IS PHASE TWO?

>> MARCOS: PHASE TWO AND AGAIN I CAN LET THE DEVELOPER COME UP AND EXPLAIN PROBABLY MORE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT IS JUST FURTHER COLLISION, A BUILDING FOR THE COLLISION REPAIR ON THE BACK SIDE. YOU HAVE THE COLLISION REPAIR ON THIS SIDE. COLLISION REPAIR ON THIS SIDE.

THE MAIN OFFICES ARE TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING HERE.

THEN THIS IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THE COLLISION REPAIR.

>> MAYOR RENO: OH. >> MARCOS: THIS IS ACTUALLY FURTHER, THIS IS UP HERE. IT'S JUST CUT IN HALF.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN -- YEAH. THIS PART HERE IS THE PHASE TWO.

THIS AREA UP HERE IS THE PHASE ONE.

>> MAYOR RENO: PHASE TWO HAS SINGLE BUILDING?

>> MARCOS: YES, SIR. >> MAYOR RENO: IF THEY SOLD THE LAND, DID THE BIDE YORE OF THE LAND RESTRICTED -- BUYER OF THE LAND RESTRICTED TO THE SAME BUILDING SIZE AND ALL OR CAN THEY DO, IF THEY HAVE RAW LAND --

>> MARCOS: IF THEY DO COLLISION REPAIR, THEY ARE HELD TO THIS SITE PLAN. THEY ARE HELD TO THIS S.U.P.

THE S.U.P. FOLLOWS THE LAND. THE SITE PLAN FOLLOWS THE LAND.

SO ANYBODY WHO COMES IN AFTER THE FACT, UNLESS THEY COME BACK THROUGH THIS COUNCIL AND GET SOME AMENDMENTS DONE, THIS IS

WHAT THEY NEED TO BUILD. >> MAYOR RENO: HAVE THE

APPLICANT COME FORWARD. >> LET'S CLARIFY, THOUGH.

AS THE COUNCILMEMBER DARRACH'S POINT, IF THEY JUST COME IN AND BUY IT AND DO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE S.U.P. THEY WOULD BE HELD BY THE SETBACKS, ET CETERA, THAT WOULD BE IN

THE -- >> IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

>> SO IT MIGHT NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.

>> MARCOS: BUT THEY HAVE TO GIVE US A NEW SITE PLAN.

I WOULD NEED A NEW SITE PLAN, NEW ELEVATION.

THERE IS A PROCESS THAT GOES WITH THAT.

>> BUT THE SAME FOOTPRINT? >> MARCOS: NOT NECESSARILY,

NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER: MARCOS SAID THEY COME THROUGH WITH A DIFFERENT SITE PLAN UNDER THE

LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. >> MARCOS: ONLY IF THEY COME IN AS COLLISION ARE THEY HELD TO THIS.

IF THEY COME IN AS SOMETHING ELSE THEY CAN OFFER UP A NEW SITE PLAN THAT MEET LIGHT INDUSTRIAL STANDARD.

>> MAYOR RENO: WHAT CAN THEY DO BY RIGHT? CAN THAW DO THAT BY RIGHT OR CAN THEY DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT

WITHOUT HAVING TO ASK? >> MARCOS: THEY CAN DO, THEY CAN DEFINITELY DO THIS BY RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY.

THERE IS -- WELL, THERE IS A PROBABLY A SLEW OF USES --

>> MAYOR RENO: WILL THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD BEFORE I GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE TOO FAR. IF YOU COME TO THE PODIUM IT'S Y'ALL'S CHOICE TO WEAR OR NOT WEAR IT.

>> I'M FROM COUNTY ROAD 338. YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I'LL TRY TO HIT ON ALL OF IT.

WALTER, I'LL TALK TO YOU FIRST ABOUT THE REASON WHY WE ARE NOT BUILDING THAT PHASE TWO. WE ARE IN THE BODY SHOP BUSINESS. WE GOT HAMMERED BY COVID.

NO CARS ON THE ROADS. YOU GO THROUGH DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

THERE IS NOTHING HAPPENING. WE FULLY INTENDED TO BUILD THE ADDITIONAL SPACE THERE. I THINK -- WE ARE STILL GOING TO BUILD IT. YOU OWN THE PROPERTY.

I AM AN OWNER. JOE COLLISION.

YYOU PERSONALLY OWN THIS PROPERTY -- I PERSONALLY OWN THIS PROPERTY. MY INTENT IS TO BUILD THAT.

BUT WE HAVE BEEN BEAT DOWN OVER THIS STUFF.

WE CUT LOOSE HALF OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT IF YOU

WANT THE TRUTH. >> WHEN THE MONEY COMES AROUND.

>> YEAH. I THINK ARE GOING TO GET THE BUSINESS HERE. YOU DON'T HAVE A BODY SHOP HERE.

YOU HAVE 35,000 PEOPLE. IT'S BOOMING.

TO ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE, GLAD YOU ARE NOT TALKING AGAINST ME. THIS IS JUST A WONDERFUL TOWN.

AND SHOOT, IF I WASN'T SO TIED IN TO GREENVILLE I'D PROBABLY MOVE HERE. IT'S GREAT.

ANYHOW, LIKE YOU SAID, MAYOR, I DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN A RABBIT HOLE. THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T DO THAT. ON THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, LOOK I UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF THE SIDEWALK ISSUE.

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I ALSO BUILT A BODY SHOP IN GREENVILLE AND I WAS REQUIRED TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN. I WAS ON THE INTERSTATE.

ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T MAKE ME DO IT.

IF I WAS SITTING DOWN IN A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN WHERE THERE WAS CONNECTIVITY AND A LOT OF THE FOOT TRAFFIC, THEN I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THOUGH, IF YOU PULL UP THE SLIDE PRIOR TO THIS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A BAR DITCH.

THIS SIDEWALK IS STARTING FROM NOWHERE.

GOING TO NOWHERE. YOU'VE GOT A BAR DITCH RIGHT HERE. I DON'T HAVE A POINTER.

RIGHT THERE. MY GUESS IS THAT THAT BAR DITCH WILL NEVER EVER GO AWAY. AT ANY POINT OF TIME.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE GOING DOWN THERE, THEY CAN TURN AROUND OR COME BACK OR JOG ACROSS THE STREET.

YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY NOT GET HIT BY A CAR.

OR THEY CAN MANEUVER THEIR WAY AROUND THE HUGE BAR DITCH.

IN THE SPIRIT OF THE SIDEWALKS, HEY, I GET IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AS CITY COUNCIL GET TO LOOK AT THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. WHAT MAKES SENSE? DOES THIS REALLY MAKE SENSE? I WOULD MUCH RATHER DONATE THE MONEY TO A LOCAL CHARITY TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN THAT IS USELESS.

OR I'D RATHER PUT LANDSCAPING OUT THERE THAT WILL LOOK A WHOLE LOT BETTER. IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE ME ESCROW IT, I MIGHT AS WELL PUT IT IN.

I'M UP HERE FOR TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I'M UP HERE BECAUSE I CHANGED MY SITE PLAN TO MAKE SOMETHING SMALLER. I THOUGHT YOU KNOW WHAT? STATE MY CASE ON WHAT I FELT LIKE ON THE SIDEWALK.

I WAS UP HERE AND I AGREED TO THE SIDEWALK THE FIRST GO-AROUND. I'LL DO THE SIDEWALK IF YOU REALLY WANT ME TO DO THE SIDEWALK BUT IT'S AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN ON BUSINESSES. YOU ARE TRYING TO BRING GUYS IN HERE. YOU WANT THEM TO DO SOMETHING NICE AND FIX UP THE COMMUNITY. YOU MEAN, REALLY.

IT DON'T NEED A SIDEWALK OUT THERE.

THERE IS A BIG OLD DITCH, MAN. THAT IS THE HONEST TO GOD TRUTH.

>> MAYOR RENO: DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT IS THE ACCESS TO PHASE TWO?

IF YOU DECIDE IT'S STILL WORK? >> WE WILL JUST PULL DOWN THE FENCE AND BUILD THE 8,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I UNDERSTAND.

IF SOMEBODY ELSE BOUGHT THAT AND YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS, THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT, WOULD YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IT?

IS THERE A STREET? >> PROFITT, YEAH.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. >> THANK Y'ALL.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, COU COUNCIL?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I WAS LOOKING LIKE CLARK, I LIKE TO LOOK AT THE MAP OF THE OVERVIEW. POWER FOAM ON ONE SIDE AND THE PROFITT BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH A HUGE BAR DITCH.

THOSE TWO SIDEWALKS WILL PROBABLY NEVER GET BUILT.

CLYDE YELLED AT ME ABOUT THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE POWER FOAM BEING ABLE TO ATTACH TO THE WAFFLE HOUSE.

GO ACROSS FROM THE WAFFLE HOUSE TO THE CHICKEN PLACE OR TO MCDONALD'S RIGHT THERE. THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

BUT TO GO FURTHER TOWARD TOWN, YOU END UP RUNNING IN TO THE BAR DITCH SO THAT MANES YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OF THE PROFITT BUILDING IF IT SELLS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE.

THE WELDING SUPPLY PLACE. WE DID NOT MAKE THE NEW CHICKEN HOUSE ON SAME SIDE OF BANK, WE DID NOT MAKE THEM PUT A SIDEWALK IN. WHEN IT REDEVELOPED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. SO, IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE WALKING CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY ANYWAY.

I'M JUST AGAINST THE SIDEWALK LIKE I WAS LAST TIME.

IT'S AN UNDUE BURDEN ON HIM. CONSIDERING HOW HE IS DOING THET LOOKS BETTER THAN IT USED TO WHEN IT WAS FASTENOL.

HE IS DUMPING EXTRA MONEY THAT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL P.D. TO

DO THIS. >> MARCOS: TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE MORE PERSPECTIVE, THESE ARE THE PHOTOS THAT KENNETH HAD PROVIDED TO US. YOU CAN SEE HIS CONCERN HERE ACROSS, THAT WOULD BE THE PROFITT STREET.

THIS SECTION OF CONCRETE IS RIGHT WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE TXDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. HIS BOUNDARY STARTS RIGHT ABOUT BACK HERE, ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THIS POINT TO THIS POINT GOING FIVE FEET BACK IS WHERE HIS ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE STARTS.

THIS IS LOOKING, YOU GUESS IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED EASTBOUND GOING DOWN. HE HAS ALREADY TAKEN OUT THAT POLE, A POLE FENCE, I GUESS YOU CALL IT.

HE HAS LANDSCAPING THAT HE IS GOING TO PUT IN HERE.

THIS IS THE BAR DITCH. THIS IS THE AREA OF CONCERN.

YOU DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE FLAT AREA HERE.

BUT GRANTED I DO UNDERSTAND. I DID WANT TO SHOW COUNCIL THIS SLIDE REAL QUICK. WE DID GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS NOT LONG AGO.

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WE DID MAKE SOME OF THE BUSINESSES HERE ON THIS LOCATION 7-ELEVEN, WAFFLE HOUSE, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, THE NEW

INDUSTRIAL -- SOMEWH -- SORRY -- >> STORAGE.

>> MARCOS: NO. STORAGE IN BACK BUT IT HAS THE MULTIPLE SUITES. MULTI-RETAIL CENTER.

THEY HAVE A SIDEWALK THEY ACTUALLY JUST INSTALLED RECENTLY. SO HERE YOU'VE GOT THE BAR DITCH THAT RUNS ALONG THE TXDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> MAYOR RENO: MARCOS, WOULD IT BE COMPARABLE, THAT SIDEWALK ON THE LEFT, WOULD IT BE COMPARABLE TO WHAT THE APPLICANT

WOULD HAVE TO DO? >> MARCOS: ABSOLUTELY.

HE WOULD HAVE TO, WITH THE RED, THE RED DESIGNATION HERE IS WHERE HIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. ONE BENEFIT OF IT BEING THERE WE HAVE A CONTROLLED CROSSWALK FROM CHICKEN E. TO MCDONALD'S.

WE WOULD WORK WITH THE TXDOT TO TRY TO COME ONE A SAFE CROSS ROUTE TO GET FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MAIN STREET TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET. ULTIMATELY, YOU HAVE THE REST OF THE SIDEWALKS TO WALK AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.

>> MAYOR RENO: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET IN TO THE FULLER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL? I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE OPEN HEARING?

>> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE IT. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE. OPEN HEARING IS CLOSED 7-0.

TO ME THE QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THE STU WANT TO DO LONG-TERM? IT IS GOING TO BE A RATHER LARGE EFFORT TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON MAIN STREET. WHERE WE WANT TO END UP AS A CITY EVENTUALLY. WE NEED TO PICK OFF A LITTLE AT

A TIME AS WE GO THROUGH HERE. >> I AGREE.

>> MAYOR RENO: RIGHT NOW, THE APPLICANT IS CORRECT.

BUT THE LONGER-TERM VISION OF A SIDEWALK ON MAIN STREET IS MY PERSPECTIVE. YI DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COFFMAN ABOUT NOT BE THE MIDDLEMAN IF YOU WOULD.

COUNCIL, OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I AGREE, MAYOR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: MARCOS HOW DOES IT READ SO I VOTE YES OR NO ON WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN OUT THERE?

>> MARCOS: IF YOU AGREE WITH OUR CONDITIONS YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE AGREEING WITH THE CONDITION NUMBER ONE REQUIRES HIM TO STILL MEET THE CURRENT S.U.P. HOW IT IS WRITTEN REGARDING THE SIDEWALKS. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF ALL THE OVER CHANGES THAT HE IS REQUESTING.

THAT IS BEING DONE BY A PHASE. PHASE ONE AND TWO.

NOT TO MENTION ALSO THE ARCTICLATION ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING. WE JUST WANT HIM TO STILL ADHERE TO WHATEVER IS IN THAT S.U.P. ORDINANCE.

SIDEWALK. >> COUNCILMEMBER: IF I AGREE WITH YOU THEN, WE PUT A SIDEWALK IN, AND EVERYTHING YOU PUT OUT THERE THAT THE P&Z AGREED WITH STAYS?

>> MAKE IT EASIER. >> PLEASE.

>> 2021-063, RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING STUBLATION. STIPULATION ON THE RECOMMENDATION ONE, STRUCTURAL ON MAIN STREET REQUIRED BY 063.

[INAUDIBLE] >> YOU MAKE THAT MOTION.

>> I KNEW YOU WOULD. >> MAYOR RENO: DO WE HAVE A

MOTION, WAYNE? >> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: YES.

>> MAYOR RENO: THE MOTION IS AS PRESENTED WITH THE STIPULATION THAT ITEM 1, SIDEWALKS BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE MAIN STREET AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-063.

>> OR ESCROW OR GUARANTEED MONEY TO THE CITY PRIOR.

>> MAYOR RENO: CAN WE GO WITH ONE?

>> JUST ONE. >> FINE.

>> MAYOR RENO: WE'LL JUST DO ONE.

JUST ONE. >> OKAY.

>> MAYOR RENO: HE SAUDI HE WOULD RATHER GO AHEAD AND BUILD

IT. >> WE WOULD RATHER HIM DO IT, TOO. SO AS PRESENTED WITH THE STIPULATION ONE. ONLY ONE SIDEWALKS BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE MAIN STREET.

WE HAVE A MOTION. SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

BY THE WAY, YOUR BUILDING, THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE LOOKS

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BEAUTIFUL. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: I GO THERE EVERY MORNING.

IT IS A GREAT -- >> I APPRECIATE YOU.

>> YOU HAVE DRESSED IT UP A LOT NOW.

YOU APPRECIATE IT. >> MAYOR RENO: OPEN

[2021-064 ]

TRENT? >> TRENTON: THANK YOU.

APPLICANT WANTS TO AMEND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS THAT A CAR WASH REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THERE ARE VARIOUS REGULATIONS THAT A DEVELOPER HAS TO FOLLOW WHEN THEY WANT TO BUILD WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. SUCH AS, CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, STYLE OF THE BUILDING, MATERIALS USED, ET CETERA.

PROPOSED USE IS FOR CAR WASH LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF HAWKINS RUN ROAD AND THE 663. BACK IN 2015, SIMILAR REQUEST WAS -- IN 2015, THE ORIGINAL KROGER DEVELOPMENT AS WE KNOW IT NOW CAME IN AND REZONED THIS. WITHIN THE P.D., IT SAID THAT THE CERTAIN USES WERE PERMITTED BY RIGHT; SUCH AS, RESTAURANTS.

THAT IS ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS PRESENTED BY RIGHT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY IN CITY ALLOW BY RIGHT.

IT HAD PROVISIONS ALLOWING FOR THE OTHER USES IN ACCORDANCE TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICT. WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DO WITH THE CAR WASH, A YEAR AGO THEY CAME IN.

REQUESTING A CAR WASH. SOME OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL WERE IN RELATION TO THE QUEUE. AND HOW IT WOULD COME OUT ON THE DRIVE AND BLEED IN TO THE HAWKINS RUN ROAD AND CAUSE THE ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC. ANOTHER WAS SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING AND CANOPIES AND THE VACUUM BAYS WERE AT. SINCE THEN THEY HAVE REDESIGNED THE SITE, ADDING ADDITIONAL QUEUING.

NOW THEY HAVE UP TO THE ORDERING AREA.

AS A 25-CAR QUEUE. SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE PACKET THAT DIFFERENTIATES FROM THE SITE PLAN ON THE POWER POINT IS ORIGINALLY THEY HAD THE DUMPSTER LOCATED HERE TOWARD 663. SINCE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WE HAD THEM BRING IT DOWN AND THAW ROTATED IT TO BE WITHIN SO ON 663 YOU ARE SEEING A DUMPSTER SCREENING INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL DUMPSTER ITSELF. SOME OF THE OTHER UTEMS THAT THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH AND THE P.D. 79 DEVELOPMENT THAT VARYING HEIGHT OF ARTICULATION. HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL.

THE DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN IN THE KROGER DEVELOPMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PRIOR AS I SAID THE CANOPIES OVER THE VACUUM BAYS PRIOR TO THIS WAS THEY WANTED TO DO FABRIC. THEY WANTED TO DO A NONMETAL.

AFTER WORKING WITH THEM QUITE A BIT, THEY CHANGED THE DESIRE.

THEY HAVE THE POLES THAT ARE WRAPPED IN MASONRY, THE METAL ROOFING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE BUILDING. SOME OF THE OTHER CAR WASHES IN TOWN WE REQUIRED THEM TO DO AS WELL.

OTHER ELEMENTS USE ACCORD DANCE ON THE ROOF, WAINSCOTING AND THE UP AND DOWN LIGHTING. THE CLOSURE WILL MATCH THE STYLE OF THE STRUCTURE, EVERYTHING IS COLORED TO BE MATCHING A SIMILAR COLOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. LANDSCAPING, THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE MONUMENT SIGN THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING. THERE IS A MONUMENT SIGN HERE.

THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING NEW SIGNAGE.

THEY WILL MEET THE SIGN REQUIREMENT IN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 79 AND WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

ONE OF THE ISSUES AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WAS THE QUEUING THAT WOULD BLEED ON TO THE HAWKINS RUN ROAD.

WHAT I DID IS I MEASURED FROM THE POINT OF ORDERING ALL THE WAY DOWN UNTIL YOU GET OUT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS 607 FEET APPROXIMATELY. LAST TIME SOMETHING THEY DID NOT HAVE THAT THEY DID GO AFTER WE QUESTIONED THEM QUITE A BIT, THEY GOT CROSS-ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE GAS STATION HERE.

PRIOR TO THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT.

WENT AROUND TO THE OTHER CAR WASHES APPROVED FROM THE ORDERING WINDOW, OR PLACES WHERE THEY ORDER DOWN TO WHERE IT EXITS THE DEVELOPMENT. I GUESS THIS WOULD BE MORE

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THAT IS GENERALLY WHERE THE MAUN OPENING IS HERE.

AND MCCOYS. 231 FEET.

THIS IS LOCATED ON MAIN STREET. APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF ORDERING IS -- IT USED TO BE HERE. I BELIEVE IT MOVED HERE.

150 FEET. THIS IS THE CAR WASH ON GEORGE HOPPER. 58 FEET.

THIS IS CALLED PANTHER CAR WASH ON MAIN STREET, 228 FEET.

GOING TO THE BACK. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE QUEUING LEADING OUT TO THE MAIN STREET, OUT TO THE PUBLIC MIRANDA RIGHTS THEY HAVE- THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THAT. ANOTHER ISSUE T.I.A., WHEN THEY CONDUCT THE T.I.A. THEY WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF THE TRAFFIC FOR A CAR WASH VERSUS A RESTAURANT WHICH WOULD BE PER MUTTED -- WOULD BE PERMY THE RESTAURANT IS SIMILAR.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERN WITH THE T.I.A. THAT CAME BACK FOR THE PROPERTY. THEY NOTICED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IN 200 FEET. WE DID RECEIVE ONE NOTICE FROM THE KROGER DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPERS OF KROGER THAT THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. WE DID RECEIVE SIX NOTICES THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET. THERE IS A PORTION OF THEM THAT WERE LOCATED I'D SAY MAJORITY OF THEM LOCATED IN THIS AREA.

ONE IN OLD VILLA, I BELIEVE. THE SIXTH ONE.

THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR TWO.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

>> I'LL INTERJECT HERE. THERE ARE 13 CITIZENS PARTICIPATION FORMS SUBMITTED. EIGHT FOR SPEAKERS.

FIVE FOR SPEAKERS -- [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE 15 FORMS, ALL IN OPPOSITION.

EIGHT ARE NONSPEAKERS, FIVE ARE SPEAKERS.

COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT THE

SPEAKERS TO COME FIRST? >> LET THE SPEAKERS.

>> WE HAVE THE APPLICANT AS WELL WITH A PRESENTATION WHEN YOU ARE

READY. >> MAYOR RENO: WE'LL LET THE SPEAKERS AND THEN ASK THE APPLICANT --

>> I HAVE A QUICK EASY QUESTION. THE CROSS-ACCESS EASEMENT THAT IS GOING TO STAY CHAINED I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF THAT.

>> TRENTON: ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THERE WERE ISSUES BECAUSE THERE ARE CARS IN HERE, WHAT WAS GOING ON.

WE WANTED ANOTHER POINT FOR THE FIRE, FOR ANY SORT OF USE TO GET THROUGH HERE. THIS WILL BE USED FOR THE TRASH TRUCK TO COME IN THROUGH HERE AS WELL TO PICK UP THE TRASH.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS FOR THAT.

>> IT'S NOT FOR THE CARS, OR FOR THE GENERAL TRAFFIC TO USE THIS AS THE CROSS ACCESS. IT'S MORE FOR SPECIFIC REASONS,

EMERGENCY. >> EMERGENCY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO

IT OR WE JUST CUT IT OUT IF WE >> TO?TO?

>> WE USUALLY HAVE A LOCK BOX WITH A KEY IN IT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THE EXIT AFTER THE CAR WASH WHERE YOU GO THROUGH THE BLOWERS, ISN'T THAT RIGHT ACROSS

THE STREET FROM PIZZA PLACE? >> MOD

>> COMMISSIOPIZZA IS RIGHT HERED PIZZA IS RIGHT HERE.

>> IT'S CLOSER THAN THAT. IT'S ON THE BLACK LINE.

>> TRENTON: OKAY. RIGHT HERE THEN.

PARKING LOT GOES UP IN TO HERE RIGHT HERE.

>> PATIO ACROSS THERE. >> I WAS JUST THINKING OF NOISE.

>> LET THE APPLICANT. >> OKAY.

WELL I'LL DO SPEAKERS FIRST. THE APPLICANT, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST OR -- GIVE THE APPLICANT THE CHOICE.

AGAIN, IT'S YOUR CHOICE. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHO YOU ARE WITH. YOU HAVE AS MUCH TIME WITHIN

REASON THAT YOU WANT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME. I'M MATTHEW GILBERT WITH DRIVEN BRANDS. WE ARE THE CORPORATE OWNER THAT OWNS TAKE FIVE CAR WASH. WE ACQUIRED ICWG LATE LAST YEAR.

SO WE ARE PUSHING TO DEVELOP OUR CAR WASHES, NEIGHBORHOOD CAR WASH, JOINT COMMUNITIES AND THE TOWNS LIKE MIDLOTHIAN ARE ATTRACTIVE MARKETS FOR US. AS THE PRESENTER MENTIONED, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY STAFF.

WE HAVE ADDRESSED ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS, WE TRIPLED THE STACKING FOR THE CARS QUEUED. WHICH WAS THE ONLY CONCERN FROM THE 2015 THAT THE COUNCIL HAD. [INAUDIBLE] THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WE HEAR A LOT OF IS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC WITH THE T.I.A. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU WOULD SEE FOR A RESTAURANT, WHICH IS ALLOWABLE USE WE HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF CAR. BUT THE PEAK SIDE IS NOT ONE HOUR FOR LIMIT OR DINNER. IT'S FOUR HOURS.

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ACROSS. >> DRIERS OF THE CARS?

>> VACUUMS, NO. IT'S QUIET.

>> SO ALL THE EQUIPMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTPRINT, WE HAVE 125 TUNNELS. SO THEY ARE ALL SELF-CONTAINED ON THE INSIDE. WE HAVE THE OPEN ATMOSPHERE ON THE ENTRANCE SIDE OF THE TUNNEL TO PROVIDE LIGHT SO CUSTOMERS DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE GOING IN A DARK TUNNEL OF DEATH.

BUT THE DRIERS AND THE BLOWERS THAT WE USE FOR THE EQUIPMENT IS ALL CONTAINED INSIDE OF THE TUNNEL ITSELF.

IT'S NOT EXTERIOR. >> WHAT IS THE DECIBEL LEVEL?

>> DON'T GET ME LYING TO YOU SO EARLY IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

WE BUILD THESE WITH THE KROGERS ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.

KROGERS HAVE THE PATIOS, MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS IN THE PARKING CENTERS AND WE HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE.

BUT I CAN PROVIDE IT AT THE PROPERTY LINE TO SHOW THAT THE SOUND DOES NOT BLEED OFF TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.

>> I WENT THROUGH NINE DIFFERENT CAR WASHES IN THE LAST MONTH AFTER YOU WENT THROUGH THE PANDEMIC PANDEMIC.

P --THROUGH THE P&Z. THERE IS NOT ONE THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A TORNADO. EVERYTHING AROUND THE CAR WASHES HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL OR THE COMMERCIAL SETTINGS.

THEY DON'T HAVE HOUSES OR RESTAURANTS AT THE ENTRANCE OR

THE EXITS. >> YES, SIR.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXIT OF THE TUNNEL IT FACES THE SHARED ACCESS ROADWAY. LIKE I SAID, OUR EQUIPMENT IS SELF-CONTAINED. ICWG IS THE LARGEST CAR WASH IN THE WORLD, ACTUALLY. EUROPE AND SO OUR EQUIPMENT IS SPECIFIC TO US. IT'S NOT EQUIPMENT THAT YOU WILL GO TO ANOTHER CAR WASH SERVICE AND HEAR.

IT'S SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE SUCCESS IN TOWNS LIKE MIDLOTHIAN AND SMALL COMMUNITIES AND GROWING COMMUNITIES WITH THE

CUSTOMERS. >> DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION?

>> MAYOR RENO: YOUR CAR WASH BAY IS 129 FEET?

IS THAT -- >> 125 FOOT.

THE TUNNEL IS -- >> MAYOR RENO: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE A CAR TO GO DOWN THAT LENGTH?

>> IT DEPENDS IF YOU SPEND $5 OR $10.

>> MAYOR RENO: I SPENT $10. GO FOR THE BIG ONE.

>> 3-5 MINUTES IS THE STANDARD TIME.

SO, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I WANTED TO MENTION TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE BOARD IS MIDLOTHIAN IS A GROWING, DEVELOPING CITY.

YOU SEE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT.

POINT AND CASE. A LOT OF THE SITES THAT WE SELECT FOR THE SITE SELECTION AS WE ARE A GROWING COMPANY, WE DON'T JUST BUILD STUFF TO BUILD STUFF.

WE KNOW THE SITE IS WELL UTILIZED AND WE KNOW THAT THERE IS OTHER CAR WASHES IN THE MARKET.

WE WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT WE ARE NOT COMING IN TO BE A COMPETITOR. WE ARE NOT COMING IN TO TRY TO STEAL CUSTOMERS OR STEAL BUSINESS.

ANYWAY YOU IT HAVE, JUST TO HAVE IT.

BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE MIDLOTHIAN MARKET AS EXCESS BLEEDING DOLLARS THAT LEAVE YOUR ZIP CODE AND LEAVE THE CITY LIMIT FOR OTHER CAR WASH SERVICES.

THAT IS WHY WE IDENTIFY THE SITE.

THE SERVICE WE PRESENT IS A DIFFERENT SERVICE.

YOU KNOW SOMEBODY COMES IN IF THEY ARE HUNGRY, THEY WANT TO GO TO TACO BELL OR GO TO CHILI'S, THERE ARE TWO RESTAURANTS OR TWO DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR THE ACTION.

THIS IS WHAT OUR CAR WASH IS BRINGING TO THE MIDLOTHIAN THE JOIN THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDE A DIFFERENT SERVICE FOR THE CUSTOMER THAT HAS THREE TO FIVE MINUTES TO GET THE CAR WASH AND HEAD DOWN THE ROAD.

>> MAYOR RENO: FOR YOUR PRIMARY DAY, HOW MANY CARS PER

DAY DO YOU PLAN ON SERVICING? >> IF OUR PEAK SI TIME, WE BUDG, FORECAST 250 CARS PER DAY OVER TEN TO 12-HOUR PERIOD OF OPENING. WITH THE PEAK TIME THAT WE SEE BETWEEN 4:00 P.M. AND 8:00 P.M. ON SATURDAYS.

SORRY. 4:00 TO 8:00 P.M. ON THE WEEKDAYS AND SATURDAY IT'S 10:00 TO 1:00 P.M.

>> MAYOR RENO: WHAT IS THE AVERAGE QUEUE LENGTH AND THE MAX

QUEUE LENGTH DURING THAT TIME? >> SO FOR THE MARKET STUDIES WE ARE TYPICALLY SEEING THE 16 CARS IN THE QUEUE.

AS YOU KNOW IF YOU GO TO ANY OTHER CAR WASH IF YOU SEE THE 20 CARS QUEUED YOU WON'T WAIT 30 MINUTES FOR A THREE-MINUTE CAR WASH. THAT IS JUST HUMAN NATURE.

ON THE CYCLE LIFE OF THE EQUIPMENT THROUGH THE TUNNEL IT'S 13-CAR QUEUING WE TYPICALLY WOULD SEE.

WE PROVIDE AS YOU HEARD PREVIOUSLY THE 25 QUEUES, CAR QUEUING IN THIS LINE. IF WE HAVE 25 CARS WE NEED TO BUILD A SECOND CAR WASH NEXT TO IT.

THAT IS HOW OUR NUMBERS LOOK. >> MAYOR RENO: HOW MANY

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>> SO OUR SHIFTS WE HAVE ONE MANAGER AND THEN WE HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK THE SITE. SO YOU HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS AT THE B.T.C., THE PAY STATION.

ONE EMPLOYEE INSIDE THE TUNNEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH AN AUTOMATED CAR WASH THERE IS NO MECHANICAL FAILURE AND YOU CAN STOP WITH AN EMERGENCY. ONE OR TWO EMPLOYEES PICKING UP TRASH AND WALKING THROUGH THE VACUUM STATION TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT TRASHED AND WELL KEPT. ONE THING TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS A CORPORATE STORE. WE BUILD OUR STORES WE OWN AND OPERATE THEM. WE DON'T SELL THEM OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. THE SITE BUILDING, THE AESTHETICS WILL BE OWNED AND KEPT FOR OUR BRAND IMAGE.

IT'S NOT, LIKE YOU BUILD A GAS STATION AND SOMEBODY SELLS IT.

THEN THREE MONTHS LATER YOU GET A NASTY LOOKING STORES.

THE STORES ARE KEPT AND MAINTAINED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR BRAND IS REPRESENTED PROPERLY IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: NO INTERIOR DETAIL BY YOUR STAFF; IS THAT CORRECT? YOU DON'T HAVE STAFF FOR THAT?

>> NO, SIR. IT'S ALL AUTOMATED.

>> MAYOR RENO: COUNCIL, MORE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

>> WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO BUILD A SIDEWALK.

>> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

AS I SAID, THERE ARE 13 FORMS SUBMITTED.

ALL IN OPPOSITION. THE EIGHT NONSPEAKERS CAN SUMMARIZE THE NOISE AND THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

SO THAT IS THE SUMMARY. SPEAKERS, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR NAME. YOU DON'T NEED TO GIVE ME AN ADDRESS, JUST SAY IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OR NONRESIDENT.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. I'LL GIVE YOU A ONE-MINUTE WARNING AND I APPRECIATE YOU WRAP UP ON TIME.

ANTONIO MUNEN? AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY?

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: HI. I'M ANTONIO JUEN AND I'M A NONRESIDENT. THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. TWO YEARS AGO I APPLIED FOR A

CANOPY. >> CAR WASH.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YEAH. APPLIED FOR A CANOPY AND YOU APPROVED US AND IT LET US BE MORE EFFICIENT AND PROVIDE MORE ADDITIONAL SERVICES SO WE COULD COMPETE WITH THE OTHER CAR WASH COMING IN AND HELPING OUR WORKERS TO STAY OUT OF THE SUN AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT BEING SAID WITH A THIRD CAR WASH COMING IN, YOU KNOW MY BIGGEST FEAR, I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO WEATHER THE STORM WITH THE THIRD CAR WASH COMING IN. IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR US.

THE MARGINS ARE NOT THAT GREAT. WE HAD TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO STAY COMPETITIVE WITH THE NEW COMPETITION THAT CAME OFF OF 287. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT ELSE TO DO AT THIS POINT. WHEN WASH MASTERS CAME IN THE REVENUE DROPPED 30%. WE WERE ABLE TO RECOVER BEING MORE EFFICIENT AND PROVIDING MORE ADDITIONAL SENIOR CITIZENS, BUT GOING FORWARD I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE TO DO.

MY BIGGEST WORRY IS WE HAVE 20 PEOPLE ON THE PAYROLL.

MOST OF THEM ARE MIDLOTHIAN CITIZENS AND THEY COUNT ON US TO HELP THEM PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

MY BIGGEST WORRY IS LIKE I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE THIRD CAR WASH COMES IN.

THE ECONOMY IS REALLY TOUGH RIGHT NOW.

IT'S TOUGH TO GET A JOB. THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS MY WORKERS AND MY MYSELF ALSO. THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU, MAYOR RENO.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: NEXT SPEAKER IS DONNA.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY OPINION. A FEW OF YOU KNOW ALREADY THAT I LIVE IN AUTUMN RUN. SO, THE ENTRANCE TO MY SUBDIVISION IS DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE PROPOSED CAR LOT.

SO WE ALSO GOT OUR NOTICE THAT THIS WAS COMING OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FACEBOOK PAGE. I WILL TELL YOU WE HAD FIVE.

SO THAT IS PROBABLY IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU KNEW.

THOSE FIVE RESIDENTS LIVE ON AUTUMN RUN, WHICH IS A STRAIGHT SHOT OFF OF HAWKINS RUN ROAD. AS WELL AS HARVEST TRAIL.

WHICH IS WHERE I LIVE. I CAN WALK THERE IN LESS THAN THREE MINUTES. THAT IS HOW CLOSE THIS WOULD BE.

THE NOISE LEVEL IS MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN.

I HAVE BEEN AROUND JUST AS YOU SAID YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH.

BUT I HAVE BEEN AROUND THE CAR WASHES.

YOU CAN NOT TELL ME I AM NOT GOING TO HEAR THE BLOWERS.

I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE VACUUMS BUT I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE WITH THE BLOWERS.

ANYTHING GOING ON, ON 663, WE HEAR THAT NOISE.

SO WE DON'T NEED TO ADD TO IT. IN ADDITION THE TRAFFIC IS A HUGE CONCERN OF MINE. WHEN I LIVED IN ARLINGTON, TWO

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DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG COOPER WOULD BE BACKED UP TRYING TO GET DOWN AND AROUND THE CORNER TO COME IN THE CAR WASH? 250 CARS A DAY IS A LOT OF CARS. BUT I THINK THEY PROBABLY SAW THAT EASILY. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, THE ENTRANCE WAS ON COOPER. THE SAME THING.

YOU WOULD HAVE BLOCKS OF CARS WAITING TO GET IN.

THAT IS NOT THE TRAFFIC YOU NEED ON 663, WHICH BY THE WAY IN THAT ONE AREA IT IS ONE LANE. BECAUSE WE NOW -- THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR GETTING US OUR TURN LANE IN TO AUTUMN RUN -- THAT HAS HELPED US. THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING 45 AND 55 MILES PER HOUR. RIGHT THERE.

YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE BACKING UP WITH THIS TYPE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS WILL ENTAIL. NEXT, IF I'M SITTING ON THE PATIO AT MOD PIZZA, I DO NOT NEED TO REACH OUT AND TOUCH A CAR COMING THROUGH THE CAR WASH. BECAUSE THAT IS HOW CLOSE IT IS.

YES, THEY MAY PARTNER WITH KROGER, BUT KROGERS ARE NOT ALWAYS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THIS CAR WASH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

I'M ALL FOR ANOTHER CAR WASH. I'M SORRY TO THE GENTLEMAN AHEAD OF ME. I KNOW IT COULD HURT HIS BUSINESS. BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.

IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I JUST AM TOTALLY AGAINST IT. SO, I JUST HOPE THAT YOU WILL LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND I TRULY APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME. THANK YOU, ALL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU.

GREG DANIEL? >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL FOR HAVING ME SPEAK.

IF I KNEW SHE WAS GOING TO SPEAK I'LL JUST SIGN A LIST.

I APPOSE. GREG DANIEL.

WE BOUGHT OUR HOME THERE LAST YEAR.

THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT MIDLOTHIAN IS IT DOES FEEL LIKE HOME.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE CAR WASHES IS ADDY'S, I'M OLD SCHOOL SO I STILL HAND WASH. YOU CAN GO UP THERE ANYTIME AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY.

SHE JUST SAID IT ALL. I WON'T HOLD YOU UP.

THE NOISE, THE ISLAND OF CARS. ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS IS WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO GO OVER TO MOD OR GO TO CHILI'S.

AND JUST 200 CARS FROM 4:00 TO 8:00, THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WAS BUYING IN TO. WE DON'T NEED IT THERE.

I THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: NEXT SPEAKER IS DANIEL SAY.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

I'M DANIEL SAY, A RESIDENT. I'M ACTUALLY -- THAT HOUSE RIGHT THERE. SO I'M PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THE FAMILIES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED THE MOST BY THE CAR WASH PUT IN THERE. I JUST MOVED IN HERE LAST YEAR.

I'M GLAD TO BE PART OF THE AREA. BUT I HAVE A FAMILY I'M RAISING.

THREE CHILDREN. THE REASON I BOUGHT THAT HOME IS BECAUSE IT HAS EXTENDED BACKYARD.

I REALLY WANTED TO USE IT FOR MY CHILDREN.

I THAT LOVE TO BE OUTDOORS. THE FACT THAT THAT IS THERE AND ALL THAT NOISE IS RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD.

I'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY.

I'LL HAVE AN ALARM CLOCK WHEN THEY OPEN UP.

THAT IS WHEN I GET UP AND I WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT FOR 12 HOURS EACH DAY. THAT IS MY PLACE ON THE WEEKEND.

IT'S MY PLACE TO RELAX AND PLACE TO GET AWAY IN THE WORLD WE LIVE TODAY. WE ALL NEED THAT KIND OF PLACE.

THAT AFFECTED NOW BY THE NOISE AND THE PEOPLE AT CAR WASHES.

WHAT DO YOU LOVE TO DO AT THE CAR WASH? YOUR BLARE YOUR MUSIC WHILE YOU ARE CLEANING YOUR CAR OUT.

YOU DON'T NEED IT PLAYED IN MY BACKYARD.

DON'T KNOW WHAT MUSIC THEY PLAYING OR IF I WANT MY KIDS OUT THERE HEARING THIS STUFF. I'M COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO IT.

I'M SORRY FOR THE GENTLEMAN HERE FOR IT.

I'M NOT FOR THIS AT ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. >> JOE, WE ARE ALLOWED TO ASK

CITIZENS A QUESTION? >> YEAH.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SINCE YOU LIVE THE CLOSEST I'M CURIOUS.

YOU DON'T THINK WHEN THEY BUILD A BUILDING RIGHT HERE THAT WILL

ACT AS A SOUND BARRIER? >> IT TOTALLY COULD.

I MEAN, I HOPE IT WOULD IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU LIVE THE CLOSEST, THAT'S WHY --

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I LIVE THE CLOSEST AND I HEAR CARS ALL THE TIME. I HEAR CAR ON 663.

I DON'T NEED TO HEAR THE BLOWERS AND THE MUSIC.

I STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS. I BOUGHT THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS A SMALL TOWN. I LIKE THE FEEL OF BEING IN THE

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NOW EVERYTHING IS IN MY BACKYARD.

ALL THAT NOISE. EVERYTHING IS RIGHT THERE.

I CAN'T, I WANT TO BUILD A POOL IN MY BACKYARD.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE POOL IF I LISTEN TO -- BLOWWWW 12 HOURS A DAY. WEEKEND IS THEIR PEAK TIME.

THAT IS MY TIME. NOW I WON'T HAVE MY TIME.

THAT IS NOT WHY I BROUGHT IN THIS PLACE.

THANK YOU, GUYS. >> MAYOR RENO: NEXT SPEAKER IS MUHAMMAD SHAROFF. AM I CLOSE?

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: NAILED IT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR RENO AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M A NONRESIDENT BUT I LIVE IN THE MIDLOTHIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT. I HOPE I'M CLOSE ENOUGH.

YOU HAVE HAD SEVERAL SPEAKERS AND I WILL TRY TO BE CONCISE.

I WANT TO GIVE TWO REASONS WHY I REPRESENT THE OWNER OF WASH MASTERS BUILT ON PLAIN VIEW AND 187.

THE FIRST REASON IN OPPOSITION IS IT WOULD HAVE A SEVERE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR BUSINESS. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND WE WORKED WITH THE STAFF TO BUILD A CAR WASH, THE STAFF EXPRETZED -- EXPRESSED CLEAR AVERSION TO THE USE. UNDERSTANDABLY SO.

WE WORKED CLOSELY AS A COMPANY IN WAXAHACHIE TO BUILD CUSTOM AND A UNIQUE BUILDING STRUCTURE AND DESIGN SO WE COULD OVERCOME THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL'S HESITANCY TO DO A WASH THERE.

THE USE HERE WOULD HAVE A SEVERE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON US.

IF IT WERE GOING TO BE ANOTHER LOCAL COMPANY, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK POSSIBLY WE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THIS IS OWNED BY DRIVEN BRANDS, OWNED BY ONE OF THE LARGEST PRIVATE EQUITY COMPANY IN THE WORLD.

THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN SOLD THREE TIMES IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.

I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT, THEY WILL CERTAINLY HAVE MORE THAN 250 CARS A DAY. WE HAVE THAT ON A MONDAY OR TUESDAY AT OUR WASH. IT'S LIKELY TO BE IN SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF CARS. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO RESPECTFULLY OFFER A CORRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE STACKING AND THE EXHIBITS SHOW 600 FEET OF STACKING GOING IN TO HAWKINS RUN ROAD, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE MOST CUSTOMERS WILL COME OFF OF 663.

THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO STACK AND LINE UP THROUGH THE MURPHY OR THE KROGER GAS STATION THERE. THAT IS THE WAY THEY WILL COME IN. MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LOOP ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND THROUGH HAWKINS RUN ROAD AND STACK IN THAT WAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE GIVING THE BUSINESS, GIVING APPROVAL TO A PRIVATE EQUITY COMPANY BASED IN ATLANTA, THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CAR WASHES ARE IN EUROPE AND TAKING AWAY BIDS FROM THE LOCAL PEOPLE, LOGE CALLLY BASED HERE THAT ARE EMPLOYING LOCAL MIDLOTHIAN RESIDENTS.

THE SECOND REASON I ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO TURN DOWN THIS REQUEST IS THAT THE USE HERE, MIDLOTHIAN, THE CITY WOULD BE MUCH BETTER SUITED WITH A RESTAURANT OR SOME OTHER USE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO PAY FOR SALES TAX, HIRE MORE PEOPLE AND BRING SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO THE CITY.

WE ALREADY HAVE SEVERAL CAR WASHES HERE OF ALL SHAPES AND SIZES AND STRIPES OF A DOWN OF 30,000 PEOPLE.

THE CITY AND THE STAFF AND JOHN WEBBER WENT THROUGH MONEY TO PUT TOGETHER THE DEVELOPMENT. I KNOW IT TOOK YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS ONLY TO PUT SOMETHING THAT HIRES VERY FEW PEOPLE.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE SERVICES. THEY DON'T PAY SALES TAX.

IT TAKES AWAY BUSINESS FROM A LOCAL MIDLOTHIAN COMPANY TO PROVIDE A SERVICE ALREADY AVAILABLE.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, THAT IS THE LAST SPEAKER.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

ANYBODY AT THIS POINT? >> COUNCILMEMBER: YES.

MY TURN, FINALLY. GOOD.

I LIVE DOWN SOUTH ON 663. HAWKINS RUN ROAD, I TRAVEL THIS AREA OFTEN. I DECIDED TO BE A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT THE OTHER DAY AND I DECIDED TO COME IN TO KROGER AT 5:30 P.M. AND THEN GO LEFT RIGHT HERE ON HAWKINS RUN ROAD.

IT WAS A MISTAKE. I WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE CARS DEEP TURNING LEFT. THE TIMING OF THE TRAFFIC JUST HAPPENED TO TIME IT OUT PERFECTLY.

I PUT A STOPWATCH ON MY PHONE. IT TOOK ME FOUR MINUTES FROM HERE TO BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT. I THINK I WAS LUCKY WITH THE FOUR MINUTES TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE ENTIRE IMPACT THAT KROGER, THAT THE KROGER DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE ON THE OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK THEY ARE ABOUT, I DON'T WANT TO GUESS.

I KNOW THE DEVELOPER IS HERE. 75 TO 85% FULL.

ALDIS NOT YET OPEN. I KNOW THE BURGER KING IS JUST NOW OPENED. THE DINING SERVICE, INDOOR DINING SERVICES ARE NOT OPEN. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF OPEN LEASE SPACES AMONG HAWKINS RUN ROAD.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE COMPLETE TRAFFIC IMPACT WE WILL HAVE AT THIS INTERSECTION. I'M TELLING YOU, IT WILL BE

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I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS TOWN AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST EYESORE IS THE ABANDONED CAR WASH DOWN BY WALMART.

THANKFULLY WALMART FINALLY DEMOED THE PROPERTY.

ANOTHER EYESORE WE HAVE AN ABANDONED CAR WASH ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL. THERE IS NOTHING UGLIER THAN AN ABANDONED CAR WASH. WE CAN'T HAVE MORE ABANDONED CAR WASHES IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS MY STATEMENT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I AGREE WITH YOU, JUSTIN.

I HAVE SEEN THE SAME THING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

OF COURSE THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CAR WASH.

BUT THAT IS REALLY IMMATERIAL, I THINK.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE NOISE. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC. BUT I THINK THE PROPERTY WOULD BE BETTER UTILIZED IF WE COULD GET A RESTAURANT IN THERE.

I THINK IT'S ORIGINALLY WHAT IT WAS FOR.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DOUGHNUT SHOPS.

DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DON'T NEED A LOT OF CAR

WASHES. >> TO YOUR POINT THAT IS WHY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF PUT RESTAURANT AS A BY RIGHT OPTION AT THAT LOCATION. NOT S.U.P.

>> MAYOR RENO: IF YOU DON'T MIND CAN WE CLOSE THE OPEN

SESSION AND THEN -- >> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MAYOR RENO: CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION.

>> MOVE TO CLOSE! SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE. OKAY.

OPEN IS CLOSE. GENTLEMEN?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE HIRED TO DO BY ELECTED PEOPLE IN THE CITY WAS TO PROTECT THIS CITY.

SO WE PUT IN A BRAND NEW CAR WASH, BEAUTIFUL, SHINY, CLEAN, IT LOOKS PRETTY. YOU CAN'T SIT OUT THERE ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EAT PIZZA BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HEAR YOUR FRIEND TALKING TO YOU. BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN 150 FEET AWAY TO THE BLOWER. THE SECOND THING IS WE HAVE CAR WASHES IN THIS TOWN THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SOME ARE EMPTY BECAUSE OF THE MANAGEMENT AND OTHER ISSUES.

BUT IF THIS COMES IN I THINK WE WILL LOSE TWO OR THREE OF THEM.

AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE ONE BY WALMART THEY DON'T DISAGREER.

THEY JUST ARE NOT USED ANYMORE. THE DIRT IS NEVER WORTH ENOUGH TO DO THE TOTAL DEMO ON A CAR WASH AFTER IT'S ABANDONED.

THE ONE IN DUNCANVILLE OFF OF THE MAIN.

THAT U USED TO BE THE BEST CAR WASH IN AREA.

NOW WE HAVE ONE ON PLAIN VIEW. THAT IS A PERFECT LOCATION.

A LOT OF TRAFFIC. NOT A SINGLE HOUSE AROUND IT.

BUSINESSES AROUND IT. YOU CAN HAR THE MACHINES GOING.

IMAGINE TRYING TO BARBECUE IN YOUR BACKYARD AND TRYING TO TURN UP THE MUSIC TO DROWN OUT THE CAR WASH SOUND? IT'S ALL THE SAME. CAR WASH, RESTAURANT.

BUT A RESTAURANT IS A LOT QUIETER, A LOT BETTER USE OF THE PROPERTY. I SEE NO REASON TO PUT OTHER MIDLOTHIAN BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS TO ALLOW SOME CONGLOMERATION FROM OVERSEAS TO COME IN AND BUILD A CAR WASH BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP TO GET IT BUILT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: GO AHEAD. I AGREE WITH THAT BUT I WILL ADD TO IT. I THINK THE PEOPLE SPEAKING HERE TODAY SPOKE PRETTY LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT.

AS A COUNCIL, FOR ME, I TRY TO PUT MYSELF IN YOUR SHOES.

IF I LIVED THAT CLOSE TO THAT SITE, I WOULD NOT WANT THAT NOISE ISSUE AND THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I AGREE WITH YOU, HUD.

I GOT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE. WHERE I LIVE I'M A MILE FROM 287. WHEN I MOVE THERE, IF THERE WERE FOUR AND FIVE CARS A DAY DOWN MOUNT ZION ROAD THAT WAS BUSY DAY. NOW I WAIT 25 TO 30 FOR ME TO GET OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY. THAT IS JUST MOUNT ZION.

THE NOISE, I'M A MILE FROM 287. BUT I HEAR THAT, EVER A VEHICLE GOING DOWN 287, I HEAR IT. IT'S NOISY.

SO THERE IS NOISE WHATEVER. CAR WASH, NOISIER.

I'VE GONE TO THE CAR WASH ON 287.

AND I LEFT MY CAR THERE. I WENT TO LINDA'S KITCHEN.

NOT LINCA, CAROLINE'S TO EAT. I COULD HEAR THE CARS COMING THROUGH THERE. CAR WASH IS A GREAT BUSINESS.

BUT A PLACE LIKE TED SAID, BY MCCOY'S.

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NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREA IS NOT. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU.

COMMENTS? >> THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ASPECTS TO CONSIDER.

I WANT TO CAUTION MY COMMENTS AND MYSELF AND MAYBE JUST LEAN TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. I FEEL IT'S SOMEWHAT IMPROPER TO JUDGE THE VIABILITY OF THIS GROUP AND THEIR BUSINESS BASED OFF OF THE COMMENTS OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE SAME INDUSTRY.

I TOTALLY GET THE, I GET THE IMPACT TO MOD PIZZA.

THAT IS WHAT DRIVES ME TO MY OPPOSITION.

I WOULD SAY. BECAUSE MOD PIZZA WENT IN THERE WITH A PATIO FOR A PURPOSE. IN AN AREA THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMUNITY RETAIL, RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, WALKABILITY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO, THAT WOULD BE THE INPUT THAT I WOULD BE PROBABLY MOST CONCERNED ABOUT FROM A BUSINESS TO BUSINESS STANDPOINT. I FEEL THAT ALTHOUGH WE WANT TO PROTECT BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE IN TOWN ALREADY, OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT MAKING THINGS WORSE FOR EXISTING INDUSTRIES HERE BY THE INCOMING INDUSTRIES.

INCOMING COMPETITION DOES HELP KEEP UP THE EXISTING COMPANIES TO A DEGREE. RIGHT? SO WHY DO WE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THEIR BUSINESSES? THEY DO THAT BECAUSE NEWER, DEEPER POCKETS, NEWER TECHNOLOGY IS COMING AND IT FORCES, YOU KNOW, A RISING TIDE.

SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION OUR CONVERSATION IN THAT AREA.

THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISING TO ME.

THEN ALSO TO SAY -- WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT BECAUSE I WANT IT ON THE RECORD. WHO IS IN THIS GROUP AND WHERE THEY ARE FROM IS ALSO IMPROPER IN MY OPINION TO BRING UP IN

THIS CONVERSATION. >> WHAT?

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I WANT TO SAY THIS.

YOU SAID SOME CONGLOMERATE FROM SOMEWHERE OVERSEAS --

>> MAYOR RENO: KEEP OUR COMMENTS --

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: THAT IS MY COMMENT.

I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.

>> MAYOR RENO: [INAUDIBLE] CLARK, ANY COMMENTS?

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: MORE OF A CURIOSITY QUESTION.

TRENT, I'M LOOKING AT THE SAT LATE PHOTO OF THE KROGER -- SATELLITE PHOTO OF THE KROGER DEVELOPMENT.

THAT SITE BY RIGHT CAN BE A RESTAURANT.

LOOK AT THE CHILIS, PLUS THEIR PARKING AND THE CHICK-FIL-A PLUS THEIR PARKING. DOES THE BY RIGHT GIVE THEM VARIANT FOR THE PARKING TO THE OTHER RESTAURANTS? I LOOK AT THIS AND THERE IS NO WAY IT FITS IN THERE.

>> TRENTON: THERE IS LANGUAGE INSIDE THE PD729 THAT SAYS THE PARKING WITHIN THE KROGER DEVELOPSOMENT IS SHARED PARKING.

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: THAT IS MY CURIOSITY QUESTION.

AS FAR AS THE CAR WASH, I AGREE WITH WALTER.

I DON'T NECESSARILY -- I CARE ABOUT THE BUSINESSES HERE BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION.

THE MOD PIZZA AND THE NEIGHBORS, THE WOMAN WHO SPOKE EARLIER WHO LIVES THE CLOSEST, THANK YOU. THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT HELPED ME. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD -- PERSONALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD DENY IT BECAUSE OF THE HARM IT WOULD DO TO THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES AND THE HOMEOWNERS.

WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF THE MAYOR IS READY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE. 7-0 TO DENY THE REQUEST.

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>> TRENTON: THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. WHAT THEY ARE ASKING TO DO IS CHANGE THIS AREA, THIS PORTION OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL TO SKILLED NURSING FACILITY.

WITH THE SCHOOLED NURSING FACILITY, THE APPROXIMATE SIZE IS GOING TO BE 51,6005 SQUARE FEET.

126 PARKING SPACES WITH A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF THE BEDS IS 122 WITHIN THE PROPOSED CENTER. WHEN THEY CAME BEFORE US, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THIS ROAD LOCATED ON THE BOTTOM.

RIGHT NOW THERE HAS NOT BEEN A ROAD THAT ENGINEERED OR DESIGNED. THEY AMENDED THE SITE PLAN TO ELIMINATE THIS INGRESS/EGRESS POINT AND ONLY ■HAVEONE INGRESS, EGRESS FOR THE FUTURE ACCESS TO THE ROAD.

THE LOCATION OF IT IS DONE AT THE LATER POINT IN TIME.

WE GO THROUGH THE POWER POINT THAT'S ADDRESSED.

THE APPLICANT, OWNER AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED WITH THE CITY THAT THE LOCATION THAT THEY ARE SHOWING ON THE SILENT PLAN IS NOT THE BEST AREA FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY BEING DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE MIDLOTHIAN HIGH SCHOOL PRIMARY ENTRANCE.

IN IS THE CORNER OF -- THIS IS THE CORNER OF DYLAN WAY AND 9TH STREET. SO WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE CORNER AND HOW IT WILL LOOK ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO SOMETHING WE WORKED ON WITH THE LANDSCAPING, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAST DEVELOPMENT WE SAW EXCEPT FOR THERE IS NO CAR WASH IN THERE. BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN DESIGN ELEMENTS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE.

IN ACCORDANCE TO THE P.D. LANGUAGE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE THE MIDTOWNE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE A COMMITTEE THAT IS MADE UP OF DEVELOPMENT, CITY STAFF MEMBER, THE DEVELOPER, SOMEONE APPOINTED AS THE ARCHITECT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, ET CETERA.

THIS WAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY THE COMMITTEE.

THEY ARE USING THE VARIOUS FEATURES THAT YOU HAVE SEEN WITH THE OTHER NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOP IN THE MIDTOWN THAT YOU HAVE SEEN. A MIXTURE OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS, VARYING ROOF HEIGHT, VARIOUS PROTRUSIONS.

CUPOLAS. USING THE ARCHES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. ENHANCE THE ENTRYWAY.

I BELIEVE IT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

THEY MATCHED THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE BUILDING.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THEY WILL HAVE A DUMPSTER TO MATCH THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.

AND ALSO THEY WILL BE HAVING THE OUTSIDE STORAGE OF THE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. THAT NEEDS; SUCH AS, THE OXYGEN TANKS. TO BE STORED OUTSIDE.

THAT WHEN WE WORK WITH THEM, WE HAD THEM DEVELOP THAT TO BE DESIGNED SIMILARITY TO THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES.

SO IT BLEND IN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU ARE NOT SEEING A WOODEN BOX OR A WOODEN GATE OR METAL GATE. IT'S JUST FULL OF OXYGEN CONTAINERS. WE MAILED OUT THE NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN 200 FEET. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

AS WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD USE SINCE THIS IS A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY. THERE IS GENERALLY NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT EXCEPT FOR THE VISITORS, VISITING THE SITE. PATIENTS GENERALLY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN VEHICLE AT THE LOCATIONS.

WITH THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

ONCE AGAIN ON THE JANUARY 19, P&Z MEETING THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 6-0 OF THE REQUEST AS WELL.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: IS IT ONE

LEVEL? >> TRENTON: IT'S TWO -- THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I BELIEVE IT'S TWO LEVELS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THE LAST ONE WAS MORE THAN THAT.

>> IT'S IN THE FRONT. HIGHER PITCH.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF THE FACILITY NOW?

NOT CAPACITY BUT THE OCCUPANCY? >> TRENTON: OF THE SKILLED

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WHAT I HEAR. >> THEY ARE FULL.

IN ONE CASE THERE IS A TWO-YEAR WAITING LIST.

>> TRENTON: I KNOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY AND SOME OF THE OTHER IS DIFFERENT HOW THEY ORIENTED REGARDING THE STATE

REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I WONDERED WHAT THAT WAS. MY WIFE IS IN ONE.

OKAY. >> THE ONLY POINT OF ACCESS FROM DYLAN WAY WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.

PORTION CONSTRUCT AND THE FUTURE ROAD CONSTRUCTED ON THE

SOUTHSIDE. >> TRENTON: YEAH.

RIGHT NOW IT'S EITHER A FUTURE ROAD DOWN HERE OR IT WILL BE ANOTHER LOT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, CROSS ACCESS.

>> NO EASEMENT TO 9TH STREET?

>> NO. >> GREAT.

I LIKE THE PLAN BECAUSE OF THAT. >> THANK YOU.

YOU LOST ME AT THE BEGIN SOMETHING WE ARE CONSTRUCTING

THIS ONE. >> TRENTON: YES.

DYLAN WAY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THEY ARE DEVELOPING ALL OF DYLAN WAY BUT PRIOR TO THIS, PRIOR OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR THE FINAL PLAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD DYLAN WAY TO THE END OF THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION.

>> TIE IN TO 663? >> TRENTON: RIGHT AND THE 9TH STREET. RIGHT.

IT WOULD THEY IN TO IT RIGHT THERE.

>> QUESTION AGAIN. THE NORTHSIDE UP THERE, IT DOESN'T HAVE A SIDEWALK. STARTS OUT AND IT STOPS AT THE

DRIVEWAY. >> TRENTON: NORTH SIDE THEY HAVE TWO INGRESS AND EGRESS POINT.

DYLAN WAY STOPS HERE. IT'S DEVELOPED AS AN APARTMENT.

THERE IS LIKE A -- >> I UNDERSTAND.

I AM TALKING ABOUT THE STRIP AT THE TOP.

>> IS THERE A SIDEWALK? >> TRENTON: I APOLOGIZE.

HERE? >> ACROSS THE TOP.

>> TRENTON: THERE IS SIDEWALKS.

SIDEWALKS ALL AROUND THIS. IT'S NOT ON DRAWN ON THE

PICTURE. >> TRENTON: THERE IS AN EXISTING SIDEWALK HERE AND ONES HERE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFTER. >> PERHAPS YOU SAID.

WHAT DID P&Z? >> TRENTON: RECOMMENDED 6 OF 0

APPROVAL. >> SORRY.

THANKS. >> MAYOR RENO: APPLICANT HERE?

COME FORWARD. >> MAYOR RENO: GIVE US YOUR

NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> LARRY PARKER.

FROM TYLER. THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR APPLICATION. THIS IS TO BE A SKILLED NURSE FOG SILTY OF A TOTAL OF 122 BEDS.

PORTION IS PRIVATE ROOMS AND PORTION IS SEMI-PRIVATE ROOMS. IN ALL PRACTICALITY AS IT USUALLY DEVELOPS A NUMBER OF THE SEMI-PRIVATE ROOMS WILL BE OPERATED AS THE PRIVATE ROOMS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE DEMAND MAY BE.

WE ARE ANTICIPATING THIS IS JUST UNDER 52,000 SQUARE FEET.

HOOTING AND COOL SPACE. WE -- HEATING AND THE COOL SPACE. WE ADOPTED THE SITE PLAN TO MEET THE REQUEST OF THE STAFF, DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE MODIFIEDED THE BUILDING TO MEET THE REQUEST OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. WE HAVE GONE FROM THREE EXTERIOR FACADE PRODUCTS TO ONLY TWO. AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO FINALIZE THE COLOR OF THE EXTERIOR FACADE.

OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN AGREED UPON AND WE ARE AGREED EVEN THAT COLOR WILL BE IN THE GREEN FAMILY.

WE ARE STILL WANTING TO PRESENT THEM SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT IT WILL BE AND PUT UP A MOCK WALL AND GET THEM TO APPROVAL THE FINAL MOCK WALL AS OPPOSED TO APPROVING 2X2 STRIP. OTHER THAN, THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN FINALIZED AND WE HAVE WORKED WELL WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND THE

STAFF. >> DO YOU HAVE A MEMORY CARE

UNIT? >> SIR?

>> MEMORY CARE? >> WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIED LOCK MEMORY CARE AT THIS POINT. ALTHOUGH OUR ZONING DOES ALLOW FOR IT BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY.

IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY STATE. WE HAVE TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS INTERIORLY TO DO THAT BUT NOTHING ON THE EXTERIOR WOULD

CHANGE. >> MAYOR RENO: WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PERSON TO GET IN THERE? WHAT SEPARATES YOU FROM THE OTHER FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE?

>> WELL, WE ARE A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY IN THE ELDER CARE HOUSING ARENA. THERE IS BASICALLY FOUR BROAD CATEGORIES. THERE IS INDEPENDENT LIVING.

THERE IS ASSISTED LIVING. THERE IS TRUE FULL MEMORY CARE FACILITIES. AND THEN THERE IS SKILLED NURSING. WE WOULD BE THE UPPER END OF THE COMPONENT. WE MIGHT HAVE A ONE SMALL SKILLED CARE UNIT WITHIN THAT COMPONENT.

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FOR SENIORS. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. >> QUESTION FOR STAFF.

DIRECTIONALLY CHALLENGED HERE. COULD YOU PULL UP THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS? IF I'M ON 9TH STREET AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? THE EAST OR THE WEST ELEVATION? PENNSY

>> TRENTON: THE WEST ELEVATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> TRENTON: I WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION. I MISSPOKE.

THEY HAVE A SIDEWALK HERE. IT'S NOT CONSTRUCTED.

THE ONE THAT THE CITY CONSTRUCTED IS FURTHER DOWN SOUTH. BUT IT WILL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. I MISSPOKE EARLIER.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: TRENTON, GO BACK TO THE SIDE PLAN WITH THE ROAD AND EVERYTHING ON IT. THAT ONE.

HOW MUCH OF THAT, WE HAVE BEEN ARGUING ABOUT THE INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT CRUD FOR YEARS. HOW MUCH OF THAT ROAD ARE WE GOING TO FINALLY GET PUT IN? CAN WE MAKE THE DEVELOPER PUT

THE ROAD IN TO GET IT FINISHED? >> TRENTON: AS PART OF THIS SPECIFIC SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT THE ONLY THING WE CAN REQUIRE WHEN THEY PLAT THE PROPERTY IS THIS PORTION OF THE

DYLAN WAY. >> I'M NOT PUTTING IT ON THE DEVELOPER, ON THE MASH -- NO. THE DEVELOPER CAN WE FINALLY MAKE HIM FINISH THE ROAD? THAT IS NOT FINISHED FOR TEN

YEARS? >> TRENTON: THE ONLY WAY WE CAN THROUGH THE PLATTING OF THIS.

BLUE THE PLATTING PROCESS. >> HE DOESN'T EVER HAVE TO BUILD THAT ROAD IF HE DOESN'T PUT SOMETHING THERE?

>> TRENTON: CORRECT. >> HOW MANY HOUSES ARE THEY GOING TO LOSE GOING FROM HOMES TO THIS? BECAUSE THEY LOSE FULL FIVE ACRES OF THE HOUSES?

>> CORRECT. >> SO HOW WILL IT AFFECT THEIR HOUSES PER ACRE? DO THEY GAIN THEM THEN ON THE

OTHER SIDE? >> TRENTON: ACCORDING TO HOW

THE P.D. IS WRITTEN -- >> THAT IS WHY I'M ASKING THIS

QUESTION. >> TRENTON: IT'S ONE THAT IS DONE PRIOR. THE DENSITY WOULD HAVE TO REMAIN THE SAME. HOW THE P.D. IS WRITTEN.

THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THE UNITS THEY HAVE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: BECAUSE IT CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF THE GREEN

SPACE AND EVERYTHING ELSE? >> NO.

STILL HAVE THE SAME. >> SO THEY JUST LOSE THAT MANY

HOUSES? >> TRENTON: CORRECT.

>> OKAY. >> MAYOR RENO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? WE HAVE A MOTION.

>> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO CLOSE.

SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 6-0. WITH CLARK WICKLIFFE ABSENT WHEN WE VOTED. CONVERSATION?

>> READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM APPROVED AS PRESENTED 6-0. AGAIN WITH CLARK ABSENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: OPEN

[2021-066 ]

>> MARCOS: THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT SEEKING TO ECK PAND THE BOUNDARY -- EXPAND THE BOUNDARY TO INCORPORATE THE EXISTING LOTS THAT ARE IN RED ON THE SCENE.

P.D. 93 IS ALY CONTROLLED DISTRICT THAT IS COMPOSED OF THE HISTORICALLY THEMED STRUCTURES.

THIS WILL ADD ADDITIONAL AND OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES.

OVERALL THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE 186 TOTAL PARKING SPACES.

FINAL PARKING COUNT CONTINGENT UPON CITY COUNCIL APPROVING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT.

THAT IS THE ITEM FOLLOWING THIS REZONE REQUEST.

ON THE SCREEN IS THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE FOUNDER'S ROW.

LOT 6 TO THE NORTH IS SLIGHTLY CUT OFF.

THIS IS LOT SIX RIGHT HERE. HERE IS THE FULL VIEW OF IT.

HISTORIC STRICTURE PLANNED ON LOT 6.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WILL CONTAIN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON AND THE OFF-STREET PARKING AS WELL A AS DUMPSTERS ON THIS.

THEY ARE PLANNING TO USE THE ANTIQUE BRICKS FOR THE ENCLOSURES OF THE DUMPSTERS. THEY WILL ALSO CONTAIN WALK-IN OPENINGS. THE ALLEYWAY THAT IS TO THE NORTH OF THIS WILL BE IMPROVED BY THE DEVELOPER.

THIS WILL ALLOW THE TRASH TRUCK TO ACCESS TO THE DUMPSTERS.

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>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHERE ARE THE DUMPSTERS?

>> MARCOS: SURE. THE DUMPSTERS ARE LOCATED, I WOULD SAY TO THE -- THAT IS THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE LOT 6. SO THEY ARE PLANNING FOR FOUR

DUMPSTERS. >> THERE ARE RESIDENTS TO EAST?

>> YES, SIR. >> WHY IS IT NOT OVER BY THE STREET? OR OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

LOT? >> MARCOS: THIS IS HOW THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THEIR SITE PLAN.

HIS VISION ON HOW HE WANTS THIS PROPERTY TO BE LAID OUT.

I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO BUILD AN EIGHT-FOOT TALL FENCE BETWEEN THIS LOT AND LOT 4.

THAT EIGHT-FOOT TALL FENCE WILL ALSO HAVE COLUMN, STONE COLUMNS EVERY 16 FEET. SO ULTIMATELY IT WILL HAVE ABOUT NINE COLUMNS ON THAT SIDE. BUT THAT WILL BE THE ONLY SCREENING THAT IS PROPOSED BETWEEN NO DUMPSTERS AND THE RESIDENTIAL LOT. APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING SIX DECORATIVE LIGHT POLES ON LOT SIX.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, APPLICANT WILL ALSO PLANT SEVEN TRADE TREES AS WELL. WE DID SEND 20 NOTIFICATION LETTERS OUT TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

TO DATE WE DID RECEIVE THREE RESPONSES.

ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE IN FULL FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE TOOK IT TO COMMISSION ON THE 19TH AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA ITEM.

STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE AGENDA ITEM AS WELL.

I'LL CONTINUE TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE ENTIRE CITY DO WE HAVE DUMPSTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE SITE OF THE PRIMARY PLACE IT WILL MAKE THE DUMP? MAKE THE TRASH?

>> MARCOS: NO, SIR. IT WOULD BE THE FIRST OF ITS

KIND. >> BESIDES HINDRANCE ON LOT FOUR IS THERE ANY REAL REASON THEY SHOULDN'T NEXT TO THE BUILDINGS

THAT THEY ARE SERVICING? >> MARCOS: WELL, YOU KNOW,

THIS IS THE VISION OF THE -- >> I KNOW THE VISION OF THE -- I

UNDERSTAND THAT. >> HAVE YOU BEEN ON BRANDEN BURGER AND SMELLED THE DUMPSTER AS YOU EAT?

>> THE DUMPSTER THAT THE GUY NEXT DOOR HAS TO LIVE WITH.

>> HE COULD HAVE WROTE A LETTER IN OPPOSITION?

>> YOU KNOW WHOSE PROPERTY -- >> COULDN'T YOU SAY THE DUMPSTER IS BEHIND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THAT SERVE THE RE/MAX BUILDING AND WHATNOT?

THAT IS OFF-SITE. >> NO.

IT'S ON A PUBLIC STREET. >> MARCOS: YEAH, SO THE WAY IT WORKS ACROSS THE STREET, THE DUMPSTERS THAT ARE BEHIND THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE YOU SAID? THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE BACK ALLEY PLAZA. IT DOES BACK UP TO THE 8TH STREET, THE FENCES THAT RUN ALONG 8TH STREET.

THEY DO, THEY SHARE THE DUMPSTERS.

ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU ARE SOMEWHAT KIND OF WALKING OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY BUT YOU ARE NOT WALKING ACROSS TECHNICALLY RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE YOU HAVE TO CROSS RIGHT-OF-WAY ULTIMATELY TO GET TO THE LOT 5R.

THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY -- NO. THAT IS.

THAT IS RIGHT. THAT IS 5R.

I CAN SAY THAT WE DID RECEIVE SUPPORT FROM I BELIEVE THE

OWNER -- >> COREY'S.

>> COREY'S. YEAH.

COREY DID CONTACT US AND LEND SUPPORT FOR THAT AS WELL.

BUT YOU KNOW IT'S A RENTAL HOME RIGHT NOW.

OBVIOUSLY, IT COULD TURN IN TO A REGULAR HOME THAT IS NOT A RENTAL. BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT

RIGHT NOW. >> COUNCILMEMBER: MY WHOLE THING IS THIS IS CROSSING A PUBLIC STREET.

BECAUSE I CAN DO THAT WITH APARTMENTS NOW TO MAKE MY PROPERTY CHEAPER. MAKE PEOPLE WHAT LIVE IN ONE SET OF APARTMENTS WALK ACROSS THE PUBLIC STREET.

BUT YOU HAVEN'T ALLOWED THAT. EVERYBODY HAS -- YOU ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO BUY OFF-STREET DUMPING FACILITY.

AND DRIVE BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE HIS IS 80 FEET.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN FOUR-MILE TRIP.

>> MARCOS: I'D SAY THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HERE IS OBVIOUSLY AGAIN, IT'S ALL PART OF THE SAME P.D.

THIS IS ALL PART OF THE SAME PROPERTY ASSOCIATION.

PROPERTY -- >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> MARCOS: THE PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION.

SO THEY ARE ON THE HOOK FOR MAINTAINING EVERYTHING THAT IS OFF-SITE FROM THE REGULAR FOUNDERS ROW.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU WANT TO PARK CARS THERE AND PUT A MUSEUM THERE, I GOT NO TROUBLE WITH ANY BIT OF THAT.

I DON'T WANT THE DUMPSTERS ON THE PROPERTY.

>> MARCOS: UNDERSTOOD. >> I HEAR YOU.

IT'S A VALID ARGUMENT. I RECALL IT BEING PART OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE AND ONE THING WE WENT OVER AND OVER ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WANTED SOMETHING UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT. HERE WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO IS DOING JUST THAT. CREATING THAT ALLEY SPACE ON THE MAIN BLOCK THAT HE IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED.

IN FACT I SAW THE COLUMN, THE STONE COLUMNS THERE NOW.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. CREATING THAT SORT OF THE OUTDOOR BACK ALLEY FEEL. IT LEAVES YOU NO PLACE TO PUT

[01:35:01]

>> MARCOS: THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

>> LET THEM SPEAK. >> MARCOS: SURE.

ABSOLUTELY. >> GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.

I'M STEPHEN AND I RESIDE IN MIDLOTHIAN AND I HAVE SINCE 2012. I FIRST STARTED TO BUY PROPERTY IN MIDLOTHIAN 1997 WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE BEHIND THE SONIC.

RUNDOWN RENT HOUSE. WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE IT TO A COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE.

IT WAS ZONED RESIDENTIAL WHEN I PURCHASED IT.

I BOUGHT IT FROM AN ATTORNEY WHO WANTED TO MAKE THE LAW OFFICE THERE. HE IS DECEASED AND HE DIDN'T GET TO FULFILL HIS DREAM. FROM BUYING THIS BLOCK, IF YOU REMEMBER IN 2005 I BOUGHT 6RR, THE FIRST LOT.

THIS WAS A HORRIBLE PART OF TOWN.

AND STILL TODAY WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL WORKFORCE ON OUR CORNER. LIKE WAITING FOR THEIR PICKUP RIDE. IN IS NOT HIGHLAND PARK.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING VERY, VERY UNIQUE.

WHEN WE FIRST DESIGNED FOUNDERS ROW, THE HOUSES ARE HISTORIC.

THEY ARE RAISED OFF THE GROUND. SO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE STUDIES IT WAS SAFER TO PUT THE A.D.A. ACCESS IN THE BACK PRIVATE ALLEY THAT WILL HAVE LESS TRAFFIC THAN A BUSY STREET.

ALL OF OUR HOUSES WILL BE ACCESS WITH AN A.D.A. RAMP TO THE REAR OF THE FACILITY. TO MAKE IT EQUAL WE WENT TO LOOK AT EVERY STRETCHTURE. WE SAID LET'S MAKE THE BACK AS PRETTY AS THE FRONT. ADD ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES SO AS THEY HAVE THE DINING EXPERIENCE AND IF YOU ARE IN A WHEELCHAIR OR A.D.A. YOU CAN ACCESS THE BACK AND JUST THE FRONT BEAUTIFUL SAME LOOK AS THE FRONT OF THE FACILITY.

SO JUST THINKING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS NICER, WE WANTED OUR DUMPSTERS ON THE OTHER PIECE OF THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD STILL LOVE TO BUY THE SURROUNDING LAND RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE I AM GOING TO PUT THE DUMPSTER.

WE HAVE DUMPSTERS DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE THREE DUMPSTERS.

I HAVE THE DUMPSTER IN THE MIDDLE.

I HAVE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE JASON THAT HIS FIRST RESPONSIBILITY IS TO GO DOWNTOWN, CHECK THAT DUMPSTER, WATER THE PLANTS AND KEEP OUR DOWNTOWN NICE.

WE WILL DO THE SAME WITH FOUNDERS ROW.

I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS LESS DESIRABLE.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE DESIRABLE.

IF WE PUT THE DUMPSTER ON THE OPEN SIDE I FELL LIKE IT WOULD BE -- LIKE IT WOULD VISUALLY BLOCK YOU WHEN YOU PULL IN AND PULL OUT AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS HAVE A DUMPSTER BLACK A CAR AND A IT WILL -- BLOCK A CAR AND CHILD IN THE PARKING LOT. YOU SEE IT ALL THE TIME.

LITTLE KIDS RUN FREE WHILE MOM AND DAD ARE DINING.

WE WANT THIS TO BE A SAFER CONDITION SO WE TUCK THE DUMPSTERS IN ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

BECAUSE VISUALLY IT DOESN'T BLOCK THE OPEN VIEW OF THE CARS PULLING IN AND PULLING OUT. AND THEN FOR LIGHT IT WILL BE FLOODED WITH LIGHT SO AT NIGHT PEOPLE COULD WALK OVER THERE TO THEIR CAR OR OUR EMPLOYEES WILL TAKE THEIR TRASH TO DUMPSTERS.

WE WILL HAVE THEM DUMP DAILY IF WE HAVE TO.

WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A BAD CONDITION.

NO WORSE THAN THE BAD CONDITION BEHIND THE HISTORIC FIREHOUSE.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: MORE QUESTIONS? >> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE A COMMENT. WELL, I GET THE OFF-SITE CONCERN. BUT I KIND OF DON'T SHARE IN THE OPINION BECAUSE IT'S A CONNECTING PROPERTY.

AND AS AS STEPHEN SAID OVER THE YEARS HE PURCHASED THE NEXT ONE AND THE NEXT ONE AND THE NEXT ONE.

I FULLY EXPECT THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE.

SO ALTHOUGH IT'S PROBABLY NOT SUPER DESIRABLE, IT HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES.

IT IS PROBABLY THE BEST OF THE SITUATION GIVEN CONSTRAINTS.

I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT. TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN, WE ALL SIT HERE AND WE HAVE SEEN IT OVER AND OVER.

HE IS DOING GREAT THINGS. SURE, IT'S TAKING A LONG TIME.

BUT BY THE TIME IT'S DONE IT WILL BE A GEM.

SO, I THINK WE SHOULD HELP OUT WHERE WE CAN.

>> MAYOR RENO: DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> NO, SIR. >> MAYOR RENO: IF YOU HAVE A

QUESTION, CLOSE THE OPEN -- >> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE. >> MINE IS NOT LIGHTING UP.

THERE IT IS. >> MINE IS STILL DEAD.

>> MAYOR RENO: ALL IN FAVOR, CLOSE THE OPEN?

DISCUSSION? >> I DON'T SEE ALTERNATIVE TO ACHIEVE THE LOOK HE IS GOING FOR WITH THE ALLEY THERE AND THE BACKDOOR DINING OF THE OLD FACILITIES.

[01:40:03]

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THEM. >> MAYOR RENO: WALTER, DID YOU

HAVE SOME MORE POINTS? >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: NO.

I JUST I AGREE WITH JUSTIN. WE SAID IT IN THE PLANNING MEETINGS. I THINK TO PRESERVE THE FUTURE DIRECTION AND THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN WE HAVE TO TAKE SOMETIMES LESS THAN POPULAR POSITIONS. TO GET TO THE FINAL GOAL.

I THINK THAT WHERE THIS COULD BE PERCEIVED AS LESS THAN POPULAR IT HAS THE SUPPORT. I FULLY, I FULLY BELIEVE HE WILL DO EVERYTHING HE SAYS HE WILL DO BECAUSE HE HAS SHOWN IT OVER AND

OVER. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

>> I MAY BE DIGGING DOWN IN WEEDS TOO MUCH.

I'M SURE THAT STAFF WILL HANDLE THIS.

I WANT CONFIRM WE'LL PUT OUT PEDESTRIAN WALKING SIGNS AND WHATEVER SIGNAGE WE NEED TO ALERT THE TRAFFIC THAT THERE IS -- THERE WILL BE A LOT OF CROSSING THE STREET THERE LATE AT NIGHT WITH THE BAGS FULL OF TRASH.

WHATEVER SIGNAGE WE MIGHT NEED I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

>> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT. ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOW.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE. >> AND THERE IS A SIDEWALK.

>> MAYOR RENO: THE ITEM PASSES 7-0.

WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO FOUNDER'S ROW, BY THE WAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT. ITEM 2021-067, CONSIDER AND ACT

[2021-067]

MARCOS? >> MARCOS: THANK YOU.

THIS IS THE EXHIBIT FROM THE LAST RIGHT-OF-WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT. COUNCIL APPROVED SHORTER DISTANCES BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION AND THE ACTUAL PARKING AREA. THE APPLICANT PROPOSING WITH THE NEW LOT HE IS PURCHASING YOU CAN SEE THE OFFSET OF THE 35 FEET.

34 FEET ON ONE SIDE. THE LOT TO THE NORTH 36, 22 OFFSET. THE CLOSE HAVE A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 100 FEET PER THE TYPICAL REGULATION.

OR STATED BY THE CITY ENGINEER. IN THE TOWN AREA OR THE CITY CORE AREA WE TYPICALLY SUPPORT A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 50 FEET.

THE APPLICANT LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED FOR FOUNDER'S ROW.

STAFF HAS NO ISSUE SUPPORT THE ON-STREET PARKING.

WE DO STICK TO THE 50-FOOT SETBACK.

WE FEEL IT'S A SAFER DISTANCE TO IMPROVE THE MOTORIST AND PEDESTRIAN SIGHT LINE AND ALLOW THEM TO SAFELY REACT.

WE HAVE ALWAYS HELD THAT POSITION WITH THE 50.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL BUT WE HAVE THE CONDITION IN THERE THAT THE SETBACK HAVE THE 50-FOOT FROM ANY INTERSECTION. WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR

QUESTIONS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU STILL RECOMMEND 50 FEET EVEN THOUGH ON THE OTHER END HE HAS 22 AND 36?

>> MARCOS: YES, SIR. THAT IS MORE OF A STANDING, THAT IS STAFF'S POSITION FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.

OBVIOUSLY, COUNCIL APPROVED THE OTHER SIZE.

WHICH WE ARE FINE WITH. IF WE WANT TO STAY CONSISTENT WE STAY CONSISTENT. THAT IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION LAST, THE 50-FOOT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION LAST TIME AND THE COUNCIL CHOSE A DIFFERENT

DISTANCE. >> WOULDN'T IT CHANGE THE WHOLE P.D.? ALREADY DONE THAT?

>> MARCOS: WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE -- SORRY.

IS A I IT -- SAY IT AGAIN. >> PARKING WOULD HAVE BEEN LAID OUT IN PERIMETER OF THE P.D., THEY WOULD HAVE AMENDED THE LAST TIME THEY GAVE HIM THE 26 AND 36.

BY RIGHT THROUGH THE P.D. SHOULDN'T HE BE GIVEN THE 26 AND

36 ON THE NORTHWEST END? >> MARCOS: WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS TECHNICALLY IF WE ARE ADOPTING THE SITE PLAN, YEAH.

I MEAN, THESE MEASUREMENT ARE SHOWN IN THE ZONING CASE WE JUST APPROVED RIGHT NOW. BUT, IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T CLARIFY THE FINAL AMOUNT OF THE PARKING SPACES.

[01:45:06]

HE HAS POTENTIAL TO GET UP TO 136.

THAT IS IF YOU ACCEPT THE 36 AND 22 FOOT SETBACK.

OR OTHERWISE WE ARE NOT AT THE 186 FOR THE ENTIRE P.D.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: STAFF ALWAYS HAS TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

I WAS CURIOUS WHEN THEY APPROVED IT LAST TIME WAS AT IT BLANKET OVER THE WHOLE P.D. AS IT'S NOW THE STANDARD FOR THE WHOLE

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT? >> MARCOS: IT WAS A STAN THIRD THROUGH THE -- HOW DO I SAY. THE STANDARD THROUGH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT TO HOLD THESE PARTICULAR SETBACKS. I BELIEVE THAT IS HOW WE DID IT.

WE APPROVED THOSE PARTICULAR SETBACK WHEN WE DID THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT.

SAME PROCESS. ABSOLUTELY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THE CONCERN I HAVE THE DEPTH OF THE PARKING SPOT 20. FEET?

>> MARCOS: 20 FEET IS STANDARD.

THOSE SHOULD ALL BE AT LEAST 9X18.

>> WE HAVE 10X20. WE HAVE A SIX-FOOT SIDEWALK AND IT WILL ALSO BE IN THE CURB SIDE.

WE DON'T WANT IT TO ENCROACH AND NOT HAVE ANY --

[INAUDIBLE] >> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT IS WHAT

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. >> --OF THE --

>> SO THEY CAN'T BACK IN AND HAVE THE TAILGATE OR THE TRAILER

HITCH, WALK IN TO IT. >> MARCOS: IT LOOKS LIKE THE OFF-STREET PARKING IS THE 10X20.

IT'S THE ON STREET PARKING THAT HAS GOT THE 18-FOOT I WIDTH.

>> THE 20 FOOT DEPTH? >> THAT IS INTERNAL TO HAVE A

20-FOOT DEPTH. >> ON THE OUTSIDE?

>> ON THE OUTSIDE THEY ONLY HAVE 18.

HE IS PROPOSING 18. >> SHOULDN'T PARK PICKUPS THERE.

>> IT'S CONSISTENT WITH DOWNTOWN.

THE STANDARD SHOT IS 9X18. IF WE MAKE IT GENEROUS IT'S FOR

THE LARGER CARS. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> THE TREND IS CARS GETTING SMALLER.

ELECTRIC AND THE ALTERNATIVES. >> WELL, MAYBE YOU JUST NEED TO PUT NO PARKING FOR PICKUPS. [LAUGHTER]

>> WE WANT ALL THE PICKUPS TO PARK!

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> MAYOR RENO: DO YOU HAVE A

MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> IT'S NOT. IT'S REGULAR.

>> MAYOR RENO: ITEM PASSES 7-0.

THANK YOU, MARCOS. AND STEPHEN.

>> YOU DIDN'T SPECIFY TO APPROVE THE 50 -- THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. IF WE APPROVE THE 50-FOOT OR THE

26 OR 30. >> JOE?

>> AS PRESENTED? >> YEAH.

>> MAYOR RENO: YEAH. >> PRESENTED WITH EVERYTHING

SHOWN. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE APPROVING WITH THE 22-FOOT. THAT IS WHAT THE COUNCIL THOUGHT THEY WERE APPROVING AND NOT THE 50.

>> YES. >> OKAY.

>> IF YOU APPROVE THIS AS IS -- >> WE'RE GOOD.

GOOD. >> MAYOR RENO: COUNCIL WE APPROVED IT AS PRESENTED. OKAY.

[2021-068 ]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BACK AT THE JANUARY WORKSHOP IT WAS DECIDED ON THE FOUR PROPOSITIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUSH FORTH FOR THE CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

SO THOSE ARE PROPOSITION "A" TO BUILD PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS FOR THE $46 MILLION.

PROPOSITION "B" TO BUILD A CITY HALL AND PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR $25 MILLION. PROPOSITION "C," FOR CONSTRUCTING OF A RECREATION CENTER FOR THE $19 MILLION.

AND PROPOSITION "D," TO BUILD CITY STREET AND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE $35,575,000.

AS YOU WILL RECALL, THE CITIZEN PLANNING GROUP WAS PUT TOGETHER.

THEY HELD A SERIES OF MEETINGS AND MADE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION.

THIS FOLLOWS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.

AS STATED PREVIOUSLY IN THE JANUARY WORKSHOP, THIS WAS THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO STAFF. SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER

[01:50:01]

CALL THE ELECTION FOR MAY 1. >> YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE COUNCIL POSITION?

>> NO. YOU WILL -- IF YOU WANT TO CALL THE ELECTION, THAT IS WHAT IS IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. GOT IT.

>> MAYOR RENO: THE ITEMS ON THERE AND THE ORDER AND HOW THEY

ARE COMBINED. >> YES.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO KEEP IN MIND THAT LIKE THE CITY HALL AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

IF YOU PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND THAT IS HOW THEY ARE VOTED THEY HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER. THEY CAN'T BE SPLIT LATER ON.

IF YOU WANT TO SPLIT THEM, LIKE SEPARATE CITY HALL AND THE LIBRARY TO A TRAIL BILL YOU NEED ACCEPT PROPOSITIONS ON -- SEPARATE BILL YOU NEED SEPARATE PROPOSITIONS.

>> I THOUGHT $25 MILLION WAS JUST FOR CITY HALL AND IT DIDN'T

INCLUDE LIBRARY. >> IT INCLUDES BOTH.

>> OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER $10

MILLION FOR A LIBRARY. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T NOT --

>> THIS IS FOR THE FACILITY. >> MAYOR RENO: DOES IT HAVE TO BE EXACTLY AS STATED HERE OR DO WE HAVE SOME LEEWAY HOW WE WORD

IT ON THE -- >> IT PROBABLY HAS SOME LEEWAY.

WE HAVE SOME ATTORNEYS BEHIND ME.

THAT IF YOU WANT TO PROPOSE A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WE MIGHT NEED TO RUN IT BY THEM TO MAKE SURE.

>> WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET RIGHT NOW IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL APPEAR ON THE BALLOT. THAT VOTERS WILL VOTE FOR OR

AGAINST. >> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

>> MAYOR RENO: THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ON THE REC CENTER, WE MAY WANT TO SAY IT'S YMCA MANAGED REC CENTER.

>> THEN YOU ARE GOING TO, YOU HAVE TO USE IT FOR THAT.

YOU WON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

SO WE ARE MORE FLEXIBLE THIS WAY.

>> RIGHT. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

>> BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO VOTE I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT.

FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT WATCH THIS ONLINE LATER AND THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAS BEEN A REALLY LONG PROCESS TO GET TO THIS POINT. MANY YEARS OF THE PLANNING BY THE CITY STAFF. AND A LONG PROCESS BY THE DEDICATED CITIZENS WHO GAVE UP THE FREE TIME IN ORDER TO COME TOGETHER TO PINPOINT THE CITY'S GREATEST NEEDS AND ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THEM. I WILL ALSO MAKE THIS STATEMENT I BELIEVE LEGALLY THIS COUNCIL COULD TAKE ALL OF THESE ITEMS TO VOTE. AND ISSUE THE FUNDING FOR THEM.

THIS COUNCIL HAS DECIDED TO TAKE IT TO THE PEOPLE.

AND LET THE PEOPLE MAKE THIS DECISION OF HOW THEY WANT TO BUILD THEIR COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

THAT I BELIEVE IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO GET THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE BIG TICKET ITEMS AND LET THEM DECIDE WHAT MIDLOTHIAN WILL LOOK LIKE IN FIVE, 10, 15, 20 YEARS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I REMEMBER THE LAST BOND. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PROPAGANDA, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BALLOT LANGUAGE.

I REMEMBER PUTTING OUT THERE THIS WILL NOT RAISE THE TAX RATE, THIS WILL NOT RAISE THE TAX RATE.

WAS IT ON THE BALLOT OR STUFF WE PUT OUT?

>> THAT WOULD JUST GO OUT IN THE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS.

IT WOULD NOT BOT ON THE BALLOT. >> OKAY.

>> COULD YOU ADDRESS QUICKLY SINCE WE ARE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING LATER, THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WILL -- IF THIS WERE TO PASS IN MAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL IMMEDIATELY ISSUE ALL OF THIS DEBT.

IT'S JUST SORT OF LIKE CHARGE IT, YOU HAVE A CREDIT CARD, YOU HAVE THE SPENDING ABILITY AT THAT POINT AND TIMING WOULD BE

DETERMINED. >> YES.

THE MONEY IS NOT ISSUED IMMEDIATELY.

THAT COMES BACK BEFORE DECIDING WHEN THE BONDS ARE ISSUE.

YOU HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO ISSUE AND YOU COULD CHOOSE NEVER TO ISSUE THEM OR ISSUE THEM THAT IS THE SCENARIO, YOU WILL ISSUE THEM IN INCREMENTAL PIECES THAT BASED ON THE FINANCIAL CONDITION OF THE CITY AT THAT TIME. IT WOULD CALL FOR THE AUDIENCE, THE PROPOSAL WE PUT BEFORE THE C.P.G. WAS BASICALLY AN EIGHT-YEAR PLAN TO DO THE BONDS. IF EVERYTHING WORKED ACCORDING TO THE PLANS BASED ON THE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS, WE ARE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY EIGHT YEARS TO ISSUE ALL OF THESE.

THAT COULD SPEED UP, SLOW DOWN. BASED ON THE FINANCIAL CONDITIONS AND/OR THE COUNCIL'S DECISIONS ON WHEN TO ISSUE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: AND DOING THAT OVER THE SPREAD OF TIME AND MAINTAIN THE TAX RATE WE HAVE.

>> CORRECT. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING I FAILED TO MENTION. ASSUMPTION ALSO THAT THE TOTAL

TAX RATE WOULD BE HELD CONSTANT. >> THANK YOU.

[01:55:01]

>> I NEED CLARIFICATION. IF WE PASS THIS TODAY THE CITY HALL AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, THE WORDING, THEY WOULD BE TOGETHER.

NO WAY AT THIS POINT TO SEPARATE THIS?

>> MAYOR RENO: WELL, WE CAN SEPARATE IT.

BUT AFTER WE TAKE A VOTE WE WILL BE, WE ARE TO STAY TRUE TO WHAT WE VOTE ON. WE CAN SPLIT IT DOWN.

IF THE COUNCIL SO CHOOSE. >> I BELIEVE WE SHOULD.

I DON'T THINK THE VOTERS SHOULD HAVE TO DO A PACKAGE DEAL.

I BELIEVE THE VOTERS SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE ON THOSE.

NOT HAVE TO GO WELL, I THINK WE NEED A NEW CITY HALL BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED A NEW LIBRARY BUT YOU'LL VOTE YET FOR IT BECAUSE OF THAT. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATED. IN MY OPINION.

>> I GUESS TO THAT POINT, ARE WE EQUIPPED WITH APPROXIMATE AMOUNT A FREESTANDING LIBRARY MIGHT COST?

>> WE COULD PROBABLY SPLIT IT. I THINK IT'S $20 MILLION AND $5

MILLION. >> MAYOR RENO: THE TOTAL WOULD

REMAIN THE SAME. >> APPROXIMATELY.

IT BRINGS IN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE LAND THAT WE OWN. SO, DEPENDING ON THE SITES WE ENDED UP CHOOSING. WE BASE A LOT OF THIS ON THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET. IF THOSE WERE SPLIT AND WE HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU COULD CHANGE THE COST ON THAT.

>> MAYOR RENO: WE COULD -- MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS POINT. IF WE SPLIT THEM ON THE BALLOT, WE CAN COMBINE THEM WHEN WE COME BACK --

>> YOU COULD. YOU COULD CHOOSE COLOCATE THEM

TOGETHER. >> MAYOR RENO: SO WE HAVE MORE LATITUDE. THE QUESTION COMES CONFIDENCE WE

HAVE -- WELL, NO. >> I MEAN, DOES THIS COUNCIL INTEND TO PUT THE LIBRARY IN THE CITY HALL?

>> MAYOR RENO: THE C.P.G., CITIZENNING PLANNING GROUP -- THE CITIZEN PLANNING GROUP, 25 CITIZENS VERY ACTIVE AND THEY WERE FAIRLY UNANIMOUS IN THAT. THESE ARE THE FOUR THINGS THEY PUT TO COUNCIL WITH THE LIBRARY AND THE CITY HALL COMBINED.

SO THAT IS WHAT THAT GROUP DID. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WE HEARD FROM A GROUP OF CITIZENS RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

THEY WANT THEM COMBINED. >> MAYOR RENO: WELL, IT'S STILL A CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL.

>> THE COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.

YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

>> I DO APPRECIATE THE POINT THAT HUD HARTSON MADE AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY.

BUT I LIKE TO LEAN BACK ON THE FACT WE HAD A GROUP OF CITIZENS PUT THIS TOGETHER AND WE ARE LEANING ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR THESE THINGS. I THINK IT TAKES A LARGE PART OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF US AS A COUNCIL.

SO, THAT IS ANOTHER POINT TO DISCUSS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I AGREE WITH THAT, JUSTIN.

WE HAVE A GROUP OF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TOGETHER AND THIS IS WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. THAT WAS THE POINT OF GETTING THEM TOGETHER. IF WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND SIGH NO, WE WON'T DO IT YOUR WAY AND WE'LL DO IT OURS.

I THINK THAT IS WRONG. >> MAYOR RENO: WE ARE STILL

DOING -- >> WE DISAGREE WITH THE P&Z AT TIMES WHEN WE TAKE VOTES AS WELL.

>> ONLY WHEN THEY'RE WRONG. >> MAYOR RENO: BUT WE ARE STILL DOING THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE GROUP SAID.

WE DO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY. >> I THINK IF WE SPLIT THEM UP AND WE GET, AND THE VOTE COMES IN, WE CAN PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.

YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> IT'S NOT A SWORD I'M GOING TO DIE ON HERE TODAY.

WHATEVER THE GROUP DECIDES. >> WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IF

THEY ARE SEPARATED. >> I AGREE WITH YOU.

>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I WAS NOT PART OF THAT.

I HAD SCHEDULING CONFLICTS AND I MADE JUST THE LAST DAY.

WHAT WOULD -- FORGIVE ME IF WE CAN'T ASK THIS QUESTION.

WHAT WOULD BE THE CITY STAFF'S HESITATION TO SEPARATING THAT OR

IS THERE? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING PARTICULAR ABOUT SEPARATING.

AGAIN, I THINK PROBABLY THE ONLY HESITATION IS LIKE I MENTIONED DEPENDS ON HOW IT ULTIMATELY GETS BUILT.

IF THE COUNCIL DID NOT WANT TO COMBINE THEM TOGETHER AFTERWARDS AND CO-LOCATE THEM ON THE SAME TSITE WE MIGHT INCUR EXPENSES WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT. BUT IF THE PLAN IS TO GO BACK TO SAY THEY BOTH PASS AND WE WILL CO-LOCATE THEM BACK TOGETHER.

PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF CONCERN. >> THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO I PROVE IF IT IS IN CITY HALL. THEY MIGHT WANT TO APPROVE IT --

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IF WE APPROVE IT SEPARATELY AND THEY SAY WHY IS IT IN CITY HALL?

I WANT A STAND ALONE LIBRARY? >> WE COULD LOSE CITY HALL THEN.

>> YEAH. >> MAYOR RENO: THAT IS A

CONCERN I THINK. >> SO IN OTHER WORDS WE HAVE LAWYERS BEHIND YOU. DO WE MAKE AN "E"?

>> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. IF ANOTHER THOUGHT PROCESS IS, IF THE LIBRARY PASSES AND NOT THE CITY HALL DO YOU TAKE UP THE SPACE IT WAS INTENDED TO GO ORIGINALLY OR FIND SOME PLACE ELSE FOR A STAND ALONE LIBRARY AND LEAVE IT AVAILABLE IN

DOWNTOWN? >> I THINK FOR ALL THE TIMES I VOTED ON BUYING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENTION OF THE CITY HALL, PERIOD.

>> YEAH. >> WELL THAT GOES BACK TO THE COMBINING THEM. IF WE SEPARATE THEM -- I SEE TO THE VOTER WHY YOU GIVE THEM A CHOICE.

BUT IF IT PASSES, WE DON'T HAVE A SPOT FOR IT.

WE WON'T PUT IT WHERE WE WANT CITY HALL AND WE DON'T HAVE OTHER DIRT FOR IT. YOU CAN EAT UP $5 MILLION FAST

IN THE DIRT COST. >> I THINK WE NEED TO GO LIKE IT

WAS PLANNED BY THE COMMITTEE. >> MAYOR RENO: I THINK AS PRESENTED, TO ME WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF REALIZING THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. WITH THEM TOGETHER.

WHICH IS. >> WE'RE JUST BEING UP FRONT.

PUTTING IT IN CITY HALL. >> MAYOR RENO: THAT IS WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. THAT IS THE BEST THING FOR THE

COMMUNITY. >> IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, THEY

CAN VOTE THEM BOTH DOWN. >> MAYOR RENO: BUT THAT IS HARSH. YOU ARE RIGHT.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU CONSIDER A WIN.

>> SEPARATE THEM OR NOT TO SEPARATE THEM?

>> SEPARATE. >> NOT SEPARATE.

>> TAKE A VOTE. IF IT'S TOGETHER IT'S WHAT

PASSES. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

WHAT IS PRESENTED. >> SECOND THAT.

>> MAYOR RENO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO PRESENT TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. WITH THE FOUR OPTIONS WITH THE LIBRARY, CITY HALL TOGETHER. THE SECONDED.

WE CAN HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION HERE IF SOMEBODY WISHES TO SAY SOMETHING. ANY COMMENTS? COUNCIL, PLACE YOUR VOTE. ITEM PASSES 5-2.

AS PRESENTED. WITH THE FOUR ITEMS ON THE BOND.

THANK YOU. SAY SOMETHING POSITIVE BUT Y'ALL

TOLD ME NOT TO. >> ON MY BEST BEHAVIOR.

>> WHY? >> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT.

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BOND. >> GIVEN THE PREVIOUS ITEM OF CALLING THE ELECTION THIS IS A SIMILAR APPROACH THAT WE TOOK IN THE LAST ELECTION. WE HIRED A CONSULTANT AND THEN WE PROVIDED AND WE PAID FOR MAIL-OUT MATERIAL.

SO THE LAST TIME WE DID ABOUT FOUR MAILOUTS TO THE VOTERS.

WE DID PROMOTIONAL VIDEO. FACEBOOK, THOSE THINGS TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE VOTERS ABOUT THE ELECTION.

SO PART OF THIS IS $18,500 FOR THE CONSULTING.

THE OTHER APPROXIMATELY $72,000 IS FOR ALL THE MATERIALS AND THE PROMOTIONAL ITEMS. SO IF WE WERE NOT DOING THE CONSULTANT AND YOU STILL WANTED TO DO ALL THE INFORMATIONAL BROCHURES YOU ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE $70,000 GIVE OR TAKE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK, THE LAST PAGE OF THE AGENDA ITEM, THERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE COSTS ARE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL OF THESE.

YOU PICK AND CHOOSE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THEM. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THE INTENT HERE IS TO INFORM THE VOTERS ABOUT THE FOUR PROPOSITIONS THAT

WERE JUST VOTED UPON. >> LET ME ASK WHAT THE

CONSULTANTS -- >> THE CONSULTANTS TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS BASICALLY THE FORMAL WE USED IN 2017 FOR THE LAST BOND ELECTION.

>> WE HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE NOW.

>> WE DO. YEAH, THE COST -- THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE A LITTLE INCREASE OF THE COST BECAUSE OF THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU WE SPENT APPROXIMATELY $70,000 ON THIS SAME TYPE OF THE ITEMS IN 2017. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE

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THINGS THAT WE DID IN THE PAST. >> THIS IS THE SAME CONSULTANT?

>> CORRECT. >> MAYOR RENO: AS THE LAST TIME. CHILDREN, QUESTION?

>> I THINK IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN EDUCATING THE VOTERS TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE FOR THEM AND THE FAMILY.

THIS IS BEING INTENTIONAL TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

NOT WINNING VOTES BUT EDUCATING THE VOTER.

IT'S WISE AND ANY CHANCE WE DO WE SHOULD.

>> IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS IS NOT ADVOCATING FOR YES OR NO.

IT'S JUST PROVIDING WHAT IS IN THE BALLOT.

INFORMATION ONLY. WE CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR TAXPAYERS MONEY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THIS IS GETTING OUT PROPOSITION AND THE VOTING LOCATIONS, ET CETERA.

>> HOW DID WE GO ABOUT MAKING MAYES?

>> WHEN WE PICKED THEM THE FIRST TIME IN 2017, THEY HAD DONE THE SCHOOL BOND ELECTION IN 2016. A LOT OF ELECTIONS, CITY OF ARLINGTON AND THE HIGHER PROFILE ELECTIONS THERE.

THEY COME WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN ELECTIONS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD BUT OBVIOUSLY OVER THE YEARS THE SOCIAL MEDIA BEING A TOOL FOR THE INFORMATION AND EDUCATION HAS REALLY TAKEN OFF.

WILL THEY USE, WILL THEY TEAM ONE OUR EDUCATION DEPARTMENT AND PUSH IT OUT WITH OUR CHANNELS AS WELL OR DO THEY THEIR OWN

CHANNELS? >> SO THERE IS FACEBOOK ADS, ET CETERA. THEY TEND TO SHY AWAY FROM THE JUST DOING A DEDICATED FACEBOOK PAGE.

BECAUSE OF HOW YOU GET A LOT OF CONTENTION.

>> WITH THE PUBLIC RELATIONS TEAM.

>> SO WE'LL TRY TO PUSH IT OUT THROUGH OUR CHANNELS, ET CETERA.

BUT TRY NOT TO CREATE A FORUM WHERE THERE IS A BUNCH OF CONTENTION BACK AND FORTH BUT WE WILL USE FACEBOOK AND THE SOCIAL

MEDIA TO PUSH INFORMATION OUT. >> GREAT.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER: A LOT OF THAT WHETHER YOU PUT ANYTHING IN THERE OR NOT.

>> CORRECT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: AS SOON AS SOMEBODY SEES IT AND THEY DON'T LIKE IT THEY WILL GET SOMEBODY

ELSE. >> EVERYBODY HAS OPINIONS.

WE WELCOME THEM. THIS IS JUST TO EDUCATE THEM.

>> YEAH. >> YOU JUST WANT TO KNOW WE WANT TO DO THE WHOLE LIST OR PART OF THE LIST?

>> OUR PROPOSAL IS TO DO THE LIST.

IF THERE ARE ISSUES, OR YOU THINK THERE ARE THINGS ON THIS LIST YOU DON'T WANT TO DO, WE CAN CUT THOSE DOWN.

>> I MEAN I WOULD RATHER SOMEONE COME TO ME AND SAY THERE HAS BEEN TOO MUCH INFORMATION THAN NOT ENOUGH.

I LOVE THE WHOLE LIST. MAYOR READY FOR A MOTION?

>> MAYOR RENO: POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THIS LIST IS NOT BINDING PER SE. IT'S A GENERAL INTENT.

THE POINT IS THE $70,000 IS THE POINT.

>> YEAH. >> THIS IS THE INTENT.

>> ALL WE ARE APPROVING IS THE MONEY.

>> MAYOR RENO: BEST DISCRETION ON PART OF STAFF.

YES. WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR RENO: WAYNE, YOU WANT

TO SECOND? >> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: YES.

>> MAYOR RENO: OKAY. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 7-0. WE AIM TO ENTERTAIN.

[INAUDIBLE] >> NOW WE HAVE TO GET THE MONEY

FOR IT. >> MAYOR RENO: YES.

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>> AS WAYNE STATED THIS IS NOW AMEND THE BUDGET TO PAY FOR

PREVIOUS ITEM. >> MOTION.

>> MOVE APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: ITEM PASSES 7-0.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: AS PRESENTED.

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YOU HAVE THE PLEASURE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO COME UP TO LET YOU KNOW I KNOW PEOPLE ARE REALLY EXCITED AND WE HEAR A LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT THE EVENT. ON THAT NOTE I AM GOING TO TURN

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>> HI. I'M ALI.

I LIVE AT 140 CANADIAN DRIVE IN VENUS.

SO THE WINE & ARTS FESTIVAL, WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE AGAIN THIS SPRING. MAY 1 IS OUR PROPOSED DATE.

AND I WOULD LOVE FOR Y'ALL TO COME AND SUPPORT THAT.

WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS WITH THE PANDEMIC THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON TO MAKE IT A SAFE VENT.

WE ARE EXPECTING A LOWER NUMBER OF GUESTS MOST LIKELY THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE. BUT WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE PLENTY OF SPACE TO SPREAD OUT AND BE SAFE WITH THE CITIZENS AND LET OUR BIDSES HAVE SOME GREAT VISIBILITY AND THE GREAT TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO SUPPORT THE SMALL BUSINESSS THAT ARE DOWNTOWN. AND THOSE THAT COME IN AS VENDORS AS WELL. QUESTIONS?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

MAY 1, ALSO, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A BOOTH FOR EDUCATION FOR OUR

BOND PACKAGE. >> THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLA

PLATFORM. >> COUNCILMEMBER: IS THERE A CUTOFF TIME FOR DETERMINING THE VIABILITY SHOULD ANYTHING GO UP OR DOWN? DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR THAT?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OR HOW MUCH OF THE MONEY WOULD BE SPENT SO TO SPEAK -- THAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT ONE.

BASICALLY WHAT IS THE PLAN IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG?

>> WELL, WE HAVE CANCELED -- WE CANCELED THE JULY EVENT WITH LIKE TEN DAYS' NOTICE. SOME OF THE ITEMS WE HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR AT THAT TIME. AND SO WE HAVE GOT CREDIT WAITING WITH A COUPLE OF THE VENDORS BECAUSE WE ALREADY PAID THE DEPOSITS. WITH THE HOPES THAT WE WOULD HAVE IT LATER IN THE YEAR AND IT GOT CANCELED COMPLETELY.

I MEAN LAST YEAR, ELLIS COUNTY MARKET WAS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 15. THE GOVERNOR SHUT THINGS DOWN THE NIGHT OF THE 13TH. AND WE CALLED ALL THE VENDORS THE NEXT DAY AND CANCELED. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN.

IF YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBERS ARE INCREASING AND THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE GATHERING, OR THE SAFETY OF THE EVENT, LET US KNOW AS SOON AS YOU HAVE THOSE CONCERNS.

BECAUSE THE SOONER WE KNOW ABOUT THOSE THINGS THE MORE TIME WE HAVE TO ADJUST. HEATHER IS RIGHT.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLING US WANTING TO KNOW -- WE GOT A LOT OF THE HEAT FOR CANCELING THE FALL FESTIVAL.

WHEN THE NUMBERS WERE GOING UP. SO, WE ARE HOPING THAT BY MAY 1, VACCINES ARE MORE DISTRIBUTED. THE PEOPLE AT RISK HAVE BEEN COVERED. THERE IS LESS VIRUS AROUND.

AND IF WE TAKE PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND DISTANCED, SHE BROUGHT MAPS. WOULD YOU GIVE THEM THE MAPS SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE REALLY SPREAD OUT THE WINERIES ALL OVER THE DOWNTOWN AREA. BECAUSE THOSE END UP BE WHERE THE LINES FORM. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO ASK ALL THE STORE OWNERS IF THEY ARE HOSTING A WINERY.

THEY HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO OBSERVE WHATEVER THE GUIDELINES ARE IN PLACE FOR THEM ON MAY 1 SO THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND CAPACITY

ARE MAINTAINED. >> TWO THINGS TO CLARIFY ON THIS MAP WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT. THERE IS A BUNCH OF LITTLE BOXES. THOSE ARE THE VENDOR BOOTHS THROUGHOUT THE STREET. NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE A 10X10 BOOTH FOR EACH VENDOR BUT THE COMMITTEE DECIDED IT SHOULD BE A 10X20 BOOTH. SO VENDORS CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE SHOPPER IN THEIR BOOTH. AND THAT MORE LIKELY GIVES THEM MORE SPACE TO SPREAD OUT, LETS PEOPLE THINK I CAN.

SO IT WOULD ENCOURAGE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

I HAVE CAREFULLY STARTED TO SELECT WINERY LOCATIONS THAT ANY LINES THAT MAY START TO FORM AT THOSE, THERE ARE SPACE THAT WE CAN KEEP SOCIAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THOSE WITHOUT BEING CONCERNED FOR OTHER SHOPPERS. OTHER THING WE DECIDED TO DESIGNATE SPECIFIC EATING AND THE DRINKING AREAS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO TAKE MASKS OFF TO TAKE A SIP OF WINE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT NECESSARILY BEING AROUND SOMEONE WHO IS JUST WALKING BY AND WANTS TO KEEP THEIR MASK ON AND NOT BE WITHIN SIX FEET OF THE PERSON. HOPEFULLY IT WILL KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. THERE ARE HAND WASHING STATIONS ALL OVER. THOSE ARE FAIRLY NEW.

NORMALLY WE HAVE THEM AROUND THE RESTAURANT AND FOOD AREAS BUT WE HAVE A FEW MORE SET OUT. WE ARE ASKING VENDORS TO ALSO SUPPLY HAND SANITIZERS AS WELL SO WE CAN MAKE IT READILY

[02:15:04]

>> COUNCILMEMBER: QUICK QUESTION.

DO Y'ALL NORMALLY USE THE CITY STAGE? I LOOK AT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE STAGE.

DON'T THEY NORMALLY USE IT? >> YES.

STAFF AND US HAVE KIND OF LOOKED AT THAT AS AN OPTION.

AT THIS POINT OUR ANTICIPATION WE SHOULD RENT A STAGE THROUGH FIRST CLASS PRODUCTIONS. ERIN ENGERSAL.

AT THIS POINT WE WANT TO RENT A STAGE.

THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE NEXT LINE ITEM.

>> MAYOR RENO: I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF OURSELVES.

IT'S ALL FOR WALT EVERY'S -- WALTER'S QUESTION BUT THIS IS GERMANE TO THE VOTE. YOU ARE ASKING FOR $25,000 FROM THE HOT FUND. IF THE FESTIVAL WAS CANCELED HOW MUCH OF THIS WILL -- ESTIMATE. HOW MUCH IS SPENT AND WHAT PERCENT IS COMMITTED AND WHAT PERCENT WILL NOT BE SPENT?

>> MORE OF IT WILL SPENT THE CLOSER WE GET.

>> MAYOR RENO: I UNDERSTAND. >> SO, I WOULD SAY DID WE LOSE

ANY OF OUR DEPOSITS FROM 2020? >> NO, ACTUALLY --

>> SO WE SHOULDN'T LOSE ANY OF IT GONE.

>> MAYOR RENO: SOME OF THIS YOU WILL HAVE TO SPEND WON'T

YOU? >> YES.

>> MAYOR RENO: ROUGHLY, WHAT PERCENT IS COMMITTED?

>> 25% TO 50%? >> CLOSER TO 25%.

SOME OF THE VENDORS ARE ABLE TO TAKE PAYMENT CLOSER TO 48, 24 HOURS AT OR EVEN AFTER. USUALLY PRETTY SAFE.

>> MAYOR RENO: $17,000 IS COMMITTED.

>> BUT WE WON'T LOSE IT. WE HAVE IT IN THE POCKET FOR

NEXT YEAR. >> IT'S IN ESCROW.

>> THAT IS WHAT -- WELL, SOME OF IT WILL BE --

>> I WOULD SAY YOU WILL PROBABLY LOSE, LIKE THE ADVERTISEMENT.

THE ADVERTISING IS PAID FOR. YOU CAN TAKE THE $3,500 THAT IS ON THE LIST FOR THE ADVERTISING, THAT IS PROBABLY SPENT AND GONE.

BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR IN ADVANCE OF THE EVENT.

>> THAT IS TRUE. THAT IS TRUE.

>> SO THE 25% NUMBER, THE INSURANCE POLICY, PROBABLY HAVE

TO BUY IT UP FRONT. >> THEY MIGHT LET US CHANGE A DATE. BUT THEY MIGHT NOT.

>> MAYOR RENO: OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: NOT TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS BY THE WAY.

>> NO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD JUST FOR THE CLARIFICATION, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

I WOULD SAY THIS. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE CHAMBER BUT I WOULD CONSIDER THE VOTES SEPARATE.

REMEMBER, THIS FIRST VOTE IS SCP.

IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THE HOT FUND THEY MAY STILL FIND AND HAVE THE EVENT. I WOULD HATE TO DENY THE SCP BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT TO DENY THE FUNDING.

WHILE THEY ARE PERTINENT QUESTIONS TO BE ASKING NOW, WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT --

>> MAYOR RENO: THEY ARE SEPARATE VOTES.

>> SEPARATE VOTES. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU.

NOT TRYING TO COMBINE THEM. JUST IN WALTER WAS -- GENTLEMEN,

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> MY ONLY COMMENT IS GOING TO BE I BELIEVE EVERY CITIZEN HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE A CHOICE FOR THEMSELVES. I DON'T SEE ME VOTING TO CANCEL THIS IN THE FUTURE. OTHER ONE WAS A QUESTION.

ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THE SIGNAGE FOR WHERE WASHING IS AND

THE MASK UP AND ALL THAT? >> WE'LL HAVE, WHERE THE CITY IS PUTTING THE BARRICADES WE'LL HAVE SIGNS THERE.

THAT GIVE THE THREE, RULES ON THE BACK.

>> FLIP YOUR HANDY DANDY MAP AROUND.

YOU WILL SEE THE VERBIAGE. >> SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS AT WHAT YOU CALL THE ENTRANCES TO THE EVENT.

THEN PROBABLY IN OTHER PLACES WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT GATHER; SUCH AS, THE TENT WHERE WE SELL TICKETS.

IN THE FOOD AREA. JUST REMINDERS OF --

>> WE HAVE, WE HAVE SERVICES ON THE COMMITTEE TO HELP US DETERMINE WHERE WOULD BE BEST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE.

S SAYTANT CHIEF BROWN ADVISED ME WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ON CHECKLIST ON THE SHUTTLES. HAVE THE MASKS ON THE SHUTTLE AND REMOTE PARKING AREAS. WE ARE WORKING REALLY HARD AND DILIGENTLY TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE VISIBLE.

EASY TO SEE. >> LIKE I SAID, EACH CITIZEN CAN MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE. I'M EXCITED FOR IT.

>> I SEE THE BACK HERE. IT SAYS MASK REQUIRED.

ARE MASKS REQUIRED TO ENTER THE EVENT?

>> WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE WANT TO SAY WE REALLY WANT YOU TO WEAR A MASK.

OF COURSE, WHILE YOU ARE NOT EATING AND DRINKING.

WE CAN ONLY GO AS FAR AS THE ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED BY THE GOVERNOR AND THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

BUT WE DO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE MASKS TO KEEP EVERYTHING SAFE AND MAKE OTHERS FEEL SAFE SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE WITHOUT

[02:20:01]

ANXIETY. >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

WE CREATED THIS FOR THE JULY VERSION OF THIS FESTIVAL THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. MASK WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED AT THAT EVENT. IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION NOW.

>> SO THAT IS MY QUESTION. CITY HALL AS A SIGN ON THE FRONT DOOR THAT SAYS MASKS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED.

I THINK IS WHAT IT SAYS. I'M NOT MASK CRAZY.

YOU KNOW, LIKE CLARK SAID EACH RESIDENT SHOULD MAKE THEIR OWN DEAL. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT CONFLICTING

WITH ANY -- >> WE WILL PROBABLY CHANGE IT.

>> THIS IS A CHAMBER EVENT. WE'LL LET THE CHAMBER MAKE THAT

DECISION. >> I KNOW.

I JUST HATE TO -- UNLESS IT'S REQUIRED BY SOMETHING ELSE, OF YOUR HIGHER POWER, OR HIGHER AUTHORITY THAT YOU ARE ADHERING TO I HATE TO ARBITRARILY SAY TO CROSS THIS FENCE LINE YOU NEED A

MASK ON. >> MAYOR RENO: THE CHAMBER WOULD BE ANALOGOUS TO A BUSINESS OWNER.

THEY CAN SET THEIR -- OKAY. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I'M NOT -- I DON'T WANT TO ARBITRARILY SAY -- WALKING THE STREET OF DOWNTOWN, FOUR OUT OF THE -- SIX OUT OF THE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK BUT NOW TO WALK THE STREET YOU HAVE TO WEAR A MASK.

>> WE HAVE TAKEN HANDS OFF APPROACH TO MASKS.

THEY WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS. >> MAYOR RENO: I BELIEVE WE ARE ABOUT READY TO VOTE THAT THE COUNCIL IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF

THE CHAMBER. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: WITH THAT I TAKE A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION AND SECOND.

ITEM PASSES 7-0. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.

>> WE ARE, TOO. >> MAYOR RENO: IT'S BEEN TOO LONG. THANK YOU.

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ARTS FESTIVAL. >> THANK YOU.

TYPICALLY THE CHAMBER REQUESTS THE MARKETING EXPENSES.

SO THE $3,500 IS A TYPICAL EXPENSE THAT THE CITY COVERED IN THE PAST. GIVEN THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF COVID ON THE CHAMBER AND THE EVENTS THAT WERE CANCELED LAST YEAR, THEY WERE ASKING OUR HELP WITH THIS, THE OTHER FUNDING WE TYPICALLY HAVE NOT BEEN REQUESTS REQUESTED IN THE PAST.

$24,354 HAS NOT TYPICALLY BEEN REQUESTED IN THE PAST.

BUT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF THE HOT FUNDS.

HOTEL/MOTEL FUNDS HAVE SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND IT MEETS THE GUIDELINES SO IT IS WITHIN OUR RIGHT TO SPEND THE HOTEL MONEY ON THIS EVENT. SO FOR A TOTAL OF THE $27,905 APPROXIMATELY, AND THE BALANCE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE FUND IS A LITTLE OVER $155,000. THE CHAMBER APPROACHED THE MAYOR AND I THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE BACK OUT INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU ARE RIGHT.

THE INDIVIDUALS WILL MAKE THAT CHOICE.

IF THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THEY WON'T COME TO THE EVENT.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO HAVE EVENTS AND GET THINGS BACK STARTED IN A SAFE MANNER. AGAIN, THE MASK, THAT IS AN INDIVIDUAL DECISION. EXCEPT FOR WHERE IT MAY CONFLICT WITH THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS. WITH THAT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BUT IT MEETS GUIDELINES AND WE HAVE THE

FUNDING AVAILABLE. >> MAKE A MOTION.

>> TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION AND SECOND.

PASSES 7-0. ITEM 2021-073, CONSIDER AND ACT

[2021-073 ]

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GIVEN THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF THE COVID ON THE HOTEL, THEY HAVE ASKED ASKEC FOR FORBEARANCE.

THE AMOUNT OF I THINK IT WAS THE $21,000 GIVE OR TAKE, WILL GO AND BE ADDED ON TO BACK END OF THE NOTE.

[02:25:03]

WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> IS THIS THE SECOND OR THE THIRD FORBEARANCE?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S AT LEAST THE SECOND.

IT MIGHT BE THE THIRD. IS THEY ARE JUST MAKING

PRINCIPLE ONLY? >> IT'S INTEREST ONLY NOW WITH THE 2%. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE THE PRINCIPAL PAYMENT. THERE -- PRINCIPLE PAYMENT.

SO IT IS ADDED TO THE LOAN. THEY HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME CONSIDERATION FROM THE BANK ALSO.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS IS NOT OUTSIDE THE LINE OF WHAT C&B DOING FOR THEM. IN THE MEETING AS THE LIAISON FOR THAT BOARD AND I THINK THAT THE HOTEL DESIRE TO BE A GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNER. THEY ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF COVID. THE DESIRE IS TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND THIS WILL HELP THEM TO DO

SO. >> WORTH POINTING OUT FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW OBVIOUSLY THE MCDC HAS A SECOND LIEN POSITION ON THE PROPERTY SO THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY CONTINUING. THEY ARE A PARTNER IN THIS

HOTEL. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU, CHRIS. ITEM 2021-074, CONSIDER AND ACT

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL.

I WANT TO COME FORWARD SO THAT THIS IS A SALE AT THE BUSINESS PARK. ONE THING TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD A PURCHASE AND A SALE AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR THE 47 ACRES WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE PURPLE AREA.

THAT SALE DID NOT CLOSE. THE BOARD HAS PULLED BACK ALL INCENTIVES AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT.

WHAT WE ARE COMING FORWARD WITH TODAY IS A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE SOLD. IT'S ROUGHLY THREE ACRES OF THE USABLE LAND TO BE USED AND PURCHASED FOR A TEMPORARY BATCH PLAN. THE BOARD HAS DESIRE TO SELL THE PROPERTY RATHER THAN LEASING IT OR HOLDING ON TO IT LONG-TERM.

IN PART, THIS PROPERTY IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

IN THE GREEN PRAIRIE E.T.J. SO, WE HAVE PRESENTED AN AGREEMENT WHERE THEY WOULD PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FOR $250,000. THAT MONEY WOULD THEN GO TOWARD REPAYING THE NOTE WE HAVE ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS PROPERTY HAS QUICK CLOSE SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE ROUGHLY BY A WEEK FROM TODAY. THE BOARD DID MEET.

AND THEY APPROVED THIS 7-0. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE

ON THE AGREEMENT? >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHY DID THEY DECIDE TO SELL IT AND NOT LEASE IT?

>> YOU KNOW REALLY IN PART BECAUSE IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. KNOWING THAT IT WAS, IT WILL BE IMMEDIATELY BE USED AS A BATCH PLANT.

THEY WANTED THE QUICKEST, EASIEST WAY TO SEPARATE THEMSELVES FROM THE PROPERTY. OPPOSED TO HOLDING IT AND WHAT HAPPENS WHILE ANOTHER USER HAS ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY AND

FURTHER SELL IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU PREVIOUSLY HAND A CONTRACT ON LOT "B" AND LOT "A" AND YOU SAID IT FELL THROUGH. IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

DO YOU THINK IT WOULD IN ANY WAY HINDER POTENTIALLY ANOTHER BUYER

COME IN AND BUYING ALL LOT "A"? >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE LOOKED AT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT LOT 1A IS FULLY USABLE FOR FUTURE USER. THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY REALLY WOULD BE USED FOR THE ADDITIONAL TRUCK STORAGE.

DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS WE WORK WITH, WITH THE ENGINEER.

WE DON'T BELIEVE WE LOSE MORE THAN THE VALUE WE GET BY

SELLING. >> WHAT ACREAGE IS LEFT FOR LOT

"A"? >> A LITTLE OVER 15 ACRES SO THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE 250,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY.

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>> MAYOR RENO: THERE IS NO DOWN HERE OF THE 10 ACRES, ONLY THREE USABLE. IT'S MOSTLY NOT IN MIDLOTHIAN.

YOU HAVE THE FLOODPLAIN THERE. THE RENT FOR THE BATCH FACILITY CONCERN ABOUT CONTAMINATION AND THE CONDITION OF THE SOIL AFTERWARDS? IT DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING THAT IS

IN WORK. >> YEAH.

>> MAYOR RENO: BASICALLY ALL THE OPTIONS ARE STILL OPEN.

>> IT'S UNUSUAL PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE.

>> AND WE CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE BUYER.

IT'S POSSIBLE THEY COULD PURCHASE THE PROPERTY OR IF WE SOLD IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE, WE BELIEVE IT WOULDN'T IMPACT OTHER

SALES. >> COUNCILMEMBER: IT'S PROBABLY USED TO BUILD EVERYTHING OUT THERE.

>> CORRECT. >> MAYOR RENO: THEY HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB -- WE ARE IN A GREAT POSITION GOING FORWARD.

THIS DOESN'T HINDER ANY OF THOSE.

HE GIVES SOME LEVERAGE. MAYBE.

>> SURE. >> MAYOR RENO: SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK Y'ALL.

[Executive Session]

SECTION 551.072, REAL ESTATE: DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY -- TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY. SOUTH WALNUT GROVE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. SECTION 551.072, REAL: DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY -- TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.

MCALPIN

>> MAYOR RENO: 9:02. THE CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION. WE HAVE ONE MOTION TO MAKE.

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>> I MOVE THAT THE CITY MANAGER BE AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STONE GATE CHURCH TO PURCHASE A 1.325-ACRE TRACT OF LAND FOR STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY.

AND TWO, A .272 ACRE TRACT OF LAND FOR PERMANENT DRAINAGE AND THE UTILITY EASEMENT BOTH IN THE BENJAMIN F. WITHERSPOON SURVEY ABSTRACT 1180. AND THE JOHN EARLY SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 343. CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS. AND A .3024-ACRE TRACT OF LAND FOR THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN THE BENJAMIN F. WITHERSPOON SURVEY ABSTRACT 1180.

CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, CONSIDERATION OF A PURCHASE PRICE OF THE $73,618.75.

IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SOUTH WALNUT GROVE ROAD PROJECT, PLUS THE PAYMENT OF ALL RELATED CLOSING COST. THE CITY MANAGER IS FURTHER AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY SUCH THAT ADDITIONAL CLOSING DOCUMENTS MAY BE REQUIRED WITH SUCH AN AGREEMENT AND THE TITLE COMPANY AS NECESSARY TO CLOSE THIS

TRANSACTION. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO CITY MANAGE A DEAL WITH THE SOUTH GATE CHURCH AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 7-0. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?

>> SO MOVED. >> MAYOR RENO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

WE STAND ADJOURNED AT 9:04. WE CAME BACK IN SESSION AT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.