Mar 23, 2021 City Council

[Call to Order, Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance and the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution.]

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>> MAYOR RENO: GOOD EVENING. IT'S 6:00 P.M.

MARCH 23. I CALL THIS SESSION OF THE MIDLOTHIAN CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN, IF YOU LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND

PLEDGES. >> COMMISSIONER CAVES: PRAY

PLEDGE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: PRAY WITH ME. I PRAY THAT YOU ARE WITH US AS WE ATTEMPT TO MAKE DECISIONS TO REFLECT WHAT WOULD WOULD HAVE FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR THE A PARENT BLESSINGS ON THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY AS WE NAVIGATE THE INTERESTING TIMES IN OUR HISTORY.

I PRAY THAT YOU ARE WITH EVERY FAMILY DEALING WITH LOSS AND HURTING AS THE MASS SHOOTINGS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

IN BOULDER, COLORADO, ATLANTA, GEORGIA.

THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH ALL THE FAMILIES AS THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE UNIMAGINABLE. LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO POUR YOUR BLESSINGS OUT ON THE COMMUNITY.

I PRAY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS, THE POLICE, THE FIRE, OUR PARAMEDICS AND I PRAY YOU WOULD BE WITH THEM.

I PRAY TONIGHT THIS TUESDAY EVENING WOULD BE A GOOD NIGHT FOR MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVICE THE COMMUNITY SO WELL.

LORD, WITH US. GUIDE US IN YOUR NAME AND PRAY.

AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ITEM 2021-129, RECEIVE QUARTERL

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-- >> MAYOR RENO: SO OUR FIRST REGULAR AGENDA ITEM IS 2021-129. RECEIVE QUARTERLY BOARD LIAISON REPORTS. I WILL START WITH THE 4A BOARD.

IN FEBRUARY, DR. WAYNE SHEFFIELD STEPPED DOWN TO BE REPLACED BY DAVIDHURST. I WOULD SAY THAT THE 4A BOARD IS EXCELLENT. WE HAVE HAD NEW MEMBERS THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO UPDATE THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT'S CALLED A FIVE-YEAR FOCUS ON PROJECTS.

THE NAME IMPLIES THAT M.E.D. IS FOCUSED TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS AUTHORIZED FOR TYPE "A" CORPORATIONS.

CURRENTLY, THE BUSINESS PARK IS 62% FULL.

AND AFTER TONIGHT IT MAY BE 100% FULL.

THE PROSPECTS LATER ON TODAY THERE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION. BUT YOU'LL WAIT UNTIL KYLE PRESENTS THAT LATER. 4B IS JUSTIN COFFMAN.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: I WILL BRING YOU A QUICK UPDATE.

4B HAS BEEN ACTIVE RECENTLY AND LOOKING FOR CREATE WAYS TO APPLY FUNDING TO THE COMMUNITY BETTERMENT PROJECTS.

IT'S THE WILL OF THE CURRENT BOARD TO HAVE A FOCUS ON PARKS PROJECTS. SOMETHING I FIND INTERESTING AND IT'S BEING DEVELOPED WITHIN THE CITY STAFF AND THE 4B BOARD, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO ENCAPSULATE THE EXPENSES OF THE PARKS PROJECTS BUT ALSO TO INCLUDE MAINTENANCE AND THE OPERATIONS PORTION OF THEM AS WELL FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. SO FIND A WAY FOR 4B TO FUND NOT ONLY APPLYING OR CREATING THE FACILITY OR THE PROJECT BUT ALSO COVER MINUTES AND THE OPERATIONS COST AS WELL.

THAT IS A CREATIVE THOUGHT THAT IS STILL FLESHED OUT AND DETERMINED ON HOW TO DO THAT AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THE LAST THING IS THE 4B LOOKING TO CREATE A BETTER WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARKS BOARD TO HOPEFULLY IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE PARKS BOARD'S VISION FOR THE PARK SYSTEM IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY ARE HOPING TO ATTACK IS THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN GOING BEFORE THE BOARD THIS THURSDAY EVENING FOR ANY INTERESTED.

>> MAYOR RENO: EXCELLENT. THE PARKS COMMITTEE IS

COUNCILMAN HARTSON. >> COUNCILMAN HARTSON: WHAT JUSTIN STATED PART OF WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON WORKING WITH THE 4B BOARD. IT'S AN INTERESTING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO. PARK THRIVES WHEN THE MCDC BOARD CAN FINANCE A LOT OF THEIR PROJECTS.

WE HAVE RECENTLY PRIORITIZED A LOT OF THE UPKEEP OR RENOVATIONS OF THE PARKS AND PROJECTS LIKE SOFTBALL FIELDS, WOMEN'S

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ESPECIALLY THE RESTROOMS AND THE LIGHTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF THE 4B BOARD.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. AIRPORT BOARD, CLARK WICKLIFFE.

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: THANK YOU.

I WAS JUST PUT ON THE BOARD LAST MONTH SO I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN UPDATE FOR YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS I DID SIT IN THE AIRPORT BOARD MEETING THIS PAST WEEK. IT WEDNESDAY A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. IT WAS QUITE INFORMATIVE.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING.

THERE WAS A RENAME REQUEST THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

HANGAR SPRINKLING WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

I THINK YOU ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BEING CONCERNED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE AIRPORT.

THAT IS ALWAYS A BIG FACTOR. WE WILL SEE WHERE IT GOES BUT THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

IT WAS MY FIRST AIRPORT BOARD MEETING AND I SHOWED UP

UNANNOUNCED. >> MAYOR RENO: P&Z, COUNCILMAN

TED MILLER? >> COUNCILMAN MILLER: YES.

WHAT I'M PROUD OF IS WE ARE GOING AHEAD AND HAVING THE WORKSHOPS BEFORE A ONE-HOUR WORKSHOP BEFORE EVERY MEETING.

SERVING THEM LUNCH TO MAKE THEM, MAKE THEM KNOW WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THEM SPENDING THEIR TIME ON THERE.

THIS IS THE THIRD CHAIR I HAVE BEEN THROUGH.

MAURICE OSBORN. HE HAD BIG SHOES TO FIELD WITH DAN AND ROSS WEAVER BEFORE THAT. HE SAT IN THE MIDDLE CHAIR BEFORE. HE WAS USED TO SITTING IN THE MIDDLE AND RUNNING A REAL GOOD MEETING.

WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF REAL GOOD INTERACTION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF EDUCATION BEHIND THE GROUP NOW.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS COMING UP AND ALMOST TOO MANY TO TALK ABOUT THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN AT THIS DESK YET.

BUT IT'S COMING. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMAN MILLER: THANK

YOU, SIR. >> MAYOR RENO: U.A.B., WAYNE?

>> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: DUE TO COVID, WE HAVE NOT HAD MEETINGS BUT WE HAVE ONE SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK.

>> MAYOR RENO: OKAY. >> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: WE'VE GOT A GOOD SIZE PACKAGE TO WORK ON THERE.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

OUR COMMITTEES ARE EXCELLENT. WE HAVE HAD THE LAST TWO TIMES, THE APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY UP.

AS THE QUALITY OF THE APPLICANTS SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE PARTICIPATION BY THE CITIZENS.

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COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOP I CANNOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

BUT PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT WE WILL NOT RESPOND TO IT.

BUT THE APPROPRIATE PERSON FROM STAFF WILL TAKE THE INFORMATION.

AT THIS TIME, I HAVE THREE NAMES.

GET MY PAPERS IN ORDER. THE FIRST PERSON IF YOU ARE HERE JANE CRAFT. IS JANE CRAFT HERE? HER COMMENTS WILL BE READ IN TO THE RECORD.

A JEFF BUCKHAM. ARE YOU HERE, JEFF? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. I'LL GIVE YOU A ONE-MINUTE WARNING AND PLEASE MAKE YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THANK YOU. I'M JEFF BUCKHAM, CURRENT RESIDENT IN MIDLOTHIAN. 606 CORNELIUS COURT AND HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE R.P.D., THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT NOW THE MINIMUM ACREAGE IS THREE ACRES TO QUALIFY.

I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER LOWERING IT TO TWO ACRES. I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW OUR CITY TO DEVELOP SOME OF THE SMALLER LOTS AROUND THE CITY.

IN THESE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS THERE IS A LOT OF STRAIGHT ZONING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU'D HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE AREAS. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: JEFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IS MATT PAULDIN HERE? MATT? OKAY.

THAT IS ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO REGISTERED UNDER CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. THE CONSENT AGENDA, ALL MATTERS

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IF ANY DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED 7-0.

WE GO TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. OPEN ITEM 2021-137, CONTINUE A

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THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON U.S. HIGHWAY 67 AND APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET OF WEST OVERLOOK DRIVE.

TRENT? >> TRENTON: THANK YOU.

IN ACCORDANCE TO 2.74 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, IT DOES REQUIRE ANY SELF-STORAGE WAREHOUSE TO OBTAIN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED, BASE ZONING IS COMMUNITY REALL THE DISTRICT.

COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT CURRENTLY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SELF-STORAGE THROUGH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

FOR THAT REASON THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR SELF-STORAGE, RETAIL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. THE SITE IS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF TRACTOR SUPPLY. IT'S LOCATED IN THE REGIONAL MODULE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT'S DESIGNED TO CREATE URBAN STYLE MULTIUSE DEVELOPMENT AND FOSTERS A WORKING COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CITY.

WHERE RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY URBAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, MICKING, WORKING, SHOPPING, ENTERTAINMENT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

ADDITIONALLY AS PART OF THE REQUEST, AS PART OF THE OVERALL REQUEST YOU HAVE A SEPARATE CASE TONIGHT UNDER THE REGULAR AGENDA, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A SEPTIC WAIVER TO ALLOW FOR ON-SITE SANITARY SEWER. ONCE AGAIN, YOU WILL SEE THAT AS PART OF THE REQUEST LATER TONIGHT.

WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING RATIOS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE IT DOES REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING FOR WAREHOUSE, OFFICE, RETAIL.

WHEN YOU BREAK UP THE BUILDINGS, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WOULD BE 79 LOTS THAT YOU SEE HERE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A VARIANT TO HAVE 30 SPACES.

THEY WILL EXPLAIN MORE IN THE PREPARATION.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THEY ARE CITING IS DUE TO THE LANES IN BETWEEN THE STORAGE UNITS BEING WIDER THAN 24 FEET WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR A FIRE LANE. IT WOULD GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES IN THERE. AS STAFF WENT THROUGH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WE DO FEEL THAT THE FOUR PER 300 SQUARE FEET FOR OFFICE WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

HOWEVER THE 21 PER 3,000 SQUARE FEET FOR STORAGE WE WOULD UNDERSTAND DECREASING THAT. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF LOOKING THROUGH THE PARKING STANDARDS AND FIGURING OUT WHICH ONES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED OR AMENDED AND HOPEFULLY THE TEXT MEMO WILL COME BEFORE YOU AT A LATER PERIOD IN TIME.

THE BUILDING IS 7,250 SQUARE FEET OF THE OFFICE/RETAIL SPACE AND CONTAINS 112,000 SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE SPACE.

THAT IS HOW WE DERIVE THE NUMBERS.

THE NUMBERS HERE DIVVY UP THE BUILDINGS.

THERE ARE FOUR BUILDINGS ON SITE.

A, B, C, D. IT SHOWS THE USES THAT ARE LOCATED IN WHICH BUILDING. THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY NONRESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, U.S. 67 AND THE INTERCHANGE IS TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

I WANT TO NOTE EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY BEHIND IT TO THE EAST IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY 2 DISTRICT, A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY CHANGE IN THIS AREA. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED USE AND THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY

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ALL RIGHT. THIS PROJECT WILL BE BROKEN TO VARIOUS PHASES. THE REASON WHY IT IS PHASED OUT IS WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHEN THEY WERE DEVELOPING THIS, THAT THEY WOULD BE DEVELOPING THE OFFICE RETAIL AT THE SAME TIME AS THE WAREHOUSE. WE DIDN'T WANT ALL THE WAREHOUSE TO BE CONSTRUCT AND WE NEVER SEE THE OFFICE RETAIL.

PART OF THE PHASING WHERE THE OFFICE RETAIL IS LOCATED IN THIS BUILDING HERE, BUILDING "D." THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE FIRST PHASE TO BE COMPLETED. BUILDING "A" RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE WAREHOUSE. RIGHT HERE IS THE LEASING OFFICE. BUILDINGS "B" AND I BELIEVE "C" ARE PERMITTED TO BE IN THE NEXT PHASE IF THEY SO CHOOSE.

WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT WE WENT BACK AND FORTH DUE TO THIS BEING A MAJOR CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CITY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ESPECIALLY THE LANDSCAPING. WE WORKED WITH THEM TO GET ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN THIS AREA.

ESPECIALLY BEING ON THE CORRIDOR.

TRAFFIC COMES BY THIS. AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH, THAT IS WHERE YOU GET TO OFF-RAMP FROM 67 ON TO EAST MAIN STREET.

THAT GOES TO THE DOWNTOWN. WITH THE DOWNTOWN, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN PATHS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM OUT-OF-TOWN COME TO REACH DOWNTOWN.

WE HAVE INVESTED TIME IN REDEVELOPING THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S GOING -- IT CONSISTS OF VARIOUS DEVELOPMENTS, LIKE UP/DUNE LIGHTS AND WAINSCOTS. ACCORDING TO THE STATE LEGISLATION APPROVED TWO YEARS AGO WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT REGULATE ANY OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT YOU SEE ON HERE.

WE CAN ONLY REGULATE THE NONBUILDING MATERIALS.

SUCH AS, ELEMENT, OFFSET AND THE BUILDING ROOF LINES.

ANY CORNICES OR CANOPIES. WE CAN REGULATE HOW IT LOOKS BUT NOT THE BUILDING MATERIAL. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE DISCLAIMER HERE.

BOTH BUILDINGS IN THE FRONT WILL MEET OUR MINIMUM ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS AS DICTATED IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.

THE BUILDING IS LOCATED IN THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE.

IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY WILL NOT -- THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY LACKS VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION.

ONE REASON IS THEY WILL BE BLOCKED FROM U.S. HIGHWAY 67 VISIBILITY. WANT TO REITERATE -- THESE, THE ELEVATIONS YOU SAW. THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF THE MATERIALS THEY ARE PROPOSING.

ONCE AGAIN WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT.

WHEN YOU DO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE THE MATERIALS ARE NOT

WRITTEN WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. >> I THOUGHT WITH A PLANNED

DEVELOPMENT WE COULD. >> TRENTON: WE ARE STILL NOT ABLE REGULATE. IT GOES BACK TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED, WE CAN'T REGULATE IT.

>> CORRECT. >> TRENTON: WHEN THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON MARCH 4, IT WAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE PARKING SPACES BE PROVIDED ON SITE.

SO IT WOULD BE 41 SPACES. GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PARKING PARAMETER, THEY THOUGHT 79 WHICH IS REGULATED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS TOO MUCH AND STAFF AGREED.

WE WENT TO 53. THEY STILL THOUGHT IT WAS TOO MUCH. BUT 30 WAS TOO LITTLE SO THAT IS WHERE THEY CAME UP WITH THE 41 NUMBER.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED REQUEST AND WE HAVE CONCERNS IT'S NOT CON SUS TENT WITH THE REGIONAL MODULE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS BEING ONE OF THE MAIN CORRIDOR WE IDEALLY SEE THIS AS A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE/RETAIL SPACE AND NOT WAREHOUSE. I CAN -- WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES AND ZERO CAME BACK FROM FAVOR AND ZERO COME BACK IN OPPOSITION. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT

THIS TIME. >> MAYOR RENO: HOW MANY

STORAGE UNITS ARE THERE? >> TRENTON: THE TOTAL NUMBER, I'LL LEAVE TO THE APPLICANT BUT 112,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO HOW THEY BREAK IT UP, I BELIEVE SOME OF THE UNITS YOU CAN BREAK UP AND CHANGE. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL

NUMBER OF THE UNITS. >> MAYOR RENO: SO MY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE STORAGE UNITS AND HOW MANY HAVE DOORS TO OPEN TO THE OUTSIDE AND HOW MANY -- SO WHEN YOU GET UP HERE, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: CAN YOU CIRCLE FOR ME WHICH PARTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT ARE GOING TO BE OFFICES AND WHAT THE STAIR

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>> TRENTON: ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE WAREHOUSE BUILDING THAT WILL BE FRONTING 67. THIS IS GOING TO BE ALL CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE UNITS SO THERE WON'T BE DIRECT DOORS ON THIS BUILDING. POINTING TO U.S. 67.

MR. DARRACH'S QUESTION IS RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS ALMOST 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE RETAIL LOCATED IN BUILDING "D." THERE IS AN OFFICE SPACE, LEASING OFFICE FOR THE WAREHOUSE LOCATED HERE ON THE CORNER.

AND THE REST OF "A," THE BACK OF BUILDING "D," "B" AND THE FUTURE BUILDING "C" IS ALL WAREHOUSE SPACE.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO, THAT IS HOW I READ IT, TOO.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS -- >> TRENTON: I HAVE ON THE

SCREEN THE BREAKDOWN. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I'LL PASS FOR THE APPLICANT. WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT.

>> MAYOR RENO: WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

>> TRENTON: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: THE FIRST SPEAKER RACHEL PARHAM. STATE YOUR NAME AND WHO YOU ARE

WITH AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

I'M RACHEL PARHAM WITH THE PARHAM GROUP.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DWIGGINS FAMILY SAM AND TERRY WHO ARE HERE AND THEIR FAMILY. WE ARE LOOKING TO BUILD SELF-STORAGE ON THIS SITE. I KNOW TRENTON HAS PUT TOGETHER A NICE PRESENTATION. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE SITE AND THE REASON WHY WE FOUND THE SITE WE WANT TO SEE OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE SITE AND WHAT IS THE IDEALISTIC -- WE HAVE IDEALS AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT IS REASONABLE TO DO HERE? THIS IS SOUTHERN SITE SELF-STORAGE, NAME BRAND COMING IN THE AREA, FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED. IT STARTS OUT AS A RETAIL CENTER FIRST. WITH THIS PROPERTY, HERE WE GO.

SO THIS PROPERTY WHEN WE FOUND IT, IT WAS OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THE BEST OPTIONS FOR IT. TO BRING IN THE RETAIL HERE, OUR ACCESS TO THE SITE IS LIMITED. WE HAVE TO TURN AND AN EXIT ON HERE ON 67 AND THEN TURN IN HERE.

GO PAST A LIGHT TO GET TO THE SITE.

WHEN YOU LEAVE THE SITE YOU GO PAST A STOP SIGN LITE AND GO TO THE EXIT HERE. SO ACCESSIBILITY WAS DIFFICULT.

IT'S OKAY. IF WE ARE DOING A PRIME RETAIL LOCATION WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO MAXIMIZE THE NET RENTABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WE CAN AFFORD CONSTRUCTION COST FOR WHAT IS REASONABLE WITH THE LAND. WE READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE KNOW THE URBAN DESIGN. WE WANT IT TO BE THE AREA.

WE DECIDE WE WILL LOOK IF THIS IS APPROACHABLE THING TO MAKE URBAN DESIGN LOOK TO IT AND HAVE A RETAIL SECTION AND PROVIDE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE OFFICE SPACES FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK AT HOME, PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMUTERS. THE OFFICE SPACES ARE BETTER BECAUSE NOW WE ARE ADDING INSTEAD OF THEM PURCHASING A RETAIL CENTER AND HAVING TO BE IN A RETAIL SECTION WHERE THEY PAY SO MUCH PER SQUARE FOOT TO DO SO, THAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE, WE HAVE WHITE BOX OFFICES AVAILABLE FOR A BUSINESS CENTER FOR THEM TO APPROACH BUSINESS ON SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COMMUTE TO DALLAS AND THEY CAN KEEP BUSINESS HERE AND RENT THE SPACES. THERE ARE SEVEN OF THOSE IN THERE. BUT I'LL GET TO THAT.

THE LAND AS WE LOOK AT IT NOW, IT'S NOT AN EYESORE.

IT HAS A GREAT HIGHWAY. PRETTY BAD ACCESSIBILITY FOR RETAIL SECTION AND FOR ANY OF THE OFFICE SPACES.

SO OKAY, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO HERE? SELF-STORAGE IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

THE REASON I LIKE THE PROPERTY I DON'T HAVE AN H.O.A. I'M BACKING UP TO SO I CAN HAVE THE UNITS IN THE BACK.

THIS IS THE TOPO OF THE LAND AND THE TWO AERIAL VIEWS.

THIS SHOWS YOU TOPO OF THE LAND. THE HOUSE UP HERE.

WHEN THEY LOOK DOWN THIS IS A BIG TOPOGRAPHY DIFFERENCE.

WHEN THEY LOOK DOWN THEY DON'T SEE THE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK.

THE ONES THAT WILL HAVE THE DOORS THAT YOU CAN OPEN FROM THE OUTSIDE. THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED BUILDING IS ALL DOORS INSIDE. THE BACK BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT CLIMATE CONTROLLED THEY ARE IN THE BACK AND NOBODY CAN SEE THEM. NOT FROM THE HOUSE, NOT FROM THE HILL OR THE TOPOGRAPHY HERE. WE MADE SURE TO SAY IS THIS A PROPERTY TO SHIELD US FROM ANYBODY BEHIND? WE DON'T WANT ANYONE LOOKING IN TO THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY EITHER. THIS IS THE LAND WITH THE TOPO DIFFERENCE CHANGE HERE. WE MARKED EVERY SECTION TO BE SEEN WITH BALLOON EFFECT ANDROID.

WE FLEW THAT AROUND AND SAY WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE PROPERTY? WHERE IS IT VISIBILITY? THESE ARE THE BACK BUILDING SECTION HERE. BUILDING "B," "C" AND "D" WILL ALL BE BACK-FACING THIS DIRECTION SO THERE ARE NO DOORS WILL BE SEEN FROM THE FRONT FACING OF THE PROPERTY OR THE BACK FACING OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE NEXT THING WE TALK ABOUT IS THE FACILITY WE ARE BUILDING. SO A LOT OF CONCERN HAS BEEN

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I CAN GIVE YOU EXAMPLES OF THE FACILITIES WE HAVE BUILT.

AND THEIR RENDERINGS. THIS IS THE RENDERING TURNED IN TO CITY COUNCIL IN BEUTAH, TEXAS.

THIS IS BEXAR COUNTY AND THE BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT.

SO ALL THE MATERIALS NEVER CHANGED.

THIS IS KYLE. THIS IS BEE CREEK NEAR AUSTIN.

WE BUILT WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD BUILD.

THAT IS PART OF OUR POLICY. WE WANT TO BE PART OF THE MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY AND BE A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE AND GOOD NEIGHBORS SO WE DO WHAT WE SAY WE WILL DO.

THE LIGHTING WAS ANOTHER CONCERN.

I THINK IT WAS ADDRESSED. OUR LIGHTING IS DOWNWARD LIGHTING. THIS POLE LIGHTING HERE FROM THE CHICKEN EXPRESS THAT IS OUR NEIGHBOR.

WE HAVE NO POLE LIGHTS ON THE FACILITIES.

THEY ARE ALL DOWN LIGHTS SO THE CANDLE WIDTH FACES DOWN.

IT DOESN'T FACE UP. THE NEIGHBORS WON'T SEE IT.

THEY ARE GOING TO SEE THE TRACTOR SUPPLY IN WALMART AND THE CHURCH BEFORE THEY SEE US, ANY OF THE LIGHTS UP.

WE HAVE LIGHTS IN THE WINDOW FACING OUTWARD TOWARD THE HIGHWAY BUT NOTHING INTERNALLY FACING OUTWARD TOWARD THE HOUSE BEHIND US. THESE WILL BE THE WALL PACKS YOU SEE, DOWNWARD LIGHTS. OF COURSE, OFFICE RETAIL AND THE LIGHTS. THIS IS A SECTION OF THE BUILDING WE HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH IN.

THAT WAS THE SAN ANTONIO BUILDING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

WE ARE BUILDING EXCELLENCE. THIS IS THE IDEA WE WERE GOING FOR WHEN WE FIRST APPROACH PROPERTY.

HOW DO WE MAKE CONSTRUCTION SITE AFFORDABLE? WE HAVE A LOT OF DIRT TO MOVE. WE ARE LOOKING AT A RETAINING WALL COSTING UP TO $1.5 MILLION TO RETAIN THE DIRT BEHIND US AND MAKE THAT EXCAVATION COST. WE DECIDE TO DO THIS.

WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF LUCK AND WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE STORAGE INVOLVED WITH THE RETAIL AND THE OFFICE SPACES.

THIS IS THE PAR SHELL IN NEW BRAUNFELS WE GOT APPROVED AND THIS IS SELF-STORAGE BEHIND IT. YOU CAN SEE THE DOORS ON THIS SIDE BUT THAT IS WHAT THE APPROVALS WERE FOR THE FENCING BUT YOU CAN'T SEE DOORS ON THIS SIDE.

THIS IS ALL THE OFFICE SPACE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN.

RIGHT? IF I HAD THE LUXURY OF THE SITE TO DO THE OFFICE SPACE ON THE SIDES I WOULD HAVE.

BUT HONESTLY, WITH THE ACCESSIBILITY, WHERE THE LAND IS LOCATED WE HAD TO COME UP WITH THIS DESIGN AS THE RETAIL OPTION. IT WOULD ONLY SUPPORT FIVE SPACES OF THE 500 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE OFFICE SPACES AND THEY LEASE CONSTANTLY. WE WILL NEVER BE EMPTY.

IT BRINGS BUSINESSES TO THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDES AN AREA WE DON'T HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE JUST HAVE RETAIL SPACE.

IT WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE TO WORK FROM THEIR HOMES, MEET PEOPLE HERE AND HAVE A BUSINESS CENTER TO GO TO.

IT'S NOT NEEDING TO BE A FULL ON RETAIL SECTION WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO GO. IT WOULD BE WALMART AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE, YOU ARE AT WALMART. YOU CAN'T HAVE THE RETAIL SPACES. THIS IS NOT FOR THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE. THIS IS THE OFFICE SPACES.

THESE ARE THE RETAILS UNDERNEATH THE BUILDINGS WE WILL SEE HERE.

THIS BUILDING IS SELF-STORAGE AND THE RETAIL SPACE UNDERNEATH.

PRETTY, MODERN AND URBAN DESIGN. BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY IS A HUGE THING FOR US. HIGH SCHOOL MASCOT IN KYLE THAT ENDED UP ON THE WALL IN THE OFFICE.

FOR SAFE AND SOUND SELF-STORAGE. WHEN THE MANAGEMENT COMES IN ANY TYPE OF TOWN OR MARKET THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE MARKET.

THAT IS A BIG PART OF THIS. BUETAH WAS DESIGNED BECAUSE IT MATCHES CABELA'S IN FRONT OF IT. WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO BE THE PUBLIC STORAGE, THE BRIGHT ORANGE DOORS OR THE LIME GREEN DOORS THAT RIDICULOUS AT NIGHT OR LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THE TRAILERS PARKED OUT FRONT. WE WANT TO RUN "A" CLASS FACILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED STORAGE.

COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AT 25% AND MILLENNIALS THAT ARE NOW 78% OF THE LEASERS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS COMING IN THE AREA. YOU GREW 72.5% IN EIGHT YEARS.

THAT IS INSANE. I HAVE SEEN HOW MANY DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING IN HERE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD.

MORE HOMES. SELF-STORAGE WORKS WITH THE PEOPLE. NOT JUST ANY TYPE OF THE SELF-STORAGE THAT IS LOWER CLASS PEOPLE.

THESE ARE PEOPLE MOVING IN TO THE COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO UTILIZE IT. WHO WANT TO USE IT FOR -- WE HAVE HOSPITALS THAT WORK WITH IT, TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES USE IT.

WORKING THEIR BUSINESS ON PINTEREST.

THEY USE THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITIES.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FACILITY AVAILABLE FOR GROWING MARKET LIKE YOURSELVES. TO KEEP GOING.

THIS IS THE OFFICE. FIRST CLASS DESIGN.

THE OFFICE MATCHES THE CABELA'S ACROSS THE STREET.

WE ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY DID A BIG SCAVENGER HUNT.

ALL THE MANAGERS ARE PART OF THE CHAMBER.

BUETAH FACILITY HAS BEEN ON THE CHAMBER AND NOW THEY ARE PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY HAVE BEEN ELECTED AND THEY RUN THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY THERE.

IT'S A BIG PART. WE WON BUSINESS OF THE YEAR THERE AND SAN ANTONIO FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

THAT IS A BIG DEAL. >> MAYOR RENO: DO YOU HAVE ANY

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>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YES. I'LL GO TO IT.

WE HAVE A MIXED MATERIAL RATIO. WE TOOK THIS AREA FROM THE AREA ITSELF. LOOKING AT THE WALMART AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THE NEW DEVELOP IN THE THE MAIN STREET.

FRU FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE WAY THAT LOOKS AWESOME.

WE DID A WAINSCOT OF ROCK. THIS IS AN TECHCHURAL FEATURE IN THE URBAN DESIGNS. DALLAS FACILITY I SHOWED YOU.

THIS IS INSULATED PANEL. IT DOES TWO THINGS AT ONCE AND HELPS ME WITH THE I.A.C.C. BUILDING CODE AND IT LOOKS NICE AND HAS AN URBAN COMMUNITY DESIGN.

THE SIGNAGE WORK MEETS CRITERIA. NO PANEL SIGNAGE.

LET ME GO BACK. USING THE WRONG BUTTON.

GIVE YOU A LIST OF THE MATERIALS HERE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE PANEL ON THE BUILD SOMETHING IT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS.

SO THIS IS LIKE A GOOD ATTRACTION TO IT.

KIND OF GIVES IT CUSTOM TO THE GRAY.

WE USE A LOT OF COLORS AND DID A BREAKUP OF THE BUILDING.

IT LOOKS NICE AND IT WILL LOOK AMAZING FROM THE STREET SIDE.

WE USE WINDOWS TO DISPLAY AND WE USE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING SO YOU ARE NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT DOORS.

YOU WON'T SEE THE DOORS BEHIND IT.

THIS FACILITY HERE -- WHERE DID IT GO? OKAY. THIS ONE HERE.

THIS IS "B," "C" AND THE BACK OF "D." "D" IS A SELF-STORAGE IN BACK WITH THE RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE IN THE FRONT. NONE OF THESE DOORS WILL BE SEEN. THIS IS A CLIMATE CONTROL ENTRANCE. SO STILL A CLIMATE CONTROL BUILDING BUT HAS EXTERIOR SELF-STORAGE.

WE MADE SURE NOBODY FROM THE TOP OF THE HILL FACING DOWN FROM THEIR HOUSE CAN SEE US AND DRIVING UP CAN SEE US.

WE ADDED EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS.

WE HAVE EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF THE LANDSCAPING ALREADY ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE GOING TO KEEP AND UTILIZE.

SO A LOT OF THE TREES ARE GOING TO STAY.

SOMETHING THAT IS DEAD LIKE THIS WILL BE REMOVED BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, THE BLOCKAGE WILL BE THERE.

AS FAR AS THE DOORS GO, I CAN COUNT THEM FOR YOU.

OUR UNIT MIX UPWARD AROUND 600-PLUS.

MIXTURE OF 5X5 TO 10X30S. WE DO THIS ON WHAT THE MARKET IS CURRENTLY AND WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR TEN YEARS ON OUR CENSUS DATA.

WE STUDY A DEMOGRAPHIC AND COME IN AND MAKE A UNIT SIZE AND UNIT MIX THAT MATCHES WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC IS GOING TO RENT.

SO IT'S A REAL THOUGHT OUT PLAN. IT REALLY DOES HELP WITH THE RETAIL OFFICE SPACE. THE LAND BECOMES MORE AFFORDABLE, CONSTRUCTION COSTS MORE AMENABLE.

WITH THE SITE, BEING WHERE IT IS ACCESS WISE AND WHERE IT IS BACKED UP TO, IT'S THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR SOMETHING THIS TYPE OF SELF-STORAGE. AS FAR AS PARKING GOES, AND OUR PARKING WE ONLY HAVE THE FIRST LEASING SPACES UP FRONT.

THAT IS THE ONLY PARKING WE HAVE EVER HAD TO HAVE.

THEY ARE AT THE FRONT OF THE LEASING SPACE.

I DON'T HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT ONE BUT WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE.

THAT IS ALL WE HAVE EVER BEEN REQUIRED IN ANY CITY OR COUNTY TO UTILIZE. THE REASON IS SELF-STORAGE IS TEMPORARY LOADING. NOT A FULL-TIME PARKING AREA.

WE HAVE LODDING ENTRANCES IN FRONT OF THE GLASS ENTRANCES.

AND THEN THE FIRE LANE, THEY ARE STAYING OUT OF THE FIRE LANE AND THEY HAVE ROOM TO MOVE AROUND EACH OTHER.

WE ADDED 11, WE AGREED UPON 11 AND WE WILL ADD IT TO THE FRONT OF THE RETAIL IN CASE A BIGGER RETAIL COMES IN THERE, WE CAN TURN THE BIGGER RETAIL SPACE TOEN A OFFICE AREA.

WE'LL DO THAT. SO WE HAVE ADDED MORE PARKING SPOTS FOR THEM. I ALSO DON'T WANT TO HAVE PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THEY CAN PARK ON MY FACILITY AND STAY THERE.

THAT IS NOT WORKING FOR ME. >> MAYOR RENO: RACHEL, DO YOU HAVE MAJOR POINTS YOU WANT TO MAKE BEFORE I LET THE COUNCIL

ASK QUESTIONS? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I THINK THAT IS GOOD. >> MAYOR RENO: COUNCIL, YOU

HAVE QUESTIONS OF RACHEL? >> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE ONE.

EVERYTHING ELSE WE GOT WHAT YOU SHOW PICTURE OF IS MASONRY CONSTRUCTION. YET THIS IS ALL SEAL.

>> NO, SIR. THIS IS INSULATED PANEL, ETHOS PANEL LOOK INSTEAD OF TRUE ETHUS.

THIS IS A ROCK COATING WAINSCOT. THERE IS A STEEL ROOF, THAT YOU WON'T SEE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BUMPOUTS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: BUT IT'S MORE STEEL THAN MASONRY?

>> YES, SIR. PART OF THE URBAN DESIGN LOOK IN DALLAS, AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO IS MORE OF A STEAL, INDUSTRIAL, URBAN LOOK. MILLENNIAL LOOK TO IT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: LOOKING AT THE PICTURES YOU SHOWED OF THE OTHER FACILITIES. THEY WERE MASONRY.

>> THIS BUILDING HERE, GO BACK. IF I CAN GET TO IT.

SO THIS BUILDING HERE IS ABSOLUTELY MASONRY.

WE HAD TO DO 100% MASONRY FOR SAN ANTONIO.

THEY JUST CHANGED THAT LOOK. SO THIS IS BACK IN 2013.

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AROUND IT. >> MAYOR RENO: WHAT IS THIS?

>> BUETAH, TEXAS. SOUTH OF AUSTIN.

ENGULFED BY AUSTIN, AS THEY WOULD SAY.

KYLE, WAINSCOT OF ROCK. SMALLER BUILDING.

THIS WILL HAVE THE SAME FEATURE. YOU HAVE A STEEL, MIXED WAINSCOT OF ROCK. THIS IS EFOS PANEL WITH A WANES COAT OF THE ROCK. THIS IS THE STEEL PANELING ALONG

THE SIDE HERE. >> MAYOR RENO: YOU SAID YOU HAD 600 UNITS. HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE DOORS

THAT FACE, OPEN TO THE OUTSIDE? >> SO NONE OF THE DOORS WILL OPEN TO THE HIGHWAY. THEY WILL ALL OPEN INTERNALLY.

ARE YOU ASKING -- >> MAYOR RENO: WELL, YOUR BUILDINGS THERE. YOU HAD DOORS THAT OPEN.

>> SO THESE DOORS HERE? >> MAYOR RENO: THOSE OPEN TO

THE OUTSIDE. >> YES.

YES, SIR. THEY ARE NON-CLIMATE.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

>> MAYOR RENO: HOW MANY ARE CLIMATE --

>> ALL OF THE INTERIOR, THE MAJORITY OF THE FACILITY, ABOUT 80%, ALMOST 85% IS CLIMATE CONTROLLED.

THE REST OF IT IS GOING TO BE ANY OF THE UNITS YOU SEE, ON THOSE TWO BIG BUILDINGS, THE BUILDINGS WE LOOKED ON THE SITE PLAN, ALL OF THIS IS INTERIOR CLIMATE CONTROL.

ANY EXTERIOR, THEY ARE SMALLER EXTERIOR NON-CLIMATE CONTROL UNITS. VERY LITTLE OF THOSE.

TALKING LIKE LESS THAN 100. >> MAYOR RENO: THE OFFICE SPACE, WHO IS YOUR TYPICAL RENTERS?

>> THE TYPICAL RENTERS END UP BEING LEARNING CENTERS, THEY END UP BEING TECHNOLOGY, I.T. COMPANIES.

A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT NEED TO BE THERE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK FROM BIG OFFICES IN AUSTIN OR SAN ANTONIO, THEY WILL USE THE OFFICE SPACE IN NEW BRAUNFELS TO HAVE MEETINGS AND DO THE WORK FROM HOME.

A LOT OF THEM ARE MOTHERS THAT WORK FROM HOME AND THEY NEED A MEETING SPACE TO GO TO. WE HAVE HAD A DANCE STUDIO AT ONE POINT. A LOT OF THE PEOPLE UP HERE WE HAVE HAD BEFORE. WE HAVE HAD INSURANCE AND PET GROOMING AND WE'VE HAD A PET TEACHING FACILITY.

A LOT OF BOUTIQUES. TAX EXPERTS.

PLUMBERS. WE HAVE HAD A LOT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> YOUR LIGHTS, YOUR ON STORAGE

LIGHTS 24/7? >> NO.

WHEN THEY COME ON, IT'S A WALL PACK THAT HAS A PHOTO SEN THIS CELL IN IT AND IT KICKS ON AT NIGHT SO WHEN PEOPLE ON THE FACILITY AT NIGHT. YOU WANT IT LIT UP TO SEE

CAMERAS AND WHAT IS ON IT. >> LIGHT UP ALL NIGHT.

>> YES BUT THEY ARE LIGHTUP DOWN.

LIGHTS FATING THE BACK TO SHINE UP THE -- LIGHTS FACING THE BACK

TO SHINE UP. >> MAYOR RENO: THE FRONTAGE

LIGHT, IS THAT ALL -- >> THEY WILL HAVE WALL PACKS ON.

IT MAKES THE RENDERING LOOK WEIRD.

THERE WILL BE WALL PACKS ON HERE THAT WILL COME ON TO SHOWCASE THE PARKING LOT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIGHTS FOR

THAT. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

COUNCIL, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR RACHEL?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: CAN YOU SHOW ME THE ELEVATION, COMING ON 67,

PAST WALMART AND THE CHURCH? >> THIS IS THE ELEVATION.

THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION YOU WILL SEE.

THIS IS THE FRONTAGE. THIS WILL BE THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE. IT WILL BE BLOCKED FROM THE SIDE. RIGHT HERE.

>> OKAY. THAT IS THE FRONT BUILDING,

THOUGH. >> YES.

THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE STORAGE BUILDING.

THEN WHEN YOU PASS THE STORAGE BUILDING, YOU WILL SEE THIS.

THIS WILL BE THE SIDE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT KIND OF ROCK IS IT? YOU USED A TERM FOR THE ROCK,

STONE. >> I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NAME ON THERE. STONE VENEER BUT THIS COLOR TYPE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT STONE THAT IS.

MY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, THEY MATCH THAT.

BUT IT WILL BE A WAINSCOT. WAINSCOT OF STONE.

IT GOES HALFWAY UP THE BUILDING TO GIVE IT DELINEATION AND MAKES IT STAND OUT. THAT IS WHY WE USE THE DIFFERENT COLOR PANELS TO SHOW DELINEATION.

GIVES A COOL URBAN DESIGN FEEL TO IT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BUT I THINK THEY ARE DIRECTED MORE TOWARD STAFF.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WAIT OR CAN I GO AHEAD AND ASK TRENTON?

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: YOU ARE THE APPLICANT, RIGHT?

>> I AM. >> I HAVE A CLARIFICATION BEFORE SHE -- ON YOUR MATERIALS, YOU ARE CALLING THAT ETHOS.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE ETHOS PANEL. >> ON THE MATERIAL INDEX ET SAYS

METAL. >> IT HAS A EFOS LOOK TO IT.

WE PUT THE EFOS LOOKING PANEL UP SO IT SHOWCASES THE SAME COLOR

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THAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH EFOS, THE WATER SEENS SEEPS THH

IT. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

WE DIDN'T ALLOW EFOS EXCEPT FOR ACCENT PIECES.

>> I GUESS I MEAN A MASONRY LOOK.

YEAH. SORRY.

>> WHAT IS EFOS? >> IT LOOKS LIKE A STUCCO.

BUT IT'S NOT. >> PRETTY TOUCH STYROFOAM WITH

STUCCO. >> IF YOU GO TO SAN ANTONIO OR AUSTIN THEY CONSIDER IT 100% MASONRY AND THEY MEAN STUCCO AND ANY OTHER MASONRY. THEY MEAN THAT IN DALLAS, TOO.

THEY CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. >> BEFORE HOUSE BILL 2339 WE REQUIRED TWO LAYER STUCCO AND NOT EFOS BECAUSE OF THE STYROFOAM. WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT ANYMORE.

>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I COULD BE.

BUT DRIVING UP AND DOWN MAIN STREET, THE BODY SHOP THAT TOOK OVER THE FASTENOL, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING, THAT PANEL.

WHAT IS IT CALLED? >> EFOS.

>> IT'S INSULATED PANEL. >> I WATCHED THEM.

IT'S STYROFOAM STUCCO DEAL. >> CAN YOU SHOW ME THE REAR ELEVATION, IF YOU WERE STANDING ON TOP OF THE HILL AT THE SINGLE

FAMILY LOT? >> IF YOU ARE STANDING ON TOP OF THE HILL, THEY SEE THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGS.

THEY WOULDN'T SEE THE DOORS, THEY WOULD JUST SEE THE ROOF ON THIS ONE. YOU DON'T HAVE EXACT --

>> WHY WOULD THEY NOT SEE THE DOORS?

>> WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN, THAT IS WHAT WE DID WITH THE DRONE AND HAD IT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE WE COULD SEE WHAT THEY COULD SEE.

UNLESS THEY WALK TO THE VERY END OF THE HILL TO OUR PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE FENCE STOPS IT, THEN THEY CAN SEE DOORS.

>> BECAUSE THEY'RE UP SO HIGH? >> YEAH.

UP SO HIGH AND LOOKING DOWN THEY CAN'T SEE IT.

I'M MESSING THIS UP. THAT THE TOPO.

THEY ARE WAY UP HERE. SORRY.

I'M TRYING. [LAUGHTER]

>> GO BACK TO THE UNITS, PLEASE. >> MAYOR RENO: IT WAS THIS WAY, RIGHT? YES.

>> MAYOR RENO: NO. THAT.

THOSE ARE BUILT IN "D" YOU SAID? >> YES.

SO THIS IS BUILDING "C," "C" AND "B" WOULD LOOK LIKE.

"D" IS GOING TO BE THE BACK OF THE -- THIS IS WHAT WE BROKE IT UP IN. THE COMMERCIAL USERS WE MADE THE STORAGE EASY. THE BACK OF THIS FACILITY IS MORE CLIMATE CONTROL. BATHROOM SHARED AREA AND MORE CLIMATE CONTROL FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

THAT IS WHERE THE COMMERCIAL USE STORAGE.

THEY WILL STILL HAVE THE EXTERIOR DOORS WE MENTIONED SO IT HAS THIS FACING THE BACK. BUT YOU WON'T SEE THAT EITHER ON

THAT CORNER. >> MAYOR RENO: THOSE ARE JUST

ONE OF THE UNITS? >> YEAH.

IT'S ONE LEVEL. >> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT.

RACHEL, THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE IT.

>> MAYOR RENO: WE MAW CALL YOU BACK.

TRENT, OR WHOEVER. CLARK HAS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK, SIR.

A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. I WAS READING THROUGH THE STUFF IN THE PACKET. I DIDN'T SEE IT SO I MIGHT HAVE SKIPPED IT. DOES THE P.D. LIMIT THE USE OF WHAT THEY CAN DO IN THE OFFICE SPACES?

>> TRENTON: YES AND NO. I SAY THAT IS WEGATE BASE ZONING OF THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CURRENT

ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS NOW. >> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T

FIT THE ZONING USE? >> TRENTON: YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: LOOKING UNDER SECTION C 3 AND D.

THEY CAN'T PARK U-HAUL VEHICLES OUT FRONT.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE VEHICLES AND NONAUTHORRIZED VEHICLES.

>> TRENTON: WE WROTE IT TO PREVENT THE U-HAUL VEHICLES STORED, LARGE TRUCKS OR TRAILERS.

WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT AS PART OF THE STORAGE.

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SIGNAGE BUT ON THE SITE PLAN, I DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN. IS IT POLE SIGN OR MONUMENT

SIGN? >> TRENTON: WE LIMITED TO MONUMENT SIGN. NO POLE SIGN.

WE HAVE MONUMENT SIGN ON THE SITE.

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MAYOR RENO: BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN IN THEIR --

>> TRENTON: NO. IT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN OUR STANDARDS FOR THE SIGN REGULATIONS.

>> MAYOR RENO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

WE HAVE TWO MR. SPEAKERS. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: TRENT, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. MY MATH COULD BE OFF.

BUT IN GENERAL, THIS PROPOSAL THROUGH PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 IS 114,124 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE/WAREHOUSE SPACE.

>> TRENTON: CORRECT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: FOR THE DISPLAY OF THE 6300 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE OR COMMUNITY RETAIL

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SPACE. >> TRENTON: RIGHT.

TAKING OFF THE OFFICE RETAIL, THE OFFICE LEASING SPACE.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: NO. I DID THE MATH.

THE WAY THAT IT ADDED UP, WE ARE LOOKING AT 114,124 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY. I COULD BE OFF 100 FEET OR SO, DON'T HOLD ME TO IT TOO HARD. BUT THAT IS LEASABLE WAREHOUSE

STORAGE SPACE. >> TRENTON: OKAY.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: IN RETURN FOR 6,300 SQUARE FEET OF LEASABLE OFFICE OR RETAIL SPACE WHICH COULD ONLY BE SUBDIVIDED AT A MAXIMUM PER THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENTS TO FIVE SUITES.

IN GENERAL, THEY GET FOUR TO FIVE SUITES.

I'M CONCERNED THAT IS BIG OFFSET.

THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT IT HAS BAD ACCESS AND INGRESS/EGRESS COULD BE DIFFICULT.

YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A STOP SIGN AND OFF THE SIDE OF A HIGHWAY. IT SOUNDS ALL NORMAL TO ME.

BUT MY QUESTION FOR YOU BECAUSE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS. MY QUESTION IS COULD THIS NOT BE, I MEAN DO YOU SEE A REASON WHY THE SITE PLAN COULDN'T INCLUDE 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE? WHY CAN'T ONE OF THE BUILDINGS TURN FROM STORAGE TO OFFICE COMMUNITY RETAIL DOES THE CITY SEE ANY REASONING FOR THAT?

>> TRENTON: I MEAN, RIGHT NOW FROM THE DOCUMENTATION THAT I HAVE RECEIVED, I CAN'T SEE A REASONING EITHER FOR OR AGAINST.

I'M SURE THERE ARE VARIOUS FACTORS THE APPLICANT COULD BRING UP WHY THEY ARE DOING PERCENTAGE OF OFFICE RETAIL VERSUS WAREHOUSE. WE COULD SEE THE WHOLE SITE BEING RETAIL. IT'S MORE DIFFICULT QUESTION.

THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THAT QUESTION.

I WOULD NEED TO REFER BACK TO. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: ARE YOU ASKING COULD IT, WOULD IT BY ZONE BEING ALLOWED?

>> BY ZONING, YEAH -- >> VIA COMMUNITY RETAIL, THE

WHOLE THING COULD BE. >> RIGHT.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TOM WOOD. MR. WOOD, I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU TO THREE MINUTES. OKAY.

>> GOOD LUCK ON THAT. >> TOM WOOD.

I REPRESENT THE OWNERSHIP OF THE SIX ACRES.

WE ARE GOING ON SIX YEARS ON OWNING THAT PROPERTY.

IT'S BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT PROPERTY TO MOVE.

WE ARE THE ONES THAT BROUGHT THE WALMART AND WE BROUGHT THE TRACTOR SUPPLY. WE BROUGHT THE CHASE BANK AND THE STARBUCKS. WE THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GOING GREAT THERE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN THEY OPENED UP THE HIGHWAY 287 BYPASS, THAT IS WHERE THE RETAILERS WANT TO BE. THAT IS WHERE KROGER WENT AND WHERE CHICK-FIL-A, BURGER KING AND WENDY'S.

THEY WANT TO BE THERE BECAUSE THE ACCESS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE ACCESS ALONG 67. INGRESS/EGRESS OFF THE FREEWAY IS PERFECT. YOU HAVE THE CROSS ROADS THAT FEED IN THE PROJECTS. YOU HAVE A NEW HOSPITAL.

IT KILLED THE RETAIL THERE AT 287 WHERE THE WALMART AND THE PROPERTY IS. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY LUCK IN MARKETING THIS PROPERTY WHATSOEVER TO ANY RETAILERS.

BASICALLY BECAUSE THE ACCESS IS POOR THERE.

A ONE-WAY FRONTAGE ROAD. SO I LOOK AT MIDLOTHIAN.

I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN DOING THIS FOR 16 YEARS IN MIDLOTHIAN.

I LOOK AT MIDLOTHIAN AS CHANGED. YOU HAVE THE OLD DOWNTOWN.

THE OLD RETAIL ALONG MAIN STREET.

THEN YOU HAVE THE NEW RETAIL ALONG BUSINESS 287.

OR THE 287 BYPASS. THEN YOU HAVE THIS AREA AROUND HERE WHICH I WOULD CALL A HYBRID.

IT'S REALLY NOT A RETAIL HUB. IT'S REALLY MORE OF A HYBRID OF MANUFACTURING, OFFICE, SOME RETAIL.

DUE TO ITS MORE OF A REGIONAL LOCATION.

THAT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT WILL BE DEVELOPED THERE.

THIS IS A HYBRID. OFFICE COMPONENT, RETAIL COMPONENT, STORAGE COMPONENT. WHILE WE WERE DOING THE WALMART DEAL, WHEN WE CLOSED ON PROPERTY.

>> MAYOR RENO: ONE MINUTE. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THE CITY PUT THAT ESCARPMENT ORDER ON US. WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED.

THE ESCARPMENT ORDER COST US A LOT OF MONEY.

THE DEVELOPMENT COST IS $1-$1.5 MILLION FOR DIRT WORK AND WHATNOT. WE WERE HAMMERED WITH THAT.

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WE PICK UP TRASH AND WE MOW IT. THAT IS ALL WE CAN DO THERE.

I SEE US DOING THAT FOR ANOTHER TEN TO 20 YEARS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU, MR. WOOD. NEXT SPEAKER IS KIM WEINS.

>> HI. 3800 STEEPLECHASE, MIDLOTHIAN.

YOU CAN KEEP ME TO TWO MINUTES PROBABLY HERE.

I KNOW WHERE WE ARE ALL AT. I HAVE BEEN A 25-YEAR RESIDENT OF MIDLOTHIAN. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY GATEWAY AND HIGHWAY FILLED WITH THE NICE HOTEL, RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THIS.

I PROBABLY TRIED TO MARKET YOUR PROPERTY 30 TIMES IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS. HOTELS, RESTAURANTS.

THEY SAY HEY, TAKE ME NEAR WALMART.

WE GET THEM HALFWAY DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY SAY TURN AROUND.

THIS IS NOT A RETAIL CORRIDOR. I KNOW WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT.

I CAN'T EVEN GET HOTELS TO LOOK OVER THERE.

THEY WANT TO BE WHERE THE RESTAURANTS ARE.

WHERE THE ACTION IS AND SO FORTH.

BOTTOM LINE, AS A LOCAL REAL ESTATE PERSON HERE, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND USES FOR THE PROPERTY FOR YEARS.

THIS PROJECT HERE, I FELL IN LOVE WITH BECAUSE IT DOES OFFER THE SELF-STORAGE, WHICH IS NOT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S EXCITING THING TO HAVE THERE BUT THE OFFICE AND RETAIL DEAL.

WHAT I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT THERE IS THE 7,000 SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY OR 6,500 WELL BELOW MARKET.

I AS THE BROKER THAT WILL PROBABLY BE IN CHARGE OF LEASING ALL THAT, I'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO HELP THE LOCAL RESIDENTS HERE THAT WOULD LOVE TO BE IN A RETAIL BUILDING BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD $30 A SQUARE FOOT AT KROGER.

THIS AFTERNOON I HAD A LOCAL INSURANCE AGENT SAID I'M COMING TO MIDLOTHIAN. I NEED SPACE.

IN THE $18 TO $20 FOOT RANGE. MY ONLY HOPE FOR HELPING THIS STATE FARM AGENT IS TO PUT HIM IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

I'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. AND THIS WILL BE A GOOD LOOKING PROJECT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. WE ARE OPEN.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE OPEN SESSION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

CLOSED 7-0. COUNCIL?

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I WANT TO RECAP THE QUOTE FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR LEASABLE STATE IS 63 AS QUOTED ON THEIR DOCUMENTS. THAT PRODUCES FOUR TO FIVE UNITS. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR LEASABLE COMMERCIAL SPACE IN MIDLOTHIAN FOR OFFICES. I GET IT.

IT'S HIGH. I WOULD THINK THAT -- HOLD ON.

SOMEBODY IS WAVING THEIR HAND. IF I'M WRONG, I WANT TO STOP.

>> OKAY. YOU ARE RIGHT.

SO THERE IS 69,000 SQUARE FEET OF NET RENTABLE SELF-STORAGE.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OFFICE SPACE.

>> 6300 SQUARE FEET, 7 SPACES ARE 500 SQUARE FEET FOR THE SEVEN OFFICE SPACES I TALKED ABOUT.

THEN THE REST OF THE RETAIL 2,833 SQUARE FEET.

SO RETAIL IS 2,833 SQUARE FEET. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: AGREED BUT FOR THE CLARIFICATION, THE RETAIL IS YOUR STORE, RIGHT?

>> NO, SIR. SO 6,300 SQUARE FEET IS ACTUAL RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE. THAT CAN BE LEASED OUT.

RIGHT? THE 1050 IS OUR LEASE SPACE.

2,833 SQUARE FEET OF THE 6,300 IS FOR RETAIL.

WHAT WE CONSIDER RETAIL. THEN THERE ARE 500 SQUARE FOOT SPACES. THERE IS SEVEN 500-SQUARE FOOT SPACES FOR THE OFFICE WHITE BOX WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> NO PROBLEM. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO STILL KIND OF ALONG THE SAME LINES THERE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN INDIVIDUAL AT A MAXIMUM OF THE SEVEN INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES TAKING UP WHAT WILL BE HOPEFULLY MORE COST EFFECTIVE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

WHICH DOES IN TURN HELP OUR BUSINESSES.

MY QUESTION IS IF WE CAN FILL THOSE, DAY ONE, WHY CAN'T WE BUILD TEN MORE IN THAT? WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE SO HEAVY SELF-STORAGE, SELF-STORAGE, SELF-STORAGE IF IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR RETAIL? IF IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR THE OTHER USES, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE CAN TURN IT.

WHY NOT MAKE IT MORE SMALL WHITE BOX OFFICES?

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SO THAT IS MY POINT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: TRENSON, I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALSO. OUTSIDE STORAGE, THERE IS NONE?

>> IT'S PROHIBITED IN THE ORDINANCE.

>> NO CARS PARKED TO SIT FOR A WEEK OR MONTH OR YEAR?

>> PROHIBITED IN THE ORDINANCE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: NO CAMPERS?

ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> CORRECT.

>> HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT BUILDING "D" WILL LOOK LIKE? WE ARE BUILDING "A," "B," "C," BUT YOU HAD NO "D."

>> TRENTON: BUILDING "D" IN THE -- BUILDING "C," THIS

BUILDING HERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THE GREEN

SPACE THERE. >> TRENTON: BUILDING "C" WILL LOOK LIKE WITH BUILDING "B" IN ACCORDANCE TO HOW THE ORDINANCE HAS WRITTEN. I WANT TO PUT UP THE CLAUSE WE CAN'T REGULATE THE BUILDING MATERIAL.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> TRENTON: RIGHT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THE PROJECT ITSELF LOOKING AT IT AS A WIN FOR THE CITY, YES. WE HAVE ALL MADE THIS DECISION BEFORE THAT WE LIKE THE PROJECT. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF STORAGE UNITS COMING TO THE CITY.

WE ARE HAVING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DOWN THERE ON THE 663 BEING BUILT. THE PROPERTY THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR THIS EXACT PROJECT IS NEXT TO THE WALGREENS.

I KNOW IT MAY NOT FIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I CAN HEAR HER WHEELS TURNING FROM OVER HERE.

BUT I WOULD GUESS THE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT THAT. I COME FROM WAXAHACHIE YESTERDAY. YOU HAVE THE BRAND NEW NICE, PRETTY STUFF BEING BUILT ON THE NORTHSIDE OF 287.

AND YOU HAVE THE STORAGE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS SITTING ON THE SOUTHSIDE. IT'S A GREAT BIG DIFFERENCE ON WHAT THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE IS TRYING TO DO TO MAKE UP FOR MISTAKES THEY MAY HAVE MADE IN THE PAST YEARS.

I JUST DON'T WANT US TO MAKE THE MISTAKES, THE SAME THING THEY DID OVER THERE. I MEAN HER 22-FOOT BUILDING WITH A 612 PITCH AND ALL THAT WILL LOOK PRETTY.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RIGHT FOR RIGHT THERE.

HAVING THE PROPERTY FOR 20 YEARS OR SIX YEARS AND -- I MEAN WE HAVE ALL BOUGHT SPEC STUFF IN OUR LIFE WE WISH WE WOULDN'T HAVE AND SOLD IT WHEN WE WISH WE HADN'T.

I HAD A '64 FALCON I WISH I HAD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: THAT IS MY OTHER POINT.

IT WAS IDENTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE 67 CORRIDOR IS A LITTLE BIT WEAK IN AESTHETICS AND APPEAL.

THAT IS WHY IT'S ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL BECAUSE I THINK OVER TIME WE CAN TURN THAT. IF WE PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THAT POSITION, I THINK WE ARE JUST PUTTING LESS IDEAL SITUATION BEHIND A BAD SITUATION.

>> MAYOR RENO: ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, WHICH BUILDING HAVE TO BE BUILT AND IN WHAT ORDER?

>> TRENTON: SO, THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT THE FIRST BUILDING THAT HAS TO BE BUILT WOULD BE BUILDING "D." THE RETAIL AND THE OFFICE SPACE COMPONENT.

IN CONJUNCTION BUILDING "A" CAN BE BUILT AND THESE CAN BE AFTER.

IF THIS IS BUILT FIRST, THE REST CAN BE BUILT AS FOLLOWS.

>> MAYOR RENO: IN ANY ORDER. >> TRENTON: THESE FRONT HAVE

TO BE BUILT FIRST. >> MAYOR RENO: BEFORE "C"

AND -- >> TRENTON: BEFORE "B" AND "C" CAN BE BUILT. BUT "D" IS THE FIRST ONE THAT HAS TO BE BUILT. "D," "A," "B" AND "C."

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

I THINK Y'ALL'S PICTURES FROM THE PREVIOUS BUILDS LOOKED GREAT. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS IS AND I LIKE THE CONCEPT. I THINK Y'ALL PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT IN TO IT AND YOU DID A GOOD JOB PRESENTING IT.

BY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THE RENDERINGS OR THE DRAWINGS HERE DON'T LOOK LIKE YOUR OTHER FINISHED PRODUCTS IN OTHER CITIES. I KNOW THAT Y'ALL SAID THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS CITY OR THAT CITY.

I'M NOT SO SURE MIDLOTHIAN IS TRYING TO BE LIKE THOSE CITIES.

I'M A LITTLE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT IS GOING TO LOOK ISN'T EXACTLY PARALLEL WITH THE WAY THE REST OF THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURE LOOKS. I DO LIKE THE CONCEPT.

AGAIN, I THINK Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB.

TRENSON, DID I HEAR THE STAFF RECOMMENDING DENIAL?

>> TRENTON: YES, SIR. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT WAS

THAT FOR? >> TRENTON: IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PROPOSED USE ALONG THE MAIN

CORRIDOR. >> COUNCILMAN HARTSON: OPPOSED USE? THANK YOU, TRENT.

>> MAYOR RENO: COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> COUNCILMEMBER: I MOVE TO

DENY. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO DENY.

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SECOND? >> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: SECOND. SO PLEASE VOTE.

IF YOU VOTE, IT WILL BE TO DENY THE REQUEST.

THE MOTION TO DENY PASSES 6-1. THANK Y'ALL.

>> I'M GOING TO STEP OUT OF THE NEXT ONE, SIR.

>> MAYOR RENO: OKAY. COUNCILMAN MILLER WILL BE EXCUSING HIMSELF FROM THE NEXT ITEM.

WE ARE ON 38, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR.

>> MAYOR RENO: OKAY. OPEN ITEM 2021-138, CONDUCT A

[2021-138]

>> TRENTON: THANK YOU, SIR. SECTION 2.04 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, A RESTAURANT OVER 1,000 SQUARE FEET IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THE PROPOSED REQUEST FOR A RESTAURANT. EXCEEDING THAT MINIMUM AMOUNT, EXISTING STRUCTURE IS APPROXIMATELY 2,700 SQUARE FEET.

WHERE THEY WILL BE LOCATED. THIS IS THE SAME LOCATION A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AN S.U.P. FOR CIGAR LOUNGE WAS APPROVED.

THE S.U.P. WAS FOR INDOOR SMOKING.

IT'S THE EXACT SAME SUITE. PRIOR TO THAT WAS THE PHILLY CHEESESTEAK PLACE. IN THE SAME SUITE.

THE REASON WHY THIS IS HAVING TO COME BACK IN ACCORDANCE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 9 NONCONFORMING USES A USE THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS LEASED OR THROUGH THE ZONING ORDINANCE THERE IS A CHANGE, IT GOES VACANT FOR SIX MONTHS OR LATER THEY HAVE TO MEET THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.

THAT IS WHY THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU TODAY FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. WITH THAT REQUEST, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT AN OUTSIDE PATIO PORCH AREA HERE IN THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE. WHICH WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 1,100 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OUTSIDE PORCH, PATIO AREA THAT RIGHT NOW THIS IS GRAVEL, DIRT, THAT IS HOW PEOPLE GET FROM THE PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT TO THE REAR OF THE LOT.

THEY HAVE TO CROSS THIS. WE BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY DO THAT, IT WILL CAUSE A LOT OF DUST, DIRT FLYING THROUGHOUT HERE, ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS OUTDOOR EATING IN THE AREA.

WHEN THEY PUT IN THE PROPOSED PORCH, THE OUTDOOR PORCH IT WOULD BE REMOVING FOUR EXISTING PARKING SPACES.

DUE TO THE BUILDING SIZE AND THE DIFFERENT USES LOCATED WITHIN THE STRUCTURE, IT WILL STILL MEET ALL PARKING REGULATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATIONS.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY REMOVING FOUR SPACES WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT IS REQUIRED, EVEN WITH THE RESTAURANT.

WHEN THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND THE ZONING COMMISSION ON MARCH 4, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THAT THE PROPOSED, DUMPSTER USED FOR THIS USE BE FULLY ENCLOSED MEETING THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES. ADDITIONALLY, THEY APPROVED THAT AT THE TIME, THE OUTSIDE PATIO IS CONSTRUCTED, THAT APPROVED SURFACE BE CONSTRUCTED AS WELL. THAT APPROVED SURFACE WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.

IT COULD BE A ANTIVE TO WHAT THE STANDARD IS.

WE MAILED OUT NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY MEMBERS IN 200 FEET.

ZERO CAME BACK IN APPROVAL AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE DRIVE BE MADE OF CONCRETE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS AND I CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS AT THIS

TIME. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THE CURRENT

DUMPSTER THERE IS NOT SCREENED? >> TRENTON: CORRECT.

ONE REASON FOR THAT, THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO ANNEXATION.

I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. >> NOT THAT IT MATTERS BUT ALL OF MIDLOTHIAN IS DIEING TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF RESTAURANT IS

TRYING TO GO THERE. >> I'LL LET THE APPLICANT

RESPOND. >> I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING.

>> MAYOR RENO: WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

>> THIS IS GOING IN TO THE SUITE THAT THE PREVIOUS CIGAR LOUNGE

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APPROVAL WANTED TO GO IN? >> TRENTON: YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: VERY GOOD. >> MAYOR RENO: WE DO ONE SPEAKER. PARDON ME IF I DON'T GET IT CORRECT. EDDIE CONDA.

>> YES, SIR. THAT IS FINE.

HOW ARE YOU? >> MAYOR RENO: FINE, THANK

YOU. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

FIRST OF ALL. SO EXCUSE ME --

>> MAYOR RENO: NAME AND -- >> I'M EDDIE CONDI 6417 PEACH TREE COURT IN MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. AS MR. TRENT DESCRIBING TO YOU, MYSELF AND TWO PARTNERS WOULD LIKE TO PUT A CONCEPT BRUNCH RESTAURANT THAT WE BELIEVE MIDLOTHIAN DOES NOT HAVE AND WOULD THRIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THAT SAID, WHEN WE APPLIED FOR THE S.U.P., WE KNEW WE WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT AND HAVE A BUILD-OUT COST THAT WERE REQUIRED FOR STARTUP RESTAURANT. THE ISSUE IS WHEN WE APPLIED FOR THIS, WE WEREN'T AWARE WE WOULD HAVE CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

WHEN HE WENT AND BID THE RECOMMENDATIONS OUT, A DRIVEWAY OF 109 FEET OF CONCRETE WOULD COST SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $10,000 TO $14,000 DEPENNING WHO BIDS IT OUT AND THE ENCLOSURE OF THE DUMPSTER IT COSTS $8,000. SO BEFORE WE EVEN START BUILD OUT OF THE INTERIOR WE ARE LOOKING AT $16,000 TO $18,000 TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY THAT IN FIVE YEARS IF THE LEASE IS WRITTEN OFF FOR WHATEVER REASON WE WOULDN'T RECOUP ANY OF THE MONEY. MY BUSINESS PARTNERS AND I BELIEVE THAT IS A BAD BUSINESS PRACTICE TO DO.

TO UPDATE SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY INSTEAD OF HAVING THE LANDLORD PAY FOR THAT. THAT IS THE REASON WHY I'M HERE

BEFORE YOU GUYS. >> MAYOR RENO: SORRY?

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THAT IS THE REASON I'M SPEAKING TO STATE THAT I FEEL LIKE HAVING TO PAY FOR THAT UPGRADE WOULD, DOES NOT

BENEFIT US. >> COUNCILMEMBER: A QUICK QUESTION. HAVE YOU EXECUTED THE LEASE ON

THIS SPACE? >> WE HAVE NOT.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THE S.U.P. TO BE APPROVED BEFORE WE PROCEED.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: QUESTIONS? >> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE A

QUESTION. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHO IS THIS BUILDING OWNED BY?

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: OWNED BY JIMMY LEMON.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: IT'S ABOUT TO BE SOLD?

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: NO. HE IS LEASING IT OUT TO MYSELF.

TRYING TO LEASE IT OUT TO MYSELF AND TWO PARTNERS FOR THE

RESTAURANT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I THINK HE

RECENTLY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

HE PURCHASED IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: [INAUDIBLE] >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: WE HAVE RECOMMENDED IF THAT IS SOMETHING HE IS INTERESTED IN DOING AND HE IS NOT, SIR. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS.

>> MAYOR RENO: GO AHEAD. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I DON'T.

I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR TRENT. >> MAYOR RENO: TRENT?

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE OF STAFF AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS THE ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL FOR THE PARKING?

AM I READING THAT RIGHT? >> TRENTON: CORRECT.

AND THE TIMING OF WHEN IT IS REQUIRED TO BE BUILT.

SO BEFORE WE WERE REQUIRING IT WHEREVER THE RESTAURANT, WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED WHEN THE OUTSIDE PATIO IS CONSTRUCTED IS WHEN THAT IS REQUIRED.

WE ARE FINE WITH THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU ARE FINE

WITH P&Z'S? >> THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TIMING. WE STILL PREFER CONCRETE,

THOUGH. >> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY.

>> GIVEN THAT IT WAS A RESTAURANT PREVIOUSLY AND PHILLY CHEESESTEAK FACTORY AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, I CAN UNDERSTAND GRANTING A VARIANTS FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. I'M HAVING TROUBLE GRANTING VARIANCE FOR DRIVEWAY ON THE BACK.

THAT IS A WHOLE NEW SETUP WITH THE OUTDOOR SEATING BACK THERE.

I DON'T KNOW. FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

I UNDERSTAND WE PREFER TO HAVE A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE OBVIOUSLY.

BUT WE HAVE HAD A RESTAURANT THERE BEFORE WITHOUT ONE.

SO EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS TWO DUMPSTERS IN THE PICTURE.

ONE IS FOR THE OTHER STRUCTURE? DO THEY HAVE TO BUILD ENCLOSURE BIG ENOUGH FOR THE SECOND BUILDING OR JUST THEIR DUMPSTER?

>> TRENTON: JUST FOR DUMPSTER USED FOR THE RESTAURANT.

>> SO THE OTHER ONE NEXT DOOR WOULD STILL BE UNSCREENED?

>> TRENTON: CORRECT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

YOU CAN ANSWER FROM THERE, IT'S FINE.

>> TRENTON: NO. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: OKAY.

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WANT? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT IS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. WE BROUGHT IT UP TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE ASKED WHAT IF WE DON'T START THE PATIO YET. WE MOVE IN AND DON'T HAVE A PATIO AND MY UNDERSTANDING THE P&Z SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE A PATIO OR NOT THE DRIVEWAY MUST BE IN PLACE PATIO OR NOT. IT'S NOT COHERENT WITH THE PATIO. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT KEEPS BEING BROUGHT UP. WE EVEN ASKED CAN WE MOVE IN AND NOT HAVE THE PATIO AND JUST AS WEDNESDAY GROW THEN PUT IT IN PLACE? THEY ARE LIKE IT DOESN'T MATTER

IF IT'S THERE OR NOT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE OTHER THING IF IT'S ANY OTHER BUSINESS, LIKE BUSINESS, THERE IS A MEDICAL BUSINESS GOING ON ACROSS THE OTHER SUITE.

THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THEM TO ENCLOSE THEIR DUMPSTER OR PUT A DRIVEWAY BEHIND THEIR BUSINESS.

>> I THINK THE PATIO IS A GAME CHANGER.

>> THE WAY THE P&Z AND THE WAY WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE WRITTEN IF THEY DON'T INSTALL THE PATIO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO INSTALL THE

12-FOOT DRIVE. >> THAT IS NOT HOW IT WAS --

>> DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? >> WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BIGGER OUTDOOR SEATING FOR A BRUNCH PLACE, WHICH WE THINK WE WOULD DRAW MORE CROWDS. BUT WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY

COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY AND THE CITY. >> VERY GOOD.

>> TO COME TO AGREEMENT. >> MAYOR RENO: IT WOULD BE MORE FAVORABLE TO TIE THE DRIVEWAY TO THE PATIO? IT SEEMS TO ME WOULD -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> SORRY. COME AGAIN, MAYOR?

>> MAYOR RENO: IF YOU TIE 12-FOOT DRIVEWAY TO THE PATIO, THAT SEEMS TO BE LESS ONEROUS BECAUSE YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE

WHEN YOU DO IT. >> RIGHT.

>> MAYOR RENO: YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT UP FRONT.

>> CORRECT. THE THREE OR THE FOUR PARKING SPACES WE ARE JUST LEAVING THE CONCRETE FLOOR AND STAMP IT AND PUT OFFENSE, SIX TO EIGHT-FOOT FENCE.

THE COST OF OFFENSE IS NOT -- WE ARE NOT PUTTING A COVER ON TOP.

JUST THE SAME CONCRETE IN PLACE NOW.

WE ARE JUST GOING TO STAMP IT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DRIVEWAY -- WE ASKED IF WE DO A DIFFERENT PAVEMENT, I GOT A BID FOR ASPHALT. I WAS $13,500.

IT'S EXPENSIVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> TRENSONTON, NOW THAT I HAVE E CLARIFICATION, IF THEY DON'T DO OUTSIDE SEATING RIGHT NOW, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING? WE ARE NOW JUST LOOKING AT THE RESTAURANT S.U.P., CORRECT?

>> TRENTON: CORRECT. >> AND THE DUMPSTER.

>> I'M GOING TO GO TO THAT. I FIND IT SOMEWHAT SILLY THAT WE AS A CITY WOULD REQUIRE AN APPLICANT IN, YOU KNOW, SMALL RESTAURANT SITUATION TO PAVE AND DUMPSTER ENCLOSE SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY THE EXACT SAME USAGE.

I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. OF COURSE, THE BUILDING OWNER IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO FRONT THAT COST BECAUSE RESTAURANTS, THEY DO TURN FREQUENTLY UNFORTUNATELY.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT THAT ON A STARTUP RESTAURANT IN 1,000 SQUARE FOOT OR -- I THINK IT'S 2 COMA --

>> 2700. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: 2,700 SQUARE FOOT STARTUP RESTAURANT IN WHAT IS IN NO DOUBT A LOWER COST COMMERCIAL SPACE. WHICH WE ARE, WE ARE AT A SHORT SUPPLY OF. I THINK IF WE WERE TO PUT THE REQUIREMENT ON THE LEASE TENANT AND NOT THE BUILDING OWNER, IT WOULD HAMPER BUSINESS. I MEAN, THAT IS TO ME TOO MUCH.

>> MAYOR RENO: THESE REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT PUT ON THE

CIGAR PLACE, CORRECT? >> TRENTON: FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE? IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT A RESTAURANT VERSUS THE LOUNGE AND THE TRASH AND THE

TYPE OF TRASH PRODUCED. >> THEY CAME BEFORE COUNCIL THEY

DIDN'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS. >> TRENTON: CORRECT.

THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE.

>> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE.

THIS IS ANNEXED BEFORE PHILLY CHEESESTEAK?

>> TRENTON: I BELIEVE IT WAS ANNEXED, THE BUILDING WAS ANNEXED -- THE PHILLY CHEESESTEAK WAS IN OPERATION

PRIOR TO THE PROPERTY. >> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: SO THAT IS HOW THEY GOT AROUND THE ENCLOSURE?

>> TRENTON: CORRECT. A NONCONFORMING USE PRIOR TO

THIS. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO MY QUESTION IS CURRENTLY THE USE OF THE BUILDING BY RIGHT IS WHAT?

>> TRENTON: COMMUNITY -- THAT IS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT SO IT WOULD BE ANYTHING PERMITTED IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT BY

RIGHT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: WHICH

DOES NOT INCLUDE -- >> TRENTON: RETAIL OFFICE AND

DOES NOT INCLUDE A RESTAURANT. >> ALL RESTAURANTS ARE S.U.P.

>> TRENTON: OVER 1,000 SQUARE FEET.

CORRECT. >> MAYOR RENO: WHAT WAS THE

CIGAR PLACE CONSIDERED? >> MAYOR RENO: THE CIGAR LOUNGE PERMITTED BY RIGHT. BUT DUE TO THEM WANTING TO HAVE

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>> RETAIL? >> RETAIL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

12-FOOT DRIVEWAY IS THAT GOING FROM WHERE THE CEMENT ENDS TO

WHERE THE DUMPTER IS? >> NO.

HERE. PARKING SPACE.

>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE PUTTING THE

CONCRETE. >> WAIT A MINUTE.

>> TRENTON: THE PATIO IS RIGHT HERE BEHIND THE SUITE.

THIS IS RIGHT HERE WHERE IT'S DIRT.

>> SO GOING TO THE THREE PARKING SPACES THAT GO TO GRAVEL TO GET

TO PARKING SPACE? >> CORRECT.

>> MAYOR RENO: HOW MANY TOTAL PARKING SPACES DO THEY HAVE?

>> PRIOR TO REMOVING THE FOUR SPACES IN THE REAR, THERE ARE 40 SPACES. TAKING OUT THE FOUR SPACES FOR THE PATIO, IT BRINGS IT DOWN TO 36.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: I'M ASSUMING THE REAR PARKING IS PRIMARILY STAFF, I IMAGINE, MOSTLY CONSUMERS ARE UP FRONT?

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I WOULD THINK IT MADE MORE SENSE IF THEY NIX THE OUTDOOR PATIO THEN IT'S SIMPLY PUTTING A RESTAURANT BACK IN TO A SPOT THAT WAS A RESTAURANT.

AND SHOULD THEY EVER -- LET'S SAY THEY GO IN THERE AND THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL AND THEY ARE LIKE THIS GREAT.

WE LOVE IT. WE WANT TO INVEST IN THE BUILDING EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T OWN IT, WHICH HAPPENS.

LET'S GO BACK FOR A PATIO AND AT THAT POINT WE COULD SAY ALL RIGHT, IF YOU WANT TO PUT A PATIO IN, YOU HAVE TO PUT A ROAD IN OR THE DUMPSTER IN. BUT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW,

GOOD -- >> TRENTON: THAN IS WHAT P&Z

RECOMMENDATION IS. >> MAYOR RENO: NOT EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID. YOU ARE TYING BOTH --

>> YOU ARE RIGHT. I TIED BOTH.

>> TRENTON: YOU APOLOGIZE. >> MAYOR RENO: I WOULD BE OPEN

TO WALTER'S LINE OF THOUGHT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: YOU UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR DRIVE AROUND BACK IF YOU ARE ADDING A NEW ELEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE THE PATIO.

I WOULD ALSO WOULD THINK THEY COULD PROVE THE NEED AND THE VALUE TO ADD IT AT A LATER DATE SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO.

I BELIEVE THAT IF THEY ARE GOING TO ADD THE PATIO RIGHT NOW THAT IT WOULD NEED THE DRIVE BECAUSE I CAN SEE IT STIRRING UP THE DUST AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF STUFF.

>> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: I AGREE WITH THAT.

WOULD YOU DO IT WITHOUT THE DRIVE NOW? LATER AND COME BACK AND REQUEST --

>> IS THAT A DEAL BREAKER FOR THE APPLICANT? IF WE WERE TO ADJUST THIS AND SAY HYPOTHETICALLY IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT WITH JUST A VARIANCE ON THE DUMPSTER AND APPROVE THE

S.U.P. -- HERE HE IS MAGICALLY. >> THANK YOU.

SINCE THE P&Z RECOMMENDED CONCRETE PAVEMENT, CONCRETE PAVEMENT TO ME WOULD BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PAVEMENT THERE IS.

I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS ANOTHER FORM OF PAVEMENT WE CAN USE OTHER THAN CONCRETE IF WE DO, DO THE PATIO ON THE BACK?

>> P&Z RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW FOR ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL IF APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER TO ALLOW SOMETHING OTHER THAN CONCRETE IF APPROVED BY THE ENGINEER.

>> WE MAKE EVERY PERSON PUT IN CONCRETE.

EVEN HOMEOWNERS HAVE TO PUT IN CONCRETE.

TO SUPPORT THE 75,000 POUNDS. >> IF I MAY ADD A WEDDING VENUE HAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PAVEMENT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

>> WHAT IS BACK THERE RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW I SEE GRAVEL.

IS IT ALL GRAVEL? >> GRAVEL AND DIRT AND GOES TO

GRASS. >> NO CONCRETE NOW?

>> THE ONLY SPOT FOR PARKING. SPARKING SPACES.

>> IT'S CONCRETE? >> YES, SIR.

>> TO RECAP JUSTIN'S QUESTION WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH NIXING THE PATIO AS A WHOLE RIGHT NOW, ESSENTIALLY IF WE WERE TO PUT FORTH NO ENCLOSURE AROUND THE DUMPSTER AND NO 12-FOOT DRIVE BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE OUTDOOR DINING --

>> YES, SIR. >> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE, WOULD BE SELLABLE TO AT THIS TIME? SHOULD THINGS PROGRESS AND YOU WANT TO COME BACK FOR OUTDOOR DINING THEN WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD

TAKE AND HOW IT WOULD LOOK? >> YES, SIR.

IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDS.

AS YOU KNOW, ANY RESTAURANT IN MIDLOTHIAN THAT HAS A PATIO, THEIR SEATING CAPACITY RISES. THEY HAVE MUCH MORE CUSTOMERS COME IN TO THE ESTABLISHMENT THAN IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PATIO.

TO BE HONEST WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN WITH THE PATIO, BUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL IS HELPING US WITH.

THE COST OF 109-FOOT DRIVEWAY 12-FEET RIDE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T OPEN THE PATIO.

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OPENED THE RESTAURANT. >> WHAT OTHER POTENTIAL SURFACES COULD THE CITY ENGINEER CONSIDER?

ASPHALT DRIVE OR -- >> TRENTON: I WOULD TURN TO THE CITY ENGINEER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: HERE HE IS, MAGICALLY APPEARING.

>> TRENTON: WE PLANNED THAT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN:

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR PRO TEM, THE GENERAL IS CONCRETE OR ASPHALT. THE PRODUCT THAT WAS USED AT THE WEDDING VENUE, IF YOU TALKED TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER I THINK HE WOULD SAY HE WOULDN'T USE IT AGAIN BECAUSE HE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH IT AND THE INSTALLATION WAS PRETTY EXPENSIVE. NORMALLY YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT IS ALL WEATHER THAT WON'T PRODUCE THE DUST.

REALLY THE TWO MAIN ONES ARE PROBABLY CONCRETE AND ASPHALT.

OTHER ITEMS WOULD BE MORE LABOR INTENSIVE AND EXPENSIVE.

THAT IS REALLY AGAIN AT THIS POINT WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THOSE TWO ITEMS ON SOMETHING THAT SMALL WITH ASPHALT.

USUALLY THE PRICE IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

IT MAY BE COMPARABLE. BUT IT CAN BE UP TO THE APPLICANT IF COUNCIL SO CHOOSES TO ALLOW FOR THE TWO ALTERNATIVES AND PRICE IT OUT TO SEE WHICH COMES BACK MORE COST

EFFICIENT. >> THE PRICE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

ASPHALT AND CONCRETE IS MINIMAL. >> IT IS.

THESE DAYS. IT USED TO BE CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT. BUT THESE DAYS, SMALL JOB IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE FOR SOMETHING THAT SMALL.

>> MAYOR RENO: WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT ON CONCRETE.

>> WE MAKE EVERYONE DO CONCRETE. >> MAYOR RENO: FAIRLY CONSISTENT. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE

WE CLOSE THE OPEN? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE

PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> MAYOR RENO: I'M CONFUSED HERE. WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE A VARIANTS ON THE DUMPSTER? AND THEN TIE THE 12-FOOT DRIVEWAY TO THE PATIO? IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?

>> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: DUMPSTER ALSO?

>> MAYOR RENO: VARIANTS ON THE DUMPSTER TO ALLOW THEM TO USE IT

WITHOUT ENCLOSING IT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: NOT REQUIRE THE 12-FOOT WIDE DRIVE REHAB UNTIL THEY COME BACK IF THEY EVER COME BACK FOR A CHANGE TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

>> I CAN GO WITH THAT. >> SO VARIANTS ON THE DUMPSTER FOR NOW. BUT WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR THE DRIVEWAY THEN THEY ENCLOSE THE DUMPSTER?

>> WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT -- >> THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO

FIGURE IT OUT. >> WHEN THEY PUT IN THE PATIO,

THE DUMPSTER HAS TO BE SCREENED. >> MAYOR RENO: EVERYTHING IS TIED TO PATIO. DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND DRIVEWAY.

>> I STILL DON'T FEEL IT'S RIGHT TO FORCE THE TENANT TO ENCLOSE

THE COMMUNAL DUMPSTER. >> MAYOR RENO: WELL, IT'S NOT A COMMUNAL DUMPSTER. IT'S JUST FOR THAT BUILDING.

>> BUT THEY ONLY TAKING THE WHOLE BUILDING.

IT'S ONLY A SUITE. >> IT'S FOR THE SWEET IS HOW THE

ORDINANCE IS BUILDING. >> DUMPSTERS COME AND GO WITH THE TENANT, THE ENCLOSURE STAYS. I DON'T KNOW.

THIS IS NOT A LONG-TERM BUSINESS THAT IS TAKING, YOU KNOW, A RENTAL SPACE. THIS IS A RESTAURANT --

>> MAYOR RENO: WE CAN DELAY THAT DECISION UNTIL THEY COME

BACK FOR THE PATIO ANYWAY. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I AM HESITANT TO PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THIS ORD --

>> THE PATIO WON'T COME BACK TO YOU THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS

WRITTEN. >> RIGHT NOW THE PAT YOU OWE -- THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN AS PRESENTED IS AT THE TIME OF PATIO CONSTRUCTED MINIMUM OF 12-FOOT WIDE DRIVE HAS TO BE INSTALLED FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS. ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL MAY BE USED IF APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK. THE ONLY YOU HAVE LEFT TO DESIGN IS THE SCREEN. DO YOU WANT IT SCREENED YES OR

NO. >> MAYOR RENO: CAN WE TIE THE

SCREEN TO PATIO? >> IF YOU WANT TO TIE IT TO THE PATIO, YOU CAN DO THAT. THAT IS THE ONLY THING TO PUT IN

THE MOTION. >> MAYOR RENO: CAN WE STRIKE

THE ALTERNATE -- >> YES.

IF YOU WANT IT TO BE CONCRETE, YOU CAN STIPULATE THAT.

>> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT. TO BE FAIR FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO STAY WITH THE CONCRETE.

>> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: I AGREE. >> MAYOR RENO: YEAH.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE RESTAURANT INSIDE THE BUILDING WITH NO PATIO AT THIS TIME. AND WAIVE THE SCREEN FOR THE DUMPSTER AND WAIVE THE 12-FOOT STRIP OF CONCRETE BEHIND THE BUILDING WHICH WILL ALL GO TOGETHER AT ONE TIME IF THEY

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AND BUILD A CONCRETE PAD. >> MAYOR RENO: SO THEN THEY

HAVE TO COME BACK -- >> APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING STEPS -- 12-FOOT IS ALREADY IN THERE RIGHT NOW AS IT SITS IN YOUR PACKET. SO WE WILL KEEP THAT LANGUAGE.

WE STRIKE "ALTERNATE MATERIALS," IT HAS TO BE CONCRETE.

AT THE TIME IT IS CONSTRUCTED THE DRIVE AISLE HAS TO BE CONCRETE. AND CONSTRUCTION LINKED TO THE PATIO. I AM HEARING TIE SCREENING TO

THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PATIO. >> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: YES.

>> THAT IS THE MOTION? >> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: THAT IS

THE MOTION. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SORRY.

I CAN'T SEE IT. REAL QUICK.

I WANT CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE VOTE.

THE AREA WITHIN THE BUILDING IS HOW BIG?

>> 2700 SQUARE FEET. >> THANK YOU.

THAT IS WHAT I WANTED. >> MAYOR RENO: DO WE HAVE A

SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: SO WE HAVE A MOTION TIE THE 12-FOOT DRIVEWAY TO THE PATIO. AND IT'S CONCRETE.

SCREENING OF THE TRASH DUMPSTER WILL ALSO BE TIED TO THE PATIO.

>> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: CORRECT. >> MAYOR RENO: MADE A MOTION AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 6-0. >> TRENTON: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. WELCOME.

I HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FOR Y'ALL.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> COUNCILMAN SIBLEY: WHAT IS GOING TO BE YOUR HOURS? I MEANT TO ASK THAT?

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>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, WE ARE HERE. WORKING ON THIS FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT MONTHS. BUT WE ARE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SERVICE AND THE ASSESSMENT PLAN.

WE HAVE THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.

IT'S ALL BEENVELTED OUT. SO THIS -- BEEN VETTED OUT.

THIS IS REDDEN FARMS. ZONING BEGAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS BEGUN ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

WE DUD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN AUGUST.

SO WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO THERE MATE BE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OR AGAINST THIS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. WITH THAT, I WILL STEP ASIDE AND LET THEM. THEY'RE GRIPPED.

I GUESS THEY HAVE SAID THEIR PIECE.

WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS OR APPROVE THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

>> MAYOR RENO: ITEM PASSES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS THE CLOSING. >> NOW WE HAVE TO ACT UPON THE

PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> THAT WAS CLOSED.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION?

>> SO WE HAVE CLOSED THE FOR >> YOU'LL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

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SUCH BONDS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS THE SELLING OF BONDS AND THE BONDS WERE SOLD THIS MORNING. I'VE GOT ROBERT RIVERA OF S.M.F., OUR UNDERWRITING AND MARK MCKLINEY, SAMCO THE BOND FINANCIAL ADVISER TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THIS. I WILL SAY THAT THEY WERE FAVORABLE. THEY SOLD VERY WELL.

IT'S A TESTAMENT TO HOW WELL MIDLOTHIAN IS RUN.

MR. MILLER, YOU SAID IN THE S.A.P. AND THE DOCUMENTS THAT

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WE SOLD THEM TO GOLDMAN SACHS, FRANKLIN AND --

>> NAVINE. >> OUT OF CHICAGO, I BELIEVE.

ALL OF THOSE WERE SOLD. JUST OVER 4% YIELD ON THAT.

VERY POSITIVE. VERY, VERY POSITIVE.

SO WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE ASSESSMENT AREAS 1 AND 2 PROJECT.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. >> FIVE SECONDS AND APPROVAL.

>> MAYOR RENO: UTEM PASSES -- ITEM PASSES 7-0.

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>> THANK YOU. AGAIN, THIS IS A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT AREA OF THE REDDEN FARMS P.I.D.

IT'S VERY GOOD AND FAVORABLE RATING THIS MORNING AT THE BOND SALE. THEY SOLD A LITTLE BIT OVER 4% YIELD ON THAT. WITH THAT SAID, MARK MCKLEINY AND ROBERT RIVERA IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

OR IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I WILL.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 7-0. ITEM 2021-142, CONSIDER AND

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>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS AN ITEM WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING AMONGST THE STAFF, THE AIRPORT AND SOME POSSIBLE TENANTS OUT AT THE MID-WAY AIRPORT.

CURRENTLY, AND I ALSO HAVE CHIEF MCCAS KILKILL AND THE BUILDING COLD TO SPEAK ON THAT. I KNOW THE PERIPHERY OF THAT.

WE HAVE ADOPTED THE 2015 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.

WITH THE 2015 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE WE ADOPTED COG AMENDMENTS WITH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT AMENDMENTS.

THAT REQUIRES NEW BUILDINGS HERE TO SPRINKLE ANYTHING THAT IS OVER 6,000 SQUARE FOOT. WITH THE AIRPORT AND THE TENANTS ARE REQUESTING, THEY ARE LOOKING TO ALLOW EXCEPTION FOR THE HANGARS THAT ARE BELOW 12,000 SQUARE FOOT.

THE DELTA BETWEEN 6,000 SQUARE FOOT AND THE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT FOR HANGARS WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO BE SPRINKLES.

THERE ARE A TONS OF CAVEATS. YOU MADE THAT REALLY SIMPLE.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS. A LOT OF JUST FACTS AND DETAILS, MINUTIA TO THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE AND INTERNATIONAL FAIR CODE AND THE AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT.

WITH THAT, DALE OR BERYL, ANYBODY WANT TO COME UP NEXT?

DALE, YOU WANT TO COME UP? >> MAYOR RENO: WE HAVE TWO

SPEAKERS. >> OUR STAFF DIDN'T FILL

ANYTHING OUT. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS IN ADDITION TO THE STAFF.

>> DALE, CORNELIA COURT. FIRE CHIEF.

HOW ARE Y'ALL? >> MAYOR RENO: CHIEF, WE ARE DOING WELL. ARE YOU OKAY?

>> GOOD. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A PARTICULAR HANGAR THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

OR RESEARCHED FOR THE MID-WAY AIRPORT.

THE MID-WAY AIRPORT IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED IN THE FACT THAT IT IS GOVERNED BY TWO DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL AGENCIES.

THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE AND THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN.

PER THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MIDLOTHIAN AND WAXAHACHIE WHEN THE AIRPORT WAS DEVELOPED AND PUT IN TO SERVICE, THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN WILL APPLY CODES AND REGULATIONS THROUGHOUT THE AIRPORT. BOTH IN THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE AND THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. THIS HANGAR IS IN THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE. IT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. OUR CODE IS THE CODE THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED WITH THE C.O.G. AMENDMENTS.

WE APPLY A PHILOSOPHY. IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE CODES THERE ARE A PHILOSOPHY. THERE IS AN OPTION "A" AND AN OPTION "B" WHEN IT COMES TO FIREFIGHTING CAPABILITIES.

OUR COMMUNITY HAS CHOSEN OPTION "B," WHICH PLACES A HIGHER RESTRICTION ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF

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IT'S IN THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE WHICH IS UNIQUE.

I DON'T NORMALLY ENFORCE MY CODES IN ANOTHER CITY.

THEIR CODES ARE A LITTLE LESS RESTRETCHTIVE THAN OUR CODES.

THEY HAVE CHOSEN OPTION "B." OUR OPTION "A" IN SOME CASES, AND THEY CHOOSE OPTION "B" IN OTHER CASES AND THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY APPLY FOR BUSINESSES, WHICH IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THE TRIGGERING MECHANISM FOR THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM. ALL THAT BEING SAID, THOSE CONVERSATIONS EVERY TIME THAT WE HAD THEM, THE GENERAL FEEDBACK I GOT BACK FROM THEM WAS IT'S Y'ALL'S RESPONSIBILITY.

Y'ALL APPLY YOUR CODES AND MOVE ON.

SO, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. KEVIN, OUR FIRE MARSHAL IS HERE.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE ASKED.

THE HANGAR AS I KNOW IT TODAY IS ABOUT 11,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S PROPOSED AT 100X110. IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A GROUP THREE HANGAR, LESS THAN 12,000 SQUARE FEET.

I THINK ALSO BECAUSE IT HAS A DOOR THAT IS NOT HIGHER THAN 28

FEET HALL. >> DO YOU KNOW HOW TALL DOOR IS?

>> I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I JUST KNOW THAT I HAVE SEEN SOME RENDERINGS AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE THE TRUE AND ACCURATE MEASUREMENTS.

CLYDE DO WE KNOW THAT? >> I'LL SAY ABOUT 20 -- 18.

18. >> 18 IS THE ANSWER.

>> SO SINCE IT'S IN WAXAHACHIE I'M SURE THERE IS A MUTUAL AID DEAL. WHO RESPONDS FIRST?

WAXAHACHIE OR US? >> PER THE AGREEMENT BOTH CITIES RESPOND TO ANY TYPE OF AN INCIDENT AT THE AIRPORT.

IF IT'S AN AIRPLANE DOWN, THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE WILL SEND AN ENGINE. THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN WILL SEND ENGINE AND BATTALION CHIEF AND AMBULANCE TO IT.

IF IT'S A STRUCTURE FIRE BOTH CITIES ARE GOING TO DUMP THEIR RESOURCES TOWARD THAT LOCATION TO TRY TO PROVIDE FIRE SUPPRESSION. IT'S JUST THE CITY OF MIDL MIDLOTHIAN, MY OPINION THAT WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION WHEN WE GET IN BUILDINGS THAT ARE GREATER THAN 6,000 SQUARE FEET, IT PUTS A SIGNIFICANT DEMAND ON OUR SERVICES.

AND INCREASES THE CHANCE OF FAILURE.

IT ALSO REDUCES OUR SAFETY FACTORS.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT QUANTIFYING THAT IN THE CODE.

IT'S JUST MY OPINION. >> MAYOR RENO: ARE THERE FIRE

HYDRANTS OUT THERE? >> YES.

>> MAYOR RENO: WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED?

>> OUR FIRE DEPRES SUPPRESSION . WE HAVE HYDRANTS IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. CITY WATER IS OUT THERE.

FIRE HYDRANT WISE WE ARE GOOD. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I DON'T WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE IT'S TOO EARLY.

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOW ALL OF YOUR CARDS?

>> NOT YES. >> WHAT DOES THE LATEST

INTERNATIONAL CODE CALL FOR? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 2018S IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS EVEN THE LATEST.

BUT THE 2018S, I KNOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MOVING TOWARD.

HEATH COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE 2018 CODES THAT THE OPTION "A" OR "B" IS GOING TO CHANGE THE RESTRICTION THAT WE ARE

CURRENTLY APPLYING. >> THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ON THE 2018S FROM THE HANGAR SITUATION.

LANGUAGE STAYS THE SAME. ALSO THE C.O.G. AMENDMENT STAYS THE SAME. WE PROPOSE WE ADOPT OPTION "B." WHICH WOULD KEEP US AT 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

>> THAT IS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. >> SO I'LL JUST ASK QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: CHIEF, CAN YOU DEFINE FOR ME THE TERM "MAXIMUM SINGLE FIRE AREA"?

OR MAYBE -- >> I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A TEST. [LAUGHTER] TO ME THAT MEANS ANYTHING UNDER ROOF.

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>> SO IF WE DON'T ADOPT THE C.O.G. AMENDMENTS AND WE JUST APPLY STRAIGHT CODE YOU ARE ABLE TO BREAK BUILDINGS UP IN FIRE AREAS BY FIRE RATED CONSTRUCTION.

WITH OPTION "B," THAT TAKES THE ABILITY TO DO THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION. SO WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2015 CODES, WE WENT WITH THE OPTION "B." THAT TELLS US THAT 6,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER ROOF.

WE SPRINKLE A BUILDING REGARDLESS OF FIRE AREA

SEPARATION, THAT SORT OF THING. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO TYPICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IF WE BUILT FIRE BLOCK WALLS THAT WE COULD TAKE WHAT WOULD BE 10,000, 20,000 SQUARE FEET IN TO WHAT WE WOULD SEE AT THE AIRPORT AT T-HANGARS, IF THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL WALLED UNDER THE OPTION "A"?

>> STRAIGHT CODE. I'M NOT SURE HOW OPTION "A"

WOULD APPLY. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: STRAIGHT CODE WITH THE FIRE BLOCK WALLS, IT WOULD REDUCE --

>> IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE HANGAR AND THE TYPE OF THE HANGAR. A LOT OF INFORMATION APPLIES TO THAT. YES.

THAT IS A POSSIBILITY IF WE DON'T ADOPT THE C.O.G.

AMENDMENT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO OKAY. SO THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING OUR C.O.G. AMENDMENT AND OUR ADOPTED CODE, COULD WE HAVE ANY SEPARATED SPACE UNDER A ROOF THAT WOULD NOT DISCOUNT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CALCULATION OF THE MAXIMUM SINGLE AREA?

>> CORRECT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS DENIAL? BECAUSE STAFF WANTS 6,000 SQUARE FOOT? I'M READING -- I WANT TO MAKE

SURE I UNDERSTAND. >> AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED AS THE FIRE OFFICIAL I DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CODE TO ALLOW ANYTHING LARGER THAN 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

TO NOT BE SPRINKLED. >> OKAY.

>> SO TO RECAP WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO QUOTE IT INCORRECT. IT WILL YOU MADE MENTION THAT WAXAHACHIE PLAYS A ROLE IN THIS AND YOU ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION AND THEY ARE BASICALLY SAYING IT'S YOUR CODE, APPLY YOUR CODE AS IT'S WRITTEN IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

>> YES. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVE GONE SO FAR TO SAY IF YOU PROVIDE US WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION FROM THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE SAYING HEY, IT'S IN OUR CITY AND WE WANT TO APPLY OUR CODE TO THIS BUILDING.

TO DATE, THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED THAT INPUT.

>> EVEN WITH THAT, IT DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR THEIR CODE, RIGHT?

BECAUSE THEY'RE 10,000 FOOT? >> NO, IT DOES QUALIFY FOR THEIR CODE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BUSINESS.

BUSINESS IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND UNDER.

SORRY, 10,000 AND OVER REQUIRES SPRINKLER IN WAXAHACHIE IF IT'S A BUSINESS. THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS.

SO THEREFORE IT GOES TO 12,000 SQUARE FOOT.

THE PROPOSED HANGAR, IM, IS 11,000 SQUARE FEET.

>> BEFORE I ASK THE NEXT QUESTION.

TAMMY, COULD YOU PULL UP THE AIRPORT BOUNDARIES BY CHANCE?

OR MAYBE -- >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> COUNCILM >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I WANT TO PULL IT UP. HIGHLIGHT WITH AIRPORT BOUNDARY?

>> MAYOR RENO: WALTER. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE SPEAKERS BEFORE WE GO FARTHER HERE.

I'LL STARL WITH DARRELL. DARRELL PHILLIPS, THE AIRPORT MANAGER. THEN WE HAVE ONE MR. SPEAKER AFTER THAT -- ONE MR. SPEAKER AFTER THAT.

-- ONE MORE SPEAKER. >> ONE OF THE CONCERNS THIS BROUGHT TENSION TO THE TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT.

THIS IS ON THE DOCKET. WE ARE LOOKING FOR AN AMENDMENT FOR THE AIRPORTS. AIRPORT ARE UNDER NFPA 409 FOR THE STANDARD FOR AIRPORT HANGARS.

IF YOU GOOGLE NFPA 409 IT WILL DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE UNDER THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM FOR THE AIRCRAFT HANGARS.

NFPA 13 DESCRIBES SPRINKLER FOR BUILDINGS AND UNDER 13 STORAGE BUILDINGS UNDER THE 12,000 DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE A SPRINKLER.

THE DIFFERENCE IN STORAGE ON THE AIRPORT IS YOU GOT T-HANGARS, 40X40S, AND 60X60S TO ALLOW YOU TO PUT A AIRCRAFT OUT OF THE WEATHER, OUT OF THE SUN, OUT OF THE RAIN.

BUT THEY ARE NOT INSULATED. THESE ARE METAL BUILDINGS, NOT INSULATED AND THEY DON'T HAVE HEATER SYSTEMS IN IT.

IF YOU PUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FULLY INSULATE IT AND PUT A HEATING SYSTEM IN IT.

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WE'VE GOT TWO HANGARS. WE DON'T HAVE JUST ONE.

"I" HAVE TWO INVESTORS BUILDING HANGARS AT THE AIRPORT.

11,200 FOR THE D DON JACKSON HANGAR 740X40 STORAGE GANGERS AND THE CNB HANGAR LOOKING AT 11,000 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE HANGAR AS WELL. THESE ARE THE AIRCRAFT STORAGE.

AND ANYTHING UNDER 12,000, UNDER NFPA 409, DESCRIBES IT AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

THE AIRPORT BOARD WE HAD THIS ON OUR AGENDA LAST WEEK.

THEY SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. I'M NOT SAYING TO GIVE US ANY TYPE OF AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING TO THIS.

JUST LOOK AT WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING IS IT.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT DOES COVER AIRPORT HANGARS? YOU CAN GOOGLE, YOU CAN GOOGLE -- I MEAN YOU CAN PUT IDENTIFIER ON YOUR 2015, THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT AIRCRAFT HANGARS. THERE IS NO DESCRIPTION.

>> I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. >> JUST HIT FIND AND PUT

AIRCRAFT HANGAR. >> I'M LOOKING AT IT.

>> YEAH. YEAH.

UNDER NFPA 409 IT'S COVERED UNDER AIRCRAFT HANGARS AND ANYTHING UNDER 12,000 SQUARE FEET FOR STORAGE ONLY.

ALL THE HANGARS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL, BUSINESS, THEY ALL HAVE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. WE ENCOURAGE THAT.

IF THEY ARE OCCUPIED 40 HOURS PLUS, I ENCOURAGE TO HAVE THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN IT. WHEN AN AIRCRAFT STORAGE HANGAR, A GUY COMES OUT MAYBE ONE HOUR DURING THE DAY AND PULLS THE AIRPLANE OUT AND PUT HIS CAR IN AND SHUTS THE DOOR AND FLIES

OFF. >> I'M GOING TO SHOOT HOLES IN YOUR THEORY ABOUT YOUR PART. MOST SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ARE DRY SYSTEM SO ALL YOU HAVE IS A CLOSET HEATED.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HEAT THE WHOLE HANGAR.

THE LINES IN THE ROOF ARE ALL AIR-FILLED.

SO THAT KUND OF SHOOTS A THEORY OF THAT.

HAVING TO HEAT THE HANGAR OUT. >> NO, IT DOESN'T --

>> I INSTALLED THEM FOR FIVE YEARS.

KNOW HOW IT'S BUILT. SECOND THING YOU ARE STORING FUEL IN AN AIRCRAFT, IN A BOX. NOW IF YOU STORE BABY DIAPERS IN A BOX IN THAT BUILDING THAT WOULD BE FINE.

THERE IS NO COMBUSTIBLE LIQUID IN THERE.

BUT THE AIRCRAFT CARRIES HOW MANY ON AVERAGE AIRPLANE?

COUPLE HUNDRED GALLONS? >> WE WON'T GET TO THAT PART.

BUT TO -- I KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING AND HE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID THERE WAS AIRCRAFT STORAGE. UNDER 409 -- THANK YOU VERY

MUCH -- >> 00 --

>> HOLD ON. >> STORAGE ONLY.

>> AIRCRAFT HANGAR AND REPAIR. I'M WITH YOU THERE.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT SAYS THAT GROUP -- [OVERTALK] INCLUDES AMONG OTHERS THE USE OF THE BUILDING OR THE STRUCTURE OR A PORTION THEREOF FOR STORAGE NOT CLASSIFIED AS A HAZARDOUS OCCUPANCY.

>> RIGHT. >> I'M WITH YOU THERE.

HOWEVER UNDER A CLASS THREE, HAZARDOUS OCCUPANCY FOR 12,000 SQUARE FEET IF YOU LOOK DOWN THERE, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE HANGAR. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CAN BE IN A HANGAR. TOTAL FUEL CAPACITY OF ALL THE AIRCRAFT IN UNSPRINKLED SINGLE FIRE AREA IN EXCESS OF THE 1600 GALLONS. SO TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW DIFFERENT AIRPLANES ARE, AND WHAT THEIR SIZES ARE.

CAN YOU PULL UP THAT PICTURE FOR EXAMPLE?

>> SO THAT 100X115 -- WHAT WAS IT?

>> 100X110. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: 100X110. TWO PICTURES YOU WANT YOU TO PULL UP. PULL UP THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

AIRPLANES ARE MEASURED FOR HANGAR SPACE.

IF YOU WERE TO WANT TO LEASE OUT THIS HANGAR BY SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE ARE TALKING TIP TO TAIL, WING TIP TO WING TIP.

THAT IS HOW YOU RENT IT OUT. IT'S PALLADIUS PC 12.

IT HOLDS 402 GALLONS OF FUEL. NOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT HANGAR WOULD ALLOW FOR THE 4.8 OF THOSE AIRPLANES.

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WE KNOW THAT. GOOGLE GULF STREAM G4.

SO, LET ME PREFACE THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION SAYING I AM IN AVIATION AND I WANT TO MAKE THIS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.

BUT I AM LOOKING FOR THE FORWARD SAFETY, SECURITY AND USABILITY.

THAT AIRPLANE RIGHT THERE WHICH HOLDS A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN 1600 GALLONS CAN FIT IN THAT HANGAR WITH AN ENTRY DOOR MODIFICATION.

A DOGHOUSE. YOU PUT A DOGHOUSE ON IT AND YOU CAN PUT THE PLANE DOWN THE MIDDLE.

THAT RAISES THE 18-FOOT DOOR TO 22 FOOT.

OR 23 FOOT. IT HAPPENS, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. WE DO IT ALL THE TIME.

THE POINT I'M BRINGING YOU ARE CORRECT.

STORAGE HANGARS DON'T REQUIRE SPRINKLES WITHIN CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE, ET CETERA. HOWEVER, PER THE CODE, THE CAPACITY NOT, WHAT IS IN IT, IS WHAT DICTATES WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS TO BE SPRINKLED. UNDER YOUR CODE FOR 12,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU FALL UNDER GROUP THREE.

TOTAL FUEL CAPACITY. NO MORE THAN 1600 SQUARE FEET.

I SEE AS A POTENTIAL ISSUE, I DON'T IMAGINE WE ARE DEFUELING ANY OF THE PLANES. SO WHERE MOST PLANES DON'T HANGAR WITH FUEL IN THEM BECAUSE PLANES LEAK, WE ARE NOT DEFUELING. WE ARE NOT DEFUELING AIRPLANES

TO PUT THEM IN THE HANGAR. >> NO AIRCRAFT IS STORED WITH --

>> I'M ALMOST CERTAIN WE DON'T HAVE DEFUEL CAPABILITY AT THE

AIRPORT. >> WE DON'T.

>> SO THAT MEANS THERE IS FUEL IN THE PLANES BETWEEN 20-30% OF

THE MAX LOAD IN THE HANGAR. >> YES.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SHOULD THE HANGAR BE FULLY FILLED WITH THE AIRPLANES, MAYBE NOT THIS TENANT BUT MAYBE THE NEXT TENANT DECIDES THEY WANT TO PUT COMMUNAL LEASE IN TO IT, THAT POTENTIALLY PUTS OUR FIREFIGHTERS AT RISK SHOULD -- OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND WAXAHACHIE'S FIREFIGHTERS AT

RISK SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN. >> BUT AS YOU SAID, THE DOOR IS 18 FOOT. GULF STREAM WILL NOT FIT IN THAT

DOOR. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: AGREED.

>> AND HIS REQUEST IS FOR 18 FOOT.

NO DOGHOUSE. NO DOOR LIFT.

IF HE SELLS THAT HANGAR OR SOMEONE ELSE TAKES THAT HANGAR AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, PUT A DOGHOUSE, IT SHOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW AND THEN THEY CAN SAY YES, PUT IN A

SPRINKLER SYSTEM. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO 4.8 OF THE PALLADUS WILL FIT IN THE HANGAR.

4.8 -- FOUR, BECAUSE .8 OF THE AIRPLANE IF WE MAKE THEM SQUARE, FOUR OF THEM WOULD PUT YOU OVER THE 1600 GALLONS FOR WHAT WOULD TURN YOUR STORAGE ONLY HANGAR IN TO A HAZARDOUS CLASS THREE HANGAR. SO WHEN IT'S HAZARDOUS, IT THEN BECOMES SPRINKLER-REQUIRED. IF WAXAHACHIE DOESN'T WANT TO PROVIDE MIDLOTHIAN WITH SOME SORT OF -- WHAT WAS THE TERM, CHIEF? [INAUDIBLE] DIRECTION LETTER OR NOTIFICATION THAT WE CAN PUT ON FILE, I FEEL IT IMPROP EARN FOR US AS A CITY OF -- IMPROPER FOR US AS A CITY

OF MIDLOTHIAN -- >> THE CITY MANAGER SAID THEY APPROVED NOT PUTTING IN THE SPRINKLE SYSTEM.

>> BRING ME THIS IN WRITING AND I'LL SUPPORT YOU.

>> I'M WITH THIS CHANGE PROVIDED WE GET THE WRITTEN NOTICE FROM

WAXAHACHIE. >> THE SAME WITH YOUR PROPERTY.

THE DON JACKSON HANGAR IS 740X40.

40X40 ARE SINGLE ENGINE OR THE TWIN AIRCRAFT.

80 GALLONS AT THE MAX. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT

ONE? >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: NO.

THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO THE C.O.G. AMENDMENT UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE AND FORTUNATELY -- FORTUNATELY WE ARE AIMING FOR A HIGHER STANDARD BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS

ADDITIONAL COST TO THAT. >> WHAT IS THE CONSIDERATION --

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: GIVE WAXAHACHIE TO GIVE US

NOTIFICATION. >> 409 COVERS AND IT HAS

STANDARDS. >> I HAVE IT HERE IF YOU WANT TO

READ IT. >> 409 IS NOT --

>> I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON. >> 409 IS NOT SENDING CHIEF OR FRIENDS I HAVE ON THE FORCE THAT MAY PERISH IN A FIRE BECAUSE

SOMEBODY -- >> THAT IS OUR CONCERN.

>> THAT IS MY CONCERN. >> NO FIRST RESPONDER GOES IN AN AIRCRAFT HANGAR. THEY COOL THE BUILDING.

IT'S NOT OCCUPANCY. IF IT'S OCCUPANCY, I UNDERSTAND.

>> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A FIREFIGHTER WORK?

>> YES, SIR. I HAVE BEEN IN THE AVIATION

BUSINESS FOR 31 YEARS. >> I HAVE BEEN IN AVIATION

FIREFIGHTING. >> I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE FIREFIGHTERS GO IN A STORAGE HANGARS.

>> HOLD UP. >> YES.

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>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: WE HAVE ONE MR. SPEAKER. DREW SANDAUX.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR RENO AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

>> MAYOR RENO: NAME. >> DREW SAM BELLE, PRESIDENT OF THE MID-WAY REGIONAL AIRPORT BOARD.

I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 117 MCKINLEY CIRCLE.

OKAY. SO WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST AIRPORT BOARD MEETING.

JUST LAST WEEK. SO THIS DISCUSSION IS REAL FRESH IN MY MIND. IT'S THE BOARD'S CONSENSUS THAT SPRINKLING SOMETHING OVER 6,000 FEET TO 12,000 FEET WOULD GREATLY IMPAIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT OUR AIRPORT.

OKAY? IT HAS TO DO WITH THE OTHER COMPETING AIRPORTS IN THE AREA. DO NOT ROUTINELY REQUIRE SPRINKLING AIRPORT HANGARS THAT ARE LESS THAN 12,000 FEET.

SO YOU HAVE APPOINTED US TO THE AIRPORT BOARD.

YOU HAVE ASKED US TO BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THE AIRPORT. WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO BRING SOME DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE SOME THINGS ON THE TABLE. SO WE ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN ALLOWING US TO BUILD HANGARS WITHOUT HAVING TO SPRINKLER THEM. ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN SPOKEN OF IS MOST AIRPORTS OUR SIZE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT ON SITE. OKAY? THESE OTHER COMPETING CITIES HAVE FAIR DEPARTMENTS.

SO THE BOARD WOULD BE HONORED TO GIVE YOU SOME LAND FOR A FUTURE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IT WOULD HELP YOU WITH RESPONSE TIMES.

I WON'T GO ON ANY MORE. >> I HAVE A CLARIFICATION.

THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS THAT THIS IS FOR STORAGE OF AIRPLANES ONLY. MY INFERENCE IS NO MAINTENANCE WOULD BE DONE ON THE AIRCRAFT. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> MAYOR RENO: HOW IS THAT

GOING TO BE ENFORCED? >> DARRELL SPEAK TO THAT,

PLEASE. >> YES, WE DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS AT THE AIRPORT. THE FIRE MARSHALS COME OUT.

WE DO INSPECTIONS. WE DO MONITOR ALL OUR HANGARS.

WE ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY. WE WOULD KNOW IF THERE IS A BUSINESS OR A MAINTENANCE FACILITY OR ANYTHING ELSE.

ALSO THIS CODE WOULD ALSO ANY FUTURE T-HANGARS THAT WE

BUILD -- >> MY QUESTION IS ON THIS PARTICULAR HANGAR HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NEVER MAINTENANCE DONE ON AN AIRCRAFT ST STORED IN THAT HANG?

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: THAT IS MY ONLY POINT OF CONTENTION.

I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD HAMPER OR HURT FUTURE ECONOMIC GROWTH.

WE CAN'T PUT ANYTHING OTHER IN THAT HANGAR THAN DRY AIRPLANES.

MUCH LIKE WE SAW EARLIER WITH THAT, THE ROAD AND THE ENCLOSURE IT'S UNDUE BURDEN TO PUT ON A TENANT OR A BUILDING OWNER AFTER THE FACT TO SAY HEY, I KNOW YOU WANT TO BRING AWESOME MAINTENANCE FACILITY OR A FLIGHT DEPARTMENT THAT WANTS TO DO THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO PUT SPRINKLERS IN THE BUILDING. NO ONE IS GOING TO DO THAT.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS THE OCCUPANCY PERMIT HAS WHAT TYPE OF USE THERE IS IN THIS HANGAR.

IT WOULD BE FOR AIRCRAFT STORAGE ONLY.

NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND IT WILL SHOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK IN THE BUILDING AND ALL OF THAT IF YOU HAD A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS UNDER YOUR OCCUPANCY PERMIT. SO WHEN YOU ISSUE THE OCCUPANCY PERMIT OF ANY OF THE BUILDINGS AT THE AIRPORT, IT WILL DESCRIBE

THE TYPE OF USE. >> MAYOR RENO: YOU KNOW I WORK IN AVIATION. BUT I'M A BIT OVERWHELMED HERE ABOUT MAKING A DECISION. I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. BECAUSE THIS, I'M ASSUMING THIS

IS ALL OR NOTHING. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAD ONE QUESTION AND I THINK IT WILL HELP BOTH OF US.

THE CHIEF NEEDS A LETTER ON WHAT WE ARE WANTING.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS ALL COMING DOWN TO IS THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IS COST PREVENT TIFF TO YOU.

>> YES, IT IS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: BUT THAT IS

WHAT THIS IS COMING DOWN TO. >> WE COULDN'T GET PRIVATE INVESTMENT IF THEY HAD TO PUT A $500,000 OR $200,000 SPRINKLER SYSTEM ON TOP OF A STORAGE HANGAR.

ANY COMMERCIAL HANGAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 2,000 OR 3,000 SQUARE FOOT.

WE'LL REQUIRE THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM FOR OCCUPIED HANGAR OF A BUSINESS. STORAGE -- IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY AIRPORT IN METROPLEX, YOUR T-HANGARS ARE OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET. A REGULAR T-HANGAR.

15 "T"S IN A LINE. EVERY AIRPORT IN THE METROPLEX HAS THESE. WE HAVE THEM.

NONE OF OUR HANGARS, OUR STORAGE HANGERS AT THE AIRPORT RIGHT NOW

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NONE OF THEM. THEY ALL COMPLY WITH THE NFPA 409. BUT NONE OF THEM COMPLY WITH THIS NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT.

THAT IS WHY THE AVIATION INDUSTRY IN THE METRO PLEX IS LOOKING TO GET AN AMENDMENT JUST TO EXCLUDE AIRPORTS UNDER 12,000

FOR STORAGE. >> COUNCILMAN WICKLIFFE: SO I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT AIRPLANES.

DEVELOPMENT, REAL ESTATE, I'M ALL IN.

I'M JUST CURIOUS HERE. I MEAN IF YOU BUILT A HOUSE IN 2018, IT'S OUT OF CODE TODAY. AT LEAST IF YOU BUILT IT IN 2015 BECAUSE OF THE 2018 CODE. THE CITY ADOPTS THE NEW CODE AND EVERYTHING FROM THEN ON HAS TO BE BROUGHT TO CODE.

SO SINCE THIS IS TECHNICALLY NEW CONSTRUCTION, I'M STILL LOST ON WHY IT SHOULDN'T FOLLOW AT LEAST THE CODE WE HAVE, WHICH IS 6,000 FEET. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

OTHER THAN THE COST. I GET THAT.

>> UNDER THIS CODE, THE BOX HANGARS THAT WE ARE FIXING TO BUILD. THERE ARE SEVEN UNITS.

40X40S. THEY CANNOT DO IT AS ONE BUILDING. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEPARATE IT

TO THREE HANGARS. >> WITHOUT SPRINKLERS.

>> WITHOUT SPRINKLERS. SKIP A SPACE.

THREE HANGARS. NOW WE HAVE WASTED SPACE ON THE AIRPORT THAT WE ARE LIMITED ON. ALL OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE METRO PLEX DO NOT ENFORCE THIS AND DO NOT REQUIRE THIS UNDER AIRCRAFT STORAGE. SO WHY WOULD SOMEONE INVEST IN OUR AIRPORT OR PUT IN A NEW HANGAR WHEN THEY CAN GO UP TO THE GRAND PRAIRIE AND GO ANYWHERE ELSE, ARLINGTON, ANY OF THE OTHER AIRPORTS TO DO THE SAME THING WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN? WE WOULD BE THE ONLY AIRPORT IN

METRO PLEX THAT REQUIRES THIS. >> MAKES US A SHINING STAR,

DOESN'T IT? >> CHEAPER, TOO.

>> THAT IS A GREAT POINT. IT DOES MAKE INSURANCE CHEAPER.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. >> THERE ARE --

>> IT DOES. I CAN'T PUT AN ENGINE IN HANGAR WITHOUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM. I CAN'T PUT RECORDS IN A HANGAR

WITHOUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM. >> THAT IS A BUSINESS.

>> I'M SURE -- >> THAT WOULD BE AT OUR AIRPORT,

TOO. >> I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER ARLINGTON AIRPORT SET UP A ROW OF THE T-HANGARS AND THEY BURNED THEM TO THE DOWN. NOW THEY HAVE THE STRICTEST

INSPECTION. >> BUT THEY DON'T HAVE

SPRINKLERS IN THE T-HANGAR. >> THEY WON'T LET YOU DO

ANYTHING. >> THEY DON'T HAVE SPRINKLERS.

>> ALL YOU CAN DO IS PUT AN AIRPLANE IN IT.

>> WE REQUIRE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS FOR ALL THE HANGARS BUT FOR STORAGE WE DO NOT. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT.

THERE IS A PETITION RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT AN AMENDMENT TO THIS FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

IT WOULD BE EASY TO LOOK AT THE NFPA 409 AND SAY AIRCRAFT HANGARS ARE SPECIFIED UNDER NFPA 409.

LET'S JUST FOLLOW THAT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I WOULD BE MORE, I WOULD BE MORE AGREEABLE TO GRANT A VARIATION FROM THE C.O.G. AMENDMENT AS WE HAVE IT STATED IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE INSTALLATION OF TWO-HOUR FIRE BLOCK WALLS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE C.O.G. WOULD ALLOW TO BREAK UP WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE MAXIMUM SINGLE FIRE AREA.

>> C.O.G. DOES NOT ALLOWED THAT. >> AGREED.

BUT IF WE HAVE TALKING ABOUT VARIATIONS THAT IS ONE I'D TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES A FIRE BLOCK.

12,000 SQUARE FOOT WIDE OPEN AREA DOES NOT.

NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU CUT, IT'S GREAT.

>> THAT IS GREAT FOR T-HANGARS BUT FOR A SMALL 70X80 HANGAR.

>> MAYOR RENO: TED? >> COUNCILMAN MILLER: I LISTEN TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW YOU AT ALL.

THE MAN ON THE END WAS THE CHIEF OF FIRE AT D.F.W.

TWO MEN BEHIND YOU I HAVE KNOWN SINCE HE WAS 15 YEARS OLD.

I TRUST THEM 100%. IF THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT, THAT IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. I MEAN I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT DALE IS GOING TO MAKE IT THE BEST HE CAN MAKE IT.

I'M SORRY. WE HAVE TURNED DOWN THINGS ON THE COST BASIS THAT IT'S NOT PROHIBITIVE TO DO IT AT THAT PROJECT PRICE. REALLY, IT ISN'T MY PROBLEM.

I WANT IT TO BE THE SAFEST AIRPORT.

IF WE HAVE LESS PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE SPRINKLERS AIR HANGARS WE JUST HAVE SPRINKLER AIR HANGARS.

IF DALE RECOMMENDS TO DO IT THIS WAY AND IF KEVIN RECOMMENDS TO DO IT THIS WAY I'M SORRY. YOU ARE RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW YOU AT ALL. I TAKE THEIR WORD.

>> WE WOULDN'T BUILD T-HANGARS WOULD BUILD THAT.

WE WOULD NEVER BUILD THAT. >> I CONTEND WE SHOULDN'T PUT T-HANGARS AT MID-WAY. WE HAD THE CONVERSATION.

>> THAT IS NOT OUR PLAN. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: LARGE

BOX STYLE COMMUNITY HANGARS. >> WE HAVE 30 ON THE WAITING LIST AND WE ARE MAXED OUT. WE NEED MORE HANGARS.

WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION INVESTMENT ON THE TABLE NOW.

>> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT. >> CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING --

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>> MAYOR RENO: COME TO THE PODIUM.

SIT BACK, PLEASE. >> MARK, PRESIDENT OF THE CITIZENS NATIONAL BANK OF TEXAS. 125 WILLOW CREST, WAXAHACHIE.

GUYS, I HEAR ALL OF THE PIECES. I HAVE SAT ON YOUR SIDE.

I DID IT FOR EIGHT YEARS IN BOTH SEATS.

IN ALL SEATS. THE PIECE HERE WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES.

THIS IS THE ONLY COMMUNITY IN THIS STATE WHERE TWO CITIES OWN AN AIRPORT AND TRY TO OPERATE IT TOGETHER.

WE HAVE REALLY SET OURSELVES UP AS THE WORLD HAS GOTTEN MORE COMPLEX. ONE HALF OF THE CITY DOING H.R.

ONE CITY. OUR CITY HERE TRYING TO DO ADMINISTRATION. WE DON'T EVER HAVE A JOINT MEETING OF THE MINDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. I HAVE THE BLESSING OF SITTING IN THE LAND WHEN WE CONDEMN THE LAND WITH REX ODOM WHO ALL OF THIS WAS, THIS WAS HIS CHILD. HE IS THE ONE THAT WENT TO THE F.A.A. AND GOT THE MONEY HE IS THE ONE THAT DID EVERY BUTT OF F THAT. OUR GOAL NOW ALMOST 42 YEARS AGO WAS TO BUILD AN AIRPORT NEVER SEEN ON THIS SIDE OF THE METRO PLEX. IT HAS THE MOST PERFECT LOCATION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOUR CORNERS.

IF YOU'RE IN AVIATION AND FRANKLY IN FIRE YOU KNOW THIS.

IT'S BEEN SITTING HERE HANDICAPPED NOW FOR 20 YEARS.

WHAT WE HAVE BUILT IS AMOS AND ANDY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, MAYOR, COUNCIL, GET YOU BACK TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINE.

WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN.

IT'S REALLY NOT -- THE PIECE IS I'LL HAVE TWO PLANES IN IT.

IF I WAS RECKLESS WITH THE MONEY, IT WOULDN'T BE MORE THAN 800 GALLONS SO IT NEVER GETS THERE.

THAT IS THE USE. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER USES BEFORE YOU, NOT EVERY CONCEPTUAL PIECE. EVERY AIRPORT IN METRO PLEX IS FIGHTING THIS BATTLE AND HAS BEEN FIGHTING THIS SINCE 2015.

AS THE FIRE GROUP IS TRYING TO BALANCE IT AND GET THE HAND AROUND IT. BURNING AIRPLANE STARTS BURNING AND IF IT'S FULL AND IT STARTS TO MELT THE MAGNESIUM AND THE OTHER PIECES GET THE HELL BACK. SQUIRT WATER ON IT, YOU MAKE IT WORSE. IT'S LIKE MAGNA BLEND OF WAXAHACHIE. FULL IT FULL OF WATER AND THE MINERAL OIL COMES OUT AND BURNS UP THE TRUCK.

I WOULD LIKE TO PAINT THE PICTURE HERE THAT WE HAVE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESSES LIKE MINE CLEAR PATH IN WHICH TO OPERATE.

WE SHOULD HAVEN'T TO COME IN AND GO BACK AND FORTH WITH EVERYONE SAYING WAYNE IS A FIRE GUY FROM WHENEVER AND TED IS AND THIS GUY. THAT IS -- WE SHOULDN'T AIR OUR LAUNDRY OUT THAT WAY. I WANT TO US HAVE GOOD CORPORATE CITIZENS IN THERE. I WANT TO BE OUT OF GRAND PRAIRIE. WE JUST BUILT 30,000 FEET UP THERE. IT HAS FIRE WALLS.

IT MEETS THE CODE. I WANT TO HOPE YOU TO --

>> AMEND IT RATHER THAN SHUT IT DOWN.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WE HAVE PEEKING THE SAME LANGUAGE -- SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE. THERE ARE TWO THINGS I NEED TO MAKE WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN, HAPPEN.

I NEED WRITTEN DIRECTION FROM WAXAHACHIE.

BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE SHARE THIS OVERSIGHT OF THIS AIRPORT.

I NEED WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION FROM WAXAHACHIE SAYING THEY SUPPORT THIS. AND I NEED SOMETHING IN OUR LANGUAGE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WHICH AGAIN WOULD COME FROM WAXAHACHIE OF THAT BUILDING THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN 800 GALLONS MAX CAPACITY AS YOU JUST SAID IN THAT HANGAR EVER.

>> RIGHT. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: AND NOW WE HAVE TALKING A SMALLER RISK. LESS CAPACITY.

WE ARE TALKING NOW IN THE LANGUAGE OF STORAGE THAT DARRELL WAS MENTIONING. ABSOLUTELY.

I'M THERE. BUT I NEED SOME WAXAHACHIE HELP.

>> YOU DO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, RIGHT?

>> YEP. >> YOU HAVE A GUY TO LEASE THE LAND AND EXPECT US TO SPEND MONEY AND GIVE IT BACK TO YOU.

>> VERY MUCH SO. >> Y'ALL HAVE A BUSY NIGHT.

>> MAYOR RENO: I APPRECIATE THE BOARD.

THE AIRPORT BOARD BY THE WAY. AND YOUR INPUT.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK PERSONALLY. YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE UP HERE WITH AVIATION EXPERIENCE. OR MAYBE MORE.

NO. WAYNE, YOU WORKED AT D.F.W.

SO THREE PEOPLE. ANYWAY, THE PROBLEM I HAVE RIGHT NOW IF I MAKE A DECISION AT THIS POINT NOW I'M GOING TO LEAVE MYSELF TO STAFF'S RECOMM RECOMMENDATION.

SO THAT IS A DECISION I HAVE TO MAKE NOW.

TO MAKE ANOTHER DECISION I NEED SOME MORE INPUT AND SOME MORE DISCUSSION. IF Y'ALL ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE THIS TO LATER. THIS DECISION -- BY THE WAY, AGREE THE AIRPORT IS A GEM IN THE ROUGH.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED.

IT HAS TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL. WE SHOULD DO THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO HURT IT.

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WITH STAFF. >> UNDERSTANDING IF THAT BASED ON WHAT WALTER SAID AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD LIKE US TO GO BACK AND GET MORE INFORMATION. IT COULD BE FROM WAXAHACHIE IN THE INSTANCE THAT THE CHIEF HAS BEEN TRYING TO ACQUIRE.

REALLY UNLESS YOU JUST FLAT DENY IT RIGHT NOW AND YOU WANT US TO GO BACK, WE'LL GO BACK AND TALK TO THEM SOME MORE.

AND GET THAT INFORMATION. IF THEY WANT TO PROVIDE IT TO

US. >> MAYOR RENO: I'D LIKE TO SEE COMPARISON WITH THE OTHER AIRPORTS.

HERE IS WHAT OTHER AIRPORTS DO AND HERE IS WHAT THEY DO AND DON'T DO AND WHAT IS COMPARABLE TO US.

I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN A CONTEXT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO THE ONLY DOWN SIDE OR THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THERE IS ONLY SIX CO-OWNED MUNICIPAL AIRPORTS IN

THE UNITED STATES. >> MAYOR RENO: I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL, RELATIVE TO HANGARS, WHAT DO OTHER PEOPLE AROUND HERE DO RELATIVE TO HANGARS WITH AND WITHOUT SPRINKLERS AND HOW THEY ARE USED.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENTS BUT MY POSITION IS I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH STAFF, BARRING OTHER COMPELLING INFORMATION.

>> SO ARE YOU TRYING TO TABLE? >> YES.

>> MAYOR RENO: CONTINUE IT. >> PROVIDE DIRECTION.

GIVE DIRECTION. >> MAYOR RENO: WITH THE DIRECTION -- I AGREE WITH CHRIS. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE COMPARISONS WITH WHAT OTHER AIRPORTS THAT WE ARE COMPETING WITH.

THIS IS ECONOMIC, THIS IS A SAFETY, THIS IS A FUTURE -- THERE ARE SEVERAL POINTS IN THIS DECISION HERE.

DARRELL, COME UP IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING FIRST.

>> MAYOR RENO: I'M SORRY. >> I OUT RANK HIM, RIGHT? I DO OUT RANK HIM, RIGHT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEVER WANTS TO STAND IN THE WAY OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES IN TO PUBLIC SAFETY, PROPERTY SAFETY, FIREFIGHTER SAFETY AND SO THOSE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT I HAVE TO MAKE AND THAT I BRING TO YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR APPROVAL. YOU KNOW AS FAR AS FIREFIGHTING CAPABILITIES AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL THEM HOW TO LAND PLANES OUT THERE AND THEY DON'T NEED TO TELL ME HOW TO FIGHT FIRES OUT THERE.

IF I HAVE 100X100 BUILDING AND I JUST LET IT BURN, THE ONE THAT IS TEN FEET AWAY FROM IT WILL CATCH ON FIRE.

I WON'T STOP IT. SPRINKLER SYSTEMS STOP A CASCADING EFFECT THAT MAY SPREAD TO ANOTHER UNWILLING PARTICIPANT IN TO THEIR PROPERTY. I'M REQUIRED TO PROTECT THEM PROPERTY AS WELL. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE NOT HERE TO STAND IN THE WAY OF SOMEBODY PUTTING IN A HANGAR. WE OPERATE UNDER THE CODES THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED THAT WE BELIEVE SUIT THE CITIZENS OF MIDLOTHIAN THE BEST. I WANT TO ALSO BE CLEAR THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THIS AND THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE, IT'S NOT MY INTENT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN MIDLOTHIAN WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION AND MORE INFORMATION. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A PRECEDENT TO SAY OH, YOU DID IT ON THAT SIDE OF THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S CITY OF WAXAHACHIE. SO THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN WILL DO IT, TOO. I'M THE AUTHORITY OF HAVING THE

JURISDICTION IN MIDLOTHIAN. >> MAYOR RENO: 100%.

>> I'VE BEEN INVOLVED THIS AIRPORT SINCE 2007, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD OF A SPRINKLER SYSTEM SUPPRESSING

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> REASON I ASK TO BE CLEAR TO BRING UP THE MAP, YES, HALF IS IN WAXAHACHIE AND HALF IS IN MIDLOTHIAN. YES, THIS BUILDING SPECIFICALLY THAT IS GOING TO, THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS IN WAXAHACHIE, BUT IRREGARDLESS OF WAXAHACHIE OR MIDLOTHIAN, THAT IS CALLED MID-WAY REGIONAL AIRPORT AND HE IS IN CHARGE OF IT.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE. WHERE IT IS IN THAT DIRT PATCH ALONG THAT BOUNDARY DOESN'T MATTER.

>> CHIEF BOYD AND I HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

AS DEPARTMENTS WE MUTUAL AID WITH EACH OTHER AND WE AUTOMATIC AID WITH EACH OTHER. OUR RELATIONSHIP IS GOOD.

I THINK FOR THEM, THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO YIELD TO US BY THE AGREEMENT. Y'ALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A POLITICAL ELEMENT TO THAT OR NOT. IT'S JUST THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TELLING ME. I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE RESISTING TRYING TO HELP. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS

CLEAR. >> I AGREE WITH WHAT WALTER HAS AND ALSO YOU, MAYOR. I THINK IF WE TABLE THIS NOW, LET'S GET A LETTER FROM WAXAHACHIE ON WHAT IS GOOD WITH

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WE COULD PUT THAT IN AS AIRCRAFT STORAGE ONLY.

LIMITED ON THE GALLONS, PER THE HANGAR SIZE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE AND AGREEABLE WITH EVERYONE AS WELL. JUST EACH HANGAR DEVELOPMENT CONSIDER THIS. THE ONLY THING ON THE NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, I HAVE ISSUE WITH THE FIREWALLS LIKE WALTER SAID. BECAUSE YOU GET T-HANGARS AND WE HAVE ALWAYS PUT ON THE T-HANGAR EVERY 10,000 TO 12,000 SQUARE FOOT WE PUT THE FIRE WALLS TO KEEP IT SEPARATED TO KEEP THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF FIRE BURN WITHIN THAT 10,000 TO 12,000 SQUARE FOOT. I RECOMMEND THAT.

IN THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, IT DOES NOT ALLOW THAT. I THINK IF WE CAN JUST TABLE THIS, LET'S CONSIDER, GET A LETTER FROM THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE. I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND WHEN YOU DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD OR IF YOU DO IS IN THE OCCUPANCY PERMIT TO HAVE IT, THAT IT IS STORAGE ONLY AND MAX GALLON PER AIRCRAFT HANGAR SIZE. ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> MAYOR RENO: JUSTIN? >> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: SPEAK UP QUICKLY. IN ALL DUE RESPECT.

I DON'T CARE WHAT WAXAHACHIE HAS.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR BUILDING CODE.

WE HAVE THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN AND WE HIRED A STAFF TO GUIDE US. I DON'T NEED WE TABLE IT FURTHER. WE STAND BEHIND OUR STAFF.

WE COULD HIRE WAXAHACHIE STAFF. WE HIRED OUR MIDLOTHIAN STAFF.

WE TRUST THE CHIEF AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND WE TRUST OUR PROCESSES. THEY PROBABLY DON'T COME TO US H.R. SUPPORT AND H.R. ADVICE. I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO THEM AFTER TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION. FOR MY OPINION AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'M BEING SHORT. I'M FRUSTRATED BY THE CONVERSATION. I GOT AN EDUCATION AND I DON'T SEE A NEED TO FURTHER DISCUSS IT.

READY TO MOVE ON. >> SECOND THAT.

>> I THINK HE MADE A MOTION. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

>> MAYOR RENO: I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. >> SECOND THAT.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO DENY. SECOND.

I'D STILL LIKE MORE DISCUSSION. THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE STRAIGHTFORWARD DECISION. IT'S A LONG IMPACT DECISION.

TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. I WOULD WANT TO SEE THE JUSTIFICATION ON COMPARABLE AIRPORTS AROUND HERE ABOUT WHAT THEY DO FOR THE HANGAR SPACE. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECONDED. THE MOTION IS TO DENY.

[OVERTALK] >> IT'S TO CONSIDER AND PROVIDE DIRECTION. IT'S AN ACTION ITEM.

SO YOUR ACTION ITEM IS PROVIDE -- WHAT I'M HEARING IS PROVIDING THE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO KEEP IT AT WHAT IT CURRENTLY

IS. >> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: THAT IS MY MOTION. 6,000 FOOT.

>> THE 6,000. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

>> NO AMENDMENT. >> NO AMENDMENTS.

>> MAYOR RENO: SO ARE WE JUST GIVING DIRECTION OR ARE WE

VOTING -- >> WE ARE TELLING THEM WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

IF THEY WANT TO FIND SOMETHING FOR US, OKAY.

>> MAYOR RENO: MAKE A MOTION --

>> THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE YOU. SO YOU ARE MAKING A MOTION TO KEEP THE CODE AT WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS.

>> CORRECT. >> DENYING THE REQUEST TO CHANGE

IT. >> MAYOR RENO: SO THE MOTION TO KEEP THE CODE AS-IS. IF THIS WAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, HOW LONG -- CAN IT COME BACK AND HOW LONG?

>> IT'S NOT A ZONING CASE. NOT ANY TIME FRAME.

>> SO IF YOU PREFER TO TABLE IT SELECT NO.

>> MAYOR RENO: WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE

FLOOR. >> IT'S JUST TO CONSIDER AND PROVIDE DIRECTION. IT'S NOT CONSIDER AND ACT.

WOULDN'T IT VACATE A VOTE. >> ALTERNATIVE IS APPROVE OR DENY. YOU ARE CONSIDERING IT.

SO YOUR DIRECTION IS NOT TO MOVE FORWARD --

>> THIS IS LIKE THE NEVER ENDING AGENDA ITEM.

>> SO STAFF IS ASKING YOU DO YAW WANT TO US MOVE FORWARD AND BRING AN AMENDMENT BACK TO YOU FOR THE CODE.

THAT IS WHAT STAFF IS ASKING. >> ONE LAST THING.

I AM HESITANT TO JUST PUNT THIS BACK DOWN TO A NO BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INCORRECT IN WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

WHAT DARRELL BROUGHT FORTH AS FAR AS T-HANGARS, T-HANGARS HELP THE INDIVIDUAL GUY WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PLANE TRYING TO STORE

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SQUARE FEET. >> MAYOR RENO: HOLD ON.

HOLD ON. I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT. IF WE REQUIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD YOUR HANGAR?

>> NO. WE'LL GO TO GRAND PRAIRIE.

WE JUST BUILT 30,000 FEET THERE. >> MAYOR RENO: OKAY.

SO WE HAVE -- I'M CONFUSED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DO WHAT?

TO APPROVE -- >> TO LEAVE THE CODE ALONE.

>> MAYOR RENO: SO THEN IT'S A MOTION TO DENY.

>> NO -- >> MAYOR RENO: THE REQUEST

WAS -- >> LET ME EXPLAIN.

IN YOUR PACKET, THE AGENDA ITEM YOU HAVE A WRITTEN THAT SAYS EXCEPTION THREE. YOU ARE PROVIDING DIRECTION TO STAFF ON THAT. DO YOU WANT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO INCLUDE THIS EXCEPTION THREE. WHAT THE MOTION WAS, YOU ARE DIRECTING STAFF TO LEAVE THE CODE ALONE NOT TO BRING THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT -- IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE OTHER DISCUSSIONS. WE ARE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THIS AMENDMENT. IT DOESN'T PROINCLUDE YOU HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM AT A LATER DATE.

>> MAYOR RENO: SO THE MOTION IS NOT TO BRING BACK AN

AMENDMENT. >> CORRECT.

>> MAYOR RENO: SO -- >> THIS AMENDMENT.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: TO BE CLEAR WHAT HE IS SAYING IT COULD COME BACK NEXT MONTH AFTER DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AND WE

COULD TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. >> LET ME KNOW WHAT DAY THAT IS.

>> MAYOR RENO: HANG IN THERE, JOE.

WE'RE DENYING THE CHANGE. >> DENYING THE CHANGE.

>> MAYOR RENO: BUT YOU SAY JUSTIN STATED HIS MOTION IN THE

POSITIVE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM COFFMAN: MY MOTION IS TO DENY ANY CHANGE TO OUR CODE.

>> MAYOR RENO: OKAY. SO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> YES. >> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE.

>> WE BROKE THE VOTING SYSTEM. >> NO.

WE ARE WAITING ON SOMEBODY. >> THERE IT IS.

>> MAYOR RENO: THE MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> NOW I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT.

>> YES, SIR. >> I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

CHECK WITH OTHER AIRPORTS. GET MORE INFORMATION.

>> OKAY. >> I'M SURE IT WILL COME AGAIN.

>> COME BACK AND MAYBE IT WOULD GO THEN BUT RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T

HANDLE THE CHANGE. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> IF WE TRY TO CHANGE SOMETHIN- >> MAYOR RENO: ALL RIGHT.

>> WE DIDN'T DO THAT, WE JUST -- >> WE ARE ARGUING THE SAME SIDE

OF THE COIN. >> YEAH, I KNOW.

>> MAYOR RENO: THIS IS ALMOST AS MUCH FUN AS FENCES.

ALL RIGHT. >> -- THEY PULLED 143.

>> MAYOR RENO: THAT IS PULLED? >> YES, SIR.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: IT IS 8:23.

WE WILL TEMPORARILY >> MAYOR RENO: IT IS 8:30.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE OUR COUNCIL SESSION.

WE ARE ON ITEM 2021-144, CONSIDER AND ACT

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MIKE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YOU BRING CIVILITY TO US.

>> THIS IS DEALING WITH THE COST SHARING OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ALONG HAWKINS RUN ROAD AND OTHER FACILITIES TO SERVE THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NUMBER 8 UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THE PLAN TO OPEN BY AUGUST OF 2022.

WE HAVE COST SHARING WHERE MISD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR COSTING THE FOUR LANE OF THE HAWKINS RUN ROAD ALONG THE ROAD FRONTAGE WHERE THE RED STARTS AND THEN TO THE EAST AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S COST. IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT AND PAID FOR BY THE SCHOOL. WITH THE TWO DRIVE APPROACHES OFTEN OF HAWKINS RUN. LEFT TURN LANE INCLUDED THE COST ESTIMATE. THERE IS A RIGHT TURN OR THE DE-SELL LANE AND THE TURN ON 14TH STREET.

THIS IS THE PARENT DROPOFF DRIVE AND LOOP AROUND THE SCHOOL SITE.

WE HAVE THE COST OF THE 12-INCH WATER LINE THAT GETS EXTENDED

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THE TOTAL COST ESTIMATE IS 764,000.

WE ROUND IT UP TO $775,000. WHICH WOULD BE MISD COST.

THIS WAS PRESENTED YESTERDAY AT THE BOARD AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD. TO SO WE HAVE A COPY OF THE SIGNED AGREEMENT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE. >> THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE WHOLE

THING? >> NO, SIR.

JUST ALONG THEIR ROAD FRONTAGE. >> WHAT IS IN ORANGE?

>> YES, SIR. YOU CAN'T SEE THE WATER LINE BUT THERE IS A BLUE WATER LINE AND IT IS ALSO INCLUDED AND IT

INCLUDES SIDEWALK ON THEIR SIDE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TURN LANE ON 14TH STREET. SO THAT PORTION OF 14TH

WOULD STAY FOUR LANES? >> CORRECT.

>> WE DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR A TURN LANE SEPARATE FROM THAT? IT WILL BACK UP 14TH STREET FOR A LONG WAYS.

>> YES, SIR. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE FOUR LANES NOW SO THIS IS GOING IN THE MEDIAN AND DOING THE TURN TO THE MEDIAN. THERE IS A THIRD LANE AND LEFT TURN LANE 500 FEET LONG. WE ARE TIED DOWN WITH WHAT WE HAVE ON THE NEEDIAN ON THE OTHER SIDE TO TURN LEFT TO GO

WESTBOUND ON HAWKINS. >> WHEN PARENTS COME TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN ARE THEY PARKING ON 14TH STREET IN A LONG LINE IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL? OR IS THERE A SEPARATE LANE FOR

THAT? >> ONLY ON THE LEFT LANE.

ONLY THIS SIDE HERE. SOUTHBOUND ON 14TH STREET, THE LEFT TURN LANE HERE FOR THE PARENTS TO QUEUE IN.

THE OTHER THING WE WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON IS TO ALLOW THE GATE THEY WERE GOING TO PUT HERE TO ALLOW PARENTS TO START

QUEUING ALSO WITHIN >> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS: SO

>> COUNCILMAN HARTSON: SO THEY ARE QUEUING ON 14TH STREET?

>> DRIVEWAY IS LOCATED FOUR SOUTH ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTY AS THEY COULD GET IT. IT LINES UP WITH THE DRIVE THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET AS PART OF THE HAWKIN MEADOW.

SO WE HAVE A LANE IF YOU HAVE THE PARENTS QUEUING THAT WILL BE STACKED IN ONE LANE. YOU HAVE A SECOND LANE TO GET THROUGH. NORMALLY WE WOULD DO SOMETHING BUT NOT ON SCHOOL PROPERTY. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY.

THIS IS OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL BOUNDARY AND SOMEONE ELSE'S

PROPERTY TO BUILD THAT LANE. >> DO YOU SEE PROBLEM BECAUSE OF

THE PLANNING? >> WE HAVE CARS QUEUING LIKE IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE HAVE THE FOUR LANES SO YOU CAN GET THROUGH THAT. YOU HAVE IT IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON TIME FOR THE 20, 30 MINUTES.

>> WHERE WILL THE KIDS BE PICKED UP ON THAT PICTURE?

>> YES, SIR. BUS ROUTE AND THE BUS DROP OFF UP FRONT. PARENT ON THE BACK SIDE HERE AND IT COMES AROUND AND COMES AROUND THE BACKSIDE.

>> SO THEY ARE PICKED UP HERE? >> YES, SIR.

>> THERE ARE PLANS FOR A QUEUE OR THEY HAVE A DESIGN ALREADY?

>> YEAH. IF YOU LOOK HERE WITHIN THE SCHOOL, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, YOU CAN STACK HERE AND DOUBLE STACK IN THIS AREA HERE. DOUBLE STACK IN HERE.

IT'S DEPENDING WHERE THE SCHOOL PLACES THE GATE.

THEY WON'T HAVE THE GATE OPENED UNTIL IT IS TIME TO PICK UP.

THEY TALK ABOUT PUTTING THE GATE AS FAR TO THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AND USE AS MUCH QUEUING WITHIN THE SCHOOL SITE AS POSSIBLE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> MAYOR RENO: WILL THE CARS, CAN THEY COME FROM THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH?

>> COMBINATION MAYOR. RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY ARE DISTRICTING. BUT I QUESTIONS THEY PROBABLY KEEP IT CLOSER TO THE HOMES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE SCHOOL HAS DESIGNATED FOR

THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. >> MAYOR RENO: COUNCIL, DO WE

HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

THE PART UP THERE IN ORANGE, NOW THAT IS JUST THE PORTION TO THE WEST OF IT, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION, THE SCHOOL'S PROPERTY IS RIGHT THERE AS WELL, RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. >> WHY DOES THE ORANGE NOT

CONTINUE TO THE INTERSECTION? >> RIGHT NOW THE LANES ARE BUILT TO RIGHT HERE. SO IT ACTUALLY HAS FOUR LANES BUILT AND STOPPED. WHAT WE ARE HAVING TO DO BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WE HAVE TO TAKE THE LANES OUT

AND CURB IT DOWN TO -- >> I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WENT THAT

FAR. >> WE ARE TRYING TO LIMIT.

WE DON'T WANT TO TEAR MORE OUT THAN WE HAVE TO SO WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT IT TO THE TEAR OUT TO MAKE THE TURN.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR RENO: DO WE HAVE A

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MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR RENO: PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU, MIKE.

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>> GOOD EVENING. WELL, AS YOU WILL RECALL IN JANUARY, YOU ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK AND LOOK FOR SERVICES.

WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE THAT WASTE CONNECTIONS COULD NOT CONTINUE TO PERFORM UNDER THE CONTRACT WITHIN A RENEWAL AT THE COST WE HAD. SO WE DID GO OUT AND WE DID -- YOU ALSO ASKED WE GO BACK FOR THE SAME SERVICES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MANUAL COLLECTIONS.

SO WE DID GO OUT AND DO THAT. WE DID SEND THE R.F.P., THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, TO 48 DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS OF THE SERVICES. WE HAD 26 VENDORS WHO ACTUALLY DOWNLOADED THE R. F.P. SPECIFICATIONS.

HOWEVER, AT THE PREBID OR PREPROPOSAL MEETING WE HAD FOUR VENDORS COME TO THAT, OUT OF THAT.

WE DID RECEIVE THREE PROPOSALS AND WE HAD ONE DECLINED QUOTE.

FOR THE SERVICES OF THOSE WHO ATTENDED.

WE HAD PROPOSALS OF WASTE CONNECTION.

FRONTIER WASTE SOLUTIONS AND THE COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL.

REPUBLIC HAD BEEN THE PRIOR, BEFORE THE WASTE CONNECTIONS DECLINE TO QUOTE ON THE BUSINESS.

I HAVE HAD SOME PEOPLE ASK THAT. WE DID HAVE A GROUP OF FOUR EMPLOYEES WHO SAT AND REVIEWED THE PROPOSALS.

WE HAVE AN R.F.P. SCORING TABLE IN YOUR PACKET.

WE LOOKED AT THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE R.F.P. REQUIREMENTS, PAST PERFORMANCE DOING THE SERVICES FOR THE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, THE QUALITY OF THE WORK PLAN THEY PROVIDED.

THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THEY WERE OFFERING WAS INCLUDED THAT.

COMPETENCE OF THE PERSONNEL. AND THEIR MANAGEMENT STAFF AND THE SUPERVISORS AND THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE CONTRACTOR AND A ANOTHER KEY COMPONENT IS THE COST OF THE SERVICE. YOU DO HAVE THE BID TABS INCLUDED THE PACKET AS WELL. WE ONLY HAD ONE VENDOR WHO COMPLIED COMPLETELY WITH THE R.F.P. AS WRITTEN.

THAT WOULD BE WEST CONNECTIONS WHO ARE THE ONES PROVIDING THE SERVICE NOW. WE HAD NO PROPOSAL WITH SERVICE AS PROVIDED THAT MET THE COST THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITHIN AN INCREASE. AND WE HAD IN THE PUBLIC PACKET, ONE PROPOSAL MARKED CONFIDENTIAL.

SO THAT DID NOT GO OUT BUT I UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL DID RECEIVE THOSE CONFIDENTIALLY TO LOOK AT.

THERE WERE TWO ALTERNATIVES THAT WE PROPOSED BUT WHAT HAD BEEN PREFERRED WAS THE MANUAL COLLECTION WITH TWO HAND COLLECTION FOR TRASH PER WEEK. ONE HAND COLLECTION RECYCLE WEEKLY AND TWO BULK WASTE, BRUSH COLLECTIONS TWICE A WEEK.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS ON FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. THEN THERE ALSO IS A SEPARATE TABULATION FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED ON THAT PARTICULAR PAGE WHICH TONNAGE CONTAINER FOR EXAMPLE OR YARD CONTAINER AND WHICH WAS THE LOWEST AND BY FAR IN THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES WASTE CONNECTION WAS THE LOWEST FOR THAT AS WELL.

WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

BUT THE WAY WE HAVE WRITTEN THIS AND OUR PROPOSALS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THE WASTE CONNECTIONS. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO

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THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS THAT ALL THREE OF THE BIDDERS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET AND WE'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE ON SOME OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS.

YOU'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> IF THE CITY MANAGER AND WASTE CONNECTIONS COME TO AN AGREEMENT THEY WILL MAKE THE AGREEMENT OR DOES IT COME TO COUNCIL?

>> THEY WOULD MAKE THE AGREEMENT AND IT WOULD NOT COME BACK.

>> THERE IS A PROPOSED AGREEMENT THAT WENT OUT IN THE SPECIFICATIONS. LOOK AT THE EXCEPTION.

[INAUDIBLE] >> MOST OF THEM ARE VERY MINOR WORDING CHANGES. THERE ARE ONE OR TWO THAT MAYBE MIGHT NOT BE. BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING THAT

WOULD PREVENT THE CONTRACT -- >> WHAT I WORRIED ABOUT WHEN WE SENT THIS OUT TO R.F.P. IF YOU WANT TO GET CITIZENS UPSET, MESS UP THEIR TRASH. IF YOU WANT TO GET E-MAILS MESS UP THEIR TRASH. I'M GLAD THAT THE WASTE CONNECTIONS CAME BACK AND IS THE ONE WE ARE POTENTIALLY

NEGOTIATING WITH. >> IT MAKES IT EASIER BECAUSE WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SYKES, THE PICKUP ROUTES AND YOU WON'T HAVE

TO CHANGE BINS. >> IF CHANGEOVER WOULD T BE

DIFFICULT. >> WE DID IT FIVE YEARS AGO.

A LOT OF E-MAILS. >> THEY CHANGED A SYSTEM FOR SOMEBODY THAT HAD 20 YEARS AND SOMEONE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLIES OR TRUCKS OR PEOPLE FOR A YEAR.

THERE WAS CONSTANT CALLS ABOUT ONCE A WEEK.

THEY HAVEN'T PICKED UP MY TRASH. NOW IT'S DOWN TO THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FIVE NOW, EVERYBODY IS PRETTY MUCH GOTTEN BACK USED TO HAVING SOMEBODY DO IT ON THE CONSTANT.

IT'S NICE TO HAVE. PRICES GOING UP BUT DIESEL FUEL IS THREE TIMES WHAT IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO.

LABOR IS HARD TO FIND $15 TO $18 AN HOUR WORK IN THE BACK OF A

TRUCK. >> I HAVE ONE COMMENT.

I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. MY ONLY CAVEAT IS IF WE COULD JUST, THE EXCEPTIONS LISTED IN THE WASTE CONNECTIONS CONTRACT LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY -- I SPOKE TO CLYDE ABOUT IT.

SECTION 9.9 ADJUSTMENT AND THE ARTICLE 10 ADJUSTMENT.

IF WE COULD JUST -- I WASN'T PRIVY TO THE EXISTING CONTRACT SO I COULDN'T SEE HOW IT WAS WRITTEN NOW.

BUT THE WAY THE SECTIONS ARE WORDED 9.9, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE 100% ON CLEAR WHAT THEY MEANT BY THAT.

WHAT IT GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY TO DO.

>> IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONTAMINATION OF THE RECYCLING SO I WILL SAY HAVING DEALT WITH THE CONTRACTS FOR 20 YEARS NOW, IF YOU HAVE A RECYCLABLE MATERIAL AND YOU PUT IT IN THEIR DIRTY FOR EXAMPLE. LIKE A USED PIZZA BOX.

>> SURE. >> IT WILL CONTAMINATE THE WHOLE LOAD. SO I'M --

>> AGREED. >> THEY CAN CLARIFY IT WHEN WE DO NEGOTIATIONS BUT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. BUT THE CONCERN I HAD WAS SPECIFICALLY THE CONTAMINATION OF YOUR RECYCLABLE MATERIALS BY SOMETHING LIKE A PIZZA BOX. WITH THAT LANGUAGE INTERPRETED IN THE BASIC SENSE OF THE -- THEY COULD REFUSE THE ENTIRE FOR

>> IT DOES THE REQUIRE. >> SO IF YOU PUT YOUR RECYCLING AND THE TRASH INSTEAD OF THROWING RECYCLING TO THE TRASH, THEY COULD REFUSE TO PICK IT ALL UP.

>> THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE MARKED TO TALK ABOUT.

>> THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE THING I SAW I DIDN'T, I THOUGHT WE

SHOULD ADDRESS. >> YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD NOT PICK UP TRASH BECAUSE THE RECYCLABLES WERE CONTAMINATED.

>> IT'S ON A DIFFERENT DAY. WHATEVER RECYCLING IS

CONTAMINATED. >> RIGHT.

>> LEAVE THAT. >> BUT THAT IS AN ASSUMPTION WE ARE MAKING AT THIS POINT. WE'LL CLARIFY.

>> THAT IS MY ONLY THING. >> YEAH.

>> MAYOR RENO: COUNCIL, MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.

ITEM PASSES. ITEM 2021-146, CONSIDER AND ACT

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>> GOOD EVENING. BEFORE YOU IS THE NEXT UTILITY PACKAGE PROJECT WE ARE DOING THAT WAS DETERMINED IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING. I CAN GO OVER A QUICK LIST REAL

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DAY SERVICE WE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THEY FOLLOWUP ON THEIR WORK. WE MONITOR IT AT ALL TIMES.

>> IS IT IN THE BUDGET? >> IT WAS.

>> FROM THE UTILITY FUND? >> CORRECT.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. >> MAYOR RENO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

GENTLEMEN, WE ARE GETTING CLOSE. HOLD ON.

[LAUGHTER] ITEM 2021-147, CONSIDER AND

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THE CENTER. >> GOOD EVENING.

THIS AN ITEM THAT CAME FORWARD AS WE WENT THROUGH STRATEGIC PLANNING PROJECT WITH THE JOINT SESSION OF COUNCIL AND PART OF THAT PROCESS WE TALK ABOUT THE MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER. AND WE FELT IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND UPDATE THE COUNCIL.

AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT FACILITY.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURES HERE OF THE CENTER.

THEN ALSO THE STRATEGIC PLAN I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, IN 2005, NAVARRO COLLEGE BUILT THE FIRST BUILDING IN THE AREA. ONE THING THAT MADE THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IS THAT MOST COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAX. NAVARRO COLLEGE DOES NOT COLLECT A PROPERTY TAX IN ELLIS COUNTY. SO THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO, YOU KNOW, OBTAIN FUNDING FOR THEIR FACILITIES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO IN 2005 THE CITY AND NAVARRO CAME TOGETHER AND THERE WAS A PARTNERSHIP THAT PUT IN PLACE THE CAMPUS IN CONNECTION TO THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND THE HOTEL WE HAVE OUT THERE. WHERE THEY ALLOCATED 20 ACRES FOR THE MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER.

AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST BUILDING.

A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, IN 2009, EVERYBODY CAME BACK TOGETHER AND THE MIDLOTHIAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SECOND BUILDING.

ULTIMATELY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR AREA RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE ACCESS TO HIGHER EDUCATION.

COMMUNITY COLLEGE PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN REALLY THE FIRST STEP IN CONNECTING PEOPLE FROM HIGH SCHOOL IN TO SECONDARY EDUCATION. SO, IF WE GO A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT, IN 2011. THERE WAS ANOTHER KEY PARTNERSHIP THAT CAME TOGETHER. IN 2011, MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER HAD FOUR DIFFERENT EDUCATION PARTNERS THAT CAME TOGETHER. AND THE STATE'S HIGHER EDUCATION BOARD APPROVED WHAT IS CALLED A MITSI AGREEMENT.

IT STANDS FOR MULTI-INSTITUTIONAL TEACHING CENTER. THAT ULTIMATELY ALLOWS FOR A PARTNERSHIP OF THE DIFFERENT HIGHER EDUCATION GROUPS TO COME TOGETHER AND OFFER SECONDARY EDUCATION OR POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION IN THE COMMUNITY. THE PARTNERS WERE NAVARRO COLLEGE WHO WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD TEACH ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE FRESHMAN AND THE SOPHOMORE LEVEL COURSES.

TO EARN THE ASSOCIATES DEGREE. THEN THERE WERE THREE UNIVERSITIES ULTIMATELY CAME ON. THOSE BEING TARLETON, STATE UNIVERSITY, UNT DALLAS AND TEXAS A&M COMMERCE.

FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TEXAS A&M COMMERCE HAS NOT TAUGHT ANY PROGRAMS AT THE MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER. U.N.T. DALLAS HAVE NOT BUT THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COMING BACK THIS FALL TO TEACH ADDITIONAL COURSES IN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR

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SO ULTIMATELY, THROUGH THE MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER. A PARTNERSHIP TO ALLOW THE COURSES TO BE TAUGHT HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN.

BETWEEN THAT TIME AND TODAY, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE ENROLLMENT HAS REMAINED FLAT. AND IN PART, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO HAS CHANGED THAT HAS BEEN DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IS THAT THE DUAL CREDIT THAT IS CURRENTLY TAUGHT BETWEEN NAVARRO AND MIDLOTHIAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, ORIGINALLY THOSE COURSES WERE PLAN TO BE TAUGHT AT THE HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER SO THERE WAS A NEED FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE. THERE WERE SOME CHANGES AND ULTIMATELY THOSE COURSES ARE BEING TAUGHT AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW, OUR PARTNERS WERE COMING TOGETHER AND TRULY WE ARE FACING A CHALLENGE OF STAGNANT ENROLLMENT AT THE CAMPUS AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO ULTIMATELY BRING BACK THE PARTNERS TOGETHER, RE-EVALUATE AND LOOK AT THAT AGREEMENT AND THE COURSES THAT ARE BEING TAUGHT? AND YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY HOW CAN WE GROW ENROLLMENT TO HELP THOSE PROGRAMS TO BE STRONGER? AS IT STANDS TODAY. THE GROUP OF MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER PARTNERS, WE MEET QUARTERLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING IS WE HAVE INVITED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO WILL NOW HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THERE WHO WILL HELP PROVIDE INPUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TEACHING RIGHT COURSES THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT PATH FORWARD THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

ALSO, ONE OF THE THING WE COMMITTED TO IS REINFORCE AND UPDATE THE WORKFORCE STUDY TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT OUR RESIDENTS AND WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR JOBS.

ALSO IT WILL LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO WORK IN MIDLOTHIAN WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME WORKFORCE AND REALLY IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENT SKILLS. THEN THE LAST THING IS REALLY IDENTIFYING HEY, WHAT ARE THE FUTURE JOBS THAT WE NEED TO BE TRAINING FOR WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? ULTIMATELY OUR PARTNERS ARE COMING BACK TOGETHER WITH THE WORKFORCE REPORT AND WE WILL BE AUTOMBE -- ABLE TO UPDATE THE PO ENSURE WE ARE TEACHING THE RIGHT COURSES.

THAT IN PART WILL HELP DRIVE ENROLLMENT.

THE OTHER OBVIOUS THING IS THAT WE NEED TO BETTER PROMOTE THE CENTER. SO ONE OF THE OTHER KEY THINGS WE ARE DOING IS WORKING TOGETHER ON THE PROMOTIONAL EFFORTS TO HELP DRIVE ENROLLMENT. THE LAST THING, YOU KNOW, TRULY, I KNOW A FEW OF YOU HAVE HAD CONNECTIONS AND THE PERSONAL CONNECTIONS WITH THAT CENTER. YOU KNOW ULTIMATELY WE NEED THE COMMUNITY, WE NEED OUR LEADERSHIP TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND VISIT THE FACILITY. WE ARE WORKING WITH NAVARRO AND TARLETON WHO ARE THERE AND WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A TOUR THAT WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT TO.

AT THAT TIME WE WILL HAVE OFFICIAL INPUT ON THE WORKFORCE REPORT WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH TO CONDUCT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL HELP US ONE MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEED IS. AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO HELP US AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO BETTER PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, THE MIDLOTHIAN HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER.

WHICH WILL ALLOW OUR PARTNERS TO SUCCEED.

IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THAT SOMETHING WILL CHANGE IF WE CONTINUE ON THE SAME PATH THAT WE ARE. WE BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING.

EACH OF THE PARTNERS AT THE COLLEGE THAT WE HAVE, THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THIS. SO, REALLY WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE. AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE OF THE CENTER.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU? >> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DRAWING THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER BUILDINGS THAT CAN FIT ON THE CENTER.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE NOT UTILIZING THE EXISTING CAMPUS AS IT IS.

THE OTHER THING IS JUST AS THE COVID CHANGED OUR, THE WAY WE WORK, IT'S COMPLETELY CHANGED YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE DO SCHOOL.

AND PEOPLE TAKING COURSES ONLINE.

THAT WILL PLAY IN TO IT. ONE THING AS WE LOOK AT THE MITCE AGREEMENT, WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO ENSURE THAT MIDLOTHIAN CONTINUES A PLACE OF HIGHER EDUCATION? WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS AND HOW CAN WE POSITION THAT ASSET IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY ULTIMATELY HAS THE RESOURCES? IN THE SHORT-TERM THE FOCUS IS ON BETTER UTILIZING THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.

BUT IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE EXPANSION AND THE NEED

FOR THOSE. >> MAYOR RENO: WHAT WILL UNT BRING TO THE TABLE? WHAT PROGRAMS?

>> SO WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED IS THEY WILL BRING IN THEIR BACHELOR PROGRAMS FOR TEACHERS. SO EDUCATION PROGRAMS.

>> MAYOR RENO: ALL FOUR YEARS OR WILL IT BE SOME HERE AND --

>> THE WAY THAT ALL THE PROGRAMS WORK TO MY UNDERSTANDING IS NAVARRO COLLEGE PROVIDE LOWER LEVEL COURSES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR REALLY THE FRESHMAN AND THE SOPHOMORE YEAR AND THEN THE JUNIOR AND SENIOR LEVEL COURSES CAN HAPPEN HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF DAY ONE THEY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE ENTIRE PROGRAM HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN OR IF IT'S A COMBINATION OF IN MIDLOTHIAN AND ALSO ONLINE?

>> MAYOR RENO: IS A&M COMMERCE STILL A PARTNER?

>> SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN THE AGREEMENT.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT TARLETON AND A&M COMMERCE FALL UNDER THE SAME SYSTEM. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AS THOSE INSTITUTIONS HAVE KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, COVERED DIFFERENT TERRITORIES. CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT TEACHING COURSES AT THE CAMPUS. THERE IS NO CURRENT DISCUSSIONS

THAT I'M AWARE OF. >> MAYOR RENO: WHY DID A&M

COMMERCE LEAVE? >> I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT SURE. >> MAYOR RENO: THEY HAVE AN A&M SYSTEM, THEY ARE DESIGNATED IN THE TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM.

I SAID THIS BEFORE. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD. I THINK IT WOULD FIT.

YOUR SURVEY WILL SHOW THIS. COUNCIL, Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> DO YOU KNOW IS THE ENROLLMENT AT THE WAXAHACHIE CAMPUS, IS THAT FLAT AS WELL?

>> SO, THE INFORMATION WE ARE GIVEN IS NAVARRO WHO IS THE PROVIDER IN WAXAHACHIE. THEY ARE SEEING SIMILAR ENROLLMENT. WHICH THEY HAVE SEEN DECREASE IN ENROLLMENT OVER THE LAST YEAR AS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH COVID.

WE COULD PROVIDE A FOLLOWUP TO DO A SPECIFIC COMPARISON BETWEEN EACH OF THE CAMPUSES IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> AT ONE TIME NAVARRO WAS TALKING OF GOING TO FOUR YEARS THEMSELVES. WHAT IS THE STATUS ON THAT?

>> SO THEY HAVE A FROM POSE SAL THAT WOULD REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL -- PROPOSAL THAT WOULD REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL.

THEM AND OTHER COLLEGES. IDENTIFIEDED IN OUR MEMO THAT IS WHERE IT CREATES CONFLICT WITH THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN AND NAVARRO COLLEGE. AS WE HAVE THE COMMITMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THE FOUR-YEAR PROGRAMS HAPPEN HERE.

ULTIMATELY WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH EACH OF THE PAR PARTNERS.

I THINK THAT NOW IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY REPOSITION AND IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED AS MIDLOTHIAN.

MY OPINION WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THE PARTNERS ARE SUCCESSFUL SO THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN.

THE OTHER THING TO REALLY KEEP IN MIND AS IT COMES TO WORKFORCE WORKFORCE AND EMPLOYEES DON'T ALWAYS SEE CITY BOUNDARIES.

THEY WILL COME FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY HERE.

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IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOT US WHERE WE ARE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE

FUTURE. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE. I DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS IN THE I.S.D. WHAT HAVE IS MISD'S ROLE IN MAKING OR HELPING IMPROVE THE SITUATION OUT HERE?

>> SO, ULTIMATELY MIDLOTHIAN I.S.D. IS NOT A PARTY TO THE, TO THE AGREEMENTS. BUT THEY DO PLAY A KEY ROLE.

MISD, THE FOCUS IS UP THROUGH THE SENIOR YEAR K-12 TO GET PROGRAMS. AS WE WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WORKFORCE PIPELINES.

THAT WE ARE CREATING OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO SUCCEED. SO THOUGH THEY ARE NOT A PARTY TO THE AGREEMENT THEY ARE A COMMUNITY PARTNER IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. SO THAT IS WHERE AS WE REVISIT WITH MISD ABOUT THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT LEADS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

THERE IS A CROSSOVER WITH THE DUAL CREDIT PROGRAMS THEY ARE DOING. SO THAT WOULD BE THE PORTION OF THE OVERLAP. YOU KNOW, REALLY HAS IT EXTENDS BEYOND, IT STARTS TO MOVE OUT OF THEIR FOCUS.

>> THEY ARE HEAVILY PUSHING THE DUAL CREDIT FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHICH IS GREAT. A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE KIDS. I ASSUME BECAUSE OF THAT MIDLOTHIAN HIGH AND HERITAGE SERVE AS A FEEDER TO THE

PROGRAM. >> YEAH.

>> I KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN FOR MY DAUGHTER.

>> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

IF WE CAN FIND A WAY,FY F THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY SUPER HIGH UP ON THAT IDEA, IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO NURTURE THAT WITH MISD --

>> CHALLENGES WITH THE COVID AND SCHOOL SECURITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT PUT A WRINKLE IN THINGS BUT IT'S THE ORIGINAL, BOTH INSTITUTE IS THE ORIGINAL INTENT TO BE A CATALYST FOR EDUCATION.

>> MAYOR RENO: THANK YOU. NO ACTION TO TAKE ON THIS ITEM.

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APPROXIMATELY 58 ACRES OF LAN >> THE POWER POINT.

IT SHOULD BE THE SAME ONE. IT WAS THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> WE PUT THEM IN THE SAME POWER POINT.

THERE WE GO. >> THE NEXT POWER POINT.

>> YES. VERY QUICK.

AS MENTIONED BY THE MAYOR EARLIER, THE ITEM THAT WE ARE COMING BEFORE TODAY IS THE SALE OF THE REMAINDER OF THE MIDLOTHIAN BUSINESS PARK. WE HAVE HAD SOME CHANGES WITH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTS WHICH HAVE FREED UP SPECIFICALLY LOT TWO BLOCK "B." SO THIS MAP THAT YOU SEE TODAY, THAT IS THE CURRENT STA CUSS OF TODAY.

WHAT WE ARE COMING FORWARD TODAY IS PURCHASE AND SALE FOR PROVIDENT REALTY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT YOU HAVE WOULD CONSTRUCT TWO 150,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITIES ON LOT 2, BLOCK "B." THE REASON THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE MIDLOTHIAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS SO MANY OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE OUT LOOKING FOR SPACE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PLAN AND BUILD THEIR OWN FACILITY.

THERE IS A LOWER COST TO BEING ABLE TO LEASE A FACILITY.

WHAT IS KNOWN AS A "MULTI-TENANT BUILDING." SO PROVIDENT WOULD COME ON AS A PARTNER TO BUILD THE SPACE.

THE REQUEST IS TO PURCHASE THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY TO GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO THE

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WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY HAVE THE TYPE OF THE PARTNER THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TO GO OUT AND TO BUILD UPON THE ZONING REGULATION AND THE C.C.R.S WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE FOR THE PROPERTY.

THEY ARE RIGHT THERE WITH THE QUALITY WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE 75-DAY REVIEW PERIOD AFTER WHICH THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD TO A FIRM PERIOD WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BRING FORWARD THOSE BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO CLOSE. THE FAME DATE THEY HAVE TO CLOSE BY IS BY NOVEMBER 4 OR EARLIER. WITH THAT THE MIDLOTHIAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD MET MARCH 15 AND THEY VOTED TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PROGRAM AND THE EXPENDITURE. THE VOTE WAS 7-0 IN FAIR.

ANY QU -- VOTE 7-0 IN FAVOR. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I SAW THIS IS 108,000, $900 PER ACRE MINUS THE FLOOD PAYNE, 45. WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER?

>> $4.9 MILLION. JUST OVER $4.9 MILLION.

THE ONLY REASON IT MAY ADJUST IS WE ARE CHARGING PER NET SO WE TAKE OUT THE FLOODPLAIN. WHEN WE COME BACK.

AND IF IT'S SLEETLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAD, THAT IS THE

PURCHASE. >> GREAT.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MAYOR RENO: MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. I VOTED YES.

[LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU.

>> THE RED BUTTON IS THE NO, MAYOR.

I PRESSED THE YES BUTTON THERE. [LAUGHTER] MY APOLOGIES. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

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>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL. THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU.

WHEN WE CONSTRUCTED LEDGESTONE LANE THERE BY THE -- I FORGET THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL. DIETRICK.

THANK YOU. DIETRICH.

WE HAD IT END UP ON THE 34-ACRE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY.

I BELIEVE WE CAME ON IT BY A SWAP OF LAND WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. IS THAT CORRECT? AS OF THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT PROGRAMMED THAT PLOT OF LAND.

BUT FROM THE EXCESS SPOILS, THE DEVELOPER SOMERCREST NORTH OF THERE NEEDS SOIL. THIS WOULD PROVIDE THEM WITH SOIL FROM THE PROPERTY. IN EXCHANGE FOR THE 40 HARDWOOD TREES. 20.

SORRY. 20 HARDWOOD TREES AND MILE WORTH OF TRAIL ON THAT AREA. WE DON'T HAVE THE SLIDES THERE.

I'M SORRY. IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR AGENDA THERE IS THE OUTLINE OF THE 34-ACRE TRACT.

SECOND THE TOPOGRAPHICAL RENDERING WHERE THEY TAKE IT FROM. WHAT THEY WILL DO IS GET THAT FLAT LEVEL WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

SO, ADJOINING THE PROPERTY, THEY WILL TAKE IT FROM THE 715 TO 710. REMOVING 4.48 FEET OF THE SOIL.

THAT IS TO THE SOUTH SIDE. SO WHAT THEY WILL DO IS TAKE THE AREA AND MAKE IT FLAT. THAT WILL PROVIDE THE DIRT FOR SOMEERSETH UP NORTH. THIS -- SOMERSET UP NORTH.

THIS IS LICENSE AGREEMENT. I'LL ADDRESS QUESTION.

>> ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT IT, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DIRT.

IF THEY DON'T GET THAT, THEY HAVE TO HAUL IT IN.

>> YES, SIR. >> TO THE TUNE OF 140 18-WHEELER

LOADS OF DURT. >> YES.

>> THAT WILL KEEP 140 TRUCKS OFF THE ROAD.

>> YES, SIR. VERY CORRECT.

>> SO THAW ARE GOING TO PUT IN TREES AND TRAIL?

>> MILE WORTH OF THE TRAIL. >> WE SAW "TRAIL" IS THAT

CONCRETE? >> NO.

IT'S DIRT. THEY WILL CLEAR THE -- IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND IF YOU DRIVEN ON LEDGESTONE LANE --

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>> MOUNTAINBACK TRAIL. >> THIS IS NATURE PARK?

>> YEAH. BASICALLY.

WE ARE NOT CALLING IT A PARK. IT THROWS THE LAND IN QUESTION.

SO IT'S A I NATURE AREA FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

HEATHER LOOK TO PROGRAM THIS. THERE IS GOOD POSSIBILITIES OUT THERE. NATIVE PLANTS.

IF YOU GO OUT THERE IF YOU ARE DRIVING ALONG THERE IS A BIG SCAR ON THERE. THAT IS THEM BRINGING THE SEWER OVER TO THE MANHOLE ON LEDGESTONE LANE.

MIKE IS NOT HERE. SEAN, DID YOU INSTALL THAT SEWER

ALREADY? >> NOT YET.

>> OKAY. THE SCAR IS WHERE THE SEWER WILL GO. THEY WILL HAVE THE EXCESS SOIL

FROM THAT THEY WILL UTILIZE. >> MAYOR RENO: NATURE AREA.

IS THIS A PERMANENT DESIGNATION? >> NO, SIR.

>> MAYOR RENO: TEMPORARY? >> YES.

WHEN WE CALL IT A "PARK" OR CALL IT SOMETHING, I MEAN IT THROWS IT IN TO SOME DIFFICULTIES OF US DOING ANYTHING WITH IT IN THE

FUTURE. >> TREES ARE PLANTED ALONG THE

PATH? >> OR ALONG LEDGESTONE LANE.

YES, SIR. >> MAYOR RENO: WHAT ARE THE

POSSIBLE USAGE, FUTURE USE? >> MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL.

OR JUST A NATURE TRAIL. OR THE SCHOOL MIGHT BUY IT OR ANOTHER FOOTBALL OR BAUBLE FIELD.

I'M MAKING ALL THIS UP. YOU DON'T KNOW.

THERE IS NO TELLING. >> IT COULD BE USED FOR

ANYTHING. >> YES, SIR.

THAT IS WHY WE DON'T WANT TO CALL IT ANYTHING.

>> QUICK QUESTION. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THEY WANT THE RIGHTS TO THE SPOILS THAT WERE PLACED ON THE LOT.

>> THEY WANT THE RIGHT TO THE 16,000 CUBIC YARD AND THE

MAJORITY OF THAT IS THE SPOILS. >> COUNCILMAN DARRACH: SO BASICALLY WE ARE NOT SAYING WE EXCAVATING THAT OUT OR THERE --

>> THEY WILL DO ALL THE EXCAVATION.

WHAT THE EXCAVATION, IT'S A MISNOMER.

WE HAD SPOILS ON THERE FROM LEDGESTONE LANE.

>> AGREED. ALL I'M SAYING IS AS LONG AS WE

DON'T HAVE A HOLE. >> NO.

NO. NO.

>> I GET THERE IS EXCESS PUT THERE.

BUT WE GET THROUGH THE EXCESS IN TO --

>> THEY WILL TAKE IT BACK TO THE NATIVE GRADE AND NATIVE GRASS.

AND EVERYTHING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, THERE IS AN AREA WITH TOPO GRAPHIC THINGS ON IT.

THAT IS FLAT, BASICALLY. >> IT COULD BE MOUNTAIN TRAILS

IT WILL HAVE TO GO UP AND DOWN. >> THAT LAND IS VERY HILLY.

>> YES. >> MAYOR RENO: IT WON'T BE

FLAT. >> NO.

>> GREAT. CAN I MAKE A MOTION?

>> YEP. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. >> QUICKEST ONE WAS THE LAST

ONE. >> MAYOR RENO: YEAH.

THE OTHER ONE WAS FAST, TOO. THE COUNTY WILL CONVENE -- OKAY.

[Executive Session]

CLYDE? THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE FOLLOWING SECTION OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SECTION 551.072 REA ESTATE. SOUTH GROVE RIGHT-OF.

AND

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