Jul 11, 2023 City Council

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>> GOOD EVENING IT IS 6:00 P.M. ON TUESDAY, JULY 11. I DO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF MIDLOTHIAN TO ORDER. WE BEGIN TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH

INDICATION AND PLEDGES BY COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOORMAN. >> BOW WITH ME.

LORD WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE THIS EVENING. WE HONOR YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE AND LOVE. JUST PRAY THAT TONIGHT YOU GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS TO REPRESENT FOLKS WELL AND CONTINUE TO BLESS THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY WE LIVE IN. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE. IN CHRIST NAME AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG ONE STATE

UNDER GOD AND NE INDIVISIBLE. >> WE START OFF TONIGHT WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2023-242

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WHEREAS THESE ELLIS COUNTY AMATEUR RADIO EMERGENCY SERVICES AND AMATEUR OPERATORS LIVE AND WORK IN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN AND ELLIS COUNTY AND PROVIDE AMATEUR RADIO COMMUNICATIONS AS COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS. WHEREAS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND MIDLOTHIAN POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICE OF EMERGING MANAGEMENT ORGANIZES VALUABLE COMMUNICATION SERVICES PROVIDING STORMS SPOTTING, STORM REPORTS AND CRITICAL MEDICATIONS FOR EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS AND WHERE AS THE SAME AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS HAVE FURTHER DEMONSTRATED THEIR VALUE IN PROVIDING PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WITH FREE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS DURING COMMUNITY EVENTS SUCH AS PARADES, MICROPHONES, WALK BONDS, COMMUNITY FAIRS AND OTHER CHARITABLE PUBLIC EVENTS WHEREAS THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN RECOGNIZES AND APPRECIATES THE DILIGENCE OF THE RADIO OPERATORS ALWAYS KNOWN AS HAMS WHO ALSO SERVE AS WEATHER SPOTTERS FOR THE SKY WARM PROGRAM OF NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. WITH THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN AND ELLIS COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WHEREAS THE AMERICAN RADIO RELAY LEAGUE IS NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR AMATEUR RADIO IN THE UNITED STATES AND WHEREAS THE AMATEUR RADIO FIELD EXERCISE TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 24 AND 25TH 2023 AT MIDLOTHIAN ISD MULTIPURPOSE STADIUM. 24 HOUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS EXERCISE AND DEMONSTRATION FOR THE AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS AND READINESS TO PROVIDE SELF-SUPPORTING COMMUNICATIONS WITHOUT FURTHER INFRASTRUCTURE BEING REQUIRED. NOW THEREFORE I MAYOR JUSTIN COFFMAN MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN RECOGNIZED ELLIS COUNTY AMATEUR RADIO EMERGENCY SERVICES AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON A SUCCESSFUL AMATEUR RADIO WEEK HELD JUNE 24 TO JULY 1 IN THE CITY OF HIAN. COMMUNITY SERVICE COMES IN MANY FORMS AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR

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[CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION WITHOUT SEPARATE DISCUSSION. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. COUNSEL DOES ANYBODY WISH TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? > 248. COOKS REMOVING ITEM NUMBER 248 ANY OTHER ITEMS OUNSEL.

WITHOUT ACCEPT A ON. MOVE TO O APPROVE. MOTION TO PPROVE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM NUMBER 248 AND SECOND. PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTE.

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>> WHAT WE'VE DONE IS AS OUR BUDGET CONTINUES TO GROW WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR MORE DIRECTION FROM THE PUBLIC AND WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR OUR BOARD GOING FORWARD.

LIKE WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DID HE REACHED OUT TO A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY TO POKE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY COUNCIL SO WE CAN GET A SPECIFIC PLAN TO OUR BOARD ON HOW WE ARE SPENDING MONEY GOING FORWARD. AND THEY CAN WRITE US PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD. THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON AND WHAT THE PUBLIC

IS EXPECTING FROM YOU AS A GROUP. >> COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS?

>> HAVE YOU GUYS REACHED OUT TO ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND ASKED THEM FOR THEIR STRATEGIC

PLANS TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT KNOWLEDGE? >> I RESEARCHED THE FIVE YEAR PLANS THAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BUT I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO ANY OF THEM AND I'M SCHEDULED TO GO SIT DOWN WITH MCKINNEY IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND SPEAK WITH THEM AS

WELL. >> GO AHEAD. >> YOU ARE ONLINE TO SPEND HOW MUCH AGAIN? 74,000. YOUR GOAL WITH THIS IS WHAT

AGAIN? >> COME UP WITH A PLAN. WE ALL HAVE PLANS THE PARK HAS A STEADY PLAN. OUR BOARD DOES NOT HAVE A WRITTEN PLAN WHERE YOU WENT TO THE PROCESS OF CREATING A PROFESSIONAL PLAN THAT GIVES DIRECTION TO THE BOARD.

WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH LESS MONEY IT WAS OKAY BECAUSE YOU COULD COME UP WITH PROJECTS AND OUT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR MORE AS THE MONEY IS GETTING LARGER. HOW DO YOU MAKE THE MOST IMPACT ON THAT MONEY.

IT IS TO BRING IN SOMEONE TO DO THAT PLAN. SO WE HAVE TARGETED THIS IS WHAT YOUR FIRST PRIORITY IS BASED ON WHAT THE CITIZENS SAY AND WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS AND THE PARKS BOARD. THE PUBLIC YOU WANT ALL THESE PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK SO YOU HAVE A DETAILED PLAN. RIGHT NOW WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT.

>> I GUESS WHAT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH IS YOU LOOKING AT SPENDING $75,000 ESSENTIALLY TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO GO OUT AND ASK THE CITIZENS QUESTIONS. WHY CAN'T WE PUT TOGETHER A POLE AND SEND IT TO THE CITIZENS FOR A SMALL FRACTION OF THIS AND OBTAIN THE SAME INFORMATION: CAN UTILIZE SHARED INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

IF WE REACH OUT THERE WILLING TO HELP US THEY ARE WILLING TO SHARE NOWLEDGE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO SPEND THIS TO GET A CONSULTANT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HANDY

ONE OF THOSE PRE-PLANS THEY'VE GIVEN SOMEBODY ELSE. >> JUST A POINT ON THAT IS THAT

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WE HAVE ALL THESE PLANS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO YOUR POINT BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TAKE ALL THOSE PLANS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE FIT AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE RPF WAS REQUESTED. WE ARE NOT ASKING THEM TO COME IN AND DO A LOT OF POLES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE ASKED THEM TO COME AND TAKE THE PLANS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE FIT IN THAT. TO YOUR POINT OF THE 75,000 I WAS SHOCKED AT THAT NUMBER. IT IS DOUBLE WHAT IT COST THEM. WE'VE ASKED FOR LESS WORK BUT

SINCE COVID-19 EVERYTHING EXPONENTIALLY CAUSE MORE. >> THIS IS THE CHEAPEST.

YOU ARE PAYING FOR A LEVEL OR EXPERTISE THAT COMES WITH WAY MORE THAN POLLING CITIZENS WE

ARE PAYING FOR SOMEONE TO GIVE ADVICE. >> I HAVE GONE BACK AND READ THE FIVE YEAR PLANS THEY CREATED FOR OTHER PEOPLE. SPECIFICALLY TAIPEI TO ENSURE THAT WE DO NOT GET THAT TEMPLATE. WE HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A TEMPLATE. WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOU TO COME AND SIT DOWN WITH YOU GUYS AND SAY THESE ARE THE PLANS IN PLACE, HOW DO WE PULL THEM TOGETHER AND GET THEM FUNDED. WAX IS THERE A TIMELINE RIGHT NOW THAT REQUIRES THIS TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT 30, 60 DAYS OR CAN WE PUT SOME OF THE OTHER EFFORTS YOU ARE PLANNING TO DO

FIRST AND IF WE STILL NEED IT GO BACK AND DO THIS? >> WE ARE NOT ON A TIME CRUNCH OTHER THAN WE WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED AND MAKE SURE THE FUNDS YOU ENTRUSTED US WITH OUR USED

TO THE BEST WAY. >> I WILL MAKE THE COMMENT HAVING SAT THROUGH MORE BOARD MEETINGS THAT ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM OTHER THAN ALLEN THIS IS A MUCH-NEEDED ING.

IN ORDER TO O GIVE THE BOARD CLEAR DIRECTION FOR NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE.

I WAS EXCITED TO SEE IT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. >> THIS IS SOMETHING A LONG TIME COMING. I WILL NEVER LOOK AT IT AS A BAD THING TO GET ORGANIZED AND CAST VISION AND TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE. AS THE LIAISON COMING IN AND BEING TRAINED ON EVERYTHING GOING ON THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING I'M HEARING IS WE NEED ORGANIZATION AND RAISE THE LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE.ROM WHAT I'M HEARING THIS IS WHAT WILL

HELP DO THAT. IS THAT RIGHT? >> I JUST WANT TO ADD FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT I'VE WITNESSED. THE BOARD HAS BEEN AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF PRESSURE FOR 10 YEARS PLUS I KNOW OF. I WAS COMPLAINING HOW AND WHY YOU PICK WHAT YOU FUND AND HOW YOU MAKE CHOICES THE PROBLEM I SEE IS THE SAME PROBLEM WE HAVE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THIS MONEY I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. BUT WHO IS GOING TO DECIDE HOW WE ARE GOING TO CONSTRUCT A PLAN IS THAT THE FOUR PEOPLE? AND CITIZENS BLAMING THE FOUR PEOPLE FOR PROJECTS? THEN YOU HAVE ONGOING PLANS YOU ARE CURRENTLY FUNDING THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE THE SAME TEMPLATE. YOU ALSO HAVE A PARKS SYSTEM AND THE REST OF THE INFRA-STRUCTURE SYSTEMS YOU FUND WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE CITY AND OTHER CITIES WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME FORMAT. HOW DO YOU TAKE ALL THESE COMPLEXITIES AND BLEND THEM TOGETHER. I'M IN AGREEMENT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET A TEMPLATE PLAN. I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN NDER AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF PRESSURE TO GET THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE THE MONEY HAS QUADRUPLED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

IT WAS MUCH SIMPLER. WE COULD GET RID OF THE MONEY REAL QUICK WHEN IT WAS 25 PERCENT OF WHAT IT IS NOW WE CAN STILL GET RID OF IT QUICKLY BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE

MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR THE CITIZENS. >> THE WHOLE REASON I PULLED THIS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT IS I HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN CORPORATE AMERICA.

THIS IS SOMETHING DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BUSINESS UNITS WILL SAY WE NEED TO MAKE A STRATEGIC PLAN AND THEY WILL SPEND LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET AN OUTSIDE CONSULTING FIRM TO COME IN AND GIVE THEM THIS STRUCTURE. ALMOST ALWAYS WHAT I SEE IS IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE THE ORGANIZATIONAL MATRIX IN PLACE IN ORDER TO ADD LEAST BEGIN TO BUILD THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF EXECUTING IT WHEN YOU DO GET IT AND ENDS UP BEING WASTED SPENDING. IT ENDS UP SITTING ON THE SHELF

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THAT'S MY OPINION AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT'S WHY THIS MONEY IS SO EXPENSIVE COULD LOOK AT THE JOB AT HAND AND THEY SAID THIS IS SO DISORGANIZED WE HAVE TO CHARGE THIS MUCH IN ORDER TO

BE ABLE TO MAKE A PROFIT ON. >> LET ME MENTION ONE OTHER THING WILL END THINK ABOUT IT.

WE DID WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT YEARS GO. WE DID A PARKS SURVEY.

I THINK WE HAD 300 RESPONDENTS CITYWIDE WHICH SHAPED A HUGE CONTRAST OF WHAT WE SPENT.

I'M ALL WITH YOU BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET IT DONE AND IT'S DONE IN A FORM SO WE GET THE PARTICIPATION LEVEL THAT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE WHOLE CITY. THE PETITION RATE IS TREMENDOUSLY LOW. HOW DO WE GET IT IN PLACE AND HOW DO WE START SELECTING WHAT THE SURVEY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

>> I FEEL LIKE ADDING A STAFF MEMBER FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN SOME OF THE PREP WORK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. ALSO WHAT LEADS ME TO THINK THE STATEMENT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT AFTERWARDS IS INCORRECT. I DO SEE MELISSA BEING ABLE TO IMPLEMENT WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. I THINK THEY ARE PRIMED AND READY. I WILL BE READY TO MAKE A MOTION WHEN YOU'RE READY.

BOOKS ULTIMATELY WE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT EXECUTE THE PLAN AS A COUNSEL? BOOKS I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MELISSA YOU MENTIONED DOING THE RESEARCH OR REACHING OUT TO THESE R BIG CORPORATIONS AND LOOKING AT WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

WHEN YOU WERE REACHING OUT HOW MANY OF THEM DID YOU REACH OUT TO THAT SAID WE DON'T HAVE A

STRATEGIC PLAN? >> I ONLY TARGETED ONES THAT HAD STRATEGIC PLANS.

>> OKAY I'VE GOT YOU. >> COUNSEL ENTERTAIN A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE AS

PRESENTED. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. IT PASSED SIX ÃONE.

THANK YOU GUYS. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE I'M GOING TO MOVE 2023-256 CONSIDER AND

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WICKLIFFE TO RUN THIS AGENDA ITEM. >> MAYOR MAYOR JUSTIN COFFMAN OPENED THE ITEM I WILL LET HIM DO THE PRESENTATION WILL HAVE CITIZENS COME UP AND SPEAK.

>> WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS REQUEST WE ARE IMPROVING IS THE HIGH SCHOOLS FOR THE BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION. THEY RENT THE GEMS WE DON'T OWN ANY GEMS YOU CAN USE FOR FREE AT A DISCOUNTED RATE. THEY RENT EM FROM THE SCHOOL L SYSTEM.

THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WENT ROUGH AND DID A DEAL WHERE THEY WANTED D TO NOT LOSE MONEY BUT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE BASIC COVERAGE OF WHAT IT COSTS A PERSON TO BE IN AT THE GYM AND MONITOR THE GYM. ANYTIME IF THERE'S A GAME THERE HAS TO BE SECURITY.

THE COST OF RENTING A GYM WENT LIKE THIS STRAIGHT UP. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS OLD JIM THIS YEAR THEY INCREASED THEIR FEES ON RENTING THE M. AGAIN FOR THE BASKETBALL L ASSOCIATION THE BASIC FEES HAVE JUST SOARED. THEY HAVEN'T SOARED ON ANY OTHER LEAGUE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE CHARGE AS A CITY FOR SOCCER, FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL, NONE OF THOSE FEES HAVE SOARED LIKE IT HAS IN BASKETBALL. THE RENTAL ON THE GEMS HAS REALLY JUST GONE CRAZY. AS AS A BOARD APPROVED TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND ST READ VAPE

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IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE A SEASON OR IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE WILL NOT BE A RECEIPT SO THERE IS NO LIABILITY THEY WILL COME TO US WITH RECEIPTS AND WE WILL PAY OFF THOSE RECEIPTS ONLY FOR THE FACILITIES BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE CAN AFFORD. THAT'S ALL WE CAN PAY FOR

ACCORDING TO OUR STATE LAWS. >> A QUICK NOTE. LET THE RECORD REFLECT MAYOR JUSTIN COFFMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOORMAN STEPPED UP DUE TO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. TAMMY DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

WE HAVE A NEW CLOCK SO BEAR WITH ME. >> IT IS FANCY.

HI LISA HEALY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE BASKETBALL LEAGUE. I ACTUALLY SPOKE AT THE MEETING WHEN THIS WAS BEING REVIEWED.

I SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE BASKETBALL LEAGUE. AND THE SALES TAX MONEY SHOULD BE USED ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES AT THE PARKS LIKE WE DO FOR SOCCER AND BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL. HOWEVER, WHEN I SPOKE I MENTIONED IN IT HOW INVALUABLE THE EFFORTS OF THOSE WHO RAN THE LEAGUE WERE. I HAD THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS VOLUNTEER TIME. THEN POST THE MEETING I COME TO FIND OUT THAT THEY DRAW SALARY.

ALBEIT SMALL. IT IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. THE FACT THAT THEY WERE NOT TRANSPARENT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE GIVES ME CONCERN. IF THEY ARE NOT TRANSPARENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS FAIRLY SIMPLE TO DISCLOSE, IT MAKES ME WONDER WHAT OTHER THINGS ARE NOT BEING DISCLOSED. ESPECIALLY IN A LEAGUE THAT IS GROWING SO QUICKLY.

AND I ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT THERE ARE NO PLANS IN PLACE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WILL DEAL WITH THIS TYPE OF EXPENDITURE YEAR-OVER-YEAR FOR THE LEAGUE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AS YOU ARE REVIEWING THIS OPPORTUNITY. HONESTY AND TRANSPARENCY SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE THINGS WE LOOK TO. IT IS REALLY CONCERNING THAT IT GOT MESSY.

AFTER THE MONEY WAS AWARDED TO THEM. THANK YOU.

>> HI THERE MY NAME IS TIFFANY CARA. I LIVE AT 1721 SWIFT DRIVE AND THE CITY LIMITS. BOTH MY CHILDREN HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS BASKETBALL LEAGUE.

WE ARE NOT SPORTS BALL PEOPLE COULD WE ARE NOT GOING TO PLAY SOCCER.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO PLAY FOOTBALL. BASEBALL SEEMS IKE A LOT OF IN THE HOT SUN. WHEN WE HAD THE CHANCE TO PLAY BASKETBALL IN C WE WERE THERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A ASSUMPTION IS NOT HIDING SOMETHING.

EXCUSE ME. ALL FINANCIALS HAVE BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE BOARD AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE COLLECT MONEY, TAX DOLLARS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO HELP THIS ONE AND MY OLDEST CONTINUE TO PLAY BALL THIS WINTER LEAGUE. BECAUSE WITHOUT THIS GRANT IT IS NOT HAPPENING. THIS IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE LEAGUE WE HAVE.

YOU HAVE PEEWEE FOOTBALL AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR PADS AND FOR THE LEAGUE FEE AND FOR CLEATS AND FOR WHATEVER MY KIDS SHOW UP AND THE TENNIS SHOES AND SHORTS AND THROW ON A JERSEY.

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THANKS. KS. >> CORY LUCAS.

I AM IN THE CITY OF LIMITS AND MIDLOTHIAN. I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE MIDLOTHIAN BASKETBALL LEAGUE. I STAYED A MOMENT AGO AND IN THE MEETING THAT WAS OVER AN HOUR AND AND A HALF FOR THE GRANT WAS VETTED BY A GROUP OF PEOPLE YOU GUYS PUT THERE TO DO EXACTLY THAT. ARE WE ALLOWED TO KNOW WHO PULLED THIS ITEM AS A CONSENT ITEM INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA? THIS ITEM WAS PULLED UP BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT

SHOWED UP. >> I PULLED THE RECORDS FROM THESE MEETINGS AND I NOTICED MOST OF THESE ITEMS WERE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS SO I WAS WONDERING.

TO THAT NOTE I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING SAID ABOUT LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.

I BELIEVE THERE IS 100 PERCENT TRANSPARENCY IN THE GUISE THAT RUN THIS LEAGUE GET PAID LESS THAN PEOPLE THEY PAY TO WORK IN THE LEAGUE. THEY ARE WORKING TIRELESSLY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO DO WHICH IS BRING SPORTS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I DID NOTICE ONE OF THE OTHER CITIZENS BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE TO DO THIS? JUST ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IF WE DID THIS THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE WOULD TELL THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS THEY ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE SOCCER PLAYERS. IN THE FIELD FOR THE SOCCER LEAGUE WHICH WAS AGENDA ITEM 2003 FEBRUARY 1, 2027 THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PAID OUT FOR THE LIGHTS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS IF YOU WANT TO SAY TO THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM THEY ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE SOCCER RS WE COULD DO THIS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND BE JUST . I CAN SEE IGHT WE SIMPLY SAY THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHER SPORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT WANTING THEM TO HAVE FACILITIES AT THE SAME LEVEL. I DID SOME ATH, QUICK MATH AND WHAT I'M NOTICING IS THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS ARE PAYING FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALL THE OTHER CITY FUNDED FACILITY LEAGUES THAT WE HAVE. THIS GRANT DOES NOT COVER ALL THE FACILITY FEES. IT COMES UP $20 SHY PER PLAYER. THEY DID NOT COME ASKING FOR THE WHOLE THING BUT ASKED FOR SOME BEREAVEMENT SO WE CAN KEEP A BASKETBALL LEAGUE GOING IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'M A FATHER OF TWO GIRLS THAT PLAY IN THE LEAGUE AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF A LINK THAT'S RUN SO WELL. AND THAT HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY THEY'VE STUCK IT OUT EVEN THE IT HAS GONE REALLY TOUGH AND I I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER RILEY STEPPING UP AND DOING WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING IN THE LEAGUE AND IN OUR CITY SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. FROM A PUBLIC STAND AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS TODAY.

THIS MEANS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR PASSING IT.

>> MY NAME IS RILEY PLAN. 5031 WHITEHEAD ROAD IN THE CITY LIMITS.

I SIGNED UP TO SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT ALLEN AND NICK SAID.

I WAS GOING TO GIVE A BACK STORY. IT WAS THE ONE THAT PRESENTED THE GRANT COULD HARM THE GRANT REQUEST ARE IN THE COMMISSIONER OF THE LEAGUE.

SORRY FOR MY ATTIRE FIRST OF ALL I CAME STRAIGHT FROM BASKETBALL CAMP WITH THE KIDDOS SO I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO PUT MY SUIT ON. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT FIRST.

BASICALLY LIKE ALLEN SAID TO ECHO THE FIRST SEASON WE WERE PAYING THREE DOLLARS AN HOUR TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. OUR BILL WAS $3600 FOR A FULL SEASON OF 400 KIDS GRANTED WE HAVE 1000 KIDS NOW. OUR BILL TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ALONE FOR TWO SEASONS THIS YEAR WILL BE IN EXCESS OF 90,000. DOESN'T COUNT THE MONEY WE ARE PAYING TO GO TO MANSFIELD FOR OUR TOURNAMENTS WHICH WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY IN MIDLOTHIAN.

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I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF BASKETBALL AND AROUND A LOT OF BASKETBALL.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY, CITY THAT HAS A PROGRAM THAT HAS 1000 KIDS WE HAD 11 PERCENT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CT KIDS PLAYED IN OUR R LEAGUE.

THAT'S NOT THE THING. WE HAVE SOMETHING SUPER SPECIAL HERE AND THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN THAT'S UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. DEFINITELY UNIQUE TO THE DFW.

IF WE WERE TO RAISE PRICES THERE WOULD NOT BE 1000 KIDS GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY.

WE ARE MAXED OUT ON SCHOLARSHIPS. WE GIVE 30 TO 50 SCHOLARSHIPS AND THE PRICES WE CHARGE NOW AND THAT'S GIVEN TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WANT TO SUPPORT OUR KIDS. IT WOULD HINDER US ALSO AND I WANT TO ECHO WHAT ALLEN SAID.

FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF 191 600 SHOULD SAY IN THE AMOUNT UP TO.

WE ARE NOT GETTING $191,000 CHECK. IF YOU GUYS PASS THIS WE SUBMIT INVOICES WHICH HAS BEEN PAID. YOU GUYS WILL TAKE THAT AND PAY THE INVOICE AND THE AMOUNT UP TO 191,000. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ASKED THAT YOU PLEASE HELP US SUPPORT THESE KIDS DO SOMETHING

SPECIAL IN THIS TOWN. THANK U. >> GOOD EVENING MATT AND I LIVE AT 6981 CEDAR CT. AND AN OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS. BY ABOUT 50 ET.

I'M NOT OT HERE, NONE OF THE POLITICS AND SPECIFICS OF THE FINANCIALS AND ALL THAT.

I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF ALLEN AND RILEY AND COREY WHO SPOKE AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT PUT THE LEAGUE TOGETHER. AND CREATED FROM NOTHING OR AT LEAST FROM WHAT THE BASKETBALL EXPERIENCE THAT WAS AVAILABLE IN MIDLOTHIAN BEFORE THIS LEAK EXISTED WHICH WAS ALMOST NOTHING WHICH LED PEOPLE TO GO TO MANSFIELD. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN RELIEVED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SPORT HERE. HAVE GRANDPARENTS WHERE IT'S EASY FOR THEM TO COME AND AUNTS AND UNCLES. ALL I CAN SPEAK OF IS MY EXPERIENCE FROM A PARENT STANDPOINT AND A COACHES STANDPOINT WHERE I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THESE YOUNG BOYS AND GIRL'S. HOPEFULLY INFLUENCE THEM AND TEACH THEM SOMETHING. RILEY, ALLEN, CORY AND EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE, AS FAR AS LEE GOES THEY'VE BEEN AS TRANSPARENT AND ACCESSIBLE AND HARD-WORKING AND CREATED AS ANYTHING I CAN IMAGINE. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DRAWING A SALARY ANYTIME I GO TO ONE OF THESE FACILITIES ON THE WEEKENDS DURING WEAKNESS OF PRACTICE THEY ARE THERE.

THE FAMILIES ARE THERE. THEY ARE VIDEOING AND MARKETING AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY STANDPOINT I HOPE THIS LEAK IS ABLE TO CONTINUE. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT APPENS THE SPECIFICS OF THE GRANTS I THINK YOU WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED TO FIND ANOTHER SPORTS EAGUE UE USED THAT MATCHES WHAT THIS TEAM IS DOING GOOD I THINK YOU FOR HEARING .

>> TAYLOR BEARD 1709 AND THEN THE CITY LIMITS. I HELP RUN THE NYPD FOR YEARS AND I COACH AT LEAST FIVE TEAMS A YEAR. I UNDERSTAND HOW MANY HOURS THESE GUYS PUT I THINK YOU BE HARD-PRESSED TO FIND A AK THAT DOESN'T PAY SOMEBODY TO DO THE SCHEDULING. ESPECIALLY A LEAGUE OF OVER A THOUSAND D KIDS YEARS AGO MY NEPHEW PLAYED BASKETBALL AT NY BA AND MY KIDS HAVE PLAYED IN NY BA.

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THEY INVEST IN OUR KIDS AND COMMUNITY. IN NO WAY BUY ANYTHING I UNDERSTAND WAS ANYTHING HIDDEN. THIS PASSED THE TESTS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND PASSED THE TEST OF THE MCD SEABOARD IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT WHATEVER WHAT YOU WANT TO GO.

IT PASSED EVERY TEST THE CITY BUT BEFORE YOU. I STRONGLY URGE THAT IF YOU WANT QUALITY OF LIFE TELL ME ANOTHER LEAGUE THAT HAS 1000 KIDS THAT ARE OUT THERE SMILING. COUNCILMAN, COUNSEL LADY IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO A LEAGUE GAME AND SEEING THE SMILES ON KIDS THERE'S A GROUP LAST YEAR THEY ASKED ME TO STEP IN AND COACH FOR THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE THE COACH COULD NOT BE THERE. I HAD A GROUP OF YOUNG LADIES THAT HAD NOT WON A GAME ALL SEASON LONG. GUESS WHAT? THEY WENT TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME THROUGH THE PLAYOFFS. THOSE ARE MEMBERS OF THOSE KIDS WILL HAVE FOREVER. WHAT IS THE COST OF A MEMORY AND WHAT IS THE COST OF VALUES AND HARD WORK AND DEDICATION IN FINDING A PASSION IN YOUR LIFE? TO TAKE YOU TO WHERE EVER YOU CAN BE 207 KIDS AND MY FAMILY ARE PURSUING CAREERS IN BASKETBALL BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SPORTS DID FOR THEM HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN. WE HAVE THE FACILITIES FOR OR FOOTBALL WE HAVE THEM FOR SOCCER AND SOFTBALL. WE HAVE YET TO BUILD WHAT WE NEED FOR BASKETBALL. I KNOW SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO THAT AND THE OTHER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS HAMMERED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WHAT THEY REQUIRE FOR JIM RENTALS NOWADAYS THE SECURITY AND SAFETY OF THESE KIDS.

I ASK YOU VOTE S TONIGHT ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR R TIME.

THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS JACOB RHODES AT 3009 HONEY BROOK DRIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE MIDLOTHIAN BASKETBALL LEAGUE.

I VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS LINK THE PAST TWO YEARS AS A COACH I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN BUT I'VE BEEN COACHING FOR SEVEN YEARS WHEN I MOVED FROM SOUTH CAROLINA I COACHED THERE FOR FIVE YEARS I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD HAVE A LEAGUE LIKE THIS. I FOUND MIDLOTHIAN AND VOLUNTEERED AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT MR. PLAN COUNCILMAN ALLEN MOORMAN IS TOP-NOTCH. UNLIKE ANYTHING I'VE EVER SEEN FOR A CITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE FACILITIES TO DO WHAT THEY'VE DONE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS AND WORKING WITH THE OLD JIM AND ALL THAT WITHOUT HAVING THEIR OWN FACILITY AND ORGANIZE PRACTICES FOR THOUSANDS OF KIDS. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THE CITY WILL BE THE PORT THE BASKETBALL LINK BECAUSE THERE ARE COUPLE THINGS THAT MAKE BASKETBALL UNIQUE OTHER OTHER SPORTS LIKE FOOTBALL, SOCCER AND BASEBALL YOU DON'T NEED EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT OR ABOUT YOUR CLUB OR PAD OR A HELMET OR EXPENSIVE CLEATS. YOU NEED A PAIR OF TENNIS SHOES YOU WORK WITH SCHOOL AND A BASKETBALL.HOW UP AND PLAY WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND YOU DON'T NEED A TON OF SCHOOL TO PLAY BASKETBALL EITHER. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BEING A RECREATION LEAGUE. PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIS KIDS TO PLAY BASKETBALL AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TEAMS AND MANSFIELD BUT A LOT OF TEAMS ARE AAU TEAMS AND THE INVOLVE A LOT OF SKILL. I WILL SAY THIS RESPECTFULLY TO THE KIDS IN THE LEAGUE MORE KIDS IN THIS LEAK WE HAVE WILL NEVER PLAY BASKETBALL AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. MOST KIDS WILL PLATE RECREATION BASKETBALL UNTIL EIGHTH GRADE OR NINTH GRADE AND PROBABLY NEVER PLAY BASKETBALL AGAIN. HAVING THIS LEAK GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO BE PART OF A TEAM THEY MAY NEVER GET TO BE PART OF AGAIN IF YOU GUYS HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A GAME SOME OF THE BEST MOMENTS WHEN YOUR COACHING ARE THE KIDS THAT HAVE NOT SCORED A POINT THE ENTIRE SEASON AND THEN MAKE THE FIRST BASKET IN THE LAST GAME.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE CRAZIEST MOMENTS. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHO THE KIDS ARE GOOD FOR THE KIDS TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING THE LEAGUE WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THEM WITHOUT. FINALLY I WILL TALK ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY GROWING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN OR AS WE HAVE BEEN GROWING IN MIDLOTHIAN THERE'S A LOT FOR THE KIDS EVERY SEASON THE PARENTS COME UP AND SAY THANK GOD YOU

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THEY WANT TO STAY ON THEIR TEAM 'S APPEARANCE KEEP THEM FOCUSED AND SEE IF YOU WANT TO PRACTICE STAY OUT OF TROUBLE. I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER PASSING THIS AND SECURE THE FUTURE GENERATION OR BASKETBALL FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF MIDLOTHIAN.

THANK . > TODD AND PHIL WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND I DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR MY RE. MR. BARRY COVERED WHAT I WAS HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT AS WELL AS THESE OTHER WONDERFUL CITIZENS WHAT I WILL SAY PROSOFT IS MR. RILEY AND MR. ALLEN ARE TWO OF THE FINEST GENTLEMEN I KNOW AND VERY OUTSTANDING INDIVIDUALS IN THE TY I FIND IT FIND IT DISTURBING THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT UP ON ANYTHING EXCEPT THE MERITS THIS IS WHAT THE MCD SEABOARD WAS FOR. QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS.

THIS IS THE PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A LEAGUE OF OVER A THOUSAND STUDENTS AND COACHES AND THOUSANDS OF PARENTS IN A WONDERFUL THING IN A TOWN THAT LACKS A LOT OF ACTIVITIES FOR YOUNG CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS. I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL CREATION THEY PUT TOGETHER AND IT DISTURBS ME WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND UNELECTED OFFICIALS AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND PRIVATE CITIZENS THAT FIND A PROBLEM AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO GO ON IN THIS TOWN IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT IS REPREHENSIBLE. THAT NEEDS TO STOP. NEED TO GET ON BOARD WITH OUR CITY AND SCHOOLS AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT THIS LEAK DOES IT DOES WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THESE CHILDREN AND THESE ADULTS AND FAMILIES.

AND ANYONE THAT WOULD STAND UP AND CAUSE A ROBLEM AT THEIR IR ACCUSATIONS, UNWARRANTED ACCUSATIONS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY IS ON THEM. BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CITY IS ABOUT I WOULD HOPE THAT PEOPLE WOULD LEARN THAT THESE GROUPS ARE DOING GOOD THINGS IN OUR CITY. PROVIDING QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH LAST TIME I CHECKED IS WHAT BOARD WAS ALL ABOUT. LET'S DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN AND AFFORD THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE RECOUNTED BY MR. MERRITT ABOUT MEMORIES, MENTORS AND BUILDING BETTER CITIZENS FOR COMMUNITY. I WOULD ASK YOU PLEASE PASS THIS GRANT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED BY OTHER GROUPS AND LET THIS PARTICULAR ASSOCIATION

CONTINUE WITH ITS GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD HOW MANY LETTERS OF NON-SPEAKERS DID WE RECEIVE? WERE THEY IN SUPPORT? THANK YOU. ALLEN AND MELISSA WILL YOU COME BACK FOR QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE? COUNSEL THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. HOW MUCH DOES IT COST FOR THE YEAR TO RUN THIS LEAK?

>> OVERALL? >> > YES. >> IF YOU ALL NEED TO COME RILEY YOU CAN COME SPEAK TO THAT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

>> I SENT MIKE THE P&L FOR 2022. HE REQUESTED IT COULD I SEND THAT BACK ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER BUT I KNOW IT WAS AROUND I THINK $440,000 ARE THE EXPENSES.

NORTH OF 400 OF THE FORM 40 IS WHAT THE P&L LOOKED LIKE. IT HAS ONLY GROWN.

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THAT'S WHY WE ARE STANDING HERE. >> YOU ARE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT

THE NUMBER IS. >> IT IS IN THE PACKET. >> OF GOT THE ACTUAL PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT. LOOKS THE GROSS INCOME IS 370. NOT FOR 40 370.

>> THAT WAS OUR POINT. I SAW THAT IN THE PACKET AS >> IF I COULD SPEAK TO THEM I

WOULD LOVE TO. >> HOLD ON A A SECOND. LET HIM ASK HIS NEXT QUESTION.

>> CAN YOU LIST THE PAID EMPLOYEES OF THE LEAK? NOT THE NAMES BUT POSITIONS.

>> I HAVE APPLIED FOR 500 GRAMS FROM SPECIFIC CONDITIONS LIKE THE ANDERSON N FOUNDATION AND THINGS OF THAT MANNER AND WE ARE NEVER ASKED TO BREAK DOWN PAYROLL.

I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO PROTECT ANYBODY. GENERALLY WHEN YOU MAKE A GRANT

REQUEST FROM ANYBODY YOU GIVE A FULL BREAKDOWN OF THE PAYROLL. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER.

I'M A LIAISON OF THE PARKS BOARD AND EVERY YEAR THE DIFFERENT SPORTS ORDERS COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND THESE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED. I WILL ASK AGAIN.

WHAT ARE THE PAID POSITIONS THE LEAGUE HAS? >> WILL UTILIZE THE CITY FACILITIES. WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO TO THE PARKS MEETINGS.

JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. >> IS THAT A NO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT?

>> HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF ANSWERING IT. >> COUNSEL LET'S HAVE ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME. LET'S LET HIM FINISH ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

BOOKS ARE NOT ABLE TO LIST THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE PAID BY NAME BECAUSE OVER THE COURSE OF 12

MONTHS. >> DID NOT ASK FOR A NAME WITH ALL DUE RESPECT LOOKS PROBABLY OVER 100 PEOPLE PAID IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BOOKKEEPERS AND SCOREKEEPERS FRONT DOOR WORKERS CONCESSION STAND KERS THE PERSON WHO DOES THE SCHEDULE AND ABOUT OUR SECURITY GUARDS. THE REFEREES.

WE HAVE ABOUT 40 YOUTH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT WORK FOR US EVERY WEEKEND.

WE HAVE 100 OF THEM. I CAN LOSE AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS RELEVANT. >> THE OTHER SPORTS LEAGUES IN TOWN MOST POSITIONS, SOME ARE PAID. REVERIES YOU HAVE TO PAY AND YOU'RE NOT FIND A TEAM OF REFEREES TO VOLUNTEER I UNDERSTAND THAT AND UNDERSTAND YOU PAY SOMEONE TO KEEP YOUR BOOKS I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT I DO KNOW ON THE NOTE THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PAID EMPLOYEES BUT I WILL NOTE ALL THE OTHER LEAGUES IN TOWN HAVE PARENTS FILL IN SOME OF THESE ROLES TO REDUCE COST AND YOUR LEAGUE IS NOT TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT QUESTION YOUR LINK IS CALLED MIDLOTHIAN YOUTH

BASKETBALL LEAGUE. >> MIDLOTHIAN BASKETBALL LEAGUE INK.

>> IT'S BEEN SAID IT IS YOUTH BUT IS THAT TRUE? YOU HAVE ADULTS IN YOUR LEAGUE

AS WELL RIGHT? WHAT'S YES A SUMMER PROGRAM. >> IT WAS IN THE RING.

>> IT IS YOUTH AND ADULT AGUE. I'M FROM MIDLOTHIAN AND I GREW UP HERE AND PLAYED IN MANY OF THE YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS GROWING UP.Y DAD BOUNDED THE MIDLOTHIAN BASEBALL ASSOCIATION BACK IN THE 80S THEY NEVER HAD PAID EMPLOYEES. I UNDERSTAND TO SPORTS ARE NOT ALWAYS APPLES TO APPLES AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. OF COURSE THEY PAY THEIR EMPIRES JUST LIKE YOU PAY YOUR REFEREES IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU BRING TO THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. THAT'S WHY I OTED TWO YEARS IN A ROW TO GIVE THIS LEAK MONEY. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE NEED D TO AS A COUNSEL CONTINUE TO FUND THE AGUE THAT MISINTERPRETS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WANTS AND NEEDS.

IN OUR HOUSEHOLD WE HAVE WANTS AND NEEDS AND NEED IS ELECTRICITY, WATER AND FOOD.

A WANT IS DJS AND ALL THE EXTRA BILLS AND WHISTLES THE LEAGUE HAS THAT DRIVES UP COSTS WHAT

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TO DO THAT? >> I WOULD THINK THIS PLAN IS A MULTIPLE PART PLAN.

THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD TAKE THE LEAD ON IT AND CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT CAN WORK WITH THIS JIM AND THE BASKETBALL LEAGUE AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTIES INVOLVED. ALL THE PROCESS WENT UP IF WE CAN GET THE GROUPS TOGETHER WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND LEADERSHIP OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THESE FEES DOWN. I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT.

I'M ON NONE OF THOSE BUT AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LEADERSHIP TAKE A KEY ROLE IN THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

THEY ARE SET BY EVERYONE ELSE AND YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF RENT IT IS SET BY SOMEBODY ELSE. WHEN THE STATE SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SECURITY CARD OR LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS IN DUNCANVILLE IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

AGAIN IT IS NOT FREE THE PRICE GOES UP. AS YOU ARE THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR CITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE BOARD BEING THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SCHOOLS I WOULD LIKE FOR THOSE GROUPS TO COME TOGETHER AND TELL US WHAT THE PLAN IS.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE MAKE THIS NOT 191,000.

>> I THINK MR. PLANTS AND THE COURT COST WAS $90,000? >> IT WASN'T FOR THE SUMMER

SEASON. >> FOR COURTS? WHAT WAS THE 90,000 THING? FOR TWO SEASONS. YOU ARE ASKING FOR $190,000 FOR COURT COSTS BUT IT ONLY COST

YOU 40,000? >> THEY HAVE MULTIPLE SEASONS. >> IT IS LIKE OUR TRADITIONAL SEASONS. HOW MANY SEASONS DO YOU ALL HAVE? YES BUT THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE THIS. I KNOW SOME OF THESE ANSWERS

BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. >> WE PRESENTED ALL OF THIS I WASN'T PREPARED. THERE WAS A SHEET THAT SHOWED THE NEXT 12 MONTHS OF SEASONS.

MR. MIKE RODGERS DO YOU HAVE THAT? >> IT IS IN OUR PACKET.

>> WE HAVE A YOUTH SEASON IN THE SUMMER. WE HAVE A YOUTH SEASON IN THE WINTER. 10 WEEKS LONG. WE ARE PLANNING ON A SPRING SIX WEEKS LONG. SUMMER ADULT LEAGUE. AND IF ALL ADULT LEAGUE.

WE RUN CAMP FOR KIDS AND DO SKILLS TRAINING. WE GIVE KIDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRAIN FOR $20 AN HOUR. SMALL GROUPS WITH A PROFESSIONAL TRAINER.

WE DO THE SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S A LOT OF COSTS.

SECURITY WHEN WE HAVE GAMES ON SITE. 96 PRACTICES AND 48 GAMES.

ON WEEKENDS. MULTIPLY THAT OVER 12 WEEKS AND IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

>> HOLD ON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE. I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO SEE IF

ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> I WANT TO CLARIFY 216,006 OR $90 IS WHAT'S IN THE PACKET THE

NEXT 12 MONTHS FOR FACILITY COST. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> LAST YEAR HE SAID IT WAS THREE OR WAS THE TOTAL OPERATING COST I'VE HEARD THESE NUMBERS AND THEN GOT UP 1000 WHAT IS THE PREDICTED FOR THIS EAR?

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IT IS STILL GOING TO BE 370,000? >> 2022 WAS THE FIRST YEAR SO WE DON'T HAVE FINANCIALS FOR 2023 YET. I'M SORRY FOR 2022.

LIKE OUR TAX RETURN. I GUESS THAT IS IRRELEVANT. 2022 IS ONE OF THE LEAGUE WAS STARTED. WE HAD 348 KIDS. THE SAME YEAR AND SUMMER WE HAD 670 KIDS FAST-FORWARD 2023 WE RAN TO SEASONS THIS YEAR ALONE. WE HAD 978 KIDS AND 780 KIDS IN THE SUMMER. THE NUMBERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT

MORE KIDS IN THE PROGRAM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> IT DOES.

WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE IS ANY PROJECTIONS FOR WHAT IT WILL COST THIS YEAR TO RUN THE LEAK?

>> WHEN WE SUBMITTED THIS GRANT THE PROJECTION FOR OUR FACILITIES IS OVER 12 MONTHS.

WE HAVE BUDGETS EVERY SEASON. JUST LIKE THE BUDGET YOU HAVE HERE.

WE PROJECT OUT AND TRY TO STICK TO IT. >> MY DAUGHTER'S BOTH PLAY IN BASKETBALL. I REMEMBER GOING AWAY PAID FOR THE ENTRY FEES TO BE IN THE LEAGUE COULD AND WE HAD TO PAY AND I WAS NGRY EVERY BUT I HAD TO PAY TO GET IN TO SEE THE AME. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE AT EVERY GAME DURING THE SAME.

I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TICKET SALES AS WELL. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE

MAKING IN TICKET SALES FOR THESE EVENTS? >> $40,590 WAS FOR THE SUMMER.

THAT IS FOR THE SUMMER. THAT IS FOR ONE SEASON WE CAN DO THE MATH.

>> THAT WOULD BE TOO SEASONS LIKE THIS. >> YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE

BAD AT MATH WHEN YOU ASK FOR MONEY. >> XL DID IT ALL FOR ME.

>> WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS I KNOW YOU WERE GRANTED MONEY LAST YEAR AND YOU'RE COMING THIS YEAR AND I'M LOOKING AT 8 TO TO 7058 8 KIDS IN A MATTER OF A COUPLE YEARS.

AT THIS GROWTH RATE THE CITY IS NOT ONE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO FUND THIS.

IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT. VEN IF THIS ONE GETS APPROVED THIS YEAR, IF THIS GROWS AT THIS RATE NEXT YEAR I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DO IT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LAST YEAR THE CITY RAN A DEFICIT BUDGET. I DON'T SEE HOW WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AT THIS RATE UNLESS THERE'S SOME WAY TO OFFSET THESE COSTS ARE RUN THIS LEAGUE AND A SELF-SUSTAINING CAPABILITY. THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU ARE GENERATING YOUR REVENUE. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 90 TO 140 PER KID DEPENDING UPON WHICH

LEAGUE WHY IS IT DIFFERENT? >> SOME ARE FOUR WEEKS AND SOME ARE SIX WEEKS.

>> IT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME. OKAY. I'M SORRY I'M DOING A LITTLE

BIT OF MATH HERE. >> DID THE MCD SEABOARD GO THROUGH ALL THIS ALREADY?

>> UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO BE AT THOSE I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THIS ISION WITHOUT HAVING

NUMBERS PRESENTED TO ME. >> THERE'S NUMBERS IN THE PACKET.

>> ARE LIVED THROUGH THOSE. >> LET'S HAVE ONE SPEAKER AND DIRECT OUR QUESTIONS TO ALLEN AND LISSA. AND RILEY WILL BE HERE FOR CLARIFICATION AND ND ANSWERS.

MIKE HAS HAD HIS LIGHT ON FOR A GOOD MINUTE. WE CAN GO TO MIKE TO SEE IF HE

HAS ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WANT TO TRY TO WRAP AROUND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I WILL ASK THE AUDIENCE IF THEY CAN KEEP THE SPEAKING TO A MINIMAL SO WE CAN HAVE

CONVERSATIONS. >> THE GRANT IS UP TO. YOU ONLY PAY ON FACILITIES

USED. BY INVOICE ONLY. >> CORRECT.

>> I WILL ADMIT I ASKED YOU FOR YOUR PANEL STATEMENT. TO LET THE FOLKS KNOW WHAT I

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THAT IS PART OF ANOTHER DEAL I'VE GOT EVERYTHING HERE YOU CAN IMAGINE AND I ALSO HAVE A P&L STATEMENT THAT I HAD WITHIN 10 MINUTES ASKING FOR IT BY EMAIL LIKE THAT.

YOU GUYS MCD SEE HAS A P&L STATEMENT YOU GUYS EWED. I ALSO TOOK THE TIME TO CALL ALL OF OUR YOUTH LEAGUES. I WILL TELL YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO THROW ANYBODY OUT THERE BUT WE HAVE OTHER YOUTH LEAGUES WITH SALARY PERSONNEL THAT ARE ABOVE WHAT THEY HAVE.

LOCALLY IN OUR YOUTH LEAGUES BOTH MY DAUGHTERS PLAY FOR TAYLOR.

WE KNOW TAYLOR PRETTY GOOD I UESS WHAT I'M WRAPPING MY MIND AROUND IS THIS IS UP O SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY RUN $10,000 WORTH OF RENTAL FEES OR 191,000 WHATEVER.

THERE IS NO WAY TO EXTRACT EXTRA DOLLARS OUT OF IT. IT IS A HARD PURCHASE ONGOING AND REGULATED BY THESE GUYS BECAUSE MCD SEE AND NOT GIVING THEM THE MONEY UP NT.

IT IS A PAY-AS-YOU-GO. WHAT I ALSO LEARNED AFTER LOOKING AT THIS IS TO ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS ASKED ABOUT PLANS FOR COURTS IT STARTED DAWNING ON ME THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN ASEBALL AND FOOTBALL AND SOCCER.

I SAT ON COUNSEL WHEN WE DID THE 1.9 MILLION AND I REMEMBER SCRATCHING MY HEAD SAYING GOLLY THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. I REMEMBER WHEN THE MCD SEE APPLIED HALF A MILLION TO ASTROTURF FOR THE BASEBALL GUE AT THE PARK. I KNOW RIGHT NOW THERE IS ANOTHER PHASE COMING FOR THE BASEBALL LEAGUE DOWN THE ROAD FOR $200,000 BATTING CAGES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT AS FAR AS THESE FOLKS WITH THE BASKETBALL LEAGUE THEY OFFERED EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASKED OF THEM AT THE GRANT REQUEST.

AND THEN QUESTIONS POPPED UP A WEEK LATER. THE GALLERY WILL KNOW WE GET TO STUDY THESE THINGS AHEAD OF TIME. WE'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR A COUPLE WEEKS I WILL SAY WHEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION INCLUDING COMPLETE P&L STATEMENTS SHOW FOR EVERY DOLLAR AND SET THEY OBTAINED AND ALSO SHOWED FOR THE NONPROFIT STATUS WHICH I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SEVERAL NONPROFITS THEY DID NOT GET THAT UNTIL DECEMBER 22. WHICH WAS SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

NOT THAT THEY DID ANYTHING WRONG. I'VE ONLY WANTED THIS TO SAY I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS CAN GO BUT I KNOW FOR THIS YEAR THE NEEDS AND USES PRETTY MUCH MATCH THE REST OF THESE LEAKS USING OUR FACILITIES FOR FREE. THAT'S HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO DO IT. WHAT GIVES ME SOME RITY IS S THAT THEY ARE PAYING AS THEY GO SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY DO $9000 WORTH OF RENTALS OR 191,000 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHATEVER MONEY GOES ANYWHERE. THAT'S ALL THEY GET THE MONEY FOR I GET IT ALL AND I'VE

JELLED EVERYTHING ELSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THROUGH MY MIND. >> WE FED INFORMATION OF PACKETS FOR WEEKS. WE GET OUR PACKET THE THURSDAY BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IT HAS NOT BEEN FOR WEEKS. YOU SAID THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD GOT THE LEAGUES P&L STATEMENT BEFORE THEY VOTED ON IT THAT IS NOT TRUE. FOR SOME REASON AND I ASKED ALLEN NIX ABOUT THIS THE B BOARD SHOWS NOT TO ASK THE LEAGUE FOR THE PANELS AND VOTED ON IT AND I'VE CONFIRM THAT

WITH TWO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. >> LET'S MAKE RE WE ARE NG QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF F

STATEMENTS. >> CANNOT ASK THE QUESTION OF ALLEN? IS THAT TRUE? WAS THE BOAT TAKEN WITHOUT KNOWING THE P&L? BOOKS WE DID NOT HAVE A BREAKDOWN.

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THAT IS A NO GOOD. >> WHEN WE DO NTS AND OTHER GRANTS IN TOWN WE DON'T GIVE COME ASKED FOR BREAKDOWN OF PAYROLLS. WE DON'T GET INTO THAT WE GOT THE SHEETS RIGHT HERE OF THE BREAKDOWNS THIS IS WHAT WE HAD.

WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO E I HAPPEN TO BE SOMEONE WHO SAT IN ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCESS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THE COST WAS.

THEY WERE GOING TO BREAK EVEN BECAUSE THEY CHARGE THE LABOR OF A PERSON TO SIT THERE AND DON'T CHARGE FOR ELECTRICITY OR AIR CONDITIONING OR HEATING. THEY DON'T CHARGE THEM FOR THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS EATING THAT COST. WE GOT THESE I SAT IN ON THAT.

I LISTENED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AS THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT DOES IT REALLY COST TO USE A GYM. THEY WENT THROUGH IT AND DID A NEW PACKET.

WHAT WE GOT WAS THIS RIGHT HERE THAT TELLS YOU WHAT THE LEAGUES ARE AND WHAT THE COST IS AND

TELLS YOU BASED ON FACILITIES. >> MY QUESTION IS NO OFFENSE. I KNOW THIS IS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION. IT IS STILL CORPORATION THAT DEALS WITH ACCOUNTABLE FUNDS.

THEY ARE TAKING MONEY IN IN TERMS OF FEES FOR JOINING THE LEAGUE IN TAKING IN TICKET SALES. THEY HAVE EXPENSES. THERE IS INCOME AND EXPENSES THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH. WHAT I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IS ARE WE APPROVING A GRANT TO AN ORGANIZATION WHERE WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY NEED IT? I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

>> I CAN TELL YOU I CALLED AROUND AND TALKED TO EVERY SPORTS LEAGUE WE HAD

BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, SOCCER AND FOOTBALL. >> RIGHT NOW I'M ASKING A

QUESTION AND YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID MIKE I

APOLOGIZE. >> THE TROUBLE I'M HAVING WITH THIS AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SALARIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS STRICTLY THE DOLLARS AND CENTS OF IT COULD WHAT I SEE IS A VASTLY GROWING LEAGUE THAT WILL GROW EVEN MORE NOW THAT THERE OPENING IT TO AN ADULT LEAGUE THAT COULD EXPLODE AND BE MUCH LARGER. AT WHAT POINT DO WE HAVE TO BASICALLY HOLD THE LINE SO TO SPEAK AND SAY YOU GOT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR OWN UNDING AT THIS POINT.

IT IS NOT AN UNENDING BUCKET OF MONEY THEY ARE COMING FOR. WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS DO WE DO DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY ARE TAKING IN IS APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT THEIR EXPENDITURES ARE? FROM WHAT I'M HEARING IS 370,000 WAS LAST YEAR.

IT WILL BE THE SAME THIS YEAR BUT COST WENT UP 1000 PERCENT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT COULD BE THE CASE. WE SHOULD HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER THIS YEAR THAN WHAT THE COST IS. IF THEY CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION I HAVE CONCERNS AND

I'D LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERS. >> THAT IS THE REASON THE GRANT IS WRITTEN THE WAY IT IS THE GRANT IS WRITTEN SO THEY ARE NOT GETTING $191,000 AND HERE'S A CHECK THIS IS THE SAME WAY WE DID OTHER PROJECTS IN TOWN IS PEOPLE BROUGHT US INVOICES. THEN WE CUT CHECKS BASED ON THE INVOICES THAT WE RECEIVED. WE'VE DONE THIS THREE TIMES OR FOUR TIMES.

IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL FOR US. DOING EVERYTHING AFTERWARDS.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT THAT DOES GIVE ME COMFORT. MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT THE CHANGE IN COST FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. AND HOW WE ARE DECIDING WHAT PROJECTED COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

HOW MUCH DO WE GIVE LAST YEAR TO THE LEAGUE? I WASN'T HERE TO DO IT.

>> 27,500. >> THIS IS A TENFOLD INCREASE. >> YOUR SEASONS WENT FROM?

>> IT WILL BE EIGHT. >> ADDITIONAL SEASONS. WE ARE ALSO ADDING THE ADULT LEAGUE AS WELL. DO YOU ANTICIPATE GROWTH ON THAT? THAT IS PROJECTED FOR THIS FOR THIS YEAR? DO YOU SEE THAT LEAGUE GROWING

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THE SAME WAY THE YOUTH IS? >> WE DON'T USE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> YOU DON'T USE THE MIDLOTHIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT? FOR ADULTS?

>> WHY IS IT INCLUDED IN THIS? THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR OUR FACILITIES RIGHT?

IT IS STILL A MIDLOTHIAN JIM. >> IS THE REQUIREMENT SINCE THE KIDS ARE GETTING MIDLOTHIAN TAXPAYER MONEY TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THE COST OF THE LEAGUE REQUIREMENT THERE FROM A

MIDLOTHIAN? >> WITHIN A 10 MILE RADIUS. >> OKAY HEREOF THAT WRITTEN INTO RULES? I LIKE THIS IS FOR RILEY AND D ALLEN.

DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO HELP FUND PARENTS THEY WANT THEIR KIDS TO BE IN THE LEAD BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT? I'M ALL FOR THAT.

IF THERE'S PARENTS THAT CAN'T AFFORD FOR THEM TO BE IN THE LEAGUE I'M ALL FOR HELPING TO

FUND THE YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR FOR THAT? >> LAST YEAR THE BEST THING WAS LOOK ON FACEBOOK. THEY WOULD POST ON FACEBOOK I HAVE THREE KIDS THAT NEED A SPONSOR. PEOPLE WOULD STEP UP AND SPONSOR THOSE KIDS.

AND YOU SEE A POST AGAIN WE HAVE THREE MORE KIDS OR TWO KIDS PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WOULD STEP UP AND SPONSOR THOSE KIDS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS BUT I KNOW FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN I ALWAYS PREFER TO EE IT IN ACTION.

THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING I DON'T SEE OTHER LEAGUES DOING IT.

THEY POSTED IT RIGHT ON FACEBOOK. PEOPLE WOULD STEP UP AND SAY I

WILL PICK UP TWO KIDS OR THREE KIDS. >> THAT'S GREAT.

>> WHENEVER WE SAW THE NEED FOR HELP AND WE SAW THE COMMUNITY STEP UP WE FELT CONFIDENT THAT WE PUT NO PLAYER LEFT BEHIND RESOLUTION. EVERY PLAYER COUNTS.

EVERY PLAYER THAT WANTS TO PLAY BASKETBALL IN THE CITY WILL PLAY.

IF WE HAVE TO PAY OURSELVES. >> THANK YOU. >> I'VE SEEN LIGHTS ON FOR A

MINUTE. >> I WANTED TO ADD A MOMENT AGO I APOLOGIZE I THOUGHT YOU WERE TURNING TO ME TO CARRY A CONVERSATION WITHIN YOUR QUESTION.

WHAT I WAS GOING TO STAY WAS IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER I CALLED ALL THE LEAKS.

I'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS I FOUND THE NET INCOME THEY VE IN THIS S LEAGUE EVEN THOUGH IT IS LARGER MATCHES THE NET INCOME OF BASEBALL AND SOCCER FOR SURE AND FOOTBALL TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. THERE ARE SOME SALARIES AND REGISTERS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES BIGGER THAN THEIR SALARY. SINGLE SALARY PERSONS AND OTHER LEGS WE HAVE UNDED. BECAUSE OF THEIR ADULT DIVISION N WHICH IN ITS OWN WAY FIND THAT MAKES IT MORE APPLICABLE TO BE SERVING THE ENTIRE NEED OF THE ENTIRE CITY FOR ALL FOLKS BEING ABLE TO PLAY IN THE CERTAIN WAY. I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED THIS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THEY PROVIDED WITH THE EMCEE D.C. ASKED FOR IN THE BEGINNING I DID NOT FEEL LIKE THEY WERE TRYING TO HIDE E ANYTHING BECAUSE I HAVE TO STUDY THIS S FURTHER.

THEN WHEN THEY WERE ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION THEY IMMEDIATELY PROVIDED IT.UST SO YOU WILL KNOW THE ONLY WAY I ABOUT THIS WAS IT WAS ON THE CALENDAR WE GET OUR UPCOMING ITEMS COMING UP WHICH GAVE ME A CHANCE TO STUDY EARLY THAT'S HOW I WAS ABLE TO START

STUDYING A COUPLE WEEKS EARLY. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY UESTIONS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

STATEMENT AND A MOTION. >> I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. LET'S LET HIM ASK HIS UESTIONS.

COUNSEL I WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT I SAID EARLIER IF YOU WANT TO MAKE STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS ADDRESSING EACH OTHER TO ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS TO EACH OTHER

BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> HEY ALLEN LET'S SAY THERE'S $10,000 LEFT OVER. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR 190 WHEN THEY SAID THE COURT COST IS 216. LET'S SAY THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER.

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WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER? >> WE KEEP THE MONEY.

IT DOESN'T GO BACK BUT STAYS IN OUR ACCOUNT. WE ARE ONLY PAYING ONCE WE GET

INVOICES. >> DOES GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND?

>> WE DID THE SAME THING WITH A LOT OF PROJECTS. PEOPLE HAVE A NUMBER OF SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN IN THE EVENT DOESN'T HAPPEN WE DON'T JUST PAY.

WE ONLY PAY OFF RECEIPTS. BOOKS WHEN YOU GET THE FINANCIALS FOR THIS LEAGUE WHO ARE THE PEOPLE ON THE 501(C)(3) ILLICIT IS RUNNING THE AGUE. YOU ARE RILEY.

>> WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE AGENDA AND IS THAT THAT APPROPRIATE?

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER? YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> ALLEN DO YOU KNOW WHO RUNS THE LEAGUE AND LISTED AS RUNNING THE LEAGUE:

>> I DON'T. >> THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU TOLD ME A FEW WEEKS AGO.

>> COUNSEL I WILL GIVE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER THREE MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS.

WE'VE DUG? DEEP IN THIS. ANY QUESTIONS ASK NOW AND I

WILL LIMIT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO THREE MINUTES. >> QUESTION.

ARE ANY OF THE 1234 PEOPLE THAT RUN THE LEAGUE PAYING THEMSELVES AT ANY POINT DURING

THIS LEAGUE'S EXISTENCE? DO YOU KNOW? >> I WOULD KNOW THAT MORE THAN ALLEN. WE HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THEY VOTE ON OUR BUDGET

EVERY YEAR. >> WHO IS ON THE BOARD? >> I CAN NAME THEM OFF IF YOU'D

LIKE. >> JEREMY MUNOZ COME GRETCHEN HUBERT, BRETT AND ESTHER, TAMIR

BRYANT, CARLA GULLETT, MYSELF AND ALLEN MOORMAN. >> MY FIRST QUESTION WAS IS THE

BOARD PAID? ARE THEY PAID MONEY AT ALL? >> ARE LIKE TO ASK THE

ATTORNEYS ARE THESE A STANDARD QUESTION IN THESE GRANTS? >> YOU CAN ANSWER OR NOT

ANSWER. >> I CHOOSE NOT TO ANSWER. >> THIS IS TURNING INTO A

CROSS-EXAMINATION. >> YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT ON THE THREE MINUTES.

>> DO YOU RECALL A FEW WEEKS AGO YOU TOLD ME RILEY AND CITY COUNCILMAN ALLEN MOORMAN THEY

THEMSELVES OUT OF THE MONEY GIVEN TO THEM LAST YEAR? >> I TOLD YOU THEY WERE PAID A

SMALL HOURLY RATE FOR DOING THE SCHEDULE. >> $16,000 EACH IS WHAT YOU

TOLD ME. >> JOE ARE WE STAYING ON TOPIC? >> EVEN IF THEY ARE PAYING THEMSELVES. THEY CAN PAY THEMSELVES. FOLKS I'M CURIOUS TO WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING WE ARE GIVING THEM. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THEM.

THERE IS AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE IN THE AGREEMENT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT MONEY $191,600 WILL BE USED SPECIFICALLY. FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITIES NOT TOWARD SALARIES.

>> LESTER'S MONEY THEY WERE GIVEN WAS NOT WRITTEN INTO THE RACT.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT TO PREVENT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN

THE E HE PAST. >> LESTER'S AGREEMENT ¦ >> IT WAS FACILITY USE LAST

YEAR ALSO. >> HAD WE WILL TOP. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OR COMMENTS? LIKE I SAID WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIMELINE. I WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO TAKE A SEAT AND FOR THE CROWD TO PLEASE KEEP THE NOISE LEVEL DOWN SO WE CAN HAVE OUR CONVERSATIONS.

DOES ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? YOU EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. I SUPPORT THIS BASKETBALL LEAGUE.

I WANT TO SEE IT SUCCEED. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCES AND HOW THIS WILL BE A SUSTAINABLE PROGRAM GOING FORWARD. BASED ON THE WAY IT'S BEEN FUNDED IN THE PAST AND THIS CURRENT YEAR. IF WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD IT WILL BE A DISASTER. WILL END UP HAPPENING IS THE LEAGUE IS GOING TO GO TO THE

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BASED ON THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION. >> EVERYONE GETS THREE MINUTES AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION ARE YOU DONE? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE

COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> I WANT TO FIRST SAY I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ADD. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK LONG-TERM WITH THE BASKETBALL EAGUE.

I THINK IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND I'VE NEVER EEN THIS START UP.

AND THE SUPPORT AND THE MARKETING AND THE PROFESSIONALISM OF HER.

A SPORTS LEAGUE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE BEEN SO IMPRESSED FROM DAY ONE. I WANT MY KIDS TO PLAY BECAUSE IT IS A INSIDE SPORT AND I DON'T HAVE TO SIT OUTSIDE AND SWEAT ALL THE TIME. I WANT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND I WILL VOLUNTEER OR WHATEVER COMMITTEE SO WE CAN HAVE LONG-TERM CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. FOR THIS COMPOSITION I'M SO SORRY IT HAS GONE THIS THIS IS IS STRAIGHT IGHT POLITICS STRAIGHT POLITICS. IF ANYBODY ELSE WERE INVOLVED HERE WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. THAT MAKES ME ANGRY.

IT IS DESPICABLE. WE'VE NEVER BERATED MADHOUSE LIKE THIS.

WE'VE NEVER ASKED THESE QUESTIONS. IF WE WERE ANYBODY ELSE INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION IT WOULD NOT HAVE GONE THIS FAR.

TO ACT LIKE WE ONLY HAD THE PACKET SINCE THURSDAY OR WE DON'T KNOW THE QUESTIONS I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT WORD. IT IS NOT TRUE INFORMATION. WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR WEEKS AND HAVE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO PREPARE. THAT'S MY STATEMENT.

I'M DONE. >> MIKE YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATEMENT, QUESTIONS BUT KEEP

THIS ON TOPIC. >> I WILL SAY I BET IT IS THOROUGHLY AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DEVELOP THE COURTS AND PAY FOR THESE 10 COURTS. WHEN YOU START WRAPPING YOUR BRAIN AROUND IT BECAUSE I'VE TALKED WITH THE VICE AND THE COCHAIR ABOUT THIS IN DEPTH ABOUT HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY. IT HAS TO BE $1 MILLION A QUART. I'M LEANING MORE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

IS IT CHEAPER FOR US TO BUILD FACILITIES AND DO ALL OF THIS OR CHEAPER FOR US TO FUND IT ON THE LIGHT SIDE AND ALLOW THEM TO FIND A PLACE TO RUN THEIR OWN FACILITIES AND DO GOOD DEEDS. I KNOW WHEN I TALKED WITH BASKETBALL, SOCCER AND FOOTBALL ALL OF THE P&L STATEMENTS LINED UP AND ALL THE DEBT REVENUES LINED UP.

OTHER SPORTS LEAGUES TO HAVE SALARY REGISTERS AND WHAT NOT TO DO EVERYTHING.

I'VE TRIED TO TALK TO RILEY AND ALLEN ABOUT THIS AND MADE THE MISTAKE ON CALLING THEM ON THE WEEKEND WHEN THE GAMES WERE GOING. THEY COULD NOT CARRY ON A CONVERSATION WITH ME ON THE PHONE. IT IS CONSTANT.

WE NEED A REFEREE THERE. I HAVE TO GET OFF THE PHONE. I TRIED TO MEET WITH THE CHAIR ONE EVENING TO DISCUSS THINGS BUT HE COULD NOT CARRY ON A CONVERSATION AT THE DINNER TABLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. HIS PHONE WAS GOING OFF LIKE A SLOT MACHINE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. I DON'T THINK IT WILL HURT A THING TO FUND THIS FOR A YEAR AND WE CAN WATCH IT AS IT GROWS.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO KEEP GOING BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING A GOOD THING.

>> I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >> I WILL ASK FOR THE MOTION. EVERY COUNCILMEMBER GOT THREE MINUTES. I HAVE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION.

THERE'S BEEN SOME GOOD TALK TONIGHT AND DEBATES. I WANT TO LET ALL THE CITIZENS KNOW AND THE COUNCILMEMBERS TO REMEMBER WE WERE PUT HERE BY THE CITIZENS.

WHEN WE VOTE WE MAY NOT AGREE OR DISAGREE THAT WE ARE EACH ENTITLED TO THAT VOTE.

VOTE HOW YOU FEEL IS RIGHT FOR THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. NOW THAT WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO ASK OUR QUESTIONS. WITH THAT I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS TOPIC.

>> I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE

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PARTIES IN ORDER TO BUILD A PLAN FOR SUSTAINABILITY. >> THAT SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE

TO COME BACK ON BECAUSE IT GOES BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS ONE. >> WE CAN ADD A REQUIREMENT TO

BRING IT BACK NEXT YEAR? >> THIS IS APPROVING THE FUNDING SO NOT A CONTRACTUAL

OBLIGATION. CAN ADD. >> YOU CAN KEEP OR RESEND YOUR

R MOTION BASED ON INFORMATION YOU RECEIVED. >> I WILL KEEP THE MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. >> ITEM PASSES FOUR ÃONE.

SOMEONE PLEASE LET MAYOR JUSTIN COFFMAN. LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

WE WILL RECONVENE COME IT IS FI THEIR STATE. AND WRAP THEIR CONVERSATIONS UP SIDE. YOU'RE GOING TO RESUME THE E MEETING IT IS 733 AND WE ARE BACK IN ION. WRAP THE CONVERSATIONS ONS UP OR TAKE THEM OUTSIDE.

I WOULD APPRECIATE T. ADAM TO THE RESCUE. THANK YOU ADAM WILL OPEN UP

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NEWTON SURVEY, ABSTRACT 792 AND THE JT RAWLS SURVEY, ABSTRACT 933. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT 975 S. HIGHWAY 67. (CASE NUMBER Z12-2023-045). COLBY?

>> THANK YOU TO OUR NEXT CASE FOR THIS EVENING FOR AGENDA ITEM 2023 Ã251 CASE NUMBER Z 12 Ã2023 Ã045 IS FOR SIGNAGE THE TOTAL SITE IS OUTLINED IN GREEN TO THE RIGHT OF THE SLIDE. ACRES IS 31 ACRES, OVER 31 ACRES EXISTING AT THE SITE.

OFFICE OUTSIDE STORAGE AND DISPLAY AND TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIR.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS THE APPLICANT IS COMING BEFORE YOU TO AMEND THE EXISTING PD FOR TO ALLOW FOR BUILDING SIGNAGE ON THE CURRENT BUILDING IN ESTION ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS PD R AND DESIGNATES REGIONAL MODULE. THIS DEPICTS A LARGE IMAGE OF THE EXHIBIT 27 GOING ALONG NORTH AND 67. THE NEXT SLIDE AS YOU SEE ALONG THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE HERE IS A IMAGE OF THE SITE LAYOUT OUTLINED IN THE RED CIRCLE.

THIS IS EXHIBIT FROM THE PD 4. PD FORMAT SPECIFICALLY IS IN RELATION TO ORDINANCE 652 AND THIS WAS APPROVED IN 1984. NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO AT THIS POINT.

PER THE CONCEPT PLAN THE AREA IS DESIGNATED AS SINGLE-FAMILY SO THE LEGEND WHICH IS A COLOR-CODED PLAN AS OUTLINED IN WHITE. THIS AREA IN QUESTION IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. PER THE CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE SINGLE-FAMILY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR BUILDING SIGNAGE WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS WHY THE APPLICANT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. OMMERCIAL USES EXISTED ON THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO PD FORMAT COMING INTO PLACE WHICH WOULD EXPLAIN WHY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES EXIST ON SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THAT. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR BUILDING SIGNAGE ON EXISTING BUILDING. GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT SIGNS FOR THE BUILDING. PDP OUTLINED IN YELLOW AND TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIR OUTLINED IN BLACK. PDP IS 36 SQUARE FEET AND FOUR FEET TALL. TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIR 48 SQUARE FEET AND FOUR FEET TALL AS WELL. FACING TOWARD U.S. HIGHWAY 67 MEETS ALL THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING FOR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE SIGNAGE IF APPROVED BY COUNSEL WILL BE LIMITED TO EXISTING BUILDING AND LOCATION AS YOU GUYS SEE HERE AND THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL.

JUNE 20 MAIDEN VOTED FIVE Ã ZERO TO APPROVE PRESENTED BY STAFF AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING

APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. >> THANK YOU COLBY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

DID ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CASE?

>> HELLO. MY NAME ETER THE THE OWNER. I THINK MR. COLBY SAID VERY

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WELL AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY. >> THANK YOU STAY CLOSE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> PLACE YOUR VOTE SECOND BY ED

GARDNER. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I HEARD ANY OPPOSED? ITEM CARRIES A SEVEN ÃZERO I WILL OPEN QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT OR COLBY REGARDING THIS CASE.

>> WERE THERE ANY NOTIFICATIONS SENT OUT TO THE NCE, NEARBY RESIDENTS?

>> YES SIR. SORRY I THOUGHT I HAD THAT COULD THERE WERE AROUND NINE

NOTICES THAT TALKED ABOUT OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FOR IT. >> A QUICK QUESTION COLBY.

WHEN WE WERE DOING THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SIGNAGE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS TO BUSINESSES IS IT TO BUSINESSES? IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE COUNTING IT AS TO UNITS OR IS IT ONE UNIT ON HOW TO CALCULATE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? LOOKS TO BUSINESSES.

>> BUT ONE SURFACE WHICH IS HOW WE NORMALLY DO IT FOR OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

>> CORRECT. >> COUNSEL FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

I ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOTION BY TRENTON. >> SECOND BY ANNA HAMMONDS.

PLEASE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I HEARD ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES SEVEN Ã THANK YOU. OPENING ITEM 2023-252 CONDUCT A

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PRESENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL. COLBY? >> NEXT CASE FOR THIS EVENING IS FOR ITEM 2023 Ã252. CASE NUMBER SUP09-2023-044RETREAT SIGNAGE LOCATED AT 4470 EAST HIGHWAY 287,SUITE 500 AND APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SUB TO SIGN REGULATIONS WITHIN 4.6 OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN ZONING ORDINANCE.

PROPERTY IS ZONED OMMERCIAL AND THE PLAN DESIGNATES THE AREAS ORIGINAL MODULE AND THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTS A LARGER VERSION OF THE LOCATION EXHIBIT WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN PINK. THIS IS U.S. HIGHWAY 27. THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTS PROPOSED DESIGN LAYOUT FOR THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. YOU SEE EXHIBIT ALONG THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. HOLISTIC HEALTH RETREAT. COMMERCIAL CURRENTLY ZONING REQUIRES LETTERS OR REVERSE LETTERS AND APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO PROPOSE INDIVIDUAL FLAT MIDDLE LETTERS FOR THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE OPPOSED TO THE CHANNEL LETTERS WHICH IS THE REASON WHY THEY ARE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY EXPANDING FROM ITS CURRENT SUITE 500 TWO SUITE 300 AND 400 THE APPLICANT AND SIGNAGE WILL REFLECT THE SUITES AS YOU CAN SEE BEFORE YOU AND XHIBIT. THUS I WILL NOT BE LIT INTERNALLY BUT USE EXISTING LIGHTING FIXTURES ON THE BUILDING FOR LIGHTING AND THE SIGN WILL MEET ALL THE OTHER REGULATIONS. THE COMMERCIAL ZONING.

THE NEXT SLIDE GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE MATERIALS THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO USE.

WE DO WANT TO KNOW PNC VOTED 5 TO 0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON THE JUNE 20 THE MEETING STAFF

RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. >> IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE OR WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? STATE YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU

LIVE IN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. >> I'M TARA LOWERY AO. I THINK OUR SON IS GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL AND NATURAL AS CODE ORDINANCE AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO GO OUTSIDE

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MOSTLY WE WANT TO HAVE SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE SIGN. OUR PREVIOUS AND WAS DESTROYED BY THE WEATHER. AND CRACKED AND DISCOLORED. THAT WAS ONE REASON TO HAVE IT BEAUTIFUL FOR THE DURATION OF ITS DISPLAY. WE ALSO HAVE A GOAL OF HAVING A FREESTANDING HOLISTIC RETREAT AT ONE POINT. A FREESTANDING BUILDING WE WANT TO TRANSLATE OUR SIGNAGE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE SO BEAUTIFUL TO THAT PROPERTY ONCE

WE HAVE THAT IN OUR POSSESSION. >> GREAT THANK YOU. >> STAY CLOSE WE MAY HAVE SOME

COUNSEL I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVED TO CLOSE A PUBLIC

HEARING. >> SECOND BY ANNA HAMMONDS. PLEASE VOTE SEE IF IT WORKS.

IT DOES WORK PASSES SEVEN Ã ZERO. COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR COLBY OR FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNSEL IS QUIET ALL OF A

SUDDEN. WITH THAT I ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTES. IT PASSES SEVEN ÃZERO.

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WORTH ROAD (CASE NUMBER SUP08-2023-036). COLBY? >> THANK YOU COUNSEL NEXT CASE WAS EVENING IS AGENDA ITEM 2023 Ã253. CASE NUMBER SUP08-2023-036.THIS IS FOR MULTIFAMILY AT WESTSIDE PRESERVE. THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS WITHIN WESTSIDE PRESERVE LAND DEVELOPMENT.

TOTAL SITE IN QUESTION FOR SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH IS OUTLINED IN PINK HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. 17.35 ACRES. CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND PER THE PD THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SUB TO BE APPROVED BY COUNSEL TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS ZONING IS PD 46 AND DESIGNATES AREAS HIGH DENSITY MODULES.

AGAIN THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTS THE LOCATION EXHIBIT WHICH GIVES YOU A LARGER VIEWPOINT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH U.S. HIGHWAY 287 ALONG. I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS CASE HISTORY QUICK BEFORE WE GET FURTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION. DECEMBER 14, 2021 CITY COUNCIL MEETING CITY COUNCIL VOTED FOUR Ã12 APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 146 ALSO KNOWN AS WESTSIDE PRESERVE. PART OF THE PD ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS ARE ALLOWED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE CONDITION SUB BE REVIEWED BY PNC AND CITY OUNCIL WE DO WANT TO NOTE IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER OF YOUR SCREEN TWO AREAS WERE DESIGNATED AS MULTIFAMILY ONE OUTLINED IN URPLE.

THE CIRCLE HERE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE SCREEN. IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN TO 87 YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN IS GOING UP RIGHT NOW. THIS ONE WAS ALLOWED AND CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED. WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING OUTLINED IN RED CIRCLE HERE IS DESIGNATED AS CR ÃMF WHICH STANDS FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL OR MULTIFAMILY.

MEANING AS I CAN HAVE COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND OR MULTIFAMILY. ONLY DIFFERENCE IS COMMUNITY RETAIL WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE ZONING ORDINANCE BUT HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY PNC AND COUNSEL MULTIFAMILY HAVE TO GET SEP REVIEW WHICH IS WHY THE APPLICANT IS HERE BEFORE YOU THIS IS A LARGER EXHIBIT OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN ED. FURTHER CASE HISTORY THIS DATES BACK TO OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AT THE OCTOBER 18, 2022 PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING PNC VOTED FOUR ÃONE TO APPROVE AND THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL. NOVEMBER 8, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO DENY 70 AND COUNSELS CONCERN AT THAT POINT WAS BUILDING HEIGHT. THE APPLICANT NOT MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICANT WENT BACK AND TOOK MONTHS OFF WORKING WITH STAFF TO BRING YOU GUYS A BETTER PROJECT THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING

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PNC'S PRIMARY CONCERN WAS ENOUGH COVERED PARKING FOR THE SITE WE WANT TO KNOW YOU GUYS MAY SEE AN ASTERISK AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE BUT SINCE PNC IS VOTE THE APPLICANT TO GO BACK IN AND WERE COVERED PARKING AND DETACHED GARAGE OR SPECIFICALLY WE WILL TOUCH MORE ON THAT IN THE PRESENTATION BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

NOTABLE CHANGES FROM NOVEMBER 8, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHICH IS THE LAST TIME THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MOST OF YOU GUYS ON THE BOARD. THE APPLICANT REDUCE THE BUILDING COUNT FROM 8 TO 6 AND APPLICANT UPGRADED THE ELEVATION FAC'ADE OF THE SITE T HELP IT BE MORE PLEASING ALONG THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU SEE THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL AND THIS WAS A BUILDINGS AND THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS SIX BUILDINGS. TO HELP YOU GET A BETTER LOOK AT IT ALL ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN NOVEMBER THIS WAS A BUILDINGS ALONG THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED NOW. PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS AS YOU CAN SEE THESE BUILDINGS ORIGINALLY WERE SEPARATED AND THE APPLICANT ESSENTIALLY CONNECTED THESE BUILDINGS INTO ONE WHICH WATER FROM 8 TO 6. ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL WHAT YOU GUYS ARE IN NOVEMBER WAS ELEVATION FAC'ADE PLAN AND RIGHT-HAND SIDE THIS IS THE REVISED SUBMITTAL PRESENTED TO PNC ON JUNE 20. BREAKING DOWN THE OVERALL LAYOUT APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO EARN MONEY FOR MULTIFAMILY UNITS, SIX APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALL BEING THREE-STORY MAXIMUM NOT TO EXCEED 45 FEET. ALL THESE UNITS WILL CONSIST OF ONE-BEDROOM AND TWO-BEDROOM WITH ONE BEDROOM BEING ONE OR 76 UNITS ROUGHLY 60 PERCENT AND TWO-BEDROOM UNITS BANK 108 DOM DWYER 18 UNITS AROUND 40 PERCENT.

SITE AMENITIES THESE RE MOST AMENITIES BUT OT NECESSARILY LIMITED THE MANY CLUBHOUSE FITNESS CENTER AND POOL AND SPORTS COURTS AND WALKING AND JOGGING TRAIL AND COMMON AREA SPACE FOR SIDENTS APPLICANT PROVIDES HIGH CEILINGS FOR COUNTERTOPS AND WALK-IN CLOSETS AND WE WILL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE AMENITIES.

THESE WERE THE PRIMARILY ONES. THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTS OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHART IN RELATION TO MULTIFAMILY REQUIREMENTS AND THE PD REQUIREMENTS.

OUTLINED IN THE SECOND COLUMN CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN STANDARDS IN REFERENCE TO MULTIFAMILY REQUIREMENTS AND THE PD REQUIREMENTS. THIRD ROW DEPICTS OR THIRD: EXCUSE ME DEPICTS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IN THE FAR RIGHT-HAND COLUMN SHOWS WHETHER THE APPLICANT IS MEETING OR NOT. I KNOW THIS IS HARD TO READ SO FORGIVE US ABOUT THAT THE APPLICANT IS MEETING ALL REQUIREMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT. PER OUR MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS SHOULD NOT EXCEED TWO STORIES AND APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE FOR PARKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SITE OR DEVELOPMENT TWO OR 64 WILL BE REQUIRED 132 DETACHED AT 132. APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 49 CARPORTS AND 114 DETACHED GARAGE SPACES WITH THE REMAINING BEING UNCOVERED GUYS MAY ALSO SEE AT THE BOTTOM WE MENTIONED APPLICANT DID MAKE CHANGES IN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO PNC 70 CARPORTS AND 70 DETACHED GARAGES WE WANTED TO MAKE THE APPLICANT DID DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CARPORTS AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DETACHED GARAGES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE WILL SPEAK MORE TO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTS LANDSCAPE PLAN AND APPLICANT IS PROVIDING SUFFICIENT LANDSCAPING FOR THE SITE.

IT'S HARD TO READ HERE BUT THIS BLUE LIGHT GOING AROUND THE PROPERTY DEPICTS A SIX FOOT WROUGHT-IRON FENCE WHICH WILL HAVE MASONRY COLUMNS SPACED EVERY 50 FEET.

SURROUNDING THE DEVELOPMENT. THE NEXT FEW SLIDES DEPICT ELEVATION FAC'ADE PLAN.

MAXIMUM HEIGHT RESOURCES NOT TO EXCEED 45 FEET IN HEIGHT AND PRIMARY MATERIALS WILL CONSIST OF STUCCO AND STONE MATERIAL. THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTS THE CONCEPT ELEVATION RENDERING OF WHAT THE FINISHED PRODUCT WILL LOOK LIKE. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS CARPORTS AS YOU SEE AT THE TOP HERE AND DETACHED GARAGES CHIMERIC MATERIALS STUCCO AND STONE FOR

THE GARAGES AND CARPORTS HAVE A METAL ROOF ALONG TOP. >> ONE MORE TIME I WANT TO SHOW THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT NGED WHEN HE WENT TO PNC AND CURRENTLY PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

THE APPLICANT ORIGINALLY PRESENTED 78 CARPORTS WHICH IS SHOWN IN GREEN.

ON BOTH SIDES AND 70 DETACHED GARAGES WHICH IS OUTLINED IN PINK.

THE APPLICANT DID IN BETWEEN THE LAST PNC MEETING AND I WAS DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CARPORTS WHICH IS 49 AND OUTLINED IN GREEN. INCREASED NUMBER OF DETACHED GARAGES WHICH IS OUTLINED IN PINK. THIS GETS MORE DETAIL.

WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY FOR THE PD IS OUTLINED IN THE SECOND COLUMN HERE.

WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS ALONG THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE.

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AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION THE FUTURE PLAN DESIGNATED AREAS ARE HIGH DENSITY MODULE NO MORE THAN 18 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE BE ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT IS UNDER THAT NUMBER FOUR TIA BACK IN 2021 THE APPLICANT DID A FULL DETAILED TIA ANALYSIS FOR THE OVERALL WEBSITE PRESERVE DEVELOPMENT.

WITHIN THE TIA LISTED THREE SPECIFIC OVERALL USES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING, MULTIFAMILY WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW AND SHOPPING CENTER WHICH IS PRIMARILY YOUR RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES.

THE PRIMARY THING IS BETWEEN THREE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND WILL HAVE THE LOWEST NUMBER PER DAY IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT SITE LAYOUT AND PARKING AGAIN EVEN WITH THE REVISION THE APPLICANT IS NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR GARAGE STANDARDS AND PARKING STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOWEVER WE WANT TO NOTE THAT AS YOU GUYS SEE IN THIS COMPARISON SLIDE ALONG THE LEFT-HAND SIDE HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE CURRENT SUBMITTAL BEING PRESENTED THIS EVENING AND PRESENTED TO PNC.

LEFT-HAND SIDE AFTER THE APPLICANT GOT DENIED BACK IN NOVEMBER HE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TRY TO COME UP WITH BETTER REVISIONS SO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS ESSENTIALLY MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING HOWEVER AS YOU SEE THIS IS A VERY CONGESTED SITE COMING INTO THE ENTRYWAY OF THE CITY ON 127 WE FEEL THIS WAS THE MOST AESTHETICALLY PLEASING LOOK FOR THE SITE WE UNDERSTAND WE MAKE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR APPLICANTS TO MEET AND ALSO HAVE REQUIREMENTS BUT THE BEST LOOKING DEVELOPMENT IN FRONT OF PNC AND COUNSEL FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE A DECISION.E DO WANT TO NOTE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR PROPOSAL OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT. PNC VOTED TO DENY FIVE ÃZERO HOWEVER WE WANT TO NOTE THEY WANT TO SEE MORE COVERED PARKING AND APPLICANT PROVIDED MORE COVERED PARKING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

AS PRESENTED. >> TAMMY DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? THE NAME OF THE FIRST SPEAKER? DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND MENTIONED WHETHER YOU LIVE IN

THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> HI LISA HEALY I LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. I ACTUALLY SPOKE THE LAST TIME THIS WAS IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. I ENCOURAGE YOU AGAIN TO DENY THIS AS AS THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS OUTSIDE WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWABLE. AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I'VE SPOKEN IN THE PAST ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL AND PNC HAD A WORKSHOP.

YOU GUYS DISCUSSED ABOUT THE CHANGES FROM THE TIME IT WAS VOTED ON IN PNC TO IT COMING IN FRONT OF YOU. YOU GUYS NEED TO CHANGE THE PROCESS.

IF IT IS DENIED AND WORK WITH CITY STAFF AND MAKE CHANGES. IT SHOULD GO BACK TO PNC LET THEM VOTE ON IT. AND IF IT'S APPROVED IT SHOULD COME BACK TO OU.

I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STICK WITH THE GUIDELINES.

IN CLARK I BELIEVE YOU SAID IN THE LAST MEETING IF WE DON'T PUT A HANDLE ON THIS WE ARE GOING TO KEEP BUILDING THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED.

EVEN THOUGH WE APPROVED THINGS IN THE PAST WE HAVE TO WRITE THAT SHIP NOW.

I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST THIS IS YOU P.

THANK >> I ASSUME YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION TO MAKE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT AFTER WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WE

WILL HEAR FROM APPLICANT. >> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOTION FROM CLARK WICKLIFFE. IT PASSES SEVEN ÃZERO. DO YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD

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THIS PROPERTY AND MAY BE SEMANTICS BUT WE ARE NOT REQUESTING A ZONING REQUEST TONIGHT. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED THERE WAS A QUESTION SOME OF THE STAFF AND COUNSEL PEOPLE HAD WRESTLED WITH IN THE PAST I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR IT IS KNOWN CR Ã MF Ã18 WHICH ALLOWS FOR 302 APARTMENT UNITS HOWEVER IT REQUIRES ASU P TO BE APPROVED AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE APPLYING FOR TONIGHT. THANKS FOR HEARING US DO WANT TO REITERATE WE TOOK MORE THAN HALF THE CARPORTS AND TURN THEM INTO GARAGES AND AT ONE OINT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT AT WHICH TOOK THE CARPORTS TOWARD THE ENTRY OF THE PROJECT WERE THE WRONG CUL-DE-SACAS. SOMEBODY HAS TO HELP ME WITH THAT.

>> THAT WAS FINE WHERE YOU ARE AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE ALL THOSE IN PURPLE ARE GARAGES.

THE GREEN WAS CARPORTS. THE REASON WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO IT THAT WAY WAS NOT JUST TO HELP THE RATIO BUT WHEN A PERSON PULLS INTO THE PARKING LOT IT IS MORE PLEASING.

YOU COVERED YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE THE CARPORTS. DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD WE TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND THOUGHT WOULD YOU SEE THE CARPORTS AND NOW YOU WON'T. I HAD A COUPLE FOLKS SAY WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE DRIVING FROM THE WEST. WE ARE CALLING AT HIDDEN HILLS BECAUSE IT'S HIDDEN IN THE HILLS IF ANYONE WANTS TO I BROUGHT PRINTED RENDERINGS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT I DON'T WANT TO OVERSELL. I WILL HAND THOSE OUT REAL QUICK.

GETTING BACK TO A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS. WHEN WE CHANGE THE BUILDINGS WE WENT DOWN FROM EIGHT BUILDINGS TO SIX BUILDINGS BUT THERE IS ONE GREAT BIG BUILDING.

IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A WRAP. WE FEEL THAT IT IS A MORE PLEASANT REASON TATIAN IN PARTICULAR AS YOU APPROACH THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF HAVING SEPARATE BUILDINGS.

THERE IS TO PROBABLY STYLE APARTMENTS. ONE CALLED GARDEN STYLE AND ONE WRAP. I'M GOING TO CALL IT A URBAN GARDEN BECAUSE IT INCORPORATES THE WRAP IN WITH THE GARDEN STYLE. IT GIVES A BETTER FEELING AND NOT JUST YOUR OLD TIMING APARTMENT. WHETHER OR NOT IT IS MORE OR LESS APPEALING IN OUR OPINION WE FELT IT IS. IT GIVES IT A BETTER PRESENTATION. ONE LAST POINT. NO ONE HAS HARPED ON OR BROUGHT UP OR THE RIGHT WORD. WE'RE BUILDING A LOT OF ACCESS ROADS IN THIS PROJECT WILL HELP SUPPORT THOSE ACCESS ROADS. WE ARE IN THIS PROJECT BUILDING TWO MILES OF ACCESS ROADS AND I KNOW THAT'S A BIG THING WITH THE CITY. WE WANT TO HELP DO OUR PART AND HOPEFULLY THIS PROJECT HELPS MOVE THAT FORWARD SHORT OF THAT I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU

HAVE ANY 4. >> COUNSEL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF?

>> MR. JOE YOU MENTIONED ACCESS ROADS A MOMENT AGO. HIS CONSTRUCTION OF THE ACCESS ROADS REQUIRED OF YOU OR SOMETHING YOU ARE TRYING TO DO TO ENSURE THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS

MEETING THE NEEDS TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. >> IT IS REQUIRED IN THE PD WE BUILD THE ACCESS ROADS WHETHER YOU APPROVE THIS OR NOT I'M GOING TO BUILD IT SO I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU. THIS HELPS SUPPORT AND MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO DO IT.

WE ARE NOT, LET ME LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

SO TRAFFIC IS ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK.

>> WE'RE BUILDING IT RIGHT NOW AND IT'S DOWN TO WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC IS BEING BUILT NOW.

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>> TO GET MY BRAIN WRAPPED AROUND TOPOGRAPHY AND ELEVATIONS IS THAT SPOT IN THE

RED CIRCLE NOT ONE OF THE LOWER POINTS? >> YES IT GOES LOWER.

>> IN OTHER WORDS IT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS HIGHWAY AND THE SPILLAGE LIKE US TO THE LIGHT

WHICH REQUIRES MORE POINTS OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING THAT WAY. >> CORRECT.

>> WHERE ARE THE TOWNHOMES THAT? AS I'M DRIVING FROM MANSFIELD

TOWNHOMES ARE 2 AND A HALF OR THREE STORIES CANNOT. >> 2 AND A HALF.

>> THEREFORE THE TOWNHOMES ARE GOING TO BE AT A MUCH HIGHER ELEVATION.

EVEN AFTER THE COMMERCIAL IS DONE THEY WILL BE WELL BELOW 2 AND A HALF STORIES AND RESIDENTIAL DOWN BELOW. THE TOWNHOMES COULD ACTUALLY SERVE AS A BACKDROP IN A WAY DEPENDENT ON THE ELEVATION THESE ARE BUILT. I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY MIND

AROUND THAT. >> OFF OF YOUR PERSONAL VERSUS THE SECOND CAN WE GET TO THE TWO PLANS. THE ONE BY RIGHT. I KNOW YOU KNOW ALL THESE NUMBERS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A RESPECTABLE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE ON THIS CURRENT SUBMITTAL VERSUS THE OLD ONE. DO WE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN

VOLUME? >> ON THE LEFT BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT HAS LESS UNITS.

THAT WILL APPEAL TO SOME PEOPLE. THAT IS A FACT.

IT HAS A LOT MORE BUILDINGS. CORRECT WITH GARAGES. >> HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND.

I AND OF THE NUMBERS ON THE PREVIOUS. I RAN ALL MY NUMBERS ON THE COVERED GARAGES AND EVERYTHING. IT LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD 264 ATTACHED 132 DETACHED AND 132 TALK UNDERS. YOU ARE PROVIDING 528 SPACES. SOME SORT OF COVERAGE.

IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU ARE PROVIDING EVEN THOUGH IT CHANGED A HAIR YOU'VE GOT DINNER. 64 UNCOVERED. WHERE DO THOSE LIE WITHIN THAT

? THE UNCOVERED'S? >> THE UNCOVERED ARE HERE.

>> THE CENTER PORTION. >> YES THERE ARE A FEW RIGHT HERE AND HERE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE UNCOVERED IS THERE. >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

YOU'RE COVERED ARE ALL EXTERIOR AND I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE GREENERY ON THE OUTER FENCE

LINES ALSO TO HIDE FROM THE OUTSIDE? >> IT IS LANDSCAPE ALL THE WAY

AROUND. >> IS THAT A WROUGHT IRON FENCE?

>> YES. >> THAT'S ALL I WANTED. >> WHEN COLBY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDINGS REDUCING FROM 8 TO 6 THAT INCREASED THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR THE UNITS STAY THE

SAME? >> IT DECREASED SLIGHTLY IS THAT CORRECT? IT STAYED THE SAME? I GUESS THE FIRST GO AROUND IT DECREASED SLIGHTLY.

WE GOT IT BACK TO THE SAME. SORRY FOR MISS INFORMATION. >> YOU ARE FINE.

>> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. HIS THE CURRENT SUBMITTAL AT

THE HIGHER COST TO BUILD THAN THE OLD SUBMITTAL. >> YES.

>> WHAT KIND OF MONEY? >> SUBSTANTIAL. >> SEVEN FIGURES.

>> MILLIONS WE'RE BUILDING A SIMILAR I RARELY SAY STUFF LIKE THIS BUT WE ARE BUILDING THIS

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THE RENTS ARE OF HIGHER. >> ONE OTHER QUESTION. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GET INTO THE SUBMITTALS AND SEE THESE PICTURES THEY DON'T END UP LOOKING LIKE THE FINISHED

PRODUCT. >> THESE ARE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND THIS IS THEIR ARCHITECT THAT HAS WORKED WITH US. THEY WILL LOOK LIKE THIS.

>> IS THAT SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE THAT?

>> IF YOU APPROVE THIS THAT APPROVES THEY MUST. >> IT WILL NOT CHANGE MUCH.

>> NO SIR. >> COLBY ON THE TWO PHOTOS SHOWING THE ONE ON THE LEFT CAN

BE DONE BY RIGHT AND THE APPLICATIONS FROM THE CITY? >> YES THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS BY RIGHT. MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS

PROPOSED TO YOU THIS EVENING. >> COUNSEL FOR THE QUESTION? >> I'M CONFUSED.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT WHICH IS ONE BY RIGHT WAS DENIED AT THE JUNE?

THAT'S NOT THE SUBMITTAL THEY WENT BEFORE? >> WE SUBMITTED TO STAFF AND IN THE CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND OTHER FOLKS AND PEOPLE TO INTERJECT IT INCLUDING THE

CUSTOMER WE DECIDED TO WITHDRAW BEFORE THEY WENT TO PNC. >> THE ONE THAT WENT TO PNC IS

NOT THIS. THIS HAS BEEN CHANGED. >> THIS IS LESS GARAGES.

OR WE NOW HAVE MORE GARAGES. THE ONE THAT WENT TO PNC IS LIKE THIS.

>> HE IS REFERENCING THE CASE THAT GOT DENIED IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.

>> THE ONE ON THE LEFT WAS A VERY ORIGINAL SUBMISSION. >> WHICH WAS APPROVED

ORIGINALLY. >> AND WENT THROUGH COUNSEL AND DENIED BY COUNSEL AND WENT BACK TO PNC AS WHAT? WHAT WAS THE ONE THAT RECENTLY WENT THROUGH THAT WAS DENIED?

WHERE IS THAT ONE? >> I WILL LET SOMEONE DRIVING WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING

HERE. >> I'M REPEATING THE ANSWER ALREADY SAID SO FORGIVE ME.

THE LEFT AND THAT IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED LAST OCTOBER TO PNC AND COUNSEL.

PNC APPROVED ORIGINALLY. COUNSEL DENIED IT AT THAT POINT.

WHAT PNC SAW WAS BEING PRESENTED TO GUYS THIS EVENING IS ELEVATION ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE TO YOUR POINT. ONLY THING THAT CHANGED THE SITE LAYOUT WAS WAS THE CARPORT NUMBERS AND ADDING MORE GARAGES COULD ESSENTIALLY THE LAYOUT IS THE SAME.

>> THERE WAS NO CONCERN FROM PNC ON HEIGHT? >> NO.

THEY DO NOT HAVE A CONCERT WITH HEIGHT AS THEY DID WANTING MORE COVERED PARKING.

THEY DID NOT GIVE US A NUMBER OF WHAT THE COVERED PARKING WAS BUT THEY WANTED MORE COVERED

PARKING. >> WHY DID IT NOT GO BACK TO PNC FOR APPROVAL?

>> WE'VE ASKED THAT BE DONE RECENTLY. >> PNC IS A RECOMMENDING BODY WANTS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THE APPLICANT BRINGS IT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY REQUIRES THE APPLICANT. >> BUT THERE WAS CHANGES MADE.

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES AND BRING THE CASE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THE ONLY WAY TO END IT IS THE APPLICANT TO WITHDRAW THE CASE.

>> READING THE PHASES. WHEN WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT WE DON'T WANT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PNC AND COUNSEL THEY BY RIGHT AND LEGALLY CAN'T COME ON THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER PNC NO MATTER WHAT. IF WE WANTED TO WE CAN SEND IT BACK.

I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

IT IS NOT LIKE ANYBODY DID ANYTHING WRONG BY NOT SENDING IT BACK.

I WAS CONFIRMING THAT IS RIGHT JOE? >> CORRECT.

NOTHING WRONG. THE ONLY WAY IS IF THE APPLICANT WITHDREW.

COOK'S FAMILY CHANGES CAN THEY MAKE? IF THEY COME WITH ONE PLAN AND

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THE FUTURE. AND HERE WE ARE. >> THEY CAN MAKE, BASED ON THE COMMENTS MADE AT PLANNING AND ZONING THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES TO WHAT THEY BELIEVE HELP THE CASE PASS AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. THEY CAN MAKE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.

>> JOE CAN I ASK A QUESTION? JUDGING FROM HISTORY PNC WAS CHANGED FROM A BODY TO ADVISORY

SOME YEARS AGO. >> PNC HAS ALWAYS BEEN ADVISORY.

>> EVEN MORE SO NOW. WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WE CHANGE THAT BODY TO MORE OF AN ADVISORY SOURCE. YES OR NO?

>> I CAN ONLY SPEAK OF HISTORY. >> I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME WE CHANGED PROCEDURES OCCURRING.

>> EXACTLY MY POINT IS WE CAN SEND IT BACK TO THEM. FOR THE QUESTION THEY WANT IT FIXED IN THEIR EYES OR BETTERED WHICH WAS PARKING THEY DID THAT AND PRESENTED IT TO US.

I GUESS IF THERE WERE MAJOR CHANGES LIKE ELEVATIONS AND THEY CHANGED THE FAC'ADE AND HA GREEN SPACE CHANGES AND IF THEY MORE OR LESS CORRECTED THE MAJORITY OF THE CONCERN AND I SERVED AS A LIAISON BECAUSE I WAS AT THE MEETING. I GUESS THEY MET THE CONCERN OF THE ADVICE ISN'T THAT WHAT THE ADVISORY BOARD IS FOR? JOE?

I'M ASKING. >> CORRECT IF IT WAS COMING FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL LEVEL ON IT AND THE SITE WAS CHANGE ABSOLUTELY. THEN SEND BACK TO PNC AND GOES THROUGH A PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. BASICALLY START THE PROCESS OVER WE HAVE CASES THAT HAVE GONE THE PNC AND THEY DENIED THEM AND THEN THEY COME TO US AND THEY BEEN CHANGED BASED ON DENIAL. FOR CASES THAT HAVE GONE TO PNC AND THEY GET APPROVED AND COME TO US AND WE CHANGED IT. AND MAKE RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE SITE PLANS AND THEY COME BACK TO US AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS A SEPARATE CASE.

THERE IS FLEXIBILITY. THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY. >> CHEMICAL BACK TO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING BY RIGHT AND WHAT'S PROPOSING NOW? I'M GOING TO ASK AT THE SAME WEIGHT WITH A DIFFERENT ENDING. JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU CAN BUILD ON THE LEFT BY RIGHT TOMORROW.

>> YES SIR. >> CAN I INTERJECT REAL QUICK? HE WOULD HAVE TO ACQUIRE A USE

PERMIT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BUT NO VARIANCES REQUIRED. >> THAT'S WHERE I WAS HEADED.

NO MATTER WHAT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY BUT HE HAS TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT EVEN IF HE MEETS ALL THE STANDARDS. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS BUT FOR CLARIFICATION IF HE MEETS EVERY SINGLE CITY STANDARD AND APPLIES FOR SUB AND WE DENY

THAT'S NOT A GOOD HING. >> PROBABLY NOT A QUESTION YOU WANT ME TO NSWER.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> HE HAS TO GET A SEP NO

MATTER WHAT. >> YES OR. >> COUNSEL FURTHER QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> THE PURPOSE F THIS IS TO ADDRESS SECONDARY Y EFFECTS NOT

ECIFIC C ZONING. TO ADDRESS THE SECONDARY. >> ALLEN?

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I'M NEW TO THIS AND THIS MAY SOUND EVEN MORE SIMPLIFIED BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING ANSWERS TO CLARK'S QUESTIONS.

I LOOK AT THIS SINCE WE GOT THE PACKET AND FROM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN THE SIMPLEST WAY TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO VOTE TONIGHT AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS PIECE OF LAND IS GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY OR NOT? WE ARE DECIDING WHICH VERSION OF A PROJECT MR. JOB WANTS TO DO. IN LAYMAN'S TERMS IS THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING?

>> ESSENTIALLY AS OUR ATTORNEY JOE STATED MULTIFAMILY IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE PD AND IS REQUIRING THE SUB. THE ONE THAT IS SHOWN AS CURRENT SUBMITTAL IS THE ONE HE WANTS MR. JOB WANTS TO CONSTRUCT A POST OF THE ONE ON THE LEFT.

WHAT YOU GUYS ARE VOTING ON IS THIS TONIGHT. >> THE UNITS ARE THE SAME IN

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BOTH OF THESE? >> CORRECT. >> THE UNITS ARE NOT THE SAME.

>> WANT TO MAKE ANY MISREPRESENTATION. I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU SAY THAT. THERE ARE LESS UNITS. THERE'S MORE BUILDINGS ON THE

LEFT. LESS LIVABLE UNITS. >> OKAY.

LESS PEOPLE LIVING THERE. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LESS PEOPLE BUT LESS UNITS.

>> THE ONE ON THE RIGHT WILL COST MILLIONS OF MORE DOLLARS. >> I THINK I FOUND THE ANSWER.

YOU ARE BY RIGHT ALLOWED TO HAVE 302 MAX UNIT COUNTS AND THE CURRENT PROPOSAL YOU ARE

SHOWING SAYS 294. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> QUESTION FOR STAFF OF THE OTHER MULTIFAMILY WE HAVE IN TOWN, TRYING TO CLARIFY. DO THEY MEET THOSE STANDARDS OR

DO THEY HAVE VARIANCES AS WELL? >> I'M NOT SURE ANY THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS FOR SURE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO HISTORICALLY THOSE WERE BUILT TO AT THAT TIME AND WHAT STANDARDS WERE THERE BUT I KNOW THAT MARK DID NOT MEET STANDARDS AND THAT'S

ONE FRESH IN MY MIND. >> LIKELY NONE OF THEM MEET THE STANDARDS CURRENTLY.

>> AND RECITE 100 PERCENT BUT 90 PERCENT NOT THE MEET THE CURRENT STANDARD.

>> MR. ALLEN MOORMAN WE DID A TABLE AND I DID NOT BRING IT MY APPROACH TO COUNSEL MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN SOME PEOPLES. WHAT YOU GUYS TO HINK I'M TRYING BLUDGEON YOU IN ANY WAY.

I RESPECT THE COUNCILS WISHES AND THIS IS WHAT WE WISH TO DO AND I HOPE WE CAN ALIGN.

TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THE ATTORNEY AND STUFF ASSET WE DID NOT SEE ANY OF THEM BEING REPORTED.

JUST TO REITERATE. >> NONE OF THE OTHER MULTIFAMILY MEET THOSE? THEY HAVE VARIOUS VARIATIONS OF THAT? MULTIFAMILY WILL NOT STOP ON THIS PROPERTY. YOU WANT TO BUILD ONE THAT WILL COST YOU A LOT MORE MONEY AND BE A LOT NICER. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.

>> YES SIR. >> COUNSEL ANY FINAL COMMENTS? >> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE LAYOUT OF THE ELEVATIONS.

AS I'M DRIVING THROUGH HERE AT THIS POINT I SEE THE LOTS BEING BENCHED.

WHERE YOU HAD THAT AS I'M DRIVING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT THESE LOTS BEING BENCHED AND

PARDON ME? >> LOOKED BACK THROUGH THEIR NC LOTS GOING UP.

I'M ENVISIONING LOOKING AT ROOFTOP AFTER ROOFTOP AFTER ROOFTOP AFTER ROOFTOP.

I'M ENVISIONING THE TOWNHOMES AND I'M COMING FROM MANSFIELD I'M COMING FROM MIDLOTHIAN.

THIS IS FROM THE LOW END OF ALL THIS. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO HIDE SOME OF THE ROOFTOP STUFF GOING ON A LITTLE BIT IN MY MIND STAFF CONSIDERED THE LOW END OF THAT AND HOW WHETHER YOU'RE COMING FROM MANSFIELD AND YOU HAVE THE TOWNHOMES BEHIND IT. I THINK THE TOWNHOMES COME UP IN THE CENTER TO 2 AND A HALF TORIES TO REALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT STICKING UP SO HIGH AS YOU'RE COMING FROM MIDLOTHIAN YOU HAVE THE ROOFTOPS ON THE WEST SIDE.

ARE ANY OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS WITH AN ELEVATION AND THE HEIGHT OF THE THREE-STORY

VERSUS THE TWO-STORY? >> LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY.

>> WHEN I'M DRIVING ALONG AND LOOKING IF WE BUILT A TWO-STORY AND I'M COMING FROM MANSFIELD.

DO I SEE MORE TOWNHOMES OR IF I'M COMING FROM MIDLOTHIAN? IF YOUR BUILDING TWO-STORY VERSUS THREE-STORY. I'M ASKING DID ANY OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND TO PLAY FOR ELEVATIONS? THIS IS ON THE LOW END. IT IS HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT.

>> I WANT TO JUMP IN TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE DRIVING IN FROM THE WEST.

THIS IS MULTIFAMILY AND ARE TALKING ABOUT TOWNHOMES DOWN HERE.

I KNOW THIS TERRAIN GOES UP AND DOWN. YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF THESE HOUSES THAT WILL BE BLOCKING VIEWS RIGHT HERE. I DON'T THINK WE LOOKED AT HOW

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LOW THIS IS COMPARED TO HOW HIGH IT COMES TO. >> I KNOW THE TOPOGRAPHY IS ROLLING AND I'M NOTICING WITH THE WAY THEY ARE BEING BENCHED WE WILL LOOK AT ROOFTOP AFTER ROOFTOP. I'M WONDERING IS THERE WAYS TO HIDE SOME OF THIS A LITTLE BIT?

>> WITH THE TOWNHOMES OBVIOUSLY AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IT IS EASIER BECAUSE IT'S AT THE LOWEST POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IF YOU WILL. ECHOES DOWN AS YOU GO DOWN TO

87 BUT HARDER BECAUSE IT IS FRONT AND CENTER. >> IT IS AT THE LOW END.

>> BUT VISIBLE FROM THE HIGHWAY. A POST OF THESE BEING AT THE

LOWER END. >> CAN I USE YOUR POINTER. I DO KNOW THIS PROJECT PRETTY WELL. THIS END IS LOW. THIS END IS LOW.

THIS IS LOW. THESE ARE NOT AS HIGH AS THESE. THIS IS A HIGHER POINT THEN THIS. THIS IS A HIGHER POINT THEN THIS.

THIS IS A HIGHER POINT THEN THIS. IT MAY BE ABOUT THE SAME.

THIS IS THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE ENTIRE ONE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HERE AND HERE IS ALMOST 60 FEET. IT DROPS OFF SIGNIFICANTLY. BY THE TIME YOU GET DOWN HERE I WOULD SAY OVER 60 FEET. FROM DRIVING DOWN HERE IT DEPENDS ON ONE'S OPINION OF WHAT THEY LIKE. I LIKE ALL THIS UP AND DOWN AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I THINK IT'S MORE INTERESTING. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT MY OPINION IS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT

IT IS. >> I'M THINKING WHAT AM I GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AS I'M DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY. ROOFTOP AFTER ROOFTOP. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. THE VERY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU AND THIS IS A LITTLE DEEP ONE.

I SAT IN I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I WAS ON PNC OR COUNSEL IN THE EARLY YEARS WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS GARAGE REQUIREMENTS TO THE REQUIREMENT SIDE. I REMEMBER SOMEBODY SAYING WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WERE ON A TREND OF DOING WHAT FOLKS THOUGHT WAS BEST.

IT IS OBVIOUS WHAT HE IS BRINGING, THE UNCOVERED PARKING SPOTS IN THE CENTER WHERE NOBODY WILL SEE THEM, WHY EXACTLY DO WE NEED, WHY WOULD THE REQUIREMENT BE YOU HAVE 100

PERCENT GARAGES? WHY? >> IT IS INCREASING THE STANDARDS REMEMBER THE COMPLINE CALLED FOR INCREASING STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY? THIS WAS AN AMENITY TO INCREASE THE STANDARDS WE INCREASED GREEN SKATE LANDSCAPING.

QUICK'S INCREASING THE STANDARDS FOR WHAT CONCEPT. IS IT FOR THE STANDARDS FOR FOLKS WITHIN THE APARTMENT OMPLEX? THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT CARS. YOU'VE GOT GREEN SPACE ALONG THE DGES IF YOU HAVE SOME, THERE'S NO WAY ANYONE CAN SEE UNLESS THE TOPOGRAPHY IS MESSED ED UP WHAT IS THE BENEFIT IN

HAVING THAT? >> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ENCLOSED PARKING SPOTS.

>> I GET THAT FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT I GET IT IF IT'S AFFECTING PEOPLE SING FROM THE OUTSIDE N. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY 100 PERCENT REQUIREMENT.

I'M WONDERING. >> I THINK IT WAS A THRESHOLD WE PUT.

>> JUST SOMETHING WE DO. THANK YOU. >> THE BAYREUTH DEVELOPMENT

THAT WAS PROPOSED, HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS WAS THAT? >> 24.

>> THIS BEFORE US IS HOW MANY? WE ARE LOOKING AT 100 ADDITIONAL UNITS, MORE DENSITY

IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR BASICALLY. >> I THINK TOTAL UNITS COULD.

>> HE'S TALKING ABOUT COVERED PARKING. >> LIVABLE UNITS.

ON THE LEFT VERSUS THE RIGHT. >> 100 ADDITIONAL UNITS ON THE SAME PROPERTY.

>> NOT ADDITIONAL. >> I GET THAT. >> WHAT CAN WE DO BY RIGHT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> COUNSEL, FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ANYONE? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

AS PRESENTED. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED SECOND.

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FIVE ÃTWO. THANK YOU. DOES THE CITY HALL HAVE AIR CONDITIONING? THANK YOU ADAM. OPENING ITEM 2023-254 CONDUCT A

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(CASE NUMBER OZ02-2023-24). MARY? WHAT'S THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE LARIFICATION FOR REQUIREMENTS AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO PLANNING. THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE SECTION 312 APPLICATION PROCESS PROVIDES A DEFINITIVE TIMEFRAME FOR DETERMINING COMPLETENESS OF APPLICATION.

THE REVISION WE ARE PROPOSING WILL MAKE ITMORE CONSISTENT WITH TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 212 WHICH GOVERNS SUBDIVISIONS. THE CURRENT LANGUAGE ALLOWS STAFF TO HOLD ONTO A COMPLETE APPLICATION FOR 45 WHICH WE DON'T DO.

THAT'S S INCONSISTENT TH THE THIRTY-DAY SHOT OT CLOCK. SECTION 15 VACATION INSTRUMENT REPOTTING AND MINOR PLOTS. WE REVISED IT TO MORE CLOSELY TRACK AND GOVERNMENT CODE 212 038. THIS RENEWS PLANS AND REPLIES AND TERMINOLOGY ECAUSE THE PLANS ARE NOT RECORDED AND RE-PLOTS ARE THE SAME AS PLOTS. THERE IS NO NEED TO REFERENCE THESE ITEMS AND THAT LANGUAGE THE ADMINISTRATOR VACATION OF A MINOR PLAT.

IF THE MINOR PLAT WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVE LATE IT ALLOWS STAFF TO IMMEASURABLY APPROVED THE VACATION SO THAT'S A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT. IT MORE CLOSELY TRACKS THE

GOVERNMENT CODE FEBRUARY 12, 2013 B. >> ARE USING THE SECTION 412 SITE PLANS. THE TION IS INFORMATION THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE ON SITE PLANS UNLESS THE DOC DETERMINES THEY ARE INAPPLICABLE SO WE REVIEWED THE ITEMS LISTED ON N THESE REFERENCE TO OTHER SECTIONS OF THE SUBDIVISION ON ORDINANCE. THERE IS EFFECTIVE.

FOR SITE PLANS AND WE MADE SURE IT COINCIDES WITH THE PLAT. I KNOW THIS IS EXCITING STUFF.

SECTION 413 PRELIMINARY PLATS. IT PROVIDES THAT PROPERTY CAN BE DEVELOPED IN PHASES USING PHASING PLANS. THE ROUTE THE SECTION THE TERMS PHASING PLAN AND PHASING ARE USED INTERCHANGEABLY. THERE IS A REFERENCE TO MASTER PLOT WHICH IS IN DEFINING THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. IN CONTEXT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PHASING OR PHASING PLANS.

WE CORRECTED THAT. IN ADDITION WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TERMS ARE DEFINED CLEARLY.

SECTION 414 FINAL PLAT. CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IN FEBRUARY 28TH OF THIS YEAR 70 EIGHT TJ LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH JOHNSON COUNTY BETWEEN JOHNSON COUNTY AND MIDLOTHIAN WHICH MAKES JOHNSON COUNTY COUNTY OF RECORD. WE ARE ADDING THEM INTO THE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE. ABOUT 330 ACRES FALL WITHIN THIS IS A TJ IN JOHNSON COUNTY.

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OR NOT COUNSEL BUT PNC. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

TAMMY DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK? ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE

PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND BY CLARK WICKLIFFE. >> I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

>> CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES SEVEN ÃZERO MIKE?

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I LISTENED TO AND I SAW THIS AGENDA ITEM BUT DID NOT HAVE TIME TO CLARIFY. WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS CLARIFICATION OF CERTAIN NOTATION WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE SPACE CORRECT?> CORRECT. BOOKS WE ARE NOT MAKING THE

CHANGE TO PROCEDURAL ACTIVITY? >> CORRECT BOOKS THANK >> COUNSEL OTHER QUESTIONS?

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I HAD ONE QUESTION. I'M ASSUMING ALL CHANGES HAVE

BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL? >> MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILWOMAN? SECOND BY CLARK WICKLIFFE THE ITEM PASSES SEVEN ÃZERO. THANK YOU MARY.

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M09-2023-047). COLBY? >> THANK YOU OUR LAST PLANNING CASE THIS EVENING IS FOR AGENDA ITEM 2023 Ã255 CASE NUMBER M09-2023-047RIGHT AWAY ENCOURAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR 517 NORTH EIGHTH STREET. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE THE EXHIBIT IS OUTLINED IN PINK. THIS IS LOCATED AT 517 NORTH 8TH ST. AND THERE'S EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND THE PROPERTY IS VACANT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR SIX PARKING SPACES ALONG AVENUE B FOR RETAIL USE.

THE CURRENT PROPERTY ZONE NORTH OF EIGHTH STREET DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS ORIGINAL TONE MODULE AND THIS IS A LARGER VIEWPOINT OF THE EXHIBIT. THE DEPICTS THE SITE LAYOUT. THE EXISTING STRUCTURE OUTLINED IN RED AND CIRCLED HIS PROPOSED PARKING SPACES ALONG AVENUE B. SIX PROPOSED SPACES WITH ONE SPACE BEING HANDICAPPED.

APPLICANT INTENDS TO RELOCATE FROM VOCATION WITHIN MIDTOWN TO THIS CURRENT PROPERTY AT 517 NORTH EIGHTH STREET DUE TO OUTGROWING HIS CURRENT LOCATION.

THE APPLICANT HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO CONVERT THE INTERIOR STRUCTURE TO ALLOW FOR PRIMARILY OFFICE AND RESTROOM SPACE. THEY INTEND TO FENCE THE PROPERTY TO A CEDAR FENCE AND THIS WILL BE OUT OF CHARACTER BECAUSE WITHIN FOUR FEET THERE ARE TWO BUSINESSES THAT HAVE PARKING ALONG AVENUE B AS ELL. WE DID WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF F THAT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.

ONE MORE NOTE THIS DID NOT GO TO PNC FOR REVIEW BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT GO STRAIGHT TO

COUNSEL. >> TAMMY DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK? WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND WE WILL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND MENTS.

WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING PARKING NG RIGHT? THEY HAVE THE PROPER ZONING?

CORRECT. >> I THINK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WOULD AGREE THAT ME IN PARTICULAR I AM A SUPPORTER OF THE CITY GETTING OUT OF THE WAY OF SMALL BUSINESS IN THE TOWN AND TRYING TO MAKE THINGS EFFICIENT FOR THEM SO THEY CAN RUN AND OPERATE AND BE PROFITABLE. I THINK APPEARING AS WE DO THAT.

SECOND OF ALL PARKING IN OUR TOWN CAN OFTEN BE APPOINTED IN TENSION.

ANYTIME WE HAVE A CHANCE TO IMPROVE PARKING I WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE AND HELP THESE

BUSINESSES AND HELP CITIZENS WITH MORE PARKING SPOTS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

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COMMENTS? >> I LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT, I FELT THE AIR KICK ON I APPRECIATE RETAILERS THAT INVEST IN OUR DOWNTOWN SECTORS AS WELL.

ASK ONE QUESTION. IS THE SIDEWALK GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE AND REBUILD? IF SO WILL THE CITY BEAR THE COST? THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE

SIDEWALK. >> THEY ARE TAKING OUT THIS ONE.

ABOUT 20 FEET. >> HERE IS THE EXISTING ONE. >> THAT SIDEWALK THE APPLICANT

IS BUILDING THE SIDEWALK AS WELL? >> IS THAT THE STANDARD PARKING STALL? 18 IN DEPTH? I WAS TRYING TO DO THE MATH ON HOW BIG A F2 50 TRUCK WAS HANGING OUT INTO AVENUE B I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE WILL NOT

HAVE A PROBLEM. >> I WANT TO ASK ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION WHILE ON THE SUBJECT.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE WRITING OF THE ORNAMENTS WHERE WE APPROVE AN ITEM FOR THIS FOR PARKING? WE ARE GOING OFF COUNCIL MEETING AT A DEPTH OF PARKING ALLOWABLE CURBSIDE CORRECT? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN APPLICANT COMES IN DECIDES TO PUT CURB COMES DOWN TO FEET ON THE SIDE OF THAT AND I'M DRIVING MY CREW CAB 110 IN MY ROOM IS HANGING OUT IN THE STREET GYM IT IS GOING ON HERE RIGHT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT KEEP

THAT FROM HAPPENING? >> I THINK WE RELY ON THE SITE PLAN AND THEY HAVE CURB STOPS ON IT. THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT JOE WAS DOING.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A VARIANCE

PROCEDURE. THIS IS THE RECORD. >> THIS ONE HAS CURB STOPS?

>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT. >> THIS DEPTH WOULD BE THE RECORD.

WE ARE HAVE STEPS NOT MEETING THE RECORD. >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE REFERENCING. COUNSEL? CLARK?

>> THE STANDARD PARKING DEPTH IS 18 FEET? I'M BLOWN AWAY BECAUSE I HAVE THINGS 24 FEET LONG. THAT'S A INDUSTRY-STANDARD? I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD THIS CASE

UP BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS. >> MR. MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO

MAKE A MOTION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

BOOKS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE BY HUD HARTSON SECOND BY ED GARDNER. IT PASSES SEVEN ÃZERO.

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PUSH THE BUTTON IN FRONT OF YOU. >> THAT VENING.

OUR PROCESS FOR BENEFITS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER ONE OF THIS YEAR HAS RESULTED IN COST SAVINGS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO POSSESS BENEFIT OFFERINGS MORE COMPETITIVE WITH COMPARABLE CITIES. WE RECEIVED SEVERAL RESPONSES TO RFP FOR LINES OF COVERAGE INCLUDE MEDICAL, DENTAL, VISION, LIFE AND DISABILITY AND EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE CITIES FSA AND HSA MINISTRY SHOULD NOT. IN ASSESSING THE STUDIES BENEFITS WE BEGAN WITH WHAT WAS PROVIDED IN A COMPOSITION STUDY WHICH SHOWED THE CITY WAS BELOW MARKET AND THE SERVICES PROVIDED AND ANNUAL DEDUCTIBLES AND MAXIMUM OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS FOR MEDICAL INSURANCE AND THE REGULATIONS FROM THE COMPOSITION STUDY IF WE ELECT MEDICAL INSURANCE PLAN BEING PROPOSED. AND BEING PLACED IN THE PROGRAM BEING PROPOSED. THE OBJECTIVES IN OUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS INCLUDING MAINTAINING COVERAGE AND BENEFITS FOR MAINTAINING REDUCING COST TO THE CITY AND EMPLOYEES THAT IMPACT SERVICES OFFERED TAKING BENEFITS COMPETITIVE WITH COMPARABLE CITIES AND BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE BY BENEFITS BROKER HUB.

WITH THAT BEING SAID I WILL LET HEATH HAYGOOD ARQUETTE REPRESENTATIVE WITH HUB PRESENT

THE RESULTS. >> MAYOR COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

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CIGNA IS INCLUDING A BONUS ALLOWANCE OF $20,000 AND A SECOND RATE CAP OF NINE PERCENT. THE CITY WILL BE DISCONTINUING THE CURRENT BASE PPO PLAN IMPLEMENTING HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN OPTION. IN ADDITION TO ADDING THIS HSA OPTION THE CITY WILL BE CONTRIBUTING $1000 EMPLOYEE ONLY IN 2004 EMPLOYEE FAMILY TO HELP OFFSET THE INITIAL OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS THAT COME WITH HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN. AS JEFFREY SAID THE CITY WILL ALSO BE DECREASING THE OUT-OF-POCKET MAXIMUMS ON THE PPO OPTION UP TO $4000 FOR INDIVIDUAL AND 8004 FAMILY.

THOSE ARE CURRENTLY SET AT 7150 FOR INDIVIDUAL AND 14,300 FOR A FAMILY.

WHICH ARE SET ABOVE WHAT WE SEE IN OUR MUNICIPAL MARKETS. WITH THESE PLAN DESIGN CHANGES ASSUMING 10 PERCENT MIGRATION TO THE HSA PLAN WHICH IS WHAT WE SEE ROLLING OUT THIS PLAN THE CITY WILL SEE A TOTAL ESTIMATED 9.4 DECREASE IN TOTAL ANNUAL PREMIUM FOR $70,000 IN SAVINGS. THIS PROPOSED OPTION WILL BRING THE CITY IN LINE TH TH NOTICEABLE BENCHMARKS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. FOR THE DENTAL OPTION WE WILL BE RECOMMENDING TO MOVE TO UNITED CONCORDIA FOR THE NEXT PLAN YEAR 1.4 PERCENT DECREASE WITH RATES GUARANTEED FOR TWO YEARS. AT 1.4 PERCENT DECREASE INCLUDES RAISING THE DENTAL ANNUAL MAXIMUM FROM 1500 TO 2000.

GEO ACCESS RESULTS SHOW THAT 95.6 PERCENT OF EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS 2 TO DENNIS WITHIN 10 MILES. 93.9 PERCENT OF EMPLOYEES HAVE TWO SPECIALISTS WITHIN 10 MILES SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN MAKING A CARRIER CHANGE EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS.

TWO DENTISTS. THE VISION PLAN WE WILL RECOMMEND MOVING TO SURRENCY UPCOMING PLAN YEAR SURRENCY RATES ARE 10.4 PERCENT BELOW CURRENT AND GUARANTEED FOR THREE YEARS. SURRENCY USES INSIDE NETWORK WHICH IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE LARGEST NETWORKS NATIONWIDE. ALSO GEO ACCESS RESULTS SHOW 100 PERCENT OF EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS TO TWO PROVIDERS WITHIN 10 MILES. DISABILITY AND LIFE RECOMMENDING A MOVE TO OAKS WITCHES, WHICH WORKS WITH MUNICIPALITIES MOVED OAKS WILL PROVIDE THE CITY WAS $70,000 WORTH OF SAVINGS AND 24 PERCENT DECREASE.

THIS INCLUDES ENHANCING BASIC LIFE BENEFIT FROM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS $250,000.

THE VOLUNTARY LIFE FROM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS DETER $50,000 AND INCREASE LONG-TERM DISABILITY MONTHLY MAXIMUM FROM 5000 TO 10,000. FOR THE FSA AND HSA DEMONSTRATION WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO HAVE THAT THERE CIGNA.

FOR THE UPCOMING PLAN YEAR. YOU ARE CURRENTLY WITH CIGNA ON FSA ADMINISTRATION AND THAT'S $2.80 PER PARTICIPANT PER MONTH. THE HSA DEMONSTRATION WILL BE $4.95 PER PARTICIPANT PER MONTH. THE ANNUAL COST FOR THAT ADMINISTRATION WILL BE BASED ON HOW MANY EMPLOYEES EITHER ENROLLED IN THE HSA OR FSA.

FOR THE EMPLOYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WE RECOMMEND TO HAVE A STANDALONE EAP SERVICE AND THIS ONE WILL BE THROUGH DEAR OAKS. THIS INCLUDES 24/7 HOTLINE AND LEGAL FINANCIAL SERVICES AND CRITICAL INCIDENTAL SERVICES OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES AND SAFE RIDE PROGRAM AND SIX FACE-TO-FACE VISITS PER INSTANT. EAP IS AVAILABLE TO ALL FAMILY MEMBERS. THE COST IS A DOLLAR 42 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH OR ESTIMATED 406 PER MONTH. OR 4875 ON ANNUAL BASIS AND RATES ARE GUARANTEED FOR FIVE YEARS OVER ALL AND HAPPY TO PRESENT GOOD NEWS TO YOU. THIS EVENING WE'VE SEEN GOOD RESPONSES FROM THE MARKETS WE ARE LOOKING AT ENHANCING BENEFITS ACROSS THE BOARD AS

WELL AS PROVIDING STATEMENTS TO THE CITY AND EMPLOYEES. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? >> MY ONLY QUESTION TO STAFF. ANY CONTRIBUTIONS MADE AND BENEFITS IS THAT A CHANGE IN OUR BUDGET ITEMS? DO THEY GO UP OR DOWN?

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>> THEY ARE GOING DOWN. WE KEPT THE SAME SPLIT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COVERAGE.

BECAUSE OF THE DECREASES THE COST IS GOING DOWN. >> YOU DON'T HEAR THAT OFTEN

NOWADAYS. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. PLEASE VOTE. MR. ED GARDNER HAD TO STEP OUT.

IT DOES PAST SIX ÃZERO. THANK YOU STEPHANIE. WITH THAT THE LONG-AWAITED IS

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>> HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY NAME IS MARK WITH ESCAMBIA COUNTY CAPITAL MARKETS.

FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ON PROPOSED BOND ISSUES AND IS A PROPOSED IN MAY 2021 AUTHORIZED THE CITIZENS AUTHORIZED $125 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES. AS OF TODAY WE HAVE 33 MILLION 175 LEFT FOR STREETS.

WE HAVE $12 MILLION LEFT FOR THE REC CENTER. 19 SORRY FOR THE REC CENTER.

THOSE ARE VOTED BONDS AND IT TAKES ONE COUNCIL ACTION TO AUTHORIZEHEM.

M. IN N THEORY AGAIN YOU HAVE THE SCHEDULE ON AUGUST 22 WE WOULD BE COMING HERE FOR THE AUTHORIZATION. WHAT WE DON'T LIKE DOING IS COMING INTO A COUNCIL MEETING WITHOUT YOU HAVING A CHANCE TO VENT IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING AND KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON. ODAY IS THE ATTEMPT TO COME HERE AND VISIT WITH YOU ALL AND GET APPROVAL TO GO TO THE AUGUST 22 MEETING.

THERE'S LOTS OF MOVING PARTS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE FINAL VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THEY ARE COMING LATER THIS MONTH.

WE DON'T HAVE FINAL BUDGET ITEMS WHICH YOU ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT AN OVERALL TAX RATE THE CITY MAINTAINS $0.65 THE QUESTIONS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND MOVING FORWARD IS CAN WE DO $12 MILLION WORTH OF GENERAL OBLIGATION FUNDS FOR STREETS AND MAINTAIN THAT TAX AND SEVERAL ITEMS BUDGETED AND DISCUSSED UP TO $5 MILLION OF TAX NOTES.

TAX NOTES ARE ANOTHER BORROWING MECHANISM THAT IS CONSIDERED SHORT-TERM.

WE ARE LOOKING AT TWO OR THREE YEAR MAXIMUM TERM. MOSTLY THOSE ARE FOR EQUIPMENT, HEAVY EQUIPMENT, POLICE VEHICLES, CAN BE USED FOR PARKS AND USED FOR ROADS.

IT IS A SHORT-TERM FUNDING MECHANISM. THOSE ARE THE TWO FINANCING ITEMS. 12 MONTH FOR STREETS AND $5 MILLION TAX NOTES FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES THAT IN THEORY WITH YOUR PERMISSION WE WOULD COME BACK AUGUST 22.

THE GOALS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH STAFF IS CAN WE GET IT DONE THIS TIME OF YEAR AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM ISSUED PRIOR TO YOU ALL SETTING YOUR TAX RATE.

CAN WE DO IT AND MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THE EXISTING TAX RATE OR BELOW? BOTH THOSE ARE YES. IN ADDITION TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE RECENTLY APPROVED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. WE ARE TAKING OFF ROUGHLY SPEAKING, WE DON'T KNOW THESE NUMBERS YET, ROUGHLY SPEAKING $300 MILLION OFF THE TAX ROLLS WITH THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

CAN WE GET THOSE BONDS ISSUED AND TAX NOTES AND GEO BONDS FOR THOSE PURPOSES AND MAINTAIN AT

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THE IMINO PORTION IS SUBJECT TO SP2 CALCULATIONS WHICH ALLOWS EXISTING REVENUE PLUS THREE NAPROSYN. WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS THE INS PORTION OF THE TAX RATE.

WITH THE GROWTH YOU ARE HAVING YOUR ABLE TO GET ALL OF THESE DONE AND MAINTAIN THE $0.65 EVEN WITH YOU MAKING THE DECISION ON THE IMINO TAX RATE. ALL THESE THINGS WILL BE FURTHER DISCUSSED IN BUDGET. BUT BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF HAVING TO ISSUE PRIOR TO SETTING THE TAX RATE AND HAVING TO GET BOND RATINGS AND BOND INVESTORS TO LOOK AT THIS, WE WANT YOUR PERMISSION TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS KNOWING THAT FINAL DECISIONS HAVE YET TO BE MADE ON FINAL PROJECTS AND WHAT THE FINAL TAX RATE IS. THAT IS BACK TO YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME DURING BUDGET SEASON. THAT'S THE DISCUSSION POINT WE WANTED TO HAVE TODAY. WE DON'T WANT TO COME AND I SAY WEEK INCLUDING STAFF, DON'T WANT TO COME WITH THE GEO BOND AND SAY IT'S APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO APPROVE. WE WANT TO HAVE A TWO-STEP PROCESS TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE

IS MOVING FORWARD THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO BE. >> QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> I HAD A QUESTION. WHAT IS THE REASON WE CAN'T SET THE TAX RATE PRIOR TO GETTING

BONDS ISSUED? IS IT MARKET? >> IT IS NO LAW.

LET'S SAY WE WILL SET THE TAX RATE AT 0.65. THE IMINO IS S 35 AND THE DEBT SERVICE IS $0.30. THE THREE CENTS IS BECAUSE WE ARE ISSUING THESE BONDS.

WHAT IF YOU DON'T ISSUE THOSE BONDS THEN YOU ARE BRINGING IN MORE REVENUE THAN YOUR ALLOWED TO. INS PORTION OF THE TAX RATE CAN ONLY BE SET TO COVER THE DEBT

SERVICE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. >> GOT IT. >> THAT'S WHY THIS PROCESS GET

STARTED AROUND TAX TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> COUNCIL? >> I WANT TO DROP AN ATOM BOMB. WHAT ABOUT THE REVENUE TAX? WHAT IF THAT WAS THROWN AT YOU? WHAT DOES THAT DO TO CALCULATIONS?

>> WE COULD NOT ISSUE IT. >> I'M THROWING THIS OUT THERE. I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE AND THERE'S FOLKS WITHIN OUR CITIZENS INTERESTED IN THIS NO NEW REVENUE TAX.

WE'VE DONE THE 10 PERCENT. I THINK IT'S A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

IF THAT WAS ENTERED INTO WHAT THAT DOES TO YOUR GRANT EQUATIONS.

>> IT WILL COME DOWN TO THE SP2 CALCULATIONS. THE SP2 CALCULATIONS ON A BILL TO WHICH SET THE TAXES AND HOW TO CALCULATE. YOU GET YOUR VALUE A NEW VALUE AND NEW CONSTRUCTION IS VALUED DIFFERENTLY THAN EXISTING. IT WILL BE PUT INTO THE FORMULA. WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY SPEAKING 30 PERCENT GROWTH RATE AND TO GET THE SAME REVENUE YOUR IMINO AND TAX RATE HAS TO GO DOWN.

BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING UP IN VALUE. WE CAN'T GET MORE REVENUE.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. >> TAMMY DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE MOCK.

>> COUNSEL FURTHER QUESTIONS? I WILL TAIN? >> DIRECTION TO PROCEED?

>> COUNSEL? WAITING TO RALLY AROUND A SENSE OF DIRECTION FOR CHRIS TO PROCEED OR NOT I WILL GIVE FEEDBACK THAT IT'S PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND I WOULD

ADVOCATE TO CONTINUE PUSHING FORWARD. >> WE HAVE BUDGETS COMING UP WE WILL BE DISCUSSING A LOT BEFORE WE GET TO THE AUGUST 22 CELL DATE.

THERE'S A LOT IN FLUX RIGHT NOW. SPEAKING OF THE CALCULATION THE CONTROLLER DROPPED A NEW FORM TODAY'S EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT THAT FORM TO SEE WHAT CHANGES THE CALCULATIONS HAD. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT WILL BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 22 FOR THE CELL AND CERTAINLY SEPTEMBER WHEN WE APPROVE THE BUDGET AND TAX

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RATE. >> WHAT IS THE DATE FOR ISSUING THESE BONDS AND WHAT IS THE CUT

OFF DATE THIS YEAR? >> THE TIMETABLE HAS IS THE 22ND.

THE CUTOFF COMES DROPDEAD DATE IS THE DAY YOU SET YOUR TAX RATE.

>> WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SET UP A SALE DATE.

WE HAVE TO TARGET THAT AND PLAN IT BECAUSE WE WANT BIDDERS TO BID SO I LIKE TO HAVE A WEEK OR TWO PRIOR TO THAT SALE DATE. BUT THE DROPDEAD DATE TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR IS THE DAY YOU SET YOUR TAX RATE. WE COULD SELL BEFORE THE AGENDA ITEM ON TAX RATE.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNSEL I'M NOT HEARING ANY DISSENSION AWAY FROM PROCEEDING. WE WILL GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO PROCEED.

THANK YOU FOR NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION. THANK YOU MARK.

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CLYDE? >> THANK YOU. THIS IS A PROPOSED WE HAVE BUILDING COMMISSIONING REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR NEW CITY HALL AND VERIFYING THE HVAC DOES WORK IN THE NEW BUILDINGS. LIGHTING CONTROLS AND HOT WATER SYSTEMS ASSOCIATED DIRECT DIGITAL CONTROLS OF BOTH BUILDINGS. AS THE MAYOR SAID CITY HALL IS $37,250 AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS $70,800. THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE IT IS UNANIMOUS. INTERNATIONAL OR 2018 ENERGY CODE PUBLIC BUILDING WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND HAVE THESE BUILDINGS COMMISSIONED. THIS IS ONCE THE BUILDINGS ARE READY TO GO. HVAC IS INSTALLED AND PAID FOR OUT OF THE 2021 FUNDS ARE NOT PART OF THE GMP. GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE BUT PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE

FACTORED IN. ANY QUESTIONS? >> TAMMY ANYONE SIGN THE SPEAK

ON THIS ISSUE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLYDE? >> ONE QUESTION.

DID THIS GO TO BID? HOW DO WE SELECT THE VENDOR? >> IT IS ENGINEERING SERVICE.

IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO GO TO BID. SOMEBODY WE'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE. ARCHITECTS HAVE WORKED WITH. THAT'S HOW WE CAME ABOUT.

>> AS FAR AS PRICING WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER PRICING. >> NO SIR WHEN IT COMES TO ENGINEERING YOU CAN'T CONSIDER PRICING. TEXAS STATE LAW.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN ED GARDNER.

ITEM PASSES SEVEN ÃZERO. AT 9:00 P.M. WE STAND

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