[Call to Order, Pledges, and Invocation] [00:00:11] >> GOOD EVENING, IT IS 6:00 P.M., TUESDAY, OCTOBER 8TH, COUNCILMEMBER PRESIDENT, I CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. WE BEGIN WITH COUNCILMEMBER RODGERS . LEADING US WITH THE INDICATION AND PLEDGES. >> JOIN ME AS WE PRAY. DEAR LORD, THANKFUL TO COME TO BUT RATHER AS A COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY. THIS TIME WE COME TOGETHER TO LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE AND GROW WITH EACH OTHER THROUGH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OUR CITIZENRY, WHO IS ABLE TO IMPOSE UPON US BELIEFS AND NEEDS AND ABLE TO REACT OFF OF THAT. LORD, WE ASK FIRST RESPONDERS , INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, ALL THOSE INVOLVED IN THE RECENT ACTIVITIES INVOLVED WITH HURRICANE HELENE AND NOW AS WE KNOW, ANOTHER POSSIBLE HURRICANE APPROACHING FLORIDA, HURRICANE MILTON. WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH THOSE FAMILIES OF THOSE RESPONDERS WHICH IS A MAJOR IMPACT ON OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE THANKFUL ONCE AGAIN FOR CITY AND ALL THE BLESSINGS YOU PROVIDE UPON US, AS UPON US WE ALWAYS ACT IN A WAY PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> I CAN SEE WE HAVE SEVERAL STUDENTS THIS EVENING, STUDENTS FROM HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL, LED TO HAVE YOU ALL. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO TAKE A SELFIE BEFORE WE LEAVE SO WE WILL WAIT [2024-381] AND TAKE THE SELFIE AT THE VERY END OF THE MEETING, I'M KIDDING, WE WILL TAKE IT IN A MOMENT. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU ALL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. OPENING ITEM 2024 381, CITY CAMS REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT STAFF MEMBER OR SOMETHING TAKING PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHINE A LIGHT ON. CITY COUNCIL ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST? CLARK. >> I WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY OUT TO HERITAGE DAY ON SATURDAY FROM 11:00 UNTIL 6:00, WHERE WE COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO HONOR THE HERITAGE. THERE IS FREE FOOD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MENU IS THIS YEAR, BURGERS. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO WATCH, I THINK I'M IN A PIE EATING CONTEST AT 1:00. JOIN US DOWNTOWN THIS SATURDAY, ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHERS? SEEING NONE , I WILL GO DOWN THE FLOOR AND GIVE A COUPLE OF MINE. I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE OUR STAFF, CITY STAFF, PARTICULARLY MIKE ADAMS AND ADAM --, THEIR TEAM FOR THE GRAND OPENING OF WALNUT GROVE ROAD, LONG-AWAITED PROJECT WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT . MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, MAJOR ARTERY TO SERVICE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS A LOT OF COMMERCE THAT GOES ON ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TEAM FOR PULLING OFF A GREAT PROJECT AND IT IS A MUCH BETTER DRIVE NOT SO THANKFUL TO MIKE AND ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. GO TRAVEL WALNUT GROVE ROAD, ACTUALLY DON'T UNLESS YOU NEED TO. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IT IS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEEK IS FASTLY APPROACHING SO I WANT TO INVITE OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REPRESENTATIVES TO COME FORWARD, DOUG KOHN , ACCESS TO SELF STORAGE AND SERVES ON THE BOARD FOR THE CHAMBERS . I WILL READ THIS PROCLAMATION INTO RECORD AND PRESENT TO YOU GUYS AND WE WILL TAKE A NICE PHOTO WITH MS. LUNDBERG AND WE WILL TAKE A SELFIE. GET YOUR PHONES READY. WHEREAS MORE THAN 600 LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE IN TEXAS DISTINGUISH THEMSELVES AS THE VOICE OF BUSINESS IN OUR STATE AND WHERE IS THE WORK ACCOMPLISHED BY THOSE LOCAL CHAMBERS HAS BENEFITED OUR STATE THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND WHERE IS THE LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE PROMOTE COMMUNITY FOR QUALITY, GROWTH, AND DEVELOPMENT AND WHERE IS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY REPRESENTED THROUGH THE LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE HAVE BEEN A DRIVING FORCE FOSTERING ENHANCEMENTS, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, AND THE CREATION OF JOBS ON UP POSITIVE VISION OF THE FUTURE AND WHERE [00:05:04] IS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE COMMUNITY IN TEXAS ARE THOUGHT TO ACHIEVE SUCCESSFUL RESULTS FOR OUR STATE IN COOPERATIVE SPIRIT WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. THEREFORE, I, JUSTIN COFFMAN, MAHER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL PROCLAIMED THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 14TH THROUGH 18TH, 2024 AS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEEK IN MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. I ENCOURAGE ALL OF THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE YOUR CHAMBER, A TON OF RESOURCES, SMALL BUSINESSES AND LARGE BUSINESSES ALIKE THAT UTILIZE THEIR SERVICES, FANTASTIC DIRECTORS THERE WHEN YOU NEED SOMETHING, REACH OUT TO THE CHAMBER, THEY CAN CONNECT YOU WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESSMAN OR WOMAN TO GET YOU CONNECTED. STUDENTS,,, LET'S TAKE SELFIES SO YOU CAN GET THOSE OUT OF THE WAY. COUNCIL, DO Y'ALL WANT TO PHOTOBOMBED THESE ? MAYBE WE CAN TAKE ONE OR TWO AND YOU CAN SHARE AMONGST YOURSELVES. COME AROUND THIS WHOLE SET UP. >> I TELL YOU WHAT, I WILL TAKE IT AND SHARE IT WITH ONE OF YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. >> YAY ! [2024-382] >> I SHARED IT WITH MRS. LUNDBERG AND SHE WILL SHARE IT WITH YOU GUYS. LET'S GET TO BUSINESS. CITIZENS TO BE HARD, ITEM NUMBER 382, THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION FOR AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE ITEM BEING OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS, ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ? >> >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON . >> TESTING. MY NAME IS SUSIE AND I LIVE WITHIN THE CITY MINUTES . I HAVE WITH ME RACHEL, I WILL SAY HER NAME WRONG, LET HER SAY IT. AND WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF BACK PORCH THEATER. IS THERE SOMEPLACE TO SEE THE TIME ? THANK YOU. WE STARTED COMMUNITY THEATER IN MIDLOTHIAN, WHICH I THINK MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE, IT IS CALLED THE BACK PORCH THEATER. WE HAD BEEN IN EXISTENCE ABOUT TWO YEARS, WE ARE 501(C) SO WE ARE NONPROFIT. WE SAW THAT EVERYONE WAS GOING OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS , ADULTS AND CHILDREN, TO BE IN COMMUNITY THEATER AND DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO DO OUR OWN. WE GOT THE BOARD GOING, THE NONPROFIT STATUS AND HAVE BEEN OPERATING TWO YEARS, WE DO CHILDREN'S CAMPS IN THE SUMMER, STARTED OUT USING THE OLD GYM, NOT QUITE BIG ENOUGH. DID NOT ADAPT WELL TO SOUND AND LIGHT SO WE HAVE BEEN USING MIDLOTHIAN CIVIC CENTER SINCE THEN. THIS YEAR, WE HAD WHAT WE CONSIDER A FULL SEASON. WE STARTED OUT WITH A VARIETY NIGHT AT THE COFFEEHOUSE IN APRIL. IN JULY, WE HAD A CHILDREN'S CAMP, IN AUGUST, WE DID THE SOUND OF MUSIC, I HAD MARIA WITH ME. WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING, TO WHICH WE INVITE EVERYONE WHO IS HERE, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AS WELL AS THE AUDIENCE, TO COME SEE OUR VINTAGE HITCHCOCK'S RADIO PLAYS APPROVED -- PERFORMED AT THE CIVIC CENTER OCTOBER 24TH AND 26, IT IS A GREAT DATE NIGHT, EW, GREAT NIGHT TO GO SEE THEATER AND IT STARTS AT 7:30. OUR PROBLEM IS CAN THE REASON WE CAME TO YOU, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US WITH THIS, WE KIND OF NEED A HOME. WE HAVE ASKED AND LOOKED FOR A HOME, THE SCHOOL DOES NOT WORK VERY WELL BECAUSE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS OF WHEN IT IS CLOSED . THE CIVIC CENTER WORKS BUT WE THINK IT WILL GET TWO SMALL . PLUS, THERE IS NO SOUND SYSTEM, NO LIGHT SYSTEM, NO STAGE SO IT IS A LITTLE HARD [00:10:02] FOR THE AUDIENCE TO SEE, ALTHOUGH WE DID HAVE A SELLOUT AUDIENCE FOR THE SOUND OF MUSIC AND HAD OVER 100 PEOPLE THERE. WE NEED STORAGE SPACE AND REHEARSAL STAGE. THE PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS BEEN WONDERFUL, WE USED IT FOR REHEARSAL SINCE WE STARTED. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO CLOSE DOWN TO MOVE INTO THE NEW LIBRARY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION WILL BE. WE HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT IF WE NEED TO. HOWEVER, I'M NOT SURE I WILL LET RACHEL FINISH UP, LOOKING FOR HOME, I WANT HER TO SAY THIS. >> HI, I HAD THE PLEASURE TO NOT ONLY ACT WITH THIS COMPANY BUT ALSO WITH LOXAHATCHEE COMMUNITY THEATER, I'M A RESIDENT OF MIDLOTHIAN AND IT STINKS TO DRIVE TO WAXAHACHIE TO PERFORM, MY DAUGHTER GOT TO PLAY GRETEL IN THE SOUND OF MUSIC AND WE WOULD LOVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BECAUSE BACK PORCH IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT IS FUN AND WE HAVE GOOD PERFORMERS, ALSO BECAUSE IT IS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY FILLED WITH LOVE AND EVERYTHING THEATER IS SUPPOSED TO BE. >> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. >> >> ANYBODY ASSIGNED TO SPEAK? MR. LINTNER , PLEASE COME UP. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE KNOW THAT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. >> I HOPE IT GIVES YOU BETTER SOUND. MY NAME IS WAYNE --, I LIVE IN LAWSON FORMS, I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE '09. I KNOW SOME OF YOU , EVERYONE I KNOW , I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE MIDLOTHIAN AS MUCH AS I DO. TWO WEEKS AGO, I WAS HERE ASKING YOU GUYS QUESTIONS THAT IS ON THIS PAPER HERE. I DID NOT ASK FOR ANY COMMENTS , THINK ABOUT IT FOR TWO WEEKS . BRINGING IT BACK UP TO YOU, THESE FORMS. BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT TO YOU GUYS, I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS AT SOME POINT OR YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE , THE SAME DIRECTION . WE STILL HAVE MIDLOTHIAN IN MIND. I WILL READ THESE OUT LOUD SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE EXCESSIVE GROWTH IN MIDLOTHIAN. I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE EXCESSIVE DEVELOPERS, EXCESSIVE HOUSING DIVISIONS, EXCESSIVE PEOPLE, EXCESSIVE CARS, EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC, EXCESSIVE EMERGENCY TRAFFIC, I HEAR EMERGENCY SIRENS ALL DAY LONG THAT I NEVER USED TO HEAR WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE. WE HAVE EXCESS OF BUSINESSES AND EXCESSIVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. MY POINT IS, THERE IS ALMOST NO MIDLOTHIAN CHARM LEFT FROM THE FOUNDERS BECAUSE PEOPLE IN CHARGE DO NOT CARE, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU NECESSARILY, BUT SOME PEOPLE PRIOR TO YOU GUYS . SOON, MIDLOTHIAN WILL BE ANOTHER STATISTIC. WE DO NOT NEED STATISTICS, WE NEED TAXES CHARACTER, CHARM, DISTINCTION FOR MIDLOTHIAN. WHILE THERE STILL TIME, MIDLOTHIAN SHOULD CREATE APPEAL WITH THE LORD AND RETRACTION WITH DISTINCTION , NOT STATISTICS. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, YOU COULD CREATE A BEAUTIFUL , WONDERFUL LITTLE THEME PARK DOWN THERE , YOU COULD'VE DONE IT WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING LOWE'S , BUT YOU CAN GO ACROSS THE STREET . PEOPLE CAN COME HERE, I DON'T MEAN DISNEYLAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN TO SEE HISTORICAL GOINGS-ON , HOW MIDLOTHIAN WAS DEVELOPED. WE COULD HAVE TRAILS, HORSE RIDES , ALL SORTS OF LITTLE ACTIVITIES FOR PEOPLE TO COME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. THAT SHOULD BRING YOU, I HAVE TO BELIEVE THERE WILL BE 100,000 PEOPLE YOU TO COME VISIT YOU GUYS IF YOU CREATED THIS ESTABLISHMENT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW MIDLOTHIAN IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER TINY LITTLE TOWNS , PEOPLE OUT HERE, HOW TO AND TAXES OUT HERE, IT IS MORE THAN TAXES AND BUSINESSES, IT IS THE PEOPLE, THE CHARM OF MIDLOTHIAN. I WISH YOU GUYS WOULD THINK ABOUT IT. MAYBE YOU WILL CHANGE YOUR DIRECTION WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN GOING AND SAVE MIDLOTHIAN . >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. ANY OTHERS? NO OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY , WE WILL MOVE [CONSENT AGENDA] [00:15:06] ON TO CONSENT AGENDA. ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ARE TO BE CONSIDERED BY, CONSIDERED TO BE RETAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION WITHOUT SEPARATE DISCUSSION. HOWEVER, IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THE ITEM CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. COUNCIL, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO REMOVE CONSENT ITEMS FROM THE CONSTANT AGENDA? >> I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE 2024-384 . >> WE WILL MOVE 384. ANY OTHERS FOR DISCUSSION? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS 384 . >> APPROVED . >> I WILL TAKE ONE FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMON. PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES, 7-0 SO WE WILL [2024-384] OPEN ITEM 2024-383, CONSIDER ACT UPON RESOLUTION WITH THE GRANT OF $25,659 TO BE AWARDED BY THE MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN FOR COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE MERRY AND BRIGHT SHOP LOCAL PROGRAM. MELISSA . >> AND CDC DID HEAR GRANT FROM LORI LUMBER TO CREATE MARKETING CAMPAIGN AT OUR RECENT MEETING AND WE DID APPROVE THAT EXPENDITURE, IT DOES EXCEED THE $20,000 SO WE ARE COMING TO YOU GUYS FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE FUNDS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROGRAM. >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT IT, THIS IS A WAY, I MAY BE TOUCHING IT SO YOU CAN CLARIFY IT, IT IS A WAY FOR OUR CITY AND MCDC TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS AND SPECIFICALLY RETAILERS THROUGHOUT THE HOLIDAY SEASON. COULD YOU JUST TALK ABOUT, BRIEFLY, WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? SING IT ON THE AGENDA, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE. >> I THINK IF IT IS OKAY, IF I DIFFER TO LORI ABOUT THE PROGRAM ITSELF, I THINK SHE CAN SPEAK TO IT BETTER. ONE THING WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IS THE ABILITY TO REUSE THE HARDWARE EVERY YEAR AND OFFER GRANTS TO SMALL BUSINESS SO THEY CAN USE IT. I WILL LET LORI TALK ABOUT >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, THREE COMPONENTS. ONE IS TO DISPLAY BANNERS THROUGHOUT OUR DOWNTOWN AREA , THE FLAG ON THE LIGHT POST THAT WILL SHOW THAT SAME -- DAY OF THE EVENT, MERRY AND BRIGHT, SHOP LOCAL, GIVES EVERYONE A HEADS UP WE ARE DOING IT AND PLANNING A SHOP LOCAL DAY ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, EARLY ENOUGH IN THE SHOPPING SEASON PEOPLE HAVE NOT SPENT ALL OF THEIR BUDGET. WE WILL INVOLVE THE LOCAL RETAILERS, ALL AROUND THE CITY, NOT JUST DOWNTOWN, PARTICULARLY THE SHOPS AND BOUTIQUES TO OPEN UP SHOPS THAT NIGHT FOR SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD, 5:00 UNTIL 8:30. PROMOTE IT, ADVERTISE IT, TO GET SHOPPERS IN, PROBABLY HAVE SPECIAL PROMOTIONS THAT DAY, PERHAPS A REFRESHMENT OR TWO , TO GET PEOPLE TO THE LOCATIONS, WE WILL HAVE TROLLEY SERVICE THAT WILL STOP AT EACH LOCATION ON THE ROUTE DURING THAT FOUR HOUR COAT . THAT GET PEOPLE PLACE TO PLACE SO THAT ALL THE SHOPS ARE INVOLVED AND IT IS NOT JUST ONE LOCATION THAT IS GETTING THE LOVE, IF YOU WILL. ANY QUESTIONS? >> JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE THE MAYOR DRESS-UP -- >> HE ASKED TO DRESS UP AS BUDDY THE ELF. WE ARE LOOKING FOR BIG ENOUGH COSTUME. >> I FULLY SUPPORT IT. >> TALL ENOUGH. I THINK IT SOUNDS GREAT . IT IS WONDERFUL. >> ROUGH CROWD . >> I THINK IT SOUNDS GREAT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE IDEA CAME FROM YOU OR COLLECTIVE BUT I THINK IT IS AWESOME, GREAT INITIATIVE. I WANTED TO HEAR MORE DETAILS BUT SUPER EXCITED YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, ALWAYS A TEAM EFFORT. >> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> MOTION TO APPROVE . >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORMAN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HAMMONDS. IT PASSES . THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS [2024-396] EVENING, WE WILL OPEN ITEM 2024-396, THAT IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACT UPON ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF 23.53 ACRES OF THE BENJAMIN MONROE SURVEY . PROPERTY GENERALLY [00:20:05] LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY AND WEST MAIN STREET. MARY, IS THIS YOU ? ALL RIGHT. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, THIS IS A REQUEST FROM AGRICULTURAL AID TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. THE DESIGN IS 100% ALLEY ENTRY GARAGE IS WITH REAR SETBACK. 98 DWELLING UNITS ON 25.53 ACRES WHICH TRANSLATES TO SIX DRILLING UNITS PER ACRE OR FIVE DWELLING UNITS WITH A FORT PLAIN , THERE IS SIX FOOT MINIMUM BUILDING SEPARATION BETWEEN THE LOCKS AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 1800 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM FLOOR AREA . THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SHOWS THE AREA AS NEW TOWN MODULE, WHICH IS A MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, COMMUNITY , COMMERCIAL FACILITIES THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FRIENDLY. IT DOES NOT FIT WITHIN SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT AND IT FALLS BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES, URBAN DENSITY MODULE, WHICH IS 7500 SQUARE FEET AND URBAN MEDIAN DENSITY WHICH IS REALLY MEANT FOR MULTI FAMILY. >> THE ADJACENT LAND USES TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE VACANT LAND AND YOU HAVE SOUTHERN PACIFIC RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AND ALSO PART OF NEW TOWN MODULE . ACROSS THE RAILROAD, YOU HAVE SUBURBAN LOW DENSITY, INDUSTRIAL MODULE . TO THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE COMMUNITY RETAIL , WE HAVE A LOT OF RETAIL AND RESTAURANT TYPE OF USES THERE. IT IS ALSO NEW TOWN MODULE , TO THE EAST ACROSS MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY, IT IS ALSO DEVELOPED LAND FOR NEW TOWN MODULE AND TO THE WEST, IT IS PD- 123, WHICH IS FOR RETAIL AND TWO PROPOSED HOTELS. THAT AREA IS ALSO NEW TOWN MODULE . THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY PROVIDED SHOWS MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY AS EXISTING MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. , EAST RIDGE DRIVE IS TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR. THEY ARE SHOWING TWO ACCESS POINTS ON MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY, ONE THAT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING MEDIAN AND OUT TO EAST-WEST DRIVE, THEY ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT THAT CONNECTS TO THE SOUTH. THE ELEVATIONS ARE STILL IN DESIGN, THEY ARE PROVIDING 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND SCREENING WALLS ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALONG THE ADJACENT PROPERTY . THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS DON'T REALLY FIT WITHIN A SPECIFIC ZONING CATEGORY, 3000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. WHICH TRANSLATES INTO 30 FOOT WIDE AT THE FRONT , THEY HAVE 10 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK , AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO ZERO SIDE YARD AND ALSO HAVE FIVE FOOT ALLOWANCE ON A CORNER LOT SO AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IT IS 20 FEET. MOSTLY TWO-STORY BUT NOT GREATER THAN 35 FEET . THEY PROVIDED SOME ELEVATIONS AS CONCEPTUAL PHOTOS, I WILL NOT SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THEM, FROM OTHER PROJECTS IN THE METROPLEX, THE APPLICANT HAS THEIR OWN PRESENTATION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT. NOTIFICATIONS WERE PROVIDED TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AS REQUIRED BY LAW, TOTAL OF NINE NOTICES MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. TO DATE , WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, AT THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING, THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED NOT DENIAL BY VOTE 5-0. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL BASED ON THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THEY WILL COMPLETE T.I.A. IF YOU GUYS GIVE THEM FEEDBACK [00:25:08] YOU'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT . THEY HAVE PUT IN WRITING THEY WILL DEDICATE PARKLAND, THEY HAVE AGREED TO PUT THE AC CONDENSERS AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY TO FREE UP THE SIDE YARD. DEPENDING ON COUNCIL , THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO BRINGING BACK THE WHOLE SITE WITH NEXT USE, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT , I HAVE TO GO BACK , LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL ON THIS CORNER LOT HERE . THEY ALSO WOULD BE WILLING TO BRING BACK COMPLETED ELEVATIONS, DEPENDING ON THE COUNCIL AND PUT TODAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ? >> THANK YOU, MARY. I'M SURE THERE WILL BE, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE? >> >> MR. JONES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. IF YOU ARE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP OR THE APPLICANT, YOU CAN HOLD OFF. IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OR LOCAL RESIDENT? WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU IN A MOMENT, ANY OTHERS? UNDERSTAND MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING . >> SECOND. >> MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING BY MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCILMEMBER WEAVER. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, 7-0. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, IS ONE AS THE ONE THAT REPRESENTS THE LANDOWNER. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS PRESTON PITTMAN, REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS SITE. FULLY LIVING AND OPERATING COMPANY, BUILDING AND DESIGNING ASSETS THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO. WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED THE PROJECT, WE PROPOSED PROJECT SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE WITH MIDLOTHIAN OFFICE 287. THE GENERAL FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM STAFF WAS THAT CAP WITHIN THE CITY AND MULTI FAMILY WOULD NOT GET APPROVED. TAKING THE FEEDBACK, THE UNDERSTANDING THERE IS A NEED FOR QUALITY HOUSING, WE WENT AND PROPOSE DOING THE 24 FOOT ON 30 FOOT LOT . WE PRESENTED THAT IDEA , THERE WAS A BUNCH OF CONVERSATIONS AT PNC WHETHER OR NOT TO KEEP IT OPEN, THE LIGHT, AMENITIES, AS NOTED, EAST RIDGE ROAD IS PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY, TRYING TO PLAN SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED YET HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE, I HAD CONVERSATIONS, AT MINIMUM, COUNCILMAN WEAVER ABOUT THE PRACTICALITY OF EAST RIDGE ROAD BASED ON THE FACT , BASED ON THE FLOODWAY AND IT BEING ADJACENT TO THE TRAIN TRACKS. WE ENJOY , WE LIKE MIDLOTHIAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. I'M WALKING RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FROM STAFF AND P AND Z, ULTIMATELY WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK BASED ON THE MODULE, BASED ON PROXIMITY TO THIS BEING HOTEL AND RETAIL, KNOWING THAT 23 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL PROBABLY DOES NOT MAKE SENSE SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME LEVEL OF INCORPORATION OF A RESIDENTIAL PIECE. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE SIZE AND RESTRAINTS SUCH AS THE FLOODWAY, EAST RIDGE ROAD, IT WOULD MAKE DOING FOR SALE COMMUNITY REALLY IMPRACTICAL. WHETHER IT IS THE 24 FOOT PRODUCT OR GOING BACK TO TOWNHOMES OR DOING THE SINGLE PLOTTED COTTAGE STYLE COMMUNITY , LESS THAN THE PROJECT AND MAY BE NEGOTIATING THROUGH POSSIBLY CARVING OUT COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE OFF OF MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY, DISCUSSED DEDICATED PARKWAY AS WELL, WHAT TRULY WOULD THE CITY BE OPEN TO SING AT THIS LOCATION? WHAT WE ARE TIME TO FIGURE OUT TODAY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DOLMEN REPRESENTING THE LANDOWNER AND THEN WILL HAVE QUESTIONS SO STAY CLOSE. >> MY NAME IS CLINT JONES, I REPRESENT BOB AND LORI DORSETT, THERE THE LANDOWNERS. THIS 23.5 ACRES, THEY CONTACTED ME, I'M NOT FROM HERE , I LIVE IN CENTRAL TEXAS. I'M A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER, I HAVE KNOWN THE DORSETT S FOR YEARS. THEY CONTACTED ME BECAUSE THEY WANTED MY ASSISTANCE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THIS PROPERTY. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM A LITTLE OVER [00:30:03] A YEAR AND A HALF TRYING TO FIND BUYERS FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD PUT IT TO APPROPRIATE USE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THE CITY WOULD ALLOW ON THIS PROPERTY. WE HAD INITIALLY UNDER CONTRACT THREE TIMES, PRESTON AND THEM THE FIRST ONE THAT HAVE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO BRING IT ALL THE WAY TO COUNCIL TO TRY TO ASCERTAIN WHAT CAN BE DONE. THE FIRST DEVELOPER HAD IT UNDER CONTRACT FOR FOLKS WHO ATTACH TOWNHOMES, SIMILAR TO THINGS WE HAVE SEEN AT LOXAHATCHEE . ULTIMATELY, DURING THE DISCUSSION, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HE BECAME CONCERNED THAT THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO DROP THE CONTRACT. ANOTHER GROUP WOULD DO DETACHED, BUILD THE RENT TYPE OF PRODUCT AND THEY GOT FLUSTERED, WE WILL NOT GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT. PART OF THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN OUTSIDE OF TALKING TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS AND TRYING TO GET A READ, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE. YOU HAVE TO SPEND 60 TO 100 GRAND TO DO TIAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE, IS IT WORTH IT TO GO AFTER THIS PROPERTY OR AM I NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE WITH THIS? THERE ARE TWO THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO DECIDE ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNERS TONIGHT, ONE IS, IS IT GOING TO BE MIXED USE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL? I DON'T THINK, AS PRESTON MENTIONED FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD DO FOR SALE PRODUCT THAT CLOSED IN AND EVERYTHING, I DON'T KNOW , MAYBE YOU COULD. A LOT OF BUILDERS I WORK WITH WOULD PROBABLY NOT GO FOR THAT, PER SE. IS IT A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, AS PRESTON WAS MENTIONING? THAT IS POSSIBLE. I CONTACTED, I HAVE FRIENDS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP IN AUSTIN, THERE IS THE DOMAIN DOWN THERE, YOU HAVE SEEN WHERE THEY HAVE GROUNDS FOR, RETAIL, APARTMENTS UP ABOVE THEM. THEY LOOKED AT THE SITE , WE DON'T THINK IT WORKS HERE. WE HAVE HIT THIS WALL WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURING THIS OUT, THESE GUYS ARE TENACIOUS TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, THEY VISITED WITH SEVERAL OF YOU. WE ARE TRYING TO FIRST, FIGURE OUT WHAT IS ALLOWED. MARY SHOWED ME THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN I GOT HERE, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. IT HAS TWO RESIDENTIAL USES, ONE IS HIGH DENSITY ATTACHED. SINGLE-FAMILY. ATTACHED AND DETACHED. WITH THE PRODUCT THAT THEY ARE OFFERING MATCH THAT? THAT IS ONE QUESTION. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. THE SECOND THING IS, WITH THE ROAD THAT STAFF HAS TOLD US, A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED WHETHER OR NOT THIS ROAD WILL CUT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY ARE NOT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA IF IT IS, WHERE IT WILL CUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY . WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY THE CITY ENGINEER A COUPLE DRAWINGS AND EVERYTHING, THAT IS THE OTHER QUESTION, IS THE ROAD GOING TO BE THERE? IF SO, WE HAVE TO PLAN AROUND IT, IT LEAVES FOUR ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT COULD BE COMMERCIAL TOO SO WE ARE TRYING TO FIND THAT OUT. THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FOR THE LANDOWNERS, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? >> PRESTON. >> SORRY, FIRST OF ALL, WE APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND APPROACH. JUST FOR MY OWN CLARITY, I WILL GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED. THE FRONT YARD SETBACK IS 10 FOOT . >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WHAT IS THE OVERALL LOT COUNT? >> 90 LOTS . >> HOW MANY ACRES? >> 16 1/2 BASED ON WHERE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY GOES. ROUGHLY FOUR ACRES TO THE NORTH. >> OKAY. Y'ALL ASKED FOR FEEDBACK, THIS IS A GROUP THAT WILL GIVE YOU FEEDBACK. COUNCIL , QUESTIONS. >> MINE WAS MORE OF A PROCESS QUESTION, I'VE NEVER SEEN AN AGENDA ITEM GO LIKE THIS TO WHERE INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THE EXACTING IN FRONT OF US, IT CHANGES TO A CONVERSATION ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE. I DON'T KNOW HAD A WORKSHOP, HOW DOES THIS -- >> JOE ? >> ESSENTIALLY HAVE A ZONING CASE BEFORE YOU, COME BEFORE YOU KNOW IT PROBABLY NOT A CHANCE IT WILL BE ABLE TO PASS TONIGHT. BEST GUESS ESTIMATES, LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK. >> ON THIS SPECIFIC ONE ? >> WE ALLOWED TO GIVE FEEDBACK? ON WHAT IS NOTED . >> WHAT'S DISCUSS WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED IN FRONT OF US AND THE FUTURE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. >> MY QUESTION IS ONE FOR STAFF, ASKING QUESTIONS AGO -- >> I MET IN A LOT OF BACK-AND-FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE DEVELOPERS, EITHER WAY . >> AHEAD AND ASK, MARY, SOMEBODY. MINE IS MORE ON THE CONSIDERATION, A RECOMMENDATION FOR PARKLAND OR RAIL IMPROVEMENTS TO BE ISSUED. DOES THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WE ARE [00:35:01] TO PROVE NOT APPLY HERE? >> IT DOES. >> WHAT ARE THEY DEDICATING? ARE THEY PAYING THE FEE IN LIEU OF ? >> NO, THEY ARE VERY HAPPY TO DEDICATE THE PARKLAND . >> IS AT THE FOUR ACRES ACROSS THE STREET? I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE WHICH IS WHY AM CONFUSED. >> THEY REACHED OUT TO HEATHER AND HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT FAR IN THE PROCESS YET. >> AS FAR AS THIS PRODUCT RIGHT NOW, I WILL GIVE YOU OPINIONS LATER ON THAT, AS FAR AS THIS PARK RIGHT NOW, WOULDN'T WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE THAT IS ON THEIR SITE PLAN? >> I WILL ADDRESS IT. BEFORE THE ROAD BECAME A DISSECTING ROAD, THE WHOLE IDEA WAS EVERYTHING FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS, THERE IS A FLOODPLAIN AREA, OTHER AREAS THAT CAN'T BE USED, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, THE IDEA WAS TO DEDICATE THAT AREA TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND MAKE IT INTO A CITY PARK. THAT IS THE DISCUSSION THE DORSETTS HAD WITH THE CITY . >> THE REMAINING FOUR. >> IT IS LIKE SIX OR SEVEN ACRES . THERE'S A LITTLE PIECE OF IT , IF THAT ROAD IS CUT THROUGH THERE. >> THE ROAD DOES CUT THROUGH DOWN THE FLOODPLAIN , IT COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, IT DEPENDS , TWO ACRES OR FOUR ACRES. ALL OF THIS BACK HERE WOULD BE PARKLAND DEDICATED. >> I WON'T STALL THE CONVERSATION, TECHNICALLY, IN THEORY, WHEN IT TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT ANYWAYS, WE COULDN'T BECAUSE THE PARKLAND IS NOT CITED ON THE PLAN. >> RIGHT. I WOULD THINK IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING , YOU COULD CONTINUE IT, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION. THEY DID PUT IN WRITING THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DEDICATE PARKLAND . >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL, I ENCOURAGE FEEDBACK ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT LET'S KEEP IT SHORT, WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS TO GET TO TONIGHT IF WE NEED TO CALL A WORKSHOP FOR THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE CAN, IF WE CAN'T GET ANYWHERE TONIGHT. ROSS IS HERE, GO AHEAD. >> WE WILL GIVE FEEDBACK ON THIS, I WILL BE BRIEF. A FEW KEY POINTS FOR ME IS, WE ARE REALLY PUSHING HARD ON MAJOR COLLECTORS AND BROKERS TO NOT HAVE BACK SET OF HOUSES FACING IT. THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE STREET WITH THE ALLEY ACCESS, HOWEVER YOU WOULD FUNCTION NOT, I THINK IF WE ARE LOOKING AT MIXED USE OR EVEN A PROJECT THAT INCORPORATES IN URBAN ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS WHAT THIS DESCRIBES YOU WILL GENERALLY SEE THE FACADE OF THE RESIDENCE FACING THE THOROUGHFARE WITH ACCESS TO THE BACK. ALTERNATIVE, ALSO, 20 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK DOES NOT ALLOW ENOUGH OUTSIDE OF THE ALLEY RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR FULL-SIZE TRUCKS, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF OUT HERE, SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, IN MY OPINION, 23 OR 25 FEET, TO ALLOW WHAT I CALL F-250 COALITION IN MIDLOTHIAN, DO NOT BLOCK DRIVEWAYS AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC BACK IN THAT BACK ALLEY AREA . WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT IN OTHER ALLEY ROADS IN MIDLOTHIAN WHERE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TO PARK CATTY CORNER OR THE STREET IN FRONT, IT CREATES PROBLEMS. A LITTLE BIT LONGER DRIVEWAYS BETTER, EVEN IF IT IS A GARAGE DOOR SETBACK VERSUS REAR HOME SETBACK. LET'S SEE, IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS, YOU WILL HAVE VISITORS THAT COME TO VISIT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE SO YOU HAVE RESIDENTS WORKING IN THE ALLEY WAY ON THE DRIVEWAY. INTERIOR STREETS NEED TO HAVE PARKING OUTS TO PARALLEL ANGLE PARKING, THAT WAY THERE IS A PLACE FOR SOMEBODY, YOU WILL LOSE DENSITY WHEN YOU DO THESE THINGS, I GET THAT . YOU'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY . WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT ADDS VALUE TO THE EXISTING MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY, CREATE FURTHER TRAFFIC CONGESTION FROM PARKS -- CARS PARKED IN THE STREET, MAKES IT HARDER FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET THROUGH . YOU CAN LOOK AT THE GEORGE HARPER PROFILE IN FRONT OF THE MIDTOWN COMMITTEE, THERE ARE KICK OUTS FOR ON STREET PARKING, THERE ARE TREES, CREATES A NICE TREE SCAPE. >> COUNCILMAN, FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IF WE COULD DO A SINGLE PLOTTED COMMUNITY. WHAT A SINGLE PLAT BE RECEPTIVE KNOWING IT GIVES US A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY ADDING MORE PARKING, EVEN A MINUTE TASING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST BECAUSE [00:40:03] THE STANDARDS FOR WHAT THE STREETS OUGHT TO BE OR NEED TO BE FLUCTUATES AND GIVES US A LOT MORE WIGGLE ROOM TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT FLOWS AND LIVES LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ? >> I GET THE CONCEPT OF WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, THAT PREVENTS ANY FUTURE POTENTIAL OWNERSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT IS A SINGLE PLAT, IT WILL ALWAYS BE, ATTACHED TOWNHOME PRODUCT OR DETACHED TOWNHOME , ESSENTIALLY NOT HERE, THE POTENTIAL AT SOME POINT THE FUTURE OF THOSE COULD BE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED , THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK ALLOWS FOR OWNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THE DOWNSTREAM THAT IS MUCH MORE PLAIN TO MEET AS A COUNCILMEMBER. >> RELATIVE TO WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED, KNOWING WITH THE HOTEL IN THE BACK, THE RETAIL TO THE SOUTH THROUGHOUT THE MAIN, DO YOU THINK THAT MAKES A GOOD FOR-SALE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ? I GUESS, FOR US, GUNG ON THIS SITE IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT PROVIDES FOR A GREAT PLACE FOR MORE OF A TRANSIENT RESIDENT , SOMEONE WHO IS -- >> WE DON'T WANT MORE TRANSIENT RESIDENTS, I THINK WE WANT MORE RESIDENTS. >> I HATE TO CUT YOU OFF . THIS DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH , WE HAVE A ZONING CASE BEFORE US, BETTER DIALOGUE TO WORKSHOP THAN TRYING TO HAMMER OUT TONIGHT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, THERE IS NO -- >> THIS IS ONE MAN'S OPINION. APOLOGIES . >> BACKTRACK ON THE PROPERTY AND DISCUSS THE ZONING CASE IN FRONT OF US . IN THE HYPOTHETICAL THIS CASE DOES NOT PASS, WE WILL SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP AND HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE . >> PERFECT, I APPRECIATE THAT, ABSOLUTELY . >> COUNCIL, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC CASE IN FRONT OF US ? >> A QUESTION I HAD, I'M ASSUMING THIS PROPERTY ON THE WALGREENS PROPERTY, I'M TRYING TO ASK THE QUESTION, MAYBE LEARN SOMETHING, THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE INTERCONNECT ABILITY WITH THE WALGREENS PROPERTY ? >> RIGHT HERE. >> THERE'S MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT. >> IT DOES CUT INTO THE PARKING LOT. >> OKAY, OKAY, I GOT YOU. I MISSED IT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD FOLLOW ALONG TO ADD TO WHAT ROSS SAID, QUICKLY, I WOULD FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT ROSS MENTIONED, IN AGREEMENT, LOOKING FOR VEST, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE RETAIL ON THE FRONTAGE. I THINK WE ARE IN A REAL PROBLEM HERE FOR ELDERLY LIVING . AGE RESTRICTED LIVING, I WOULD GO SO FAR TO SAY, I THINK THIS LOT SIZE FITS THE AGE RESTRICTED, GARDEN HOME TYPE LIVING. I WOULD RATHER SEE ON THE ROAD FRONTAGE THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE THAN HOUSES STACKED, EVEN FACE AND THE ROAD, I WOULD RATHER SEE RETAIL COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT AND AGE RESTRICTED , WE COULD SAVE THAT FOR THE WORKSHOP. >> FOR ME, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH IT , CONCEPTUALLY AS FAR AS THE MODEL THAT YOU GOT HERE. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF QUESTION MARKS TO WHICH COUNCILMAN WEAVER BROUGHT UP WITH Y'ALL 'S DIALOGUE. IN OUR COMMUNITY, ON THE FLIPSIDE TO WHAT MIKE HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG FOLKS TONIGHT IN THE MEETING, I HAVE FOUR KIDS. THE DIRECTION WE ARE HEADED AND THE WAY WE ARE DEVELOPING OUT, THE LIKELIHOOD OR POSSIBILITY THAT MY CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO GO OFF TO COLLEGE OR TRADE SCHOOL OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND COME BACK AND MAKE MIDLOTHIAN THEIR HOME AS A YOUNG ADULT, IT SEEMS TO BE THERE WILL BE A PRETTY BIG CHALLENGE THERE. I BELIEVE, AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE MORE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, WHERE I DON'T THINK APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE THE ANSWER TO THAT. I THINK IF WE CAN COME UP WITH CREATIVE QUALITY PRODUCTS LIKE WHAT I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE GOING FOR HERE, I THINK THAT VERY WELL COULD BE A SOLUTION TO ALLOWING FOR MORE POSSIBILITY THAT HER CHILDREN AND CHILDREN'S CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE AS YOUNG ADULTS. I'M ON THE FLIPSIDE OF THE SENIOR [00:45:01] CONCERNED THAT COUNCILMAN RODGERS MENTIONED. CONCEPTUALLY , NOT OPPOSED TO IT, I THINK WE HAVE TO GET INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE. I DO NOT OPPOSE YOUR IDEA AS A WHOLE HERE. >> MAYOR COFFMAN, WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO SET UP A WORKSHOP? >> THE STUFF WILL COORDINATE WITH YOU. >> PERFECT . >> I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE ATTORNEY IS, SHOULD WE WITHDRAW THE CASE? OR SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE ACTION ON IT? TAKING ACTION, DOES THAT DELAY THEIR ABILITY TO COME BACK? >> ASKED FOR, DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND SET UP A WORKSHOP. >> LET ME MAKE SURE THERE IS NO FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN WEAVER TO DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SHUFFIELD . >> REMOVES THE DENIED. FUTURE CONVERSATION, OUR PLANNING TEAM WILL GET WITH YOU TO COORDINATE A MEETING. THANK YOU. OKAY. OPENING ITEM [2024-397] 2024-397, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE WRITING TO THE USE AND ALLOTMENT OF PLUS OR -81.446 ACRES OF THE A . NEWTON SURVEY ABSTRACT 802 BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURE TO PLAN DEVELOPING DISTRICT NUMBER 173 WITH RESIDENTIAL ZONING. IT IS LOCATED ON TOWER ROAD. >> THIS REQUEST IS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY SUBDIVISION, 231 WATTS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FM 663 AND TOWER ROAD. IT IS ADJACENT TO EXISTING THOMAS TRAIL, SOMETIMES REFERRED TO THIS NEW PROPOSAL AS THOMAS TRAIL 2.0. THE HIGHLIGHT ON THE AMENITIES WOULD BE THEY ARE GOING TO PROPOSE, IT IS A REQUIREMENT WITH THE ORDINANCE, 12,000 SQUARE-FOOT PLAYGROUND THAT WOULD BE ON HOA PROPERTY , NOT PUBLIC PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE ON THE HOA. AS PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIRES, WITH 231 WATTS AND PARKLAND RATIO, THAT WOULD BE 9 1/4 ACRES, DEDICATING ABOUT EIGHT WITH THE BALANCE OF 1 1/4 BEING IN LIEU. THE SURROUNDING AREA, WE ALSO HAVE ROSEBUD TO THE SOUTH , WHICH I DID MENTION , THE ROAD DOWN TOWER IS 80 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY, CONSIDERED MAJOR COLLECTOR NEAR MOUNTAIN PEAK ELEMENTARY. TRAFFIC , THAT IS SOMETHING, TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE WERE TWO OF THE BIG TECHNICAL THINGS WE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT EARLY ON. HE DID A FAIR AMOUNT OF LEG WORK REACHING OUT TO NEIGHBORS TO TRY TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO TO COLLABORATE ON SOME RESPONSES TO THEIR CONCERNS, ALL OF THE APPLICANTS TONIGHT, YOU HAVE PRESENTATION, I LET THEM SAY MORE ABOUT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEY MADE THE EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE TO GET SOME OF THEIR FEEDBACK. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP WAS, WE HAVE EXISTING GATE AT THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY AT KING ARTHUR DRIVE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED TO P AND Z ABOUT, I WILL MENTION AT THE END OFFICIALLY, WE SOUGHT THEIR FEEDBACK , AS WELL AS YOURS, IF YOU WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING THIS GATE REMAIN CLOSED EXCEPT FOR THE PURPOSE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. STAFF 'S CONCERN WAS IF THIS ROAD WERE TO OPEN UP, IT TURNS INTO MORE OF A COLLECTOR ROAD RATHER THAN THE LOCAL ROAD IT CURRENTLY IS. THAT TENDS TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THINGS. WHILE THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE SPECIFICALLY IN THE ORDINANCE, IT IS GOOD TO KNOW WHAT Y'ALL'S COLLECTED OPINION ON THAT IS SHOULD THIS ORDINANCE BE APPROVED. AS FAR AS THE T.I.A., THE PUNCHLINE IS NOTHING WAS DROPPING BELOW LEVEL OF SEA. THEY WANT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES LIKE WIDEN TOWER ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT . STAFF HAS REACHED OUT TO TXDOT , I BELIEVE QUITE A WHILE BACK, AT LEAST ABOUT GETTING A SIGNAL LIGHT AT TOWER AND IPHONE 663, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK YET. THAT WAS A POINT P AND Z [00:50:04] ALSO RAISED, TRYING TO GET A LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION . THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, A FEW QUICK HIGHLIGHTS. THIS WOULD BE NORTH ON THIS LEFT-HAND SIDE. HERE, SURROUNDED BY THESE STREETS, WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ACRE PARKLAND DEDICATION. WE HAVE OPEN SPACE DETENTION AREA HERE AND HERE , SORRY, IT IS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THIS LOCATION IS FOR THE HOA PLAYGROUND . THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAD A CONCERN ABOUT, SOMEONE THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR NOW AND TO CITE THE PLAYGROUND THERE, THEY HAD NOT CHOSEN FOR THEMSELVES MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE APPLICANT IS THEY HAVE REACHED OUT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT NEIGHBOR MIGHT BE IN SUPPORT AND I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT, TALK TO THE NEIGHBOR . STAFF HAD PROPOSED A CONCERN , SHOULD WE LOOK AT ANOTHER LOCATION ON THIS PROJECT , ON THE ORDINANCE, THERE IS DRAFT CRITERIA. IF THAT LOCATION WERE NOT TO WORK WE HAVE CRITERIA WHERE WE CAN CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE LOCATION . SUCH AS KEEPING IT CONNECTED TO THAT PERIMETER SIX FOOT SIDEWALK, TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF LAND USAGE LIKE CLOSED ACRES. BACK HERE WILL BE THE NORTHEAST CORNER, MORE OPEN SPACE DETENTION, I WOULD ALSO NOTE WORKING WITH STAFF AND THEIR ENGINEERS, THEY ALSO WORKED TO TRY TO HAVE, WHAT I WILL CALL BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I WILL MAKE UP A TERM, A BREAK POINT HERE ACROSS THE LAND MEANING THAT FACE ROUGHLY 75% OF THAT LAND WILL FLOW TO STREET G SO THAT WAY LESS WATER IS CONVEYING ACROSS THE BACKSIDE THEY ALSO HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH NEIGHBORS, REACHED OUT TO THEM AND TALKED ABOUT ADDRESSING EXISTING DRAINAGE ISSUE FROM THAT POINT AS WELL. THEY HAVE TALKED TO, TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS ALONG THE WEST, EXISTING TROUBLE ROAD. THAT FRONT TOWER ROAD, SORRY FOR THE CUT OFF, THEY WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO TOWER ROAD. EVERYONE ELSE, THE HOA WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THIS GRAVEL DRIVE, TECHNICALLY THAT GRAVEL DRIVE IS ON THE THOMAS PROPERTY, EASEMENT. THE HOA WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE OF THE GRAVEL DRIVE TO SUPPORT THESE FOLKS. ALSO, OVER HERE WOULD BE MAILBOX AND IN PLACE FOR THE TRASH RECEPTACLES SO THESE FOLKS ALSO WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP THEIR MAIL AND TAKE THEIR TRASH THERE AS WELL. THAT IS THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT PLAN. HAS A PRESENTATION. THIS IS A MOCKUP ROUGHLY OF THE MIGRANT MIXER TO THESE PEOPLE, IT IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL PLAYGROUND. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE NEIGHBOR MIGHT BE SUPPORTIVE. THIS WAS COMPARISON CHART , IT WAS IN YOUR REPORT, THOMAS TRACK, BUT 2.0 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. THE HIGHLIGHTS WOULD BE GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT LARGER MINIMUM HOUSES ON A LITTLE BIT SMALLER LOT. OVERALL, THE NICE DENSITY PROPOSE FOR THOMAS TRACK IS 2.5 AND ALL THAT THOMAS TRAILS 2.74. THERE IS ABOUT AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET CLOSER TO THOMAS TRACK. IT IS KIND OF IN THE BALLPARK OF THE THOMAS TRAIL . THE OTHER THING, REALLY QUICK, FORGOT TO MENTION, THEY PUT THE SMALLER LOTS GENERALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE LARGER LOTS CLOSER TO THE PERIMETER BECAUSE THOSE NEIGHBORS TEND TO HAVE FOUR ACRE, TWO ACRE, ONE ACRE LOTS, TRYING TO PUT THEIR BIGGEST LOT NEXT TO THE LARGER LOTS. PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 4-1. TALKING ABOUT 12,000 SQUARE-FOOT PLAYGROUND LOCATION, THERE IS CRITERIA ON THE ORDINANCE STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH, IF WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE SHOULD WE APPROVE THIS AS WRITTEN, WE HAVE THAT TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER. AGAIN, MENTION NOT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ORDINANCE, WELCOME FEEDBACK REGARDING POSSIBLY KEEPING OF CLOSING , THE KING ARTHUR DRIVE AND EMERGENCY SERVICE ONLY ACCESS. BUT ONE OUTSTANDING ISSUE IS THE ISSUE OF A SIDEWALK ALONG TOWER ROAD. THE KIDS WHO LIVE THERE, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, WOULD HAVE A SAFE MEANS OF WALKING TO SCHOOL ON TOWER ROAD. THIS IS EXISTING THOMAS TRAIL AND THIS WOULD BE THE EDGE OF THE PROPOSED AREA. THIS IS ME POORLY MOCKING [00:55:02] SOMETHING UP TO SHOW, HERE'S THE PROPERTY LINE, IN THE PD , THIS WILL BE REQUIRED ANYWAYS , ONCE YOU LEAVE THE PROPERTY LINE, KIND OF LEAVING THE PD SO IT BECOMES A LITTLE DICEY AS TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY REQUIRE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR ANY OTHER EASEMENT AGREEMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE ON HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE A SAFE PLACE TO GET TO THE EDGE OF PROPERTY OVER TO CHARISMA DRIVE SO WE DISCUSSED IDEAS, ONE OF THEM IS CURRENTLY THIS WALKING TRAIL IS FENCED OFF, ON HOA PROPERTY. IF WE WANTED TO USE THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE HOA TRAIL, WE NEED TO PROVIDE ACCESS, YOU CAN'T BE BEHIND A LOCKED GATE. THE OTHER THING, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE EASEMENT AGREEMENT, UNDERSTOOD WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE OF PART OF HOA WALKING TRAIL ALSO SERVING AS A PUBLIC SIDEWALK. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE WORKED OUT IN SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT PART OTHERWISE, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE RUNNING THE SIDEWALK ALONG TOWER ROAD INSTEAD, AGAIN, THAT IS OFF-SITE, NOT PART OF THIS PD. ANY SUCH AGREEMENTS REALLY NEED TO BE COLLABORATED ON, WORKED ON WITH THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR REVIEW BY LEGAL, ON OUR END AS WELL AS THEIR END. WHILE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT, GENERALLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE ONE CAVEAT, WE WOULD ASK YOU, SHOULD YOU WANT TO APPROVE IT, TO DELAY THAT VOTE UNTIL OUR CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE HAD ADEQUATE TIME TO REVIEW ANY PROPOSED AGREEMENTS THAT MAY ADDRESS THIS ISSUE SHOULD THAT BE WHAT YOU WANT. I SENT OUT 65 LETTERS, WE HAD THREE PEOPLE, I WILL DESCRIBE ON THE FENCE, THEY HAD CONCERNS BUT WERE NOT SAYING THEY WERE OPPOSED OR NOT. WE GOT ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION CITING PRIMARILY TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND WE GOT ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT. WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AND APPLICANTS -- >> THANKS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THAT ARE NOT WITH APPLICANT? >> ANNE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> AMTRUST BANK, I DO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. I'M ONE OF THREE HOA BOARD MEMBERS WITH THOMAS TRAIL HOA. I MOVED THERE WHENEVER IT WAS BUILT IN 2019 AND HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD SINCE 2020. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, THAT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO THROUGH AND WE FULLY SUPPORT IT. IN ADDITION, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH WINFIELD SHOWING THE SITE PLANS TO US, WE FULLY SUPPORT THEM AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. IN ADDITION, THE PARK, WE THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT RIGHT AT OUR FRONT DOOR. WITH THE SIDEWALK, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE SIDEWALK GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE LINE, OPEN UP THE FENCES AND ALLOW WHERE WE COULD WALK TO THE PARK WITHOUT HAVING TO GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE TO GO ON TOWER ROAD. THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL, OPEN THAT UP TO WHERE WE CAN MAKE BOTH THOMAS TRAILS ONE COHESIVE COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL IT GOT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> TAMMY, ANYBODY ELSE FIND A TO SPEAK ? THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO SO NOW OR STAY FOR QUESTIONS AND VOTE. YES. >> WILL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING , SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS. PLEASE VOTE. EVERYONE VOTE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING , OKAY. IT PASSES 7-0, THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. MY NAME IS MIKE COLLINS AND I REPRESENT BLOOMFIELD HOMES, I LIVE AT 1806 SUMMIT RIDGE IN EULESS, TEXAS. ENTERING THIS EVENING BY DON --, THE FOUNDER OF BLOOMFIELD HOMES AND PRESIDENT AS WELL AS BRENT CALDWELL WITH GM CIVIL, THEIR FIRM WORKED ON THE SITE PLAN AND CIVIL [01:00:02] ENGINEER AS WELL AS TRAFFIC IMPACT ENOUGH -- ANALYSIS. I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING STAFF VERY MUCH, THIS TRULY HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, WE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO GET TO THIS POINT, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE THINGS TO REFLECT OUR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE HAD SEVEN MEETINGS DIRECTLY WITH STAFF WITH DRC , WE HAVE HAD 17 ON-SITE MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS. WE SPENT SEVERAL WEEKS VIRTUALLY GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR TO VISIT WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE EAST AND THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE. WE LAID OUT THE SITE PLAN FOR THEM, LAID OUT OUR PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE PLAN, WE TALKED WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ABOUT THEIR CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO USING THIS PROJECT AS A VEHICLE WITH THE CIRCUMSTANCE THEY ARE DEALING WITH. BRIAN , WITH HIS PRESENTATION, MENTION THE AREA WE WOULD LAY A CONCRETE PATH THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COMBINED POST OFFICE OR MAILBOXES TO BENEFIT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE WEST. WE WANTED TO VISIT PERSONALLY WITH THE SOLID WASTE CONTRACTOR ABOUT WHETHER THEIR COMPANY WOULD BELIEVE THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDING AND THEY JUMPED ALL OVER IT, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SERVICE THEM FROM THAT. WENT BY AND VISITED WITH THE POSTMASTER, WHO HAD ONLY BEEN ON THE JOB A COUPLE MONTHS, WE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT OUR PLAN AND THEY SAID THAT WOULD BE A WELCOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR SERVICE DELIVERY, TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER MAIL FROM THAT LOCATION. DEVELOPING A PLAN IS NOT JUST WORDS ON PAPER AND COLORED PICTURES . THERE IS A LOT OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT IS DONE. TO DATE, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT . WE HAVE GONE THROUGH DETAILED SURVEY PROCESS, WE COMPLETED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS . AND WITH THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, THAT DEALT SPECIFICALLY MAKING SURE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD ADEQUATELY DEAL WITH CIRCUMSTANCE WITH THE SCHOOLS IN SESSION, WE MADE REVISIONS TO THAT T.I.A. . WE ALSO PAID FOR HYDRAULIC STUDY THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE CAPACITY OF THE SERVICE PROVIDER TO ADEQUATELY PROVIDE THE WATER AND ADEQUATE WATER PRESSURE TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT . THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN THAT WE HAD PROPOSED. I INDICATED THIS REALLY WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. DURING THE FIRST SEVERAL REVIEWS OF THAT ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, WE BELIEVE STAFF LAID OUT THREE PRIMARY PLANNING OR GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THIS SITE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO PROVIDE A SUBDIVISION THAT HAD BURIED LOT SIZES WITH ARCHITECTURAL VARIETY THAT COULD CREATE SOMETHING UNIQUE FOR THE MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY. THEY INDICATED THEY WOULD BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE IDEAL LOCATION FOR NEW CITY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE SITE LAYOUT AND THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HELP IMPROVE SOME OF THE OFF-SITE DRAINAGE CONDITIONS THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING. IN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT IS DETAILED, WE'VE GOT VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT DEALS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS , THE NON-REPETITIVENESS OF THE DIFFERENT DESIGNS THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION. IT IS REAL INTERESTING WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS LOT WITH -- WIDTHS. IT WORKS HAND IN GLOVE , VERY CREATIVE WITH THE DESIGN FEATURES . WE HAVE A BROCHURE THAT WE HANDED OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, IT IS NOT MERELY A SET OF PRETTY PICTURES OF WHAT CAN BE BUILT, THOSE ARE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN SUBDIVISIONS THROUGHOUT THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH MARKET, THERE ARE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT WITHIN 14 SUBDIVISIONS WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF ALREADY BEING A PART OF WITHIN THE CITY OF [01:05:03] MIDLOTHIAN. BRIAN HIGHLIGHTED DURING HIS PRESENTATION THAT RATHER THAN SIMPLY CONSTRUCTING THE STANDARD FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK WIDTHS, PERIMETER OF SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS WE BELIEVE WILL BE THE MORE INDUSTRY AND ORIENTED AND FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO USE AND FOR EXERCISE, HOPEFULLY FOR ACCESS INTO THAT NEW NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED. WE MENTIONED WEST SIDE HOME OWNERS FROM THE TRASH, THE MAILBOX COLLECTION . ONE OTHER ASPECT WE HAVE NOT MENTIONED IS FROM FIRE SERVICE PERSPECTIVE, THE PLACEMENT OF THE HYDRANT , WORKING WITH YOUR FIRE MARSHAL, THAT WOULD ALSO HELP IMPROVE THE FIRE SERVICE ON THE WEST SIDE. AGAIN, WE ARE DEDICATING A .2 ACRES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. WE WOULD REALLY EMBRACE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HAND-IN-HAND WITH YOUR STAFF AND THE DESIGN OF THAT. WE WILL SHOW YOU SEVERAL DIFFERENT DESIGN ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR SUBDIVISION, WE HOPE AS WE ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE PLANNING OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, PARKED, WHATEVER DESIGN FEATURES INCORPORATED INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO ESTABLISH ITS OWN IDENTITY, WE COULD INCORPORATE INTO SOME OF THE FEATURES IN THIS NEW SUBDIVISION AS WELL. SPECIFIC TO TOWER ROAD, WHILE IT WAS STATED WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS DEDICATING RIGHT-OF-WAY ADJACENT TO OUR SUBDIVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE FUTURE OF WIDENING AND IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE AND CONSISTENT WITH YOUR ORDINANCE, WE WOULD BE MAKING A CONTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES OF OVER $671,000 . THERE WAS ALSO SPECIFIC MENTION, I GOT A COUPLE SLIDES THAT I WILL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT GREATER DETAIL IN OUR PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE CROSSWALK. AS WELL AS THE HOA PARK, I HAVE MORE DETAIL AND A GRAPHIC THAT WOULD SHOW WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE PROPOSING . IN SUMMARY, WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING PART OF 14 SUBDIVISIONS IN YOUR COMMUNITY SINCE 2007 AND WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP ANOTHER SUBDIVISION AS WELL. I HAD MADE MENTION BRETT CALDWELL WITH GM CIVIL IS HERE, I WILL ASK HIM TO STEP FORWARD FOR A FEW MOMENTS AND GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAINAGE PLAN AND WHAT WE BELIEVE THEY CAN DO TO HELP IMPROVE THE OFF-SITE CONDITIONS. >> GOOD EVENING , MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. BRENT CALDWELL, CIVIL ENGINEER. THE EXISTING DRAINAGE PATTERNS ON THIS SITE GENERALLY DRAINED TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST, AND TO THE SOUTH. AS BRIAN POINTED OUT, THREE DISTINCT DRAINAGE AREAS, ONE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, ONE AT THE SOUTH , ONE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND ONE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. MIKE SPENT UNSUITABLE TIME SPEAKING WITH MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND OUR PROPERTY, DRAINAGE WAS A HOT TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AMONGST MOST OF THEM. WHAT WE WILL DO WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE AREAS IS OVER DETAINED, BASICALLY DOWN TO CONDITIONS RECEIVING PROPERTIES CAN ACCEPT OUR RUNOFF. WE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS AND FEEL LIKE WE CANNOT ONLY DEVELOP OUR PROJECTS SUCCESSFULLY FROM DRAINAGE STANDPOINT BUT HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE GRIEVANCES CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE FACING. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE MORE OF YOUR PRESENTATION? >> A COUPLE MORE SLIDES. >> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT ACCESS WE WOULD BE PROVIDING FOR THE SCHOOLCHILDREN. THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE WAS INTRODUCED DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. IN RESPONSE TO THAT, AS THE HOA BOARD MEMBER INDICATED, WE HAD THE SECOND OF TWO MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE AND YOU HEARD FROM A MEMBER OF THE HOA BOARD THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF ALLOWING THAT CONNECTION AND PERMANENT ACCESS ACROSS THE SIDEWALK AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THAT IN PERPETUITY FOR [01:10:03] THAT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. SO FURTHER, IN ORDER TO FORMALIZE THAT AGREEMENT, WE ALREADY PRESENTED A DRAFT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THEIR REVIEW. WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED AT P AND Z AND COMMITTING TO THE PODIUM BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IS, WE WILL BUILD A SIDEWALK AND YOUR SAFEGUARD WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD COMMIT TO BUILDING A SIDEWALK WITHIN THAT TOWER ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT IS ADJACENT TO THAT THOMAS TRAIL PHASE ONE. WE WOULD FURTHER COMMIT THAT YOU COULD INCLUDE AS PART OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WE WOULD BE DEVELOPING WITH THE PHASE ONE, TWO INCLUDE THAT SECTION OF SIDEWALK THAT IS ADJACENT TO THAT HOA LAND AND WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL UNTIL COMPLETION OF NOT ONLY ALL ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE BUT ALSO INCLUDING THAT SIDEWALK THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THAT HOA. THAT IS YOUR SAFEGUARD. OUR EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT ALREADY MADE BY THE HOA BOARD, AND THE FACT THAT Y'ALL ALREADY HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO REVIEW , WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP AN AGREEMENT THE CITY WOULD BE SATISFIED AND THAT WOULD NEGATE THAT OBLIGATION OF CONSTRUCTING THE TOWER ROAD SIDEWALK WITHIN THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ENABLE US TO CONNECT INTO THAT HOA SIDEWALK. AGAIN, IF FOR SOME UNFORESEEN REASON THAT AGREEMENT CANNOT BE REACHED, YOUR SAFEGUARD IS YOU HAVE OUR COMMITMENT THAT A SIDEWALK WILL BE BUILT ADJACENT TO THAT HOA THAT WILL CONNECT INTO THAT SIDEWALK , THAT WE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING AS PART OF OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT. A COUPLE MORE SLIDES HERE. THIS REFLECTS WHAT THE ENTRYWAY FEATURE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO DEVELOP WITH WROUGHT IRON FENCING THAT WOULD SURROUND THAT DRAINAGE AREA AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER . IT IS NOT JUST A PRETTY PICTURE, ON PAPER, THESE ARE ACTUALLY EXAMPLES OF ENTRYWAY FEATURES, IF WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH A FEW OF OUR SUBDIVISIONS WE HAVE DEVELOPED, THESE ARE ACTUAL ENTRYWAY FEATURES AND HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN THE COMMUNITY. REAL BRIEFLY, AGAIN, I PASSED OUT THE BROCHURE THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE ACTUAL PRODUCT THAT BLOOMFIELD WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING. THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD BE CODIFIED THROUGH YOUR ORDINANCE, THEY WOULD BE CARRIED OVER INTO THE CCN OURS AS WELL. AS YOU LOOK AT THE BROCHURE AND VARIOUS PICTURES , YOU CAN SEE HOW THE COMBINATION OF THE LOT SIZES ENABLES THE VARIATION OF THE DIFFERENT GARAGE CONFIGURATIONS OF THE TWO CAR GARAGE, 2 1/2, THREE CAR GARAGES IN COMBINATION WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSTRUCT THE SWING, COMBINE THAT WITH OTHER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FEATURES, THAT IS WHAT ENABLES EACH ONE OF THE DESIGNS TO BECOME UNIQUE AND OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SEMI CUSTOM FIELD TO EACH AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. AS MUCH TIME AS WE TEND TO FOCUS ON, WHAT DO THESE HOMES LOOK LIKE FROM THE OUTSIDE, WE SPEND JUST AS MUCH ATTENTION TO THE DETAIL OF THE INTERIOR . WE JUST FINISHED A PROCESS INTERNAL TO THE COMPANY OVER THE LAST YEAR WHERE I GUESS YOU COULD LIKEN IT TO CLOTHING TRENDS, TRENDS AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN HAVE THEIR OWN TRENDS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RESPONDING TO WHAT THE MARKETPLACE IS ASKING US TO DO . ALL OF THESE FEATURES THAT ARE INCORPORATED ARE STANDARD ITEMS, THAT IS WHAT COMES WITH THE HOMES WHEN YOU ORDER THEM . ONE THING WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IS THAT ENERGY EFFICIENCY, I WON'T BORE YOU READING OFF THE SLIDE, WE OFTEN HEAR FROM FOLKS MOVING FROM AN OLDER HOME OR APARTMENT THAT THEY CANNOT BELIEVE THE SAVINGS THAT THEY EXPERIENCE WITH THE UTILITY BILLS. ALL OF THESE FEATURES, AS I INDICATED, COME STANDARD IN EVERY BLOOMFIELD HOME THAT IS PURCHASED . WE TEND TO WANT TO END WITH A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION, OF PARTICULAR NOTE IN THE BROCHURE THAT I PASSED OUT TO YOU, THERE IS A STANDALONE SHEET THAT RESIDENTIAL STRATEGIES PUT TOGETHER . YOU WILL SEE THERE [01:15:02] ARE BLOCKS OF HOMES IN FIVE DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS. WHAT THIS WOULD REFLECT FOR THE HOMES WHOSE VALUES ARE BETWEEN 440 AND 530 AND HIGHER PRICE POINT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE BLOOMFIELD HAS DOMINATED AS NUMBER ONE IN THAT MARKET FOR THAT PRODUCT . THANK YOU FOR INDULGING US WITH YOUR TIME AND LISTENING, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGH PRESENTATION FROM YOURSELF AND STAFF AS WELL. STAY CLOSE, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS. BRIAN, IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP , I HAVE SOME COMMENTS BUT I WILL HOLD THEM AND ALLOW COUNCILS TO START THE DISCUSSION. >> CLARK . >> A COUPLE QUESTIONS, WHO DETERMINES THE PARK SPACE, IS THAT THE DEVELOPER ON WEAR THAT EIGHT ACRES? >> WHY THE EIGHT ACRES AND THE LOCATION ? >> THOMAS TRAILS, ONE OF THEM, IT SEEMS LIKE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, PUTTING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, RIGHT OVER MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, PUTTING LITTLE KIDS NEXT TO SPEEDING CARS IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WAS THAT DEVELOPER PUSHED TOWARD THE FRONT OR THE STAFF OR A RANDOM SITE SELECTED ON THE EIGHT ACRES? >> I THINK WE ALL HAD DIFFERENT CONCERNS, I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY HOW IT STARTED OFF. WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ULTIMATELY HAVING A PARK PLAN DESIGN, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE, WHICH MADE POTENTIALLY ADDRESS THE CONCERN YOU'RE MAKING, ARE WE ENCOURAGING ACTIVITY OF KIDS TO CLOSE TO ROADWAYS, GO CHASING THE BALL INTO TOWER ROAD OR SOMETHING. WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN FOR THAT BUT THOUGHT, DESIGN WORK, FENCING, LANDSCAPING MIGHT ADDRESS SUCH ISSUES. >> GIVEN THE LAST CASE, GREEN SPACE AND DEDICATION ON THE PARKWAY, THIS CONSISTENT PUTTING ALL OF OUR TRAILS AND STUFF ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THE BEST MOVE FOR US. ON THE PARKLAND, THE LOCATION PIECE, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, ON THE STAFF NOTES, TALKS ABOUT 25 UNITS, 100 UNITS, GOES ON TO SAY, PD REQUIREMENT 5% WHICH IS FOUR ACRES. WHEN WE REVIEW THESE DEDICATIONS , ARE WE LOOKING AT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION OR THE PD DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE 5%? >> REFERRING TO SOMETHING IN THE REPORT ? >> YES. >> THERE'S 5% OPEN SPACE WORK ON WHICH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION CAN COUNT AGAINST. >> IT IS NOT ONE OF TWO, SEPARATE THINGS. OPEN SPACE VERSUS PARK. >> CORRECT. >> THE PARK ALSO COUNTS AS OPEN SPACE. I'M FOLLOWING ALONG, I THOUGHT IT WAS AND/OR. THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. I FEEL LIKE , I HAVE BEEN HERE SEVERAL YEARS SO IT GETS BLURRY, I FEEL LIKE AT ONE POINT WE PUSHED HARDBACK ON THE FRONT TO JURY REQUIREMENTS. AT ONE POINT, WE SET A DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE OF WHAT WE ALLOWED, I'M LOOKING AT MIKE BECAUSE HE WAS ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME , I THOUGHT WE HAD COME BACK INSIDE, WE WANT FRONT ENTRY GARAGE IS UNDER 50% MOVING FORWARD. I THOUGHT WE HAD IT IN THERE, WE RODE IT INTO THE BILL OF STANDARDS. >> WHAT IS THE PERCENT OF STANDARDS? >> 65. >> AGAIN, IT IS BEEN A COUPLE YEARS AND THINGS GET LARRY. FRONT ENTRY PERCENTAGES ARE NOT IN CURRENT STANDARDS. I THOUGHT WE HAD ONE OR TALKED ABOUT IT . >> I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION. PROBABLY WHEN I'M REFERRING TO. >> >> RIGHT NOW IT IS 65. >> I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL NOTE TO STAY AWAY FROM FRONT ENTRY GARAGES. AS A MAXIMUM. >> MIKE KNOWS, WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS A COUPLE TIMES. THE OTHER THING, I HAVEN'T NOTED, ANOTHER PLAN , AND NOT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, I HAVE KNOWN FOR EVERY YEAR I HAVE BEEN HERE, CONSISTENTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW WE HAVE JASON LANE IN FRONT OF THE FRONT DOOR GOING INTO THE GARAGE. WE TALKED ABOUT TAKING THAT OUT, IT WOULD BE A SIDE ENTRY BUT IT WAS SIDE ENTRY ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE SETBACK 10 FEET SO PEOPLE COULD KEEP DOING THAT. THAT IS NOT IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS EITHER, THAT IS A NOTE IN THE PLAN. >> RIGHT, NOT IN THE ZONING CODE. >> OKAY. >> ROSS. [01:20:07] >> WITH THE MODULE, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR >> WHICH IS ONE TO THREE ACRE LOTS. >> YES . >> THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH OR CONCURRENTLY WITH COMPETENCE OF PLAN OR NO? I WAS KIND OF FUZZY THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN. >> IT WAS A LITTLE FUZZY, I ADMIT. WE ALSO HAVE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE AREA . >> 100% AGREE WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE . THE CHALLENGE WAS WITH ORIGINAL DIVISION AT THAT TIME, I SERVED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE CONSENSUS WAS BECAUSE IT DID ORDER FM 663, RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION, DENSER USE WAS APPROPRIATE. HOWEVER, SPECIFIC CONVERSATION, AS YOU TRAVERSE FURTHER BACK FROM FM 63 CORRIDOR, IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO GET LESS AND LESS DENSE. BASED ON CONVERSATION EARLIER, THIS IS MORE DENSE FROM THOMAS TRAIL FROM AKER STANDPOINT, IS THAT CORRECT ? >> OVERALL DENSITY SIMILAR, THE LOTS ARE GENERALLY NARROWER AND SMALLER. >> WE HAVE MORE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE . >> 2.85 VERSUS 2.75. >> GENERALLY ORDINANCE AND NOT LESS, TO ME IS A CONCERN. AS WE STEP BACK FROM THIS, WE HAVE VERY RURAL CROSS-SECTION PROPERTIES ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND WE HAD AUTHORITY. IF WE ARE NOT FEATHERING OUT TOWARD THE MORE RURAL CROSS-SECTION OF THE COUNTRY MODULE INTENDED TO BE THERE , TO BE THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE MORE DENSE RESIDENTIAL -- I THINK WE ARE CREATING FUTURE PROBLEMS FOR THE CITY TO DEAL WITH WHEN THEY ARE MAKING LOTS OF NOISES AT THE QUARRY, AS THEY ARE WONT TO DO, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RESIDENTS IMPACTED BY THAT. ADDITIONALLY TO THE SOUTH, THE AREA BEHIND ROSEBUD TO THE WEST, FM -- IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ONE UNIT FOR EVERY TWO ACRES, IS THAT CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> THAT IS LESSENING THE DENSITY AS IT TRAVERSES BACK, AS WELL AS THE AREA NORTH OF FOX RUN IS AGRICULTURAL OR FS 1 IN ZONING, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I SEE THIS NOT JUST FUDGING THE BOARD ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP, FLYING IN THE FACE OF THE INTENT PURPOSE OF FUTURE LAND USE. THE KING ARTHUR ACCESS I THINK IS NOT GOOD AT ALL. IT IS TWO VERY OIL AND WATER USES, IN MY OPINION. TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, ONE CROSS ACCESS INTO THOMAS TRAIL, THE LATEST DESIGN, IT HAS ONE IF NOT TWO -- I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD CREATE CONNECTIVITY THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. THE ONLY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THE PARK, LIKE CLARK WAS SAYING, I DON'T MIND IT BEING AT THE FRONT IF IT IS DESIGNED CORRECTLY BECAUSE IT IS A LOT BETTER THAN THE BACKSIDE OF HOUSES STACKED UP WITH A BRICK WALL AND A COUPLE SHRUBS THAT WE SEE ALL TOO OFTEN IN MANY OTHER SUBDIVISIONS. THIS ELDER AND MANY OTHER GOOD BUILDERS HAVE IN, BECAUSE OF DESIGN AND LIMITATION, WE CREATED CONCRETE CANYONS INSTEAD OF SOMETHING THAT FEELS LIKE A MORE RURAL PARKWAY DRIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF THAT. JUST SOME FEEDBACK. >> I WILL MOVE QUICK BECAUSE ROSS STOLE MOST OF MY ITEMS. I HAVE THE SAME NOTE WITH THE LAND-USE PLAN, WE ARE ABOUT TO GO INTO ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. WE SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT WE WANT BASICALLY THOMAS TRIAL, WHICH IS IN MEDIUM DENSITY, SPECIFICALLY WANT TO MOVE TO LOW DENSITY WHICH IS ONE TO THREE ACRE LOTS AND THE LARGEST IS HALF-ACRE. IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE GOING COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT WE ARE ABOUT TO DISCUSS. I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME WITH TOWER ROAD TRAFFIC, I LIVE IN THIS AREA, I SEE IT EVERY DAY . MORE CARS AND TRIPS ON THE TOWER ROAD ON 663 IS BAD AND I WOULD BE COMPLETELY AGAINST OPENING UP KING ARTHUR, THAT IS A COMPLETE NO GO FOR ME. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS , [01:25:03] ON WATER DETENTION, OVER DETAINING WATER, I'M NO EXPERT IN WATER ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OPEN DETAINING AND WHERE THAT IS GOING, THERE IS NO DETENTION PONDS THAT I KNOW SO WHERE IS ALL THE WATER GOING? >> I WILL LET AN ENGINEER ANSWER THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. THE OPEN SPACE DETENTION WOULD BE THIS LOCATION, THIS LOCATION, AND THIS LOCATION. >> THAT GIVES ME ENOUGH ANSWERS, I COULD NOT SEE IT IF IT WAS WRITTEN ON THE THOSE OF THE DETENTION AREAS AND THAT IS OVERESTIMATED OF WHAT IS NEEDED. >> WE WOULD PROVIDE MORE DETENTION TO KNOCK THE FLOWS DOWN LESS THAN THE EXISTING FLOWS TODAY BASED ON THE FACTS SPECIFICALLY TO THE NORTHWEST, THERE WAS NO DRAINAGE CONSIDERATION WHEN NOT SUBDIVISION WAS DEVELOPED WITH THE COUNTY YEARS AGO SO THAT WATER COMES THROUGH THOSE LOTS. WE WILL OVER DETAIN THOSE FLOWS TO ACCEPTABLE LEVEL THAT THEY CAN CONVEY THROUGH THAT SUBDIVISION. >> WHEN YOU SAY, WE WILL OVER DETAIN, IS THAT RIGHT THERE ? >> THE DETENTION POND. >> THAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN. >> THANK YOU . >> I WILL BE BRIEF WITH MY COMMENTS, I REITERATE THE DENSITY CONCERNS ROSS ELOQUENTLY EXPRESSED. I ALSO LIVE IN THIS AREA, I USED TO LIVE IN CAMELOT ESTATES, I'M A HEART NO TYING INTO CAMELOT ESTATES, PERIOD . THE WAIT TIME TO GET OUT OF CAMELOT ESTATES IS ALREADY RIDICULOUS. I DON'T BELIEVE TXDOT WILL RESPOND TO REQUEST FOR TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE AT TOWER ROAD, THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION BECAUSE THERE IS ONE SO CLOSE THAT CAL PEN. THIS WILL DRIVE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC THROUGH ROSEBUD, WHERE I LIVE CURRENTLY, ALONG CAL PEN TO THAT STOPLIGHT, THAT STOPLIGHT CURRENTLY, WHEN YOU TRY TO GET OUT OF THE ROSEBUD NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR WAITING TWO CYCLES FOR THE LIGHT TO GO THROUGH. I'M NO TRAFFIC ENGINEER, THEY HAVE T.I.A. REPORT, I SPEAK PERSONAL EXPERIENCE DAILY. GENERALLY SPEAKING FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, FOR STAFF 'S KNOWLEDGE, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HERE IS RIGHT. I THINK IT IS IN THE WRONG PLACE. >> THE FIRST QUESTION WILL BE ABOUT THE PARK SPACE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD PREVIOUS COMMENTS ON TOWER ROAD, IS THE WIDENING OF TOWER ROAD COMES THROUGH, IS THAT GOING TO ENCROACH UPON THAT GREEN SPACE ? >> NO, SIR, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THEY NEED TO DEDICATE FOR TOWER ROAD IS SEPARATE FROM THE CALCULATION OF THE PARKWAY DEDICATION. >> WILL NOT LOSE PARK SPACE. >> CORRECT. >> THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, A LOT OF WHAT ROSS MENTIONED I WILL ECHO THE SAME, MEANING, I REMEMBER, I THINK I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE PASSED THE TRUNK CORNER, A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WENT AROUND, THAT WAS COUNTRY MODULE, EXACTLY WHAT ROSS SAID WAS WHY WE WENT WITH 9000, 14,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. I HAD ASSUMED THAT SAME LOT SIZE AND PATTERN WOULD TRANSFER AROUND . WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE 9000 TO 14,000 SQUARE FOOT OR ON THE FRONT CORNER, THERE REALLY WASN'T A WAY FOR THAT TO EVEN HAVE AN IMPACT FROM A COUNTRY MODULE IMPACT BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS AROUND IT. THIS WILL BECAUSE OF THE BORDERING PROPERTY OWNERS. THE ONLY OTHER THING I'VE NOTICED BEING SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE , THIS WILL GO FOR THE DRAINAGE QUESTION , OF COURSE WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IF I CAN HIT THE BUTTON RIGHT, THERE WE ARE, SORRY, DID NOT MEAN TO POKE YOU IN THE EYE. THIS IS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ON THE BOTTOM, THIS IS THE WEST SIDE. WILL ANY WATER DRAIN TOWARD THE WEST AT ALL OR IS EVERYTHING HEADED TO THAT CONTAINMENT HOLE, ANY DRAINAGE BACK TO THE WEST? >> I WILL LET ENGINEERING. >> THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP, I FIND THIS ANOTHER ODDITY, THIS ROAD, WHICH I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH, HAS BEEN A MESS, TO PUT IT LIGHTLY, FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW WE HAD A HOUSE FIRE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. WE LIKE TO NOT GET OUR TRUCKS IN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS SO BAD I GUESS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THIS COMBINES WITH THE DRAINAGE COMING BACK, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, THIS WILL ALLOW TO BE A GRAVEL ROAD THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA OR THE [01:30:04] DEVELOPER . WITH FIRE ACCESS BACK THERE ALREADY BEING A MESS, DRAINAGE RUNNING BACKWARDS IN THE POTENTIAL AND KNOWING HOW THAT IS SET UP WITH NOT GOOD DRAINAGE, ESPECIALLY AS THOSE BACK HOMEOWNERS, THEY GROWING THEIR FAMILIES, THEY PUT IN POOLS AND CHANGE THE DRAINAGE, STORAGE BUILDINGS, WHY WOULD THAT BE CONCRETE ALLEY TO ENSURE WITHOUT A DOUBT WE CAN GET TRUCKS, FIRE TRUCKS DOWN BEHIND THOSE HOMES? STAFF. I'M ASKING, IS THERE A REASON THAT IS GRAVEL? BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL OF WE FEEL LIKE THERE WILL BE DEVELOPMENT EXPANSION TO THE WEST AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE TORE UP SOONER THAN WE THINK. IT IS LIKE A WASTE OF MONEY TO POUR CONCRETE ALLEY FOR FIRE TRUCK TO DRIVE DOWN? >> WE DID TALK TO THOSE RESIDENTS , THERE WAS SOME RECENT MEETING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ASSESS THAT ROADWAY. WASN'T THERE ? >> RIGHT. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS INTO THE FIRE MARSHALS, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, SO LONG AS THE GRAVEL MEETS THE STANDARD TO SUPPORT THE FIRE TRUCK, 90,000 SQUARE POUNDS PER INCH WHATEVER THAT IS, AS LONG AS IT IS CONSTRUCTED FOR THAT AND HAS THE RIGHT RADIUS AND ACCESS AND ABILITY -- >> I GUESS I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS , MYSELF AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH 42 GROUPS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE GRAVEL, IT IS RIDICULOUS. KNOWING THE SETTING OF THIS, THIS HAS NOT BEEN PRE-ENGINEERED, THIS IS OLD GRAVEL ROAD, YES, IT POSSIBLY COULD HOLD A FIRE TRUCK, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT MIGHT NOT BUT I FIND IT AN ODDITY THAT I HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH ALL THESE HOOPS, BUT WE WILL LEAVE THIS GRAVEL ROAD WORK . I THINK THE LENGTH OF WHAT THEY HAVE APPLIED , GET THIS TO WORK RIGHT, THE LENGTH THEY APPLIED THAT AND WHERE THEY HAVE IT STOPPING IS PERFECTLY, TO ME, THAT SHOULD BE A FORM OF A CONCRETE ALLEY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING A FIRE TRUCK DOWN. IF THAT WAS ONE HOME AND ONE DRIVEWAY DOWN THERE, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES DOWN THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET AROUND THAT NOT BEING CONCRETE. DO Y'ALL THINK I'M WRONG? TELL ME. >> IS THE ACTUAL ALLEY WHERE THERE IS A FENCE AND THAT IS THE DRIVEWAY TO THE OTHER -- >> THIS WAS EASEMENT ROAD, THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR HOUSES DOWN THERE, THEY GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO TOWER ROAD. >> I'M SEEING THAT. >> THERE IS A HOUSE FIRE AND THEY WILL BRING THAT HOUSE AND ALL OF THESE HOUSES DOWN THROUGHOUT THAT SLIP . >> THEY WOULD GO WITH THAT NEW ROAD. >> THEY WOULD ONCE THEY GOT TO THE CONCRETE . >> THEY WOULD TAKE THE CONCRETE PATH IN. >> THE PURPLE WOULD ALL BE GRAVEL. THAT IS THE PART I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> USUALLY STAFF IS QUITE A STICKLER AND FIRE , THAT IS, FOR CONCRETE TRANSIT. >> TO BE CLEAR, IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT TO FIRE CODE STANDARD, IT CANNOT BE GRAVEL ON DIRT, IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO STANDARD THAT COULD BE GRAVEL. THE OTHER THING WAS, OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS, HAVING TALKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THAT IS ALSO THE CHARACTER FOR THEM IS THE GRAVEL. >> I UNDERSTAND. THE OTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT THAT, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE SITE -- >> JUST ONCE. >> THERE IS A ROW OF TREES THAT WOULD BE ON THE BOTTOM INTO THAT ROADWAY, WHICH WHEN YOU GET THOSE WOOD FENCES DOWN THROUGH THERE AND FOLKS COME THROUGH THEIR, THAT WILL BE THROWING THE DUST UP AGAINST THE TREES IN THEIR BACKYARD . NONE OF THIS IS MAKING SENSE TO ME. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. MAYBE IT IS MY OWN PET PEEVE. >> I WILL GO TO WAYNE, HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK . >> I WILL SPEAK, I HAVE 12 ITEMS BUT 11 HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. MY BIGGEST CONCERN THAT HAS NOT BEEN FULLY ADDRESSED, I DON'T THINK, IS THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS . THE COMMENT WAS MADE WE HAD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS DONE, IS THAT PREDOMINANTLY ON TOWER ROAD OR IS THAT WITH 663? BECAUSE ADDRESSED 663 CONCERN BACKED UP , PEOPLE COMING ONTO 663, KIND OF LIKE BEING AT A CONVENTION [01:35:02] CENTER OR GO TO A CONVENTION, YOU ARE IN HIGH-RISE HOTEL, YOU GET ONTO , IF YOU'RE AT THE VERY TOP, YOU GET ONTO THE ELEVATOR FIRST, EVERY TIME IT OPENS UP, IT IS AWFUL AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE ARE STANDING THERE SEE ALL THE WAY DOWN, GOES BACK UP, PEOPLE LOADED UP ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE, THEY NEVER GET ON THE ELEVATOR TO GET DOWN TO BREAKFAST. THAT IS WHAT WE SEE ON 663. I'M WONDERING, I ALSO ASKED THE MAYOR , I DON'T KNOW WE EVER HAVE ANY HOPE OF SEEING A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT TOWER WITH KAPLAN BEING AS CLOSE THAT IS IS, IT SEEMS WE HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS ALL THE WAY THROUGH WITH THIS. I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING OR READ ANYTHING WITH THE ANALYSIS OF TRAFFIC WAS. I JUST HEARD MENTION SEVERAL TIMES THERE WAS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. >> I WILL LET THE ENGINEER SPEAK TO THE DETAILS OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. >> OKAY. >> AS MIKE MENTIONED WITH HIS PRESENTATION, WE HAD INITIALLY, AND TOOK TRAFFIC COUNTS I BELIEVE IN JUNE, THERE WAS CONCERN ON STAFF'S PART, IT DID NOT CAPTURE TRAFFIC PATTERNS WHEN SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION. WE WENT OUT AND PROGRAMMED TRAFFIC ACCOUNTS ON AUGUST ON TUESDAY, PERFORMED 24-HOUR COUNTS AT BOTH TOWER AND 663 AND KING ARTHUR AND 663 TO PERFORM ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF EXISTING CONDITIONS OUT THERE. >> DID YOU DO -- >> WE DID NOT. >> SECTORS BASICALLY KNOWING THAT TOWER WAS THE MAIN CONNECTION TO 663 AND THE CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION AT KING ARTHUR WAS ALSO A CONVERSATION TO KEEP THAT OPEN OR CLOSE IT, WE PERFORMED ANALYSIS UNDER BOTH SCENARIOS, QUITE FRANKLY, ONE WHERE THE CONNECTION WAS OPEN TO ALLOW TRAFFIC AND ONE WHERE IT WAS CLOSED. THE DIFFERENCE WE SAW THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND LEVEL OF SERVICE AT EACH INTERSECTION WAS NEGLIGIBLE DIFFERENCE. >> CASINO, A LOT OF FOLKS AVOID THE STOP SIGN AT TOWER SO THEY DIVERT TO MCALPINE TO CATCH THE LIGHT BECAUSE IT IS QUICKER THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU GOT AN ACCURATE COUNT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET IT. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ACCESS THAT HE MENTIONED, PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. EXISTING RIGHT OF ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS OF ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST, BURDENS THE PROPERTY UNDER THE EAST WHICH IS THOMAS TRAIL 2 PROPERTY, IF THERE IS NO WRITTEN AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES YOU FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT TO DRIVE DOWN, DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PAVED OR GRAVEL, DOES NOT HAVE TO BE FIRE CODE, NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE REFERENCE TO THAT. I DO THINK ONE PLUS OF THE APPLICANT AS THEY ARE CREATING STABLE CONCRETE DRIVE AT LEAST TO THAT POINT, TAKING OVER MAINTENANCE WITH THE HOA, AS WE SEE OFTEN, PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENTS. IF THERE IS NO AGREEMENT OR THERE IS, APPROVAL OF NEIGHBORS TO GET EVERYONE TO PAY FOR IT, OVERLAID TO BRING THE GRAVEL DOWN, RING IT UP TO >>>, THE HOA TAKING IT OVER, TAKING SOMETHING IS A PROBLEM NOW AND CREATING SOMETHING THAT WILL BE MUCH LESS OF A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW REQUIRING TO BURDEN THE PROPERTY OWNER TO PAVED WITH CONCRETE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IS SOMETHING WE AS A CITY NEED TO BE DOING PRIVATE ACCESS AGREEMENTS. THAT IS JUST ONE MAN'S OPINION AS IT RELATES TO ACCESS EASEMENTS. >> I HAVE A MOTION . >> ALLEN. >> I HAVE A QUESTION RELATED TO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AND MORE OF A PROCESS QUESTION . FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND , IN THE PROCESS OF THEM DEDICATING THIS PARKLAND, IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK ITSELF IS ON THE DEVELOPER, THE MAINTENANCE AND TAKEOVER OF THE CONTINUAL MAINTENANCE GOES TO THE PARKS AND REC , IS THAT STANDARD HOW IT WORKS? >> I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS >> I THINK ALLEN, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT THEY WOULD AID, THERE IS A FEE BECAUSE I DON'T GET THE TOTAL DEDICATION SO THEY CAN UTILIZE SOME OF THAT FEE IN LIEU OF TO BUILD A PARK REALLY, THE DEDICATION, IT WOULD BE ON US, EVERYTHING WOULD BE ON US TO DEVELOP THAT PARK. WE WOULD USE PARK DEDICATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO DEVELOP THAT PARK. >> WITH THAT , WHAT YOU'RE [01:40:04] SAYING IS, THAT PIECE OF LAND THAT IS DEDICATED, I THOUGHT EARLIER WHEN CLARK WAS CLARIFIED IT WAS IN EXCESS OF THE REQUIRED -- >> NO. NOT FOR THE DEDICATION BECAUSE THEY ARE DEDICATING ABOUT 8.2, I THINK WHAT WAS REQUIRED WAS GREATER THAN THAT. DELTA WAS GOING TO BE FEE IN LIEU OF. ABOUT 1 1/4, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PARK DEDICATION FEE IN LIEU OF IS, THEY COULD UTILIZE THAT MONEY RATHER THAN PAY US THAT MONEY TO BUILD THAT PARK OR BUILD A PORTION OF THAT PARK. OTHERWISE, WE WILL TAKE THAT MONEY AND WE WILL BUILD A PARK. WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS, IT COULD BE A BIG PASSING SPACE. I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT . THEY ARE BUILDING HOA PLAYGROUND SO WE MIGHT ENHANCE IT SOME OTHER WAY. >> FROM THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, DOES THAT BECOME A PUBLIC PARK ? >> IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC PARK . RELATED TO THE TOWER ROAD ISSUE , THAT IS LARGER THAN THE TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. THAT WILL ATTRACT ROSEBUD, A LOT OF PEOPLE SO THAT IS ONE REASON WHY WE DON'T PUT IT BACK INTO THE BACK PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT A REGIONAL PARK BUT LARGER THAN A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS GETTING TWO'S, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE LARGER THAN A TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK OR VERY LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, WHEN WE HAVE THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND WE ARE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER , ARE WE ASSESSING AT ALL THE OVERALL PARKS PLAN AND THE COST OF MAINTENANCE IN RELATION TO WHERE THESE ARE LOCATED, HOW LARGE THEY ARE? DO WE ASSESS THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS ? >> YES, IN RELATION TO THE PARK MASTER PLAN. >> OKAY. >> THE GREATER SCOPE OF MIDLOTHIAN IN NEED OF PARKLAND, THINGS LIKE THAT , LET'S SAY , TOTALLY BLANK DEVELOPMENT BY COMMUNITY PARK , LAWSON FARMS. SAY THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME ACROSS FROM THERE OR SOMEWHERE CLOSE, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS SAY, WE DON'T NEED PARKLAND DEDICATION BECAUSE WE HAVE OVER 100 ACRE PARK, FEE IN LIEU OF, DEDICATE ENHANCED COMMUNITY PARK RATHER THAN DUPLICATING LAND WE ALREADY HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THAT SPACE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. >> HEATHERS GOING THROUGH THAT, USE DEVELOPMENT, IT IS A NEW PROCESS BUT SHE IS LOOKING INTO THAT. ALONG WITH WHAT KIND OF FEATURES, I KNOW HER AND THE DEVELOPERS TALKED ABOUT PING-PONG TABLES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY TALKED ABOUT, DIFFERENT FEATURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO WE ARE NOT DUPLICATING THINGS. >> THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WASN'T PART OF THE PROCESS AND WE AREN'T JUST PUMPING OFF RANDOM NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, HEATHER WILL GO TAKE CARE OF THIS. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT WITH THE LARGER PARKS, IT WILL MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE FOR THE MOWERS OR MAINTENANCE PEOPLE TO GO TO SEVEN ACRE PARK AND TAKE CARE OF THAT RATHER THAN FIVE, ONE ACRE PARKS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT IS ALL MY QUESTIONS. I WILL SAY THIS, I'M REAL APPRECIATIVE TO YOU GUYS , THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST STORE OH PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE GOTTEN ON ONE OF THESE IN A LONG TIME, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WHICH IS NOT BEEN LONG, A LITTLE WHILE. AND I'M SUPER APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, THE TIME INVESTMENT, EVEN THE BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING YOU GUYS I WENT THROUGH LEADING UP TO THIS POINT. I THINK THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS OF SUCH A HIGH PROPORTION, I THINK IT IS ALMOST UNFAIR TO YOU GUYS WITH AS MUCH TIME AS YOU PUT INTO THIS, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WAY TO ATTACK THAT TRAFFIC ISSUE BECAUSE OF 663 NOT BEING WITHIN OUR ABILITY TO TACKLE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS LIKE THE LIGHT OR OTHER THINGS THAT COULD IMPROVE THAT SITUATION. I HATE IT BECAUSE OUR HANDS ARE KIND OF TIED AND WHAT THAT COULD TURN INTO SO IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT CONCERN IS OF SUCH BIG PROPORTION AND WE HAVE SO LITTLE CONTROL OVER THE OUTCOME OF THAT. I AM SUPER GRATEFUL FOR HOW THOROUGH YOU GUYS WERE THROUGHOUT THE [01:45:05] PROCESS AND HOW MUCH YOU PUT INTO IT. >> THANK YOU, ALLEN. I ENTERTAIN YOUR MOTION . >> MOTION TO DENY. >> MISSION TO DENY ON THE TABLE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MOTION TO DENY BY MAYOR PRO TEM WICKLIFFE. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM IS DENIED 7-0. THAT WRAPS UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. LET'S [2024-398] MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, OPEN ITEM 2024 -398, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ORDINANCE ADOPTING A FUTURE MIDLOTHIAN 2045 CONFERENCE UPON EXITING THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN . COME ON UP , DANIEL. WELCOME BACK . IF YOU COULD GO OVER SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS MADE, DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO ALL THE LENGTHY DETAILS OF EVERYTHING DONE AT THIS POINT, JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE LEFT OFF TWO WEEKS AGO AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE. >> PERFECT, LESS THAN FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION, WE ARE AT THE ONE YARD LINE. OF COURSE WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH 20 MONTH SCHEDULE , OPEN HOUSES, FEEDBACK WITH STEERING COMMITTEE, PLANNED ZONING , WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE FIRST ONE WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR COUNTRY MODULE, TALKED ABOUT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USAGE, LESS INTENSIVE AND COMPLEMENT THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE RURAL AREAS. WE ADDED THAT TEXT IN THERE. TO HAVE DEVELOPED MEANT OF APPROPRIATENESS OF DARKER, DARK BOXES THAT INDICATE THEY ARE APPROPRIATE SO WE TOOK ONE OF THE BOXES OUT FOR THE INDUSTRIAL USE. NUMBER 2 , WE TALKED ABOUT YOUR FIRST CASE, HEARING ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY AND PARKING CONDITIONS SHOULD ALLOW FOR PROPER VEHICLES STACKING OUTSIDE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PEDESTRIAN HOMES HAVING PARKING, THE IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON THE J HOPE , HOW THAT SHOULD BE ADDED, WE ADDED THAT WORDING, DO NOT IMPEDE OR CROSS IN FRONT OF HOMES FRONT DOORS, AN EXAMPLE OF THAT PHOTO, ONE OF THOSE. THE MAIN THING THAT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON WAS WE REDUCED THE ULTIMATE POPULATION OF BUILDOUT FOR THE TOWN. WHAT WE DID WAS PRODUCE THAT FROM 140,000 TO 110. YOU CAN SEE HOW WE DID THAT HERE, REDUCED THE ESSENTIAL MEDIAN DENSITY FROM EIGHT DWELLING UNITS TO FOUR WITH HIGH DENSITY FROM 18 TO 12 FOR ORIGINAL 18 TO 12 AS WELL. WE ADJUSTED THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATENESS OF RESIDENTIAL MEDIAN DENSITY MODULE FROM TWO BOXES DOWN TO WANT TO BETTER ALIGN WITH REVISED LOWER DENSITY. AND WE UPDATED THE POPULATION TABLES AND ALL OF THAT TO COINCIDE WITH THAT , THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT POPULATION TABLE SO YOU CAN SEE THE STRIKEOUTS AND EDITIONS OF THE UPDATE TO THAT TABLE. YOU CAN SEE ONCE AGAIN, THE NEW BUILDOUT, IF EVERYTHING DEVELOPS AT THE MAXIMUM DENSITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN, IT IS 110, IT COULD BE LESS THAN THAT IF SOMEONE CHOOSES NOT TO DEVELOP TO THE THREE DWELLING UNITS AND ACRE OR FOUR MILLION UNITS AND ACRE . WE ADVISE THE ORIGINAL TOWN MODULE, THE APPROPRIATENESS, HAVING SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AS PREFERRED RATHER THAN THE STANDALONE MULTI FAMILY SO MARKING THAT. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MULTI FAMILY, WE MENTIONED EXCEEDINGLY IDEAL RATIO IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY HOUSING POLICY, WE HAD THE HOUSING POLICY UP THERE SO MAKING SURE THAT WAS CLEARLY TIED TO THE HOUSING POLICIES AND OUR DESIRED RATIOS. WE HAVE THIS OTHER ELEMENT ABOUT TALKED ABOUT CLEAN ENERGY AND ALL ASPECTS OF THAT, TOOK THAT OUT, YOU CAN SEE THAT CROSS OUT. THAT ALSO WENT INTO REMOVE THE REBATES, TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ELEMENTS FOR THAT SO WE TOOK THAT OUT. ADUS INCENTIVES IS GONE FROM THE PLAN, TOOK THAT OUT. WE TALKED ABOUT ALSO, ONE SPOT WE DID NOT HAVE TM 4 WITH THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, ADDED THAT. CLEANED UP SOME TYPOS WHICH ROLLED UP INTO MINOR UPDATES TO TABLES. ONE ADDITIONAL EDIT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS STAFF, THERE WAS ONE, WHICH IS WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALSO, TWO SMALL CHANGES TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP. THIS FIRST ONE HERE, YOU WILL SEE IS A LITTLE RANT, SORT OF HARD TO SEE, THAT RENT IS GONE ON 67. COURTNEY WITH MIKE ON THIS AND [01:50:02] THE OTHER ONE WAS CHANGING THE ORIGINAL ONE OR THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE DRAFT, YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN LINE CONNECTING AND THAT WOULD NOT GO UNDER OR BY THE HIGHWAY, INSTEAD CONNECTING ON THE SOUTH SIDE. THOSE ARE THE TWO CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT WITH MIKE, MAKING AND ADJUSTING, WHEN IT TO PROPOSE THAT AS WELL. IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO ADOPT A PLAN, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND ADOPT IT WITH THESE TWO MINOR CHANGES TO THE THOROUGHFARE AND PLAN THAT WE COORDINATED WITH MIKE. THAT IS IT FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE FROM LAST WEEK AND THE SMALL, MINOR EDITS WE HAD TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAPS. IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ITEMS. >> YOU MENTIONED FOR CLARITY FOR THE FOLKS WATCHING ONLINE OR WATCHING THIS LATER, THE ULTIMATE ABOUT IS 110,000, TERMINOLOGY OF THE WORD ULTIMATE DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN IDEAL BUT MAXIMUM. MAXIMUM BUILDOUT WOULD BE 110,000.'S ROSS . >> IMPORT TO FOOTNOTE THAT AS WELL, THE LAST CASE TO ILLUSTRATE, IF WE OR FUTURE COUNCILS ARE APPROVING PROJECTS THAT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM DENSITIES OF A DO YOU MODULES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT MODEL BECOMES INEFFECTIVE AND ERRONEOUS. I THINK IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT AS WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND OF USE PLAN, LOOK AT IT NOT MAYBE THE SAME GRANULAR ZONING REQUEST, IT NEEDS TO BE SCRUTINIZED TO THE LEVEL OF ALLOWING US TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. IF WE CONTINUE TO APPROVE THINGS IN THE COUNTRY MODULE SUITED MORE DENSE THAN A COUNTRY MODEL, THAT ONE 10 BECOMES 120 , 125, 140 VERY QUICKLY. IN THAT VEIN, THE PREVIOUS CASE, RESPECT TO FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, IT APPEARS THE SECTION TO THE WEST OF THOMAS TRAIL, TO THE NORTH OF ROSEBUD AND NORTH OF FOX RUN, HAS MORPHED INTO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS THE OFFER FOR ACCORDION, THAT PIECE SHOULD CONNECT THE TWO COUNTRY MODULE PIECES. FORGIVE ME, LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THE GRID . THAT WILL BE C 5 AND A LITTLE BIT OF D 5. >> >> CORRECT. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THAT WHOLE SECTION, I HAVE ONE OF THESE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT, WE CAN'T. THAT WHOLE SECTION IS COUNTRY MODULES. THE STRIP OF THE LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS APPROPRIATE THAT WHERE WE HAVE THE COUNTRY MODULE TO THE NORTH AND COUNTRY MODULE TO THE SOUTH, THOSE TWO REALLY SHOULD BE CONNECTED. IN MY OPINION. AND NOT BE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. OTHERWISE, WHAT WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT NOW BECOMES COMPLIANT AND APPROPRIATE IN THAT AREA INSTEAD OF INAPPROPRIATE IN THAT AREA FOR THE REASONS WE JUST DENIED IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DISINGENUOUS FOR US NOT TO MAKE THAT A MINUTE TO FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TO MOVE THAT BACK TO COUNTRY MODULE IN THAT SECTION BACK THERE BEHIND . GIVE ME A STICK , I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. >> I THINK I KNOW WHERE HE'S TALKING ABOUT. >> ESSENTIALLY, HERE DOWN TO HERE. >> DIPPING DOWN BEHIND ROSEBUD. >> CORRECT. >> >> YOUR BUFFERING THAT QUARRY WITH LARGER LOTS. >> PROBLEMATIC . YEAH. >>'S COUNCIL AMENABLE TO DISCUSS -- >> HOLD ON, I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH ROSS IT WAS A POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE WITH THE LAST CASE, I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER WORD FOR IT, WE HAVE THE SEEPAGE OF HIGH DENSITY THAT KEEPS SEEPING AND SEEPING AND AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO FIND THAT POINT WHERE WE TRANSITION BACK TO LOWER DENSITY . I THINK BY WHAT ROSS WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT WILL ACHIEVE THAT ON THE SOUTH OF TOWN . >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ISSUE WITH WHAT ROSS PRESENTED? >> IF I MAY INDULGE, THERE'S ONE OTHER AREA DRAINAGE LAND I THINK IS APPROPRIATE TO LOOK AT WHICH IS IN C 3, PRIMARILY, THAT WILL BE U.S. 287 FRONTAGE [01:55:08] ACROSS FROM -- RESERVE WHERE WE HAVE REGIONAL MODULE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL . WHAT I WOULD SAY, WE NEED A SWATH ON HIGHWAY 287 CORRIDOR THAT IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA. WITH THE RETAIL AND REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT WE ARE DOING, IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE MORE DENSITY CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY THERE , NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE BUT MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF THE LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, BECAUSE -- >> TO BE A BUFFER -- >> WE'VE GOT, THIS IS DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS. THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. KIND OF COMING AROUND , SHOULD BE MORE -- GO ON THAT HIGHWAY. RE-CREATES A BUFFER BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL -- >> THAT WAS ALREADY BEING PROPOSED THERE ANYWAYS, MEDIUM ? >> ESSENTIALLY CHANGING FROM MAX THREE , THIRD ACRE LOTS MAXIMUM TO A QUARTER ACRE LOTS MAXIMUM IN THAT AREA ALONG THE HIGHWAY WHERE IT HAS, YOU HAVE A GREAT SEPARATE CROSSING , FORT WROTE ON TXDOT FUTURE PLANS DESIGNED TO HANDLE THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC AND BUFFER AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL . >> THANK YOU, ANOTHER SUGGESTION. COUNCIL WANT TO DEBATE THAT OR DISCUSS THAT OR HAVE ISSUE ? OKAY. CLARK. >> NO . >> CHRIS . >> CANNOT ASK A QUESTION REALLY QUICK? GOING BACK TO THE SECTION WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE , WHICH AFFECTED THE DEVELOPMENT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT . I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WENT OVER FAR ENOUGH TO GRAB THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WE JUST VOTED ON . >> IT WOULD MORE OR LESS BISECT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY SHOWING IT GOING FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS WHAT THOMAS TRAIL IS, TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COUNTRY MODULE . >> YOU WANT TO THAT PARCEL IN HALF? >> THESE ARE NOT SURVEYED LINES, THEY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AS AREAS OF GRADIENT, SHOW TRANSITION, I THINK THAT ADEQUATELY SHOWS THAT TRACTION TRANSITION YEARS. WITH LOW-DENSITY RETAIL AND COUNTRY MODULE, IT MIGHT HAVE HALF-ACRE LOTS, FEATHERED UNTIL ONE ACRE OR TWO ACRE LOTS AS WELL MOVING FURTHER TOWARD THE COUNTRY MODULE. I THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO BISECT THE TRAFFIC IN THAT MANNER . >> IS LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL LOW-DENSITY, THREE TO 12 UNITS IN ACRE, 3.85, WITHIN THAT RANGE, I DID NOT KNOW IF WE WERE GOING TO GRAB THE ENTIRE SECTION. >> I THINK TAKE IT OUTSIDE THOMAS TRAIL, GO STRAIGHT UP -- >> THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING. I SAW THAT YOU DREW A LINE, DID NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO THOMAS TRAIL . >> MY MIND WAS INTENTIONAL TO SHOW THAT AS A TRANSITION TRACK , NOT TO SAY WILL GO FROM HARD STOP OF THIS TO THAT. WE SHOULD FEATHER SOME OF THIS STUFF, NOT JUST HAVE THREE ACRE, THIRD ACRE , IT IS NOT A SURVEY LINE, IT IS A BOUNDARY AREA. >> ON THE PROJECT WE JUST LOOK THAT, I'M ASSUMING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, THERE'S MORE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THAT ALL THE WAY -- MINIMALLY , WHAT WE WOULD SEE WITH THE PROJECT , THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM OF 10 TO 15,000, THE CONTINUANCE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO THE EASEMENT, THROUGH THAT STOP, THE HARD-LINE, ONCE WE GET PAST THAT, TRANSITIONING QUICKLY GOING TOWARD COUNTRY MODULE AS WE HIT -- >> THE WAY I WOULD INTERPRET THE CHANGE I'M MAKING, THE PORTION OF THE TRACK IS ADJACENT TO THOMAS TRAIL APPROPRIATE TO START 10 TO 13,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, GETTING BIGGER AS THEY GO WEST, ACROSS THAT TRACK. >> ACROSS THAT TRACK ? >> CORRECT. VERY SIMILAR TO AUTUMN RUN FOLLOWING ALONG 663 AND MUCH LARGER LOTS AS YOU GET BACKING UP TO THE -- OLD COUNTY LOCKS. THAT WAS APPROPRIATE TRANSITION USE TRACK AS WELL. >> IS THAT CLEAR? OTHER TOPICS ? >> I WANTED TO REALLY INSINUATE [02:00:07] WHAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE HAVE 110,000 MAXIMUM PROPERTY , THAT IS THE SAME THE OLD COTTON PLANT WAS, BUT FOR THE PREVIOUS FIVE OR SIX YEARS. I WANTED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET MY MIND AROUND, I APOLOGIZE , I THINK I MISSED HALF OF THE WORKSHOP ON MULTI FAMILY. WHAT ALL HAVE WE PULLED OUT OF THE MULTI FAMILY DEFINITION? WAS IT ONLY ASSISTED LIVING OR WHERE THEIR OTHER SUBJECTS WE PULLED OUT OF THAT DEFINITION? >> WE HAVE ASSISTED LIVING IS PULLED OUT AND MIXED-USE . >> OKAY, OKAY. AND DID WE REALLY CHANGE , BEFORE WE WERE UNDER 10% RURAL LINE, IS THAT RULE THE SAME , PERCENTAGES AFFECTED A LITTLE BIT FROM THE CHANGING OF DEFINITION LINES? IT HAS DEFINITELY BEEN RAISED, OR VIRTUALLY THE SAME WAY OF LOOKING AT IT? >> >> IN OTHER WORDS, 18% NOW ? >> YES. >> I'M THINKING 16 SOMETHING. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY WITHOUT GETTING TOO TECHNICAL. IN OTHER WORDS, LOOKING TO GET BACK TO EQUILIBRIUM. >> OKAY. >> MY REMEMBRANCE FROM THAT IS, YOU ADD ALL FOUR CLASSIFICATIONS TOGETHER, IT WOULD ADD UP TO 12% BUT 2% OF THAT IS THE ASSISTED LIVING. INSIDE THE 10% CODIFIED , IT WAS 3% TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY, 4% VERTICAL MIXED USE, AND THEN 3% ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY , IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. WHAT THAT EFFECTIVELY DOES, I THINK WE WERE AT NINE -ISH PERCENT OF TRUE MULTI FAMILY SO 6% OVER THE THRESHOLD. THE OTHER ONES WERE NOT QUITE THERE AND THE ASSISTED LIVING WITH WELL BELOW. IT KEEPS THE SPIRIT OF THE 10% OVERALL, IT JUST DEFINES IT A LITTLE BETTER . >> I'M FINE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THEY WERE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WE MIGHT DROP PERCENTILE . I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME FORMAT OF REFERENCE OF THAT. I'M ONE OF THOSE THAT USES THAT PERCENTILE QUITE A BIT. WHEN THINGS GET OUT OF WHACK. >> WE HAD THAT EXCEL TOOL THAT STAFF CAN PRESENT. CURRENT LOOK AT SANDAL TWO, 12.2, 8.32, THE RATIO IS DOWN TO 3 WE WON'T REACH THAT EQUILIBRIUM FOR A WHILE ON MULTI FAMILY. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ? ARE WE READY , ARE THOSE CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT NOTED? >> YES, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE UPDATE THIS ON THE MAP, WE WILL UPDATE THE TABLES THAT REFLECT THAT INFORMATION. >> COUNCIL, THERE VERY FEW THINGS I LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS ON, THE GUIDING DOCUMENT IS ONE OF THEM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THEM NOW. >> MOVED TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGES . >> SECOND. >> AREA EXPAND THE COUNTRY MODULE OVER TO THE THOMAS TRAIL SUBDIVISION. AND C 3 TO BUFFER MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE HIGHWAY. >> THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN THE PRESENTATION. YOU WANT US TO PICK ? >> GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. >> THAT SMALL RAMP >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE CHANGES. >> CAN I CLARIFY WHAT HE SAID VERSUS WHAT YOU SAID? ALL THE WAY TO THE THOMAS TRAIL SUBDIVISION YOU SET ALL THE WAY WITH THE COUNTRY MODULE? >> THAT IS THE MOTION. IS THE MOTION CLEAR? I WILL ASK IF STAFF IS CLEAR . ROSS, YOUR [02:05:03] SECOND STANCE. WE HAVE A MOTION . SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WEAVER. EVERYBODY IS GOOD? LET'S VOTE. IT PASSES 7-0. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AREA THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU AREA >> AND STAFF AS WELL. >> >> WE CAN HAVE ELECTRONIC VERSION PROBABLY NEXT WEEK. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE RUN IT BY STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE DID [2024-399] EVERYTHING. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. MOVING ON TO 2024-399, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ADDENDUM WITH EMERGICON LLC WITH HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE UPGRADES RELATED TO PATIENT DOCUMENTATION AND BILLING, AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY DOCUMENTS. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS ADDENDUM TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITH EMERGICON THAT PROVIDES BUILDING SERVICES FOR THE CITY . SITTING AT ABOUT 3 1/2 YEAR MARK WITH THEM CURRENTLY , WITH THE CONTRACT THEY ARE PRESENTLY PROVIDING US WITH HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE . THE SOFTWARE HAS BECOME OUTDATED AND THE SOFTWARE WE ARE CURRENTLY USING THEY ARE REFUSING TO BRING IT UP TO CODE TO MEET STATE SPECS AND ALSO SOME OF THE FEDERAL. THIS FUND IS PAID OUT , ALL THE CONTEXT OF PAID OUT OF REVENUE GENERATED THROUGH THE -- SO THERE IS NO DIRECT PAYMENTS OUT OF IT, NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN YOUR BUDGET , SO TO SPEAK . THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE AT WITH IT . LIKE I SAID, THE BIGGEST PART IS THE FACT WITH CURRENT EMS PROGRAM, THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE STATE GUIDELINES AND SOME OF THE NEW FEDERAL ONES. >> OKAY. COUNCIL. >> JUST ASSUMING THAT STATE REQUIREMENTS CAME OUT WITH THIS AND THERE IS NO FINANCIAL HELP TO GET ENTITIES ADDED TO -- >> ABSOLUTELY. PART OF THE SWITCH WILL ALSO, PRESENTLY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REPORTING PORTION, THE SCHEDULING PROGRAM, EMS, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN THROUGH SEPARATE COMPANIES, THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES ARE DOING THIS, IMAGE TRAN , WE WILL MOVE THROUGH WITH THE CONTRACT, WILL PROVIDE ALL OF IT IS ONE SOFTWARE SO WE CAN LOG IN AND GET ALL THREE ASPECTS OF PROGRAMS WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO LOOK AT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, IT IS THE WAY STATE DOES EVERYTHING, CORRECT? >> RIGHT. GO AHEAD, ROSS. >> READING IT THE WAY IT WAS TAG LINES HERE, WE FOUND THE PRODUCT TO BE MORE INTUITIVE FOR OUR NEEDS AND LESS MONEY FOR THE ESSO PLATFORM. ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU WANT US TO APPROVE BETTER PRODUCT FOR LESS MONEY . >> IT IS, ULTIMATELY ON THE FIRE END, IT WILL COME OUT CHEAPER. WE ARE HOPING FROM REVENUE STANDPOINT, THIS IS ALSO, THEY HAVE A LOT MORE CURRENTS UTILIZING THE IMAGE PRODUCT THAN THE HEALTH EMS THAT WE RAN INTO PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES, BILLING , MILEAGE, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. SO WE WILL BELIEVE WE WILL SEE UPTICK IN COLLECTIONS WITH THIS, IS IT GOING TO BE 1%, 2%? IT IS HONESTLY HARD TO TELL. IT WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE A MORE STREAMLINED APPROACH PULLING BACK DATA FROM THE HOSPITAL ALSO, THERE'S INTERFACE BUILT IN WITH THAT, METHODIST USES IMAGE TRAN FOR IMAGING AND EVERY THING ELSE, THIS ALLOWS US TO TALK DIRECTLY TO THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, TO GET RESULTS BACK AND EVERYTHING ELSE. >> OKAY. ENTERTAIN A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND . >> MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN MOORMAN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER, STARTED BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS. PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES, 7-0 . [2024-400] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OPENING 2024-400, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH WATSON CONSOLES FORT MEADE CENTER DISPATCH CONSULS IN THE AMOUNT OF $320,000 908 $.40 FOR THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THIS IS IN [02:10:02] THE BUDGET , PUBLIC SAFETY, GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. >> OUT OF THE BOND MONEY . >> YES, SIR . >> ENTERTAIN A MOTION . >> SECOND . >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THE PRESENTATION . >> MY LEGITIMATE QUESTION IS, THIS IS FOR THE ACTUAL 911 DISPATCH, THEIR SHIFTS ARE HOW LONG? >> CHIEF, SHIFTS FOR DISPATCH? >> AT LEAST 12 . >> DO THESE STATIONS ALLOW FOR STAND UP? >> YES. >> WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE SCHEMATICS, IT WAS HARD TO SEE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ELEVATE AND STAND AND NOT HAVE TO SIT FOR 12 HOURS. >> YOU CAN SEE THE RED DOT, CAN YOU SEE THE RED DOT? >> YES. >> THAT WHOLE DESK DOES RAISE . >> PERFECT . I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CRUEL AND UNUSUAL TO MAKE THEM SIT DOWN. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF CUSTOMIZING THE DESIGNS, KEEP THEM AS COMFORTABLE AS POSSIBLE. >> MOTION. >> SECOND . >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. SECONDED BY HANSELMAN MOORMAN. [2024-401] PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0. OPENING ITEM 2024-401, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON IMPACT THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH KNOX STREET PARTNERS NUMBER 28 FOR IMPROVEMENT ALONG U.S. HIGHWAY 287 FROM PRESIDENTIAL PARKWAY TO WALNUT GROVE ROAD. >> THIS IS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT STEMS FROM RIDGEWATER DEVELOPMENT THAT BEGAN THREE YEARS AGO. TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS CAME IN, SUGGESTED PUTTING IT TRAFFIC LIGHT AT PRESENT APARTMENT AND 287 TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC , NOBODY THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, THEY AGREED TO PUT IN THE SERVICE ROAD AND WE KNOW THAT SOME DECADE TXDOT WILL PUT IN ADDITIONAL SERVICE ROADS BUT BRIDGEWATER, TO GET TRAFFIC OUT OF HERE AND TO THE TEXAS TURNAROUND AND ALSO ON THE 287 CREATED THIS SERVICE ROAD UP TO WRITE ABOUT THAT POINT TO THIS POINT IT IS FREEMAN LANE, THE NEW ROAD THAT IS BEEN BUILT. FOR THAT, I THINK THE AMOUNT WAS $987,000 , 987, $607 AND THAT IS LESS THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT IN . THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS TO REIMBURSE QUARTERLY ON THE IMPACT FEES THAT THEY PAY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING ON BEHIND THE WHATABURGER ON PRESIDENTIAL PARKWAY RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, THERE QUARTERLY PAYMENTS AND TODAY , THEY HAVE PAID A PROXIMALLY $960,000 SO THEY COULD REQUEST THAT WITH ONE FELL SWOOP AND MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE, THE MAXIMUM IS $987,000 . WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS AGREEMENT >> THE REIMBURSEMENT COMES OUT OF THE IMPACT FUND? >> DIRECTLY. >> THIS IS AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH BRIDGEWATER PREVIOUSLY? >> YES. THAT IS SERVICE AREA 3, IF ANYBODY CARES. $1.8 MILLION IN THERE RIGHT NOW . >> MOTION. >> MOTION. >> SECOND . >> MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HAMMONDS. PLEASE [2024-402] VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0. WHERE ARE WE , 2024-402, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AGREEMENT WITH SHI FOR RAPID7 MANAGE THREAT COMPLETE ADVANCE SUBSCRIPTION FOR $103,065 +10% CONTINGENCY FOR $10,306 FOR A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $113,371. >> CONTRACT FOR 24/7 SECURITY OPERATION SYSTEM THAT LOCKS AND ASSISTANCE WITH BREACHES , CONTAINMENT, THAT SORT OF THING FOR BASICALLY THE ENTIRE CITY, ALLOW THOSE RESOURCES THAT I'M CURRENTLY DOING AND ALSO AUGMENT MY ABILITY -- SO YEAH. FRAME QUESTIONS. >> THIS IS A NEW THING WE'RE ADDING SUBSCRIPTION-BASED YEARLY COST, IN THE BUDGET FOR IT? >> YES, BUDGET 119,000 , I DON'T EXPECT CONTINGENCY BUT BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SYSTEMS WE HAVE WITH NEW USERS , NEW EMPLOYEES AND WHATNOT, WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THE TIME OF BUDGETING SO SOME CONTINGENCY FOR THAT BUT WE SHOULD BE UNDER BUDGET . >> WAYNE, SERIOUSLY ? >> THESE GUYS BACK HERE, LESS MONEY, MORE INTUITIVE AND BETTER OFF, THAT MIGHT HELP IN THE FUTURE? >> ALLEN. >> QUESTION SPECIFIC TO THE [02:15:03] FUNCTIONALITY OF IT, WOULD IT BE OKAY WHEN WE BREAK FOR EXECUTIVE , MORE SPECIFICS? >> WE DON'T HAVE EXECUTIVE THIS EVENING, WE CAN DISCUSS IF YOU HAVE STRICTLY SECURITY THINGS, WE CAN GO TO EXECUTIVE IF YOU LIKE, IF IT IS REGARDING LEGAL. >> >> SECURITY DEVICES. >> CORRECT . QUESTIONS OUT HERE COMPROMISING THE INTEGRITY, WE CAN GO BACK -- >> I MAKE A MOTION ASKING OFF-LINE? >> PERFECT . >> I'M CURIOUS ON SOME OF THE FUNCTIONALITY THAT I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE . >> SECOND . >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORMAN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER RODGERS. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0. COUNCIL, WE HAVE NO EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING SO WE ARE GOING TO * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.