Feb 11, 2025 City Council

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>>> GOOD EVENING. IT IS 6:00 P.M., TUESDAY FEBRUARY 11, 2025.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT SO I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

WE BEGIN TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGES TO BE LED BY COUNCILMEMBER RODGERS.

>> JOIN ME AS WE PRAY. LORD WE ARE BLESSED TO BE HERE TONIGHT IN THE WONDERFUL CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN THE WE ALL CALL HOME.

FOR OUR COUNSEL TO GET TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENCE WITH MANY VIEWS AND WE ASK, LORD, THAT YOU GRANT US THE WISDOM TO BE ABLE TO LEAD IN A WAY THAT REPRESENTS ALL. WE ASK MORE THAT YOU BLESS OUR FIRST DEFENDERS AS FAR AS POLICE, FIRE AND ALL THOSE, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR OUR STAFF AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR EVERYTHING MIDLOTHIAN'S HAVE DONE. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AND HAVE OPEN MINDS TO LISTEN WELL. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS US THROUGHOUT THIS WEEK AND HOPE TO ALWAYS WALKING AWAY -- IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER

GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> WE BEGIN THIS EVENING WITH

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THIS YEAR IN THE COMMUNITY? >> I DO. I WAS BLESSED TO FIND WHEN I ATTENDED THE NIGHT OF LOVE WHICH WAS A GREAT EVENT THAT RAISED OVER 100 THOUSAND DOLLARS THIS YEAR FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY CHILDREN'S -- I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT AND OF COURSE A VERY BLESSED NIGHT, I SAW A LOT OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE BUT ONE OF THE BIGGER BLESSINGS FOR MYSELF WAS WHEN I -- OUR VERY OWN CHIEF SMITH AND WE TALKED FOR A MOMENT AND ANOTHER ONE OF OUR AUTHORS, NICK, WAS THERE ALSO HELPING THE LOCAL CHURCH YOUTH. IT WAS JUST GREAT TO SEE OUR LEADERSHIP IN OUR CITY TAKING PART IN A NONPROFIT ACTIVITY AND BEING PART OF -- BEING THERE AS AN EXTRA ACTIVITY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM PUBLICLY FOR WHAT

THEY ARE DOING. >> ALLEN?

>> YEAH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, SOMETHING I WANTED TO MENTION THAT HAPPENED REAL ORGANICALLY IS A VOLUNTEER COACH WITH THE MIDLOTHIAN BASKETBALL LEAGUE, COACH BRIAN, LOCAL RESIDENT, HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS BUT THIS YEAR IT WAS PROBABLY THE LARGEST ONE. HIS TEAM GOT TOGETHER AND THEY HAD AT ONE OF THEIR PRACTICES THEY CALLED IT A SHOOT-ATHON AND THIS YEAR THEY GOT MULTIPLE TEAMS INVOLVED AND THEY ACTUALLY RAISED COMMITMENTS FROM PARENTS AND OTHER FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN THE COMMUNITY TO PAY DOLLARS FOR EVERY FREE THROW IN THAT SHOOT-ATHON TO GET AND THEY DONATED ALL THOSE FUNDS TO ELLIS COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY COOL JUST WHEN THERE'S COMMUNITY MEMBERS INVOLVED IN ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE BASKETBALL LEAGUE OR OTHERS THAT TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND RAISE SOME MONEY, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY COOL, THANK YOU TO COACH AND ALL THE OTHER VOLUNTEERS THAT JUMPED IN AND WERE PART OF THAT.

>> LAST NIGHT WAS OUR VIP APPRECIATION DINNER. WE GOT TO HONOR ALL OF OUR BOARD AND COMMISSIONS, VOLUNTEERS FOR THEIR SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY, A FANTASTIC DINNER AND A GOOD EVENING AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE SELFLESS SERVICE OF THE VOLUNTEERS BASE SERVES THE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF MIDLOTHIAN SO SHOUT OUT TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AND THE ENTIRE PLANNING TEAM THAT PUT THAT EVENT TOGETHER. IT WAS

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WAYNE? >> I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MY FIRST CITY COUNCIL AND LEADERSHIP STAFF LAST WEEK AND I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED, WANTED TO SHOUT OUT ALL OF OUR QUALITY STAFF THAT WE DO HAVE HERE GETTING TO SEE ALL OF THE INTERACTIONS IN THE ROOM AND HAVING THE FIRST EXPERIENCE INDIVIDUALLY BUT JUST ABLE TO SEE THE INTERACTION QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY OF STAFF AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

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>> WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON AND GO TO 2025 038, CITIZENS CAN BE HEARD, CITY COUNCIL INVITE CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN FORM AND PRESENT IT TO THE SECRETARY. SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MEETINGS ACT.

>> MICHAEL GREESON. >> IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE, THERE'S A PODIUM WITH A MICROPHONE IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> 4651 DIAMOND CREEK. WE WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY LIMITS, I GUESS WE ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS. THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES GOING ON. WE'VE LIVED HERE, WE MOVED IN HERE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, EIGHT YEARS AGO. I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE BUT WE FOUND A PLACE FOR OUR FAMILY BACK IN 2017. WE WERE LOOKING EVERYWHERE, IT HAD A HOUSE, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU COULD LOOK FOR. FOR A SIXTH GRADER AND SHE IS GRADUATED THIS YEAR, MY DAUGHTER. THE CITY HAS BEEN ALLOWING THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO COME IN AND FLOAT US OUT. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHICH DEVELOPMENTS BUT THE DEVELOPMENT BEHIND US THAT FLITTED US OUT SO WE SPENT $250,000 ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO REBUILDING OUR HOME, NO INSURANCE, NOTHING PAID FOR IT. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND I THINK YOU ARE ACTUALLY ON THESE EMAILS. WE KEEP GETTING PUSHED OFF AND PUSHED OFF BY THE ENGINEERS AND I DIDN'T READ THIS BUT WHAT'S GOING ON IS THE, WE KIND OF LIVING LIKE A GOALIE. TWO HOUSES HERE, NOTHING BEHIND US AND WE NEVER KNEW IT. IT'S CALLED DIAMOND CREEK. IT'S BEEN A DRY CREEK FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. WELL IT NOW HAS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY SIX TO EIGHT FOOT BY THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY ABOUT FIVE FOOT DEEP TRENCH JUST TO KEEP THE WATER OUT OF OUR HOUSE. WE SPENT ALL THIS MONEY AND GOT RID OF THE GRAVEL AND FIXED ALL THIS STUFF UP AND REALLY HAD A HUGE RAIN. THERE'S NO FLOODING -- PARDON ME I'M NOT -- MY VOICE IS SICK. THE BIGGEST THING IS, AND THE CITY IS NOT UNDERSTANDING. ON THE LEFT SIDE OF US THERE WAS A ONE ACRE LOT THAT OUR NEIGHBOR SOLD, WE ASK THE CITY ENGINEERS AND EVERYBODY, DON'T LET THEM BUILD HERE WITHOUT FIXING THE DRAINAGE. WHICH IS KIND OF A, THIS HOUSE IS HERE AND THIS HOUSE ANGLES OFF THIS WAY AND THEN OUR HOUSES DOWN HERE. WELL, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS IT ALREADY AT THREE MINUTES? WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THEY ALLOWED THIS TO BE BUILT, THIS GUY HIS FLOOR IS LEVEL WITH THE TOP OF OUR HOUSE SO NOW EVERY TIME IT RAINS OUR HOUSE WASHES OUT AND FLOODS. ENGINEERS HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. NOBODY'S DONE ANYTHING, WE KEEP PERMITTING AND PERMITTING AND I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME. I'M SORRY. SO THERE'S NO WAY TO FIX THAT. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FLOOD EVERY TIME IT RAINS, THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, SOMEBODY HERE

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>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. YES, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE SIGN UP

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TO SPEAK? >> NO.

>> WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 2025 039.

ALL MATTERS LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND ONE MOTION WITHOUT DISCUSSION HOWEVER IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED THE ITEM CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ASSIGNED SEPARATELY.

COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM B, E, F, AND LITURGY.

>> DOES THAT CAPTURE EVERYBODY? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEMS LETTER BE, LETTER E, F, AND G. PLEASE VOTE. THE ITEM PASSES 7-0. WITH THAT WE WILL

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>> MY ONLY QUESTION IS ONE OF CLARIFICATION ON, THIS IS JUST PASSING A RESOLUTION TO TELL THE STATE WE WILL BE COMING BACK FOR

THE PD APPROVAL. >> YES, SIR AND THEY WILL ALSO BE COMING BACK FOR THE APPROVAL AS WELL SO IN THE MM D COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL AS WELL TALKS ABOUT THIS IN SECTION 2 IT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE CONSTITUTION SO THIS GIVES THE LEGISLATION THE ABILITY TO CREATE, COMPLETE THE CREATION AND ALSO THE GUTS OF THE DEAL

FINANCING PLAN, SERVICE PLAN. >> MM D FINANCING PLAN? OR

BEFORE THE FINANCING PLAN? >> RIGHT NOW IT IS, YES.

>> OKAY. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS

ON ITEM B? >> STILL ABOUT SIX WEEKS AWAY.

FIGURE IT OUT IN BETWEEN NOW. >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED BY -- SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CHEF FIELD -- SHUFFIELD . ITEM B

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ELECTION. QUESTIONS? >> MY IS MORE TECHNICAL. AS WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED FROM THE ELECTIONS OFFICE YET --

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>> VOTING VOTE CENTERS EXHIBIT A AS WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED AND REPLACING SECTION 6, PART OF THE PARAGRAPH SAYS AS LISTED, DETERMINED BY THE

>> COULD YOU REPEAT THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS? FIVE AND SIX?

>> YEAH, SO RECEIVED THAT DOCUMENT. SO WE ARE STRIKING THAT SENTENCE AND IN SECTION 6 THERE'S A REFERENCE TO THE MULTIPLE VOTING CENTER LOCATIONS ON ELECTION DAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT LIST EITHER, DETERMINED BY THE ELECTIONS OFFICE.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THOSE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ISSUE? ENTERTAIN A MOTION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATIONS.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THE ITEM PASSES 7-0. WE WILL MOVE ON

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CLERK? >> IS CHRIS -- IS THIS ITEM --

>> YES, SIR. >> JUST A VERIFICATION QUESTION, THE BOAT TO DEMOLISH DIDN'T HAPPEN.

>> YES, SIR. IT IS ON MAY 28TH AND WE -- COUNCIL.

>> AND IS THIS JUST FOR CITY HALL? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

>> THIS IS JUST FOR CITY HALL, YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION AT THE LAST MEETING -- ITEM SO SATURDAY THERE WILL BE AN AUCTION FOR THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM?

>> WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME NETWORK ITEMS OUT OF THERE, A CRITICAL LINK FOR OUR NETWORK AND IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH, THE NETWORK WILL BE DONE AND AFTER THAT DEMOLITION AND IT WILL COME IN AND EIGHT TO 10 WORKING DAYS SO WE'RE HOPING BY

THE FIRST OF APRIL IT WILL BE. >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. MOTION

ON ITEM F? >> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMONDS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN

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>> I WAS CURIOUS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

>> IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO THIS. IT SHOULD BE VERY SIMILAR. VERY

SIMILAR. >> INTO THE EXPENDITURES, WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE IN THE FUTURE. DO WE DO ANY KIND OF INAUDIBLE ] WITH OUR HOTELS IN THE LOCAL AREA TO SAY --

INAUDIBLE ] >> IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT THEY PROVE SOMEBODY -- IT IS ABOUT ATTRACTING ATTENTION. BUT THERE'S NO HARD REQUIREMENT. SOMEBODY WENT FROM THE EVENT --

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>> I FULLY RESPECT THAT. AS WE MAKE DECISIONS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO -- IN THIS SCENARIO BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION BUT TO SAY THAT NORMAL OCCUPANCY RATES ARE -- AT AN EVENT WHERE WE WERE ANTICIPATING -- DID THEY NOTICE? THAT KIND OF INFORMATION EVEN ANECDOTALLY FROM OUR PARTNERS WOULD ALLOW US TO MAKE OTHER DECISIONS.

>> WE COULD CERTAINLY -- >> WE ALSO HAVE THE NEW AI TOOL THAT WILL BE A VERY GOOD TOOL TO SEE WHERE THEY GO FROM HERE. SO,

YEAH, THAT WILL BE A TOOL. >> I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT IF WE CAN HAVE THAT, IT'S A WORKSHOP, REPORT BACK TO COUNSEL. AND WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. FROM THE

INVESTMENT. >> ARE YOU ASKING SPECIFICALLY THE CONTACTS OWNS ONLY? OR YOU WANT ALL?

>> THE HOT TAGS TO ME IS, THE THINGS THAT IT'S ALLOWED TO BE TO PUT HEADS IN BEDS. COMMUNITY AND SO I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY ARE WE LEADING IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE

LETTER OF THAT? >> IS IT PLACER AI?

>> I'M NOT SURE BUT PLACER. >> PLACER.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW. >> MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS GOING TO BE A AI TYPE TRACKING TOOL.

>> YES, SIR. >> WE HAD ALL THESE LARGER ACT COMMITTEES AS FAR AS EVENTS, THAT WHAT AMOUNT GOING

INAUDIBLE ] >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE

TALKING ABOUT. >> STATED TOPIC TONIGHT BUT I WANT TO GIVE CLERK THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK HIS QUESTION.

>> WHAT IS THE BALANCE OF THE HOT TAX?

>> 7756? >> IS THAT AFTER WE APPROVED HOT TAX? BEFORE WE APPROVED IT? THE THEATER. SO THE THEATER AMOUNT IS COMING OUT OF THAT AS WELL. AND AS THE HOTEL, AND THE HOT

TAX? THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. >> MOTION?

>> I'LL TAKE A MOTION. >> RESENTED WITH THE DIRECTION INQUIRED TO THE HOTEL POTENTIAL RESULTS

>> OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE? SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER.

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403 WEST MAIN STREET. >> GOOD EVENING. HERE WE GO AGAIN. THIS IS THE ONE, CORRECT? OH. OKAY. SO, WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH I.V. PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIOS SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT 57 SO THEY HAVE A VERY

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THE SEVEN FOOT ALLIE SIX FOOT TO THE NORTH, THEY OWN THE PROPERTY SO THEY ARE OKAY WITH THEMSELVES TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST THAT ALLIE THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE ASSEMBLY, NEIGHBOR BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A 20 FOOT ALLIE, IT'S A STARTING POINT AND AS A COMPARISON, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OR AID DISTRICT THOSE WOULD HAVE ZERO TO FIVE SETBACKS SO SIX AND SEVEN WE ARE KIND OF IN THE REALM OF THE BALLPARK ON THE SCALE AS IT WERE, SO AGAIN, CURRENTLY 10 FEET BECAUSE OF COMMERCIAL REZONING, ASKING FOR SIX AND SEVEN IF YOU GO NOT TOO FAR AWAY YOU ARE LOOKING AT 05. SO WE ALSO SENT OUT OUR PARK METER NOTICES, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM ANYBODY. THE APPLICANT WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT BUT OF COURSE WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF HIS OWN REQUEST, APPROVAL 6-0. HAPPY TO TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, SECONDED BY WICKLIFFE.

PLEASE VOTE. THE ITEM CLOSES 7-0, COUNSEL, QUESTIONS? WOULD

YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? >> SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH THE SETBACK ADJUSTMENTS WE ARE CHANGING THE SITE SETBACK FROM 10 FEET TO SEVEN FEET ON THE WEST SIDE? NOT ALSO APPLIED TO THE EASTSIDE? AND FOR THE YARD OBVIOUSLY TO THE NORTH?

>> SORRY, MIKE? >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE, AND I MIXED FOR WORDS IN OUR BUILDING STANDARDS, COVERAGE, I CAN'T REMEMBER. WHERE DOES THIS FALL? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? WE HAVE A MAXIMUM HARD SURFACE --

>> I DID NOT CALCULATE THAT. I APOLOGIZE. THE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT ADDITION DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS BEING COMPARED TO OTHER AREAS NEARBY THEY ARE GETTING TO NINE, 100%.

>> THAT'S MY QUESTION IS SINGLE-FAMILY SO WE ENCOURAGE MORE OF THIS STREET EXPANSION SURFACE, DO WE START GETTING WATER INTRUSION SINGLE-FAMILY BEFORE. NOT A GOT YOU QUESTION I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

>> MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE? >> NOT FOR YOU VPD'S. IT'S PROBABLY 80. THE BUILDING BEHIND IT IS COMMERCIAL.

>> THAT'S THE ONE WE JUST CHANGED.

>> I WAS GOING TO KIND OF ECHO THAT. BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT NATURE OF HISTORIC SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTIES WORKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, MORE OR LESS THE GENESIS OF THAT WAS TO ALLOW FOR

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WHEN IT FIRST AROSE. >> IT'S PRETTY HIGH.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS CASE BEFORE WE

GO TO A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND BY WEAVER. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

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4521 NORTH U.S. HIGHWAY 67. >> MAYOR? THE AMENDMENT IS TO ALLOW PLASTICS AND REPRIMANDING MANUFACTURING RESTRICTED TO LOT ONE BLOCK ONE WHICH WAS THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE ON THE SIDE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS A CORPORATE MODULE WHICH ENCOURAGES BUSINESSES IN THE TAX SPACE AND ADJACENT USES ARE PRIMARILY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL -- THE FIRST PHASE IS TO VIEW FOR A PORTION OF THE BUILDING, THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND TO THE ENTIRE WAREHOUSE. THE USE -- IT USES DOMESTIC WATER TO TAKE PRE-MANUFACTURED PELLETS AND EXPAND THEM AND THEN SHAPED THEM INTO ANOTHER PRODUCT. THE MACHINERY THAT THEY USE DOES NOT PRODUCE BYPRODUCTS SUCH AS ODOR AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO ADDRESS RAW MATERIAL AND AIR-QUALITY. THERE WERE 68 LETTERS MAILED THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE CORRESPONDENCE AT JANUARY 21ST MEETING IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. SO, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF

STAFF? >> DID ANYBODY SIGN-UP TO SPEAK? NO SPEAKERS I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM CLOSES 7-0. QUESTIONS FOR MARY?

>> SO, PENDING THE PD TONIGHT TO ALLOW PLASTICS RUBBER MANUFACTURING AND WE ARE ALSO APPROVING THE ENTIRE BUILDING DEFINITELY TAKING APART THE BUILDING BUT --

>> THAT IS A REQUEST. >> WHERE I AM CONCERNED IS THAT YOU ARE -- I HAVE NO PROBLEM THAT IS A VERY -- ESPECIALLY ON THE SPACE THEY WILL, HOWEVER I HAVE CONCERNS I'VE READ IN THE DRAFT DOCUMENT SO A USER OR ANOTHER USER COULD IN THE THREE-YEAR TIMEFRAME BEFORE THEY PULL, COULD COME IN AND -- THAT BUILDING AND THIS COUNSEL WOULD NOT HAVE THE CURRENT USER THAT'S ASKING IT LIMITED TO THE SPACE AND IF THEY ARE A CORPORATE CITIZEN IN THE FUTURE WOULD DENY THEM THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING IF

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POTENTIALITY SIDE. >> CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT? ROSS? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT GOES?

>> THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT -- ANY TYPE OF PLASTICS COULD OCCUPY THE REMAINDER ON THE WAY IT'S BEING -- ANOTHER COMPANY WHO DOES SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY OR AS FRIENDLY TO THE SURROUNDING

WITH THEIR PROCESS. >> I HAVE A STATEMENT AND SOME QUESTIONS. REMEMBER WHEN WE APPROVED THIS, ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THE WAREHOUSE WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP MANUFACTURING OUT OF THAT AREA, WAS THAT JUST ME? I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE I REMEMBER THAT WRONG BUT I AM CURIOUS ON SECTION 2, I READ THROUGH ABCD E ON THE USAGE MANUFACTURING. IT DOES SAY NO ODORS BUT WHO IS POLICING THE ODORS? IS IT THE CITY? OR BOTH?

>> BOTH? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE THE CITY.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW WITH AIR-QUALITY.

>> USED TO THE POINT WHERE -- AND THAT -- BUT THIS ORDINANCE

INAUDIBLE ] >> I GUESS IF THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF CONFLICT TO THE ORDINANCE THEY LOSE -- THAT'S THE HAMMER? OKAY. AND SO I'M SURE YOU'VE MET WITH THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF

HOUSES RIGHT THERE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. I DIDN'T RING THE VIDEO. IT DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY KIND OF WELDING OR ANY TYPE OF THAT TYPE OF MACHINERY IF YOU LOOK AT IT IT EXPANDS PELLETS USING STEAM AND CUTS THEM AND RESHAPES THEM. SO, THAT IS VERY SIMPLIFIED DESCRIPTION OF IT BUT HERE IF YOU WANT MORE DETAIL.

>> SURE, IF THEY DON'T MIND EXPLAINING.

>> HI. WE ARE THE OWNER OF THESE BUILDINGS. SO, THEY ARE MANUFACTURING SO THE PELLETS WERE REFERRING TO A SYSTEM AND THEY TRULY ARE KIND OF COMING IN AS PELLETS AND STEAM AND MIXED STEAM THEY DON'T ABSORB GETS RECAPTURED AND RECYCLED THROUGH THIS SYSTEM. SO IT'S NOT 100% EFFICIENT BUT I THINK IT'S 90% EFFICIENT FROM A RECYCLING STANDPOINT SO WE ARE REALLY JUST LOOKING AT ABSORPTION AND EXPANSION AND THEN RECYCLING THE WATER, MINIMAL STEAM BUT I THINK THAT'S EVEN INSIDE THE BUILDING

SO NOT MAJOR EXHAUSTING OR -- >> ALL THE EXHAUST AND THE

BUILDING -- >> THERE ARE STILL MACHINES THAT, YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE AN AIR CONDITIONING UNIT OR SOMETHING ON SOME LEVEL, EXHAUST, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT BUT THERE'S NOT SOME SORT OF CHEMICAL REACTION TO OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU KNOW IS PRODUCING SOME SORT OF CHEMICAL RESULTING FROM THIS.

IT'S JUST ABSORBING AND EXPANDING IS HOW THEY DESCRIBED

IT TO US. SO. >> THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >> WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SHOEHORN ANYONE INTO THE EXTENT WE COULD TIE IT ONLY TO THIS USER THAT MIGHT BE EVEN BETTER. OUR ONLY THOUGHT WAS IN THE CASE WHERE THEY HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS HERE, EXPANDED OPERATION JUST AVOIDS A FURTHER ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS BUT IF YOU WANT TO, THAT'S FINE. OUR KEY FOCUS IS TO GET THIS SPACE. WE DO. WE

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>> ARE WE ABLE TO LIMIT IT? THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

] >> SO WE CAN DO IT? THANK YOU.

>> FOR NOT ONLY THIS BUT FUTURE REFERENCE, WE RUN INTO THIS BEFORE WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO LIMIT THE USAGE AND IT IS PROBLEMATIC -- TRANSFER PROPERTY. IS THERE NOT ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO PURSUE? SOME SORT OF A BETTER PLANNING SCENARIO AS

FAR AS AN OVERLAY? >> THERE'S NOT AN OVERLAY BUT FOR SU PEAS FOR INDUSTRIAL USES, SOME TOOLS YOU CAN USE, YOU CAN REQUEST AN OPERATIONAL PLAN, THEY DETAIL OUT THE USES AND GIVE MORE INFORMATION LIKE HOURS OF OPERATION SO IT'S, THAT HAS NOT BEEN IN THE CITY UNTIL NOW BUT I'VE WORKED IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AN OPERATIONAL PLAN.

>> WHERE WE TYPICALLY TAKE THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE PD? PROPORTIONALITY WHERE IT ALLOWS FOR THAT. I MYSELF HAVE INAUDIBLE ] I WOULD RATHER SEE IT LIMITED TO THAT USER AND I UNDERSTAND THE USERS -- ALMOST LIKE AN INTERIOR BUILDING FORMAT PLANNING SCENARIO THAT ALLOWS IT TO EXPAND IN THE FILE TO THEM,

>> WE WILL KEEP GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> ONE LAST QUESTION. THE BASE

ZONING FOR THE PD DO WE ALLOW? >> WE DO. IT'S THE PRODUCT, THE PLASTICS AND MANUFACTURING THAT DOES REQUIRE. THE MANUFACTURING ITSELF IS NOT. IT'S JUST PRODUCT REQUIREMENTS?

>> RIGHT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT --

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO SEE ON FILM -- IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHERE YOU SEE EXTERIOR

COMPONENT, INTERIOR. >> ALLEN, YOUR MOTION?

>> SO, THE MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS TO APPROVE WITH THE SU P ON THE BUILDING BUT LIMIT IT TO THE USER. CORRECT.

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>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE LIMITING THE SU P. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORMAN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS. PLEASE VOTE. THE ITEM PASSES 6-1. THANK YOU, MARY. MOVING ON TO OUR

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM HERE THIS EVENING TO HAVE Y'ALL CONSIDER A LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR A YOUTH SPORTS LLC TO PLACE THE SCOREBOARDS AT THE SPORTS PARK AND AT MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY PARK. THIS IS A GROUP THAT HAS THESE SCOREBOARDS AROUND THE CITY OF DUNCAN, CEDAR HILL, THE COLONY WORKING ON THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE AND MANY PLACES IN THE HOUSTON KATIE AREA. IT IS A MUCH MORE STATE-OF-THE-ART -- NOT JUST YOUR TYPICAL LITTLE METAL WITH A LITTLE THING SHOWING THE SCORE, IT IS ACTUALLY ALL A VIDEO SCREEN SO IN BETWEEN INNINGS IT CAN POP UP AND IT CAN DO ADVERTISEMENTS, IT CAN -- THEY CAN DO LIKE WALK UPS OF THE KIDS AND PUT THEIR NAMES UP THERE AND ALL OF THAT. THE DEAL WITH THIS IS THAT THEY COME IN THESE SCOREBOARDS ARE BETWEEN 15 AND $18,000 APIECE. THEY PUT THEM IN, WE SIGN THE 10 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM, THE SCOREBOARDS BECOME OURS. THEY ARE OUR PROPERTY BUT ONCE THEY ADVERTISE ON THIS, ONCE THE SCOREBOARD IS PAID FOR, THROUGH THE ADVERTISING, THE SCOREBOARD IS OURS AND WE GET 20% AT 20 80 SPLIT ON ANY ADVERTISING THAT THEY BRING IN. THE ADVERTISING DOES NOT ALLOW ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, TATTOO SHOPS, INAPPROPRIATE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SOMETHING YOU COULD ADVERTISE AT A SCHOOL AND THAT WOULD BE APPROVED AND THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO REJECT SOMETHING IF WE FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. IT'S -- SO, THE THOUGHT IS TO TAKE OR BRING THESE SCOREBOARDS IN AND MAKE THIS MORE DYNAMIC. IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF BANNERS THAT PEOPLE REQUEST TO PUT ON OUR FENCE LINES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND AT THE SAME POINT, WE GET TO ADVERTISE ON IT FOR FREE FOR CITY EVENTS, PARK EVENTS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHATEVER WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE TO PROMOTE THE CITY AND ANY ITEMS WE HAVE GOING ON. SO, THE PLAN WOULD BE IF YOU APPROVE THIS, WE WOULD TAKE THE SCOREBOARDS FROM MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY PARK AND PUT THEM AT JC PARK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SCOREBOARDS FULLY IN THAT AREA. THE SCOREBOARDS THAT ARE AT THE SPORTS PARK ARE OLD SCOREBOARDS . WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THOSE RIGHT NOW, HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THE PARTS FOR THE LARGE SCOREBOARD ON THE HIGH SCHOOL AGE FIELD, THE BACKFIELD. AND THE SCOREBOARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE THE OLD-STYLE LIGHTS INSIDE WHICH ARE EXPENSIVE AND BURN OUT QUICK AND THOSE SCOREBOARDS ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE CITY OF POLLY VILLE AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE THOSE WERE MY SCOREBOARDS IN THE CITY OF COLLEYVILLE AND WHEN WE REPLACE THEM I SAID PLEASE KEEP THEM AND GIVE THEM TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO DOESN'T HAVE THEM AND THAT SO HAPPENS TO BE MIDLOTHIAN SCOREBOARDS AND PUT OUR STICKER OVER. SO THEY ARE CONSIDERABLY OLD AND WE ARE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT TO KEEP THEM GOING. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. >> CLERK?

>> MY ONLY QUESTION IS I KNOW THE COST IS INCURRED TO BRING ELECTRICAL? BUT I DON'T KNOW 105624, 753, --

>> THAT'S THE SPORTS PARK GENERAL FUND PARK MAINTENANCE.

>> SO YOU ARE TAKING IT OUT OF YOUR PARKS AND MAINTENANCE FUND?

>> SO WE WOULD. TO DO SPORTS PARK, SPORTS PARK IS EXPENSIVE

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FIELDS. >> WOULD THAT BE A SEPARATE

AGENDA ITEM IN THE FUTURE? >> THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS PROBABLY AS IN OUR -- AS WE GO THROUGH

SUPPLEMENTALS AND BUDGET. >> MY LAST QUESTION IS I THOUGHT WE PUT A SCOREBOARD AT MCP. AT MCP?

>> WHEN WE BUILT PHASE TWO, YES, THEY ALL HAVE SCOREBOARDS. AND WE WOULD TAKE THOSE AND MOVE THEM TO JC PARK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SCOREBOARDS ON EVERY FIELD.

>> OKAY. SO THE ONES WE BOUGHT --

>> ABSOLUTELY WE ARE NOT GETTING RID OF NEW SCOREBOARDS, WE ARE REUSING THEM AND THAT WOULD OPEN UP FOR ADDITIONAL TOURNAMENTS OVER AT JC PARK BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ONLY THE LARGER FIELDS HAVE

THEM. >> I GOT A LOT OF LIGHTS ON.

I'M GOING TO GO LEFT. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHERE DID THE I GUESS THE TOPIC OF THE SCOREBOARD, WHERE DID THAT ORIGINATE? AND WHAT WAS THE PROCESS?

>> THIS IS A COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN BARRY SWITZER STARTED THIS COMPANY. I MET WITH HIM IN DESOTO ABOUT THE SAME SCHOOL WILL -- SCOREBOARDS BUT NOW THE SAME COMPANY IS TAKEN OVER IT BUT IT STARTED FROM A LOT OF THE SMALL TOWNS DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR SCOREBOARDS SO THEY STARTED DOING THIS TO GET BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, THEY STILL MAKE SOMETHING OFF OF IT BUT IT'S TO START THAT SO THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO US MULTIPLE TIMES. DAN SPOKE TO THEM AT A CONFERENCE AND WAS REALLY THOUGHT THE SCOREBOARDS ADDED A LOT TO REALLY PEP IT UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF TOWNS THAT HAVE THESE VIDEO BOARDS THAT THEY DO THIS ADVERTISING AND PUT THE KIDS NAMES UP THERE AND DO ALL THE FUN NAME SO, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE TOOK IT TO -- AND TALK TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN IT AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY VOTED THAT WE SHOULD BRING IT TO COUNSEL IF Y'ALL

WERE INTERESTED IN IT. >> JUST A NOTE, I DID WANT TO KIND OF -- IN THOSE PARKS MEETINGS THERE WAS TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT THIS WAS PRESENTED AT ONE, THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS, STAFF WENT BACK AND BROUGHT IT AGAIN IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF VOTING WITH THE PARKS BOARD THROUGH THAT PROCESS

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. MIKE? >> ABSOLUTELY. I'LL DO MY BEST.

>> MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY PARKS IS THAT ROUGHLY 10 OF THESE?

>> IT'S NINE. >> SO WHEN I READ ALL THAT

WHAT'S THE GROSS EXPENDITURE? >> FOR THEM?

>> INTO THIS. >> WE PAY ZERO FOR THIS OTHER THAN UP READING THE POWER AND THEY HAVE US DO THAT BECAUSE POWERS OURS FOREVER AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TOUCH OUR POWER SUPPLY AND THEY MAINTAIN THROUGHOUT THE LEASE SO IF WE HAVE A STORM THEY BREAK DOWN WHATEVER THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE NOW. WE GO UP AND WE DO SOMETHING TO IT WE BLOW IT UP THAT'S ON US. BUT -- IT IS LIKE 23? 22, 23,000?

>> AND IN THIS LEASE THERE IS NO YEARLY COST ON US? IT'S JUST AN AGREEMENT? FOR THE USAGE OF OUR PROPERTY AND THEN YOU SAID AT A

CERTAIN POINT , >> YES, THE BOARDS STAY WITH US.

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YES. SORRY. THEY SEND IN A LEASE, WE SEND IT TO JOE AND --

>> THEY CONTINUE MAINTENANCE PAST?

>> IF WE SIGN THE NEXT LICENSE. >> AND HOW BIG ARE THESE BOARDS?

>> THEY ARE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW I THINK. THERE MAY BE EIGHT BY FOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THEY ARE NOT HUGE BOARDS, THEY ARE NOT INCREASING THE SIZE TO THESE GIGANTIC CRAZY THINGS OUT THERE. JUST ADDING

MORE VISUAL. >> THE BOARDS WILL HAVE THE

SCORE ON IT >> YES, TAMMY, IS THAT PHOTO IN THERE? IT'S A TERRIBLE PHOTO BUT THERE YOU GO. SORRY WE HAD TO TAKE THIS OFF THE WEBSITE OF A VIDEO BUT THERE IS YOUR SCOREBOARD AT THE TOP WHEN YOU ARE JUST IN THE INNING AND THAT IS IN BETWEEN INNINGS THAT IT CHANGES TO THAT THEN IT GOES

BACK TO THE REGULAR SCORE. >> AND WE'VE GOT A PRETTY DEEP -- COMING, I KNOW DEPTH COVERAGE.

>> YES. WE CLARIFIED THAT TWICE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO PICK SOME

INTERESTING RESTAURANT. >> THE UNIVERSITY, UNILATERAL,

RIGHT? >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S IN -- THE EXCLUSIONS IN THE CONTRACT STATED? BUT STAFF -- HEATHER CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THEY WENT THAT DIRECTION TWICE TO CLARIFY WITH THE OPERATOR AS FAR AS THE IMPACT OF WHAT THEY DO AND ON THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT

ITSELF. >> IT'S NOT.

>> SO, I WILL LET YOU KNOW RIGHT HERE IN WHEN WE QUESTION ABOUT ADVERTISING IF AN AD IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD WE WILL NOT RUN THAT AD. WE WOULD NOT RUN A TATTOO SHOP ADD, ADULT NOVEL SHOPS, AT THAT ARE UP FOR IT WE ARE OPEN TO INCLUDING OTHER CATEGORIES THAT MIDLOTHIAN WOULD LIKE FOR US TO NOT RUN IN YOUR PARKS. ALSO IF A SINGLE AD IT DOES NOT RUN FROM AN APPROVED CATEGORY WE CAN SET THAT ADD TO NEVER RUN AGAIN IN THE FACILITY WITH OVER 250 BOARDS RUNNING IN FOUR STATES, I DON'T REMEMBER US EVER HAVING A COMPLAINT ABOUT ONE OF OUR ADS SO WE CAN ADD LANGUAGE --

>> I DON'T MIND. I JUST WANT -- >> I WOULD LIKE TO CODIFY THAT

WE HAVE THE RIGHT -- >> THE PREAPPROVAL -- INAUDIBLE ] THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPROVE ANY COMMUNITY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAPPROVE OR PRE-APPROVE PARKS STAFF FOR US TO SAY BEFORE IT SHOWS ON THE BOARD, LEGAL STANDING TO CALL THEM AND SAY THIS AD COMES DOWN.

>> I DIDN'T SEE, I COULD'VE MISSED IT BUT THE TIMING DURING

GAMES? >> ONLY DURING GAMES. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LEAVE THESE ON ALL THE TIME.

>> AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS WITH SOFTBALL AND

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>> NO, THAT WAS ASKED IN THERE AS WELL AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THIS GROUP, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE YOUTH SPORTS, THEY DID ASK THAT IF WE DO ALLOW THEM TO PUT A BANNER THAT THEY JUST MOVE IT AWAY FROM DIRECTLY UNDER THE SCOREBOARD BUT WE COULD PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE OR WE COULD GET

THEM ADVERTISED AS WELL. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING THE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL STILL CONTINUE TO DO THEIR THING?

>> ABSOLUTELY. YES, THEY CAN STILL DO THEIR THING. THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THEIR

FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES. >> THAT WAS A HOT TOPIC AND THERE WAS A -- I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY LANGUAGE THAT IS EXCLUSIVE IN THE PARK ABOUNDS FOR EXAMPLE. I DON'T THINK RELATED TO THAT, YES YOU COULD KEEP -- THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE A EVERYBODY IS DONE. THE LICENSING WOULD BE FOR A 10 YEAR?

>> YES, SIR. >> WE HAVE FREE ADVERTISING.

>> YES, SIR. ANY LOCAL GROUP THAT WANTS TO REFER THEM?

>> YES, THEY WILL REACH OUT BUT IF WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT IS A LOCAL BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO ADVERTISE ON THAT, ABSOLUTELY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET ADVERTISING ON THAT BOARD. ALSO THE SAME PART OF THAT ONE THING YOU MENTIONED WAS THEY WILL MAKE THE MONEY BUT AFTER THE BOARD IS PAID FOR THROUGH THE ADVERTISING THEY MAKE, 20% OF THAT.

>> LICENSING FOR 10 YEARS DO THEY HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION?

>> THEY SAY ABOUT 20 YEARS. >> AFTER THAT 2 1/2, THREE

YEARS? >> YES, SIR.

>> MY QUESTION BOILS DOWN TO I'M ASSUMING NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR, GRAFFITI OR SOMEBODY GETS UP REAL CLOSE .

>> THE GRAFFITI IS OUR ISSUE OR IF WE GO UP THERE AND WE DO SOMETHING TO TEAR IT UP, WHETHER RELATED, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, COMPLETE MELTDOWN OF THE BOARD, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, ALL OF THAT. BUT IF WE DID SOMETHING TO THE ELECTRICAL AND DO IT, THAT WOULD BE OUR ISSUE OUR REGULAR SCOREBOARD. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A HARD ONE TO SELL BUT, YES

IT WOULD BE OUR ISSUE. >> I JUST HAVE A MOTION IF

EVERYBODY IS DONE. >> I'LL TAKE IT.

>> AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE FURTHER EXCLUSIONS SECTION 5.1 ALONG WITH THE RIGHT TO REQUEST REMOVAL OF ANY AD

DEEMED OFFENSIVE BY THE CITY. >> CLARIFICATION QUESTION ON WHAT OTHER EXPANSION IS HE DOING?

>> POLITICAL. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M

ON THE SAME -- >> IF THERE'S ANYTHING

SPECIFIC. >> I THINK THEY WERE SAYING POLITICAL, TATTOO PARLORS, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE I HAVE.

ADULT ORIENTED. YEAH. >> SECOND.

>> ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MOORMAN.

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>> THANK YOU. OPENING ITEM 2025 043 AN ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN PARKS ADVISORY BOARD.

>> OKAY, I'M BACK AGAIN FOR THIS ONE. THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WERE WORKING ON WITH PARK BOARD. THE BYLAWS WERE VERY DATED FROM BEFORE WE EVEN HAD A DIRECTOR POSITION IN PLACE. SO A LOT OF THE DUTIES AND THINGS THAT WERE SHOWN IN HERE RELATED TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS WHICH, THAT IS THE -- UNDER THE JOB DESCRIPTION, THE PARK DIRECTOR'S JOB TO MANAGE THAT.

THE OTHER PART OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AS WE SPOKE WITH PARK BOARD, THEY JUST WANTED THINGS TO BE OUTLINED A LITTLE BETTER, IDENTIFIED, DEFINED. SO WE WORKED ON THIS ONE, WE HAD THE MAYOR IN HERE FOR THIS AND A LITTLE BIT. SO WE JUST WENT THROUGH PIECE BY PIECE AND IN YOUR PACKET I THINK YOU WILL SEE YOU HAVE THE REDLINE SHEET OF SHOWING THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. LIKE IN PURPOSE AND SCOPE, AGAIN, IT WAS WHEN THERE WAS NOT A DIRECTOR TO HELP MANAGE THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS SO, IT REALLY JUST CALLS OUT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND WHO WE ALL REPORT TO AND THEN IN SECTION 2 AGAIN IT REMOVES MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND DISCUSSES THAT THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL ON THE REVISION OF THE MASTER PLAN IDENTIFYING THAT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REALLY FOLLOWING AND CREATING IS THAT MASTER PLAN, TO GUIDE THE PARK BOARD, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THAT WOULD BE COUNSEL. AND THEN WE ADDED ANOTHER SECTION, A SMALL CHANGE THAT WAS IF THE CHAIR CAN MAKE -- PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA BUT IF THERE'S THREE OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA AND THE CHAIR IS NOT -- DOES NOT AGREE, BUT THREE OR MORE CAN GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT.

THEY WOULD JUST REACH OUT TO THE LIAISON OR THE STAFF. TO HAVE THAT DONE. AND SO WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I WILL SAY THE ADVISORY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON THIS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD ON THESE CHANGES.

>> THANK YOU. ENGAGEMENT ON THIS TOPIC? VERY FUN READING.

>> YES. >> IN SECTION 6, RULES, YOU CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE THE REVISED VERSION SHALL BE OBSERVED PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE EXCEPT WHEN THE BOARD OR THE COUNCIL HAS -- I LOOKED THROUGH TO SEE IF THE BOARD COULD SUPERSEDE THOSE RULES AND I DON'T SEE SOMETHING -- I MEAN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT -- SO YEAH. I CAN JUST REMOVE EVERYTHING AFTER. ALL THE WAY THROUGH, WE ARE USING IT AS -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULD NEED SUPERSEDED.

>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A BOARD, THE COUNCIL IN OUR GOVERNANCE POLICY, WE ARE NOT HELD TO THE ORDER SO I THINK THAT WAS THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT. IN THE APPROPRIATE MANNER MAYBE TO WHAT YOU SHARED BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS -- BOARD SPECIFIC TO JUST -- MORE A GUIDELINE. CLYDE COULD PROBABLY

-- >> WE CALLED IT A GENERAL GUIDE

AND -- >> I SEE.

>> JUST A GUIDE. >> I'M WITH YOU.

>> IT MAKES MORE SENSE. >> YES, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS

SUPPOSED TO BE. CLARK? >> UNDER DUTIES, ON SECTION 6,

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>> THAT'S IN ADDITION TO. IT'S JUST PART OF THE PARK THAT THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE ADVISING OVER. YES, SIR.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ARTICLE TWO SECTION 6, REMOVE THE WORDS EXCEPT FOR THE

BOARD OR COUNSEL. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM. LET'S VOTE.

>> ITEM PASSES 7-0. WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE INTENT WHY?

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>> YES, SIR, ABSOLUTELY. >> CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE HERITAGE PARK -- WE HAVE HEATHER AND HENRY FROM PARK HILL

DESIGNS. >> YES, SIR, JUST WANT TO KIND OF APPEAR AND SAY WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE POSSIBILITIES OF THIS PARK AND WE HAVE HENRY PARKER HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT AND DISCUSS WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THOUGHT I'D GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PARK. WE ARE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN. I WILL GIVE YOU A QUICK RECAP OF WORKSHOP NUMBER TWO MAKE IT VERY QUICK BUT I WANTED TO GO OVER YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR DIRECTION. THAT WE CAPTURED AND INCORPORATED IN THE REVISED PLAN. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE REVISED PLAN AND ULTIMATELY WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO REFER TO THE MASTER PLAN TONIGHT. AND THAT WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO FINALIZE PRICING AND MOVE FORWARD WITH ENGINEERING. SO, THE LAST TIME WE MET, WE LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED WHAT WE CALLED THE REVISED CONCEPT PLAN. WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, QUANTITIES AND SCALE TALKING ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SPACES AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME IMAGES THAT HELPED COMMUNICATE THE VISION OF THE PARK, COUNTY PARK SPACES WOULD BE USED, WHAT TYPE OF PROGRAMMING IS POSSIBLE, REALLY CAN BE MULTIPURPOSE, EACH SPACE CAN BE PROGRAMMED IN ITS OWN WAYS. YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DRAW PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND IF WE DO THIS IT WOULD CERTAINLY ENERGIZE THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ATTRACT NEW

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ALSO, WE WOULD CLOSE BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND NINTH STREET, IT WOULD REMAIN OPEN ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE WATER FEATURE WE PROPOSED IN HERITAGE PARK AT HERITAGE CROSSING, PROPOSED FOOD TRUCKS AND THAT WE INCORPORATE A WATER TOWER REPLICATING THE ORIGINAL WATER TOWER , WE TOOK THOSE COMMENTS AND INCORPORATED THEM INTO THE REVISED PLAN. THIS IS HIGH LEVEL DESIGN ABOUT SPATIAL PLANNING LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMMING IN RELATION TO COMPONENTS, WE ARE NOT AT THE DETAILED LEVEL OF DESIGN. SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT. THIS PLAN DOES PICK UP ON THOSE TAKEAWAYS.

THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS LOG CABIN IS SHOWN SOME ENHANCEMENTS ALONG -- WE HAVE CLOSED OFF BETWEEN EIGHTH AND 10TH STREET AND SOME ENHANCEMENTS IN THE BACK AS WELL AND THE WATER FEATURE HAS BEEN MOVED TO WHAT WE ARE CALLING HERITAGE CROSSING IN THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER. ZOOMING A LITTLE BIT FOR WHEN WE LAST MET THE PARKING LOT HAS NOT CHANGED, THE MAIN PARKING LOT HAS 106 SPACES. THERE'S 36 PARKING SPACES FOR A TOTAL OF 142 PARKING SPACES. THE PARKING LOT ALIGNS WITH NINTH STREET BACK ALLEY PLAZA. IT SERVES FROM THE PARK TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE OTHER SIDES SO IF WE MADE THIS ANY BIGGER IT WOULD ENCROACH, IT WOULD JUST IMPACT THE SIZE, HALF THE SIZE OF THE PARK SO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A COMFORTABLE SIZE. THE MAX NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WE CAN, LIMITING THE REST OF THE PARK. THE MAIN LAWN IS HALF AN ACRE ON THE NORTH END BY THE STAGE INCLUDING STORAGE AND ELECTRICAL ROOMS, STORAGE BUILDING SOUTHSIDE BUILDING THE LAWN, THE CABIN, WE ARE PROPOSING LETTING THE TREE GROW ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, TREES PROVIDE SHADE AND A NICE SEEDING SPOT. WE SEE THIS COMMONLY WITH OAKS BUT DECIDUOUS TREE SO YOU HAVE THE SHADE IN THE SUMMER BUT NOT -- THE GAME LAWN ON THE NORTH WAS REDUCED WHEN WE PUT THE TREE GROWTH IN BUT IT'S STILL LARGE ENOUGH, LAWN FOR LAWN GAMES AND SUPPORT SPACE FOR THE MAIN LAWN. WE ARE SHOWING SOME ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE STREET SHOWING THIS WITH PAVERS THAT TIE IN WITH THE PAVING PATTERN. THIS REALLY IN AN EVENT IF YOU ARE IN THE STREETS YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE PART OF THE PARK IN THE STREET NEXT TO THE PARK SO REALLY EXPANDS THE FEEL OF THE SPACE RIGHT UP TO THE FRONT DOOR OF CITY HALL. NOW THE RADIO PAVING AROUND THE CABIN IS PAVING THAT WOULD REPURPOSE THE EXISTING MEMORIAL PAVERS THAT ARE THERE HAVING RADIO PAVING AROUND THE LOG CABIN DIFFERENTIATES ITSELF FROM THE REST OF THE PARK THAT INDICATES THIS IS DIFFERENT IN A SPECIAL PLACE AND ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF VISUAL INTEREST. THERE'S A SMALL PLACE SCAPE AND PLAZA THERE IN THE CENTER PART OF THE PARK BUT IT'S WIDE OPEN AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER

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THE INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURES SMALL, ONLY FIVE OR 600 FEET AND WE HAVE TO OPEN SO IN THE DEPOT AREA WE'VE ABOUT 45 SPACES AND THE BACK ALLEY PLAZA THERE'S ABOUT 60, WE ARE PROPOSING SOME FENCING TO SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS DOWNTOWN SIGN ABOVE SCREEN WOULD BE ONE OF THE STANDARD CITY -- SCALED DOWN TO FIT THE SPACE COMING IN FROM THE EAST. LET'S SEE. THE WATER TOWER AS WELL. SITS IN THE CORNER OF THAT PARKING LOT TYING INTO THE RAILROAD THEME AND THE CEMENT CAPITAL EXIT SIGN AT THE CORNER OF 10TH STREET THERE SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES WE HAVE MADE. CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? I WANT TO JUST REINFORCE THIS IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTUAL. LET'S HAVE A HEALTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. LET'S TRY TO GET A REVIEW AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS

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>> I'M GOING TO GO IN THE MINORS, SORRY. IT'S MORE ABOUT -- I KNOW IT'S THE DESIGN BUT IS THE HEART OF MIDLOTHIAN -- SISTER CITY IN SCOTLAND BEING REPLICATED? AND IS FUTURE BRICKS ABLE TO STILL -- UPKEEP OF THE CABIN?

>> THAT PROGRAM FOR BUYING -- AND WHEN YOU CAME UP WITH A NUMBER FOR PARKING SPOTS WAS THAT USING THE TOTAL?

>> YES. >> WHAT WAS THE TOTAL NUMBER?

>> 60 AND 45. SOUTH OF AVENUE F. >> 60 ALREADY EXISTING?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. 197 NEW SPOTS.

>> THAT'S JUST A PARKING LOT IN HERITAGE GARDEN.

>> 142+? 105, 42 AND -- >> JUST A CLARIFICATION -- PARKING SPACES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THERE'S SOME PARKING ALONG THAT EXISTS, I'M ASSUMING YOU ARE NOT INCLUDING THAT? I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE NET GAIN IS. I'M NOT FINDING VERY APPRECIABLE --

>> NET GAIN IN HERITAGE PARK, 126. 126 .

>> YOU ARE COUNTING OUR CURRENT?

>> NO, NOT IN THIS. THE NEW PARKING LOT AVENUE E. AM I

RIGHT? >> THE NEW PARKING LOT WHICH IS 106, 126 PARKING SPACES ADDING 45 DOWN BY THE FOOD TRUCKS.

>> YOU'RE NOT COUNTING THE BACK ALLEY?

>> CORRECT OR THE SPACES ON EIGHTH STREET. OKAY. SO HERITAGE

PARK, 126 45. >> 191.

>> DO WE KNOW WHAT THE EXISTING PARKING IS? WHAT WILL BE SHOWN ON THIS OVERLAY?

OLD CITY HALL? >> I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS BUT WE ARE LOSING -- CITY HALL SO IT WILL YEAH. SO THE NET GAIN

IS >> THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

>> SO THE TREES DOWN AVENUE F YOU ARE RECOMMENDING US --

>> THE IDEA IS THAT EVENTUALLY WHATEVER WE DO DOWNTOWN IT WOULD BE NICE TO EXTEND IT TO THE EAST AND EXTEND IT TO THE WEST ARE NOT SHOWING DOWNTOWN, WE START EXPANDING ON

IT BUT -- >> AND THE STAR -- IF I WAS

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OPEN. TWO CARS. >> RIGHT, YOU CAN DRIVE RIGHT ACROSS IT AND IN FRONT OF CITY HALL I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE GATE BEING THERE. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY BALLER'S?

>> WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED SOMETHING TO KEEP CARS --

>> WHEN YOU WANTED TO SHUT IT DOWN. ARE THERE HOOKUPS FOR TRUCKS ON THAT SIDE AS WELL? OR HOOKUPS IN THE ONE SPOT.

>> WE ARE NOT SHOWING ANY HOOKUPS. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IT COULDN'T IF WE ENVISIONED -- RIGHT NOW THE ONLY PLACE IN THE

CROSSING. >> THAT MIGHT BE MY ONLY THING.

ALSO ADD SOME IT SEEMS -- SAY AGAIN? SO WE COULD HAVE THEM ON

BOTH? HAVE THEM OVER THERE? >> IN THE BACK ALLEY PLAZA, IS THAT THE OWNERSHIP THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDINGS JUST STOPPING?

>> TO BE HONEST WE ARE NOT 100% CLEAR. SO ONCE WE GET INTO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GIS FILE. ON OUR END THERE STILL A LITTLE AMBIGUITY. SO THE INTENT IS THAT WE ARE SHOWING IMPROVEMENT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M MAKING SURE, BASICALLY YOU STAND WITH PAVERS ALL OVER CITY PROPERTY. ON THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING I GUESS TO F, THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE? BECAUSE I HAVE YET TO FIGURE OUT -- AVENUE F FROM --

>> THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS? WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT WIDER THAN A TYPICAL SIDEWALK YOU KNOW? A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE TO THE FAMILIES WALKING STROLLERS WITH CHILDREN SO MAKE IT 10, 12, 15 FEET? TO MAKE IT SUBSTANTIAL AND

SAY -- IS THIS STAMPED BRICK? >> RIGHT NOW WE ARE REALLY -- I'M ENVISIONING THE STREET AND WE WILL EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPTIONS BASED ON COSTS. IN THE PLAZA THERE COULD BE A COMBINATION CONCRETE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DECIDED. WE'RE NOT AT

THAT LEVEL. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS AS SOMEBODY WHO -- THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN. THEY ARE NOT FRIENDLY WHEN TRYING TO MOVE AROUND SO THEN THIS IS FOR COUNSEL, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD.

THE RESTROOMS INTO THE STAGE BLOCKING THE VIEW -- MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT? I DON'T EITHER. SO IF THIS IS THE DESIGN OBVIOUSLY THAT'S FINE BUT I JUST, AND ALLOWS THE OVERCROWDING TO EXPAND PAST AND THE IDEA IS TO PLANT TREES AND CONSOLIDATE, THEN I GET THAT I'M CURIOUS IF MY SISTER IS HAVING A PIZZA BEING ABLE TO ALSO WATCH. THAT IS TRUE. A MORE

CENTRAL LOCATION. >> IT'S NOT A HILL I'M GOING TO DIE ON. I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER. TO MOVE IT TO THE

STAGE OR JUST WHERE IT WAS. >> I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE

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VERY VALUABLE AND -- >> YEP, THANK YOU, ALAN. MIKE?

>> I JUST WANTED TO MY MIND. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A NUMBER OF FOLKS AS WE SAY ON THE STREET. ON BOARD MEMBERS, CITIZENS LAST HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD DOWN THE LIST. I'M CURIOUS IF WE BOARD MEMBERS APPROVED THIS PLAN TONIGHT SET NOT IN STONE BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PARK WE WERE GOING TO GET. IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT WITH

THIS -- CONCEPT? >> I SUPPORT THE GENERAL CONCEPT, YES BUT I ALSO

CETERA. >> MY CONCERNS AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD AND I MUST SAY THAT MOST RECENTLY INAUDIBLE ] OF COURSE I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

BUT I'M ALSO VERY NERVOUS. WE ARE ABOUT TO GET THE DESTINATION POINT ACTIVITY WE HAVE NOT -- MAJOR IMPACT. HOW THEY WILL HANDLE THEIR PARKING ISSUES

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EVENTS. >> ON EIGHTH STREET. RIGHT NOW WE ARE SHOWING THAT'S COMPLETELY CLOSED. SO THE CONCERN THAT I'VE GOTTEN IS I DON'T THINK CLOSED IN DUE TIME.

THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO LET GO OF THAT. THEY COULD MOVE INTO THAT PROCESS SLOWLY. WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT -- I BELIEVE THIS IS LACKING. I BELIEVE THE BIGGEST QUESTION -- WHAT PERIOD OF TIME DO WE SEE FOR THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF, FOR INSTANCE BEHIND OVER A PORTION OF THAT GREEN SPACE WE POSSIBLY BUILD OUT OVER TIME, GOING TO BE SOME PARKING AND TEAR THAT UP LATER OR WE TALKED AND WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO ALL THIS AT ONE TIME? I'M GETTING A LOT OF FOLKS CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO EASE INTO THIS VERSUS JUMP IN HEADFIRST. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO GAIN 15 TO 20 PARKING SPOTS AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE FOREFRONT TO BENEFIT US. I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN WE COVERED THE CONCEPT IDEA IN THE BEGINNING WE HAD A WORKSHOP TO THE PUBLIC. IT WAS A MAJOR DRAW. WE PUT IT OUT THERE, EVERYBODY GOES AROUND, HAVE WE HAD AN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FINAL DRAW MEETING WORKSHOP LIKE THAT? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE. SO WHERE I'M CONCERNED IS, I MAY THINK THIS IS GREAT BUT I'M NOT GETTING ENOUGH FOLKS, WE WILL PUT IT THAT WAY, THAT THEY ARE NOT TOTALLY SOLD. I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER OPEN HOUSE, ANOTHER STICKER PARTY AND SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH. ON THAT AGAIN. ALSO WHAT ALAN MENTIONED, A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT THIS AND I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS EVERYTHING I LIKE BECAUSE TWO MAJOR THINGS I NEED TO KNOW IS COST AND IF THERE'S ROOM FOR MORE PARKING. WITHIN SOME OF THESE SPACES, PARKING WILL BE MY CONCERN AS WE ENTER THIS NEW PROCESS. AS WE TALK ABOUT IT. SO ADDING PARKING, PHASING PARKING OUT COULD CERTAINLY BE DONE. THAT WOULD TAKE OUR PART. WE WOULD LOOK AT THE PHASING AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITY IS. SO THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE. I DID WANT

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>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY HAS IN MIND AS FAR AS BUILDING IT. WE'VE GOT HERITAGE PARK AND THE CROSSING I THINK THE PRIORITY ALL ALONG HAS BEEN HERITAGE PARK AVAILABLE LOOKING

AT DIFFERENT AREAS. >> AND WE JUST CLARIFY, THE COST? I FEEL LIKE WE ARE JUMPING THE GUN A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE

CONVERSATIONS. >> YOU BROUGHT THIS QUESTION TO MY MIND WHEN YOU SHOW THE TREES IN THE SIDEWALK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE, EVERYTHING IS COLORFUL, WHAT IS BEING DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED OR IS IT JUST THAT'S EXTRA ON THE PHOTO IN THIS AREA.

WHAT IS THE TRUE SCOPE OF WORK.

>> WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION.

>> THERE IS NO CONTRACT WHATSOEVER.

>> OUR CONTRACT DESIGN WOULD BE WHAT YOU TELL US.

>> THIS PLAN OR ANOTHER PLAN. START PRICING IT. IF WE LIKE THAT ESTIMATE WE CAN PURSUE, IF WE DON'T LIKE IT WE CAN WHITTLE IT AND THEN PURSUE ENGINEERING I WILL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. I BELIEVE YOU CAN BUILD THE CITY ONE TIME EVEN IF THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO PUSH IT OUT, MIDLOTHIAN, WHEN YOU COME TO THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, QUALITY. WE NEED TO REFLECT THAT QUALITY , STRATEGIC PLAN TO FUND SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES. KEEP IN FOCUS THE QUALITY, A TON OF HEAT WITH ALL THE BIG PROJECTS TYPICALLY THOSE PEOPLE DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND THIS WILL BE NO EXCEPTION. I'D LIKE TO SEE US IF IT'S NOT TONIGHT, CONCEPTUAL PLAN -- VOICES AT THE TABLE, HAPPY TO DO THAT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO STALL OUT.

>> CLARIFICATION ON THE PROCESS THUS FAR, PEOPLE WERE LEFT OUT OR WHATNOT? COMMITTEE WE HAVE HAD WORKSHOPS, WE HAVE HAD INPUT IN THE FORMS LIKE WHAT AM I MISSING? ALSO HAVE A DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE TO WORK ON THIS SPECIFICALLY?

>> I THINK WE STARTED RIGHT AND I THINK WE PRESENTED, I -- WHERE I AM UNCOMFORTABLE IS IT WILL BE THE CENTERPIECE. WE HAVE SOME FORM OR ANOTHER OPEN HOUSE LAID OUT SAYING THIS IS THE FINAL, WE CAN TWEAK IT A

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TALKING ABOUT. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, THREE OF US HAVE BUILT A PARK BEFORE. THAT WAS PROBABLY WORSE THAN THIS BUT THE ONLY THING I HAVE, BECAUSE ME AND YOU LIVED IT IS, I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE AN INPUT ON THIS, 100%. THE PROBLEM IS NOT NECESSARILY A PROBLEM BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THAT CASE, A LOT MORE, I WANT TO BUILD A SPLASH PAD AND THEY SAY WE WANT YOU TO BUILD AN 18 -- AND WE ARE SITTING THERE GOING WE'VE GOT TWO BOARDS, ONE OF THEM -- AND ONE OF THEM IS NOT. I DO 100% AGREE. THAT'S WHERE THE BOARD

CAN SHARE THEIR INPUT. >> WE DID THE SURVEYS.

>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SHARE TO THAT IS WE HAVE ONE BOARD APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S THE PARK BOARD THAT WE JUST APPROVED BYLAWS ON, SO I CAN READ THE BYLAWS AND MAKE A POINT BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR WHEN YOU READ THE FIRST PAGE OF THE BYLAWS IF THERE IS ANYTHING IT IS SPECIFIC TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS EXACTLY LIKE A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE SO WHEN WE HAVEN'T HAD, WE WILL SAY NEGLIGIBLE IF ANY FROM THAT BOARD, I AM NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO GO TALK TO EVERY BOARD THE CITY HAS BUT THE PARK BOARD FOR A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PARK I THINK IS APPROPRIATE AND I THINK IF WE FIND THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE WE NEED TO CIRCLE BACK TO THESE BYLAWS AND SAY WHAT IS IT THAT WE WANT THIS BOARD TO DO AND WHAT IS ITS FUNCTION? THAT IS A BROAD CONVERSATION.

>> I WAS ON COUNSEL WHEN MCP WAS DESIGNED AND I KNOW BECAUSE I HAD QUESTIONS AND THEY SAID VOTE AND IT'S GOING TO COUNSEL. I'M NOT TRYING TO DISREGARD PARKS AT ALL. MY QUESTION IS WE KNOW THIS IS ABOUT WANTING TO BUILD, LET'S BE HONEST. WE GO AND SAY IT'S WE NEED SOME MONEY TO BUILD THIS AND WHAT THEY SAY WHO ARE THE ONES GETTING THIS MONEY IS OPPOSITE WHAT THE PARKS ARE

SAYING WHERE WE WERE WITH MCP. >> THOSE ARE FUNDING.

>> BRIDGE ONE IS IN MY OPINION NEEDED TO GET A JOINT WORKSHOP.

I WANT ALL THREE. OURS INCLUDED. SO IF IT TAKES US DELAYING IT --

>> SO THAT WENT OUT TO OUR WORST -- LAST WORKSHOP? WHERE WERE

THEY? >> WE BROADCAST OF THE COMMUNITY

JUST AS WE BROADCAST ALL -- >> SO IF THE EXTENT OF THE PARKS BOARDS RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO BE MADE THROUGH COMING TO MEETINGS AS A CITIZEN WHAT DELINEATES THAT PARTICULAR PERSON SERVING ON THE PARKS BOARD FROM ANY OTHER CITIZEN WHO CAN ATTEND

THOSE? >> I'M WONDERING WHERE WAS THE

-- >> THE ISSUE IS THAT LAST NIGHT WE HAD AND THEIR MEETING WAS RUSHED AND SO THAT'S COMPLETELY DESERVED. I FEEL LIKE WE HAD MORE TIME TO PROCESS, IF WE DIDN'T FEEL RUSHED WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

>> 4-2, RIGHT? >> THEY TOOK A RECORD VOTE. I'M

NOT MAD AT ANYBODY HERE BUT -- >> I WON'T SAY I DISAGREE.

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>> THAT WOULD STILL BE STRUCTURE AND PROCESS GIVE A CHALLENGING -- IT DEFINITELY WOULD STILL BE CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE DESIGN ON THAT WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN HEARD THE DAY BEFORE. SO NOW INPUT DIRECTLY WITH COUNSEL. I THINK INVOLVING THOSE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS, I'M WONDERING WHAT WE JUST APPROVED ON THE BYLAWS.

>> I WANT OUR PARKS TEAM TO FEEL HONORED, BUT AS A TEAM OF SEVEN HERE WE HAVE MADE THE DECISION ON WHAT THIS PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WE KEEP DECIDING AND SO WE CAME OUT AND WE SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THE PROCESS TO BE SO WE ALREADY SAID THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WAS ALREADY AND THIS IS HIGH-LEVEL SO THEREFORE THE NEXT LAYER OF THIS -- THESE WORKSHOPS, THESE SURVEYS, THEY DID EXACTLY WHAT WE TOLD THEM TO DO. AND NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE COMPLAINING, I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP ON DOING THE DECISION. WE SAY THIS IS OUR FOOTPRINT. LET'S GO OUT AND DO IT. WE ALL ARE SAYING THIS IS A HUGE PRIORITY. AND I WANT TO STOP FLIP-FLOPPING.

>> WHAT DID WE DECIDE ON? >> EVEN NOW IT'S LIKE WE ARE LIKE WE'VE GOT TO STOP OR IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE SAYING WE'VE GOT TO STOP AND HAVE MORE WORKSHOPS.

>> I WOULD HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR A PROCESS THAT EXCLUDED THE

PARKS BOARD. >> I DON'T THINK --

>> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. >> FROM WHAT I REMEMBER -- PARKS PROJECTS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS -- THAT I DO BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY GOT A SCENARIO AT NIGHT, TYPICALLY WHEN COMMUNITY SEES WORKSHOPS AS YOU AND I KNOW THEY DON'T TYPICALLY -- BUT WHEN THE WORD GETS AROUND ABOUT THE PARK SCENARIO THEY LAY OUT THE PLANS AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS THAT SHOWED UP. THERE MUST BE A REASON FOR IT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING, I WAS A CITIZEN, OKAY WE PUT STICKERS ON EVERYTHING NOW THEY ARE GOING TO GO INTO THE BAG AND PULL OUT -- THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS WEEK I'VE SEEN THIS DRAWING AND I BELIEVE I'M GETTING CALLS FOR FOLKS SEEING THIS DRAWING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I'M GETTING CALLS ABOUT OVER 10 IN THE LAST TWO DAYS FOLKS THAT I TALKED TO AT THE EVENT UNREST THERE. ANOTHER PARTY ON AN EVENING TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THEIR DOLLARS AND I PERSONALLY DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT SAYING IF I GET TO MAKE THE DECISION AND I'M HAPPY

FILL THE SURVEY OUT? >> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO

THAT. >> DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE THIS BACK AND CHOOSE? ALLEN HAS A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE. SO

HOW CAN I MEDIATE? >> I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE A DUTY TO TAKE -- WHY DON'T YOU ALL OPEN HOUSE -- FORMAT LIKE WE DID IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. BEYOND THAT, THAT IS MORE WHAT

ALAN IS TALKING ABOUT. >> LET ME BE CLEAR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WANT TO DO ALL THAT I CAN DO AND BUILD AS MUCH MOMENTUM ON THIS PROJECT AS POSSIBLE. I'M HAPPY TO PUSH PAUSE.

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SO LET'S DO IT. LET'S FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION AND LET DO IT.

>> SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT SHARING CONCERNS ABOUT THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE PARKS BOARD, JUST AS A MOUTHPIECE OF THE BOARD. I'M, I'M SHARING IT FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE, AS A COUNCILMEMBER AND AS A LIAISON TO THAT BOARD.

BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. THIS ISN'T SOMEBODY WHO'S UPSET, AND I'M RELAYING THAT INFORMATION. I'M UPSET BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS. I'M SHARING THAT WITH COUNCIL. AS FAR AS WHAT I'M LOOKING TO SEE IN THERE -- THEIR INVOLVEMENT, WE DO SOME KIND OF WORKSHOP FOR INPUT, I'M ALL FOR THAT, BUT I'M ONLY FOR THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, BECAUSE PUTTING US ALL IN A ROOM FOR A WORKSHOP TO CHECK A BOX AND SAY, OKAY, WE HEARD YOU, AND NOW JUST WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT REALLY PRODUCTIVE. BUT IF WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, AND WE REALLY DO WANT THAT INPUT FROM THE BOARD AS A

WHOLE, THEN THAT'S GREAT. >> IS THAT YOUR, IS, IS THE SHARED WORKSHOP -- AT YOUR RECOMMENDATION --

>> I THINK THAT'S THE -- >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE CLEAREST WAY TO GET, I THINK THE CLEAREST WAY TO GET INPUT FROM THE APPOINTED MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD, THAT SKILL, WOULD BE IN PERSON AND A ROOM TOGETHER.

>> MAY I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, REGARDING WHAT WE HAVE HERE? WE ADVISORY GROUP THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. WE'VE GOT A GROUP THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON --

PROVIDED BY THE COUNCIL -- >> DOWNTOWN --

>> THERE WAS A DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE, DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE --

>> DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE. >> WE MET WITH THEM A COUPLE

TIMES. >> WHAT I'M HEARING IS, BASICALLY ASKING THE GROUP THAT WE'VE ALREADY, I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT ASKING THE GROUP THAT'S ALREADY GIVEN THIS UP TO EXPAND, POSSIBLY, TO HAVE A MEETING WITH A JOINT MEETING OF SOME SORT WITH THE PARKS BOARD -- AND THEN THEY'LL BE HAVING ANOTHER CITYWIDE, I THINK, THAT WE HAVE -- SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE SO FAR. THERE'S STILL SOME TWEAKING TO BE DONE BEFORE WE GET TO THE POINT OF ENGINEERING AND COST AND ALL OF THAT. BUT I'M, I'M WITH MAYOR COFFMAN, IF -- WHERE WE ARE, JUST, IF WE SAY, LET'S COME LET'S HAVE ANOTHER EXPANSION OF INPUT AND WE CONTINUE ON. BUT THAT WOULD, TO ME, SOUNDS LIKE ASKING WHO WE'VE ALREADY APPOINTED TO RUN THIS PROCESS, AND ADD THOSE TWO, AT LEAST THOSE TWO ELEMENTS -- FROM THE COUNCIL TO IT. JUST FOR MY OWN CLARIFICATION, THAT'S WHAT

I'M HEARING. ROSS? >> YEAH, SO THE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE -- GATEWAY, IS THAT THE EASIEST --

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND I SEE THAT -- PATIO SEATING ON THE EAST SIDE. BUT THAT'S -- THE BACKSIDE OF THE

BUILDING, RIGHT? >> DUMPSTERS RIGHT NOW.

>> YEAH. OH YEAH. YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, JERMAINE, OR MAY BE CHANGED BY PARKS BOARD OR PUBLIC INPUT, FUTURE DESIGN MEETINGS. BUT I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO --

>> GOOD POINT. >> YOU BET.

>> NO, THE ONLY THING I, I'M STILL JUST CONFUSED. I'M WITH MIKE 100% ON -- BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IF WE HADN'T, I DON'T REMEMBER. I DO REMEMBER SAYING -- BUT AS FAR AS -- GOES TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, I WAS AT THE DOWNTOWN MEETING, AND IT WAS TWO PARKS BOARD MEMBERS, SEVERAL DOWNTOWN OWNERS, TWO COUNCILMEMBERS, MAYBE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK MAYBE THE WHOLE COUNSEL WAS -- MAYBE 2A MEMBERS AND 2B MEMBERS. SO WE HAD BOTH STAKEHOLDERS, AND SO TO SAY THAT THE B BOARD, OR NOT B BOARD, I'M SORRY, PARKS BOARD DIDN'T HAVE INPUT, I MEAN, I, I FELT LIKE THEY DID. IT, I DON'T KNOW. DID THE PARKS APPOINT THOSE TWO STAKEHOLDERS, OR WAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT THOSE TWO PEOPLE. OR WAS THAT -- THE MAYOR DID? OKAY. SO I GUESS, TO BE CLEAR, IS THAT NOT THEM GETTING THEIR INPUT AT THE TABLE? BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THOSE TWO MEMBERS AND NOT THE --

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>> SO IF I WAS A PARKS BOARD MEMBER, WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY, I NEVER SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY, BUT YOU, YOU DID, YOU SHARED EARLIER WITH ME. WHEN I'M READING WHAT OUR BYLAWS SAY, THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED IN, I WOULD MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT I WOULD BE INVOLVED AS A PARKS BOARD MEMBER A LITTLE MORE THOROUGHLY IN THE PLANNING OF THE PARK OF THIS SCALE. SO THAT'S THE SIMPLEST WAY I CAN PUT IT.

>> YEAH, NO, I GET IT. AND MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. I CAN JUST TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE THAT'S NEVER, LIKE, I, I THINK BACK, BECAUSE I WAS ON A PARKS BOARD WHEN WE STARTED BUILDING NCP, AND I GOT ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE WERE FINISHED WITH MCP. AND NOBODY, NOT THE BOND COMMITTEE, THE COUNCIL, OR THE PARKS BOARD CAME UP WITH THE DESIGN. SOME, SOME DESIGN FIRMS LEFT IT UP THERE AND EVERYBODY SAID, YEAH, GO AHEAD. I MEAN, THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED. AND I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ALL WE'VE DONE HERE. I, BUT I, I WILL DIGRESS AND CONTINUE WITH MIKE, LIKE, YEAH, I DO THINK ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE GREAT. BUT THAT'S HOW WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT. MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG WAY TO DO IT. I DON'T KNOW.

>> LET'S DO BOTH. LET'S HAVE A PUBLIC, OPEN HOUSE TO THE PUBLIC, OR TO BE, TO THE MASS PUBLIC, AND THEN AFTER WE GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM, LET'S TAKE THAT INFORMATION, WEIGH IT, AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE PARKS BOARD AND THE COUNCIL, DO A WORKSHOP, AND THEN AFTER WE GET THAT INFORMATION, WE WILL PUT IT ON PAPER AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL, AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE RIGMAROLE AGAIN.

>> DEWEY CHANGE OF OUR FEES OR ANYTHING, SINCE WE'RE ADDING TO

OUR CONTRACT RIGHT NOW? >> I MEAN, THAT'S A HENRY QUESTION, BUT I BELIEVE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A SET AMOUNT OF

MEETINGS? >> LET ME LOOK AT OUR CONTRACT.

WE DID HAVE A, A PROCESS. LET ME LOOK AT THAT, AND I'LL GET BACK

WITH HEATHER. >> LISTEN. THIS, THIS IS THE EASY PART. PEOPLE WILL START TALKING ABOUT FUNDING. THAT'S THE HARD PART. SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SHARPEN OUR PENCILS.

LET'S TALK TO ALL THE FOLKS -- SHOW UP, AND LET'S GET ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE CAN. LET'S INVITE ALL 43,000 PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP, GENUINELY, GIVE US REAL FEEDBACK. LET'S RESENT SURVEYS.

LET'S PUT THIS BEFORE THEM WITH, WITH MARKERS, ALLOW THEM TO MARK IT UP AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS. LET'S TRY TO COLLABORATE WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION, TAKE THAT TO A JOINT WORKSHOP SETTING, BRING IT TO COUNCIL. AND THEN LET'S MOVE TO THE HARD PART, WHICH IS FINDING THE MONEY TO DO IT.

>> WE FIND THE MONEY ONCE WE HAVE THE SUPPORT.

>> EXACTLY, WHICH IS WHY I'M SO DESPERATE FOR THE SUPPORT.

>> OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL A LATER DATE, TO BE DETERMINED. WE GOT A MOTION BY MYSELF, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WEAVER. DATE TO BE DETERMINED.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 7-0. THANK YOU, HENRY.

>> YEAH, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD STUFF. MOVING

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>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. EXCITED TO BE BEFORE EVERYBODY TODAY. TAMMY, WILL YOU HELP -- NEXT SLIDE -- NEVERMIND. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WENT BEFORE MIDLOTHIAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD LAST NIGHT. AND SO WE PROVIDED A DRAFT AGREEMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BOARD PACKET, OR IN THE COUNCIL PACKET. THAT IS THE SAME DOCUMENTS, SO THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD DID APPROVE THE AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE PROGRAM AND EXPENDITURE OF THE ORDER BEFORE YOU TODAY. SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT ALIGNS WITH NEDS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF ATTRACTING COMPANIES THAT EXPORT A PRODUCT OR SERVICE, OR PRIMARY JOB, AS, AS THEY ARE DEFINED. THE SPECIFIC SITE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS AN EXISTING FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, ORIGINALLY BUILT AS A TOYS "R" US DISTRIBUTION FACILITY OUT IN RAILPORT. THE FACILITY HAS RAIL GRADE, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSE FACILITY, A VERY STRONG BUILDING IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY.

HERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THAT FACILITY. THE, THE BUILDING WAS SOLD FROM TOYS "R" US TO MALOOF DULUTH HAS VACATED THE BUILDING AS OF THE LAST YEAR AND A FEW MONTHS. THIS PROJECT WOULD

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SO QUICK COMMENT AS, AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE ESTABLISH THESE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS. THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT ESTABLISHES A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT MUST BE MET IN ORDER FOR THEM TO RECEIVE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT. IN THIS CASE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROVIDE AN ANNUAL GRANT, BUT IT HAS TO HAPPEN IN, IN MEETING THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. WE BUILD INTO THESE MINIMUM ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS OF 15% BUFFER, IN PART, FURTHER, WE GO OUT AND BRINGING A FACILITY ONLINE, SO WE ESTABLISH OMEGA NO, WITH THAT MINIMUM, WE DO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF A BASELINE. ADDITIONALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, IT, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO BRING IN A PROJECT THAT IS, IS A GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL PARTNER AS WELL. AND SO ASSOCIATED WITH THE INCENTIVE IS, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMPANY WERE TO GO THROUGH A MAJOR SOURCE, YOU KNOW, MISSION FROM IT, WITH TC Q, THAT THEY WOULD PREVENT ANY OF THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE AGREEMENT. SO WHAT IS PROPOSED, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MIDLOTHIAN DEVELOPING AUTHORITY, THERE ARE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AS FAR AS UPSIZING A NATURAL GAS LINE. AND SO MIDLOTHIAN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THEY WOULD HELP TO BRING THAT LINE. THAT LINE WOULD ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO ALL OF THE COMPANIES THAT NEED NATURAL GAS IN THE BUSINESS PARK. AS FAR AS THE ANNUAL GRANT THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED BY THE COMPANY, STARTING A YEAR FROM NOW, THE COMPANY , IF THEY MET THOSE MINIMUM ANNUAL PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RECEIVE A $500,000 GRANT EACH YEAR THAT THEY'RE OPERATIONAL. ANY COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT FOR A $2 MILLION TOTAL GRANT, YOU KNOW, AND IN PART, AS WE LOOK AT THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT, AGAIN, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE LOOK AT THAT DIRECT IMPACT.

IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT AS WE CHANGE THAT FACILITY FROM WAREHOUSE TO A MANUFACTURING FACILITY, WE ALSO SEE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT COME AS FAR AS HOW MUCH THOSE DOLLARS CYCLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SO IN PART, WE, WE HAVE THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT

ANYBODY HAS FROM THE COUNCIL? >> THANKS, KYLE. TAMMY --

COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? WAYNE? >> BACKUP TO THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE. SO JUST, FOR MY CLARITY, A TENURE BENEFIT, $500,000, FOUR YEARS TO THE -- IT'S NOT INCLUDING ANY KIND OF AN INCENTIVE WITH TAX REBATE OR ANYTHING MAJOR?

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>> SO, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN, IN EVALUATING THE 10 YEAR BENEFIT, WE'VE MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE NATURAL GAS EXPENSE, AS WELL, WILL COST ROUGHLY ABOUT $4.4 MILLION. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE, WE ALLOCATE AND WE TIE THAT IN. AND SO WHEN YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT 10 YEAR VALUE TO MIDLOTHIAN, WE'RE INCLUDING THAT AS A, AS A COST, EVEN THOUGH, WHEN WE LOOK AT JUST THE CITY'S TAX REVENUE, NOW, A PORTION OF THIS DOES GO TO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE RAIL DISTRICT, THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE $6.6 MILLION IN TAXABLE VALUE. AT A

MINIMUM. >> AND AD VALOREM TAXES, THOSE

KINDS OF THINGS, WHAT, WHAT -- >> THERE'S ONLY, ONLY AD VALOREM TAX, THERE'S NO SALES TAX.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. ARE THEY AN EXPORT GROUP? I MEAN, THEY'RE MANUFACTURING AND TOTALLY

EXPLORED? >> CORRECT.

>> THE SALES -- >> THEY'LL SELL IT ALL OVER.

>> OKAY. >> ROSS?

>> SO THE $6.6 MILLION IS TAXABLE REVENUE --

>> CORRECT. REVENUE, REVENUE ACTUALLY RECEIVED. DIRECTS

REVENUE THAT'S RECEIVED. >> OKAY. SO IN LOOKING AT THE CHART, YOU KNOW, FOR MINIMUM PERFORMANCE CRITERIA -- CURRENT TAXABLE VALUE IS $53 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE.

>> CORRECT. >> AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A, $180 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN

THE PROJECT. >> SO IT, IN PART, PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY PURCHASE AND THEN THEY'LL GO THROUGH AND THEY'LL RENOVATE UP TO SOME OF THE, THE FACILITY AS WELL. AND SO SOME OF THE, THE VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS THE PURCHASE OF THE FACILITY.

>> SO IT WOULD BE THE PURCHASE AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

>> CORRECT. >> AND -- CAPITAL -- GETTING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, ROLLING STOCK, ALL OF IT, INTO PLACE.

OKAY. BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO RECONCILE THE $118 MILLION INVESTMENT TO, YOU KNOW, AN $86 MILLION TAXABLE VALUE. SO THE, THE REMAINDER OF THAT IS GOING TO BE IN BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, INVENTORY, ROLLING STOCK --

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY. SO WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR FOR THE CITY'S STANDPOINT, WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING IS -- RECEIVING THE GRANT FUNDS -- INCREASE THE AD VALOREM BASE OF THE BUILDING BY ROUGHLY $30 MILLION.

>> FROM, FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS.

>> FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS. >> INTERESTING, IN LOOKING AT THAT TAX VALUE, IT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S ALMOST DOUBLED AS OF THIS YEAR. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS, IN PUTTING IN PLACE AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS, AS WE AND SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT VALUE STAYS IN PLACE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND, TO A PREVIOUS YEAR, AND THEN IT LOCKS

IN THAT THEY SMELL YOU. >> OKAY. YEAR TWO, IT'S GOT TO

GO UP TO $82 MILLION. >> CORRECT.

>> RIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WAS TAXED IN 2024, BECAUSE THOSE VALUES ARE CERTIFIED --

>> YUP. >> SO THE, THE DELTA BETWEEN THAT IS APPROXIMATELY $30 MILLION.

>> CORRECT. >> AND WHAT IS THE, THE TAX REVENUE FOR MIDLOTHIAN ON $30 MILLION? $0.65? THAT'S, I MEAN, I'M CALCULATING IT AT ROUGHLY $200,000. CHRIS, DOUBLE CHECK ME

ON THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE -- >> CLOSE TO ABOUT 300,000.

>> 300,000 A YEAR? I MAY HAVE MISSED THEY DID IT IN THERE.

>> $250,000 A YEAR. >> YEAH. FOR, FOR 35 MILLION?

>> YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING, SO I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE UP OF $6.6 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE.

DOES THAT ENCOURAGE -- INCLUDE THE CURRENT BASE VALUATION

THAT'S THERE? >> IT DOES. SO IN PART, ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE LOOK AT, AS FAR AS THE INCENTIVE VALUES THAT ARE PUT OUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE DECISIONS THAT THE BOARD HAD TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS, AS FAR AS BEING A, AN EXISTING FACILITY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO, TO MAKE THE DECISION OF, YOU KNOW, IS THERE VALUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN TO SOME OF THAT EXISTING VALUE? AND, YOU KNOW, FRIENDLY, IT WAS DECIDED AND DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE SOME OF THAT. AS WE RAN THE, THE MODEL BOTH WAYS, IF WE TOOK OUT THE EXISTING VALUES, SO TYPICALLY OUR INCENTIVES ARE COMING YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 2% TO 8% OF THAT TAXABLE VALUE. SO IN PART, WITH THE TAXABLE VALUE, IF AT 5.8, OR 5.4% WITH THAT, AND ALSO THE CREDIT FOR THE NATURAL GAS. IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE BASE VALUE OF THE, THE NEW VALUE, RIGHT, SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THAT NEW VALUE, IT WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE OF

1.6%. >> SO WE'RE STILL WITHIN THOSE

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>> I 100% AGREE WITH YOUR, YOUR -- ON THAT, AND I KNOW THEY ADHERE TO YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE STATED OPERATING PROCEDURES. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHERE THE 6.6 MILLION COME FROM? IS THAT THE BIG BRIGHT NUMBER ON THAT SLIDE. SO WHAT, WHAT FACTORED INTO, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO CREATE $6.6 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE OVER THAT 10 YEARS? THAT'S $660,000 A YEAR.

>> SO THE, THE NUMBER, SO THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE LOOKS AT THE TOTAL REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED FROM THAT FACILITY. SO THIS IS NOT THE NEW REVENUE. THIS IS TOTAL REVENUE THAT'S RECEIVED.

>> OKAY. AND SO WHAT IS THE REVENUE THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE IF IT WAS JUST BEING TAXED AS IT SITS TODAY, OVER THE SAME PERIOD? I'M TRYING TO GET THE DELTA HERE.

>> I GOTCHA. I'M GOING TO CALCULATE IT ON THE SPOT.

>> YEAH, GO FOR IT. THERE

>> YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT ROUGHLY ABOUT HALF.

>> OKAY. SO CALL IT $3.3 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE FEEL IS GENERATED FROM THIS GRANT, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF

THE GAS LINE. >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. >> WAYNE, DO YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, JUST OBSERVATION, AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF SERVING -- I DON'T RECALL, MAYBE ON ONE HAND, A GROUP COMING IN THAT WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO GET UP TO ABOUT 400 EMPLOYEES. SO ICING ON THE CAKE WOULD BE THOSE SAME EMPLOYEES, SOME OF THEM WOULD BE BUYING HERE, LIVING HERE, RENTING HERE, GOING TO, OUT TO EAT, BEING A PART, YOU KNOW, GOING TO ALL THE PARKS. THOSE ARE ALL BENEFITS OF, AS I SEE, THE ICING ON THE CAKE. SALES TAX, AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS. BUT I CAN'T RECALL VERY MANY, THROUGH THE YEARS, BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT A ONE-TIME GROUP HAVING THAT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING ARE GOING TO BE PART OF OUR, OUR --

>> CORRECT. YOU KNOW, SO IN PART, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE VALUE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, LARGE NUMBER OF, OF JOBS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MORE JOBS, THAT'S WHERE THE CHALLENGES OF THE AVERAGE WAGE BEING, YOU KNOW, EXCEEDING THE COUNTY AVERAGE WAGE. YOU KNOW, AND IN PART, SO OFTEN WE ONLY LOOK AT THE DIRECT IMPACTS OF A PROJECT AS WE START TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, LARGER NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, WE START TO SEE A BIGGER MULTIPLIER INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, AS EMPLOYEES RECEIVE THEIR PAYCHECK, THEY BUY HOUSES, THEY GO SHOPPING, THEY GO OUT TO EAT, AND, AND SO WE BEGIN SEEING MORE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD RECOGNIZED THE VALUE OF CONVERTING THAT FACILITY FROM A WAREHOUSE FACILITY INTO A MANUFACTURING FACILITY, AND WANTING TO PUT FORWARD THIS PROPOSAL, IN PART, TO ENTICE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMPANY TO LOCATE AT THIS FACILITY, AND IT BEING A, A BETTER USE THAN HAVING ANOTHER WAREHOUSE USER REOCCUPY THE

SPACE. >> I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY, TOO, ON THE 4.4 MILLION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH MDA WAS, YES, TO GET THAT GAS LINE IS IMMEDIATELY AFFECTING THIS. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IT, THERE'S SOME POSSIBLE EXPANSION OF SOME EXISTING FACILITIES, AND ALSO SOME OTHER PROSPECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO WHILE WE ARE SIGNING THIS -- FIND THIS WHOLE 4.4 TO THIS PROJECT, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IT FROM A BIGGER SCOPE OF THE RAILPORT INDUSTRIAL PARK AND NOT JUST THIS ONE USE.

>> SO IT WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY THAT WOULD ALLOW OTHER USERS TO TIE INTO THAT LINE.

>> RIGHT. THERE'S ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT THEY COULD NOT EXTEND THAT THEY WANT TO EXPAND, THEY CAN'T EXPAND UNTIL WE GET MORE NATURAL GAS. SO, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER GREENFIELD PROJECT THAT IS POTENTIAL, NOT SAYING IT'S HAPPENING, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT OUT THERE THAT ALSO WOULD BE LOOKING AT GAS. SO WE HAVE TO, OR WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE ARE CHOOSING TO UPGRADE THAT, THAT FACILITY, LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE RAILPORT PARK, NOT JUST ONE BUSINESS. BUT THIS IS, OBVIOUSLY

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ADDRESS WITH THAT EXPANSION. >> SO THE EXPANSION OF THAT LINE WILL BENEFIT ADDITIONAL TRACKS BEYOND JUST THE USER.

>> RIGHT. THE LINE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PARK THAT WAS PUT THERE ORIGINALLY IS, IS AT CAPACITY. SO THIS WAS JUST KIND OF THE ONE THAT IS DRIVING THE NEED TO EXPAND THE, THE SIZE OF

THE PIPELINE. >> I BELIEVE THE LARGER GAS FACILITY THAT'S OUT THERE IS -- WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED --

>> THE CURRENT LINE THAT RUNS DOWN RAILPORT PARK --

>> ALSO THE -- NEXT OUT. >> IT ALL GOES BACK TO THAT LINE, AND THAT LINE NEEDS TO BE UPSIDE TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL

CAPACITY IN THAT AREA. >> OKAY. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVE AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOSHER APPROVED -- SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS. PLEASE

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> ALL RIGHT, IT IS A: 58. WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION. THERE IS ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON NUMBER 2 ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS SECTION 551.072, REAL ESTATE, DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. COUNCILWOMAN

HAMMONDS HAS A MOTION. >> I MOVE THAT THE CITY -- BE AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH RICKY P AND SHAWNA MARIE COLVIN TO PURCHASE A .163 ACRE TRACT OF LAND FOR A PUBLIC STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY AND GENERAL UTILITY EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN THE JOHN H JONES SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 586, AND BEING A PORTION OF TRACT 47, SHALLOW CREEK ESTATES, PHASE THREE . CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, IN CONSIDERING SHOULD HAVE A PURCHASE PRICE OF $47,500 IN ASSOCIATION WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE MCALPIN ROAD ROADWAY PROJECT, PLUS PAYMENT OF ALL RELATED CLOSING COSTS. THE CITY MANAGER IS FURTHER AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY SUCH ADDITIONAL CLOSING DOCUMENTS AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY SUCH AGREEMENT IN THE TITLE COMPANY AS NECESSARY TO CLOSE

ITS TRANSACTION. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A, FROM COUNCILMAN HAMMONDS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS.

PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 7-0. THANK YOU. WE ALSO, ON THE SAME AGENDA ITEM, HAVE A MOTION TO BE MADE BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> I MOVE AT THE CITY MANOR BE AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH -- TO PURCHASE A .157 ACRE TRACT OF LAND FOR PUBLIC STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY AND GENERAL UTILITY EASEMENT, LOCATED WITHIN THE JOHN H JONES SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 586 AND MARTHA BURNS SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 43 AND, AND BEING A PORTION OF TRACT 43, SHALLOW CREEK ESTATES PHASE FOUR CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS IN CONSIDERATION OF A PURCHASE PRICE OF $25,642.50 IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MCALPIN ROADWAY PROJECT, PLUS THE PAYMENT OF ALL RELATED CLOSING COSTS. CITY MANAGERS FURTHER AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE ON BEHALF OF OF THE CITY SUCH ADDITIONAL CLOSING DOCUMENTS AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY SUCH AGREEMENT IN THE TITLE COMPANY AS NECESSARY TO CLOSE THIS TRANSACTION.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO REPEAT THE MOTION.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7-0.

THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON LEGAL CONSULTATION WITH WALTER DARRACH VERSUS CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, NOR IS THERE ACTION

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