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PLEASE STAND BY FOR REALTIME CAPTIONS.
>> I WILL CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER AND FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WE DO HAVE FULL MEMBERS AND WE WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBERS. TO THE COMMISSION. GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. NEXT ITEM IS 001 CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION INVITES MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC NOT INCLUDED FOR CONVERSATION FOR ACTION ON THIS AGENDA AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY STAFF PRIOR TO THE MEETING. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE COMMISSION CANNOT ACT ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T THINK WE
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HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR THE AGENDA ITEM, CORRECT? WE WILL MOVE NEXT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA 004 CONSIDER THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING DATED FEBRUARY 18 OF 2025. OH, OKAY? WE WILL COME BACK, LET'S GET THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I WILL GET THAT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES FOR THEMINUTES? >> MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> MOTION AND SECONDED TO APPROVE, SENATE , AGENDA, ANY
[002 Staff review of the cases that were heard by City Council in the last sixty (60) days. ]
OPPOSED? UNANIMOUSLY MOVE BACK TO 002, STAFF REVIEW THE CASES THAT WERE HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.>> COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY WITH THE AUDIO SO, WHEN YOU SPEAK, SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND MAYBE THAT LESS.
AT A MARCH 11 COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WERE THREE CASES THAT WERE HEARD. ASHFORD ESTATES WAS CONTINUED TO THE MARCH 25 CITY COUNCIL MEETING BY A VOTE OF 4-0. THE SEAGRAVES ADDITION WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL 4-0 WITH SOME CHANGES. AND THE FOSTER DEVELOPMENT WAS CONTINUED TO MARCH 25 CITY COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL. BY VOTE OF 4-0. ANY QUESTIONS?
[006 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance relating to the use and development of Lots 22, 23, and 24, Unit 2 of Oak Hollow Estates, being 4401, 4405, and 4409 Oak Hollow Drive, respectively, by changing the zoning from Agricultural (A) District to Single Family Two (SF-2) District. (Z04-2025-005) ]
>> OKAY, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 006, EXCUSE ME, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE USE AND OF ELEMENT OF LOT 22, 23 AND 24, UNIT TWO OF OAK HOLLOW STATES BEING 4401, 4405 , AND 4409 OAK HOLLOW DRIVE RESPECTIVELY BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL A DISTRICT TO SINGLE-FAMILY TWO. DISTRICT.
>> I WILL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM 006. WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE REZONE OF 4401, 4405 AND 449, OAK HOLLOW OF OCALA ESTATES INTO A SINGLE-FAMILY TWO DISTRICT. SO, THIS IS AN ALREADY EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ALTOGETHER, ALL THREE PROPERTIES EQUAL ABOUT HER NECK SPECIFICALLY 4.03 ACRES. ON EACH PROPERTY THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SHOWS IT AS COUNTRY MODULE WHICH IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE THREE PROPERTIES THERE.
WITH THE RED AND ORANGE LINES. AND THEN HERE IS THE COMPARISON CHART BETWEEN AGRICULTURAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY TWO SO ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE ARE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND AGRICULTURAL CURRENT ZONING AND THEY ARE ALL THE STANDARDS EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEN A SINGLE-FAMILY TWO PROPOSED ZONING. AS YOU CAN TELL, FROM ALL THE BOLD, 4401, 445 AND 4409 ALL MEET THE SINGLE-FAMILY TWO REQUIREMENTS. AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT ON THERE. AND THEN, WE DID SEND OUT A TOTAL OF 21 LETTERS WITH 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE. AS OF NOW STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE WITHIN THOSE LETTERS FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SINCE IT ALLOWS THE PROPERTIES TO MEET MORE CLOSELY WITH THOSE SF TWO REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN HERE IS THE SURVEY FROM 4401, THE SURVEY FROM 4405. THE SURVEY FOR 4409. AND THEN THE ORIGINAL REASON
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THAT THIS REZONE IS BROUGHT WAS MR. OLSON OF 4409 OAK HOLLOW IS WANTING TO ADD A THREE CAR GARAGE TO HIS HOUSE. BUT HE WAS NOT MEETING THE AGRICULTURAL SETBACK. SO.>> OKAY, QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK SO, DID WE MISS ANYBODY ON THAT? NO. OKAY, SURE. WHY DON'T YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE SIR SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHETHER YOU NOT LIVE IN THE CITY.
>> I MET 4409, THE REASON WHY I PRESENTED THIS WAS BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO ADD THE THREE-CAR GARAGE TO MY HOUSE AND THE SETBACKS WERE 25 FEET ON THE SIDE AND I WOULD BE AT 22 FEET WITH THE GARAGE EXTENSION SO WITH SF TWO STATUS IT ALLOWS ME 15 FEET SIDE SETBACK AND THEN IT CONFORMS WITH WHAT I NEEDED, ALSO THE OTHER PARAMETERS ON THE SF-2 ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH WHAT MY PROPERTY ACTUALLY IS THEN THE AG STATUS THAT THEY HAD. THE OTHER TWO NEIGHBORS WERE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING AT THIS TIME BUT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND TAGGED ONTO MY APPLICATION AS THEY SAID WE COULD.
>> AND THERE'S PROBABLY AT LEAST A DOZEN NEIGHBORS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS BUT I WAS TOLD THE PETITION WAS NOT NECESSARY WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT. SO, WE WERE ANNEXED IN PROBABLY 10 YEARS AGO. UNDER THIS AG STATUS AND THERE'S ABOUT 50 HOMES AND I THINK 48 OF THEM ARE MORE IN LINE WITH SF 2. THERE'S ONLY TWO THAT ARE ONLY MORE THAN FOUR ACRES. SO OUT OF ALL OF IT, YOU KNOW 98% OF IT IS MORE IN LINE WITH SF-2. BUT, THAT WAS MY REASONING, SO.
>> OKAY, QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. DOES THE APPLICANT PRESENT WISH TO SPEAK? YOU ARE THE APPLICANT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WE MISSED? OKAY. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
CLOSE. >> MOTION AND SECONDED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED . THE
FLOOR IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, AYE? ANY OPPOSED?
[007 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the zoning regulations relating to the development and use of 1.65+ acres out of the F.E. Witherspoon Survey, Abstract No. 1188 and located in the Community Retail (CR) and General Professional (GP) tract of Planned Development District No. 107 (PD-107); by granting a Specific Use Permit for a gasoline station with retail sales. The property is generally located at the southeast corner of FM 1387 and Onward Road. (SUP22-2024-134) ]
IT IS UNANIMOUS. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 007, CONDUCT A PUBLIC CONSIDERING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE OF 1.65+ OR MINUS ACRES OUT OF THE F.E WITHERSPOON SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 1188. LOCATED IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL AND GENERAL PROCESSIONAL TRACKED THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 107 BY GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR GASOLINE STATION WITH RETAIL SALES. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF FM 1387 ANDONWARD ROAD. >> OKAY. THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 107 AND THIS PARTICULAR TRACT IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL AND GENERAL PROFESSIONAL USES.
THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS FOR A GASOLINE STATION WITH RETAIL SALES. THE FEATURE LAND USE PLANT DESIGNATES THIS AS NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOCAL RETAIL. WHICH YOU KNOW, FITS WITH THIS TYPE OF REQUEST. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONE SINGLE-FAMILY FOUR. THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IS PART OF WRITTEN FARMS PD AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. TO THE EAST, IS PART OF THE SAME PD 107 BUT THAT IS ALSO LOCAL RETAIL. AND TO THE WEST, THE VACANT TRACKED ACROSS FROM ONWARD ROAD IS ALSO AND DEVELOPED AND DESIGNATED FOR LOCAL RETAIL. SO THE ACCESS FOR THE SITE THERE IS CROSS ACCESS TO THE COMMERCIAL PAD SITE THAT WILL BE LOCATED TO THE EAST. THERE IS BUFFERING ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL ALLEY TO THE SOUTH. THE ULTIMATE BUILDOUT
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WILL INCLUDE FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION FOR FM 1387 WHICH IS REFLECTED ON THE SITE PLAN. THERE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ON ONWARD ROAD AND THE PLAN TIES THEM INTO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WAYS AS WELL AS THE FUTURE SIDEWALKS. ON FM 13'S 87. FM 1387 IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL, 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. IT IS A TEXT.ROAD.ONWARD ROAD IS A MINOR ARTERIAL 90 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY ULTIMATELY THERE IS A PROPOSED MEDIAN AT THAT LOCATION WHERE THE DRIVE IS BUT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT HE REMAIN CLOSED TO REDUCE TRYING MOVEMENTS. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN INCLUDES MULTIPLE TYPES OF CANOPY TREES. THEY INCREASE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE SOUTH SIDE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL FROM 10 FEET TO 15 FEET. AND INCLUDED DENSE SHRUBS AND ACCENT TREES. THERE IS ONE VARIANCE FOR THE PROPERTY. ACTUALLY THERE IS TWO, I APOLOGIZE. ONE FOR THE PARKING. INSTEAD OF 13 SPACES, THEY WANT TO INCREASE UP TO 92%.
TO HAVE 25 SPACES AND THAT IS CONSISTENT FOR CONVENIENCE STORES. AND THEN THEY WOULD LIKE A VARIANCE TO THE SIGNED REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW TWO SIDES OF THE BUILDING TO HAVE SIGNAGE.
THE TWO SIDES ARE THE NORTH SIDE AND OKAY, THE ONE SIGN WILL BE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THE OTHER WILL BE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO THIS IS THE SIGNAGE AND IT WILL HAVE 711 ON THE FRONT. AND THEN THE LOGO ON THE SIDE. AND THE ELEVATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER 7/11'S IN THE CITY. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT TALL MASONARY SCREENING WALL ALONG THE ALLEY WAY. ANY LIGHT FIXTURES ON THE SITE WILL BE DIRECTED DOWNWARD. LANDSCAPE IS 25% OF THE SITE IT EXCEEDS REQUIREMENTS. WE SENT OUT 22 LETTERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE AND RECEIVED SIX OPPOSITION LETTERS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. ARE THERE
ANY QUESTIONS? >> QUESTIONS TO STAFF?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT IS EMMA WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND WHEN WRITTEN FARMS CAME THROUGH WITH
THEIR PD? >> THEY DID NOT DESIGNATE SPECIFIC USES SO THEY JUST SAID IT WAS A COMMUNITY RETAIL/GENERAL PROFESSIONAL TRACK SO ANY TYPE OF USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THOSE DISTRICTS WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT TRACT, UNLESS IT NEEDED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAN IT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU GUYS AS THIS IS NOW.
>> COMMUNITY RETAIL IS TYPICALLY LIKE IT 8 AM TO 5 PM OPERATION,
RIGHT? >> HOURS VARY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A SET TIME. WE DID NOT SET THE TIME FOR THE RETAIL.
>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND WISH TO SPEAK? PLEASE COME UP AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF IF YOU WOULD.
>> MY NAME IS MATTHEW SMITH, MY ADDRESS IS 110 MACON STREET SO THIS IS A CORPORATE STORE AND AS STATED THIS HAS BEEN RETAIL WITH THE PD WHICH IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN. THE OTHER PLAN STATES THAT MAJOR ARTERIAL AND MINOR ARTERIAL WHICH WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THIS POINT AS IT IS RETAIL ZONE. WE MET WITH TEXDOT ON-SITE IN VIRTUALLY TO COME UP WITH OUR ACCESS PLAN TO KEEP THE CENTER SECTION SAFE AS WELL IS TO KEEP TRAFFIC OFF OF WRITTEN, OFF OF ONWARD AS STATED THAT MEETING WILL REMAIN CLOSED.
AS WELL AS WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO RELOCATE ALL OF THE EASEMENTS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE 1387 WIDENING. THEN AS A REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCE, WE WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE A STUDY AT THIS INTERSECTION BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE OUR PLAN. SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
>> QUESTIONS? >> IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH
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TEXDOT, WHEN DID THEY TELL YOU THAT THEY WOULD DO THE LANDINGAT 1387? >> THEY NEVER STATED ACTUALLY.
BUT WE INCORPORATED AS YOU CAN SEE, WHERE IT SAYS THERE WAS ALREADY 20 FEET TAKEN ALREADY AND ADDITIONALLY THE ULTIMATE BUILDOUT WAS ALLOCATED SO, WE DO HAVE THE MOST RECENT SCHEMATICS, I DON'T KNOW WHEN EXACTLY. WHEN IT WILL BE DONE.
>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? >> SO, IF I AM LOOKING AT THIS MAP CORRECTLY, THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO THIS LOCATION WOULD BE
FROM ONWARD ROAD? >> NO, SO IF YOU CAN GO , SO AS YOU SEE THERE , WE WILL WIDEN 1387 FOUR TEXDOT STANDARDS AND THE MAIN ACCESS POINT WILL BE ON THE MAIN ACCESS POINT ON THE
COMMERCIAL DRIVE. >> SO YOU HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THAT LAND AS WELL? NOT JUST WHERE YOU ARE BUILDING ON THE END?
>> WE DO NOT OWN BUT WE ARE WORKING ON JUST THIS TRACT BUT WE ARE TALKING AND WORKING THROUGH IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF OUR PURCHASE TO HAVE THIS FULL CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT DONE.
BEFORE WE BEGIN. >> THIS IS ABOUT 400 FEET FROM
>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? >> MARY DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER AREA, DO WE KNOW OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS PENDING OR IN THE
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY.
>> DID TEXDOT INDICATE WHETHER THEY WOULD ALLOW A LIGHT AT THAT
INTERSECTION? >> THAT'S WHAT THE STUDY, YES.
SO THEY SAID THEY WOULD ALLOW IT IF THE STUDY WARDS SUPPORT AND WOULD YOU GUYS BE PAYING FOR THE LIGHT?
>> SINCE THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY THERE IT WOULD BE A PROPORTIONALITY MORE THAN LIKELY SO IT'S ALREADY NECESSARY,
TEXDOT WOULD. >> I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS INTERSECTION AND IT'S BAD. TODAY.
>> THERE IS NOT EVEN A RIGHT-HAND TURN LIGHT ON ONWARD.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THE INTERSECTION OR JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT INTERSECTION IS NOTORIOUSLY BEEN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. OVER THE YEARS. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MEASURES TO MAKE IT SAFER. WHICH I HAVE SEEN SOME POSITIVE FROM
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. >> ALSO LOOKING AT IF IT DOESN'T WANT A LIGHT, BUT MAYBE OTHER REQUIREMENTS LIKE THAT?
>> OKAY. >> I HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP LEE RAY. YOU WISH TO SPEAK? IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY, YOU HAVE THREE
MINUTES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS LEAH RAY, AND MY HUSBAND ROBERT AND MYSELF AND OUR TWO DAUGHTERS HER RESIDENCE AT READING FARMS, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL TODAY REGARDING THE PROPOSED GAS STATION. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.
AND WOULD LIKE TO OUTLINE SEVERAL REASONS WHY. IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. FIRST IS JUST ZONING AND LAND-USE INCOME PALATABILITY. FIRST AND FOREMOST THIS AREA IS RESIDENTIAL AND FOR GOOD REASON. THE GAS STATION IS A COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT BELONG IN A NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING. AND APPROVING THIS PROJECT WOULD SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR REZONING OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHICH COULD LEAD TO FURTHER COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT. IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE SECOND IS SAFETY AND HEALTH RISKS. THE ADDITION OF A GAS STATION WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC CONGESTION CREATING A HIGHER RISK OF ACCIDENTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, PEDESTRIANS AND CHILDREN. ADDITIONALLY GAS STATIONS RELEASE HARMFUL CHEMICALS. WHICH CAN CAUSE SERIOUS RESPIRATORY ISSUES AND LONG-TERM HEALTH EFFECTS PARTICULARLY FOR CHILDREN AND THE ELDERLY. FURTHERMORE THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE OF FUEL PRESENTS A SERIOUS RISK OF LEAKS. WHICH COULD HAVE LASTING ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES.
THIRD IS NOISE. AND LIGHT POLLUTION. GAS STATIONS ESPECIALLY IF OPEN LATE OR 24/7 BRING INCREASED NOISE FROM DELIVERY TRUCKS AND CARS AND CUSTOMERS, DISTURBING THE PEACE
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OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. FOURTH IS NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES. IT IS WELL-DOCUMENTED THAT GAS STATIONS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS NEGATIVELY IMPACT PROPERTY VALUES AND AS SOMEONE WHO JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE A YEAR AGO, AND HAS PAID OFF AND I AM VERY PROUD OF THAT, I REALLY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. AND FIFTH, ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR BUSINESSES LIKE STATIONS BUT THERE ARE MORE APPROPRIATE COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD AND WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. I AND MY FAMILY URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS THAT ALIGN BETTER WITH CITY PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATIONS. AND FINALLY, SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. THIS DOES NOT JUST AFFECT ME, IT AFFECTS ALL RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY AND SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I URGE THE COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF RESIDENTS WHO CHOOSE THIS COMMUNITY AS THEIR HOME. EXPECTING IT TO REMAIN A SAFE AND LIVABLE ENVIRONMENT. FOR THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS PROPOSAL BE DENIED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIMEAND CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT I HAVE VICTORIA ARELLANO. AS AN NON-SPEAKER. ARE THEY PRESENT? OKAY. LET THE RECORD SHOW THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION. I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP BEYOND THOSE TWO, WHAT IS THE NAME? HANG ON.
>> WE WILL LET YOU SPEAK BUT IF YOU WILL, BEFORE YOU LEAVE IF YOU WILL FILL OUT A FORM FOR US.
>> I FILLED IT OUT ONLINE. >> OKAY. OKAY. SO IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME SIR AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY, YOU
HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSION I AM ERIC BLAKE, 32 BURGUNDY LANE IN THE CITY, TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING IN MY ROLE AS A TWO-WAY PRESIDENT FOR MIDLOTHIAN ESTATES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS SUV. IF SEVERAL HOUSES THAT ARE DIRECTLY IN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER, I ALSO RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM A NUMBER OF HOA MEMBERS MOST OF WHOM ARE IN OPPOSITION, I AM THE ONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENCE IN LUMINAIRE STATES WILL BE AFFECTED BY ANY TRAFFIC CHANGES ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ALREADY SAID ONWARD ROAD AND FM 1387 IS A PROBLEMATIC AREA. THE ENTRANCE TO THE ESTATE IS TWO LANES, READING FARMS IS ONE LANE, YOU ADD TRAFFIC THERE ESPECIALLY A 24/7 GAS STATION IT WILL MAKE IT HARDER TO TURN IN OUT OF THE ESTATES. THE TEXDOT WIDENING PLAN IS CUTTING OFF THE ROAD FROM LESTER AND ACCESS WAS THAT IS OUR ONLY OTHER ACCESS SO IT WILL BECOME BUSIER AS THINGS GET WIDENED. WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC IF WE DON'T HAVE A LIGHT THIS WILL MAKE IT REALLY HARD FOR THE NEIGHBORS ON THE NORTH. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN REQUIRE A LIGHT, THAT IS TEXDOT'S PROBLEM, I AM GLAD YOU SPOKE TO IT ALREADY. BUT, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT. SEVERAL HOA RESIDENTS POINTED OUT THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS A GAS STATION APPROVED ABOUT A HALF-MILE EAST AT THE INTERSECTION OF WALNUT GROVE AND FM 1387 AT THE TOM THUMB DEVELOPMENT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO GAS STATION SO CLOSE ESPECIALLY WHEN THE TOM THUMB IS OBVIOUSLY MORE COMMERCIAL? I DID SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR TRACT WAS ZONED FOR BUSINESS. BUT DIDN'T SAY WHAT TYPE. BUT THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOCAL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T 4:51 PM OR LEGAL SERVICES OR MOM-AND-POP SHOPS THAT ARE SHORT HOURS. VERSUS A GAS STATION IS 24/7 AND WHEN THEY ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING STALLS THAT MEANS THEY ARE EXPECTING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO BE ADDING A GAS STATION WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT TO EVEN HEALTH. THERE IS ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, SEVERAL RESIDENTS COMPLAINED WHY ARE THEY BUILDING IS THERE RISK THAT THE TANKS, YOU DON'T GET A TANK WITH AN ORDINARY HAIR SALON, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AT THE GAS STATION. BASICALLY, MOST OF MY RESIDENCE WERE OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA AND MY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT HERE, I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVING OR REJECTION OF THIS REQUEST WAIT UNTIL A LATER DATE. BEFORE YOU APPROVE THE SU P AND THEY CONSIDER THE
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ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>> THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, DID WE MISS ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOVE , MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AND HE OPPOSED, IT IS UNANIMOUS. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION.
>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT ONE MORE TIME?
>> SURE. YOU LOOK FAMILIAR, I THINK YOU CAME AND SPOKE FOR THE
THIRD 711 OUT ON 27. >> I WASN'T.
>> WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE SITE, SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PLOTS THAT ARE DOWN BY HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL. CLOSER TO WALNUT GROVE. WERE THOSE SITES CONSIDERED?
>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THOSE. HERITAGE.
>> SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD, YES. >> YOU CAN'T BE WITHIN 300 FEET OF A SCHOOL TO HAVE A GAS STATION. THAT IS THE LAW.
>> NOT THE GAS STATION BUT THE ALCOHOL SALES.
>> YES. >> OKAY, SO WHAT MADE THIS PARTICULAR SITE, WHY DID YOU PICK THIS SITE?
>> BECAUSE OF THE PLAN, THE TEXDOT WIDENING. IT IS GOING TO BECOME A GOOD OR WELL TRAFFIC INTERSECTION WITH IMPROVEMENTS.
THE RESIDENTIAL PROVIDING SERVICES ON THE WAY TO GRAB FOOD, COFFEE WHATEVER YOU NEED, GAS AND GO ON YOUR WAY. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN TALKS OF THE GAS STATION THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OFFERING, THEY DON'T HAVE THE AS EXPENSIVE OFFERINGS IN THEIR STORE, IT'S MAINLY JUST DRINKS IN THERE AND GAS.
SO, THIS IS SEEN AS A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE FOR THE RESIDENCE TO BE CONVENIENT AND GET ALONG WITH YOUR DAY, WHETHER IT BE IN THE MORNING OR AFTERNOON.
>> ARE YOU WITH 7-ELEVEN ? >> I'M JUST THE DEVELOPER.
>> JUST THE DEVELOPER, OKAY, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION FOR
YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> I WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THIS, CROSSED IN THE PACKET, THE FIRST THING THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS THE PROXIMITY TO THE S CURVE WHICH HAS NOTORIOUSLY BE , BEEN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. SECOND IS THE OTHER SEVEN 11'S THAT ARE EXISTING IN THAT WE HAVE APPROVED, ARE NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT ABUTTING TO RESIDENTIAL HOUSES. THE ONE THAT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE LEFT HAND BY KROGER, DOES HAVE RESIDENCE RIGHT BEHIND IT, WHERE THOSE DUMPSTERS ARE WITHIN 20 FEET OF THOSE PEOPLE'S HOMES. THIS WOULD BE THE SAME WAY. EXCEPT THIS ONE HAS RESIDENCE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT AS WELL. I JUST DON'T SEE IT AS A GOOD LOCATION. I HAVE CONCERNS. I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE TRAFFIC OF ONWARD. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. >> I THINK MY ONLY COMMENT FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMERCIAL WOULD BE THAT THE NATURE OF THE QUICK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LOTS OF IN AND OUT QUICK PATRONS. NOT A LONGER DURATION PER PATRON AND WITH THE PROXIMITY TO THAT S CURVE IN THIS INTERSECTION, I THINK IT'S TOO CLOSE.
>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO
DENY. THIS ACTION ITEM. >> MOTION , IS THERE A SECOND?
>> I WILL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTION? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY, OKAY.
[008 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance relating to the use and development of 167.3+ acres in the Allen Reeves Survey, Abstract No. 939, and H. Woodward Survey, Abstract No. 1131, by changing the zoning from Agricultural (A) District to Planned Development No. 186 (PD-186) for a data center subject to development regulations; and Light Industrial (LI) District uses. The property is generally located at the southeast corner of Gifco Road and Quarry Road. (Z30-2024-131) ]
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MOVING TO ITEM 008. THIS ONE , CONTINUING, WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND THEN CONTINUE IT SO, THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING 4008. LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ IT IN THE RECORD, CONSIDER THE SIN OF ELEMENT OF 167.3 ACRES IN THE ALAN REEVES SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 939 AND H WOODWARD SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1131 BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A DATA CENTER SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT USES. PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GIFCO ROAD AND QUARRY ROAD. AT THIS TIME ENTERTAINING A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS CASE UNTIL THEAPRIL LEAVE? >> MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL THE
APRIL MEETING. >> MOTION AND A SECOND, TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TO THE APRIL MEETING ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[009 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance relating to the use and development of 448.38+ acres in the Allen Reeves Survey, Abstract No. 939, John Chamblee Survey, Abstract No. 192, J.B. Littlepage Survey, Abstract No. 643, and the M.E.P. & P. Railroad Survey, Abstract No. 761, by changing the zoning from Planned Development No. 49 (PD-49), Residential R-2.5 (R-2.5), and Residential R-3 (R-3), to a Planned Development District for Single Family Four (SF-4), Community Retail (CR) and/or Multi-Family (MF) subject to development regulations. The property is generally located north of US Highway 287, west of State Highway 67, and south of Auger Road. (Z02-2025-002) ]
ANY OPPOSED? IT IS UNANIMOUS. MOVING TO ITEM 009. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF HUNDRED 48.38 ACRES IN THE ALAN REEVES SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 939 JOHN CHAMBER LEASE SURVEY.ABSTRACT 192 JB LITTLE PAGE SURVEY. ABSTRACT 643 IN THE MEP AND P RAILROAD SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 761 BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 49 RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL 2.5 AND RESIDENTIAL THREE TO PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY FOUR COMMUNITY RETAIL. AND/OR MULTI FAMILY SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF U.S. HIGHWAY 287 WEST OF STATE HIGHWAY 67 AND SOUTH OF AUGER ROAD.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSION. THIS EVENING WE WILL BE HEARING REQUESTS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 450 ACRES TO THE CHAIRMAN'S POINT IS NORTH WEST OF MIDLOTHIAN CLOSE TO OVERLOOK ESTATES BETWEEN OVERLOOK ESTATES AND MADERA LAKE, THIS IS AND HAS BEEN ZONED THE PARCEL ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE DIVIDED REDLINE. AND YES, YOU CAN SEE THIS, THE STUFF ON THE RIGHT WAS ZONED 2.5 AND R-THREE. THE DISTRICTS AND THOSE ARE OBSOLETE ZONING DISTRICTS I THINK THOSE WERE 11,000 SQUARE-FOOT AND 8000 SQUARE PUT LOTS. AND THEN THE AREA TO THE LEFT IS ZONED AND IT WAS IS PD 49 IT'S AN OLD ZONING DISTRICT AND IT WAS SINGLE-FAMILY AND MIXED USED COMMERCIAL, ETC. ON THAT AREA, THE PROPOSED ZONING'S FOR ABOUT 1700 OR 1071 HOMES, IS FOR SF FOUR COMMUNITY RETAIL AND MULTIFAMILY USES, THERE ARE SEVEN DIFFERENT LOT SIZES IN THIS AREA ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS A COMBINATION OF THE LOW DENSITY AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THAT DOES AMOUNT TO ABOUT THREE TO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, DENSITY FOR THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT 3.4 GLOWING UNITS PER ACRE AND THAT IS AND THAT OF THE MULTIUSER MIXED USED AND FLOODPLAIN AREA. THE DENSITY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THERE HAVE BEEN ONGOING MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL AND CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF SINCE APPROXIMATELY MARCH 13. OF LAST YEAR. THERE WAS A COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON DECEMBER 20 OF THIS PAST YEAR, THAT THEY DISCUSSED THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE COUNCIL REALLY WANTED THEM TO KEEP IT AT 3.4 GOING IN PER ACRE AND THEN REALLY EMPHASIZED THE LARGER LOTS ALONG THE CREEKS AND THOROUGH BEARS. SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL OR ONE MAIN THOROUGHFARE THROUGH HERE, IT IS THE CAPITAL A TYPE THOROUGHFARE WHICH IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR COMING OFF A 67 AND YOU CAN SEE THE CURSOR, FOLLOW THE CURSOR COME THROUGH HERE, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE IS THE HOUSING, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT THE HOUSING BUTTING UP ALONG THE THOROUGHFARE. SO WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING ARE SEVERAL MUSE AND THOSE ARE KIND OF JUST THESE OFFSET ROADS THAT THE HOUSES WILL FRONT ON THOSE AND THEY WILL HAVE A GREATER BUFFER ALONG THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND YOU WON'T SEE THE BACKS OF HOUSES LIKE THEY DO ON A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.
THAT IS THE THOROUGHFARE A AND THEN IT WILL ALSO CONNECT THE CHAPEL CREEK DRIVE WHICH IS THROUGH OVERLOOK ESTATES AND THAT IS A WHITER DRIVE. I THINK THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON CHAPEL CREEK
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THROUGH HERE IS ABOUT 60 FEET. SO, THAT WILL GO OUT TO OVERLOOK. THE INTERSECTION OF OVERLOOK AND 67TH AND THIS WILL GO DIRECTLY TO 67 THEREFORE, GOING DOWN THE MAIN STREET AND THAT WOULD BE HOW YOU WOULD EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. LIKE I SAID THERE ARE SEVEN DIFFERENT LOT SIZES AND TYPE B IS 40 FOOT, TYPE C IS 45, E IS 60 FOOT AND TYPE F IS 70 FOOT. TYPE G IS 85.AND A HIKING TRAIL, THIS IS A GAS PIPELINE. WHERE YOU SEE THIS RED TRAIL GOING THROUGH, AND OFFSET ON THAT, I'M SORRY? THE 50 FEET THERE IS A 50 FOOT EASEMENT BUT IS 100 OR 200 FOOT SO THERE IS A 50 FEET EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG THE GAS LINE BUT THE GREEN BELT THROUGH HERE IS 200 FEET. THESE ARE THE AMENITY AREAS SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EARLIER IS JUST THIS KIND OF PHASE 1 HERE BUT THIS IS THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AND YOU CAN SEE AREA A, B, C, D, E AND F. WHAT I WILL CONCENTRATE ON THE AMENITIES THAT WILL BE BUILT IN PHASE I AND PHASE 2 TO PHASE 2 IS NORTHWEST OF PHASE 1. THERE YOU HAVE A MIX OF 45 AND 80 FOOT WIDE LOTS. SO TYPE C, D, E, F AND G. CONNECTING APPEAR IN THE CORNER, WE HAVE AUGER ROAD CLOSE TO OUR WATER PLANT, AND THE TRA WASTEWATER PLANT. AND THEN THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS AS YOU SEE WILL EXTEND TO THE NORTHWEST. AND THEN ALSO ENVELOP WITHIN THIS FLOODPLAIN AREA. SO THIS IS THE PHASE 2 LINE. THIS DARK LINE AND THAT ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF THE FLOODPLAIN THAT WILL ALSO ENCOMPASS AMENITIES THAT ARE THE TRAILS. OH, I'M SORRY. SO PHASE 3 WHICH WILL BE TO THE WEST OF HERE WILL BE A MIX OF 30 AND 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS, TYPES A, B AND D. THE MIXED USED TRUCK WOULD COME BACK FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT A LATER POINT. THEY ARE BEGINNING WITH PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 SO ALL THE STUFF ON THE EAST WE MADE A REQUEST OF THE DEVELOPER AT THE VERY BEGINNING THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES Nā OT COME OUT ONTO 287 AT THIS POINT SO, THAT, THEY WILL NOT MAKE THE EXTENSION TO 287 UNTIL PHASE 3.
SO THIS IS ALL ENCOMPASSING THE TRACK SO YOU HAVE ONCE AGAIN PHASE 1 TO THE EAST, PHASE 2 TO THE NORTHWEST OF THAT AND THEN PHASE 3 IS OVER HERE AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DELINEATING LINE THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER HERE. AND THEN THE PHASE 1 DELINEATING LINE IS RIGHT HERE. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE AMENITIES, AMENITY I THINK IT IS WHAT IS IT, I THINK IT IS C, D AND E ARE ALL WITHIN PHASE 1. SO COMING OFF OF 67 AND THEN CHAPEL HILL AS WELL. SO THERE'S 20% OPEN SPACE WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WITHOUT THE FLOODPLAIN, THAT IS EXCEEDING THE 5% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT AND THERE IS TRAILS AND WORKOUT STATIONS AND PAVILIONS, INVENTIONS, SPORTS COURTS.
THOROUGHFARES, THE NEW AND SLIP STREET AND THEY WILL BUILD A BRIDGE ACROSS TO THIS LARGE DRAINAGE AREA RIGHT HERE.
ENHANCE ENTRYWAYS WITH LANDSCAPING STONEBROOK ENTRY FEATURES DOWN HERE THAT YOU SEE AND THE SKIPPING PLAN WITH PAPER LOCK CROSSINGS, NO STUBS, DECORATIVE LIGHTING AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. SO THIS IS AMENITY C , AREA C AND THAT IS DOWN HERE, KIND OF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY TO THE DEVELOPMENT, WITHIN THIS IT WILL BE A FULL PLAYGROUND AREA, SPORT COURT AND THEN A PARKING FOR THE RESIDENCES. THIS IS AREA D SPORTS COURTS WHICH IS KIND OF CLOSER OVER TO 67 OR CHAPEL HILL. AND THEN THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER PLAYGROUND AREA THAT IS CLOSER TO CHAPEL HILL DRIVE AS WELL AS WELL AS THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED ON STREET PARALLEL PARKING IN THIS AREA. SO HERE WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT PHASES. HERE YOU HAVE A 25 ACRE PARK DEDICATION OF PHASE 1, PHASE 2 I THINK IS ABOUT 83 ACRE PARK DEDICATION. AND THEN A 44 ACRE PARK DEDICATION IN PHASE 3. SO THE PD ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY OF LOT SIZES SO FOR TYPE A THAT'S A 30 FOOT WIDE NO MORE THAN 145 TYPE B WHICH IS A 40 FOOT WIDE NO MORE THAN 200. TYPE C 45 FOOT WIDE. NO MORE THAN 160 AND TYPE D 50 FOOT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 315, TYPE E IS 60 FOOT WIDE WOULD BE NO FEWER THAN 175.
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TYPE F, 70 FOOT NO FEWER THAN 55 SPOTS AND THEN TYPE G, 80 FOOT WIDE NO FEWER THAN 50. SO WE DO HAVE A MAXIMUM NUMBER ON THIS LOT AS WELL AS A MINIMUM NUMBER ON THE LARGER LOTS. TYPE A'S MAY BE CONVERTED TO THE TYPE B'S, MAXIMUM AND ETC., AND THERE IS A DESIGN THEME TEXAS RANCH WITH DESIGN FEATURES ON ENTRY FEATURE, ETC. SO THESE ARE THE MINIMUM LOT AREAS ON THOSE, THE WIDTH OF THE LOTS, SO IT GOES FROM 3000 SQUARE FEET ON UP TO 8800 SQUARE FEET. THE HOUSE SIZE IS 1500 SQUARE FEET. AND THAT IS AIR-CONDITIONED SPACE SO ANY THE GARAGES WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT. GOING DOWN TO 1000 SQUARE HUNDRED , 1650 FEET UP TO 1800 FEET AND THEN ONCE AGAIN THOSE ARE EXCLUDING THE GARAGE SIZE. SO TYPE A LOTS ARE CLOSER TO PHASE 3 AND GARAGES, THE SETBACK IS 20 FEET. THE INTERIOR SIDE YARDS ARE ZERO ON ONE SIDE, SIX ON THE OTHER AND THEREFORE YOU HAVE A ZERO LOT LINE ESSENTIALLY. AND IN THE FRONT BACK, SETBACK IS A FIVE FOOT MINIMUM AND THESE ALL ARE SERVED BY REAR ENTRY GARAGES.AND THEN THE AIR-CONDITIONED SPACES 1500 SQUARE FOOT, GARAGES 342. MINIMUM SIZE ON THE GARAGE IS 18 BY 19. AND THEN ONE ORNAMENTAL AND 12 SHRUGS FOR EACH TYPE A LOT. AND THE MIXED-USE TRACT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THESE THREE PHASES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. DETAILED SITE PLAN WILL COME BACK TO YOU AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE MIXED-USE TRACT. AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE WHICH WOULD BE IN THE MIXED-USE TRACK WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND NO MORE THAN 15 MULTIFAMILY UNITS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THAT AREA.
THESE ARE THE ANTI-MONOTONY AS WELL AS THE TYPICAL HOMES THAT THEY WOULD BUILD IN THIS AREA. AND THERE ARE, THERE WERE 33 LETTERS SENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AS OF THIS AFTERNOON I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE RECEIVED ANY OF THOSE RESPONDENTS BACK. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER PROBABLY HAS ANOTHER PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES SIR.
>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD TO CONNECT TO 87 UNTIL PHASE 3 IS OWNED, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
>> YES SIR. >> IS THAT THROUGH THE EXISTING
NEIGHBORHOOD? >> IF YOU SEE IT, IT WOULD BE RIGHT THROUGH HERE. SO THIS WOULD BE GREEN SPACE. WHICH IS THE EXISTING CANVAS, YES, THIS IS THE EXISTING CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THESE ARE LIKE APARTMENTS SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO OR ARE PROPOSING TO CONNECT RIGHT THROUGH HERE.
>> THEY DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG 287? I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT IT.
>> IT WAS 27 BUT NOW IT IS 2030 SO IT'S KIND OF ON THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS 1387, EVERY THREE YEARS AND WILL GET PUSHED BACK ANOTHER THREE YEARS IS WHAT WE ARE FINDING OUT.
>> ANY KIND OF MECHANISM THAT COULD BE PUT AT PLAY SO THEY COULD NOT DO PHASE 3 UNTIL THAT EQUIPMENT WAS DONE ALONG THE
HIGHWAY? >> LET ME ASK THE DEVELOPER, THE TI WAS JUST FOR PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2. SO, I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T PUT IN A REQUIREMENT. AND WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T PUT IN A REQUIREMENT PRIOR TO PHASE 3, ANOTHER ANALYSIS WOULD NEED TO BE DONE.
SO, IT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. OH, THERE YOU GO. AND JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THERE IS A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAT WILL BE PROPOSED ON THIS SITE. THAT IS DOWN AT THE LEGISLATURE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE AND THAT IS ANOTHER TAXING MECHANISM FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA FOR THE THOROUGHFARES OR THE AMENITY CENTERS. FOR THE BRIDGE, SOME OF THOSE TRANSPORTATION PERMITS AS WELL AS THE LIGHT I THINK IT WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FOR THE LIGHT AT OVERLOOK WHEN THAT IS NEEDED. MMD. DIFFERENT , YOU%-Ć THE ADDITIONAL TAX ON THOSE RESIDENTS IS WITHIN THAT
DISTRICT. >> IT'S AN MMD NOT AN AND D?
>> YES. MMD. OKAY. >> THAT'S THE ENTRANCE INTO ALL
OF THE HOUSES? >> NO MA'AM, THIS IS ONE OF THE ENTRANCES, RIGHT OFF OF 67 SERVICE ROAD AND THIS WILL BE ANOTHER ENTRANCE. THEN OFF OF AUGER ROAD WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL
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ENTRANCE. YES. SO THREE ENTRANCES, ON THE EASTERN SIDE.AND AT SOME POINT IT WILL CONNECT TO 287 AND THAT AT SOME POINT ULTIMATELY IT WILL CONNECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OVER BY THE
LAKE. >> AND THEN MAYBE I JUST MISSED IT IN HERE, HOW WIDE ARE THESE STREETS?
>> OH, I DON'T HAVE A SLOT FOR IT, THEY MEET ALL OF OUR TYPICAL STANDARDS. SO, WELL, THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE THROUGH HERE, IF YOU SEE THAT, THAT IS 80 FOOT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THESE VERY SMALL LOTS ARE
PLACED. >> THEY WILL BE 31 FOOT BACK TO BACK. OR CURVED IT, FACE-TO-FACE, SORRY, WHICH IS A
TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD STREET. >> SO CUT ENTRY CROSSING.
>> COVENTRY CROSSING, IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THE LANE, YOU CAN HARDLY GET THROUGH, BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ENOUGH ROOM FOR ONE CAR TO GO ONE WAY AND ONLY ONE POINT IN TIME, IS IT THE
SAME WITH? >> I THINK THESE ARE GREATER SETBACKS, WE KIND OF HIT OUR THUMB IT MAY BE PER SE ON COVENTRY, SO SINCE THEN WE HAVE MADE ALL THE SETBACKS MUCH GREATER, SO THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE ALL A MINIMUM OF 25 FOOT UNTIL YOU GET OVER TO THE PHASE 3 WHERE THEY ARE ALLIE SERVED AND THEN THERE IS A REAR ENTRY FOR THOSE IN THE ALLEY AND THE REAR ENTRY FOR THOSE AS WELL.
>> OKAY. I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN.
>> I AGREE. >> BUT I DID NOT SEE IT IN HERE, ANYTHING ABOUT THE ROAD. THE ROAD SIZE.
>> I'M SORRY, IF YOU LOOK ON THE ORDINANCE. AND THE PAGES ARE NOT NUMBERED BUT IF YOU LOOK ON ORDINANCE TOWARDS THE BACK, IT IS EXHIBIT E STREET SECTIONS. AND SO YOU HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, NINE DIFFERENT STREET SECTIONS WITHIN THERE. SO, THE ALLEY LOOKS LIKE IT'S AT LEAST 24 FOOT WIDE, THE PAVEMENT OF THAT LOCAL STREET IS GOING TO BE 15 FOR, SO 38 LOOKS LIKE THAT COULD CURVE AND THOROUGHFARE C WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT WIDER SO IF YOU, CAN YOU SEE
THAT? MISS MCDONALD? >> DIFFICULT BUT YES.
>> I KNOW. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT, IT'S NOT JUST SPELLED OUT IN THE ORDINANCE, YES.
>> WHENEVER IT'S NOT SPELLED IN AND ORDINANCE IT JUST REVERTS
BACK TO OUR STANDARDS. >> OKAY.
>> FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE. IS THIS, IS THE INTENTION THAT THE MUD OR HOA OR THE TAXING DISTRICT IS TAKING CARE OF THAT OR ARE THEY GIVING
THIS TO THE CITY? >> THEY ARE GIVING IT IMPROVED TO THE CITY SO LET ME SOMEWHAT REPHRASE THAT, SOME OF THE AMENITY CENTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THIS AND THIS, THOSE WILL ALL BE HOA AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, THE LARGE AREA IN THE MIDDLE, THE TRAIL WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA. YES, THE MAIN TRAIL, SO THE RED AROUND THERE, THE REST WILL BE GIVEN TO US. I THINK EVERYBODY AND SPEAKING WITH EXCUSE ME OUR PARKS DIRECTOR AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PASS , A PASSIVE RECREATION AREA, THEY WILL NOT BE MAINTAINED LIKE A COMMUNITY PARK, WE WILL NOT PUT TURF FIELDS AND HERE IT IS A FLOOD PLANE AREA, YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL TRAIL THERE AND YOU MIGHT MOW FOUR-EIGHT FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIL BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT IS GOING TO BE PASSIVE RECREATION SO JUST A WALKING TRAIL MAINLY.
>> BUT FROM A TAXING STANDPOINT THE CITY WILL OWN THAT PROPERTY?
>> YES MA'AM. >> SO, IT WILL BE TREATED LIKE
IT IS JUST FREE TO BE. >> PROBABLY SO, THERE WILL BE IMPROVED PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT YES, IT WOULD BE AND I WOULD CALL THAT PASSIVE RECREATION, YES.
>> ANYONE ELSE? >> THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES, ALL THE LOT SIZES COMPLYING WITH RELATIONS AND ORDINANCES.
>> THEY WILL COMPLY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, YES.
>> NOAH HAS ANYTHING FOR STAFF, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU
LIVE IN THE CITY? >> MY NAME IS JOHN ARNOLD, COMPANY 8214 WESTCHESTER STREET, SUITE 900. DALLAS, TEXAS, 5225.
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>> NO, THAT IS NOT US. >> OKAY. OH, MY GOSH.
>> IS THIS IT? OH, MY GOSH. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, MY NAME IS JOHN ARNOLD. WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT , THE 30 FOOT LOTS, THOSE ARE A LOT LIKE TOWNHOMES BUT THEIR DETACHED SOUTH TOWNHOMES AND WILL HAVE YOUR TYPICAL STREET SECTION. A LOT OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY HAVE PARALLEL PARKING. STREET PARKING IF YOU GO DOWN KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE YOU DRIVE DOWN THE INTERIOR AND WILL HAVE SOME PARALLEL PARKING IT WILL BE OFFSET PARKING WITH COUPLE PARKING SPACES ENTRIES AND MAYBE YOU CAN SEE ON THE STREET SO LIKE AN URBAN FEEL AREA. SO THE INTENTION IS NOT TO HAVE TOWNHOMES WITH PARKED CARS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM IS TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET. WE PLAN TO KIND OF INTEGRATE THAT INTO WHAT WHATEVER THE LAKES WILL DO ON THE WATERFRONT. AND WE WILL WORK WITH THEM WHATEVER THE MIXED-USE IS, THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR IT YET BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE BUT INTENTION TO PUT THIS TO BE KIND OF A TRANSITIONAL ZONING AREA WITH KIND OF A STREET ON THE DOWNTOWN STREET LOOK SO IT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE INTENTION OF 31 FOOT WIDE STREET AND THEN PARKED CARS ON BOTH SIDES. MORE OF AN URBAN FEEL TO THAT. SO, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. SO GOING OVER A LITTLE BIT OF OUR COMPANY BACKGROUND, SOME EXAMPLE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE OURSELVES THE LAST 15 YEARS SOME MASTER PLANS, ARE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SOME SUBDIVISION COMPARISONS THAT WE USE WITH OUR PLANNING WITH STAFF AND COUNSEL WORK SESSIONS PRIOR COMING HERE AND SOME KIND OF BEST PRACTICES THAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED INTO OUR PROJECT.
OUR CONCEPT PLAN, DENSITY ANALYSIS, SURROUNDING LAND USES, AMENITY PACKAGES, I REALIZE I WILL MOVE FORWARD A LITTLE BIT FASTER. YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF THIS BUT I WILL KINDA RUN THROUGH IT OURSELVES. SKORBURG COMPANY BACKGROUND, WE ARE LOCALLY OWNED, DALLAS-BASED BUT WE HAVE DONE PROJECTS HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN TO MANSFIELD TO FORT WORTH, MCKINNEY, OVER TO ROCKWALL. SO ALL OVER THE METROPLEX OF THE LAST 40 YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY FOR ABOUT 12. WE HAVE DONE OVER 140 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. AND THEN 30 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES FOR STRICTLY DFW. ABOUT 25 CURRENT PROJECTS ACTIVE IN DEVELOPMENT OF BUILDOUT. REPUTATION FOR BUILDING HIGH QUALITY AND LONG-LASTING COMMUNITIES. PROJECTS RANGE FROM SMALL PROJECTS LIKE TOWNHOUSES AND ALLEN AND MCKINNEY AREA UP TO MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITIES. I WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH A COUPLE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT IS MORE COMPARABLE. EXAMPLE PROJECTS, STONECREEK AND ROCKWALL, THIS WAS AWARDED DALLAS BUSINESS JOURNAL IN 2009, IT WAS ABOUT 400 ACRES, 918 LOTS SIMILAR DENSITY TO THIS PROJECT. WE HAD DIFFERENT LOT SIZES RUNNING FROM 6000 TO 15,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, THE RETAIL GOT STUMBLED AND 36 ACRES FOR RETAIL SO KIND OF A SIMILAR PROJECT ON A TEXDOT ROAD NORTH AND SOUTH. OUR HOMEBUILDING COMPANY, WINDSOR HOMES WERE ALL IN THAT SUBDIVISION. IT IS IN ITS FINAL SELLOUT MODE. AND TOWNSQUARE, THOSE PROJECTS WE DID IN ANNA, ABOUT 600 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. MIXED-USE AREA, SIMILAR TO THIS ONE WITH A MULTI FAMILY, SOME OF IT STILL HAS NOT REALLY DEVELOPED RETAIL AND IT STARTED SINCE 2013 BUT WE HAVE CHURCHES AND DAYCARE IS THERE, WAITING FOR THE RETAIL TO COME. OUR
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
SOME INSPIRATION AGAIN FROM THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL ALONG THE FLOODPLAIN. USING THAT FOR THE LINEAR PARK. AND THEN SPORTS COURTS AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO JUST WANT TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE CONCEPT PLAN OF PROGRESSION, WE MET START OF THIS PROJECT IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, JUST KIND OF AN INFORMAL MEETING. THAT TOOK US ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO GET OUR FIRST CONCEPT PLAN TOGETHER. AND START MEETING WITH STAFF, AND THEN TOOK THAT INTO CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP. AND IN DECEMBER SO WE FIRST, REAL PRESENTATION WAS IN JULY. SO KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE PROGRESSION OF OUR CONCEPT PLAN, THE FIRST PLAN WE BROUGHT IN WAS JUST YOUR TYPICAL 50S AND 60S AND 70S. STRAIGHT ROADS ACROSS, VERY SIMPLE. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS FOLLOWING A LOT OF THE SAME PATTERN BUT THERE'S A LOT LESS OPEN-SPACE. UP 2.5 MILES OF TRAIL, A LOT MORE ON THAT NOW AND WE WILL ALWAYS DO THE MINI CENTER POOL GROUNDS AND WE JUST HAVE A 50 BELT. WE PROPOSE MORE THOROUGHFARES THAN THE MASTER AFFAIR PLAN, CONNECTION FROM 67 TO 87 WITH NO DRIVEWAYS AND LOTS ON IT, YOU SEE A LOT OF LOTS BACKING UP TO WITH THEIR AFFAIR, AND SO, THEY ARE TALKING TO STAFF AND A COUPLE COUNCILMEMBERS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM, THAT TYPICAL SUBDIVISION WOULD YOU DRIVE UP NORTH, AND SEE JUST A WALL ALONG THE SIDE. WE ARE ALWAYS , GOING TO DO THE BRIDGE OVER WITH BRANCH CREEK. SO OUR SECOND ONE CAME BACK IN OCTOBER AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MIXED-USE, WITH THE LAKE AND THAT'S WHEN WE LEARNED PLANNING OVER THERE SO WE TOOK AN AREA THAT MIXED-USE OVER THERE THAT PART WAS A MIXED-USE AREA SO WE PUT THAT BACK IN. WE ADDED THE LARGER 70S AND 80S ALONG ALL OF THE FLOODPLAIN. AND THEN WE BURIED LOT SIZES AND GOT WHATEVER LOT SIZES MORE THAN YOUR TYPICAL 60S AND 70S SO, AND WE INCREASED THE DENSITY BY THE MIXED-USE AREA TO TRY TO MAKE THAT TRANSITIONAL ZONING AREA OUT OF THE MULTI FAMILY OR MIXED-USE WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE. NOVEMBER 2024, THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY GOT THE FEEDBACK THAT DO NOT BACK ANYTHING UP TO ANY LOTS SO YOU WILL SEE HOW THIS IS THE PATTERNS HAVE CHANGED WITH THE SLIP STREETS. WIDENING THE GREENBELT SO YOU CAN SEE A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE ON THESE TWO DIFFERENT PLANS.KIND OF MAXED OUT THE GREEN SPACE ON THOSE. WE ADDED ADDITIONAL LOT TYPES AND ACTUALLY MIXED IN LOT TYPES SO YOU ARE NOT JUST GOING DOWN THE STREET SEEING 50, 50, 50 OR 60, 60, 60. WE HAVE A MIX OF LOT TYPES THERE AND WE INCREASED TO NEARLY 45% OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY, 20% ABOUT 15% MORE THAN THE MINIMUM. AND THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AFTER MULTIPLE WORK SESSIONS. THIS IS PRESENTED LAST OR DECEMBER 2024 TO COUNCIL. WE ADDED THE PARALLEL PARKING THAT WE DISCUSSED OVER IN THE 30 FOOT BY THE TOWNHOMES. WE ADDED A GREENBELT AND ADDED SLIP STREETS AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THESE GREEN DOTS WERE, MAKING SOME MORE OPENINGS ALONG THE GREENBELT, WE CHANGED THE LAYOUT OF THESE STREETS SO THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS OF THE GREENBELT A SHORT DISTANCE OF THE GREENBELT.
SO, WE MADE A BETTER ALIGNMENT WITH THE SLIP STREETS AND THESE WERE JUST KIND OF TECHNICAL . WE EXPANDED THE BRIDGE SECTION TO MAKE SURE IT IS FOUR LANES ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO SAY TO EVERYBODY BEFORE I FORGET THIS AS WELL, THE ROADS WE PROPOSED TO BUILD ALL THE ROADS SO WE WILL NOT DO HAVE A ROAD, HAVE AT THEIR AFFAIR WE PLANNED TO BUILD BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
SO WE WILL NOT COME IN AND BUILD HALF THE ROAD AND LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, COMMON IN THE NEXT HALF COMES IN SO WITH PHASE 1, WHATEVER IS IN PHASE 1 WE ARE BUILDING BOTH SIDES AND BOTH SECTIONS OF THE ROAD. SO YOU HAVE YOUR 25 FOOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING LIKE IT'S HALF DONE. ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
AND THEN, WE ADDED A LOT BUFFER, JUST SOME TECHNICALITIES THROUGH OUR PLAN. AND THEN BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER AND NOW, WE INCREASE THE TRAIL FROM EIGHT TO 10 FOOT. WE ADDED A COUPLE MORE
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CUL-DE-SACS AND ACCESS POINTS. MEDIAN OPENINGS FOR ALL THE THOROUGHFARES. THOSE WERE IN THE STREETS SHOWING THE PLAN THAT WE DID. WE INCREASED THEIR AFFAIR B. TO THIS ONE THROUGH HERE. TO FOUR LANES, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY A 37 PUT BACK TO BACK WITH TWO LANES TO THE TURN LANE, INCREASING THAT TO FOUR LANES.AND THEN WE ADJUSTED THE STREETS FOR BETTER SAFETY ACCESS. SO JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU, WE HAVE BEEN SITTING JUST TO COME UP AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. DENSITY ANALYSIS I SAID TO PREVIOUSLY THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS FOR 518 UNITS. WE ARE WITH THE MULTI FAMILY RIGHT AT 521 SO WE ALIGN WITH THE CURRENT ZONING. DENSITY AND OUR UNIT COUNT. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, THE LAND-USE PLAN HAD ACTUALLY SHOWED THIS SCENARIO AN AREA AS LOW DENSITY, HIGH DENSITY URBAN, MIX OF DENSITIES AND ACTUALLY THAT POINT IT ALLOWED FOR 2500 UNITS OVER PER ACRE ABOVE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT ACTUALLY HAS CHANGED AND IN OCTOBER. AND TO MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. OBVIOUSLY THE PLAN WAS CHANGED IN OCTOBER TO BASICALLY ALIGN WITH WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST YEAR. SO, IT IS AROUND 1466 UNITS. WE ARE RIGHT AT ABOUT 1521 SO WE ARE SLIGHTLY ABOVE THAT. UNITS PER ACRE. SO AGAIN, THE SUMMARY, I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THIS WITH THE TIMES BUT, 1071 LOTS. SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS, 450 MULTI FAMILY AND WE ARE ABOUT 1521 SO RIGHT AT THAT 3.4 UNITS PER ACRE. SO SURROUNDING LAND USES, JUST KIND OF WHAT SURROUNDS US THE LEFT SIDE PRESERVED OR SOUTHWEST, IS ABOUT 1600 UNITS, FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
WE ARE ABOUT .6 UNITS PER ACRE BELOW THAT. THE LAKES ADDITION, THAT IS 15 UNITS PER ACRE, CAMPUS IS 7.4. AND THEN THE EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS ARE SIMILAR TO OUR EAST, ARE THREE UNITS PER ACRE 3.3 AND THEN 5.5 SOUTH, MANY PACKAGE I WILL GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 184 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE AND IS ABOUT 45 OR FOR TO 45% OF PROJECTS AND OPEN SPACE, 20% IS THE FLOODPLAIN. AND I WILL TAKE THESE ROW QUICK, THESE ARE JUST REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES OF THE TYPE OF AMENITIES WE PLAN TO PUT IN THERE. AND THESE KIND OF WALK YOU ALONG THE PROJECT.
ONE, TWO, THREE, WITH AN AREA FOUR. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE BUT I CAN HELP AND REPRESENT WITH VOTERS.
PARKLAND DEDICATION. GOING THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. AS I SAID, LOOKING TO ACTIVATE SOME OF THAT GREENBELT, SOME EXERCISE STATIONS THAT MIGHT BE ALTOGETHER ONE OR GO ALONG THE TRAIL, BENCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE.
THE FLOODPLAIN WILL BE NATURAL. AS WE SAID, IT WILL BE TRAILS.
THE WATER CROSSINGS. WE GOT ABOUT SLIP STREETS AGAIN, HERE IS JUST KIND OF A REPRESENTATIVE ON WHAT THE SLIP STREETS COULD LOOK LIKE. INSTEAD OF HAVING YOUR TWO LANES AND THEN A WALL AND THEN HOUSES YOU KIND OF HAVE A MORE AESTHETICALLY APPEALING LOOK DRIVING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AGAIN, WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT , THIS 30 FOOT LOT, DETACHED HOMES AND BUNGALOWS.
ALLIE LOADED, WE WILL HAVE A MIX OF THE LOTS THAT HAVE STREETS WITH SOME PARALLEL PARKING ON IT AND THEN WE WILL HAVE SOME OF THE LOTS THAT LOOKED OUT ONTO OPEN SPACES. I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL GO BACK TO THE PHASING PLAN, MIGHT BE A GOOD
PLACE. >> QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE? >> YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO
>> NO. NOT YET, AT LEAST NOT ME. THE TWO QUESTIONS I GOT THAT I
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HOPE YOU COULD ANSWER IN ADDITION TO THE MUD, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT. MMD. WHAT IS THAT COST? GOING TO BE TO THEHOMEOWNER? >> ABOUT 60%, $.60 TAX RATE WE ARE COMPARABLE TO OUR NEIGHBOR, WEST SIDE PRESERVED THE OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND . >> ARE THOSE ON A 30 YEAR BOND?
>> YES. >> AND THE HOA THAT WILL I
PRESUME THERE IS A HOA. >> THERE WILL BE A HOA ON TOP OF
THAT. >> WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> WITH SOMETHING THIS HIGH, I MEAN THIS MANY LAWS ON IT I WOULD SAY MAYBE THREE TO 400 A YEAR. IT WILL BE LOW.
>> WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THESE HOME SELLING FOR?
>> IT'S IN ALL THESE PAPERS. >> THE ONE PIECE OF PAPER I LEFT IN MY BAG. THE STARTING FROM THE SMALLEST THEY WILL START IN THE MID-THREES, 30 FOOT LOTS. THEY WILL START IN THE MID-THREES AND GO UP TO THE LOW FOURS. THE 40 FOOT LOTS WILL BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THAT BUT IT WILL BE LIKE MID TO HIGH THREES. THEN GO INTO MID-UP TO MID FOURS. THE 50S WILL START IN THE LOW 400S.
AND GO UP TO FIVE AND SIX. IN THE 70S AND 80S PROBABLY NORTH OF MID-FIVES. THEN YOU MIGHT SEE SOME OF THOSE GET INTO THE SIX AND SEVEN'S. JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON THAT.
>> THE MULTI FAMILY, THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE MIXED-USE TRACK IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
>> AND YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THERE?
>> I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO BUT THAT'S THE OTHER THING WITH STAFF IS WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE IF IT'S MULTI FAMILY IT HAS TO COME BACK FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WHENEVER IT DOES HAPPEN IT HAS TO COME BACK IN FOR ANY KIND OF CONCEPT PLAN WE THINK IT IS WAY TOO EARLY ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WE ARE STARTING ALL THE WAY OVER ON PHASE 1 AND TWO. I DON'T SEE PHASE 3 EVEN BEING A THOUGHT IN THEIR MIND BEFORE 2031 OR 2032.
SO THAT MIXED-USE AREA IS REALLY THE SAME THING, THEY ARE JUST NOW STARTING TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT. SO WE COULD MEET TOGETHER IN 10 YEARS. SEVEN TO 10 YEARS TO START TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE
ARE DOING THERE. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE?
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE, YES SIR.
>> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE
YOUR LEGISLATION STANDS NOW? >> IT HAS BEEN ADVERTISED AND GOES THROUGH THE ACTUAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN MAY. AND THE APPROVAL IT COULD BE END OF MAY AND JUNE.
>> HAS ALREADY BEEN FILED AS A BILL?
>> YES. FILED IN COUNCIL AND APPROVED WITH RESOLUTION
SUPPORT. >> FILED, ASSIGNED TO COMMITTEE,
DO YOU KNOW? >> I AM NOT 100% SURE ON THAT.
>> I HAVE BEEN OUT OF TOWN FOR A WEEK, I LOST EVERYTHING.
>> MOST OF THESE FOLKS UP HERE HAVE BEEN ACCUSTOM AS WELL AS THE COUNTY DEALING WITH MUD'S, COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO MAYBE SOME OF THE FOLKS UP HERE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN A
MUD AND AND MMD? >> MUD, YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THIS BETTER THAN I CAN BUT LET ME GIVE YOU THE LAYMAN'S TERMS, A MUD IS ITS OWN DISTRICT AND COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM THE CITY AND THE CITY HAS ZERO CONTROL OVER WHAT A MUD DOES, IT'S ITS OWN ENTITY BASICALLY. OR CITY, AND MMD AND THE PID ARE IN CITY. A PID IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE I SEE FROM A PID IS ITS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SO CONTROL OVER EVERYTHING AND THE CITY WILL TAKE CONTROL OVER A LOT OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF IT. WHAT AND MMD DOES IS WORK WITHIN THE
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CITY, THE CITY HAS TO CONTROL WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY MANAGING THE DAY-TO-DAY AND THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF IT SO MMD GIVES US MAINTENANCE OVER THE PROJECT AND A PID WOULD LEAVE THE MAINTENANCE UP TO THE CITY, YOU HAVE THE MONEY BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMINISTRATE EVERYTHING AND DO ALL THE PAPERWORK AND DO ALL THAT. MMD, WE SET UP A BOARD ANDWE MANAGE THE PROJECT AS WELL. >> ONE OTHER SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE ON THE FINANCING SIDE OF IT IS PID'S ARE TYPICALLY DONE, WELL THEY ARE DONE BY ASSESSMENTS. BASED ON THE ENHANCED VALUE OF THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE FUNDED WITH THOSE ASSESSMENTS GIVE TO THE LAND, I MEAN THAT IS IF YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH, MUCH LIKE YOUR OLD STREET ASSESSMENTS WERE DONE, YEARS AGO WHICH WE DON'T DO TOO MANY OF, THEY TAKE THE PLACE OF WHAT THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO NOW. WHERE AS MMD'S, DEPENDING ON THEIR LEGISLATION, ACTUALLY HAVE PROPERTY TAX, AND TAX AUTHORITY, THEY CAN ACTUALLY ASSESS ATTACKS WHICH WILL BE ON TOP OF THE OTHER PROPERTY TAXES ON A PARTICULAR LOT. MANY TIMES, THE LEGISLATION I HAVE NOT SEEN A BILL OR BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION, I THINK JOE HAS BEEN HANDLING THIS. FROM THE MMD SIDE, AND YOU KNOW IT WILL HAVE TYPICALLY A CAP ON THE MAXIMUM MOST OF 1%. OR TYPICALLY IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S USUALLY A DOLLAR THAT'S THE COP I DON'T KNOW IF THIS BILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE PAST ONCE WE HAVE DONE IN MIDLOTHIAN THE BILL HAS TYPICALLY REQUIRED AS THE RELATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS TYPICALLY REQUIRED A COUNCIL APPROVAL. TO LEVY THE TAX BEFORE THEY CAN DO IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT.
MAY NOT. SO I KNOW I KNOW THE OLD PROPERTY THAT EXPIRED ON THE SITE NOW HAD THAT IN IT. YOU MAY JUST HAVE THE CAP. SO, THAT IS TYPICALLY HOW OR ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES ASIDE FROM INDICATED IT WOULD BE TYPICALLY MORE INTERNAL YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET IT FROM THE CITY TO ACTUALLY AND YOU COULD DO A MUD IN THE CITY AS WELL BUT TYPICALLY THAT IS NOT , YOU HAVE TO HAVE COUNSEL AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. SO THAT IS THE MAIN
DIFFERENCES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SIR.
>> MAY BE TWO MORE QUESTIONS, WHAT BUILDERS DID YOU SAY YOU
ARE WORKING WITH? >> WINDSOR HOMES, WINDSOR HOMES IS OUR HOMEBUILDER AND THEY WILL BE IN IT. WE HAD NOT REALLY SELECTED. WITH OUR BUILDERS YET BUT OUR HOMEBUILDER WILL BE IN
THERE. >> AND THE MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ASSUMING THIS GOT APPROVED, THROUGH COUNSEL, YOU GOT THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO, WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE TO BREAK GROUND? BEFORE
YOU HAVE HOMES READY FOR CELL? >> WE WOULD BREAK GROUND BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. ASSUMING EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED. WITH THE LEGISLATION FOR THE SUMMER, TRYING TO HAVE OUR ENGINEERING PLANS BREAK GROUND THIS YEAR. FOR THE FIRST HOMES ON THE GROUND PROBABLY 18 MONTHS. TO 24 MONTHS FROM TODAY. AND THEN AS I SAID PHASE 1 THAT ALL DEPENDS ON MARKET. WE HAVE OUR ROCKWELL PROJECTS TOOK 12 TO 15 YEARS. TO BUILD OUT AND THEY WERE 700 AND 800 LOTS. HITTING WEIRDLY RIGHT WHEN A HIT AND THE RUSH WAS SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE 20 YEAR-LONG DEAL TURNED OUT TO BE 15. SO I WOULD SAY THIS IS A 12 TO 16 YEAR DEAL.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> SO YOU'RE GIVING ME THE
STOOL SIDE IN THERE. >> I WILL TELL YOU THESE LARGE MASTER PLANS TAKE ON A LIFE OF THEIR OWN. OUR PROJECT WAS MASTER PLAN LIKE THIS, AND THEN HERE COMES THE SCHOOL AND PROPPED AND RIGHT WHERE WE HAD THAT.
>> IF YOU HAVE 1000 UNITS YOU WILL HAVE AT LEAST 600.
>> AND THERE DEFINITELY COULD BE, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE WE
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>> THANK YOU SIR. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP HERE, ARE WE MISSING ANYBODY? OKAY, I WOULD ENTERTAIN MOTION
TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MAKING A MOTION TO CLOSE.
>> SECOND, MOTION AND SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
>> I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE COMMISSION HAS ANY
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND, IS THERE
[010 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance relating to the use and development of 12.689+ acres in the Marcellus T. Hawkins Survey, Abstract No. 463, and Benjamin F. Hawkins Survey, Abstract No. 464, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas, by amending and restating the development and use regulations of Planned Development District No. 81 (PD-81) relating to such tract, and granting a Specific User Permit (SUP) for a helipad subject to development regulations. The property is generally located at the northwest corner of S. 14th Street and Hawkins Run Road. (Z06-2025-007) ]
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. ANY
OPPOSED? IT IS UNANIMOUS. >> THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 0 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF 12.689 ACRES IN THE MARSALIS T HAWKINS SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 463 AND BENJAMIN F HAWKINS SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 464. CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, BY AMENDING AND RESTATING THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE REGULATIONS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 81 AND RELATING TO SUCH TRACT AND GRANTING A SPECIFIC USER PERMIT FOR A HELIPAD SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH 14TH STREET AND HAWKINS RUN
ROAD. >> OKAY. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS 12.7 ACRES, OUT OF PD 81, A COMMERCIAL RETAIL TRACT AND THEY ARE WANTING TO PUT IN A MEDICAL CLINIC. FOR TEXAS HEALTH INTEGRATED HEALTH CENTER AND THEY ARE WAITING TO PROVIDE A HELIPAD SITE SO THAT REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THE COMP PLAN SHOWS THIS AS NEWTOWN MODULE WHICH ALLOWS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES WITH RESIDENTIAL IT MEETS MULTIPLE STRATEGIES IN THE COMP PLAN AS THE WELL-BEING GUIDING PRINCIPLE THE DIVERSIFYING THE SPACE AND ENCOURAGES POTENTIAL EMPLOYERS.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS MID PARK WHICH YOU SAW THAT COME THROUGH THAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO. THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES A LOT OF MEDICAL OFFICES AS WELL. TO THE WEST IS A KROGER DEVELOPMENT. WHICH IS RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL TYPE OF USES. TO THE EAST IS AN EXTENSION OF PD 81, AND INCLUDES BOTH COMMERCIAL RETAIL, COMMUNITY RETAIL AND SINGLE-FAMILY USES AND TO THE SOUTH, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICES RIGHT A CROSSED THE HOCKEY AND RUNS ROAD WITH SINGLE FAMILY BEHIND IT AND TO THE SOUTHEAST IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO, SOUTH 14TH STREET IS A MINOR ARTERIAL, 90 FOOT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ULTIMATELY. THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD A SOUTHBOUND ACCELERATION LANE WITH A RIGHT TURN LANE FOR THE MAIN DRIVEWAY WITH THE FIRST PHASE AND THERE IS A MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT THAT CONNECTS WITH THE PARK OFFICES TO THE NORTH. THE MAIN ENTRY FACES SOUTH 14TH STREET AND THEY WILL RELOCATE THE SIDEWALKS TO ACCOMMODATE THE ACCELERATION LANE AND THEY WILL TIE WITH THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS AS WELL AS THE PEDESTRIAN WAYS WITHIN THE SITE. THE HELIPAD IS GOING TO BE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE. THERE ARE CONDITIONS IN THE PD ORDINANCE THAT MUST BE ON THE SAME LOT AS A PRIMARY USE ON THE OPERATIONS MUST BE FOR TRANSPORTATION OF PATIENTS AND MEDICAL PERSONNEL. THE LOCATION IS GOING TO BE WITH 100 FEET OF THE LOCATION ON THE SITE PLAN THE PRIMARY USES FOR THE SITE OR MEDICAL CLINIC OFFICES, EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, LAB, PHYSICAL THERAPY AND AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER. SO FOR THE FIRST PHASE THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD A TWO-STORY CLINICAL BUILDING WHICH WILL BE 46,360
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SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE ASKING FOR A PARKING VARIANCE AND IT IS A RATIO OF 50 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS WHAT WE DID FOR METHODIST AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE IT AT 400 PARKING WILL BE EVENLY DISTRIBUTED WITH THE PHASING. SECOND PHASE WILL BE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND AMBULATORY SURGERY CENTER WHICH WILL BE 37,100 SQUARE FEET. THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDE FEATURES IN LIEU OF THE HORIZONTAL, VERTICAL ARTICULATION FORMULA WHICH DOESN'T REALLY FIT WITH THIS INSTITUTIONAL USE. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN EXCEEDS REQUIREMENTS IN MOST CASES, THEY HAVE A LARGE VARIETY OF CANOPY TREES, THEY ARE PROVIDING MORE OF THE FRONT YARD OPEN SPACE THAN IS REQUIRED FOR BOTH OF THE THOROUGHFARES THAT THEY FRONT. THE PARKING LOT POINTING AND SCREENING ALSO EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE REQUESTING A VERY , A VARIANCE AND THEY WANT TO DO IT MORE CLOSELY FITTING THEIR BRANDING. SO THEY WILL HAVE THREE MONUMENT SIGNS. WHICH IS ONE MORE THAT IS ALLOWED. BY ORDINANCE AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE FOUR WAYFINDING SIGNS. SO, MOST OF THEIR VARIANCES ARE RELATED TO THEIR SIGNAGE. THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE BUILDING SIGNAGE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TWO SIGNS ON TWO ELEVATIONS. THEY EXPLAINED THAT A LOT OF THEIR SIGNAGE IS REQUIRE BY LAW. SO, 20 LETTERS WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE AND TODAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE HELIPAD. ANY QUESTIONS?>> QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? >> DIDN'T WE JUST APPROVE A
DAYCARE CENTER FOR THIS SITE? >> YES.
>> AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> SO WHAT IS A CLINICAL BUILDING BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A HOSPITAL, IS IT A HOSPITAL? IT HAS AN E.R.
>> THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT IS NOT ACUTE CARE. AND IT IS ALSO THEY ARE NOT KEEPING PEOPLE OVERNIGHT FOR LONG OVERNIGHT STAYS. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE KEY DIFFERENCES BUT I WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO EXPAND ON THAT FOR YOU.
>> OKAY. >> THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND
WISHING TO SPEAK? >> I'M JOHN SULLIVAN AND I ACTUALLY LIVE IN FORT WORTH. THE CORPORATE OFFICES IN ARLINGTON.
I WANT TO SAY LITTLE BIT ABOUT THR SO WE ARE A BIG HEALTHCARE SYSTEM LOCATED IN THE DFW AREA AND WE OPERATE TO 29 ACUTE CARE HOSPITALS. HUNDREDS OF PHYSICIAN OFFICES AND URGENT CARES.
FREESTANDING SURGERY CENTERS AND RADIOLOGY CLINICS THROUGHOUT THE THE METROPLEX. AND WE ARE CALLING THIS AN INTEGRATED HEALTH CAMPUS. AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS IT MEANS IT'S GOT SOME HOSPITAL SERVICES LIKE YOU HAD SEEN IN A STANDARD HOSPITAL AND IT'S GOT MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE SO MOST FACILITIES WE BUILD HIM A WE BUILD A HOSPITAL AND MO P SIDE BY SIDE THESE WILL HAVE HOSPITAL SERVICES MINUS THE BEDS SO PEOPLE CAN'T STAY IN THE BED OVERNIGHT. SO IT IS MORE OF AN OUTPATIENT TYPE ED. THE REASON FOR THE HELIPAD WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THESE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ONE IN WILLOW PARK AND ONE IN BURLISON AND WE BUILT ONE IN PROSPER AND I CHECKED ON THE AIR TRAFFIC AND IT'S REALLY FOR SOMEBODY THAT SHOWS UP IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND THEY NEED TO BE RUSHED SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT THAN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT HERE. THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT IS HAPPENING AT WILLOW PARK RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT ONE PER MONTH SO IT'S NOT REALLY FREQUENT. BUT THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. I'VE GOT ENGINEERING TEAMS, ARCHITECTS AND A BUNCH OF FOLKS WITH ME
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TODAY TO HELP ME ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FACILITY.>> I'M LOOKING AT YOUR PLAN HERE, AND IT SAYS FUTURE ASC AND
MO B WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> SO AMBULATORY SURGERY CENTER IT'S LIKE AN OUTPATIENT TYPE SURGERY CENTER OR MORE AND MORE SURGERIES ARE DONE ON AN OUTPATIENT BASIS INSTEAD OF INPATIENT. AND THAT IS A FUTURE EXPANSION, WE HAVE 46,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE FIRST PHASE AND IT'S A TWO-STORY FACILITY AND ABOUT 32ND AND IN THE FIRST PHASE THERE WILL BE MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE. SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT POSITION MAKES THERE WILL BE IN THAT SPACE BUT THERE WILL BE PHYSICIANS, FAMILY PRACTICE, MAY BE SOME SPECIALISTS THAT WILL BE IN THAT
>> FURTHER QUESTIONS? >> MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE FOR
DOCTORS. >> OKAY, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AND THE SURGERY CENTER PART IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THE LEFT. BUT YET THE HELIPAD AND AMBULANCE ARE ON THE RIGHT.
HOW DO PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO GO? >> WELL THAT'S ONE OF THE VARIANCES WE ARE ASKING FOR SO TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> IF MY GUESS. SO, THE ENTRANCE IS HERE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, IF I NEEDED TO TAKE SOMEONE TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. IT'S VERY
CONFUSING. >> EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY ON THE SITE PLAN I'M LOOKING AT IT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE FACILITY. WHICH WILL BE REAL CLOSE TO THE HELIPAD. THE SURGERY CENTER, THE ASC PIECE AND THE MO B IS A FUTURE PROJECT WHICH WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
SO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS TO SHOW IT WILL BE SUPER EASY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT
IS. >> SO WE HAVE A HOSPITAL. ACROSS THE STREET. IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO ME, AND AMBULANCE COMES. WITH THIS EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT BE STAFFED WITH PERSONNEL THAT COULD HANDLE A FIRE DEPARTMENT BRINGING PEOPLE
HERE? >> YES, SO WE HAVE AT ONE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT GROUP THAT WE , THAT MANAGE ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AT DALLAS AND FORT WORTH AND IT'S THE SAME EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN GROUP THAT WILL BE WORKING IN THIS FACILITY HERE. SO THE ANSWER IS YES.
>> I JUST KNOW MY PARENTS ARE OF A CERTAIN AGE. MY DAD'S BIRTHDAY IS TODAY AND HE IS 70 AND IF HE NEEDED A HEART SPECIALTY, HE WOULD GO TO LIKE CERTAIN PLACES SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET, WHY WOULD WE GO TO THIS EMERGENCY ROOM?
>> IT'S REALLY NOT DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF OUR OTHER EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EMERGENCY.
THE CAR FORT WORTH HOSPITAL IS A LEVEL I, TRAUMA CENTER. ITS EQUIPMENT AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE EITHER THERE THERE WILL BE MEDICAL DOCTORS THAT WILL WORK IN THAT SPACE. A HELPFUL CAPABILITY OF TREATING SOMEBODY IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. THE HELIPAD IS IN A RARE CASE TO WHERE SOMEBODY NEEDS IF THEY WOULD GO FROM THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND THEY NEED TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THERE IS A BED IN ICU THAT THEY CAN STAY AT. BUT THIS IS, I WOULD FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE BRINGING ANYBODY TO THIS EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.
>> ARE THERE SURGICAL SUITES IN THIS BUILDING?
>> NOT IN PHASE 1. IN PHASE 2 THERE WILL BE SURGICAL SUITES.
>> SOMEBODY COMES TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM THAT NEEDED SURGERY YOU WILL NEED TO PAIR LEFT THEM THERE OR PUT THEM BACK IN AN AMBULANCE AND MAKE THEM GO SOMEWHERE ELSE?
>> TO A FACILITY THAT HAS SURGICAL?
>> THEY CAN BE STABILIZED IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO, THEY CAN DO SURGERY IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. I'M SORRY, IT IS AN OUTPATIENT SURGERY CENTER. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
>> THIS IS A DAY SURGERY FACILITY BASICALLY.
>> THE ASC WILL BE. YES. >> WHICH NOWADAYS YOU CAN JUST ABOUT DO EVERYTHING IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
>> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> NO, I'M GOOD. SORRY.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. SO THEY HAVE I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T TELL BY
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THE DRAWING, YOU HAVE YOUR 20 MILE-PER-HOUR ZONES. ON TWO SIDES ON THAT CORNER. AND THEN YOU HAVE A LONG 14 FURTHER I WILL SAY SOUTH. THE 20 MILE-PER-HOUR DURING SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICK UP. GIVEN THAT YOU HAVE EMERGENCY SERVICES. HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION OR STUDY OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES INTO PUTTING AN EMERGENCY FACILITY NEXT TO A SCHOOL.>> OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS HERE. >> YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION
BETTER THAN I CAN. >> IF YOU WORD , IF YOU WOULD, STATE YOUR NAME AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY.
>> I AM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BASED IN DALLAS, TEXAS. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE SCHOOL TIMINGS THAT WE HAVE IS FROM 7 AM TO 3:45 PM. SO THAT IS A MORE CONCENTRATED TIME SO BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOL, THE MOST THAT YOU WILL SEE FOR THE SCHOOL WOULD BE HALF HOUR BEFORE THE TIME. AND HOW FAR AFTER THE DISMISSAL TIME. SO IN OUR CASE THE EMERGENCY ROOM WOULD BE 24 HOUR, RIGHT. AND FOR THE GENERAL CLINIC IT WILL BE FROM 8 AM TO 5 PM WHICH WILL BE COINCIDING , EXCUSE ME, SORRY. WHICH WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS WHAT THE SCHOOL TIMES ARE.
>> RIGHT, BUT YOU WILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY SOMETIME DURING THE YEAR DURING DROP-OFF AND PICKUP. SO YOU'VE GOT PARENTS LINING UP AND THAT FLOWS INTO THE STREET ON SOUTHSIDE IF I HAVE MY DIRECTION CORRECTLY. THAT IS NOT NEXT TO THE HOSPITAL. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT AMBULANCES COMING UP 14. EITHER SIDE I MEAN HOW , IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN SOMETIME. MAYBE IT'S RARE BASED ON THE HOURS AND OBVIOUSLY BUT WHAT IS THE ACTION PLAN AND WHAT IS THE CONSIDERATION? SHOULD THAT OCCUR? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SAFETY FOR EVERYONE IS A CONCERN.
>> YES. WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. FOR THE MORNING AND EVENING TIMES SO THE SCHOOL THAT HAS THE QUEUE LINED UP ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE SCHOOL. WHERE THE INTERSECTION IS FREE SO WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE INTERSECTION. WITH THE EMERGENCY ENTRANCE.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE
APPLICANT? >> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. IF THIS WAS NOT FULLY APPROVED, WOULD YOU STILL BE WILLING TO BUILD OFFICES FOR DOCTORS? BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR MORE MEDICAL, I JUST FEEL PERSONALLY, I FEEL A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT HAVING THE EMERGENCY ROOM RIGHT THERE ON THAT SPOT. SO, IS THERE AN OPTION ON YOUR SIDE TO DO IT
WITHOUT THE EMERGENCY ROOM? >> I THINK OUR PLAN WOULD BE THAT WE NEED ALL THOSE HOSPITAL ELEMENTS ATTACHED TO THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, I HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO TRYING TO FIND A LOCATION IN MIDLOTHIAN TO FIND A SITE SO I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WITH THE CITY STAFF. WE FOUND ANOTHER SITE AND HAD IT UNDER CONTRACT AND IT WAS ACTUALLY ON NINTH STREET AND THE TRAFFIC BECAME A CONCERN. WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE USE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO THIS PARTICULAR USE. SO THIS TIME WHAT WE DID IS WE DID THE OPPOSITE APPROACH, WE BROUGHT THE TRAFFIC PEOPLE IN FIRST TO HELP US LOOK INTO THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN AND I THINK YOU TALK ABOUT SITES I HAVE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN SO ANY SINGLE SITE, EAST, AND WEST, NORTH, SOUTH. AND I THINK THAT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR SITE SUITS WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE. I THINK THE ROADWAYS ARE THERE. THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE A 14TH AND 287 SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY OF TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT LOCATION TO LOCATE HERE IN THE CITY OF
MIDLOTHIAN. >> I AM JUST WORRIED THAT IT'S
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GOING TO BE CONFUSING AS TO WHERE TO BE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BETTER ARTICULATE THAT OTHER THAN TO THE POINT THANK YOU, THAT HE WAS MAKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL. AND JUST THAT EMERGENCY CENTER, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE. NOT KNOWING WHERE TO GO AND HOW TO GET THERE. WE JUST GOT A RED LIGHT AFTER ALMOST A YEAR PATIENTLY WAITING AND A LOT OF NEAR MISSING , I LOVE THE PLAN I JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT>> ROGERS ARE YOU WITH THE APPLICANT? DO YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY, AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF THE
PROJECT, CORRECT? >> TERRENCE IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME WEATHER IF YOU ARE IN THE CITY AND IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT. >> TERRENCE JOBE, 2415 SUMMERFIELD. MIDLOTHIAN. CEO OF DEVELOPMENT AS WELL IS THE DEVELOPER OF WEST I PRESERVE. THE HAWKINS MEADOWS WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH AND ALSO THE DEVELOPER OF ALL THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE AT FRONT HAWKINS RUN, WE WERE ALSO THE SELLER OF THE SCHOOL SITE THAT IS IN QUESTION OF THIS CONVERSATION. I AM ALSO THE OWNER OF TNT GLOBAL MORTGAGE.
WHO OWNS THE SITE. THAT IS IN QUESTION AND WE ALSO OWN MOST OF THE OTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA. I AM IN SUPPORT OF OF COURSE IT WOULD BE BECAUSE I AM THE SELLER. AND SO, SELFISHLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. IF I MAY. I THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT AND I LOVE THE NEW FACILITY, IS MY FIRST TIME IN HERE AND I AM JUST HAVING A GREAT TIME. THE SCHOOL ORIGINALLY WAS ON THIS SIDE. AND WE WORKED A TRADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO GET THEM ON A LARGER SITE ACROSS THE STREET AND ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WAS STACKING ON SITE. AND SO AS THEY COME OFF 14TH STREET, THE STACKING ACTUALLY GOES BEHIND THE SCHOOL.
AND COMES OUT ON HAWKINS RUN. WHICH WE BUILT A GOOD DEAL OF HAWKINS RUN AND HALF OF 14TH STREET BY THE WAY, WITH A PARTNERSHIP AND A PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. SO AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENS IF AN EMERGENCY HAPPENS, DURING SCHOOL HOURS, THERE IS PROBABLY SOME CONCERN THERE BUT MOST OF THE STACKING IS ON-SITE ON THE ELEMENTARY. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND I HAVE FIVE GRANDCHILDREN BY THE WAY, SO I AM AGAIN SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING EMERGENCY SERVICES CLOSE TO THE BALLFIELDS WHICH ARE SOUTH OF HERE. AND CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL. I ALSO LIKE IT CLOSE TO MY HOUSE I AM KNOCKING THE DOOR AT 70 AND I LIKE TO HAVE EMERGENCY FACILITIES AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT IN LIFE. I ALSO HAVE AN OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS FACILITY. AND LAWSON FARMS AND A LOT OF THE SUBDIVISIONS TO THE SOUTH WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS FACILITY AND I THINK IT COULD BE A LIFE-SAVING FACILITY.
AS WELL AS CONVENIENCE. AND THOSE ARE MY PICTURES , I DON'T THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OTHER THAN I AM IN SUPPORT, THOSE ARE MY POSITIONS AS A LAYMAN AND A CITIZEN. AND
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> THANK YOU SIR. ELLIOTT BARNETT? IF YOU WOULD COMMENT STATE YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE CITY, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU ARE IN
>> MY NAME IS ELLIOTT BARNETT, I LIVE IN DALLAS. WE OWN AND ARE THE DEVELOPERS OF THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH WE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF THIS BODY IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON AND OFF FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. IF IT WOULD HELP IF YOU PUT UP THE SITE PLAN PLEASE. THE LAST I HEARD ABOUT THIS HOT NEW HOSPITAL IT WAS GOING TO BE ON NINTH STREET AND WE HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING AND KEEPING IT PRETTY QUIET FOR A WHILE, AND I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED, I THOUGHT IT WAS HERE FOR A HELICOPTER OR A HELIPAD APPROVAL AND I DON'T KNOW THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED, AND
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WE NEVER HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS APPROVAL. BUT WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO BOTH THE HELIPAD AND THIS HOSPITAL AND IF YOU PULL UP THE SITE PLAN I WILL SHOW YOU WHY. WHEN WE GOT OUR ORIGINAL PUD FORMED, OKAY.>> IT WAS REQUESTED BECAUSE OF US TO PUT IN THIS ACCESS DRIVE THAT IS BARELY OFF THE PROPERTY AS A DRIVE CONNECTING TO MR. JOB'S PROPERTY IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO EXIT HIS PROPERTY AND UTILIZE THE LIGHT. ON 14TH STREET. I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE AND AMBULANCES AND A HOSPITAL TRYING TO STACK IN THAT LANE AT A LIGHT IT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME TONIGHT, WHEN WE GET TO THE CITY COUNCIL WE WILL OBJECT TO THAT. AND THEY DON'T NEED THE ACCESS THROUGH OUR PROPERTY. SO THAT IS OUR BASIC CONCERN AT THIS POINT. IT IS A PRETTY BUILDING AND I'M SURE IT WILL DO QUITE WELL, WHY YOU NEED ANOTHER HOSPITAL, DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF THE OFFICE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY FOR METHODIST I DON'T KNOW. I THINK WE NEED MORE SPACE, BUT WE DON'T NEED 100,000 FEET OF IT, TRUST ME. YES, OUR TOTAL IS 67,000 FEET.
SO, THAT'S BASICALLY IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SIR. >> NOT HAVING ANY OTHER FORMS OF HERE ARE WE MISSING ANYBODY? OKAY, IF NOT I ENTER TATIAN TO
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I MOVED TO CLOSE.
>> MOTION AND SECOND TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS
THE HELIPAD ITSELF, CORRECT? >> SO THEY DON'T NEED TO DO A PD AMENDMENT TO DO MEDICAL OFFICES. SO THIS IS REALLY A SITE PLAN WITH A HELIPAD. SO YOU CAN DENY ANY OF THE VARIANCES OR WHAT THEY COULD COME BACK IN AND DO MEDICAL OFFICES WITH IT.
>> BUT MEDICAL OFFICE TO ME MEANS ONE THING, EMERGENCY ROOM IS SOMETHING AND IS NOT MEDICAL OFFICE. DO WE NOT HAVE A
DEFINITION DEFINING THE TWO? >> A LOT OF THE EMERGENCY CARE CLINICS HAVE TURNED INTO SURGICAL AND AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS. SELECT THE GENTLEMAN WHO SANG A LOT OF THE PROCEDURES THAT PEOPLE DO NOW OUR OUTPATIENT PROCEDURES AND THEY SCHEDULE THEM AHEAD OF TIME AND THEY COME IN AND DO THAT. AND I
UNDERSTAND. >> THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT THIS IS. SO THE AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER IS A FUTURE THING THAT'S NOT EVEN BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW. THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY OPEN WITH AN EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT BUT CALLING IT MEDICAL OFFICES.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. >> I WILL LET HIM COME AND SPEAK BUT I AM CORRECT ABOUT THE EMERGENCY DOCK IN THE BOXES THEY HAVE ABILITY FOR SURGICAL ADDED ONTO THE USES EVERYWHERE BUT I WILL BE GLAD TO LET HIM COME BACK UP.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT OUR POLICY OR WHAT OUR CODE IS AS
THE CITY. >> MEDICAL CLINIC AND MEDICAL
OFFICES ARE ALLOWED. >> INCLUDES EMERGENCY
>> THANK YOU. OKAY. >> THE VARIANCE WAS THE SIGNAGE.
>> THERE WAS MORE THAN THAT, PRIMARILY THE VARIANCES LET ME LOOK AT IT. WERE THE, THE SIGNAGE ON MORE THAN ONE ELEVATION. SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE SIGNAGE WHICH WAS LINKED TO A LOT OF THE REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE FOR EMERGENCY SIGNAGE.
>> HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PARKING?
>> ONE TO 400 WHICH I THINK OUR OFFICE OR OUR MEDICAL CLINIC
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SAYS AND THEN THEY ARE REQUESTING ONE TO 250 WHICH IS A PRETTY STANDARD RATIO FOR OTHER CITIES AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE METHODIST IS WE ALLOW THEM TO DO THE ONE TO 250 BASED ON OTHER CITY STANDARDS. IT IS STILL A VARIANCE, IT IS DONE THROUGH THE PD LIKE A LEGISLATIVE VARIANCE.>> AND THE SEP IS FOR THE HELIPAD AND REALLY THAT'S ALL WE ARE DISCUSSING IS THAT CORRECT AS FAR AS THE SITE PLAN?
>> CORRECT, I MEAN YOU CAN DENY ANY OF THE VARIANCES, RIGHT? I MEAN KEVIN IS THAT A CORRECT WAY OF INTERPRETING THAT?
>> I MEAN WELL, WE HAVE TO SET A DEVELOPMENT REGULATION , IF YOU DON'T WANT TO APPROVE ANY OF THE PARTICULAR ONES THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE ORDINATES THAN THAT IS EFFECTIVELY WHAT MARY IS SAYING SO WE HAVE TO PICK THROUGH THE ORDINANCES TO SEE WHICH ONES YOU WOULD WANT TO APPROVE.
>> I AM CHECKING JUST QUICKLY TO MAKE SURE I CAPTURED ALL OF THE VARIANCES REQUESTED. SO, I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. THE SIGNAGE,
THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH A PARTICULAR VARIANCE? >> SO, I MEAN ANOTHER THING THAT SINCE IT JUST CAME UP AT THIS HEARING I MEAN IF THEY WENT AND WANTED TO MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH AND DISCUSSED THAT MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT, I MEAN STAFF MADE IT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION SO IF WE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND SAW IF IT WAS REALLY NEEDED WE COULD TAKE THAT AND BRING IT BACK NEXT TIME AND IF THAT MADE
ANY DIFFERENCE TO ANYONE. >> SEEMS I GOT , DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PARTICULAR VARIANCE THAT THEY WISH TO DISCUSS? IF NOT, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
>> I ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANY REGULATION ON THE HELIPAD IN THE PROXIMITY TO THE HELIPAD THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AT
METHODIST? IS THERE ANY KIND OF? >> SO, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HELIPAD BUT IT'S NOT CITY REGULATED, IT'S REGULATED
BY THE FAA. >> THEY WILL REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CLEAR ZONE FOR SAFETY REASONS THAT WILL REQUIRE AND THEY WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO IN FACT I'M SURE THEY WILL HAVE TO DO AN AIR STUDY IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY. YES WHICH THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE. TO MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT THE ADEQUATE CLEARANCE WITH RESPECT TO BUILDINGS AND UTILITIES AND THAT
KIND OF THING. SO. >> THEY SUBMITTED THAT AS PART OF THEIR PACKAGE THAT THEY HAD AN INSPECTOR COME FROM THE FAA AND DO THE INSPECTION AND THEY APPROVED IT FOR SAFETY AND SOMETHING ELSE, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
>> I WOULD ASK OF THE APPLICANT, WOULD IT CREATE ANY PROBLEM FOR YOU, FOR US TO CONTINUE THIS? AT THE APRIL MEETING? UNTIL NEXT MONTH? I'M THINKING MAYBE STAFF BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND MAYBE ALSO LOOK INTO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY. THE DANGER POTENTIAL DANGER THAT CREATES THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING. THAT BEING THE CASE I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS NEXT MEETING.
MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOVING DOWN TO ITEM ZERO 11. CONSIDER AND ACT
[011 Consider and act upon an ordinance granting a Special Exception relating to paving standards for parking spaces to be constructed with a temporary alternative pavement (gravel) on Lots 2 and 3, Block A of FM 663 Addition, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. The property is located south of Tower Road, along the east side of FM 663. (Case No. M01-2025-001) ]
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TEMPORARY ALTERNATIVE PAVEMENT BEING GRAVEL ON LOTS TWO AND THREE, BLOCK A OF FM 663 EDITION CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS. PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF TOWER ROADALONG THE SIDE OF FM 663. >> THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FROM OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TYPICALLY REQUIRES CONCRETE PARKING THE RENOVATION CHURCH IS EXPERIENCING EXPLOSIVE AMOUNT OF GROWTH. AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED ON THE TWO ADJACENT LOTS TO THE SOUTH OF THEM TO HAVE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO ALLOW GRAVEL PAVEMENT AND OUR CONDITIONS ARE THAT THE GRAVEL PAVEMENT MUST BE DESIGNED BY A LICENSED ENGINEER AND THEREFORE BEING ABLE TO WITHSTAND 80,000 POUNDS AND THE GRAVEL PAVEMENT SHALL NOT EXCEED TWO YEARS PAST THE COUNCIL APPROVAL DATE. WHICH RIGHT NOW WOULD BE SCHEDULED TO BE MARCH 25 OF 2027. THIS IS GOING AGAINST OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THEREFORE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THAT BUT, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUEST THIS AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE THEIR CLAIM OR WHATEVER SO I WILL GO OVER TO THEM UNLESS
THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS. >> IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND WISHING TO SPEAK? IF YOU WOULD COME UP IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY.
>> MY NAME IS TIM HALE AND I LIVE IN MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. I'M THE PASTOR RENOVATION CHURCH RIGHT OFF OF 663 ACROSS FROM MOUNTAIN PEAK ELEMENTARY AND AS CLYDE SAID WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF GROWTH. AND SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING PERMITTED FOR A NEW BUILDING AND WHAT IS REALLY OUR LOT IS ABOUT 300 FEET WIDE AND SO WHEN THAT BUILDING COMES UP IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE CURRENT BUILDING THAT WE ARE IN AND IT WILL TAKE UP ALL THE PARKING IF YOU LOOK AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP WE'VE GOT AND PUT ABOUT 200 CARS BEHIND THAT BUILDING CURRENTLY EVERY SUNDAY. BETWEEN THREE SERVICES. AND SO WITHOUT THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS ALMOST GIFTED TO US, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO PART ANYBODY. AT ANY TIME. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THIS A TEMPORARY EXCEPTION, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER THAT.
>> SO THIS IS BEHIND THE CHURCH BUILDING, THE CURRENT CHURCH
BUILDING? >> IT'S TO THE SOUTH, WHERE THE REDLINES ARE LOCATED THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO BECAUSE THE NEW BUILDING WILL BE BEHIND IT TO THE EAST OF THE BUILDING
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> HONESTLY, MOUNTAIN PEAK PARENTS PARK IN THE PARKING LOT EVERY DAY. ALMOST ALL DAY LONG.
AND WHEN THERE IS AWARDS THINGS AND CHOIR CONCERTS, I HAD KIDS THAT WENT TO MOUNTAIN PEAK SO WE WOULD PARK ON 663. AND IT'S A
FROG OR. >> WE BRING THEM ALL IN WITH
LOVED ONES. YES. >> SO YOU HAVE THREE SERVICES?
>> CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO SERVICES BUT WE HAVE A VIDEO VENUE THAT WE COUNT AS ANOTHER SERVICE AND WE ARE LOOKING INTO GOING TO THREE FULL SERVICES AT THE LATEST IN JANUARY OF THIS
NEXT YEAR. >> SO HOW MANY VEHICLES AT ANY GIVEN TIME MAXIMUM WOULD YOU HAVE?
>> I WOULD SAY AT ANY GIVEN TIME PROBABLY ON THIS NEW PROPERTY, CURRENTLY, BECAUSE THEY SWAP SO WE COUNT BOTH OF THEM SO I WOULD SAY ROUGHLY 100 APPROXIMATELY 100 PER SERVICE. IN THAT BACK PARKING LOT, NOW EVERY PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT OR EVERY PARKING SPACE IN THE FRONT IS COMPLETELY FULL AND THAT IS 57
SPACES. SO YES. >> SO YOU ARE ASKING FOR
ADDITIONAL PARKING? >> SO THAT WILL HOLD OVER 200
VEHICLES. WITH THE TWO ACRES. >> DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL HAVE TO USE IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GO FURTHER EAST AND PARKED DOWN FURTHER EAST AS WELL AS USE PART OF THAT ACREAGE. WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AS A PERVIOUS SUBJECT OR SUBSTANCE AND NOT HAVE TO PAVE IT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE TWO ACRES IN THE FUTURE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN. >> SO YOU CURRENTLY ON THE
PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT? >> YES.
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION, I KNOW THIS PROPERTY CAME IN GOSH A
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YEAR OR TWO AGO WHEN WE ADDED THE FIRST GRAVEL LOT IN THE BACK, WITH THE INTENTION OF THE FUTURE BUILDING FUTURE CHURCH BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE, I DON'T KNOW THE MERGE OR THECHURCH OR WHAT CHANGED. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, I THINK IT WAS A DIFFERENT CHURCH. ORIGINALLY THAT ADDED THE LOT.
SO WITH THE INTENTION TO BE TO BUILD THE NEW FACILITY WHERE THE EXISTING LOT IS. WITH THE INTENT BE TO KEEP THE EXISTING FACILITY
>> SO, OKAY. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO
TEAR ANYTHING DOWN. >> UNDERSTOOD.
>> WE CHARGE ABOUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO GET THEM TO COME IN.
>> SO THE PLAN WOULD BE TO ADD.
>> THAT'S A JOKE. >> IT WOULD BE LIKE AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND THEN DEPENDING ON HOW EVERYTHING GOES EVENTUALLY MAYBE COME BACK IN AND PAVE IT?
>> WE WILL PAVE IT, AND WE ARE ON THE RISE FINANCIALLY. WE HAVE RAISED OVER $1 MILLION SINCE NOVEMBER 14 IN CASH. TO BUILD THIS BUILDING AND WE'VE HAD COMMITMENTS OF OVER $2 MILLION THE BUILDING WILL COST US $5 MILLION TO BUILD IT TO BE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THE TAJ MAHAL BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT MIDLOTHIAN CAN BE PROUD OF AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. IT'S HARD TO BUILD NOWADAYS. WE ARE A YOUNG CHURCH.
WE ARE NOT WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE CALLED A LEGACY CHURCH. WE ARE NOT A LEGACY CHART, WE BAPTIZED 80 PEOPLE IN 2024. 30 PEOPLE A MONTH AGO. JUST OF THIS YEAR. AND IT'S HARD TO DO THAT.
>> WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE STARTING CONSTRUCTION?
>> MAY IS PROBABLY IT. >> THE PLANS ARE IN FOR A PERMIT RIGHT NOW SO WE ARE EXPECTING OUR PERMIT IN THE NEXT 30 OR 45
DAYS. >> FOR THE RECORD WOULD YOU
IDENTIFY YOURSELF? >> DAVID HURST AND I AM A RESIDENT OF MIDLOTHIAN AND A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH.
>> GO AHEAD DAVID. >> JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS SEEING THE MAP THE CHURCH IS ACTUALLY THE DARK BUILDING ALONG THE LONG SKINNY BILL THAT WE SEE NORTH OF THE AREA, THAT'S THE EXISTING FACILITY AND YOU SEE A LARGE GRAVEL AREA BEHIND IT TO THE RIGHT. THAT IS OUR TEMPORARY GRAVEL PARKING OUT, AND WHAT IS CAUSING THE NEED FOR THIS, WE WILL BE DISRUPTING THE ENTIRE BACK AREA TO BUILD A NEW WORSHIP CENTER. A FIRE LANE AROUND THE NEW FACILITY. AND SO THAT PRETTY MUCH FELL IN OUR LAP THESE TWO ACRES. PROVIDENTIALLY ONE MIGHT PRESUME. IS WORKING OUT WELL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO ALLOW THAT WHILE WE BUILD. AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT PHASE WILL DO ALL THE PERMANENT PHASING. STAFF HAS ASKED US TO CONSIDER REZONING THE TWO ACRES AS PART OF THIS. WHICH WE WILL COME BACK AND DO IF WE DECIDE TO BUILD UPON IT PERMANENTLY. RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST SEEKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST PARK ON IT LIKE OTHER CHURCHES HAVE TO DO AROUND HERE ON A SUNDAY. BECAUSE OF THE
SUNDAY CROWD. >> WHAT IS YOUR TIMEFRAME FOR
COMPLETION? >> ABOUT A YEAR FOR THE NEW
BUILDING. ONCE WE GET STARTED. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO BE DONE BY
EASTER OF 2026. >> IN CONSIDERATION OF PLANNING OR FOLIAGE IN FRONT OF THE PARKING AREA 663.
>> IT ALREADY HAS SOME ON IT CURRENTLY. IT DIDN'T GET
TREATED PROPERLY. >> I DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY.
>> IT'S NOT WONDERFUL AND WE CAN ADD TO THAT AND MAKE IT BETTER, RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF JUST A BLANK FIELD.
>> IS GOING TO BE A GRAVEL LOT NEXT IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS.
>> SO TALK ABOUT IN TWO YEARS YOU ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WITH
IT? >> WELL, WE CAN PAVE IT COMPLETELY. OR WE CAN SELL IT. ONCE THE BUILDING IS BUILT AND WE MOVE THE PARKING FURTHER EAST DOWN THAT WAY, THERE IS A CREEK THAT RUNS ACROSS, THAT'S WHERE THE REAL DIFFICULTY IS.
>> YOU MEAN BEHIND THE NEW BUILDING?
>> YES, FURTHER. >> HERE'S MY CONCERN, BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW, IF WE DO GRANT THIS THROUGH YOU, I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY CONCEIVABLE BUT I DON'T THINK THE BODY ACTUALLY LIKES IT WHEN YOU COME BACK IN TWO YEARS AND SAY I NEED ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, DO YOU REALLY THINK TWO YEARS IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH IF YOU'RE BUILDING A SANCTUARY RIGHT NOW?
>> I CAN'T GUARANTEE THE TWO YEARS IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH, HONESTLY. I AM BEING HONEST WITH YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY YES,
EVERYTHING WILL BE GREAT. >> I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU SAID I HAD THREE YEARS NOW INSTEAD OF TWO YEARS AND THEN
COME BACK AND SAY OH. >> I WILL SURRENDER TO THAT
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IDEA. >> YOU ARE RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW
ABOUT ALWAYS. >> YOU SAY NO MORE THAN THREE
>> WE DON'T LIKE THE GRAVEL, OUR PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, THEIR PASTOR DOESN'T LIKE IT, HIS WIFE DOES NOT LIKE IT. BUT IT'S BETTER THAN MUD. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO ACTION. NO, IT'S
NOT. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AND CAN PUT IN A GRAVEL PARKING LOT DID NOT EXCEED 30
LOTS. >> OKAY, WOULD YOU CONSIDER AMENDING YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE STAFF NOTES. ONE AND TWO?
>> SURE, WHAT ARE THEY? >> ONE IS THE GRAVEL PAVEMENT MUST BE DESIGNED BY A LICENSED.
>> ABSOLUTELY, YES. >> DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
THAT? >> BOTH OF THEM. OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING WE NEED CHANGED. INSTEAD OF TWO YEARS. UP TO 36
MONTHS. >> THE ORDINANCE WILL JUST CHANGE ON TO A FOUR WILL BE MARCH 25 OR 2028.
>> OKAY. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ANY OPPOSED? IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY.
STAFF, ANYTHING ELSE? NOTHING, COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? IF NOT I ENTERTAIN THE MOTION TO
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.