Apr 15, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission

[Call to Order and Determination of Quorum. ]

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A QUORUM. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM ONE. ON ANY TOPIC NOT CONSIDERED FOR , THE COMMISSION CANNOT ACT ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

IF YOU DO NOT FLOAT A FORM TO SPEAK TONIGHT, IF IT IS ON A PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE WILL CALL YOU WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY

[002 Staff review of the cases that were heard by City Council in the last sixty (60) days. ]

COUNCIL IN THE LAST 60 DAYS. >> CHAIR, HONORABLE COMMISSION.

AT THE MARCH 25TH COUNCIL MEETING , ASTRID ESTATES WAS HEARD, THE PREVIOUS VERSION. IT WAS DENIED WITH PREJUDICE 5-1.

FOSTER PROPERTY , PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR RETAIL USES WAS HEARD AND IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, 6-0. -- HILLS.

THAT WAS THE PD FOR SF 4 AND WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL 5-2.

THEY DID REMOVE THE MIXED-USE MULTI FAMILY TRACKED FROM THE APPROVAL. THE 7-ELEVEN ON ONWARD ROAD , AT THE APRIL 8TH MEETING WAS APPROVED, 6-0. THE ZONING CHANGE ADDED 20 FAMILY WAS APPROVED 6-0. THOSE WERE THE CASES. CEMENT QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE . >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> >> THERE WAS A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE.

[011 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance for a Zoning Change from Agricultural (A) District to a Single Family Residential Planned Development, being 48.59+ acres out of the W.M. M. Shofner Survey, Abstract 1300, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. The site is generally located northeast of Ashford Lane and South 14th Street. (Z12-2025-015)]

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS . SINCE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW FOLKS HERE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND SKIP OVER ON THE AGENDA AND GO TO ITEM 11.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PLAN DEVELOP, BEING 48.59 PLUS ACRES OUT OF THE W MM SURVEY, ABSTRACT 1300, THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS . THE SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTHEAST OF ASHFORD LANE AND SOUTH OF 14TH STREET.

>> COMMISSIONERS , CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?

>> YEAH. >> THIS REQUEST IS FROM AGRICULTURE TO PLANNING TO ELEMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUS . IT IS 32 LOTS INSTEAD OF 36. THE ZONING IS STILL -- THE SETBACK, AND THE LOTS ARE ONE ACRE OR LARGER. THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN MODULE. IT MEETS THE COMP ROOM GOALS OF BEING ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WE WANT TO NOTE THE COUNTRY MODULE DID CHANGE FROM ONE ACRE TO TWO ACRES IN OCTOBER. THERE IS NOT TESTING FOR THE COMP PLAN, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS AGRICULTURAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. THAT HAS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE IN THE MODULE. IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE IN A FAMILY MODULE. AND IS BOTH AGRICULTURAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES . THIS IS THE REVISED PLAN THAT HAS TRANSITION LOTS TO THE WEST , AND THE SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION. AND WILL ASK APPLICANT TO CORRECT OUT THE

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QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> OKAY. IF THE APPLICANT

PRESENT? >> TRACT -- YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER.

>> OKAY .

OKAY, WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO WISH TO SPEAK. I WILL CALL YOU UP. IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND KNOW IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY. YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS JARRETT FULLER.

>> I LOVE ABOUT 4021 ROLLINGWOOD LANE. EXCUSE ME. I HAVE NOW ATTENDED THREE C.R. WERELY MEETINGS IN ONE CITY COUNCIL TO HEAR THE PLANS FOR THIS PLOT. INITIALLY I WAS STRONGLY OPPOSED TO IT, AS WELL AS MY DAD WHO LIVES ON THE SAME STREET. MY FAMILY WAS OPPOSED TO IT AS WELL , BUT BECAUSE EARLY PLANS PROPOSED TURNING ROLLINGWOOD INTO A THOROUGHFARE CONNECTED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF ASHFORD. THE NUMBER OF , WITHOUT ONE ACRE LOTS, NOT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN . SOMETIMES CALLED THE COMP PLAN. I'VE SEEN THE SITE PLAN REVISED SEVERAL TIMES. I KNOW STRONGLY URGE THIS BOARD TO APPROVE THE PLAN. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE WORK IN THE ORGANIZATION THAT MR. COHEN IS DONE TO HOLD THE GOVERNMENT TO THE TWO ACRE MINIMUM , AND TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA. HOWEVER, I THINK THIS CASE IS THE RIGHT ONE TO SHOW A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY ON. YOU HAVE YOUR LOCAL DEVELOPER THAT EVERYONE DEGREES -- AGREES WILL DELIVER A HIGH DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE A STREET THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH THE LOT COUNT WAS DOWN TO 32. THAT IS QUITE CLOSE TO THE 24 THAT WOULD SATISFY THE TWO ACRE MINIMUM IF YOU THINK OF IT AS AN AVERAGE OVER THE 48 ACRE AREA. WITH THESE FACTORS, I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT IS NOW IN KEEPING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT FOR COUNTRY MODULE. A FEW NEIGHBORS HAVE TAKEN ISSUE WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE OUTLET AT THE CURRENT IDENTITY -- THE 90 DEGREE BLIND CORNER ON ASHFORD. I BELIEVE CITY PLANNING AND ENGINEERING SHOULD STUDY THIS AND COME UP WITH A GOOD PLAN TO MAKE THAT INTO A SAFE AND EFFICIENT INTERSECTION. IF DONE RIGHT, I THINK WOULD BE SAFER THAN THE CURRENT 90 DEGREES BLIND CORNER THAT IS THERE. THIS MAY TAKE A THREE-WAY STOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THEY COULD FIGURE THAT OUT. IN CLOSING, I LIKE TO REITERATE THAT THE CURRENT ESTATE PLAN FITS OUT OF THE AREA AND WILL HELP TO PRESERVE AND NOT DAMAGE THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD URGE

EVERYONE TO SUPPORT IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. DENNIS

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FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. >> CHERYL PARKER?

>> HELLO, MY CHERYL IS PARKER AND I LIVE IN 1887 ASTRO. I WAS NOT WITH THEM, APPARENTLY, THE 200 FEET. I REALLY HAVE A LOT OF HEART ACHE WITH THIS GOING IN THERE, ESPECIALLY AROUND THAT BENT. THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL ACCIDENTS THERE. I LIVE RIGHT WHERE THE THREE HOUSES ON ASHFORD BEFORE THE BAND RIGHT AT -- . AS SOON AS THAT STOP SIGN, I CAN TELL YOU, MANY TIMES, PEOPLE DO NOT STOP THERE. THE ROLE RIGHT THROUGH THERE. WE ARE GOING TO ADD ALL OF THESE HOUSES IN THEIR AND I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. HOWEVER, THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON ASHFORD AND -- DOES NOT WORK FOR ME, AS A LITTLE ROLLINGWOOD OR ROLLING LOCK OR WHATEVER THAT STREET IS THAT I DO NOT THINK IT IS SAFE THAT WE HAVE ONE ENTRANCE AND THERE. WHAT IF THERE IS TO BE A FIRE LIKE THERE WAS IN CALIFORNIA? ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THEIR . THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE THERE. THERE IS ALSO A FLOODING ISSUE. EVERY TIME IT RAINS, MY DRIVEWAY FLOODS . SOMETIMES IT GOES INTO MY BACKYARD AND MY HOUSE FLOODS.

I BUILT A SMALL HOUSE IN MY BACKYARD IN 2022. I HAD TO SIGN A RESTRICTED DEED SO THAT I WOULD NEVER RIGHT THAT PLACE OUT BECAUSE IT WOULD CAUSE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC. AND HERE WE GOT 22 MORE HOMES OR 24 MORE HOMES COMING IN. THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FAMILIES THAT LIVED THERE HAVE SAFETY FOR THEIR CHILDREN THAT WILL GO TO THAT SCHOOL UP THERE. BECAUSE I WATCHED A LITTLE BOY WHO MISSED THE BUS ONE DAY. IT SCARED THE DEATH OUT OF ME THAT HE RODE UP AND DOWN ASHFORD TO GET TO SCHOOL WHEN MOST PEOPLE DO NOT DRIVE 35. THEY DRIVE 40-45 ON THE ROADS. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE . IF IT GETS DONE , I WILL MORE THAN GLADLY SUPPORT THIS GENTLEMAN. BUT AS IT IS, IT IS NOT EVEN SAFE FOR ME TO GO WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO GET MY MAIL DURING THE DAYTIME. IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AREA DURING SCHOOL TIME , IF I DO NOT BACK MY CARPET IN THE DRIVEWAY TO

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I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> FOR THE RECORD, YOU ARE POST ?

>> YES, I AM OPPOSED. >> JUST WHAT IS ON THE RECORD.

>> I'M OPPOSED. IF THEY COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE , I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MAMMA. KEVIN COYNE ?

>> LAST P&Z. -- AND I HAD LUNCH TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT. WE GET ALONG , BUT WE ARE WAY UP POST ON THIS. A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS THAT LAST TIME YOU -- TO REACH OUT. HE HAD ONLY REACHED OUT TO ONE PERSON ABOUT THE PROPERTY AT THAT TIME. HE DID NOT REACH OUT TO ANY OF US. SO THE PEOPLE COME UP HERE. HE BORDERS ON IT THIS MUCH. THERE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT BORDERS THIS MUCH. THAT IS LESS THAN 4% OF THE BORDER. STAND UP. HE HAS GOT 18 ACRES ON THIS . EVERYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED. NOTHING OF GOTTEN ADDRESSED EXCEPT GAIT, GAIT, GAIT. ALTHOUGH THE LAST MEETING, FOR FIRE AND SAFETY, WE NEEDED A GAIT . AND NOW WE DO NOT NEED IT. IF THERE IS THAT WHEN IT WAS JUST FOR SAFETY, EVEN IF IT IS GOOD HUNDREDS, THOSE PEOPLE BACK THERE, YOU SOMETHING LACKING THAT TO TRY TO GET OUT OR ANYTHING, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A DISASTER. SO ALSO, IF YOU HAPPEN OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND COME OUT TO MR. LAMB'S HOUSE, YOU SEE HIS LAND IS HERE. THIS LAND IS UP HERE. WE ARE BEING TOLD THERE WILL BE NO DRAINAGE ISSUE. THAT HE COMPLIMENTED, DRAINAGE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IN THE CITY. WE DO NOT HAVE STORES UNLESS IT IS COMMERCIAL THAT WE HAVE CREEKS THAT FLOOD AND FLOOD AND FLOOD. I LIVE ON WHITEHEAD, WE ARE DOWN HERE. THERE IS FLOODING UP HERE THAT IS STANDING WATER WE HAVE HIGHER. ALL RIGHT. I AM GOING NORTHBOUND TOWARD THE INFAMOUS CORNER . THE NEXT ONE. WHERE THE CARGO? THE CAR IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. IT IS GONE. IT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US IN THAT DITCH.

NEXT ONE. WE ARE DOWN IN THE DITCH. THERE IS THE CAR. GO AGAIN. IT IS GONE. IT IS NOW IN THE INTERSECTION WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT STOP SIGNS. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE CARS BARRELING UP THERE.

IF YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE CARS AT THE STOP SIGN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WRECK. I LOVE THE COMMENT. WHO IN TEXAS STOPS AT STOP SIGNS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A BIG TRUCK? A ROLLING STOP. IF YOU HAVE NOT RULED THE STOP SIGN, YOU ARE TELLING A LIE. 72 ACRES SURROUNDED . NOBODY HAS ADDRESSED ANY OF THIS THE WHOLE TIME. HUNTER HAS NOT ADDRESSED IT WITH US . THE ONLY MEETING WE HAD WAS A WEEK AGO. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS NO GAIT .

THERE IS NO GAIT . AND THE PEOPLE, GOD BLESS THE FAMILY.

THEY WERE IN THEIR HOUSE -- AND MY HOUSE TALKING ABOUT THIS .

THEY DO NOT DELIVER BORDER ON IT. AND SOME OF THE OBJECTIONS, THERE IS ONE THAT LIVES IN OAKTREE WHO MADE AN OBJECTION AND HUNTER SAID I WILL DO SOME EXTRA THINGS FOR YOU. THAT KIND OF STUFF IS GOING ON AND HE PROBABLY LIVES WITHIN 200 FEET, BUT HE IS IN THE NEXT SUBDIVISION AND HE DOES THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY. THE PEOPLE THAT -- OKAY. 90% , YOU HAVE IGNORED US FROM THE START. 1.5 ACRES OF THE COMPROMISE, NOT

WHAT IS GOING ON. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. I HAVE ROBIN -- AS A NON-SPEAKER OPPOSED . IS THERE A CARD?

>> NOT ON THIS ONE? OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE I HAVE YOU ON. WHICH ONE

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DID YOU FILL OUT TWO FORMS, MA'AM?

>> LANCELOT CIRCLE? OKAY. GO AHEAD. -- NON-SPEAKER. IN SUPPORT, IS

THAT CORRECT? >>

>> OKAY. CHRIS, NON-SPEAKER. >> NOT HERE.

>>

>> JULIE PHILLIPS? NON-SPEAKER? OKAY. IN OPPOSITION. JOHN -- I CANNOT MAKE OUT THE LAST NAME. IS IT WALKER? 4621 SEVENTH LANE ? OKAY, IN OPPOSITION, NON-SPEAKER . SELENA? NON-SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION. WE HAVE GOT SOME MORE HERE.

-- IN OPPOSITION, NON-SPEAKER. I WILL MAKE SURE I GOT -- PHILLIPS? SHERRY BROWN, NON-SPEAKER . CHERYL PARKER NON-SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION. JOHN AND MONICA LAMB IN OPPOSITION.

ROBERT MIX IN OPPOSITION. NATHAN ARTHUR IN OPPOSITION.

>> OPPOSITION RUSTY'S BAR IN OPPOSITION. DID I MISS ANYBODY? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DID NOT MISS IT.

OKAY, IF YOU WOULD YEARS -- IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR

US? >>

>> OKAY. SOME OF THESE ARE DOUBLE FIND SO LET ME GO BACK.

I DON'T HAVE THOSE. IF YOU WOULD, LET US KNOW YOUR NAME AND WE WILL ENTER IT IN THE RECORD WITH YOUR POSITION. THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON THESE. I HOPE I DID NOT MISS ANYBODY. OKAY. I WILL

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>> A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR,

AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

>> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE

>> IS THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT?

>> IT IS ON THE RECOMMENDATION AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.

THE SETBACK IN THE -- >> THAT WAS A HOLDOVER FROM LAST TIME. I APOLOGIZE. HE IS GOING TO READ ALL THE SETBACKS . THAT

IS NOT A CONCERN ANYMORE. >> OKAY. AND YOU MAY HAVE THE ANSWER FROM THE APPLICANT. WHAT IS THE LOT SIZE WITH THE NEW

INAUDIBLE ]? >> IT IS AN ACRE .

>> I SAW THE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE I AM WRITING NOTES ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE.

ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS THE -- THAT WAS MENTIONED BY SOME OF THE SPEAKERS. YOU TOLD US WHAT MEDICATION WE ARE DOING TO HELP THE FLOODING ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY

>> YEAH. THESE ARE DONE BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HECK OF A LOT SMARTER THAN ME. SO WHEN THEY ARE SAYING THESE PROPERTIES ARE HERE AND DOWN HERE, WE HAVE TO MOVE ABOUT 72,000 YARDS . THAT IS THE STUFF THEY HAVE NOT SEEN. THIS WILL GET A LOT MORE LEVEL WITH THE OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY. WE ALSO BUILT REALLY RETENTION PONDS. WE DID INCREASE THE SIZE OF THOSE. IT WILL RETAIN THE WATER AND SAFELY DISPERSED UNDER THE CREEPER WE ARE ASKED. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO -- BUT NOT ALLOWED TO INCREASE THE OUTFLOWS, THE PREDEVELOPMENT OUTFLOWS . YEAH.

>> ON THE DIAGRAM OF THE NEW -- I THINK IT IS THE NORTHWEST SIDE. IT SAYS IT IS AN HOA LOT.

>> CORRECT. >> WHAT IS IT YOU ARE DOING IN THAT CORNER SPECIFICALLY? THAT'S THE CLOSEST

]. >> RIGHT THERE, I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO GET, THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY PLAT. WHEN I GET IT DRAWN AND WE HAVE TO GET TO THE PART OR A START FAVORING THE SYMBOLS WITH STAFF AND STUFF, IT WILL PROBABLY GET MORE INTENSE.

THEY WILL EITHER ACCEPT WHAT MY ENGINEER PRESENTS, OR THEY WILL MAKE US -- I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE STRUCTURE, BUT IT IS BASICALLY LIKE A LITTLE TOWER IN THE WATER RAISES A CERTAIN LEVEL. IT RAISES AND COMES UP IN THE BACK TO SAFELY TRAIN.

SOMETIMES THEY MAKE US BUILD TWO TO FOUR FOOT WITH THE WATER TO PREVENT EROSION. YEAH, THE REST OF EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE TREES. THERE IS NOT -- TO TOUCH ANY OF THAT.

>> CAN YOU TELL INAUDIBLE ]?

>> SO THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS -- I THINK YOU SUGGESTED MAYBE EVEN DOING A BLEND. IT IS GOING TO MAKE IT MORE PROFITABLE FOR ME, BUT I STILL WANT TO DO THE PROJECT. I TOOK IT OUT BECAUSE I SEE THEIR POINT. I NEVER WANTED TO CONNECT TO THAT TO BEGIN WITH. IT IS LIKE THE SAME SIZE AS THIS . THE CITY MADE ME BUILD, IT WAS LIKE A WEIRD HALF CUL-DE-SAC WITH THE CONNECTION TO THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY. HE IS NEVER GOING TO SELL, AND THAT WILL NEVER BE AN EAST-WEST CONNECTION THING. I DON'T KNOW WHY HAVE TO DO THIS. WHEN I FIRST HEARD IT IN MY MONUMENTAL HE DID THAT BECAUSE I KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO KICK IT BACK. WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EAST-WEST CONNECTION. I LOOK AT WHAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IS IN IF IT IS UNDER 39 LOTS, I BELIEVE, YOU CAN HAVE AS YOU MEET STANDARDS. I KNOW SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE DO NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT GOT UP AND SPOKE, BUT THEY ARE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTED, IN MY OPINION. BECAUSE THE ROAD IS SO SMALL.

THE ROADS ARE 30 FOOT WE HAVE TO BUILD OTHER PEOPLE ARE BUILDING A BIG TRUCK ON A 30 FOOT, THEY DO NOT NOTICE THE LITTLE -- THE

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>> THANK YOU. >> ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.

-- WITH THE STOP SIGN SOMETHING WE'RE ABLE TO ADD?

>> YEAH . STAFF IS FINE WITH THAT. -- REDUNDANT.

>> YEAH, WELL , IT IS SOMETHING WE PROBABLY, STAFF WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT AND SEE IF IT WARRANTS. IF TRAFFIC IS AS BAD AS THEY INDICATE , THE ACCOUNTS AND PATTERNS AND WHATNOT.

FORTUNATELY , YOU KNOW, I WILL JUST TELL YOU, THERE IS THIS CONSTANT BATTLE BETWEEN WHAT RESIDENTS THINK THE STOP SIGN WILL DO AND WHAT TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WILL TELL YOU IT CAN DO.

TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF STUDY FOR THE TRAFFIC. FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AND SEE IF IT REALLY DOES WARRANT IT. IT IS NOT USUALLY SOMETHING REQUIRED. BUT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC

CONTROL NATURE OF THE ITEM. >> YOU ALSO HAVE -- HERE IF YOU WANT TO ASK HIM DIRECTLY. I KNOW HE DOES , THAT IS WHY I AM

TRYING -- >>

>> YES, LOOKING AT -- THE ROAD COMING AT THAT INTERSECTION , THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A THREE-WAY FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT. IT WOULD NEED TO BECOME A THREE WAY STOP. THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND PROPOSE . WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE RECONFIGURATION ON THE EAST SIDE AS WELL TO MAKE THAT REALLY A T INTERSECTION. I KNOW YOU HAVE ALL ALONG ASHFORD , AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A NEW DRIVE COMING OUT FROM THE ROAD , IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A THREE-WAY STOP.

>> RIGHT NOW, IT IS DESIGNATED AS A -- A 60 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. I DO KNOW THAT IT WAS NEVER FOR THREE LANES, BUT IT WAS SET UP FOR A 60 FOOT, BY THE WAY. THAT IS MORE OF THE INTERSECTION YOU WOULD SEE. SO FROM THE PREVIOUS STANDPOINT, PUBLIC WORKS HAD IS THAT. IF THEY DO REHAB AT SOME POINT, YOU WILL SEE THIS AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL WITH DONNA FROM A REBUILT . THAT ENDS UP BEING A FUN PROJECT GOING TO THE COMMITTEE AND WOULD ULTIMATELY

GO TO THE VOTERS. >> SO MIKE, AS IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION, DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS?

>> I MEAN, AGAIN , THERE IS GOOD AND BAD ABOUT THE LAYOUT, RIGHT? AGAIN, THE REASON WHY YOU KIND OF SEE THE CONFEDERATION AS IT IS, WHICH IS KIND OF UNIQUE. IT IS BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO TIE INTO THE EXISTING ROLLINGWOOD LANE. SO THE INTENT WAS TO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC . AGAIN, THAT IS KIND OF A UNIQUE DESIGN. THE ROAD GOT SHIFTED UP TO THE NORTH AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF P&Z TO TRY TO GET THAT OUT THE NORTHERN INTERSECTION. AGAIN, THAT ALSO WOULD HELP DISCOURAGE THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC INSTEAD OF HAVING IT DOWN -- LIKE A STRAIGHT SHOT. IT KIND OF HAD TO GO IN AS A STRAIGHT SHOT THROUGH THERE. AGAIN, I MEAN, OUR JOB, WHEN WE GOT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAN THEIR IS ROADS AND TO HAVE THE CONNECTION , THAT IS WHAT STAFF HAS TO RECOMMEND BASED ON OUR REQUIREMENTS . AGAIN, TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS DISCONNECTED MEANS HE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. AND COUNCIL CAN SAY, YES, WE LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION. I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH FOLKS OFF OF ROLLINGWOOD. IF THE CONNECTION WAS MADE, IT WOULD -- ON OTHER

ROADS AS WELL. >> OKAY. BUT AS IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION, IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT ,

>> I MEAN, SO WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT A LOT OF CONCERNS WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES BEFORE THE P&Z COUNCIL. I WAS NOT MADE AWARE, AGAIN, THAT THERE WERE LARGE CONCERNS THAT THERE WERE ACCIDENTS HAPPENING ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE, BUT IT IS NOT GETTING RELATE TO ENGINEERING OR PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT

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IT IS TO BASICALLY NOT MAKE THEM ANY WORSE. THE PREDEVELOPMENT FLOW WOULD NEED TO BE MAINTAINED AND CONTROLLED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, I WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE DOWNSTREAM ISSUES WITH FLOODING NOW UNTIL AT THESE MEETINGS. I DO KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF IN THE

PAST. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I BELIEVE IT IS 35. THAT IS PRETTY TYPICAL ON THESE TYPES OF

ROADS, YES, SIR. >>

>> IT IS A GOOD WAYS. IT IS BASICALLY, AND IT STARTS -- IN AN AREA . IF YOU CONTINUE TO GO TO -- THEY ARE ALL THE WAY DOWN UNTIL YOU GET TO

AWAY. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? >> THANK YOU. OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, THE FLOORS OPEN FOR A MOTION.

>>

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. I THINK THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED . THIS IS A GOOD PLAN AND I DO THINK AS PRESENTED. YEAH, WITH THE

MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL IN

FAVOR, AYE? >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED ? IT DOES PASS . OKAY, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE

[004 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance relating to the use and development of 167.3+ acres in the Allen Reeves Survey, Abstract No. 939, and H. Woodward Survey, Abstract No. 1131, by changing the zoning from Agricultural (A) District to Planned Development No. 186 (PD-186) for a data center subject to development regulations; and Light Industrial (LI) District uses. The property is generally located at the southeast corner of Gifco Road and Quarry Road. (Z30-2024-131)]

ALL RIGHTS. ITEM 004. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE USE AND ABILITY OF 167 PLUS ACRES IN THE ALLEN RAY SURVEY, ABSTRACT 939, AND CAPITAL H WOODWARD SURVEY , ABSTRACT 13 -- 1031, BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 186 FOR A DATA CENTER SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS , AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT USES. THE PROPERTIES GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GIFCO

ROAD AND QUARRY ROAD. >> THANK YOU. IF YOU SEE HER, IS WHAT I WILL CALL THE WESTERN LIMIT OF GIFCO ROAD . IS AT THE CORNER OF QUARRY ROAD AND GIFCO ROAD. WE SEE IT OVER HERE, AND HANSEN CONCRETE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS IS FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR DATA HALLS , 820,000 SQUARE FEET EACH. THEY WILL COME ALONG WITH THEIR OWN POWER PLANTS TO SERVE EACH HALL INDEPENDENTLY.

THERE'LL BE A SUBSTATION AS WELL AS THE ON-SITE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. THIS IS SPLIT KIND OF TWO THIRDS AND A THIRD FROM COUNTRY MODULE AND CORPORATE MODULE. COUNTRY MODULE BE ON THE WESTERN CORPORATE MODULE BEING CLOSER TO THE INDUSTRY THERE.

THIS IS JUST A SURVEY SHOWING THAT THEY ARE ON THE CORNER OF GIFCO ROAD AND QUARRY ROAD. THERE WILL BE A DEDICATION ON

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INAUDIBLE ] EXPAND JOB OPPORTUNITIES. THESE WILL EXPAND BOTH THOSE GOALS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THIS BORDERS ON THE CORNER OF GIFCO ROAD AND QUARRY ROAD. QUARRY ROAD IS DESIGNATED AS A MAJOR ARTERIAL. 6 LANE DIVIDED AT SOME POINT. IT WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE HALF OF THE ULTIMATE RIGHT AWAY DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR IMPROVEMENT AS WELL AS THE IMPROVEMENT ALONG QUARRY ROAD. I DO BELIEVE GIFCO ROAD WILL BE IMPROVED AS WELL. THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SLATED TO GO AT THE END OF QUARRY ROAD, OF 67. I THINK THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PRIOR TO PLANNING. DISCIPLINARY LAYOUT. THE BUILDING ABCD. ALL OF THESE ARE APPROXIMATELY 820,000 SQUARE FEET. SO GIFCO ROAD IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR , AN EAST HAPPEN -- EAST WEST CONNECTOR. AND THEN RECONFIGURE THE AREA THROUGH HERE, CURRENTLY GIFCO ROAD TAKES -- AS SOON AS YOU CROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND HEADS WEST.

THEY WILL KIND OF SURF IN THIS CURVE RIGHT HERE. WITHIN THE SITE PLAN, YOU HAVE THE VARIOUS DATA CENTERS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CORRESPONDING POWER CENTERS WITH THOSE. SO THAT WILL BE ALL IN PHASES . THOSE ARE CORRESPONDING PHASES, ABCD. HERE WE HAVE ANOTHER VIEW OF THE BUILDINGS AND SITE PLANS. THE SITE PLAN, SO THIS IS THE TYPICAL SITE PLAN. THERE IS SOME ADJUSTMENT AND THERE IS SOME ABILITY TO CHANGE THIS A LITTLE BIT. WHEN THOSE CHANGES COME ACROSS, FEAR MINOR CHANGES , THEY WILL BE APPROVED THROUGH PLANNING AND ENGINEERING. THE BASE LOADING ON THIS IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THIS, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE HEAVIER MEDIAN PAYSITE ON THEIR. YOU WILL BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THERE IS A VARIANCE OF 90 FEET . THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS 75 FEET. WITH MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WITH THINGS THAT WILL BE SCREENED AND THINGS THAT CAN GO UP TO 90 FEET. ILL BE A TILT WALL BUILDING, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THAT METAL PANEL SURROUNDING THAT THERE.

THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE ELEVATIONS ON THESE BUILDINGS.

THESE ARE 830,000 SQUARE FOOT. THESE ARE LARGE, LARGE BUILDINGS. THESE WILL BE REALLY NOT VISIBLE FROM THE 67 AT ALL THAT THEY MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY VISIBLE FROM 287 AS YOU COME INTO TOWN FROM THE WEST. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE EIGHT FOOT TALL DECORATIVE IRON FENCE MAINLY FOR SECURITY IN THIS AREA. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A RENDERING OF THE ELEVATIONS. SO THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ROUGHLY JUST ABOUT 3.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET. THEY WOULD HAVE A PERFORMING -- CONFIRMING PARKING AGREEMENT WITH OVER 1000 SPACES. THEY WILL MEET THE ORDINANCE THERE. AND THE DETAILED LANDSCAPE PLANS WILL BE SUBMITTED WITH EACH PHASE, AND THEY WILL CONFORM TO OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE. LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, THE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE AND FENCE . THESE ARE SOME VARIOUS OPTIONS THEY HAVE PROPOSED. ALL OF THESE CONFORM TO THAT 830,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY ARE OUT THERE DOING GEOTECH RIGHT NOW, LOOKING AT THE SITE. SO THESE MIGHT BE SOME SLIGHT CHANGES , BUT LIKE I SAID EARLIER, EACH PHASE WILL QUARREL -- CORRESPOND AS WELL AS THE POWER PLANT. ANY CHANGES SIMILAR TO THIS CAN BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO LETTERS HAVE GONE OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FROM THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THIS REZONING FOR THE DATA CENTER. APPLICANTS ARE HERE IF THERE ARE FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THEM, AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS

THE COMMISSION HAS. >> QUESTIONS?

>> I THINK I MISSED PART OF THE CONVERSATION. WHAT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING ROADWAY IS PROPOSED?

>> RIGHT NOW, THEY WILL IMPROVE QUARRY ROAD TO THE SOUTHERN

LIMITS OF THEIR PROPERTY. >> AND YOU PULL THAT UP?

>> YES, SIR. SO RIGHT HERE , HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO IMPROVE

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>> YES, SIR. IN THIS USE, SOMEONE BROUGHT ABOUT METRO SEVERAL YEARS AGO. MANUFACTURING INSTITUTION. THIS IS A DATA CENTER.

REALLY, AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL BE LIMITING THE TRAFFIC ON THIS. BUT THE CONSTRUCTION WILL IMPACT THIS ROAD. THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT DOING PAVEMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT RIGHT HERE.

WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS TAKE THE ROAD DOWN, LOOK AT WHAT THE ROAD CONDITION IS AFTER-THE-FACT , AND THEN TRY TO DETERMINE THE PROPORTIONALITY BETWEEN ASH GROVE, HANSEN , AND THEIR IMPACT AND GO FROM THERE. THIS IS SLATED TO BE ON OUR REHAB PROGRAM AT SOME POINT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOUCH IT FOR A

WHILE. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> SO -- WHAT IS THE -- GOING TO BE OUT THERE?

>> THIS IS A LAND-USE CASE, SO WE REALLY DO NOT LOOK AT THAT

TOO MUCH. >> OKAY, ANOTHER QUESTION. I CERTAINLY DO NOT KNOW HOW ELECTRICITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE IMPACT IS THAT SINCE THEY HAVE THOSE POWER PLANTS THERE, WILL THAT IMPACT ANYBODY ELSE YOU EXPECT NO, SIR. IT WILL BE

INAUDIBLE ] . >> OKAY.

>> THOSE REL QUESTIONS -- CAN ANSWER A LOT BETTER THAN I CAN.

>> OKAY, IN THE PACKET IS THAT IT IS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 75 FEET. THEY WERE ASKING FOR 60. THEY WERE REQUESTING 75 BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS ARE 60. BUT YOU ARE SAYING IT'S 90?

>> YES, MA'AM. THEY WERE REQUESTING 75 WITH THE ABILITY FOR THE MECHANICAL TO GO AN ADDITIONAL 15 FEET ABOVE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE KILLERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD ALL BE REQUIRED TO BE SCREENED ON TOP OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

>> OKAY. AND THEN -- >> IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE SCREEN WOULD LOOK LIKE. JUST MENTAL PANELS UP THERE. YOU CANNOT SEE THE -- OF WHAT WAS UP THERE.

>> IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, THIS HAS

>> YES, MA'AM. AND I THINK THE PARKING RATIO IS 1:3000. YEAH.

ONE SPACE PER 3100 SQUARE FEET . THAT IS THE PARKING RATIO WE

HAVE FOR DATA CENTERS. >> FROM DATA CENTERS --

INAUDIBLE ]. >> THIS IS OVER 3.2 MILLION OF OFFICE SPACE OR DATA CENTERS. SO YOU KNOW , I THINK THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT. I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY EMPLOYEES IT WILL HAVE. I KNOW ALL OF THESE SPACES, THEY HAVE AN INFLUX AND IT KIND OF FLOWS DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT MEETINGS. SWITCHING OUT SERVERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO SOMETIMES THEY WILL HAVE AN INFLUX OF WORKERS AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY WORKERS. IN THE WAY, THE GUN, THESE GUYS SHOULD BE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY SOME OF THE OTHER DATA CENTERS ARE, IF THEY WILL GET BUILT AND THEY WILL WAIT A LITTLE WHILE. 18 MONTHS, 24 MONTHS, AND THEN THEY START THE NEXT PHASE THAT WILL HAVE THE EMPLOYEES FOR THE FIRST DATA CENTER CAPITAL EIGHT IDEALS OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND EMPLOYEES FOR DATACENTER B AT THE SAME TIME. YOU WILL HAVE JUST A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT WORKERS AT THAT SITE.

>> OKAY. AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS , THE ONE TIME I -- ON PURPOSE WAS TO GO AM SEEING OUR ALONG 67.

>> I MEAN, THAT IS -- THAT IS TYPICALLY, YOU HAVE GOT ASH

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>> LIKE I TALKED TO MR. HILL ABOUT, THERE WAS AN ASSESSMENT ON. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY PLAN ON HOWEVER THEY WILL BUILD ALL OF THE PHASES. I ASSUME IT IS GOING TO BE OVER , ONCE AGAIN, TALKING TO THESE GUYS. 5-7 YEARS. AT THE END OF THAT 5-7 YEARS, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS. AT THE END OF THAT TIME, WE WILL HAVE TO FIERCELY LOOK AT GOING IN THERE AND REBUILDING A PROPER ROAD.? I MEAN, THE TRUCKS THAT ARE ON THE RIGHT, THEY ARE HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS. THEY PUNISH RHODES. SO, YEAH, YOU WILL HAVE THE INTERMINGLING . JUST LIKE THERE ARE NOW. YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THESE PLACES THAT DO NOT DRIVE TRUCKS ALL THE TIME. THEY ARE DRIVING THEIR SEDANS OUT

THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> I MEAN, CAN YOU

]? >> IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE

SOUTHBOUND HERE. >> I KNOW THAT IS WHAT IS

EXISTING NOW . >> OH, I AM SORRY. BLUEBONNETS.

YEAH, THAT IS PROBABLY A MILE. THAT IS AT THE END OF QUARRY

ROAD. TO THE LEFT. >> OKAY, IS BLUEBONNET GOING TO

HAVE ACCESS TO QUARRY ROAD? >> YES, MA'AM. ULTIMATELY, REMEMBER WHAT I SAID. QUARRY ROAD WILL BE 120 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, SIX LANES DIVIDED SOMEDAY. SO, I MAY, THIS WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT ONCE ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. OBATA, DATACENTER, ET CETERA & .

>> IS APPLICANT PRESENT AND WISHING TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. I AM NOT SHOWING ANYBODY SIGNED UP . DID ANYBODY

SIGN UP? >>

>> THE APPLICANT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY, THEY ARE HERE. >> YES, THEY ARE HERE.

>> OKAY, COME ON UP.

>> I AM GLAD HERE ACTING WITH DIGITAL VALIDITY, THE DEVELOPER.

AND WITH THE DIGITAL REALITY DESIGN TEAM. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS IN GENERAL ABOUT OUR COMPANY AND WHAT WE DO AROUND THE GLOBE IN THE ADJACENT LAND

>> OKAY . >> SO THIS IS A GLOBAL COMPANY TRADED ON THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE. AROUND $70 BILLION.

LOOK AT WHERE DEVELOP DATA CENTERS ACROSS THE GLOBE. ON THE AMOUNT OF THOSE IN THE UNITED STATES. OUTSIDE OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA, DALLAS, AND CHICAGO AREAS ARE OUR TWO LEGITIMATE AREAS. WHEN EXPANDED A HECK OF A LOT -- INTO RICHARDSON, GARLAND, AND LOUISVILLE. IT SEEMS LIKE -- MIGHT BE A PLACE FOR US TO DEVELOP , BASED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE. WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO BUILD THESE WITH CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT COME UP.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND WE THINK THIS IN -- IS AN AN

IDEAL LOCATION FOR THAT. >> SO FROM START TO THE FINISH OF THE PROJECT, WHAT ARE WE TALKING?

>> FROM THE INITIAL DESIGN AS WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY , EACH PHASE WILL PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT 2 1/2 YEARS. YOU KNOW, THAT IS TO THE PROCESS OF CLIENTS AND MARKETING AND WHATNOT . THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL WORK TAKES ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. AND THEN WE HAVE INTERIOR FOR THAT , AS PAUL MENTIONED. THAT GOES HAND-IN-HAND WITH OUR STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN. WE DO NOT JUST BUILD IT ALL -- WE TYPICALLY WAIT FOR CUSTOMER, AND THEN THEY

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>> SO YOU COULD BUILD PHASE ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN YOU HAVE A

CUSTOMER? >> WE WILL BUILD THE CUL-DE-SAC WHICH IS THE STRUCTURE, AND A POWER VOICE LANGUAGES -- FOR EMPLOYEES. IN THE TECHNICAL SIDE WHICH ARE THE DATA HALLS. THAT USUALLY GOES HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE CUSTOMER, OR WE WILL BUILD IT TO MARKET. THIS MARKET WE ARE TODAY, THEY PRETTY MUCH COME PRETTY QUICK. USUALLY BUILDING WITH THE INTENT TO DELIVER

SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. >> SO HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WOULD YOU HAVE PER BUILDING? WOULD IT VARY?

>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. DEVELOP -- DEVELOPMENT GARLAND IS AN 8000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING AND I AM OCCUPYING ABOUT 45 EMPLOYEES THERE. WE CAN TO THIS BUILDING WEEKLY HUB FOR SO THEY SPOKE. THE CAMPUS WE COULD HAVE ONE MAJOR HUB AND THEN KIND OF REMOTE OFFICES, IF YOU WILL. BUT THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE A HUB. FILLING THAT LAND.

>> I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE DATA CENTER SO IT IS A MIX BETWEEN THE VENDORS AND THE -- INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE THERE. THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THE PROJECT. IT IS PEOPLE ALSO WORKING FOR THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES. SO I NOTICE A LITTLE RICHER THAN YOU WOULD BUILD.

>> IT IS A 24/7 OPERATION, SO THERE ARE SHIFTS, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT AT A PLANT.

>> THAT BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION.

>> 24/7. KEEPING -- IN MIND WITH THE STRETCH GOAL. MAKE IT THE MOST ENERGY-EFFICIENT AND MOST APPLICABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS

WELL. >> SO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION PHASES , CONSTRUCTION FOR EACH PHASE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC, RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. >> IT WOULD JUST BE EMPLOYEES OR

CONTRACTORS COMING IN? >> OR DELIVERIES IF SOMEBODY IS BUILDING A WHOLE NEW RACK OF SERVERS . THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE ABOUT EVERY YEAR AND A HALF.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, FOLKS ?

>> YOU MENTIONED

>> AT LEAST A DOZEN. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY NUMBERS. I MEAN, WE ARE IN THE MAJOR MARKETS . YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND IF THE BUILDING FOUR SEPARATE PHASES? AND DIRTY HAVE A POTENTIAL TENANT LINED UP FOR A COUPLE

PHASES? >> IT IS HARD TO MARKET IT UNTIL WE HAVE SOME APPROVAL. WE CAN PUT IT OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE 1.5. I THINK THE TIMING THAT WAS EXPRESSED EARLIER OF 5-7 YEARS IS ABOUT RIGHT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON, OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE MOTIVATED TO DO IT AND FILL THIS SPACE UP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IT JUST TAKES A WHILE AS JASON POINT IT OUT, CONTRACTS. AND THEN TO DO THAT ONE-TWO CUSTOMERS FOR PHASE.

INAUDIBLE ] . >> SO IS THERE A PRICE FOR EACH

STATION, OR THOSE SUBSTATIONS? >> RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT INAUDIBLE ]. WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT, YES.

>> IN THE ROAD IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION A CONCERN?

>> I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT DRIVEN IT. I HAVE HEARD AND I

UNDERSTAND. >>

>> BUT HONESTLY, WE ARE ANXIOUS TO DEVELOP .

>> WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION.

>> YEAH. >> THANK YOU.

>> WATER AND ELECTRICITY USAGE. I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT

GAS LINES. WHAT IS THE DRUG? >> SO IF BUILDING IS DESIGNED RIGHT NOW AT 120 MEGAWATTS.

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MEGAWATTS OF CONCEPTION. >> MOST WATERS ARE CIRCULATED -- NOT A DEMAND FOR OUTSIDE WATER.

>> OKAY . YOU HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH STAFF ABOUT QUARRY ROAD AND GIFCO ROAD ADJACENT YOUR BOUNDARIES .

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, THIS IS OUR CIVIL CONSULTANT FROM

WESTWARD. >> EITHER ANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES

? >> -- WITH WESTWOOD. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE ROADS AROUND, EVERYTHING HAS PRETTY MUCH -- AS FAR AS WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR QUARRY ROAD AND GIFCO ROAD. YEAH, EVERYTHING, I MEAN, QUARRY ROAD AND GIFCO ROAD ARE PRETTY MUCH STANDARD CODE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF

THIS NATURE. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> SINCE THIS IS SPECULATIVE, RIGHT? YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TENANTS . ON ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT YOU HAVE DEVELOPED, HAVE YOU GONE IN ANY OTHER DIRECTION OTHER THAN A DATA CENTER?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM NOT SHOWING ANYBODY SIGNED UP . ARE WE MISSING ANYBODY? OKAY, IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION

TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOTION TO CLOSE .

>> 2ND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND

. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. >> AYE.

>> IT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

[005 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance relating to the use and development of 12.689+ acres in the Marcellus T. Hawkins Survey, Abstract No. 463, and Benjamin F. Hawkins Survey, Abstract No. 464, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas, by amending and restating the development and use regulations of Planned Development District No. 81 (PD-81) relating to such tract, and granting a Specific User Permit (SUP) for a helipad subject to development regulations. The property is generally located at the northwest corner of S. 14th Street and Hawkins Run Road. (Z06-2025-007)]

ESTIMATED. >> 2ND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED?

>> THANK YOU. >> ITEM 005. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE USE AND MOVEMENT OF 12.689 PLUS ACRES IN THE MARCELLUS HAGEN SURVEY, ABSTRACT 463, AND BENJAMIN F. HAWKINS SURVEY, ABSTRACT 464, CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, BY AMENDING AND RESTATING THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE REGULATIONS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 81 RELATING TO SUCH A TRACT , AND GRANTING A SPECIFIC USER PERMIT OR A GILA PAD SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH 14TH STREET IN HAWKINS RUN ROAD.

>> CHAIRMAN, SO THIS IS A MEDICAL CLINIC ON 12.7 ACRES. IT IS A MODULE WHICH DOES ALLOW A MIXTURE OF FACILITIES. IT DOES MEET SEVERAL OF OUR COMP PLAN GOALS. THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND WEST ARE RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, AND OFFICE USES. TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE OFFICES, GENERAL PROFESSIONAL OFFICES. AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL. THE PROPERTY IS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, 68. TO THE NORTH, IT IS PD 118. SO THE MET PARK DEVELOPMENT AND TO THE WEST IS THE KROGER SITES. SO THE MAIN ACCESS IS OFF OF SOUTH 14TH STREET. THEY ARE PROPOSING IMPROVEMENTS TO PROVIDE A MEDIAN OPENING, AS WELL AS A LEFT TURN LANE AND DECELERATION LANE. THEY ARE RELOCATING THE SIDEWALKS AND TYING THEM INTO THEIR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. THE HELIPAD SITE IS , NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT. SO THE HELIPAD SITE IS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE. THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON IT THAT IT MUST

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THAT IS PRIMARILY ENGAGED IN FURNISHING ON AN OUTPATIENT BASIS. MEDICAL, SURGICAL, MEDICAL IMAGING OR OTHER SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS. WE TALKED ABOUT LOW ACUITY VERSUS HIGH ACUITY. SO HOSPITALS ARE MORE FOR LONG-TERM CARE. IT IS AN INSTITUTION THAT PROVIDES HELP FOR THE ACUTELY SICK OR INJURED, AND IT GENERALLY , THERE WOULD BE OVERNIGHT STAYS WITH THAT USE.

I WILL NOT GOING TO THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OF IT. I WILL JUST TOUCH ON THE VARIANCES. THERE IS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO PROVIDE A RATIO THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER MEDICAL USES IN THE AREA.

THE SQUARE FOOT OF FLOOR AREA. CURRENTLY IN HIS ONE SPACE PER 400.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THEY ARE MEETING OR EXCEEDING EVERYTHING NEEDED FOR THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THE OTHER VARIANCES ARE RELATED TO THE SIGNAGE. THEY ARE ASKING FOR VARIANCE TO ALLOW 900 SQUARE FEET VERSUS 600 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING SIGNAGE. WANTING TO PUT BUILDING SIGNS ON TWO ELEVATIONS, AND ASSIGNED NOT TO BE FRAMED BY THOSE ARE THE SIGNAGE EXPERIENCES . BRIEFLY, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED LAST TIME. THE COMMISSION HAD ASKED US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE EASEMENT TO THE NORTH. THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER LOOKED AT THE TWO -- AND DETERMINE IF FOR SOME REASON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED CLOSER OF THE ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE NORTH, THAT IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE T.I.A. IT WOULD STILL BE OF VIABLE SOLUTION. HOWEVER, STAFF IS STILL RECOMMENDING THE CONNECTION OCCUR BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE ACCESS TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BEING INSTALLED TO THE NORTH. WE SEE THOSE AS COMPATIBLE USES. SO THE STAFF AND APPLICANT WILL DEFER TO THE COMMISSION ON THIS. HOWEVER, WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHAT THE ACCESS WAS DESIGNED TO DO. WE JUST ARE NOTHING ANY BENEFIT OF CLOSING IT. THE OTHER QUESTION WAS , I BELIEVE, ABOUT SCHOOL TRAFFIC. I MAY LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK MORE ON THIS. BUT THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY HAS A PLAN FOR PICKING UP , AND IT INVOLVES QUEUING ALONG THE SOUTH OF 14TH STREET , AND ALONG WITH ANY OTHER SCHOOL, THEY HAVE TO ALLOW EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO PASS IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. OTHER ANY QUESTIONS? STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. TWO PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE NORTH.

>> CAN YOU OUTLINE FOR US ALL OF THE VARIANCES? I AM NOT SEEING

INAUDIBLE ]. >> YES, MA'AM. SO SIGNAGE , 900 SQUARE FEET IN SIGNAGE VERSUS 600 SQUARE FEET. BUILDING SIGNS ON NORTHERN TWO ELEVATIONS. A MONUMENT SIGN IS NOT FRAMED BY MASONARY MATERIAL. THOSE OF THE FREE SIGNAGE ONCE, AND THE OTHER IS THE PARKING. IT WOULD BE 250 VERSUS ONE TO 400. METHODIST

ALSO ASKED FOR THAT >> SO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HELIPORT , THE REGULATIONS ,

THE HOSPITAL? >> THOSE CRITERIA, THE ONES THEY ESTABLISHED , IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LARGE INFLUX OF PATIENTS INTO THE FACILITY THROUGH THE HELIPAD. THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS THAT SOMEBODY WERE TO COME TO

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>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. IF THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND WISHING TO SPEAK? IF YOU FOLKS CAN IDENTIFY YOURSELVES AND WHO YOU ARE WITH.

>> MY NAME IS JOHN SULLIVAN, AND I'M WITH THE TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES CORPORATE OFFICES IN ARLINGTON, TEXAS. I PREPARED A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD LAST NIGHT.

>> GOT IT? OH, THAT IS A PDF. OKAY, YES.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I ALSO HAVE OUR ARCHITECT BACK WITH US , AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. HERE WE GO. SO THE FIRST THING -- THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY, AND I MENTIONED IT LAST NIGHT. THIS IS A NON-FOR PROFIT HEALTHCARE.

WE OWN A LOT MORE THAN JUST HOSPITALS. WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE U.S.. EMERGENCY CARE, SURGICAL SERVICES, REHAB, WOMEN'S HEALTH. WE HAVE A LOT OF PHYSICIAN PRACTICES AND EMPLOY MORE THAN 1000 POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA. AND SEVERAL OTHER MEDICAL SERVICES. SO ONE THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS, NORMALLY DO NOT DO THIS, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW THE COMMISSION. WE ACTUALLY DID A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF ALL THE SPACE. WE LOOK AT EVERY ONE OF THESE SITES IN QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL IT. WE ACTUALLY HAD ANOTHER PARCEL ON NINTH STREET UNDER CONTRACT FOR A WHILE, WORKING WITH THE CITY. WE DECIDED THAT WAS NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR US AND WE NEEDED TO DROP IT. SO -- HUGGINS AND 14TH STREET. AFTER WE DROPPED THE OTHER LOCATION, I ACTUALLY WORKED WITH CITY STAFF . WE LOOK AT THE ZONING . THIS ZONING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL. ALL OF OUR USES ARE CONFORMING WITH THE ZONING. WE HAD A TRAFFIC ENGINEER REHIRED TO LOOK AT THE OTHER SITE THAT WE USED THEM TO HELP US EVALUATE THIS SITE.

BEFORE WE PROCEEDED WITH THE CONTRACT , OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE THE FULL SUPPORT , A REAL ESTATE BROKER SUPPORT. THE OTHER PERSON WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH WAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPER IN THE CITY. SO YOU PROBABLY SEEN THE SITE PLAN. THE ONLY THING I WOULD POINT OUT -- I WILL JUST KEEP GOING FORWARD. I WILL SKIP THAT SLIDE. I AM NOT TOUCHING IT AND IT IS MOVING. OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO DO? OKAY, RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. I THINK IN THE NEXT LIGHT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IS. IT IS ON THE NORTHERN SIDE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE HELIPAD. YOU CAN SEE THE DASHED MARKET AREA ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THAT IS PHASE 2.

THAT IS A FUTURE PHASE. IN PHASE TWO IS WHAT WE CALL THE AMATORY SURGERY CENTER. IT IS ALSO CALLED A SUP -- YOU WALK IN, HAVE YOUR SURGERY , AND HE WALK OUT THE SAME DAY. IT IS NOT SUPER INVASIVE . THOSE ARE THE TWO USES WE PLAN ON HAVING THEIR. OKEY, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY, I PUT THIS SLIDE IN HERE JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT WAS

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THIS IS KIND OF A DETAILED LOOK AT THE BUILDING OF THE FIRST FLOOR ON THE NORTH AND TO THE RIGHT. HAVE A LOBBY ENTRYWAY .

YOU CAN HAVE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, AND THERE IS A CENTRAL SPINE RUNNING ON IT FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH. THERE IS PHYSICAL THERAPY WHICH WILL BE ON THE FRONT SIDE. THERE IS A LAB ON THE FRONT SIDE AND IMAGING ON THE BACK. IN THE LOBBY ON THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY. IF WE END UP EXPANDING, THAT LOBBY WILL NOT ONLY SERVE AS PHASE ONE, BUT IT WILL ALSO SERVE AS PHASE TWO. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SECOND FLOOR. WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THE EXACT POSITIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS SPACE. IT IS 50,000 SQUARE FOOT OF SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. SO OUT OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT, 15,000 FEET WILL BE POSITIONED PRACTICES. AND I TOOK HIM I THINK, 1750 FEET HERE , WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD AVERAGE. SUMMER 1500 AND SUMMER AROUND 2000 SQUARE FEET. THAT GETS YOU ABOUT NINE POSITIONS OF DIVIDERS. OKAY. AGAIN, WE ARE ASKING FOR A PARKING VARIANCE. A SIGNAGE VARIANCE . THERE IS AN ARCHITECTURAL VARIANCE AND FOR THE HELIPAD. AND THE QUESTIONS LAST MONTH , MARY DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB . SO WE DID LOOK AT THE SCHOOL QUESTION. THE SCHOOL ZONE TIMES , THE SCHOOL HAS AN AMAZING VIDEO. YOU CAN LOOK ONLINE AND IT SHOWS YOU HOW TO DROP YOUR KIDS OFF AND HOW TO PICK THEM UP. CAN YOU JUMPED TWO AHEAD? RIGHT HERE. SO THE YELLOW AREA ON 14TH AND THE YELLOW AREA ON HAWKINS RUN ROAD IS THE SCHOOL ZONE. ON 14TH STREET, THERE IS AN IN AND OUT RIGHT WHERE YOU SEE THE LINES, THE REDLINES MOVING TO THE RIGHT . THEY ACTUALLY CLOSED THAT MEDIAN , MAKE EVERYBODY TRAVEL DOWN SOUTH , MAKE A U-TURN ON 14TH STREET. IT IS TWO LANES HEADING NORTH. THEY ASK EVERYBODY TO STACK ON THE RIGHT-HAND LANE SO WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES WITH THE CUEING. PLUS THE OTHER THING ON A SUNDAY, IS I DROVE INTO THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT IN A CAR. IT IS A HUGE STACKING AREA.

THEY HAVE REALLY DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE STACKING.

MARY DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. IT IS URGENT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SICK OR IN AN ACCIDENT OR BREAK SOMETHING, YOU CAN GO IN. YOU DO NOT NEED AN APPOINTMENT. THERE EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIANS ARE THERE TO STABILIZE YOU. WE HAVE TWO OF THESE. I ASKED FOR STATISTICS ON THE ONE WE HAVEN'T ROLLED MET PARK AND WE ALSO HAVE ONE IN IT IS IN THE HIGH 90% OF THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP, THEY LEAVE THE SAME DAY. A FEW PEOPLE ARE MORE CRITICALLY SICK. MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE TRANSPORTED BY AN AMBULANCE TO ANOTHER FACILITY IF THEY NEED AN OVERNIGHT STAYED OUT THERE ARE NO OVERNIGHT STAYS IN THIS FACILITY. AN OUTPATIENT SURGERY CENTER , YOU KNOW, A GOOD WAY FOR ME TO DESCRIBE THAT WOULD BE THE SURGERY. YOU CAN COME IN IN THE MORNING , HAVE YOUR SURGERY, AND YOU LEAVE THE SAME DAY. THE DRIVE CONNECTION, I MEAN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE THE DRIVE, WE ARE HAPPY FOR THE DRIVE TO BE THERE.

PERSONALLY, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED THAT. THEY THINK THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING AND DRIVING UNDER OUR PROPERTY AND DRIVE ALL THE WAY ACROSS IT AND GET ON HAWKINS. WE HAD A 50 FOOT ENTRYWAY WITH THE DIESEL LANE . THAT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER, IN MY VIEW, TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR SIGHT. THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR SITE. BUT IF THE COMMISSION SAYS NO, WE DO NOT WANT THAT RIGHT HERE, WE WILL -- EITHER WAY.

WE ARE REALLY PROUD OF THE FACILITY HERE. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU SORT OF THE FRONT VIEW OF THE BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE, IT DOES EMERGENCY. AND THE SIGN ON THE LEFT -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IT IS A LITTLE CLOSER HERE, THE EMERGENCY SIGN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THAT IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. I DO KNOW THAT WE REALLY NEED TEXAS SIGN ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE AMBULANCE -- THAT WE HAVE THE SIGNS THEY ARE. -- IN THE VARIANCE WITH THE SIGN. SO THAT IS A LAPTOP REPAIR. I AM HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> SO WHAT IS YOUR REASONING FOR

WANTING 900 SQUARE FEET? >>

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>> YEAH, I THINK OUR TOTAL -- >> IF YOU WOULD .

>> TOBY -- ASSOCIATES . I LIVE IN ARLINGTON. THE VARIANCE REQUEST ON THE SIGNAGE IS THE TEXAS HEALTH THAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE REAR . THAT IS DUPLICATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THAT WOULD BE TO 14TH STREET . THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL THREE OF THOSE EXCEEDED THE 600 ALLOWABLE . THE TYPICAL ALLOWABLE IS ONE PER BUILDING , UNLESS YOU ARE UNDER QUITE A LOT. MARY, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. I THINK WE ARE ALLOWED TWO WALL SIGNS . BUT BECAUSE WE WERE REQUESTING -- WITH TEXAS HEALTH ABOVE THE AMBULATORY, THAT IS THE 3RD. AND IT WILL BE FACING RETENTION POND. THAT WILL PROBABLY BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC. THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE ASK OF THE 690 SQUARE FEET.

>> OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES?

>> REGARDING THE SITE IN GENERAL, I LIKE YOUR SLIDE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER MEDICAL FACILITIES . I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT? WHY IS THIS -- WHY HELIPAD? I AM NOT OPPOSED TO TEXAS HEALTH, BUT WE HAVE GOT -- ON THE ROAD. SO A DECISION,

LIKE THIS SITE? >> SO , LIKE I SAID, WE LOOKED AT EVERY ONE OF THESE SITES. EITHER THE ACCESS IS NOT GOOD ON MOST OF THESE SITES , THEIR UTILITY LINES ARE RUNNING TO THE MIDDLE OF THEM THAT WOULD PRECLUDE US FROM ABLE TO PUT A FACILITY OF 50-60 SQUARE FEET ON THE SIDE. AT IS WHERE THE POPULATION IS LOCATED. THE 14TH STREET AND HOPKINS STREET ALREADY IN FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADS, BOTH DIRECTIONS . A TRAFFIC ISSUE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PHYSICIANS OFFICES TO THE SOUTH OF US. AND THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH OF US. WE HAVE A FACILITY IN MANSFIELD. THIS IS A GOOD MARKET. WE WOULD LOVE TO BE

A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. >> WHERE THERE OTHER SITES YOU ARE DECIDING BETWEEN THE SITE AND SOME OTHERS?

>> WE LOOKED AT, I KNOW HIS NAME . WE LOOKED AT THE SITE ON NINTH STREET. IS JUST NORTH OF THE ELECTRICAL AND THE WATER TOWER.

WE LOOK AT THE SITE AROUND THE ATV. WE LOOKED AT SOME SITES ON 287 ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, AND MAIN STREET. BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE LOOKED AT THAT LOCATION. EITHER THE PEOPLE THAT OWNED IT WERE NOT SELLERS. THEY WERE HOLDING OUT FOR A DIFFERENT USE AND THEY HAD PROJECTS WORKING. SO REALLY, HONESTLY, WE STRUGGLED TO FIND A LOCATION HERE.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP LAST MONTH WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT SINGLE DRIVE THERE. WHY IS IT NOT A SEPARATE DRIVE TO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT RIGHT DOWN THERE ? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IS THERE REASON FOR ONLY HAVING

ONE ON 14TH STREET? >>

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS FAR ENOUGH AWAY ?

>>

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

FINEST OF THE PRESENTATION,

>> IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT CAME TO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND TRY TO STABILIZE. THE PLANNING MISCIBLE CRITICAL. THE

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>> SO IF THE PATIENT WAS TO COME IN AND THEY WERE TRANSPORTED BY HEALTHCARE

>> THEY WOULD GO TO , THEY WOULD PROBABLY GO TO OUR HOSPITAL IN MANSFIELD. IT DEPENDS ON THE ACUITY AND IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. WE HAVE A -- IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE PARTICULAR

PLACE. >> AND THINKING ABOUT PATIENT CARE. SO PATIENT CAME IN AND NEEDED -- QUICKLY , THEY WOULD ONLY GO TO A TEXAS RESOURCE? WE WOULD NOT -- HOSPITAL?

>> I THINK THAT, HONESTLY, I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT

QUESTION. >>

>> SIR? SIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU NEED TO COME TO

THE FRONT. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK. >> YOU HAVE -- THAT CAN SPEAK FOR THAT? I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND . I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE IS A SENSE OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHEN THE HELIPAD WOULD BE NEEDED. IF IT IS ONLY ONCE A MONTH, THAT IS A LOT OF

>> SO TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES, WE ARE ALL ABOUT PATIENT SAFETY.

YOU ARE RIGHT. IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE TRANSPORT , BUT IT IS WORTH IT FOR US TO THAT ONE PATIENT A MONTH TO GET THAT CARE. SO OUR OTHER FACILITIES, ALL OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES,

THEY ALL HAVE HELIPAD'S. >>

>> WE HAVE ONE IN WILLOW PARK . OUR CLOSEST HOSPITAL IS IN FORT WORTH. THAT MAY BE 30 MILES AWAY. IT IS CLOSER, YEAH. WE WOULD NOT PUT ANYBODY ON THE HELIPAD, I PROMISE YOU, UNLESS -- A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED, MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE TRANSPORTED VIA

AMBULANCE. >> SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY

THIS IS SO IMPORTANT . >> THE HELIPAD? JUST FOR THAT ONE PATIENT. IT IS A LIFE-SAVING QUESTION.

>> BUT THERE ARE OTHER HELIPAD WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF. ABLE TO UTILIZE? I TRULY DO NOT KNOW. HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT USING OTHER

HELIPAD IF IT IS THAT URGENT? >> I THINK MINUTES COUNT. AND IN PARTICULAR CASES. IT WOULD BE BEST IF THEY LANDED RIGHT FOR THE PATIENT WAS IF THEY WERE TO GET TRANSPORTED. THE OTHER THING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL SITE PLAN HERE, WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT WHERE THE HELIPAD IS, IT IS BEHIND OUR BUILDING, AND IT SITS BEHIND THE BUILDING. AND IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT IT, WHICH I DID ON SUNDAY AND I LOOK AT IT AGAIN. IT IS A GIANT -- IT IS HUGE. IT IS A BIG GRASSY AREA. I DO NOT THINK ONE TIME A MONTH WOULD BE TO SERVE -- DISTURBING TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THE PERSON THAT SHOWED TO BE TRANSPORTED WOULD BE GRATEFUL. ALL OF OUR HOSPITALS, ALL OF OUR INTEGRATED HEALTH CENTERS --. EVERY ONE OF THEM. NO MATTER HOW CLOSE

ANOTHER HOSPITAL IS. >> OKAY.

>> I GUESS FOR ME, THE QUESTION FOR ME IS, IF MY DAUGHTER IS PLAYING SOCCER DOWN THE STREET AT THE PARK AND SHE BREAKS HER LEG . SHE GETS IN AN AMBULANCE, WHERE DID SHE GO? WHAT DICTATES WHAT HOSPITAL SHE GETS TAKEN TO?

>> I THINK THEY ASK WHERE YOU WANT TO BE TAKEN TO. WHEREVER SHE WANTS TO GO IS WHERE SHE WOULD GO.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> YEAH KIND OF OFF OF ANOTHER QUESTION. EMERGENCY PATIENT CARE. IT MAY NOT BE A FAIR QUESTION, BUT -- WHAT THEY HAVE GOT MINUTES. IS THERE ANY -- ? I DON'T KNOW. YOU HAVE ANY COLLABORATION ? ANY

CONSIDERATION? MINUTES COUNT. >> HONESTLY, I CAN GO BACK AND

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IS NOT THAT MUCH FURTHER. >> RIGHT.

>> YEAH. >>

>> YEAH. >> I NEED TO GO BACK AND GET THE

ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. >> ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, THANK

YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> IS THAT YOU, SIR? DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? IN SUPPORT? IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY. YOU HAVE THREE

MINUTES, SIR. >> I AM JERRY BARNETT. -- INAUDIBLE ] OF THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE PROJECT LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH AND CONTIGUOUS TO THE PROPOSED HOSPITAL DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION IN TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES -- FOR 30 DAYS THAT WE WERE INITIALLY WITH SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THE PLAN. THIS DELAY GAVE US VALUABLE TIME TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST.

THE HELIPAD. WE WANT TO SAY WE DO NOT OBJECT TO INCLUDING THE HELIPAD IN THE HOSPITAL PLAN. HOWEVER, THIS REQUEST WAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT A SERIOUS ISSUE. DIRECTLY AFFECTS OUR PROPERTY AND LONG-TERM OPERATIONS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT .

EXCUSE ME.

-- . NOTICING THE SELFLESS PROPERTY LINE. THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPOSED HOSPITAL SIDE AND PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, INCLUDING THE FINAL VERSION OF PD 118. EDIT THAT TIME, CITY STAFF INFORMED US THAT IS REQUIRED TO INCLUDE THE ACCESS TO OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH OF THE CITY ORDINANCE TO INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN SIMILARLY ZONE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, AND REDUCE THE TRAFFIC PRESSURE ON ARTERIAL YOUR ROADS. HOWEVER, WE DO NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS THAT WE ACCRUE TO THE REQUIREMENT, TRUSTING THE DECISION OF THE CITY. WE ASSUMED -- LONGTIME USAGE.

KNOW THE ZONING ORDINANCE. OUR CORE CONCERN IS SIMPLE. TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON OUR SITE. THE CITY STAFF TOLD US THOUGH ORDINANCE PROPOSED WOULD REQUEST THE ACCESS AGREEMENT TO REMEDIATE CONGESTION ON ARTERIAL YOUR ROADS. WHAT IS ACHIEVED IF HOSPITAL TRAFFIC EXITS DRUG PROPERTY TO REACH THE SAME UNTIL THE ROAD? THAT WOULD BE EXITING IN FRONT OF THE HOSPITAL. IN OUR VIEW, THAT IS REALLY SHIFTED , NOT RESOLVED, WHILE WE INHERIT NEW CHALLENGES TO OUR INTERNAL SITE PLAN TENANT ACCESS. THE DEVELOPMENT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO HANDLE HOSPITAL TRAFFIC.

WHILE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS SUPPORT, I STATE DURING PEAK HOURS WOULD USE THAT DRIVE. THAT IS A MODEST NUMBER TO BECOME SIGNIFICANT. INTEGRATING THAT INTO OUR PARKING LOT. STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY STAFF APPEARS SO RIGID IN THEIR POSITION. WHY IS THERE NOT A WILLINGNESS TO RECONSIDER AN ACCESS POINT? HAVE SPOKEN WITH HER NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH. -- MOVING ACROSS ACCESS CONNECTION. BASED ON THEIR READING OF THE SAME TRAFFIC REPORT, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE -- REGARDING THE TRAFFIC ON THE SITE . THE TWO PARTIES AGREE TO A SOLUTION , AND IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY TO NOT HERE TO OPPOSE THE HOSPITAL HER PROGRESS IN HER COMMUNITY.

AS DEVELOPERS, WE ARE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF SMART, THOUGHTFUL ROADS. I WAS LIKELY AS THE COMMISSION TO CAREFULLY -- THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF DECISIONS, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE DECISIONS AND PLACING AN UNDUE BURDEN ON ACCESS TO THE

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DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY. >> CHAIRMAN , THE APPLICANT HAS AN ANSWER TO THE HELIPAD QUESTION AS TO HOW TO DETERMINE THE DESTINATION. YOU STILL WANT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION?

>> THANK YOU. THE ANSWER IS IF IT IS BEST FOR THE PATIENT, ABSOLUTELY.

>> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >>

>> 2415 SUMMERFIELD , , TEXAS. I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT AS HE WAS TRYING TO FUMBLE AROUND AND ANSWER THE QUESTION, I THOUGHT I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION REAL EASY. AND I HAVE ONE SON, 45 YEARS OLD. HE WAS BORN AT THAT HOSPITAL. ANOTHER ONE, 35 YEARS OLD , AND HE WAS BORN -- HOSPITAL. AS IT TURNS OUT, BOTH OF THEM HAD TO BE AIRLIFTED TO ANOTHER HOSPITAL.

THEY WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.

I THOUGHT I COULD. EXCUSE ME. ANYWAY, THEY TOOK THEM TO COOK'S. SAVED THEIR LIVES . SECONDS COUNT. THE STATEMENT OF YOUR , WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? I KNOW WHY I WANT IT DONE. MY TWO KIDS WOULD NOT BE A LINE -- ALIVE IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE HELIPAD . THEY GENERALLY LOOK TO THEM TO ANOTHER HOSPITAL. THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE. SORRY

ABOUT BEING EMOTIONAL. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU . >> I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN

FAVOR, AYE >> AYE.

>> AND HE OPPOSED? >> THAT PASSES.

>>

YES. OKAY. >> SO I KNOW WE ARE NOT CALLING

THE FLOW BONE HOSPITAL, RIGHT? >> CORRECT.

>> WITH THERE BE A DIFFERENCE IN THE ZONING HERE AT THIS LOCATION? HOSPITAL VERSUS THE PROPOSAL?

>> OF FULL BLOWN HOSPITAL, YEAH. THAT WOULD BE -- THE WHOLE THING. WHAT A MEDICAL CLINIC IS NOT.

>> AND ALL OF THE SIGNS WE SEE SAY HOSPITAL ENTRANCE. IS THAT HOW THE SIGNS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE SITE? MEDICAL OFFICE?

>> IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO REQUIRE, WE WILL DO THAT FOR

YOU. >> I AM MAKING SURE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SQUEEZE SOMETHING IN THERE.

>> YEAH, YEAH. THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT UPDATING ORDINANCES RIGHT NOW. THAT IS ONE OF THE CRITICAL THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT IT DEFINITIONS . EVERYTHING IS, IN TERMS OF MEDICAL USES , YOU RATHER GO TO YOUR DOCTOR FOR A CHECKUP, OR YOU GO TO THE HOSPITAL. THAT IS WHAT PICTURE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE MY POWERPOINT IS.

>>

OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>>

>> YEAH. >> OKAY . YOU WANTED IT STREET VIEW? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR?

>> IT CAN BE AN OVERVIEW, I BELIEVE.

>> THIS MIGHT BE A MIKE QUESTION.

>> I AM NOT SURE IF IT WILL BE -- SO THE ENTRANCE . IF I HEARD MIKE SAY CORRECTLY, IT HAS TO BE %-Ú

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IN. >> I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE

DEVELOPMENT. >>

>> OKAY, SO THERE WILL BE . THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO --

>>

>> OKAY.

PLAN? I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DRIVEWAY. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE CUT THROUGH FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY , IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS MORE THAN 300 FEET FROM THAT MAIN DRIVE WHERE YOU WOULD ENTER THE EMERGENCY ROOM. WHAT THAT WORK IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THE

ACCESS TO THE NORTH? >> NO. AND THE ACTUAL DRIVE

DISTANCE. >> IT IS ACTUALLY MARKED OFF ON THE SITE PLAN. 100 FOOT.

>> ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT HELP? >> THERE YOU GO. I'D IF YOU CAN SEE FROM THERE, BUT YOU HAVE GOT A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET TO THE SILICIDE OF THAT CIRCLE DRIVE. I'M ASSUMING IF YOU DO THAT ONE MORE TIME, IT WOULD LINE UP OVER THERE. WITHOUT ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WANT WITH THE NORTH?

>> YES, PART OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AGAIN, I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS A COMMON QUESTION. BECAUSE THE PD ON THIS PROPERTY HAS A REQUIREMENT IN THE PD THAT THE ACCESS IS PROVIDED AS PART OF THAT PD. THIS IS SUP. CAN YOU CHANGE THE PD TO ELIMINATE THAT ?

>> THIS TO THE HELIPAD. THE WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE THING GENERALLY IS THE PD. WELL, I MEAN, EFFECTIVELY, IF THE CONDITION OF THE COUNCIL ELECTED NOT TO REQUIRE THAT AND APPROVE THE SITE PLAN , EFFECTIVELY, IT MAKES PROPERTY TO THE NORTH INCAPABLE OF ACTUALLY COMPLYING WITH ITS OWN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OKAY. I WOULD NOT -- AT LEAST THEY'VE GOT THE CAPABILITY. THEY ARE STILL PROVIDING THE ABILITY. BUT

COUNCIL DID NOT -- >> KIND OF GOING BACK TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. THE INTENT REALLY IS, IF WE HAVE COMPATIBLE USES, IF IT IS COMPATIBLE. INSTEAD OF HAVING, LET'S SAY, SOMEONE WANTS TO GO TO A RESTAURANT AT A PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO UP 14TH STREET, THEY COULD GO IN NEXT DOOR .

THERE IS THAT ABILITY WITH SHARED ACCESS. AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE USES, THAT IS INTENDED SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE WHAT WAS BEING SAID. YET MORE TRIPS ON 14TH STREET TO GO ONE BLOCK OVER TO A SITE THAT IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT ACCESS. THAT IS WHY THAT ACCESS IS BASICALLY PLAN FOR AND ATTENDED. THE SAME WAY. IF YOU HAVE SORT OF -- TO GO DO, THEY HAVE A DOCTORS OFFICE APPOINTMENT OR SOMETHING THEY ARE AND THEY WENT OVER TO THE SITE. AND THEN HAVE THEM GET OUT INTO THAT SAME THING . THEY HAVE THE SAME SHARED ACCESS ALREADY ON SITE. THAT IS THE INTENT OF HAVING THAT SHARED

ACCESS. >> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CANNOT PUT ANOTHER ACCESS OF 14TH STREET?

>> WE CAN LOOK AND SEE. 200 FEET FROM WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO USE THAT LANE. YOU ADD ANOTHER 100 FEET RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS FROM THE DRIVEWAY. SO YOU'LL HAVE A 20 OR 30 FOOT , YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO START GOING 280 FEET BACK TO THE NORTH AND -- IF YOU DO HAVE IT, THAT IS GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT IN COLORADO, ONLY. IT WILL NOT BE FULL ACCESS. YOU CANNOT HAVE A MOTHER MEDIAN HERE.

THE OPEN AT HOPKINS -- >> OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, SIR?

>>

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>> THE BIGGEST HANG UP WITH A LOT OF THIS DISCUSSION IS WE SHARE A DRIVE IN THE HELIPAD. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?

>> THE HELIPAD, IN MY MIND, THAT IS JUST INSURANCE . IF IT SAVES ONE LIFE, IT IS WORTH IT, TO ME.

>> THIS YEAR DRIVEWAY, I THINK -- THE PEOPLE TO THE NORTH COULD USE THAT DRIVEWAY JUST AS EASILY AS THE PEOPLE TO THE SOUTH. I HAVE NO ISSUES AS IS PRESENTED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM IN

FAVOR OF IT. >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> IF THERE IS NO OTHER SESSION, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> 2ND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND

[006 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the zoning regulations relating to Planned Development District No. 157 (PD-157), being 104.31+ acres out of the L.W. Stewart Survey, Abstract 997, C.R. Werely Survey, Abstract 1187, and the J.J. Grimes Survey, Abstract 1327, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. The site is generally located on Hayes Road, south of Mulberry Lane. (Z07-2025-010)]

FAVOR, AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, TWO OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT. WILLING TO ITEM 006. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING I CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING REGULATIONS RELATED TO PLENTIFUL BUT DISTRICT 157, BEING 104.31 ACRES OUT OF THE LW STEWART SURVEY, ABSTRACT 997 , C.R.

WERELY SURVEY, ABSTRACT 187 , AND J.J. GRIMES SURVEY ABSTRACT 1327, CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS. THE SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON HAYES ROAD, SOUTH OF MULBERRY LANE.

>> COMMISSIONER, THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE EXISTING PD 157.

REPLACE THE SITE PLAN AND ELEVATIONS. THEY ARE INCREASING NUMBER OF LOSS FROM 108 LOTS TO 171 LOTS. THE NEPHI WILL INCREASE FROM ONE POINT FOR SIX DRILLING UNITS PER ACRE 2.32 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THIS FALLS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL MEDIAN DENSITY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. IT STILL COMPLIES WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND ALSO, THEY ARE PROVIDING ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS OF LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS TO COMPENSATE. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKY SITE BECAUSE IT HAS A LARGE 120 FOOT WIDE ENCORE EASEMENT THAT BISECTS IN ONE DIRECTION. 100 FOOT -- I SAID THAT BACKWARDS. 100 FOOT ENCORE, AND THE 130 FOOT 1020 EASEMENT THAT BISECTS THE SITE. THEY ARE PRESERVING THE TREES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS SITE.

THAT HAS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT GOES THROUGH A LOT OF THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE . THERE IS DRAINAGE ALSO ACCOMMODATED ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE AS WELL. THEY WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THEY HAVE LOTS THAT FRONT ONTO HAYES ROAD. IT IS NOT ALL SIDE FENCES WHICH IS A CONCERN OF COUNCIL. THERE ARE SOME POSITIVES TO IT AND IT IS BEING PROPOSED THAT THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES A CONCRETE TRAIL, AN EIGHT FOOT CONCRETE TRAIL. IT RUNS ALONG THE ENCORE EASEMENT. THEY ARE PROPOSING A CEDAR MULCH PATH ALONG THIS EASEMENT. AND THERE IS SOMETHING , WE HAVE THIS SAME TRAIL THAT PICKS UP TO THE NORTHWEST AND THAT IS CONCRETE. SO STAFF WOULD RATHER SEE CONCRETE JOINT TO CONCRETE.

THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT HAS TWO LOT TYPES. ONE THAT IS 21,760 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM, AND ONE THAT IS 50,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM. THESE ARE 80 FOOT WIDE BY 70 FOOT WIDE RESPECTIVELY.

THE CURRENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROHIBITS FRONT FACING PROCESS .

ALTHOUGH GARAGE DOORS HAVE TO BE CIDER REFACING. WITH THE PROPOSED PD, THERE IS ONLY ONE LOT TYPE . THAT IS 9100 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM. 70 FOOT WIDE MINIMUM. AND ALTHOUGH GARAGE DOORS WOULD BE FRONT FACING. THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED. AND HIS STAFF'S PRIMARY CONCERN IS THAT THE GARAGE WILL DOMINATE THE FACADE. JUST LOOKING AT THESE, SCALING THEM OFF . THEY LOOK TO BE LARGER THAN 70 FOOT WIDE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE THE THREE CAR GARAGES. YOU WOULD HAVE 30 FEET OF GARAGE DOOR, 15 FEET OF SIDE SETBACK. AND THEN, YOU

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THE STANDARDS THEY'RE PROPOSING TO OFFSET THE GARAGE DOOR , FRONT FACING GARAGE DOORS, IS THAT THEY ARE WANTING TO UPSET THE THIRD VEHICLE BAY. THEY HAVE A DOOR THAT RESEMBLES FEEDER DOORS, REGARDLESS OF MATERIAL. USING CARRIAGE LIGHTS. PROPOSE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOT JUST , THE BASIC PACKAGE .

THE FRONT PORCH THAT IS 100 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.

SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL VARIETY. THE LIGHTING WOULD BE UPGRADED TO THE A CARING -- ACORN STYLE LIGHT FIXTURE. I BELIEVE I TOUCH ON ALL OF THESE OTHER ELEMENTS .

THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PROPOSE A VISTA PARKLAND DEDICATION. THAT TRAILER SO THAT WOULD CONNECT TO A TRAIL IN THAT SUBDIVISION. SO STAFF IS NOT RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT ON THIS APPLICATION. OUR PRIMARY CONCERN IS THAT A LOT OF, WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR ALL FUNDRAISING GRASSES. AND HAS BEEN SORT OF AN ISSUE IN THE PAST. I BELIEVE THAT TALKING TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT HAVING SOME CIDER REFACING GARAGES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CORNER LOTS. AND USING CONCRETE INSTEAD OF THE ZERO MULCH. THE MULCH WILL JUST WASH AWAY.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MAINTAINING OUR CURRENT STANDARDS IN TERMS OF

>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IN THE -- ORDINANCE AS IT IS WRITTEN, IT SAYS THAT THE ENHANCED ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT WILL INCLUDE TWO SINGLE GARAGE DOORS

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> BUT THE PHOTOS ARE SHOWING

SINGLE DOUBLE DOORS. >> THAT IS CORRECT, YEAH. THEY WERE PROVIDING THE ELEVATIONS MORE AS A GUIDE. HOWEVER, THE LEVELS AND DETAILS , YEAH THAT STAFF WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT IF IT WAS A 70 FOOT WIDE LOT THEY WERE SHOWING, YOU KNOW, SO YOU COULD SEE HOW DOMINANT THE GARAGE DOOR WOULD BE. AND WHAT THE EFFECTS WOULD BE IF YOU DO SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THEY

TALKED ABOUT. >> IS ALSO HAS THAT -- GARAGES

ARE PROHIBITED. >> CORRECT.

>> SO TAKING THEM OFF THE FRONT.

>> I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN. THE ONLY THING ALLOWED IS FRONT FACING. NOT WILLING TO DO EITHER -- SWING ARE THE CALIFORNIA J ZINK, OR THE STREET BEHIND THE FRONT

BUILDING. >> OKAY. AND HOW WE LEARN OUR LESSON

>> MOST ARE 50 FOOT WIDE STANDARD STREETS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

>> ALL OF THEM ARE 50 FOOT WIDE? >> THE INTERIOR, YES. THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> CURB TO CURB?

>> CURB TO CURB IS USUALLY 30 FEET. YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

37-38. OKAY. OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> IS THIS THE SAME DEVELOPER AS 2022?

>> GREENFIELD, I BELIEVE IT IS. >> OKAY. NO? I APOLOGIZE. IT IS

NOT THAT THAT IS THE APPLICANT. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> ELECTING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT THE WHOLE ENTERING TRAIL

THROUGH TIER WB IS NOT ALLOWED. >> I MEAN, IT EXISTS TO THE

NORTHWEST. >> IT DOES?

>> NORTHWEST. IN THE GROVE , AND IT IS CONCRETE. AND IS, YEAH. IN

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CONCRETE THERE. >>

>> OH, MEANDERING. >> YEAH, I AM TALKING ABOUT --

>> IT IS NOT MEANDERING. IT IS DEFINITELY STRAIGHT. RIGHT.

MINIMUM CONFLICT . CORRECT. >> MARY, THE TRAIL I'M LOOKING AT HERE, I BELIEVE IT IS AN ORANGE? THAT WOULD BE CONCRETE

OR MULCH? >> THAT WOULD BE MULCH.

>> OKAY, WHERE THE FEDERAL GO TO?

>> IT CONNECT TO THE CONCRETE TRAIL. IT LOOKS LIKE IT CONNECTS TO THE SIDEWALKS IN THE RESIDENTIAL INTERIOR STREETS.

HERE. >> OKAY.

>> SO CONNECT TO THE CONCRETE TRAIL HERE, AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS CONNECTIONS TO THE SIDEWALKS AND THE CUL-DE-SACS.

>>

>> NUS? >> THE GREEN I SEE, IS THAT OPEN

SPACE? >> IT IS, YES. IT IS GRASS.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> SO MARY, DO WE HAVE

>> IT IS A PRIVATE TRAIL, I WILL SAY THAT . I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME PRIVATE TRAIL THAT ARE NOT CONCRETE IN THE STUDY. SO IT

WOULD NOT BE UNIQUE. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, IS THE

APPLICANT PRESENT ? >> MY NAME IS TERRY WEAVER AND I REPRESENT THE -- OF THIS PROPERTY AS A CONSULTANT MY OFFICES -- MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. IN ADDRESSING THE THEATER TRAIL, WE WERE DOING THAT AS AN ENHANCEMENT. THAT IS REALLY THE WATER LINE. THAT PROPERTY EASEMENT. WE WERE DOING THAT TO AVOID A STRAIGHT SHOT CONCRETE THAT MIGHT GET BUILT UP BY THEM.

THEIR DIGGING HOLES ALL THE TIME. WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE AN ENHANCEMENT. SOMETHING MORE NATURAL. IT WOULD BE A TWO-WAY OWNED AND MAINTAINED. THE CONCRETE TRAIL. IT WOULD BE FROM HAYES BOULEVARD DOWN TO LACK A VISTA , AND CONTINUE ON DOWN TO WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE A PUBLIC PARK. THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED. ALL THE GREEN SPACE IS OPEN SPACE. THERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLANNED WITH THE ORIGINAL ZONE. IT SHOWS ALL OF THE ENHANCEMENTS ALONG HAYES BOULEVARD AND WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING. TREEPLANTING, LANDSCAPING , THAT IS STILL THE SAME. THE NATURAL AREA TO THE NORTH THERE, THAT IS , THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA , IN THE PAST, WILL REMAIN. THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED AS A NATURAL AREA BY THE HOA

>> . I NOTICED HE'S CROSSING HAS IMPROVED THERE'S ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CREEK NOW. THE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF US. AS FAR AS THE GARAGES, THE ONLY GRASSES WE CAN DO IN A 70 FOOT LOT, THEY ARE EITHER FRONT FACING, OR THE J SWING I THINK EVERYBODY HATES.

IS WHERE THE PARKING LOT AND UP IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. WHAT YOU PROPOSE TO DO THOSE , WE JUST DO NOT LIKE THEM. AND I AM NOT SURE COUNCIL WILL APPROVE. BASED ON WHAT I HEAR FROM OTHER PLACES.

THERE ARE ABOUT 14 OF THESE LAWS THAT ALLOW THEMSELVES TO HAVE SIDE ENTRY BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE CORNERS.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS TOTAL TRANSPARENCY. WE OWN THIS . WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT WITH BLOOMFIELD HOMES. THE REQUEST IS , YOU KNOW, FOR THE 170 FRONT FOOT LOTS. THE FRONT ENTRY LOT, EXCUSE ME. HOWEVER, THAT SEEMS TO BE A REAL STICKING POINT . ALSO HAS OWNERS WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING A CERTAIN

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TRANSITION AREA WHERE WE GOT RESIDENTIAL APPROVED. WITH THE HIGHER RESTRICTIONS YOU SEE , WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN SITTING OUT HERE FOR 2 1/2 YEARS WITH THE OPD . I WILL BE REAL HONEST WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS REQUIRED IN THERE, AND THE LOTS BEING MUCH WIDER LOTS, NOT IN THE CURRENT MARKET OR ANY BASIC MARKET. NOT A MARKETABLE PROPERTY . WE ARE KEEPING THE AMENDED SQUARE FOOTAGE, 2200 FEET. YOU KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT MY FIRST ASK WAS 1400. AND NOW I AM 72 YEARS OLD. I'VE NOW GONE THROUGH THE CIRCLE . I HAVE LIVED IN 3000 AND 4000 SQUARE-FOOT HOUSES. I NOW LIVE IN A 1580 -- 1585 SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. THESE WILL STILL BE $400,000 HOUSES PLUS. SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS , YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE 170 FOOT, EXCUSE ME, 171 LOTS. ALL 70 FOOT BY 130 FOOT DEEP , 9100 SQUARE FEET, WITH ALL THE GROSS ENHANCEMENTS. WE HAVE PUT IN A RESTRICTION ON THE THREE-CAR GARAGES, I BELIEVE, ONLY 34 OF THE LOTS. THE REST OF THEM WOULD BE FRONT FACING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING A 25 FOOT SETBACK. THAT KEEPS CARS FROM PARKING ON THE SIDEWALKS. THERE IS A FEW OTHER CHANGES TO THE PD. IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS , I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I WOULD BE WILLING TO DISCUSS THE GARAGES

AND THAT SORT OF THING. >> OKAY. QUESTIONS?

>> I WILL GO 1ST.

MY QUESTION TO YOU IS -- DO THINK BEST INTEREST? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS AN OPTION.

>> WELL, WHEN WE WENT TO OUR MEETING, WHEN HE WENT TO THE CITY, TO HAVE 20% J SWING. BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OLD TRADITIONAL J SWING. THAT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD AFFECT THE WORK ON A 70 FOOT LOT. THAT IS WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS, DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. PEOPLE CAN PULL IN THEIR GARAGES. BUT MY EXPERIENCE IS WHEN THERE ARE J SWING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN. I AM FRONT FACING, I PARKED IN MY GARAGE. MOST OF THE J SWING FOLKS PARKED IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, IN FRONT OF THEIR FRONT DOOR. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT COUNCIL DOES NOT LIKE OLD J SWING GARAGES. THAT IS WHY WE ARE DOING ALL FRONT ENTRY. ARE WE OPPOSED TO MAYBE WIDENING SOME OF THESE LOTS? MAKING THEM TRUE SIDE ENTRY, LIKE YOU SEE UP IN HAYES CROSSING AND A LOT OF THE HOUSES IN THERE? NO, WE ARE NOT INAUDIBLE ] .

>> AND WHY THE TWO SINGLE GARAGE --?

>> WELL, DOUBLE WOULD BE DONE WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF ENHANCEMENT. IF YOU NOTICE, WE DID A SELECTION OF ENHANCEMENTS TO BE SELECTED BY THE BUILDERS. ONE OF THOSE WAS TO MAKE IT A DOUBLE VERSUS A SINGLE. I HAVE LIVED IN A POST IN THE MIDDLE GARAGES. I HATED IT.

>> ENHANCEMENT SO IT WOULD CHANGE IT OUT. THE BUILDER COULD SELECT TO PUT THAT 12 INCH MASONRY IN BETWEEN. BUT TYPICALLY, IT IS GOING TO BE A 16 FOOT , SOMETIMES LIKE THIS. 18 FOOT.

TYPICALLY A 16 FOOT A SINGLE CAR GARAGE.

>> SO WEATHERBEE THE OPTION TO HAVE A 16 OR AN 18 FOOT GARAGE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO DICTATE?

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>> YEAH, YOU COULD PROPOSE THAT AS PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

>> OKAY. >> SO -- I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US.

100 FOOT LOTS TO 170. >> WELL, WE COULD ONLY DO 108 LOTS AND MEET THE BUILDER REQUIREMENTS AT THAT TIME. AND THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING HAD TO BE A TRUE -- GARAGE. ONLY 108 LOTS WOULD FIT ON THIS 73 ACRES WITH THE 14 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE. SO NOW, WE ARE ASKING, YOU KNOW, FOR A NARROWER LOT.

THAT ALLOWS THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGE . THAT IS WHAT WE GOT FROM 108 TWO 171. THAT IS STILL UNDER , IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NO RESIDENTIAL ON THIS PROPERTY AT THAT TIME. IT WAS AGRICULTURAL IN THE CORPORATE MODULE. WE WERE KIND OF GOING

FROM -- >> I AM OKAY WITH THE -- HOUSE.

I AM LIKE YOU.

THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. >> HOW MANY LOTS DID YOU SAY YOU

KAPUT SIDE ENTRY GARAGE IS ON? >> THE WAY THERE SET UP RIGHT NOW, I THINK THERE IS 14-16 CORNER, RATHER RECTANGULAR LOTS, YOU COULD HAVE A SIDE ENTRY COMING OFF BECAUSE IT IS A CORNER LOT . THE GARAGE IS STILL GOING TO FACE THE STREET. IT WOULD NOT BE ONE OF THE FRONT. IT WOULD BE ON THE BACK END.

>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. RATHER THAN BEING TURNED DOWN TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE THE OPTION , IF YOU TURN ME DOWN FOR 171 FRONT ENTRY CROSSES, TO DISCUSS HOW WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH ADJUSTING SOME OF THESE TWO SIDE ENTRY AND LOWER. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. I HAVE A NON-SPEAKER. >>

>> SO, YOU PUT IT ON THE TABLE , BUT YOU HAVE ANOTHER CLAIM. DO HAVE ANOTHER CLAIM THAT IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE BUT WE

STARTED WITH? >> YEAH, YOU GET WHAT WE DID, I DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER SITE PLAN. JUST , YOU KNOW, 42 YEARS OF EXPENSE IN DEVELOPING. AS THEY WOULD GO FROM PROBABLY 171 LOTS DOWN TO 158-160 LOTS. WE WILL LOSE SOME LOT BY WIDENING THE MAP. THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO DO A TRUE SIDE GARAGE, TO HAVE THE TURNING RADIUS OF THE DRIVEWAY.

>> RIGHT.

>> NO. . LONG STRETCH OF LOTS ON THE NORTH UP THERE . WE WIND ALL THOSE OUT, AND THEN WE WOULD LEAVE PROBABLY 20% OF THOSE IN COUNT. AND THEN POSSIBLY NOT HAVE TO , SAY, THE THREE OVER THERE ON THE SIDE FACING THE FRONT 2. NOW, THE STREETS STAY THE SAME. THE OPEN SPACE STAYS THE SAME. THE CURRENT LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE IN THE PROGRAM THAT IS IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE STAYS THE SAME. EVERYTHING ELSE BASICALLY STAYS THE SAME. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO -- STAY WITH THAT NATURAL TRAIL.

I'VE DONE THAT WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS WHEN IT IS OUT THERE IN AN OPEN SPACE LIKE THAT. OPEN TREES -- IT WILL BE UP TO THE HOA TO MAINTAIN THAT. IT IS THE HOA TRAIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS MUCH OF THE TRAIL AS POSSIBLE. I THINK

IT ENHANCES WHAT IS THERE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

IN OPPOSITION.

>>

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THE CITY. >> -- WE LIVE THAT FIVE 618 DOMAIN AT KEITH CROSSING. OKAY. SO WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION, AS IS THE FIRST NOTICE WE RECEIVED IN THE MAIL FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING. WE LOVE THE FIFTH HOUSE IN ON -- LANE. WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE APPROXIMATELY 15 MONTHS AGO. AND WE WERE TOLD THAT HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS NEXT TO THE GREEN SPACE. THERE IS AGRICULTURAL BEHIND US. THERE ARE NO HOUSES COMING IN. WE HAVE A MENTAL IRON FENCE. YOU KNOW? WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION, A WROUGHT IRON FENCE. WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE BOUGHT , YOU KNOW, THIS BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE. WE WERE NEVER TOLD THERE WAS EVEN GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY COMING OUT.

>> THIS WAS APPROVED 2 1/2 YEARS AGO. THE INITIAL PLANS. 2 1/2 YEARS AGO.

>> WAS THIS APPROVED TWO AND HALF YEARS AGO AND NOT TOLD TO AND WE JUST PURCHASED 15 MONTHS AGO?

>> LET ME JUST SAY -- THERE IS AN EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT .

AND OF THE DIFFERENT LAYOUT. WITH ZONING IN PLACE , IT IS INAUDIBLE ]. YOU KNOW, APPROVED ABOUT 2 1/2 YEARS AGO. THOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN PLANS FOR RESIDENTIAL PLANNING TO OWN THE PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, ANY ISSUES YOU HAVE ON THAT QUESTION, IT IS BEST ASKED TO HAVE HER SOLD TO THE HOUSE INITIALLY TO DISCUSS WITH THEM, OKAY?

>> WE THOUGHT WE WERE COMING INTO THIS PLANNING AND ZONING

AGRICULTURE RESIDENTIAL. >> I WILL TELL YOU -- 03 FOR THE COMMISSION IN EVERY REAL ESTATE AGENT IN HERE. I DO A LOT OF REAL ESTATE MYSELF. UNLESS THERE IS AN EFFORT TO ZONE OR UNLESS YOU THE PROPERTY BEHIND YOU, YOU CAN NEVER BE ASSURED THAT IT WILL NOT BE BUILT UP BEHIND YOU. YOU KNOW, IF THAT IS THE CASE, YEAH, THAT IS PROBABLE YOU NEED TO TAKE UP WITH --

>> WE JUST WANTED SOME CLARITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, HAZEL? DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, MA'AM? YOU ARE NOT

MARKED. ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST? >>

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >>

>> ALL RIGHTS. -- RIGHT. YOU MEAN TONIGHT? WE ARE GETTING READY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU WANT TO

SPEAK? >> MY NAME IS HAZEL -- AND I RESIDE AT THE PROPERTY. THE NOTICE ABOUT THAT PROPERTY. AND JUST HAVE NOT BEEN VERY INFORMED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON BACK THERE. BASICALLY, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT AND WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT. I WAS JUST WONDERING Y'ALL ARE PLANNING TO DISCUSS NOT

>> WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN GO INTO DISCUSSION ON ACTION WITH THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> OKAY. WELL, MY QUESTIONS WERE JUST , BASICALLY, I WAS JUST WONDERING , IT LOOKS LIKE THE PLAN -- I WAS WONDERING , OF COURSE, EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC. SO MY. BUT TYLER ROAD IS ALREADY HARD TO GET OUT 2663. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING

IF THERE IS -- >> WE MAY BE ON A DIFFERENT ONE,

MA'AM. YEAH. >>

>> OKAY, I THOUGHT -- >> WE HAVE NOW IS ITEM 10.

>>

>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON THIS ONE. DID I MISS ANYBODY? OKAY, IF NOT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION -- I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE

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>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THAT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY. >>

>>

LAUGHTER ] >>

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE WAYS TO DO IT. ONE, AND MARY MAY WANT TO HELP TOO. ONE WAY IS IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS OF THE MISSION EXPRESSED WITHOUT A NATIONAL VOTE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT , BUT WE ARE NOT READY. 1ST OF ALL, I THINK YOU HAVE TO KIND OF DESCRIBE , IN SOME LEVEL OF DETAIL , SO THE APPLICANT KNOWS WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE BACK. THAT ENTAILS PARTICULARLY WHEN DRAWING THE SITE PLAN. I WOULD RECOMMEND DEFERRING THIS ACTION TO MAYBE AT LEAST NEXT MONTH. BECAUSE I AM, I AM USUALLY PRETTY RELUCTANT TO SUGGEST TO BUILD ON SOMETHING AND HAVE NOT SEEN IT. PARTICULARLY ON THE GRAPHIC STUFF. SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. IF THE COMMISSION THINKS THIS IS WHERE THIS IS GOING. BUT I THINK , YOU KNOW, I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AT THIS POINT?

>> YOU COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED . YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITION. YOU CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL. ARE YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE AND BRING

SOMETHING BACK. >> I WOULD LIKE TO LEAN TOWARD SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TWO AND HALF YEARS AGO WHEN WE APPROVED THIS ORIGINAL DESIGN, WE TOOK IT FROM AGRICULTURE AND THE FUTURE WAS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. KNOWING THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOWER DENSITY AREA , BEING ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT , I UNDERSTAND THE ASK WITH THE MARKET AND CONDITIONS AND OUR NEW CONFERENCE OF PLAN THAT IS GOING TO BE RELEASED -- RELEASE THAT ALLOWS THAT. SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO COME BACK IN AFTER SOMETHING THAT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN. IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOOK AT A CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND IT FORCES DEVELOPERS TO DO LESS DENSE. OVER COME BACK AND BE MORE DENSE THAN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND BE A LITTLE MORE CONFORMING WITH WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS . IF THAT MAKES SENSE?

YEAH. >> DO YOU WANT --

>>

>> WELL, LET ME SUGGEST A COUPLE THINGS. 1ST OF ALL, I THINK IF IN FAIRNESS TO THE APPLICANT , AS WELL AS FAIRNESS TO STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS IN REVIEWING WHAT IT IS , THE DIRECTION THE COMMITTEE IS WANTING TO GO WITH RECOMMENDATION. LET ME JUST FINISH. THEY RELEASED , KIND OF ANNUNCIATE AND DESCRIBE, GENERALLY, WHAT IT IS YOU REALLY WANT THE APPLICANT TO DO. IF YOU DO PREFER THIS AND ASKED FOR SOME LEVEL OF REDESIGN.

>> OKAY . COME ON BACK. >>

>> I GUESS WHAT WOULD LIKE DIRECTION ON IT WOULD BE OKAY WITH US LOWERING JUST A MATTER OF DENSITY, AND THE NUMBER OF FRONT FACING GRASSES, WE CAN WORK ON THAT. BUT KEEPING IT AT THE CURRENT MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE SIZE, WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE IT DOWN TO 2000 SQUARE FEET. GOING BACK TO WHAT USED TO BE NORMAL. 2600 OR SOMETHING SUP --

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DENSE. >> YOU KNOW, DENSE TO US IS FIVE AND 6. I WOULD NEVER ASK FOR THAT.

>> THIS IS DENSE FOR MIDLOTHIAN.

>> I DO WANT TO CLARIFY. I MEAN, STAFF DID NOT -- YEAH, THEY DO NOT REQUEST THAT . WE HAVE MAYBE 20% WOULD BE MAYBE SIDE OR REAR FACING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE WELL ON THEIR WAY WITH THAT FOR 10 , 16 CORNER LOT THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT. BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN HAVE MORE IMPERVIOUS -- YOU KNOW, NO OBJECTION TO THAT EITHER.

>> SO MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS

>> HANG ON. >> UNITS RIGHT NOW IS WRITTEN

INAUDIBLE ]. >> THERE'S A 2000 MINIMUM NOW.

HE SAID IF YOU WERE TO INTRODUCE HIM FOOT LINE -- WIDE LOT, WE HAVE TO CORRESPONDINGLY BUMP IT UP TO 2600 OR 3000 SQUARE FEET? THAT IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO NOT

>> SO IT WAS 3000. I'M SORRY. YEAH, 3020 600. AND HE IS PROPOSING 2000 . I THINK A MINIMUM OF 2000.

I THINK THAT IS A GOOD PLAN. >> OKAY.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE GARAGES? COMMISSIONERS?

>> YOU DON'T ALLOW A 2000 SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE, UNLESS THE LOT ACCOMMODATES THAT . WITHOUT THAT SIZE, IT MAKES

SENSE TO ME. >> YEAH, BUT ARE YOU SAYING IF YOU REDUCE IT TO A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, YOU WILL WIDEN THE LOT TO ALLOW FOR MORE SIDE ENTRY GARAGES?

>>

>> OKAY, MARY. DO YOU UNDERSTAND -- ?

>> YES. SO LOOK AT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF NON-FRONT FACING , CURRENTLY THE STANDARD OF 35%. BUT I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT 20% EARLY ON. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE HOUSES , A MINIMUM OF 2000 SQUARE FEET. SO THEY HAVE LARGER LOTS, THEY CAN

HAVE MORE NEUTERING SPACE. >> DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE OR ADD

ANYTHING TO THAT? >> I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE 35%.

AND THEY ARE STILL ALLOWING FOR THE SMALLER HOMES , THE SMALLER LOTS TO HAVE THE -- AGAIN, -- COMES TO MIND.

THEY ARE NOT AS DEEP, BUT THEY ARE WIDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT

SIZE. >> WITH 25% THE BOTTOM LINE?

>>

>> I THINK WE WOULD BE GOOD WITH THAT, YEAH. I WOULD STILL LIKE

TO SEE THE CONCRETE. >>

>>

>> YEAH. ULTIMATELY, KEEP IN MIND, SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS

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>> WE CAN PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR.

>> YEAH.

OKAY. WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS MOTION FOR STAFF TRWD --

MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE IT.

>> I WILL 2ND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ? ALL

IN FAVOR, AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. >>

[007 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the zoning regulations relating to Planned Development District No. 69 (PD-69), being Lot 2A, and Lot 2B, Block B of Midlothian Business Park Addition, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. The site is located at 3200 Challenger Drive and 3090 Challenger Drive. (Z08-2025-011)]

>> OKAY. ITEM 007. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CANNOT -- AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING REGULATIONS RELATED TO PLANNED DISTRICT NUMBER 69, BEING LOT 2A, AND LOT 2B, BLOCK B OF MIDLOTHIAN BUSINESS PARK ADDITION, CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS . THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 3200 CHALLENGER DRIVE AND 3090 CHALLENGER DRIVE.

>> OKAY. THAT IS TO ALLOW OUTSIDE STORAGE AS AN ACCESSORY YOU SCREENING. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ALREADY IS IN EXISTENCE. THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2014 WITH THE BASE ZONING OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. IT DOES CURRENTLY ALLOW OUTSIDE STORAGE AS AN ACCESSORY USE. IT HAS PRESENT AS THEY CAN ONLY BE 20% OF THE DEVELOPABLE AREA FOR THE USE IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH . IT IS PROHIBITED AS PRIMARY USE. THE PD WAS AMENDED IN 2021 TO DEVELOP BUILDING ARTICULATION STANDARDS FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SHOWN ALONG CHALLENGER , ALONG 67 AND MILLER ROAD. THE AMENDED SITE PLAN SHOWS SOME OUTSIDE STORAGE ALONG CHALLENGER. THERE IS ALSO CONTRADICTORILY -- CONTRADICT THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS NO OUTSIDE STORAGE IS ALLOWED. THIS PD CLARIFIES THAT IT IS ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY USE. AND STILL NEEDS TO MEET THAT PURPOSE OF THE 2021 ORDINANCE TO NOT BE VISIBLE FROM HIGHWAY 287. THESE ARE THE SITES THAT HAVE, THEY ARE LABELED FOR FUTURE TRAILERS SHORTAGE. SO MILLER ROAD IS ANOTHER WAREHOUSE AWAY, GOING EAST FROM THE SITE. HERE IS THE AERIAL . THESE GRASSY AREAS ARE AREAS LABELED AS POSSIBLE TRAILER STORAGE. SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO OTHER STORAGE, AS LONG AS THEY SCREEN IT.

A PROVIDER, THIS IS JUST FOR DISPLAY ONLY. THIS IS NOT PART OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THEY WERE TO SCREEN. THOSE ARE EVERGREEN SHRUBS . I KNOW THE KIND OF LOOK LIKE SUNFLOWERS ARE SOME KIND OF WE.

SHRUBS. AND IN SOME KIND OF TUBULAR STEEL ADOT SO THAT WOULD SCREEN IT FROM CHALLENGER AND IT WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM 67. SO IT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THE NORTH SIDE OF BUILDING ONE AND BUILDING 2. IT WOULD NOT EXCEED EIGHT FEET IN TOTAL HEIGHT. IT IS PROHIBITED WITH OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. 67 AND MILLER ROAD. AND NINE POSTCARDS WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS. WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THE OUTSIDE STORAGE IS ACCESSORY USE.

>> OKAY. QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> MAYOR, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS TRAILERS?

>> YEAH. THAT IS WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY. TODAY, THEY COULD DO THAT WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THIS COMMISSION. THIS IS ACTUALLY SPURRED ON BY A COMPANY THAT IS WANTING TO LOCATE AND -- AND THEY DO PIPING. THEY ARE A PIPE MANUFACTURER . THEY WANTED TO STORE SOME PIPE ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY FOR, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTION. AS IN THE DISTRIBUTION PROCESS.

>> OKAY. SO

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>> NO. I WILL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT. NO, I DO NOT THINK IT IS AN OUTSIDE RETAIL TYPE OF SITUATION.

>> ANSWER THE OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS.

>> GOOD EVENING. NAME IS MATT WALKER. I WOULD SAY IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A RETAIL TYPE OF USE. IT IS STRICTLY FOR THE USER. IT IS PROBABLY RELATIVELY TEMPORARY. IT IS FOR PRODUCT THAT CANNOT GET IN THE BUILDING. WE ARE GOING TO SCREEN IT . IT WILL NOT BE SEEN FROM HIGHWAY 67 WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE PD. THIS IS WORKING TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE.

>> LIKE RAW MATERIALS OR SOMETHING?

>> I WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT RAW MATERIAL. IT WOULD BE FINISHED PIPE OR HVAC EQUIPMENT. THIS IS AN HVAC DOCUMENT SUPPLIER. OR A PIPE SUPPLIER. AND IS ONLY A 45,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE. THAT THEY ARE OCCUPYING IN THE BUILDING. WE ARE LOOKING TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE IN THE PD.

>> THANK YOU. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. >>

>> ALL RIGHT. I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE .

>> 2ND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED?

>>

[008 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance for a Zoning Change from Agricultural (A) District to Planned Development District No. 180 (PD-180), being 53.942+ acres out of the S.G. Haynie Survey, Abstract 526, the J.W. Burks Survey, Abstract 113, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. The site is located on Kemp Ranch Crossing Road, east of Railport Parkway. (Z09-2025-012)]

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED ? THE ITEM PASSES. ITEM 008. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERING ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 180, BEING 53.942 PLUS ACRES OUT OF THE -- SURVEY , ABSTRACT 526, AND THE JW BURKE SURVEY, ABSTRACT 113, CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS.

THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THAT ATTEMPT FRENCH CROSSING ROAD,

EAST OF BRIELLE PORT PARKWAY. >> COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS -- INDUSTRIAL USES. THE CAMP PLAN SHOWS THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL MODULE. THIS IS A PLASTIC MANUFACTURING FACILITY WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE.

IT MEETS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS FOR AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR, AS WELL AS MANUFACTURING ASSEMBLING AND IN A CORPORATE LOCATION. SO TO THE NORTH, IT IS OWNED MEDIUM INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND -- TO THE SOUTH . HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND PD 167, WHICH IS THE POWERMAX OPTION. PD 108 IS TO THE EAST. MARIETTA CORE ADOT TO THE WEST AND IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. THIS IS THE MANUFACTURING FACILITY THEY ARE PROPOSING. IT IS 193,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS WHAT DEVELOPMENT LOOK LIKE. THERE IS A SEPARATE DRIVEWAY FOR EMPLOYEES, AND IN A DRIVEWAY FOR THE LARGE TRUCK TRAFFIC. YOU HAVE A PARKWAY AND -- TO THE WEST. REAL CORPORATE WEIGHT IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL. THERE WILL BE A SECURITY GATE THAT SURROUNDS THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. YOUR MEDIAL STANDARDS, HOWEVER, THEY ARE ASKING FOR ONE. TO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO ALLOW 79 FEET INSTEAD OF 60 FEET FOR THEIR EXHAUST . SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ELEVATION, THEY ARE , THIS WOULD BE THE OFFICE FACILITY ON THE SIDE OF THE CROSSING. ON THE SIDE OF THAT WOULD BE ON THE SIDE ADJACENT TO THE --. SO ON J.J. GRIMES, THEY ARE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SCREENING. FACILITIES IN TENNESSEE AND THEY SHOWED STAFF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT DOES A GOOD JOB OF SCREENING THEIR OTHER OUTSIDE STORAGE FACILITIES. THEY WOULD HAVE LARGER TREES, AND EVERGREEN

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HERE IS THERE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE CONCENTRATION OF LANDSCAPE ALONG KEMP RANCH CROSSING. THERE WERE 17 POSTCARDS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST . WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE APPEARANCE OF 79 FOOT MAXIMUM. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ROADS?

>> THIS ONE? >> NO. HERE WE GO. SO, IS KEMP RANCH CROSSING PAVED ALL THE WAY DOWN? PAST THIS SITE?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. YES. >> OKAY.

>> AND THIS IS THE BUCKLEY ROAD FACILITY.

>> I CANNOT REMEMBER IF IT WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY.

>> WHERE IS THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL HOME TO THIS?

>> BUBBLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE QUARRY. IS THAT WHAT SOMEONE SAID? CONCRETE. IT IS QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >>

>> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS ERIC HOWARD AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF SANDERSON PIPE FROM TENNESSEE. WE HAVE FOUR MANUFACTURING FACILITIES. WHEN IN FLORIDA, TENNESSEE, KANSAS , AND IN HOUSTON, TEXAS, CURRENTLY. 320 IN PLACE. WE MAKE IT UP EDC -- ABC PIPE . THE HALF INCH AND 24 INCH PIPE. PRIMARILY AT THIS SITE, AT LEAST INITIALLY, IT WOULD BE HALF INCH TO 12 INCH. IT COULD BE LARGER IN THE FUTURE. WE ARE PROUD TO MAKE QUALITY PVC PIPE FOR WATER, SEWER, IRRIGATION, PLUMBING, AND WE DO THAT ALL DAY EVERY DAY. WE MAKE IT UP TO GO AROUND THE EARTH 2 1/2 TIMES IN A YEAR. SO EVERY TIME YOU TURN ON THE WATER, FLUSH THE TOILET , IT IS GOING THROUGH PVC PIPES SOMEWHERE. WE ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF GROWING COMMUNITIES SUCH AS MIDLOTHIAN. WE SHIP THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH, THE MIDWEST, UP TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES . WE HAVE A LARGE MARKET PRESENCE. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE DO THAT WE WOULD BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR FOR AN INVESTOR PARK. WE HAVE LOOKED AT MANY SITES. LOOKING FOR RAIL ACCESS AND AFTER LOOKING AT MANY SITES , VERY INTRIGUED WITH MIDLOTHIAN. WE WORK WITH STAFF AND APPRECIATE THEIR HELP FROM NUMBER OF MONTHS NOW. HOPEFULLY CHECK ALL OF THE REQUIRED BOXES.

320 EMPLOYEES APPROXIMATELY AT FOUR LOCATIONS. LIKE I SAID, WE ARE A GROWING COMPANY. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW IN MIDLOTHIAN. WE ALSO HAVE -- IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.

>> WOULD BE INBOUND RAW MATERIALS. OUTBOUND WOULD ALL BE BY FLATBED

TRUCK. >> WHAT WOULD BE YOUR

INSTITUTION AREA? CLEMENT >> AS FAR AS OUR MARKETING AREA? BETWEEN 500-7 -- 500-750 MILES. TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, ARKANSAS WOULD

BE OUR SWEET SPOTS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ARE THERE ANY

>> IT IS A SELF-CONTAINED SYSTEM. IT COMES BY TRAIN.

THERE ARE NO OMISSIONS OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT. IT IS AN EXCLUSION PROCESS. SO IT IS ALL SELF-CONTAINED GOING FROM RESIN AND OTHER MINOR INGREDIENTS TO A FINISHED PRODUCT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

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OKAY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

LAUGHTER ] A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL

RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OF OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WHAT IS THE

PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL? >> MAKE AN APPROVAL WITH --

SUBMITTED BY STAFF. >>

[009 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the zoning regulations relating to Planned Development District No. 114 (UVPD-114), being Original Town, Block 52, portion of Lot 2 from the current Residential Three (R-3) District to Urban Village Planned Development District No. 114 (UVPD-114) for an ice cream shop. The property is located at 105 South 3rd Street, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. (Z10-2025-013)]

DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR , AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? IT IS UNANIMOUS . ITEM 009 AS PRESENTED. THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED. LET ME JUST READ A PORTION OF THIS.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING REGULATIONS RELATED TO PLAN DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 114. I NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE

THIS TO THE MAY 20TH MEETING. >> MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO

THE MAY 20TH MEETING. >> A MOTION IN A 2ND. ALL IN

[010 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance for a Zoning Change from Agricultural (A) District to Planned Development District No. 173 (PD-173) for single family residential uses, being 81.5+ acres out of the A. Newton Survey, Abstract 802, City of Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. The site is located north of Tower Road, and west of FM 663. (Z11-2025-014)]

FAVOR? >> AYE.

>> OKAY. ITEM 10. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ON ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PLAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, BEING EDDIE 1.5 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OUT OF THE CAPITAL A NEW SURVEY, ABSTRACT 802 , CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS. THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF TOWER ROAD, AND WEST OF FM 663.

>> YES, WE HAVE, THIS WAS A SUBMISSION THAT CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. THEY HAVE RESUBMITTED IN THIS IS -- GOING TO , THE REQUEST IS FOR 184 LOTS . IT IS ON TYLER ROAD TO THE NORTH OF ROSEBUD AND DUE WEST OF COMMERCE TRAIL, PHASE 1. ALSO 663.

155 DWELLING UNITS WOULD BE AT 10,400 SQUARE FOOT , 21 TELLING YOU IT'S AT 1300 500 SQUARE-FOOT. FUTURE LAND USE. 2 ACRES -- AND 29 ACRES IS RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY. THE RECOMMENDED DENSITY IN BOTH OF THOSE MODULES IS .51 UNITS FOR COUNTRY, AND -- AND THREE DWELLING UNITS PER RESIDENTIAL INAUDIBLE ]. 15,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THOSE LOTS.

THIS IS, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE 663 HERE. TYLER ROAD HERE , AND -- ELEMENTARY. THE STORAGE UNIT IS HERE. AND THEN MARIETTA QUARRY DOWN TYLER ROAD.

THE EXISTING LAND USES SURROUNDING THEM ARE SOME FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON ALL SIDES, AND THEN YOU HAVE VARYING DENSITY LEVELS ON THESE. RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE LAND-USE HERE, WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL. AND THE ADJACENT DENSITIES IN THIS AREA. TO THE WEST YOU HAVE .5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. NORTH ADJACENCY IS .5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AS WELL. IF ADJACENCY THOMAS TRAIL IS -- PER ACRE, 2.7 TRILLION FOR ACRE. AMSOUTH OF ROSEBUD IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING THOMAS TRAIL. ON THE FAR RIGHT, AND HERE YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED THOMAS TRAIL PHASE 2. HERE IS THE SITE PLAN. AND ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE SITE PLAN YOU HAVE TYLER ROAD. TO THE NORTH ON THIS SITE PLAN, NORTH, IS THOMAS TRAIL, PHASE 1. IN RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL TO THE WEST OF THEIR. THESE DARKER COLORED LOTS OF THE LARGER LOTS. NOT DARKER , I'M SORRY. I GUESS THAT IS A REDDISH COLOR? SO WHEN THEY ARE ADJACENT, OR ARE

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SOME OF THOSE ARE RETENTION. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE PARKED DEDICATION . AND THAT WILL LINK UP TO THOMAS TRAIL, PHASE ONE PARKING TRAIL UP THERE. BUT THESE ARE THE SMALLER, MORE DENSE LOTS.

SO WE HAVE TYLER ROAD WHICH IS THE EAST-WEST CONNECTOR THAT CONNECTS 2663. AND IS A MAJOR CONNECTOR, 80 FOOT DRIVEWAY WITH TWO ACCESS POINTS. ONE WILL BE 3C HERE. AND THAT'S 3A HERE, AND THEN GOING INTO THE EXISTING THOMAS TRAIL. THIS WILL BE AN EMERGENCY INGRESS AND EGRESS THAT CONNECTS OFF THE DRIVE.

THERE WILL BE A MATCHBOX GATE THERE . THAT WOULD BE ONLY BE USED FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. AND THEN THERE IS GOING TO BE A REVISED T.I.A. THAT REFLECT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROPOSED THERE AT TYLER TRAIL AND 63.

SIDEWALKS ON ENTRY AT THE DEVELOPMENT IS OFF-SITE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FOR THIS SCHOOL. THAT CONNECTS TO THOMAS TRAIL, PHASE ONE. FIVE OPEN SPACES FOR RECREATION.

WITHIN THE LARGE OPEN SPACE, YOU HAVE BASKETBALL COURTS, AND THEN PICK UP ALL COURTS. AND THE RETENTION AREAS, YOU HAVE LANDSCAPING AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SOME OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS, YOU HAVE FRONT PORCH -- BAY WINDOWS , WINDOW SIZES.

AND THEN THEY HAVE DECORATIVE -- CONCRETE. AND LANDSCAPING TO TYLER ROAD. THIS IS KIND OF OF BROADER PICTURE OF THE LANDSCAPED AREA IN THE PARK DEDICATION. AND THEN SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE LOT AND RETENTION AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED THERE AS WELL. THIS IS ADJACENT TO CAMELOT ESTATES. 55 LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. TODAY, WE HAVE RECEIVED -- DEATH IS LIKE A MINI DENIAL BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS ADOPTED WITHIN THE PAST SIX MONTHS. THE DENSITY, I THINK THE DENSITY, OVERALL, CALLS FOR ROUGHLY 90-95 LOTS FROM FUTURE LAND USE MODULES. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL ON THIS . I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS

QUESTIONS. >> DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION. THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU. I WILL TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME AND NOT DUPLICATE ANYTHING FROM THE FINE PRESENTATION AND DETAIL THAT WAS PROVIDED. I AM HERE THIS EVENING AND JOINED BY A TEAM THAT INCLUDES BRENT CALDWELL, WHO IS -- AND CHARLES --. AND MOST APPARENTLY, DONNA THOMAS REPRESENTS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF. DO HAVE MY PRESENTATION QUEUED UP? EVENING BY TELLING YOU WHAT WE HAVE BEEN UP TO SINCE WE WERE BEFORE THE LAST. YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LAYOUT AND SINCE WE WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL LAST OCTOBER , AND THE ZONING REQUEST WAS DENIED , WE WERE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH A COUPLE COUNCILMEMBERS . THROUGH A SERIES OF MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, IF I PLAN YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER IS PART OF THE PD IS AN OUTCOME OF THOSE MEETINGS.

AND ALSO FROM THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN, WE HAVE ACTUALLY DECREASED THE LOT FOR ACRE FROM 2.4 TWO 226. AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE INCREASED THE LOT SIZES FROM .23 ACRES TO A LITTLE BIT OVER A

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THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WENT OVER WHERE THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS WERE, BUT WE ARE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THOSE AS DEEMED OPEN SPACES. WE HAVE BEEN REALLY ENCOURAGED BY -- TEAM TO GO OUT INTO THE GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA AND LOOK AT WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE. AND TO REALLY CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOME REALLY UNIQUE FEATURES INTO THESE INDIVIDUAL OPEN SPACES THAT WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH THE ZONING. THAT IS AN EFFORT THAT I WOULD LEAD AND I WOULD REALLY, REALLY WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. WE HAVE GONE OVER THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE ENFORCED TO THE CCR.

] OKAY. WE WERE ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU WHEN WE WERE HERE BEFORE YOU OVER SIX MONTHS AGO , AND WITH THE VARIOUS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS AND WHAT THEY ARE FOR OUR PROJECTS. THE TAKE-HOME MESSAGE, BOTH FOR THE EXTERNAL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR FINISH OUT, IS WE ARE REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF THE PRODUCT THAT WE OFFER IN THE MARKETPLACE. WE WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO BE THE 15TH SUBDIVISION WE HAVE DEVELOPED WITHIN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. WE ALSO SPENT TIME WHEN WE WERE WITH YOU BEFORE, TALKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAD TO VISIT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS , AND HEAR SOME OF THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. SPECIFIC TO THE DRAINAGE AND WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO TELL THEM THAT IS AS A CONSEQUENCE OF BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.

WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS THEY ARE EXPERIENCING WITH THE STORM WATER FLOW. WE HAVE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE THOMAS TRAIL, PHASE ONE, HOA. I GOT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE CHAIR AND TO THE MAYOR THAT WE RECEIVED.

WE , WE ARE BEFORE YOU, WE REPRESENTED WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING A FIBER CONNECTION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWER ROAD THAT WOULD TIE INTO THE SCHOOL CROSSING AT CHARISMA. I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD A CONCERN THAT WE NEEDED TO FORMALIZE THAT AGREEMENT . I BELIEVE THAT SUCH AN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY THE THOMAS TRAIL HOA BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THAT CAN BE EXECUTED UPON FORMAL APPROVAL IF WE WOULD BE SO FORTUNATE TO GET THE ZONING.

SINCE THE TIME WE WERE BEFORE YOU, DURING THE DRC PROCESS THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH , ISSUES RELATING TO WATER CAPACITY, STORMWATER FLOWS, AND THE SEWER ASKED, WE LEARN , AND WE ARE VERY, VERY PLEASED TO LEARN OF -- PLANS TO INSTALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE AT FM 663. WE BELIEVE THAT WILL HAVE A VERY, VERY POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE TRAFFIC ON TOWER ROAD. AND OF COURSE, THE INGRESS EGRESS FROM THOMAS TRAIL PHASE TWO . IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BRENT CALDWELL TO COME FORWARD AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WITH RESPECT TO THE DRAINAGE PLAN THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THIS PROJECT.

>> SEWER. >>

>> , COMMISSIONERS. BRETT CALDWELL. FOR THE LAST TIME WE MET WITH Y'ALL , WE UNDERSTAND THAT DRAINAGE ON THIS TRACK AND

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YEAH. THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE PRESENTED TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS, TAKING DRAINS -- DRAINAGE DOWN BETWEEN THE LOTS, TO THE BACK OF OUR LOTS . IF WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE THE ZONING, A MORE IN-DEPTH DRAINAGE ANALYSIS WOULD BE DONE TO DETERMINE HOW BEST TO ACCOMMODATE THE DRAINAGE NEEDS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

IN THE DRAINAGE THAT FLOWS TO THE WEST. WE GOT ADDITIONAL PICTURES THAT WOULD SHOW THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF X-RAY FEATURES. WE HAVE GOT ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE DATE WHAT WE PLANNED TO DO FOR THE OPEN SPACES . WE HAVE GOT ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON INTERIOR FINISH ON ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ELEMENTS. I WILL TAKE THE LEAD OF THE COMMISSION AND I WILL NOT GO OVER THOSE IN THE PRESENTATION . IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ANY MORE DETAIL, WE WILL RESPOND TO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> OKAY. QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS. SOME FOLKS WHO WISH TO SPEAK. TAMARA WOLF? YOU ARE NEUTRAL.

>>

>> MY NAME IS TYLER WITH. 11 1337, TYLER ROAD. WE ARE IN BETWEEN THE QUARRY AND THIS PROPOSED REZONING. RELIGIOUS LIVE OFF OF A HALF-MILE DIRT ROAD. I WISH , IF IT IS GOING TO BE A BIT WELL-BUILT? IN BETWEEN THIS AND OUR ROAD? HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THE ACCESS TO OUR HOUSE? I DON'T -- LAUGHTER ] IT WAS NOT REALLY SHARED. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

>>

>> YES . >>

>> >> OKAY. OH, WE ARE NOT UP THERE. I AM SORRY. HERE --

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>> AND CARING FOR THIS PROPERTY. TONIGHT I STAND BEFORE YOU WITH YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BOARD AS YOU LOOK TO TRANSITION INTO THE NEXT CHAPTER. OVER THE PAST YEAR, MY FAMILY BASED -- DIFFICULT DECISIONS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

PROPOSAL BUILDS ON THIS LAND'S HISTORY , GIVING IT A NEW PURPOSE FOR GENERATIONS. APP AND FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH -- A DEVELOPER THAT SHARES MY RESPECT FOR THIS LEGACY. THE VERY BEGINNING, THEY HAVE SHOWN THOUGHTFUL, RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT. AS THEIR PRESIDENT SAID TO ME, WE WANT TO BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU WOULD BE PROUD TO SHOW YOUR FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. THAT PROMISE MEANS A GREAT DEAL OF. THIS PROJECT IS NOT JUST ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. IT IS ABOUT CREATING A COMMUNITY. THE PLAN -- THE CAREFUL VISION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE NEW FAMILIES CAN BUILD THEIR LIVES, JUST AS MINE IS DOING. WHILE THERE WERE CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSAL AS CONSIDER, OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS , THEY HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND REFINE THEIR PLANS.

THIS PROJECT NUMBER REPRESENT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY AND MIDLOTHIAN AS A WHOLE. TODAY, ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THIS IS DEEPLY PERSONAL TO ME. I WOULD NOT BE STANDING HERE IF I DID NOT TRULY BELIEVE IT WAS THE -- . IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL, SOMETHING THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE GROWTH AND PROSPERITY OF MIDLOTHIAN FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THIS MARKS A TRANSITION. WILL REMAIN INAUDIBLE ] STANDING ALONGSIDE ALL OF YOU AS THIS CONTINUE CONTINUES TO THRIVE. WITH ALL OF YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION IN

ALLOWING ME TO SHARE MY STORY. >> WOULD BE GREAT SO I HAVE A RECORD.

OKAY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT, MA'AM?

>> INAUDIBLE ] . WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, WE WILL CERTAINLY LET YOU DO THAT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHEREABOUTS TO LIVE IN THE CITY.

>> MY NAME IS ROBIN GROSS AND YVETTE 4221 LANCELOT CIRCLE , AND CAMELOT ESTATES, WHICH IS JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. MY HOUSE FACES WEST. SO WHEN I CAN IN MY FRONT PORCH AND LOOK AT MY A RESULT OF THE FRONT OF ME, THAT IS THE AREA I SEE. I HAVE LIVED IN MIDLOTHIAN SINCE 2006. I HAVE BEEN THE GROWTH OF THE CITY.

I ACTUALLY SUPPORT GROWTH . I LOVE THE FACT THAT I LIVE IN A CITY THAT IS DRIVING. IT IS GAINING. I LOVE THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO LEAVE MY CITY TO GET THE THINGS I NEED AND WANT. MY CONCERN STEMS FROM SAFETY. I HAVE RAISED FOUR KIDS IN THIS HOUSE THAT I AM IN . I TAUGHT THEM HOW TO DRIVE. AND PULLING OUT LEFT TO GO NORTH ON 663 OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IS ALREADY ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE SOMETIMES . IF YOU GO IN THE

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>> SO FIFTYSOMETHING HOMES. I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO TAKE MY LIFE IN MY OWN HANDS SOMETIMES TO LEAVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. EITHER DO THAT OR SIT THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE COUNTED NUMEROUS TIMES. SO I HAVE BIG SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT JUST ADDING FLOW OF TRAFFIC. I AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. BUT I THINK THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE BUILT UP BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO ADD AND AND AND AND. I UNDERSTAND 663 IS A --. PRO. IT IS NOT IN THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY. BUT WHAT IS IN THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY IS CONTROLLING THE GROWTH UNTIL WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH. 663 IS DANGEROUS. THERE ARE TIMES THAT I AM COMING IN FROM THE SOUTH AND HAVE TO TURN LEFT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALMOST GET HIT HEAD-ON BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T PATIENT AND DRIVE DOWN THAT MIDDLE TURN LANE. IT HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES TO ME. I HAVE SEEN IT ALMOST HAPPENED TO OTHER PEOPLE. IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS AREA. WE ARE, OUR INTEREST NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE NEXT ONE DIRECTLY NORTH WHEN YOU ARE COMING FROM TOWER ROAD. SO COMING UP 63 , 653. ONCE YOU HIT ROAD, WE ARE THE NEXT TO THE NORTH. ON THE LEFT, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS THAT I INITIALLY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT AN ENTRY FROM KING ARTHUR DRIVE GOING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I BELIEVE I HEARD THEM SAY THERE WOULD BE A GATE THERE THAT WOULD BE CLOSED OFF. WE ARE AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS ANNEXED IN THAT WE DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS.

OUR KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES IN THE STREET , DOCTOR WALKED IN THE STREET CONSTANTLY. SO I AM GLAD THERE WILL NOT BE ANY TYPICAL TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS . I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT PERMANENTLY BARRED . I UNDERSTAND IT IS GOING TO BE

THERE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. >> I NEEDED TO CLOSE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I BELIEVE I MADE MY CONCERNS KNOWN. I APOLOGIZE I MESSED UP MY FORM SO BADLY. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT . APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY.

>> MIKE, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE REDLINE? 663? YOUR UNDERSTANDING

OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT? >> EXIT WORK TO SIGNAL . SO IT WILL STILL BE A WHILE BEFORE THE DYING -- THE DESIGN IS COMPLETED AND INSTALLED, BUT IT IS IN

PROGRESS AT THIS POINT. >>

>> I WOULD SAY ANYWHERE FROM 12-18 MONTHS. 24 MONTH? IT JUST DEPENDS . THERE IS STILL SOME LONGER LEAD TIMES ON SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. WE FOUND OUT WHEN WE DID THAT AT HAWKINS.

>> OKAY.

OKAY, I HAVE NO OTHER FORMS UP HERE. CAN WE GET EVERYBODY?

>> LAST NAME? OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO COME ON UP? STATE YOUR NAME AND

WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE CITY. >>, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS ADAM FORD. 720 KING ARTHUR DRIVE. I HAVE LIVED IN THE CAMELOT ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD FOR CLOSE TO 10 YEARS. ACTUALLY JUST PURCHASED MY OWN HOME IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I LOVE IT SO MUCH. IT IS QUIET, OUT OF THE WAY, THERE IS A GROWING CONCERN. I WILL RATED WITH FM 663. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT. SHE GOING TO FIVE MINUTES . I HAVE COUNTED 10. JUST SITTING TO WAIT TO PULL OUT OF HER NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO TO WORK. THAT IS MORNING HOURS, EVENING HOURS . IF YOU ARE TRYING TO SLOW DOWN TO TURN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD , WILL OFTEN HAVE INPATIENT DRIVERS COME UP FROM BEHIND YOU , GO AROUND YOU IN THAT CENTERLINE, CUT YOU OFF, AND ALMOST HIT OTHER CARS DOING SO, RATHER THAN SLOWDOWN. EVEN IF YOU GIVE THOSE OTHER VEHICLES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SIGNAL TIME. YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO SLOW DOWN AND STOP. THEY DO NOT. FEET

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THE WATER AUTHORITY COULD NOT PROVIDE A. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. THIS AREA HAS THE POTENTIAL , BUT THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR IT YET. I THINK THAT IS EVERYTHING I HAD TO COVER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

OKAY. DO WE GOT EVERYBODY COVERED? ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SOMETHING CORRECTLY. TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAS THE ACCESS EASEMENT ROADWAY TO HIS HOUSE. THAT ROAD , OR THAT DRIVE OR ACCESS WILL MAINTAIN, PLUS THE ACCESS THROUGH THE NEW

SUBDIVISION . >> IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, THAT IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER STATED THAT

>> I THINK HE MAINTAINS IT NOW. WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY BEING

DRIVEN UPON. >> SO YOU GUYS MAINTAIN THAT

ROAD? >>

>> WANTED TO ASK. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

ORIGINAL ONE . THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>>

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL

APPROVED, AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> DISCUSSION. I SAW ON THE PRESENTATION, THEY ARE GOING TO

>> YES, MA'AM. THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO CELL TOWERS ON THAT PROPERTY . THE ONE THAT IS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER PER THE TERMS OF THE LEASE , WE WOULD ASSUME OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY . WE WOULD EXERCISE THE RIGHT TO GIVE THEM PROPER NOTICE SO THAT

CELL TOWER WOULD BE REMOVED. >> BUT AS A RESIDENT, WE NEED THAT CELL TOWER. HOW IS THAT EQUIPMENT BEING RE-ESTABLISHED?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. INTERNET TOWER, NOT A CELL TOWER. THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT YOUR CELL PHONE COVERAGE.

>> OKAY. AND OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE WILL OF THAT

TOWER? >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

>> OKAY. SO IT IS AN OLD --

>> IT IS NOT ACTUALLY BEING USED?

>> PREPAID BETWEEN THE PNC AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO HAVE A SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO THAT. PEER

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT NONE OF THOSE ARE RECEIVING UTILITIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WHATEVER HAPPENS IS ON THE

CIVIL PRIVATE SIDE. >> UNDERSTOOD. IS THAT AN ACTIVE TOWER RIGHT NOW? IT IS? GOES AWAY , SOMEBODY IS GOING TO LOSE UNLESS IT IS TRANSFERRED SOMEWHERE, CORRECT?

>> A QUESTION FOR THE MAYOR . ON THE STAFF OF THE NEW RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL , THE DENSITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IS 50 WATTS OVER THE DENSITY FOR THE SO EARLIER THIS EVENING, WE DID COLLECTIVELY MOVE TO APPROVE ONE

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WOULD BE WHAT? >> I AM NOT FOLLOWING YOUR

QUESTION. >> YUP. SO DOES STAFF RECOMMEND

DENIAL? >> YES .

>> THE DENSITY IS -- THAT'S OVER --

>> I'M SORRY. >>

>> I GUESS IT WOULD BE 131. >> YEAH, I GUESS GETTING TO THE

DENSITY NUMBER. >> I HAD A CLOSER TO 90. YOU HAVE ABOUT -- IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS LITTLE CORNER UP HERE, THIS IS MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL MEDIAN DENSITY. THE REMAINING IS COUNTRY MODULE. THAT IS WHERE YOU GOT THAT, THAT KIND OF MIX OF LAND-USE TO WHERE YOU COME UP

WITH THAT NUMBER OF USE. >> OKAY, THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ASK. MY OTHER QUESTION IS 3AM STREET B. AND SOME OF THE OTHER PD SET UP COME FORWARD. WE GENERALLY DO NOT LIKE THESE LONG STREETS LIKE THIS. IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? IT LOOKS LIKE WE JUST HAVE ONE STOP SIGN ON STREET A. I ASSUME THERE WILL BE

A STOP SIGN? >>

>> EMERGENCY ACCESS IS SHOWN

>> YOU ARE CORRECT, MR. DONNELLY.

>> WITHOUT A PLAN THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF STREET J?

>> I THINK IT IS C. 3C. >> WHATEVER THIS ONE IS. YES,

SIR. >> YEAH, YEAH. IN THE MIDDLE

THERE. >> FROM HERE TO HERE.

>> AND AM I NOT SAYING -- STREET J?

>> IS A GREAT HERE, YEAH. >> THAT INTERSECTION. THAT WOULD

BE --? >> OKAY.

>> THAT WOULD BE CENTER THERE. >> YES, SIR. EVEN MORE SO. IT WOULD BE

>>

SOMEBODY SPOKE TO THAT EARLIER. >> OKAY.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> THIS IS, I MEAN, THE LOT SIZE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS COMPARABLE TO -- TRAIL ?

>> YES, SIR. >> AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WAS

THAT DIFFERENT ZONING? >> THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN?

>> YES, I'M SORRY. >> I THINK , I THINK I DON'T KNOW. I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

>>

AM ON THE WRONG PRESENTATION. >> THOMAS TRAIL, PHASE ONE, WAS

DONE -- >>

>> SO A COUNTRY MODULE. OKAY. OKAY, SO THEY WENT, I GUESS SO.

>> OKAY. SCOTT, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DENY

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>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A 2ND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANYBODY OPPOSED? TWO OPPOSED . 5-2. THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY. STAFF .

>> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSION?

>> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.