[Call to Order, Pledges, and Invocation ] [00:00:19] COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 P.M. AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH INVOCATION AT PLEDGES, INDICATION WILL BE LED BY THE RECENTLY SEMIRETIRED PASTOR AFTER FOUR YEARS OF MINISTRY HAS GONE TO DRIFT OFF INTO RETIREMENT, WITH TODAY'S INDICATION. JOIN US HAS HE LEADS US IN PRAYER. >> I AM NOT SURE WHAT RETIREMENT ACTUALLY MEANS. I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN IN MIDLOTHIAN FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND SEEN MANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SERVICE OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVE IN THIS WAY AND I WANT TO THANK YOU , YOU NEED ALL THE HELP AND THE PRAYER AND THE SUPPORT YOU CAN GET. AS YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS, ALL THE COMFORT AND I WANT TO PRAY, I WAS PRAYING ABOUT HOW TO PRAY AND THE LORD PUT PSALM 86 IN MY HEART , ABOUT KING DAVID AND HIS NEED FOR HELP AND COMFORT. HE MADE A STATEMENT AT THE END, BOARD, SHOW ME YOUR FAVOR . SHOW ME A SIGN OF YOUR FAVOR, LET'S PRAY THAT, LORD, I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS CAPACITY. I PRAY THAT YOU GIVE THEM GREAT WISDOM AS THEY MAKE THESE DECISIONS. I PRAY FOR UNITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN SPITE OF DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS, WE WALKED TOGETHER AND THE ENVIRONMENT YOU BLESS. I DO PRAY FOR EACH OF OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS THAT YOU SHOW THEM A SIGN OF YOUR FAVOR, THAT YOU WOULD GRANT THEM GREAT COMFORT AND HELP IN THE TIME OF NEED. BOARD , SHOWED -- LORD, SHOW THEM FAVOR IN BUSINESSES, MARRIAGES, SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND I PRAY THAT THEY WOULD RECOGNIZE THE DIVINE SIDE OF YOUR FAVOR AND CAN TAKE THAT MOMENT TO GIVE YOU THANKS AND PRAISE, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> IF YOU WOULD ALL STAND AND I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES THIS EVENING. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO MY FLAG AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. [2025-329 Announcements/Presentations ] >> THANK YOU , PASTOR. WE BEGIN WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS, QUARTERLY BOARD COMMISSION LIAISON REPORTS. WE WILL GO FROM MY LEFT TO RIGHT. GET SOME UPDATES. DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR US, MIKE? >> WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IN MIDLOTHIAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT , SALES TAX DOLLARS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURCHASED AN ACRE AND A HALF TO PROVIDE FOR MORE PARKING. THAT IS IN THE INITIAL BEGINNING STAGES, I BELIEVE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 100 , A RANGE, 55 TO 180 FOUR PARKING SPACES WHICH MAY HELP WITH THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVITIES. STAY TUNED. FOR MORE INFO ON THAT COMING. ALSO, WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK PLAN UPDATE , WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING A LOCAL BUSINESS PROMOTION TO ATTRACT NEW CUSTOMERS . ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL BUSINESS AND IF YOU OWN A SMALL BUSINESS, YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU ATTRACT MORE CUSTOMERS. PLEASE EMAIL THE CITY SECRETARY OR MYSELF AND WE WILL GET YOU THE INFORMATION. THOSE GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR SALES TAX DOLLARS COLLECTIONS. WE DID HAVE A BIANNUAL COMMUNITY FORM WITH ABOUT 20 COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IT [00:05:05] SHOWED THE COMMUNITY , GAVE THEM A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE MED AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT SMALL PROPORTIONALITY, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY, SALES TAX DOLLARS, GOOD BIT OF FOLKS AND WE HAD GOOD INTERACTION. LASTLY, THE MED HAS CONDUCTED A SURVEY WITH RESIDENTS AND WE FIND THAT MIDLOTHIAN RESIDENTS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ACTIVITY AND PROGRESS OF MIDLOTHIAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ITS ACTIVITIES, BLOSSOM AND GROW, THOSE RESULTS WILL BE POSTED ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE VERY SOON, SO STAY TUNED . IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HOW THOSE TURNED OUT. >> COUNCILWOMAN HAS -- HAMMONDS IS LIAISON TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. >> THE OTHER HALF OF WHAT MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR SALES TAX DOLLARS COME I WILL GO TO THIS REPORT THAT I TOTALLY WROTE IT MYSELF. LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON, THE BUSINESS RETENTION AND MARKETING SUBCOMMITTEE , THEY HAVE A LOT OF FOCUS IN DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE OF SEVENTH STREET CONSTRUCTION , THEIR FIGURING OUT HOW TO KEEP FOOT TRAFFIC. FOR BUSINESSES IMPACTED BY CONSTRUCTION . OCTOBER 28TH , 1:00 P.M. , AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING TO EXPLAIN PROMOTIONAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES . IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS INTERESTED IN THAT, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE FACADE GRANTS AND OTHER SUPPORT . THAT YOU CAN ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS. WE ARE WORKING ON A REFRESH OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND THAT IS OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, IT WILL LOOK REALLY NICE. THEY ARE POURING A NEW -- DID YOU MENTION THE STRONGER TOGETHER EVENT? THE STRONGER TOGETHER EVENT IS HELD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, FOR BUSINESS OWNERS , BUSINESS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO CONNECT WITH THE CITY . THERE WERE OVER 80 PEOPLE WHO CAME , IT WAS REALLY GREAT, UPDATE ON THE BUSINESS, OR ON BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH . A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WILL MENTION, A LOT GOING ON, MCDC RECENTLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY OFF OF SHADY GROVE. THEY ARE CALLING IT THE TRAIL HOUSE PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A TRAILHEAD , IT IS VERY WOODSY . GETTING IT CLEANED UP RIGHT NOW. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM WICKLIFFE IS PLANNING AND ZONING BUT ALL THOSE COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL SO NO NEED FOR AN UPDATE. COUNCILMAN SHUFFIELD IS LIAISON TO THE LIBRARY BOARD . >> YEAH, LIBRARY IS A VERY ACTIVE PLACE , IF YOU DO NOT COME INTO THE LIBRARY, YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW BUSY IT STATES. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM, THROUGH AUGUST, THERE WERE 876 READER PARTICIPANTS AND THEY LOGIN 221,093 MINUTES OF READING . A LOT OF TIME PUT IN. THE GROWTH OF THE LIBRARY, IN TERMS OF CARDMEMBERS, PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN AND CHECKING OUT BOOKS, FROM 20 -- ONE YEAR, THERE WAS A 209% INCREASE IN CIRCULATION THROUGH THE LIBRARY, 166% INCREASE IN LIBRARY USAGE. KEEPING THE STAFF VERY BUSY, KEEPING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PLACES RESERVED AND MORE PEOPLE WANT TO USE THAN THE SPACE IS AVAILABLE AND THERE WAS A FALL READING CHALLENGE, TIME TO START BACK UP, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A COLLEGE PROFESSOR, DOESN'T IT? TIME TO CRACK THE BOOKS , FALL READING CHALLENGE THROUGH NOVEMBER WILL BE FALL BACK TO THE CLASSICS. GO IN AND CHECK OUT SOME CLASSICS AND LET'S [00:10:03] START READING. >> MY LEFT, COUNCILMAN MOORMAN IS THE PARKS AND REC LIAISON. YOU HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT. >> SORRY FOR MY TARDINESS. I JUST HAVE ONE THING THAT IS A RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENT, THAT WAS GETTING SOME SPECIFIC PARAMETERS TO THE ABILITY IN OUR VETERANS MEMORIAL TO HONOR VETERANS , STANDARD GUIDELINES , THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT AND WE WILL SEE OPPORTUNITIES COMMUNICATED OUT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA , EMAILS , WHAT NOT, TO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY , A LOVED ONE WHO HAS SERVED, IT IS NO LONGER WITH US. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION AND HAVE THEM HONORED AT THE MEMORIAL. I WAS PROUD OF THE WORK THEY DID. TO GET THOSE PARAMETERS. OF COURSE, THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARKS ACTIVITIES THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY BEING UPDATED. MOST RECENTLY, THE FOCAL POINT OF HERITAGE PARK , THERE RIGHT BY THIS BUILDING, THEY HAVE AN UPDATE LAST NIGHT ON THAT. I WILL JUST MENTION THOSE TWO. I SERVE AS LIAISON TO THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD, THAT BOARD MEETS QUARTERLY, HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING AND THERE IS NO UPDATE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM B., CITY COUNCIL REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANY EXPERIENCES YOU HAVE HAD? I WILL MENTION A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS, THIS SATURDAY, HERITAGE DAY , DOWNTOWN MIDLOTHIAN . THE MIDLOTHIAN FALL FESTIVAL IS A LONG PART OF OUR COMMUNITY'S HISTORY, IT HAS TAKEN PLACE SINCE I WAS A YOUNG CHILD AND HERITAGE DAY WHERE THE COMMUNITIES COME TOGETHER AND EAT AND ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY. I WILL MENTION, A FALL SHOWCASE FOR A NEW BASKETBALL TEAM , PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL TEAM, GAMES FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY, AT THE OLD HISTORIC GYMNASIUM, PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL , SHOULD BE A GREAT TIME. LAST THINGS, NOVEMBER 1ST, ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION AT COMMUNITY PARK AND THERE IS A CONCERT THAT NIGHT . SPENT ALL AFTERNOON, ALL EVENING AND ENJOY YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS. WE USUALLY HAND OUT TREES SO GET A FREE TREE AND STICK AROUND FOR THE CONCERT . ANY OTHER [2025-330 Citizens to be heard] COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS ? WE WILL MOVE ON TO 2025-330, THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON A TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A PARTICIPATION FORM , PRESENT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY AND SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES . ANYBODY SIGN UP ? JANE? STATE YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS. >> JANE, I AM A RESIDENT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. I HAVE TALKED TO ANNA, CLARK. I AM NOT AN UNFAMILIAR FACE. THERE ARE OTHERS HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, ALL OF THEM HERE , CONCERNED ABOUT AIR QUALITY IN OUR AREA. WHAT WE WANT, THE CITY , THE INFLUENCE TO HELP ENSURE THAT SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE. ORIGINALLY , I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP TO EITHER ALLOW TCEQ TO FOOT THE OFFICIAL MONITOR ON CITY PROPERTY, OR DIFFICULTIES WE SEEM TO BE HAVING WITH THEM BEING ABLE TO MEET CITY CODE, PRIVATE LANDOWNER, IT IS SLATED TO GO RIGHT NOW. CLYDE JUST UPDATED ME AND SAID, YES , THEY HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH. MAYBE WE HELP MOVE THE NEEDLE A LITTLE BIT. Y'ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES. IT [00:15:05] IS THINGS LIKE THIS THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE ON, TOO, AND NOT JUST WAIT FOR A GROUP OF CITIZENS TO SHOW THEMSELVES AND SAY , YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR HEALTH. YOU NEED TO BE DOING THINGS THAT MOVE US FORWARD IN THAT AREA. THAT IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW. THERE ARE CITIES LIKE DALLAS AND FT. WORTH , GRAND PRAIRIE, WHO ARE DOING A LOT MORE AS FAR AS MONITORING IS CONCERNED. WE KNOW YOU DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THE OFFICIAL AIR QUALITY MONITOR THE DATA IT COLLECTS IS THE ONLY WAY WE ARE SAFEGUARDED FROM ANY INDUSTRY ACTIONS THAT EXCEED SAFE STANDARDS. THAT MONITOR IS SUPER IMPORTANT AND BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION FOR 3.5 AND GOING ON FOUR YEARS. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO INTERACTION FROM Y'ALL . I DO NOT KNOW THE REASONS FOR TURNING DOWN THE CITY LOCATIONS, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN. I HAVE ASKED ABOUT THAT, I NEVER DID QUITE GET AN ANSWER AND WHO IS MAKING THE DECISION AND WHY? YOU COULD BE MORE OPEN ABOUT THAT. I AM VERY HAPPY THAT YOU DID TAKE ACTION, I APPRECIATE THAT , AND WE HOPE WE CAN HAVE THAT KIND OF COOPERATION AS FAR AS SAFEGUARDING OUR HEALTH AND THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE BESIDES ME CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IT IS IMPORTANT , ESPECIALLY FOR OUR SENIORS , OUR GRANDKIDS. WE HAVE A NEW WEBSITE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO TO IT, [CONSENT AGENDA ] MIDLOTHIANBREATHE.COM. >> ANY OTHER SPEAKERS TONIGHT? APPLAUSE ] >> CONSENT AGENDA, ALL THESE MATTERS ARE ROUTINE, ENACTED BY ONE MOTION, IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED THE ITEM CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDER SEPARATELY, THIS IS 2025-331. ON THE ORIGINAL AGENDA, A-J, BUT THAT INCLUDES AN ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA WHICH INCLUDES ITEM K. BE AWARE OF ALL YOU ARE VOTING ON BEFORE WE VOTE. ANY COUNCILMEMBERS LIKE TO PULL ANY ITEMS? A-K? HEARING NONE, A MOTION TO APPROVE. GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE, BY SHUFFIELD AND SECONDED BY HAMMONDS . ITEM PASSES, 6-0. 2025-332, PUBLIC [2025-332 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the regulations relating to the use and development of Lot 1 and Lots 3 through 11, Block 1, Massey Heritage Addition, presently zoned Planned Development District No. 98 (PD-98) by granting a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for internally lit monument signs. The property is generally located on the northeast corner of South Walnut Grove Road and FM 1387. (SUP05-2025-058) ] HEARING AND CONSIDER ORDINANCE WITH REGULATIONS WITH LOTS 3 THROUGH 11, BLOCK 1, MASSEY HERITAGE ADDITION, PRESENTLY ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NO. 98 (PD-98) BY GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT (SUP) FOR INTERNALLY LIT MONUMENT SIGNS. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH WALNUT GROVE ROAD AND FM 1387. >> A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. TO CHANGE THE LIGHTING ON THE MONUMENT SIGNS, CURRENTLY 20.849 ACRE LOT CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION . CONFERENCE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS A NEIGHBORHOOD LOCAL BOTH FRONTAGES ON THE SOUTH AND WEST BOUNDARIES ARE 125 FOOT WIDE, THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE CURRENTLY APPROVED EXTERNAL FLOOD LIGHTING TO L.E.D. ILLUMINATION TO IMPROVE VISIBILITY AND BUSINESS IDENTIFICATION. THIS LIGHT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT ZONING, AND LAND-USE DESIGNATIONS. HERE IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATIONS , CURRENTLY APPROVED SIGNS FOR PERPENDICULAR, ALL OVER 200 FEET [00:20:05] FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES. YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP RIGHT, LIGHTS AND SIGN A ARE 8.5 HIGH AND SEPARATED FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THEY ARE ROUGHLY THE SAME. THE REST OF THE ELEVATIONS. TOTAL OF 70 POSTCARDS WERE MAILED TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, WE RECEIVED NO OBJECTION . STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUP , FOR MONUMENT SIGNS, COMMISSION VOTED 5-0 TO APPROVE THIS CASE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? >> GOOD EVENING, I AM ONE OF THE APPLICANTS, THE 20 ACRE PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED AT WALNUT GROVE, IT IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL, STATE HIGHWAY , WIDENED TO SIX LANES, THIS REQUEST IS AT THE REQUEST OF TWO OF OUR MAJOR TENANTS, TOM-TOM AND MCDONALD'S, AS IT'S IT -- TOM THUMB AND MCDONALD'S, TO BE EXTERNALLY LIT WITH FLOODLIGHTS, CONCERNED ABOUT HOTSPOT, SHADOWS, AND VISIBILITY OF THE SIGNS, AND THAT IS WHY WITH OUR MAJOR TENANTS WE REQUEST WE GO TO INTERNALLY LIT SIGNS. THE KEY POINTS ARE, ENHANCING THE VISIBILITY OF THE SIGNS, INCREASING THE VISIBILITY OF THE ACCESS POINTS , THERE ARE THREE ACCESS POINTS IN THE CENTER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS AND INTO THE CENTER AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. SO PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING TO GO BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING NEIGHBORS AS POSSIBLE , TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE 50 FOOT SETBACK, EIGHT-FOOT WALLS, AND ADDING TREES AND LANDSCAPE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL. LOOKING THROUGH MIDLOTHIAN, WE FOUND A HANDFUL OF OTHER INSTANCES WHERE THERE ARE INTERNALLY LIT MONUMENT SIGNS. THE MIDLOTHIAN TOWN CROSSING , 287, THE MIDLOTHIAN CROSSING, WALMART CENTER ON 67 711 AT NINE AND -- NINTH AND HAWKINS AND THE BERKSHIRE -- BROOSKHIRE CENTER AND WE REQUEST WITHOUT ANY DIMMING LIMITATIONS. >> SINCE THAT IS ALL THE PUBLIC INPUT, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS , SECOND BY WICKLIFFE , PLEASE VOTE. ITEM IS CLOSED, 6-0. STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR REDUCING L.E.D. BRIGHTNESS TO 60% OF THE MAXIMUM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED AN APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT AS IT IS. WITH THAT, I OPEN UP DISCUSSION FOR DISCUSSION . >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE , SIGN A, TYPE A IN LOT 1, TEN FOOT SIGN? >> TEN TO THE TOP OF THE CAP IT STOPS AT ABOUT EIGHT FEET, SAME AS THE MASONRY WALL. >> DIDN'T YOU PLAN TREES ? >> THAT IS CORRECT ALONG BOTH SIDES WITH RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT. >> WAYNE? >> ONLY QUESTION IS REGARDS TO THE DIMMING ISSUE, INDISCERNIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] >> SURE. >> I WANT TO HEAR THE ARGUMENT. >> SURE. WE HAVE TRIED TO KEEP ALL LIGHTS FACING AN EQUAL HEIGHT, THEY SHOOT UP AND CAST [00:25:02] SHADOWS, TRYING TO GO -- >> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE GOING INTO ANYBODY'S BACK WINDOW? >> NO, SIR. >> ALLEN? >> ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR CHRIS, HOW CONFIDENT ARE THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT HAVE A COMPARABLE PRODUCT ? >> THE ONES HE MENTIONED, THE CODE -- I THINK OUR CODE OUTLAWS THEM, EXCEPT FOR IN SUP CASES WHERE THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED. >> I DID DO SOME RESEARCH WHEN THEY CAME IN, THERE ARE INTERNAL LIT SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY , AT SOME POINT, 2017, THE ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED TO TO ELIMINATE ILLUMINATED SIGNS . >> THANK YOU. >> MIKE? >> NO. >> ANNA? >> BACK TO MARY, SAFE TO SAY, WHAT WAS THE REASON? 2017, STOPPING THAT? >> YOU KNOW, I COULD NOT FIND THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT WHERE THAT WAS APPROVED. TO SEE WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS. A LOT OF CITIES HAVE PROXIMITY REQUIREMENTS FOR INTERNALLY LIT SIGNS. BUT, MOST CITIES DO NOT HAVE THAT LIMITATION. >> MIKE? >> SO, DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY? THE LAST TIME ONE OF THESE INTERNALLY LIT SIGNS 2017 ? >> THAT IS WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS CHANGED . >> WHEN WAS THE LAST ONE APPROVED ? >> THIS YEAR, THE 7-ELEVEN WE APPROVED ON 287, IT IS NEAR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. >> GOING BACK TO 2017, REMEMBERING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I TOGETHER SO THE REASON WHY , INTERNALLY LIT SIGNS, IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD SHIFT -- A MORE MODERN SIGN STRUCTURE, TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT TYPE. EXPLAIN , MY QUESTION IS AROUND, WHERE DOES THE 60% BECOME ACCEPTABLE FOR STAFF? THEY ARE REQUIRING 70% , STAFF ESSAY WE WANTED 10% REDUCTION. HOW DO WE COME ABOUT 10% ? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT? >> WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE DIMMING REQUIREMENT FOR ALL FIVE SIGNS, THE ONE CLOSEST TO A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE. WE HAD JUST LOOKED AT WHAT THE BRIGHTNESS MEANT AND WHAT IT WAS RELATIVE TO. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT CAN GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THE BRIGHTNESS MEANS IN CONTEXT FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. HONESTLY , I THINK STREETLIGHTS CREATE MORE SIGNS , THE STREETLIGHTS ARE MEANT TO ILLUMINATE THE ENTIRE STREET FROM CURB TO CURB , IF YOU HAVE A STREETLIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, YOU WILL GET LIGHT SPILLAGE FROM THE STREETLIGHTS. >> DID WE BASE THE 10% REDUCTION OF ACCEPTANCE OFF OF OTHER CITIES 60 PERCENTILE ? TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MEASUREMENT IS EXCESSES. >> WHERE DID THE 60% COME FROM? >> GIVE [00:30:03] ALTERNATIVES AND SEE IF THAT -- WE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT . IT IS A VERY ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY BUILT THE CHAMBER WHEN THE ZONING CAME, WHEN THEY TALK TO US ABOUT THIS, WE WANTED TO GIVE THE COUNCIL OPTIONS TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF WAYS IT COULD BE MITIGATED. >> THANK YOU . >> I DO NOT HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE THE SIGNS THEMSELVES BUT I DO HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE SIGNS. I REMEMBER WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE NEW L.E.D. SIGN BY THE PARK, AS YOU COME OUT OF THE COUNTRY, IT WAS SUPERBRIGHT. I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GAUGE 70% VERSUS 60% ON A PIECE OF PAPER BUT I DO KNOW THAT , WHEN YOU WERE LEAVING LONG RANCH, IT WOULD BE EAST ON 1387, THE FIRST COMMERCIAL THING YOU WILL SEE IS THIS FACILITY AND IT CANNOT BE BLINDING BECAUSE IT IS COMING OUT OF THE RESIDENTIAL SETTING AND I ADVOCATE TO IMPROVE BUT USE THE L.E.D. BRIGHTNESS LIMITATIONS. >> BACK WHEN WE APPROVE THIS, I OVERSAW THIS ONE, AND THE CONVERSATION, A MEASUREMENT , I BRING UP , THE 60% DIMNESS , IS THAT A MEASUREMENT OF NITS? 60% OF WHAT? >> I WILL LET YOU ANSWER THAT . >> AS I UNDERSTAND , IT IS A UNIT OF LIGHT MEASUREMENT, SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY'S CODE, A REFERENCE TO 500 NITS , -- >> >> THAT IS WHAT THE CITY HAS IN TERMS OF LIGHT LIMITATION REQUIREMENTS. MEDICAL REGULATION, YOU COMPARED THE TWO, CORRECT ? WHAT WERE THE NITS ? EACH SIGN CREATES ABOUT 50 NITS OF LIGHT IN AGGREGATE IF THEY ARE TOGETHER. THE CODE REFERENCES 500 NITS . >> WHEN WE SAY 60%, 60% OF 500 NITS ? >> MAX VOLUME . I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. >> BACK IN THE DAY, WE COULD SAY , DO NOT MAKE THE LIGHTS TOO BRIGHT, NOW, EVERYTHING IS ILLEGAL. >> SO, WHEN I LOOKED AT NITS, I SAW WHAT THEY WERE INTERPRETED AS. IF YOU, YOUR SCREEN FOR YOUR CELL PHONE CAN BE REALLY BRIGHT, BUT , ACTUALLY , MONUMENT SIGNS ARE NOT THAT BRIGHT, I FORGOT THE NUMBER, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 80, RIGHT? SO, WE WERE BASING IT ON WHAT A TYPICAL MONUMENT , INTERNALLY LIT SIGN WOULD BE. >> DOWN TO 60%. OKAY. >> ANNA? >> THE CONCERN FROM THE RETAILERS THEM THERE ARE OTHER LIGHTS AND THE SHOPPING CENTER, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SHOPPING CENTER SIGNS ARE CLEAR ENOUGH SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM THEY DO NOT WANT THEM TO BE TONED DOWN SO MUCH THEY ARE FUZZY OR GRAY AND NOT LEGIBLE , THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO BLIND ANYBODY. THEY DO NOT WANT TO CREATE A GLARE. THEY THINK A BACKLIT SIGN, THEY THINK IT IS STANDARD, -- >> DO WE HAVE ANY ORDINANCE OR HAVE THE ABILITY, IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS TO THE SIGNS, ON ORDINANCE WHERE WE CAN REGULATE [00:35:04] SIGNED BRIGHTNESS? >> THE REGULATION RIGHT NOW IS 500 NITS . I DO NOT KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A CODE VIOLATION IF THEY ARE TOO BRIGHT. YOU DO NOT WANT LIGHT SPILLING INTO ADJACENT PARCELS. >> I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE. >> THE 500 NITS IS CUMULATIVE , THE FIVE SIGNS TOTAL 2500. THEY ARE NOT TOGETHER TO CREATE 250 NITS AT ONE POINT. >> ARE YOU SAYING EACH SIGN EMITS 50 NITS? >> YES. >> ANNA? >> ON THE OTHER INTERNALLY LIT SIGN, VOLUME ] >> NO, THERE IS NOT. I NOTICED THAT, LOOK AT 12 DIFFERENT CASES , INTERNALLY LIT SIGNS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED RECENTLY, SINCE 2017, ARE USUALLY IN A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. BUT IT WAS THE SIGN THAT WAS CLOSEST TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE STRONGLY RECOMMENDED DIMMING. >> MY ISSUE WITH BRIGHTNESS IS L.E.D. SIGNS. >> WHEN I DRIVE BY, IT IS DARK, DROP A KROGER, PARKING LOT LIGHTS, MCDONALD'S INTERNALLY LIT, ALL OF IT. AS LONG AS THE SIGN LOOKS GOOD. >> I WANT TO ECHO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID , THE ONLY SIGNS THAT ARE PROBLEM ARE THE SUPERBRIGHT -- THE MIDDLE SCHOOL , THIS WILL FINALLY TURNED IT DOWN. THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. LIGHT. POLLUTION BEYOND THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS -- >> OKAY, FINAL COMMENTS? MIKE? >> I WOULD ASK STAFF, THIS IS NEW, I DO NOT FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LOT OF CLARITY ABOUT THE BRIGHTNESS. I NEED MORE CLARITY. IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ON BRIGHTNESS. FOR ALL I KNOW, THEY DESERVE 80%. >> YES, SIR. >> CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION SO WE CAN PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE? >> 60% OF 80. JUST FOR SIGN A. >> A IS 80? >> WE LOOKED OF AVERAGE BRIGHTNESS FOR A MONUMENT SIGN, 50 TO 80, I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NUMBER BUT I WOULD ERR ON THE HIGH SIDE. >> CAN WE GET RID OF SIGN A AND ILLUMINATE THE PROBLEM. >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE 60% OF SOMETHING. 60% OF WHAT? >> I HAVE A MOTION. >> FINAL COMMENTS? >> NO, I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER . THEY DO NOT HAVE DOWN CASTING STREETLIGHTS? >> WELL, THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS ARE DOWNCAST . THEY DO A GOOD [00:40:06] JOB OF KEEPING THE LIGHT CONTAINED. YOU CAN DRIVE PAST THE WEBER DEVELOPMENT. >> ANNA HAS A MOTION. I DO NOT WANT TO IGNORE WHAT ALLEN PRESENTED BUT I PREFER THE SIGNS TO BE UNIFORM. I WILL TAKE YOUR MOTION . >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND? >> STAFF'S OR PNZ'S? >> PNZ'S. >> WITHOUT THE 60% ? >> IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN HEYMANS -- HAMMONDS, SECONDED BY WEAVER , DISCUSSION ? PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES, 4-3. OKAY. 2025-333. [2025-333 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance relating to the use and development of Lots 3, 4, 5, and 6, Block 1 and alley majors of Original Town of Midlothian, being 615 N. 7th Street, by changing the zoning from Commercial (C) District to Light Industrial (LI) District. (Case No. Z23-2025-061). ] CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF LOTS 3, 4, 5, AND 6, BLOCK 1 AND ALLEY MAJORS OF ORIGINAL TOWN OF MIDLOTHIAN, BEING 615 N. 7TH STREET, BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL (C) DISTRICT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL (LI) DISTRICT. >> THE EXISTING STRUCTURE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1959 AND WEST OF EIGHTH STREET AND NORTH OF AVENUE B, THE PROPERTY WAS OWNED R-3 WITH THE 1989 CITYWIDE ZONING AND THE APPLICANT CAME IN AND 2022 TO REQUEST A REZONING FROM R-3 TO COMMERCIAL AND THAT WAS APPROVED . THE COMPANY IS A PLANT DESIGNATES THE SITE COMPONENT OF THE ORIGINAL TOWN MODULE WHICH IS COMPRISED OF A STORK AND MODERN BUILDINGS. NONRESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS SHOULD REMAIN WALKABLE WITH ATTENTION TO THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND ORIENTATION TOWARDS THE STREET. IT SAYS THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL SHOULD HAVE CONNECTIVITY FOR VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS AND DOES NOT RECOMMEND INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE, SITE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS FROM RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND THE NEAREST THOROUGHFARE IS EIGHTH STREET, A CITY BLOCK AWAY FROM THE SITE. THE ADJACENT , WE DID A QUICK DRIVE-THROUGH SITE VISIT OF THE AREA TO THE CONTEXT OF THE AREA, THERE ARE COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTIES AND THE COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING, BUT THERE IS ALSO A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL , AND THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARS TO BE MORE RESIDENTIAL WITH LIMITED EXTERIOR SIGNAGE. THE DOWNTOWN PLAN , THE SITE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE STUDY FOR THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. IT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE MIXED-USE TRANSITIONAL AREA AND THEIR TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AREA WHICH BOTH SAY NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE CONTEXT AND CHARACTER OF THE AREA. FOR USE OF MATERIALS AND HISTORY AND CULTURE IN MIDLOTHIAN . WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE LAND USES , THE DIFFERENCES IN LAND USES BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WHILE THERE ARE A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THE ADDITION OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DOES ALLOW SOME USES THAT ARE INCOMPATIBLE AND INCONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL TOWN MODEL SUCH AS THE ANIMAL POUND SHELTER , THE APPLIANCE STORE, AND RODEO GROUNDS, WITH SPECIAL USE PERMITS YOU CAN ALSO HAVE WRECKER SERVICES OR VEHICLE SALVAGE. WE LOOKED AT THE DESIGN [00:45:06] STANDARDS AND THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR, EXCEPT YOU DO NOT NEED ANY MINIMUM LOT WITH SIZE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND YOUR COVERAGE CAN GO TO 85%. OUTSIDE OF THAT , COMMERCIAL, AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FULFILLS REQUIREMENTS. WE DID SEND OUT 28 POSTCARDS TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AND WE RECEIVED SEVEN LETTERS IN OPPOSITION BUT ALL OF THE OPPOSITION WAS FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET. BASED ON OUR RESEARCH AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, WE RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST BECAUSE IT IS INCOMPATIBLE AND INCONSISTENT AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, THEY SUPPORT A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DENY . AT THAT MEETING , THERE WERE TWO SPEAKERS WHO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST. THAT IS MY PRESENTATION. DID YOU SAY YOUR NAME WAS MARY ANNE? NICE TO MEET YOU. DID ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2000. THEY TOLD ME, IT WAS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, I OWNED THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH , STILL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. ACRES TO THE NORTHWEST, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. CITY MAINTENANCE FACILITY PROPERTY WAS REZONED COMMERCIAL. ALL THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET WERE ZONED -- THAT BUILDING WAS ZONED RESIDENTIAL . 26,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, THE HOUSING ACROSS THE STREET ZONED COMMERCIAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO LOTS AND PART OF THE HOUSE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL AND PART OF THE HOUSE IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL, IT WASN'T OBVIOUS CITY MESS UP -- IT WAS AN OBVIOUS CITY MESS UP AND I WANTED REZONED TO DO WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS. THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING. IT IS TRUE I DID ASK FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING. I HIRED AN ATTORNEY WHO WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN COLLECTING A $3500 AND NOT INTERESTED IN CORRECTING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIS OWN BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR. >> ANYBODY ELSE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ? IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> YES, SIR, I LIVE APPROXIMATELY ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY. A LOT -- I AM NOT WITHIN 200 FEET SO I DID NOT GET A LETTER. I AM A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF MIDLOTHIAN . I HAVE MY ROOTS HERE AND PLAN ON STAYING HERE UNTIL I AM GONE. IT DOES NOT FIT IN THE MIDLOTHIAN PLAN TO HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COURTHOUSE ON EIGHTH STREET , ONLY WAY INTO THIS PROPERTY IS THROUGH EIGHTH STREET 463 OR SEVEN STREET -- EIGHTH STREET, SEVENTH STREET. WITHOUT IN THE 18 WHEELER RIGS , LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN HAS PLAN. IT DOES GO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IT COULD BE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. INDISCERNIBLE ] I FEEL LIKE YOU DISCUSSED A LONGTIME ABOUT SOME LIGHTS ON TOM THUMB, AND, I DON'T KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN THE SAME PLACE AS TOM THUMB? OUR HOUSES ARE HISTORICAL, AGE, OUR HOUSES ARE OLD MIDLOTHIAN . FROM THE MAIN PLAN GOING FORWARD, YOU ARE LOOKING AT [00:50:05] BUYING MORE PARKING, COMMUNITY PROJECTS, TRACKING BUSINESSES. TO ME, TO ZONE SOMETHING THREE BLOCKS AWAY FROM YOUR MAJOR CITY CENTER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WILL NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF MIDLOTHIAN . I AM HERE TO REAFFIRM MY OPPOSITION TO THIS . AS I DID AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. MY UNDERSTANDING , IT WAS A DONE DEAL AND I DID NOT KNOW WE WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL BUT I UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS A LITTLE BETTER. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW MY THOUGHTS AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING. NO OTHER SPEAKERS A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. VOTE. CLOSED, 7-0. QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT AS NEEDED? I WILL KICK IT OFF, IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT MIND STANDING BACK UP. IS THERE A CURRENT USE YOU ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH ? >> CURRENTLY USED BY A GYM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIS OWN BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED, THE TENANT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THAT WOULD INCREASE MY ABILITY TO LEASE THE BUILDING IN THE FUTURE. WORRIED ABOUT -- WERE IT ABOUT INDUSTRIAL TRUCKS, THERE ARE NO TRUCKS HEAVIER THAN THE CITY TRASH TRUCKS. THE CO WOULD CONTROL WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS GOES IN, THE CITY WOULD HAVE CONTROL . >> LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HAS CERTAIN USES. IT WOULD GIVE YOU CERTAIN USES BY RIGHT THAT COULD IMPACT THE TRAFFIC FLOW. >> IT COULD, ALL THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL AND THAT WOULD GREATLY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC. I DO NOT SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. >> I WOULD LIKE A CONFIRMATION FROM STAFF, THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL, I IMAGINE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SPACE ONLY ? >> YOU HAVE A COMBINATION . LET ME GET BACK TO THE SLIDE, A COMBINATION OF COMMUNITY RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL. YOU DO HAVE SEVERAL FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL. >> THEY WILL FALL WITHIN OUR REGULAR CURRENT ZONING ON COMMERCIAL? WHAT CONCERNS ME, SO YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR, WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT IS PERMITTED UNDER COMMERCIAL, IT WILL BE BY RIGHT IF WE APPROVE, ONE OF THOSE USES THAT IS ALL I NEED. >> THAT WAS DONE, REZONING WAS DONE 35 YEARS AGO. THE MASTER PLAN. THE MASTER PLAN HAD NOT WORKED IN 35 YEARS , I WOULD RECONSIDER THE MASTER PLAN. ALL THE BUILDING EXCEPT THE CITY FACILITIES IS TO THE SOUTH. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY WOULD ZONED IT UNLESS THEY PLAN ON GETTING RID OF THE HOUSES AND BUSINESSES DOWN THERE. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT. >> I CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT EITHER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION . >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? A MOTION ? >> COMMENTS, IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE COMPARISON CHART WHICH JUST DISAPPEARED FROM THE SCREEN. INDUSTRIAL -- INDISCERNIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] TOWER TYPE 1, TYPE 2 IS THE SHORTER ONE, 80 , 100 FOOT , A WATER TREATMENT PLANT , THERE IS [00:55:03] DEFTLY SOME USES THAT MIGHT WORK ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEHIND A CITY YARD. I DO NOT SEE A REASON TO CREEP IT BACK IN TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. VERY INCOMPATIBLE. IT COULD HAVE A RODEO GROUND, THAT IS CORRECT. THE EXISTING BUILDING IS NOT SET UP FOR THAT. IF THERE IS A PLAN, ACTUAL USE SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND EXPAND THE BENEFIT OF, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT A BIT -- WE WILL TAKE -- >> WE WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> MOTION. >> MOTION TO DENY BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS . SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. [2025-334 Consider and act upon approval of a detailed site plan relating to the development of Lot 3-B3, Block 1, Hawkins Meadows Commercial, located in Planned Development District No. 68 (PD-68). The property is generally located on the south side of Hawkins Run Road, and east of FM 663. (SP04-2024-096)] >> THE DENIAL PASSES, 7-0. REGULAR AGENDA -- 2025-334 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON APPROVAL OF A DETAILED SITE PLAN RELATING TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF LOT 3-B3, BLOCK 1, HAWKINS MEADOWS COMMERCIAL, LOCATED IN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NO. 68. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HAWKINS RUN ROAD, AND EAST OF FM 663. >> SITE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED RETAIL CENTER WHICH IS A MULTITENANT SHOPPING CENTER, CURRENTLY A 0.896 ACRE , UNDEVELOPED LOT WITH COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING. THE COMPANY PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS NEIGHBORHOOD LOCAL RETAIL MODULE AND THIS IS BEING PRESENTED AS A PEATY STATES THAT DEVELOPMENT ON THE SLOT REQUIRES A DETAILED SITE PLAN WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND COUNCIL -- INDISCERNIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT ZONING , AND FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS , CONFERENCE OF PLAN. HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS , A ONE-STORY STRUCTURE, HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE . STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS , CURRENTLY LANDSCAPING LOCATED IN A UTILITY EASEMENT WITH NO COORDINATION OF THE APPLICANT AND FRANCHISE UTILITY COMPANY. PUBLIC AND PRIVATE EASEMENT, ALSO NEEDED AND A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR DRIVEWAY SPACING AND SIGNAGE NEEDED TO BE PLACED AND YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLES IN PARENTHESES. THE RETAIL CENTER SITES PLANT WILL REQUIRE SEVEN VARIANCES , STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AS PRESENTED . COMMISSION VOTED TO DENY THIS CASE, 5-0. >> ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ? IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? COUNCIL , REGULAR AGENDA ITEM , NO PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? I HAVE MAJOR ISSUES WITH THIS, PERSONALLY. >> WORKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. I WANT TO STATE THAT. I HOPE IT IS SUCCESSFUL. OKAY. >> LOOKING AT THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY OF THE AREA TURNAROUND ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY. ADJACENT TO THE COMMON AREA LOT. THE SUBDIVISION ? >> THAT IS CORRECT . >> IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS SOME ATTEMPT TO GREET A REAR CIRCULATION DRIVE , I CAN REMEMBER THE SITE PLAN BUILDING THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED NEXT TO THE STARBUCKS, IS THERE ONE [01:00:02] BETWEEN THIS AND STARBUCKS? >> I THINK SO. STATE FARM OFFICE ? >> THAT IS CORRECT . >> ON 9TH STREET, YOU HAVE A LOT A VEHICLE TRAFFIC INTERFACING ADMIN POINTS. FROGGER TYPE EXPERIENCE NAVIGATING THAT. I DO NOT WANT TO REPLICATE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF THE APPLICANT ASK YOU, WHY DO YOU THINK YOU GOT DENIED, LOW VOLUME ] I WAS READING THE NARRATIVE AND NOT GETTING TO SEVEN. >> YOUR MOTION? >> I MOVED TO DENY. >> SECOND. >> I MOTION TO DENY BY MAYOR PRO TEM WICKLIFFE , SECONDED BY COUNCIL ITEM -- COUNCILPERSON HAMMONDS . DENIED. 2025-335, [2025-335 Consider and act upon authorizing the City Manager to execute an Agreement for Professional Services for design and other related professional services for the S. 14th Street Roadway Extension Project with AKV Consulting Engineers in the sum of $422,881, plus a $20,000 Owner’s allowance, for a total amount of $442,881] CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR DESIGN AND OTHER RELATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE S. 14TH STREET ROADWAY EXTENSION PROJECT WITH AKV CONSULTING ENGINEERS IN THE SUM OF $422,881, PLUS A $20,000 OWNER'S ALLOWANCE, FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $442,881. MIKE? >> WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EXIT -- EXIT RAMP, PERMIT, THIS IS THE LAST OF THE 2021 BOND PROJECTS. THIS IS THE LAST ONE THAT IS PART OF THE BOND PROJECT, GAP BETWEEN -- THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN, BRIDGE STRUCTURE, PART OF THIS DESIGN, ALONG WITH THE OTHER -- ULTIMATELY UP TO BID. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS . >> ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? WOULD YOU COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR , CUSTOMERS , JOSH, I LIVE ON SOUTH 14TH STREET. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS ABOUT -- WHILE THIS PROJECT WAS THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EVERY PROJECT AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. THE COUNCIL RETAINS FULL DISCRETION TO REASSESS COST -- SINCE THE BOND WAS PASSED, CONSTRUCTION AND MATERIAL COSTS HAVE RISEN SHARPLY, 14TH STREET BRIDGE EXTENSION REQUIRE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE FUNDING THAN INITIALLY ESTIMATED. MOVING FORWARD, THESE CONDITIONS WITH RESOURCES FROM OTHER ESSENTIAL PROJECTS THAT COULD BETTER SERVE A PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PAUSE AND RECESS THE BRIDGE EXTENSION STILL PROVIDES THE SAME VALUE TAXPAYERS -- BEYOND THE FINANCIAL CONCERNS, THIS PROJECT DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE SAFETY AND KEEPS THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE ALONG EIGHTH STREET, THE PROPOSED BRIDGE WILL BRING FASTER TRAFFIC AND HEAVIER VEHICLES THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY A QUIET, RESIDENTIAL AREA AND INCREASE THE VOLUME CREATES LEGITIMATE SAFETY RISKS FOR CHILDREN , VETERANS, CYCLISTS WHO USE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DAILY. NOISE POLLUTION IS ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE , SOUND VEHICLES CROSSING ELEVATED BRIDGE WILL CARRY FARTHER AT ALL HOURS , ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. THIS IS [01:05:04] JUST NOT INCONVENIENT, IT AFFECTS QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROPERTY VALUES OF NEARBY HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE WORKED HARD TO BUILD THE LIVES HERE AND MORE THOUGHTFUL WAYS TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY WITHOUT PUTTING -- PUSHING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THROUGH EXISTING EFFORTS , SOUND MEDICATION OPTIONS , OR POSTPONING THE BRIDGE UNTIL A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF COSTS AND LABOR IMPACT -- I WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE -- I AM NOT HERE TO OPPOSE PROGRESS -- RESPONSIBLE GROWTH SHOULD ENHANCE COMMUNITY AND NOT ENDANGER OR DIMINISH IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS . OTHER SPEAKERS? COUNCIL , QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS CASE? MIKE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN? >> 15TH STREET HAS BEEN ON FOR SOME TIME AND SOME HISTORY GOING BACK, WHEN DOVE CREEK WAS DEVELOPED, THIS SEGMENT OF 14TH STREET WAS FARTHER TO THE EAST, IT COORDINATED WITH DOVE CREEK, AND, 14TH STREET HAS BEEN ON FOR MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND IT INITIALLY WAS PUSHED FARTHER TO THE WEST, IT HAS BEEN SINCE DOVE CREEK WAS OWNED , 14TH STREET WAS PUSHED BACK TO THE EAST. >> CLARK ? >> I WORRY THAT , STREET PARKING WILL BE AN ISSUE. I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE HANDLE HERE. ON STREET PARKING IN DOVE CREEK. >> IF THE PROJECT -- 14TH STREET DESCRIBED FOR FOUR LANES -- >> ROSS? >> TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. EXPECTED THREE-FOOT VEHICLES. THE LAST THREE COPIES OF PLAN UPDATES, -- THE LAST THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES PICKUP AND SCHOOL DROP OFF, MORNING COMMUTE, TXDOT HAS PLANS TO UPGRADE THE FACILITY. WITH OUR PLANNING AND THOROUGHFARE INDISCERNIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] >> CURRENTLY STANDS , 14TH STREET, A POTENTIAL OF INVOLVE -- THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT ON THE NORTH-SOUTH. >> >> YES, SIR. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION , THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN. WE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR THE BID . >> THE DECISION TONIGHT, FEASIBILITY REQUIRE, UTILIZING THE FUNDS, TO SEE WHAT IS REQUIRED, >> YES, SIR. >> >> MIKE? >> GOING BACK, MID-TEENS WAS WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT. OF COURSE, THE STATE HAS AWARDED THAT, EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE, THAT HAS BEEN THE INTENTION , THE PURPOSE OF THAT CONNECTOR , NORTH-SOUTH ARTERIAL [01:10:06] IS OFF 663, WHICH WE KNOW IS A MASSIVE PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT. I HAVE SEEN SOME DROPOUTS OF -- HOW FAR OUT CAN THAT BE? >> >> WE HAVE TO FIND SOME RELIEF FOR 663. I AM VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THOSE CONCERNS. WITH SOME ENGINEERING FORMATS, SIGNAGE , IF WE COULD DIRECT SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW WE WILL GET AROUND THIS CONNECTOR. >> CLARK? >> A COMMENT. THAT, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I AM A RESIDENT OF DOVE CREEK. I UNDERSTAND IT IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT IS BEST A LARGE FOR 46,000 PEOPLE. WE HAVE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE WHOLE. >> IT IS UNFORTUNATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DESIGNED WHERE THE HOUSES FRONTED. [2025-336 Consider and act upon authorizing the acceptance of federal grant dollars under the Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) funding opportunity.] >> MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES, 7-0. 2025-336 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF FEDERAL GRANT DOLLARS UNDER THE STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE, SAFER, FUNDING OPPORTUNITY. CHIEFS, WELCOME. >> AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER, APPROACHED US ABOUT FUNDING POSSIBILITIES OF A SAFER GRANT AND WE RECEIVED THIS IN 2008, BUT THIS IS FOR STATION 4 STAFFING . WE WORKED WITH A GRANT WRITER AND WE FOUND OUT SEPTEMBER 24TH, WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT, THAT IS FOR NINE POSITIONS THAT WOULD GET US TO OPEN STATION FOR -- 4 . THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE GOING TO WORK INTO WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY -- I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GRANT. WE'LL WORK ON IT. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> DID ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ? COUNCIL QUESTIONS ? >> WE HAVE THE RAMP-UP PLAN, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP , ABOUT THE SAME TIMEFRAME. WHAT THIS IS ALLOWING, FEDERAL DOLLARS TO RAMP-UP DAY ONE, THE SAME FISCAL IMPACT OF THESE ADS. >> BIT. GIVE YOU THE DOLLARS, WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES FOR EDUCATION , WE HAVE A CURRENT LIST, WITH THAT, GRAB OUR FIRE, PARAMEDICS, IT TAKES NINE TO 10 MONTHS , THAT PUTS US IN A POSITION SEND PEOPLE TO SCHOOL, HIRING OVERTIME TO FILL THOSE OPEN POSITIONS. >> FROM EIGHT DOLLARS AND SINCE 10 POINT, WITH THE MATCHING FUNDS -- FROM EIGHT DOLLARS AND SINCE STANDPOINT -- DOES THIS GENERATE SAVINGS BASED ON FORECASTED BUDGETS? >> IT IS PUSHING THEM UP QUICKER. YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, IT MAY BE CLOSE TO A WASH. WE GET THEM FASTER , BETTER SERVICE TO OUR COMMITTEE. FOR THE SAME DOLLARS. WE COULD GO DO THE MATH AND SEE IF WE SAVE A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE. [01:15:06] THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TAKE A MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVED. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MOORMAN. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES, 7-0. ITEM [2025-337 Consider and act upon a Consultant Services agreement with Nikki Diller for the establishment of the Midlothian History Museum and Visitor Center in an amount not to exceed $132,000 and authorize the City Manager to execute. ] 2025-338 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A CONSULTANT SERVICES AGREEMENT -- 2025-337 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A CONSULTANT SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH NIKKI DILLER FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MIDLOTHIAN HISTORY MUSEUM AND VISITOR CENTER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $132,000 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE. >> MIDLOTHIAN HISTORICAL MUSEUM , WITH THE AID OF THE HISTORICAL -- MR. RODGERS , WE REACHED OUT AND FOUND NIKKI DILLER, VICE PRESIDENT OF COLLECTIONS FOR THE MUSEUM OF SCIENCE AND HISTORY, JUST IN A FEW CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH HER, VERY EVIDENT REAL QUICK THAT SHE KNEW A LOT MORE THAN I DID. REALLY, THERE ARE QUESTIONS , A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS COME FROM, WE HAVE THE HAB, ADVISING THE CITY ON HISTORICAL PROPERTIES, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF MIDLOTHIAN AND CREATING A MUSEUM AND A LOT OF THE MUSEUM STEMS FROM THE MIDLOTHIAN HISTORICAL SOCIETY WHICH IS A 501(C)(3) AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY AFFILIATION DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY . IT IS THE MARRYING OF THOSE TWO ENTITIES THAT SPARKED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS. HOW DO WE AS A CITY TAKE SOME OF THESE COLLECTIONS, HOW DO WE BORROW THEM? HOW DO WE DISPOSE OF THEM? A CONVERSATION WITH NIKKI DILLER, THOSE ARE THE FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS AND YOU COVER THOSE IN THE FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS SCHEDULE AND DELIVERY. IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR PACKET, I DO NOT THINK I HAVE ANYTHING IN HERE. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECT PHASES, PHASE ONE IS THE PLANNING AND FOUNDATION AND PHASE TWO IS CAUGHT TO DEVELOP, PHASE THREE IS THE DESIGN OF THE APPROVALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT . PHASE FOUR IS FABRICATION OF INSULATION, PHASE FIVE IS OPERATIONS AND LOCKED. -- LAUNCH. THIS IS PART OF HER SCOPE OF WORK AND THE ROUGH SCHEDULE IS APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS TO CREATE CRADLE-TO-GRAVE HISTORICAL MUSEUM. THE FIRE ADMIN BUILDING. I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND PROBABLY PUNT REAL QUICK TO NIKKI DILLER BUT THIS IS A VISION TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE HOT TAX, APPROXIMATELY $482,000 IN THE HOT TAX FUND, THIS $132,000 WOULD COME FROM THAT AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> DID ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ? THE BOARD CHAIR -- >> WE HAVE A LOT OF THE HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD BEHIND US . >> YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK, MS. DILLER. WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT OR TIMELINE, WITH THE RECENT PROPOSAL FOR A 12 MONTH TO 18 MONTH PROJECT AND RIGHT NOW I HAVE IT BUILD OUT TO THE 18 MONTH TIMELINE BUT IF THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN MORE EXPEDITED TIMELINE, I AM HAPPY TO REVISIT THAT AND HAVE AREAS THAT CAN BE CONDENSED. >> QUESTIONS, COUNCIL ? >> I WAS AT FIRST DISAPPOINTED WHEN I SAW 18 MONTHS BUT I SAW THE INSTALLATION. CONSULTANTS SAYING THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THIS FASTER. I APPRECIATE THAT. NORMALLY WE STUDY IT FOR 18 MONTHS . I THINK IT IS GREAT. >> WONDERFUL . >> MY QUESTION MAY BE BETTER DIRECTED TO STAFF, DO WE ANTICIPATE STAFFING OR OTHER [01:20:03] RECURRING EXPENSIVE -- EXPENSES ? >> THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAPPEN IN THE FIRST THREE PHASES, CURRENTLY, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH FINANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SEE HOW WE NEED TO STOP THIS MUSEUM. >> A FACILITY THAT CAN BE FUNDED ON A RECURRING BASIS , IF WE SO CHOOSE TO DO THAT? >> YES . THERE IS A PART TEST THE COMPTROLLER GIVES, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE. >> MIKE? >> MY QUESTION REVOLVES AROUND THE 18 MONTH PROCEDURES AND CYCLE, IS A POSSIBLE, THERE ARE FUNDING PROCESSES, THAT COULD BE TAKING EFFECT SOONER? AND THE BUILDING PERHAPS BEING OPENED . WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A FORMAT FROM START TO FINISH, I AM ASSUMING YOU ARE ABLE TO WALK AWAY AT THAT POINT. IS THERE A FORMAT OR OPPORTUNITY TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME ACTIVITY IN THE MUSEUM PRIOR TO 18 MONTHS? IF WE HAVE ANOTHER FORMAT IN THAT BUILDING, SIX MONTHS, IT IS SITTING THERE FOR A YEAR, WONDERING IF THEY WILL GET SOME ACTIVITY . >> I THINK THERE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT WHEN MAKING EXHIBITS , ESPECIALLY INTERACTIVE ELEMENTS, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TEST THEM BEFORE YOU FULLY START THEM AND FULLY OBLIGATE THEM. EARLIER ON, THE TIMELINE, YOU COULD HAVE BETA TESTING THAT COULD GO ON IN THAT SPACE TO MAKE SURE THE INTERACTIVE'S ARE HITTING THE MARK BEFORE THEY GO INTO FABRICATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH . I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED. MULTIPLE SECONDS. I HEARD COUNCILMAN WEAVER'S VOICE THE LOUDEST. VOTE. ITEM PASSES, 7-0. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND [2025-338 Consider and act upon a Consultant Services agreement for a Community Survey by the ETC Institute at a cost not to exceed $24,250 and authorize the City Manager to execute. ] THOSE COMMENTS. ITEM 2025-338 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A CONSULTANT SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR A COMMUNITY SURVEY BY THE ETC INSTITUTE AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $24,250 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE. >> THANK YOU , THIS IS -- WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT -- OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS , DOING A COMMUNITY SURVEY , THIS IS A GROUP THAT THEY USED , I THINK WITHIN THE PAST SIX MONTHS , TO DO A SURVEY SPECIFICALLY ON THE BUSINESS PLAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT . WE REACHED OUT TO THE ORGANIZATION AND THEY HAVE DONE MANY COMMUNITY SURVEYS IN BURLISON , HIGHLAND PARK, UNIVERSITY PARK , LOXAHATCHEE , THEY DO THEM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THE SURVEY, IT IS A RANDOM SAMPLE OF 500 SAMPLE POINTS THROUGHOUT THE MIDLOTHIAN . WITH THIS 500 SURVEYS , IT GIVES US A DECISION OF 4.4% AT THE 95% LEVEL, A HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE . WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SOLICIT THESE RANDOM SAMPLES. FIRST OFF, WE WILL DEVELOP THE QUESTIONS. WE WILL GET THE RANDOM SAMPLES. THEY WILL EMAIL AND SNAIL MAIL THESE PARTICIPANTS IN THERE TO GET THEIR RESPONSES, IT WILL GIVE THEM A LINK TO THE WEBSITE AND BE UNIQUE LINKS SO THEY CAN TRACK SPECIFICALLY THOSE PEOPLE THEY ARE GETTING. IF THEY ONLY GET 450 BACK, THEY GO OUT AGAIN AND TRY TO GET THOSE THAT THEY WILL GET THOSE 500 SAMPLES. WE SEND OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, MR. RODGERS , MR. MOORMAN, WE TAKE THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY WHICH WILL BE SEPARATED FROM THE RANDOM SAMPLING. WE WILL GET TWO DIFFERENT SNAPSHOTS OF HOW PEOPLE FEEL. HOW DO YOU LIKE TRAFFIC ON SOUTH 14TH ? HOW DO YOU LIKE OUR PARKS? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE NEW CITY HALL? JUST VARIOUS QUESTIONS THAT WE WILL DEVELOP TOGETHER. THAT WILL GIVE US A GOOD GAUGE, THE CITIZENRY , WHERE THEY THINK HOW [01:25:01] WE ARE DOING, WHERE WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE IF WE ARE FAILING IN PLACES ? LIKE I SAID, IT WILL SEPARATE THE SOCIAL MEDIA RESPONSES AS OPPOSED TO THE 500 RANDOM SAMPLES . WE CAN COMPARE THOSE TWO AS WELL. THE TOTAL COST IS $24,250 WHICH IS TO BRING THE ETC INSTITUTE IN TO PROVIDE A SYNOPSIS AT THE END, EXPLAINING THE PROCESS AND THE RESULTS. I WILL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I GET SURVEY RESULTS EVERY DAY ON MY EMAIL. THANKS. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ? COUNCIL QUESTIONS ? >> AN ATTEMPT TO VET RESIDENCES VERSUS NONRESIDENTS ? >> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO . >> MIKE, WE CAN TRACK WHERE IP ADDRESSES ARE, CAN'T WE? >> AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT USING A VPN. SOMEBODY A LOT SMARTER THAN I AM. >> I LIKE THE IDEA 500 TARGETED THAT WE KNOW. THEN, THE SAMPLE RESULT ON SOCIAL MEDIA , FOLKS FROM MIDLOTHIAN, VIRGINIA . >> I TOOK THE MED ONE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I THINK I GAVE THE ADDRESS OF CITY HALL. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THOSE TWO SEPARATE PACKETS OF INFORMATION . ONE FROM THE 500 SAMPLES WE KNOW ARE MIDLOTHIAN RESIDENTS , AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA ONES THAT MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT. >> WHAT DO WE HOPE TO LEARN FROM THIS? ARE WE GIVING THEM GENERAL AREAS TO WORK WITHIN? >> THEY HAVE DONE THOUSANDS OF SURVEYS ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. THERE IS A FRAMEWORK THEY HAVE. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT TRAFFIC? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE YOUTH ACTIVITIES? ALL THESE QUESTIONS THEY HAVE. THAT IS JUST A TEMPLATE . THAT IS JUST A SUGGESTION. WE SAY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT DOWNTOWN ? WOULD YOU LIKE MORE PARKING ? ARE YOU COMPLETELY SATISFIED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORKABILITY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA ? WE START WITH A TEMPLATE AND GO FROM THERE. >> I JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE ASK THEM DO THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE CITY STREET SIGNS? SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY IS CONTEMPLATING. IT IS HARD FOR ME TO SAY, YEAH, I HAVE NO IDEA EVEN A SMATTERING OF SAMPLE QUESTIONS. I CAN SEND YOU A LOT OF THE SAMPLES, THEY PROVIDED ME WITH A LOT. NOBODY HAS EVER SAID WE WANT TO CHANGE THE STREET SIGNS TO PINK. >> AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT GREEN, WE ARE GOOD. >> WHAT DO WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS INFORMATION ? >> GETTING THE PULSE OF MIDLOTHIAN , A RANDOM GEOGRAPHIC SAMPLE, TOO TO FIND OUT HOW THE PEOPLE ON NORTH WALNUT GROVE COMPARED TO THE PEOPLE ON COVENTRY. DO THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF MIDLOTHIAN ? IT GIVES US A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE PULSE OF MIDLOTHIAN . >> TO BE UTILIZED BY THE COUNCIL ? >> OR STAFF FOR BUDGETARY PURPOSES , STRATEGIC PLANNING. >> IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE, IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES, 5-2. MOVING ON, 2025-339 CONSIDER AND [2025-339 Consider and discuss appointing members to the stakeholder focus group for the Design Overlay for the Downtown District project and direct staff as necessary. ] DISCUSS APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE STAKEHOLDER FOCUS GROUP FOR THE DESIGN OVERLAY FOR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT PROJECT AND DIRECT STAFF AS NECESSARY. THIS IS ON ME. COUNCIL , YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT AT THE BEGINNING STAGES OF IMPLEMENTING A [01:30:01] DOWNTOWN , OLD TOWN OVERLAY PROCESS . WE NEED TO A POINT A STEERING COMMITTEE TO HELP US HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, THERE WILL BE A FACILITATOR FOR ORGANIZATIONS PUTTING TOGETHER. WE NEED , AS I'M SURE EVERY COUNCILMEMBER WOULD APPRECIATE, LOTS OF COMMUNITY INPUT. OBVIOUSLY , ALL OF THE MEETINGS WE HAVE WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. MANY WILL BE GEARED TOWARDS THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND GIVING FEEDBACK. WE WILL HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE. GIVING FEEDBACK AND GIVING US AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION. WHETHER TO APPROVE OR SUPPORT. WHAT I'M ASKING OF YOU, WHAT DO WE WANT OUR PROCESS TO BE TO APPOINT THE MEMBERS TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WE NEED FOLKS LIVING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE NEED SOME BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. HOW DO WE DO THAT , HOW DO YOU WANT TO SELECT? IN THE PAST WITH THESE COMMITTEES CAN THE COUNCILMEMBERS COULD SELECT TWO PEOPLE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER PATHS. MIKE? >> I WOULD ASSUME THE QUESTION IS, PERCENTAGE OF COMMUNITY WOULD BE ALLTEL MEMBERSHIP? THAT IS A CONVERSATION COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE . THERE WILL BE SOME SELECTION PROCESS MASTER PLAN PROJECT. I ASSUME THIS WILL BE HANDLED IN KIND OF THE SAME FORMAT. MAYBE NOT AS MANY MEETINGS AS THE DOWNTOWN. THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST TAKE ON IT. >> ANNA? >> I WAS PICTURING US HAVE A PERCENTAGE. IN THE PAST, I THINK WE ALL THREW IN, WE HAD A LIST, I MAY BE MAKING THIS UP. EACH PERSON PICKS TWO, I LIKE IT WHEN WE HAVE A FULL LIST YOU CAN LOOK AT. DOWNTOWN MASTER LIST PLUS RESIDENTS. >> RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF RESIDENTS , ET CETERA ? IDENTIFY WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE WOULD BE. >> ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD. TO WHO LIVE IN THE AREA AND OUTSIDE. >> THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION . >> DID ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A RESPECTABLE AMOUNT OF OLD TOWN RESIDENTS . NOT KNOW THAT THEY KNEW THEY COULD MAKE A STATEMENT. THEY HAVE A VERY DETAILED OPINION ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK. HAVE WE APPROACH THE PROCESS ? I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO HEAR FROM THEM. I WOULD ASSUME -- YOU JUST ASKED IF ANYONE WAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I ASSUME THEY NEED TO FILL OUT A FORM QUICKLY. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU BETTER FILL OUT A FORM QUICKLY. >> THIS IS OUT OF ORDER, I WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. IF YOU DO NOT MIND STATING HER >>NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE. ASHLEY DAVIS, -- >> I LIKE THE THIRD, THIRD, THIRD. PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT SAVE OLD TOWN, WE HAVE A LOT OF [01:35:05] PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OLDTOWN. A CROSS-SECTION OF EVERYONE. INAUDIBLE ] I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN MY TWO CENTS, THIRD, THIRD, THIRD. >> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> I HAVE VERY LITTLE TO ADD, I FEEL STRONGLY, THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE OLDTOWN AREA SHOULD HAVE A STRONG VOICE IN THIS. WITH WHATEVER IS DONE, WE ENDURE IT, WE LIVE IT, IT IS OUR HOME, I FEEL THERE SHOULD BE A STRONG CONTINGENT OF RESIDENTS. >> BEFORE YOU LEAVE, IF IF YOU DO NOT MIND FILLING OUT A FORM FOR TAMMY. >> >> BECAUSE THIS IS A HOT TOPIC, I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP FOR A FULL COUNCIL DISCUSSION. THE MORE PEOPLE, THE MORE OPINIONS. WE NEED TO GO TO THE PROCESS. TO FINISH IT OUT. I AM OPEN TO IDEAS. ROSS? >> I RECOMMEND WE DO IT IN MULTIPLE OF THREE SINCE WE WILL SPLIT IT INTO THIRDS. THIS OVERLAY ENCOMPASSES THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR, I THINK THERE IS AN ELEGANT AND WHAT CLARK SAYS, WHETHER VISITING OLDTOWN , YOU MAY DRIVE THROUGH IT, YOU ARE ON MAIN STREET. SOMETHING THIS COMMITTEE WILL DISCUSS, HELP PUT TOGETHER , ] NOT JUST ON THE OLD BUSINESS 287. I THINK IT IS VALUABLE. IF EVERYBODY THROWS THREE NAMES IN A HAT. WE DISTILL IT DOWN FROM THERE. INFINITE NUMBER OF WAYS. MAYBE REACHING OUT TO SOCIAL MEDIA OR OTHERWISE TO SOLICIT INTEREST IN THIS PROCESS , SO WHAT IS NOT US SAYING, HERE ARE THREE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO MAY HAVE AN INTEREST. >> OKAY. CAN WE SET UP A WEBPAGE WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP TO BE CONSIDERED ? AND WE CAN GET INFORMATION FROM THEM. WHAT ABOUT THESE THREE CATEGORIES? I WILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE -- LET'S SEE HOW I WANT TO WORD IT. I DO NOT WANT THE GROUP TO EXPAND TOO LARGE, WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER AND A MULTIPLE OF THREE? 18? EIGHT? I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY, THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS WHERE EVERYBODY IS INVITED. WHY DON'T WE TARGET 12? IS 12 AMENABLE? WE COULD DO A SUBMITTAL PROCESS ONLINE , PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT THEIR NAMES FOR CONSIDERATION AND WE WILL GET ALL THE NAMES FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL AND HOPEFULLY NOBODY CRUCIFIED US IF THEY DON'T GET SELECTED. >> SOLICITING, WE HAVE A GOOD EMAIL LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED. SO WE CAN DO TARGETED CORRESPONDENCE THAT SAYS, DON'T FORGET, THERE IS A NIGHT WHEN YOUR INPUT IS APPRECIATED. >> >> WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON A STARTING THESE MEETINGS ? >> TOMORROW . >> ORIGINALLY , IT WAS TOMORROW. [01:40:04] WE LOOKED AT THE STAKEHOLDERS , WE HAVE SIGNED THE CONTRACTS AND ARE READY TO GO. I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD GET IT DONE BEFORE OCTOBER 28. >> IF WE COULD TARGET NOVEMBER 11TH . >> IF WE GET THE CONSULTANT A HEADS UP, THEY SHOULD BE FINE. >> I AM MORE CONCERNED WITH GETTING THE RIGHT THAN GETTING IT FAST. WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYBODY ? NO ACTION ON THAT ONE. I WILL YIELD THE MEETING TO MAYOR PRO TEM TO HANDLE 2025-340 AND TAKE US TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AS WELL. >> WILL I HAVE TO MOVE DOWN [2025-340 Consider and act upon a resolution authorizing a grant in the amount of $200,000 by the Midlothian Community Development Corporation (MCDC) to Harvest Hill Church for the costs associated with constructing an outdoor recreation area] THERE TO START THE VOTE ? >> ITEM, >> THE GRANT REQUEST TO HARVEST TILL, FOR A MULTIPURPOSE RECREATION FACILITY THAT WE ARE OPENING TO THE PUBLIC, BASKETBALL COURT, VOLLEYBALL , TWO DEDICATED PICKLE BALL COURTS, THERE ARE NO DEDICATED PICKLE BALL COURTS IN THE CITY. EXPAND RECREATIONAL ACCESS -- THIS DOES ALIGN WITH CITY COUNCIL'S MISSION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES SIX GUIDING PRINCIPLE ANALYTE WITH THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN. MCDC DID SEE THIS AS A VALUABLE PROJECT WHICH WOULD EXPAND PARK SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS . I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE GRANTEE IS HERE. >> WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES, 6-0. THANK YOU. I [EXECUTIVE SESSION] DO NOT HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION LANGUAGE. >> THE CITY COUNCIL WILL COULD BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SESSION ITEMS -- ALL ACTION IS TAKEN AND REPOSSESSION, SESSION -- GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR SECTION 551.072, REAL ESTATE DELIBERATION. IS THAT THE ONLY ONE? SECTION 551.074, PERSONAL MATTERS . IT IS NOW >> IT IS A: 59 AND WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE IS ACTION TO BE TAKEN THIS EVENING. ON ITEM NUMBER 2, REAL ESTATE, PURCHASE EXCHANGE , LEASE OR PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS . TWO MOTIONS . I WILL CITY MANAGER AUTHORIZED TO ASK YOUR AGREEMENT SHALLOWO CREEK ESTATES PHASE 4 CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN COUNTY, TEXAS, FOR A PURCHASE PRICE OF $40,000 IN ASSOCIATION WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADWAY ROAD PROJECT PLUS PAYMENT OF [01:45:03] ALL RELATED CLOSING COSTS. THE CITY MANAGER IS FURTHER AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY CLOSING DOCUMENTS AS REQUIRED BY SUCH AGREEMENT AND THE TITLE COMPANY IS NECESSARY TO CLOSE THIS TRANSACTION. >> GOT IT. THAT'S A MOTION MADE BY WEAVER SECONDED BY MORMON. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0. ROSS, YOUR SECOND MOTION INVOLVING REAL ESTATE. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE CITY MANAGER BE AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT BETWEEN JOSEPH M. AND GAYLE H. BETSAL TO PURCHASE A 0. 27 ACRE TRACK FOR RIGHT-OF- WAY OUT OF THE GRANDVILLE KIRK SURVEY IN ASSOCIATION WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE MOCKINGBIRD LANE ROADWAY PROJECT FOR A PURCHASE PRICE OF $50,000, SAID PURCHASE PRICE TO INCLUDE THE COST OF REPLACEMENT FENCING PLUS PAYMENT OF ALL RELATED CLOSING COSTS. THE CITY MANAGER IS FURTHER AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY SUCH DOCUMENTS AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY SUCH AGREEMENT AND THE TITLE COMPANY TO CLOSE THIS TRANSACTION. >> SECOND. >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MOORMAN, PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0. THANK YOU, ROSS. THERETHREE ACTIONABLE ITEMS. >> I MOVE TO INCREASE THE COMPENSATION FOR MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE BY 4%. >> MOTION MADE. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MOTION MADE BY PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MOORMAN. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0. AND OUR FINAL ACTIONABLE ITEM TONIGHT FROM MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MOTION TO INCREASE THE ANNUAL COMPENSATION OF THE CITY SECRETARY AS FOLLOWS. 2% INCREASE BASED ON THE COMPENSATION STUDY AND 4% FOR A TOTAL OF 6%. >> MOTION MADE BY THE PRO TEM. CAN YOU RESET THE VOTE, TAMMY? MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM WHIT CALIFORNIA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN RODGERS. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.