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WE HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL PRESENT, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THEIR WAY.
THEY'RE JUST RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE. SO WE'LL BE EXCITED TO SEE THEM WHEN THEY GET HERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS BEFORE WE START.
FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEM THAT'S LISTED, PLEASE FILL OUT THE FORM AND TURN IT IN WITH THAT GENTLEMAN DID JUST NOW TO THE CITY SECRETARY, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN BE HEARD THIS EVENING.
SECONDLY, WE ARE EXPECTING WHETHER THE FORMS ARE OUT IN THE FOYER, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO ASK. WE'RE ONLINE FORM SUBMITTED AS WELL.
YES. OKAY. WE DO HAVE ONLINE FORMS SUBMITTED.
WE'RE EXPECTING A BIT OF WEATHER TO COME IN THIS EVENING.
IN THE HIGHLY UNLIKELY CASE THAT IT IMPACTS US AT A DRAMATIC LEVEL.
WE WILL HEAR SOME SIRENS AND WE'LL HUNKER DOWN IN PLACE IN THIS ROOM BECAUSE IT'S AN INTERIOR BUILDING AWAY FROM WINDOWS. SO DON'T EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN.
BUT JUST IN CASE I THOUGHT I SHOULD MENTION IT.
WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS EVENING WITH INVOCATION OF PLEDGES LED THIS EVENING BY COUNCILMAN MIKE ROGERS.
THANK YOU. LET'S JOIN ME AS WE PRAY.
DEAR LORD, WE'RE BLESSED TO BE HERE TONIGHT AS A COMMUNITY, AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE PLACE IN THIS LOCAL MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, AS WE DO AS A COMMUNITY.
WE ASK, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS OUR COUNTRY DURING THIS TIME INTERNATIONALLY AND BOTH IN THE US ITSELF.
BLESS US IN ALL WE DO, AND HELP US TO ALWAYS BE USING OUR SERVICES AND OUR ABILITIES AND WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND BEST FOR YOU.
WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS ALL THOSE INVOLVED IN OUR SAFETY SERVICES BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AS THEY GO THE EXTRA MILE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL TAKEN CARE OF.
AND TONIGHT WOULD BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS TO COME IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS, THAT WE HAVE THESE FOLKS THAT WE CAN DEPEND ON 365 DAYS A YEAR AROUND THE CLOCK.
BLESS US TONIGHT DURING THE WEATHER, LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS NOT ONLY OUR TOWN, BUT ACROSS OUR STATE AND GREAT NATION AS.
AS THESE WEATHER EVENTS TAKE PLACE, WE BLESS THAT YOU.
WE DO NEED THE RAIN, BUT WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS US DURING THIS TIME OF POTENTIAL WORSHIP WEATHER LORD, WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S ALWAYS FOLKS AS THERE ARE HERE TONIGHT, THAT HAVE INTEREST AND CONCERNS.
AND AS OUR COMMUNITY GROWS, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS COUNCIL AND INFLUENCE THIS COUNCIL THROUGH YOUR SPIRIT IN WAYS THAT WE WOULD LEAD AND ALWAYS THE BEST LEADS AND WAYS OF THE COMMUNITY AND BLESS US HOME SAFELY.
AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[2026-116 Announcements/Presentations]
OUR FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS 2026 116 ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS.WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A NATIONAL TENNIS MONTH PROCLAMATION.
SO IF THE TENNIS FOLKS WOULD COME FORWARD AND MEET ME UP HERE. ARE YOU DOING OKAY? MY NAME IS LINDA STUMPF, AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MIDLOTHIAN TENNIS ASSOCIATION. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT A GREAT COMMUNITY THIS IS.
TO BE A PART OF OUR MISSION IS TO HELP MAKE THIS COMMUNITY HEALTHY, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND SOCIALLY, WITH RELATIONSHIPS THROUGH THE GAME OF TENNIS. AND WE JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT.
DITTO. TENNIS IS A VERY FUN SPORT.
I'M TERRIBLE AT IT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROCLAMATION AND TENNIS MONTH IN ANY WAY. ON MAY 21ST, 1881, THE USTA, OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS THE UNITED STATES NATIONAL LAWN TENNIS ASSOCIATION, WAS FOUNDED IN NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK, TO CREATE RULES AND STANDARDS FOR THE EMERGING GAME OF LAWN TENNIS.
AND WHEREAS THE USTA IS A NONPROFIT NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY FOR TENNIS IN THE UNITED STATES, WITH OVER 550,000 MEMBERS AND LEADS THE PROMOTION AND GROWTH OF THE SPORT AT EVERY LEVEL OF PLAY, FROM BEGINNER TO PROFESSIONALS AT THE US OPEN.
AND WHEREAS, THE USTA PROUDLY PARTNERS WITH LOCAL TENNIS PROGRAMS TO SHOWCASE THE IMPORTANT HEALTH, SOCIAL AND EDUCATIONAL BENEFITS OF TENNIS AND TO MAKE THE SPORT AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF AGE, ENVIRONMENT, CONDITION OR ABILITY. THROUGHOUT THE USTA ADAPTIVE GRANTS AND WHEREAS, THE LATEST RESEARCH SHOW THAT MORE THAN 27.3 MILLION AMERICANS PLAYED TENNIS IN 2025, AN UNPRECEDENTED 6.2% INCREASE IN PARTICIPATION OVER 2024 AND THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF PLAYERS SINCE THE STUDY BEGAN BACK IN 2007.
WHEREAS, BY INCREASING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF TENNIS FOR CITIZENS OF MIDLOTHIAN,
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THE USTA HAS CONTRIBUTED TO MAKING OUR COMMUNITY HAPPIER AND HEALTHIER.AND WHEREAS USTA HAS DECLARED THE MONTH OF MAY AS NATIONAL TENNIS MONTH TO ENCOURAGE THE PROMOTION OF LOCAL PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES AT THE PARKS AND FACILITIES TO SHOWCASE TENNIS AND SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE SPORT AND ITS BENEFIT.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, JUSTIN KAUFMAN, MAYOR FOR THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2026 AS NATIONAL TENNIS MONTH IN MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. SIGNED AND SEALED ON THIS DAY, APRIL THE 28TH, 2026.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS.
B CITY COUNCIL TO REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST COUNCIL.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ANYTHING THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT FIRST SPONSORED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS SUCCESSFULLY DREW THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER YET OF PEOPLE TO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.
I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR FIRST RESPONDERS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT. AND THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, OBVIOUSLY, WITH BLOCKING STREETS AND PROVIDING A SAFE ATMOSPHERE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO GET OUT AND VOTE.
ELECTION DAY IS ON SATURDAY, SO PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE 7 TO 7.
AND THEN FINALLY, MY LAST THING IS I WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO JOIN US FOR A RECEPTION IN HONOR OF OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS MOORMAN AND ROGERS AND INCOMING COUNCIL MEMBERS RIJINO AND CHESHIRE ON MAY THE 12TH.
THAT RECEPTION WILL TAKE PLACE HERE AT CITY HALL IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM.
TUESDAY, MAY THE 12TH AT 5 P.M..
AND SO PLEASE JOIN US. AND THEN WE'LL SWEAR IN PROMPTLY AT 6 P.M.
RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM. SO WITH THAT, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD? I FEEL LIKE I'M THE ONLY ONE TALKING TONIGHT. I DOUBT IT'LL STAY THAT WAY.
I'M JUST SHOCKED YOU WEREN'T LIT UP.
[2026-117 Citizens to be heard]
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO LET'S SEE.CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. 2026 117 CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC THAT'S NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION FORM PRESENTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? DEBORAH MARQUARDT.
MR.. MARQUARDT, IF YOU COME FORWARD AND THEN TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON THERE, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. DEBORAH MARQUARDT AND YES, I DO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO I WAS HERE BEFORE YOU GUYS LAST COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING THE PARKING OF THE SEMIS ON A PUBLIC STREET. JADA'S SOLAR PILE THING.
NOTHING WAS DONE. I ALSO FILED IN A VIOLATION ONLINE AND NOTHING WAS DONE THERE.
I MEAN, OUR GOOD TAXPAYER MONEY PAID FOR THIS BLACKTOP ROAD, AND NOW THEY'RE PARKING ON THE SHOULDER, RUNNING UP THE DITCHES AND EVERYTHING.
HERE'S THIS GUY. HE'S GOT ALL THIS STUFF IN THE MIDDLE.
HE WANTS ME TO DRIVE OVER ALL HIS BANDING THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE.
THIS IS A PUBLIC STREET, NOT A LOADING AND AND STAGING AREA.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS ALL THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AMAZON WASN'T IN THERE. SO THERE WAS NO PARKING ON THE STREET.
AND LIKE ON 20 THAT AMAZON HUB.
I MEAN, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS HAS TURNED OUT TO BE SOUTH WIDE.
HERE AGAIN ON 427, I JUST CAME BACK FROM TULSA.
I COULDN'T, I CAN'T COME DOWN WYATT STREET BECAUSE I CAN'T THE WAY YOU MADE THE NEW ROADS, I CAN'T MAKE THAT TURN TO COME DOWN TO MY ROAD.
I HAVE TO USE SOUTH WYATT TO GET TO MY HOUSE.
I COULDN'T EVEN GET TO MY HOUSE YESTERDAY MORNING BECAUSE SEMIS.
THERE WERE EIGHT SEMIS PARKED ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S ONLY IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD.
I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF SOMEBODY'S COMING DOWN THE OTHER WAY. YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT. THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.
I DID HAVE TO GO JUMP THE CURB TO GO BACK AROUND DOWN MILLER MAKING YOU COME DOWN WARD ROAD. TRY AND TRY TO COME DOWN THAT WAY.
AND I HAD TO CUT OVER THE CURB TO GET MY RV BACK IN MY YARD AGAIN.
I MEAN, HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE WHERE THEY'RE STAGING RIGHT TO THE EDGE OF HIGHWAY 67.
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NOTHING'S BEING DONE ABOUT THIS.I MEAN, HERE'S SOME MORE RUTTING UP ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD.
I DO HAVE TO SAY, THOUGH, TODAY WHEN I DID COME BACK ABOUT NOONTIME, I LEFT ABOUT 1030. THEY WERE ALL STAGED AGAIN IN THE ROAD.
AND WHEN I DID COME BACK AT 12, I DO HAVE TO GIVE SOMEBODY CREDIT.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THERE A SQUAD CAR, AND THEY DID FIND ROOM IN THEIR YARD FOR THE STAGING OF THEIR SEMIS.
I MEAN, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAGING HERE, THEY'VE GOT THE PLANT ACROSS THE STREET WITH A LOT OF PARKING WHERE IF THEY'RE OVERFLOWED, THEY CAN USE SOME OF THEIR OWN LAND AND NOT OUR PUBLIC ROAD.
SO I WANT TO SUBMIT THIS AS EVIDENCE AGAIN, BECAUSE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS BLACKTOP ROAD, I WANT THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING IT BECAUSE IT TOOK US 30 YEARS TO GET THIS TWO INCH BLACKTOP ROAD.
AND FOR IT TO BE ALL TORN UP WITHIN THREE MONTHS IS RIDICULOUS WITH THESE SEMIS.
I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING BESIDES USING OUR PUBLIC ROAD FOR STAGING ALL THEIR SEMIS AND STRAPPING THEIR LOADS DOWN.
THANK YOU. MA'AM, IF YOU COULD GIVE THEM TO CLYDE OR DORY OVER HERE.
TAMMY, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY. NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON ON CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS TONIGHT OUT OF ORDER, SO BEAR WITH ME.
[2026-132 Receive an update from the Historic Advisory Board Museum Subcommittee on the status of the Midlothian Historical Museum project.]
WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD MUSEUM SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE STATUS OF THE MIDLOTHIAN HISTORICAL MUSEUM PROJECT PROJECT.THIS IS 2026 132. MISS WICKLIFFE, MISS PEGRAM, IF YOU COME FORWARD. COUNCIL, THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL THIS EVENING AND GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO ASK Q AND A, AND THEN NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.
JAMIE MAYOR THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR MOVING US UP AS WELL.
WE KNOW YOU'VE GOT A PACKED AGENDA.
WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A BUSY SEASON.
SO I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF, BUT WE WANT TO BRING YOU AN UPDATE AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO WHILE WE HAVE A SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S BEEN WALKING THE PATHWAY WITH US FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO HONOR AND APPRECIATE MR. ROGERS SUPPORT AND HIS CONSTANT ATTENDANCE AS WE TRY AND MOVE A MUSEUM FOR MIDLOTHIAN FORWARD, AND WE WANTED TO HAVE HIS VOICE AT THE TABLE AS WE GAVE YOU YOUR LAST UPDATE.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
TONIGHT, THE MUSEUM SUBCOMMITTEE WAS ASKED TO JOIN YOU TONIGHT TO GENERALLY GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND AGAIN TO THANK MIKE.
WE SINCE WE'VE LAST REPORTED TO YOU, WE'VE CREATED A STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE HAVE CREATED A COLLECTIONS POLICY.
WE HAVE CREATED LOAN AGREEMENTS FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMANENT OF THE MUSEUM. AND WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST TONIGHT THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER WHATEVER AUTHORITY WE NEED TO FINALIZE BUILDING PLANS TO SECURE COMMITMENT OF THE FIRE HALL AND TO SUBMIT A $200,000 START UP REQUEST FOR YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE KNOW YOU ALL ARE IN A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS, AND THAT WE NEED TO START TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS.
WE'VE PULLED SOME OF THOSE TOGETHER, AND WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE ON YOUR RADAR SCREEN. WE'RE HAPPY TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS FOR YOU TONIGHT.
WE KNOW TONIGHT'S NOT A DECISION MAKING NIGHT FOR YOU, BUT WE DO WANT TO GIVE YOU ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE FOR US AND ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN BACKFILL FOR YOU.
THANK YOU. JAMIE. COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF JAMIE REGARDING THE MUSEUM.
SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD, MIKE? MINE IS DIRECTED TOWARDS STAFF.
ONE. WELL, HOW DO WE GET THE MUSEUM? A LINE ITEM SECTION OF THE BUDGET AND ALL STRATEGIC PLANS MOVING FORWARD? SO I THINK IF YOU LOOK IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE PUT IN THE WE'VE ADDED THE HOTEL MOTEL MONEY AND I BELIEVE THERE'S 250,000 IN THERE AS A PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW.
NOW, THAT DOES INCLUDE CVB AND WE'LL GET THROUGH ALL THAT IN THE BUDGET.
BUT WE WE HAVE STARTED TO PUT THAT IN IN THIS CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
OKAY. AND SO AND I KNOW IT'S NOT STAFF, IT'S DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
DOES COUNCIL NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION FOR THE MUSEUM TO HAVE ITS OWN LINE ITEM IN ALL BUDGETS FROM HERE MOVING FORWARD.
YEAH. AND AGAIN, IF IT'S MORE THAN THE WE CAN DELINEATE IT IN THE HOTEL MOTEL FUND, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU CHOOSE TO FUND IT. AND THEN IF THERE'S OTHER FUNDING OUTSIDE OF THE HOTEL MOTEL THAT YOU WANT.
YES. WE'LL NEED THAT DIRECTION. OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO GET THE BUDGET, THIS ISN'T A ONE TIME.
HERE'S 200,000. LIKE, I THINK STAFF AND COUNCIL SHOULD PROBABLY WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS AN ONGOING NUMBER TO OPERATE A MUSEUM AND DEDICATE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET FOR 2027.
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AND WE BASICALLY TOOK THAT IN.THAT 250 CAME FROM BASICALLY BALANCING WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE IN THE HOTEL MOTEL WITH THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, MINUS SOME OF THE SMALLER ITEMS THAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY DONE IN THE HOTEL MOTEL.
AND THEN WE PUT THAT THE, THE DELTA OF THAT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.
SO ASSUMING OF THE THREE STEPS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE 200,000, THE BUILDING PLANS, MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD, ASSUMING THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE 200,000 IS KIND OF STEP ONE IN THOSE ITEMS, I'M GUESSING IN ORDER TO PUSH EVERYTHING FORWARD, IS THAT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION? LIKE WE WOULDN'T ARE WE GOING TO APPROVE BUILDING PLANS OR MOVE THAT PART FORWARD IF WE DON'T KNOW THE FUNDING MECHANISM? WELL, KEEP IN MIND WE'VE ALREADY THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THROUGH THE MCDC, A $500,000 REMODEL OF THAT BUILDING.
SO AS FAR AS THAT THE DESIGN OF THAT IS BEING DONE NOW SO THAT THE BUILDING PART SHOULD BE COMPLETE. THAT'S MOVING.
YES. AND SO I GUESS SO THE NEXT STEPS, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR US IS MAINLY WHAT I'M WONDERING. WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE I MEAN WE NEED TO GET THE BUILDING PLANS DONE.
AND I THINK THE H A, B WILL BE PART OF THAT IN THE MUSEUM COMMITTEE.
AND THEN AS WE GET INTO THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WITH FINALIZING THAT, FINALIZING IN THIS CASE THE 200,000 FINALIZING THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S GREAT. MIKE, JUST TO CONFIRM.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT HAS BEEN A JOY TO DEAL WITH THE H THE HISTORICAL BOARD.
THEY HAVE MADE MY LIFE TREMENDOUSLY EASY.
THEY HAVE BEEN FULL OF WISDOM AND VERY MEASURED IN ALL OF THEIR RESPONSES AND THEIR DESIRES. I KNOW THAT I KNOW MOST OF THESE FOLKS PERSONALLY, AND NOT ALL, BUT MOST.
AND THESE ARE REALLY WONDERFUL.
MIDLOTHIAN LONG TERM, MULTI-GENERATIONAL RESIDENTS THAT HAVE.
HAD A STRONG HEART AND DESIRE TO TRY TO REACH THIS POINT FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. WE HAVE SO MUCH HISTORY HERE AND THESE FOLKS ARE JUST JUMPING WITH JOY TO BE ABLE TO LET OTHERS EXPERIENCE THAT.
AS THE PARK COMES ABOUT AND WE HAVE A, HOPEFULLY A VISITOR'S CENTER IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND THAT WILL LEAD RIGHT INTO THE MUSEUM ITSELF AND THE POTENTIAL OF EXHIBITS, SMALLER EXHIBITS, MAYBE BEING EVEN IN THE LIBRARY AREA, IN THE FOYER HERE IN THE CITY HALL.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY FIRST CLASS FACILITY.
IT WILL TAKE QUITE A WHILE, A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET IT COMPLETED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
WE SHOULD BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE CHRIS, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED IT A MINUTE AGO AND I MISSED IT. I DID HEAR CLARK ASK ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET AND MAKING SURE WE HAD A LINE ITEM SOUNDED LIKE FOR LONGER TERM IN THE BUDGET.
AND I HEARD MENTION OF STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE HISTORICAL BOARD.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR FUNDING IS PART OF OUR LONG TERM CITY STRATEGIC PLAN.
ALSO, MINIMALLY, FIVE YEARS OR MORE OR WHATEVER WE COULD DO.
YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN HERE. SO THIS IS OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE.
AND WE PUT, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST A PLACEHOLDER AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO GO, BUT WE'VE GOT 250,000 BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY THE AVAILABLE MONEY WE HAD IN THE HOTEL MOTEL FUND ESTIMATE.
NOW THAT WAS FOR MUSEUM AND CVB BECAUSE WE'VE GOT BOTH THINGS GOING.
SO, I MEAN, I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH MONEY AND THERE MAY NEED TO BE FUNDING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT IT IS IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN RIGHT NOW TO BEGIN THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AND WHAT THE FINAL BUDGET IS.
EXCUSE ME, WE'LL HAVE THAT MONEY EARMARKED IN THE HOT TAX MONEY.
SO IT'S SITTING ON THE TOP AND WE DON'T GET SHORT LATER ON AS FAR AS AT LEAST THE INITIAL REQUEST. ONCE THE FINAL BUDGET IS DECIDED ON THE HOTEL MOTEL, IT WOULD BE ITS OWN LINE ITEM.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW TOO, WE'VE HEARD YOU, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT ALL POTENTIAL ITEMS OF FUNDING.
SO, MR. WEAVER, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT GRANTS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS, TOO.
BUT WE DO NEED UNDERPINNING, RIGHT? IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED UNDERPINNING.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE PROVIDED FOR US AND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MIDLOTHIAN AND OUR LONG HERITAGE AND FUTURE GENERATIONS TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE HISTORY. SO WE'RE WORKING HARD TO BE SURE WE MAKE YOU PROUD.
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I'LL GO FROM THE END BACK THIS WAY.OKAY. I JUST HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET AND WILL NEED TO BE MADE. HAVE WE DETERMINED OR WILL WE BE? ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DETERMINING THE THE ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSIBILITIES.
I'VE HEARD FROM CITIZENS ASKING THE QUESTION, IS THIS GOING TO BE WITH LIKE LIBRARY BOARD? IT'S GOING TO BE WITH PARKS AND RECREATION.
WHAT ABOUT ARCHIVAL STORAGE? IS THERE GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH FOR FOR ARCHIVAL STORAGE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS? AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED. BUT THAT GOES TO KIND OF THE QUESTION OF BUDGET, EVEN EVEN BUDGETING THINGS OF WHERE THOSE THINGS WOULD GO IN. HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS FROM YOUR SIDE? WE CERTAINLY HAVE. WE FEEL LIKE THAT WE ARE ALIGNED BETTER WITH MAYBE THE LIBRARY AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT OF COURSE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S ALSO YOUR DECISION.
WE WOULD RATHER WE THINK THAT THE PARKS AND REC IS CUT A LOT GOING ON, AND WE JUST DON'T FIT QUITE AS WELL THERE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENT.
YES, YOU'VE BEEN PROBABLY PART OF OR AT LEAST I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE GOT OUR ARMS AROUND SOME IDEAS INITIALLY AND THEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE LONG TERM IN TERMS OF YOUR STORAGE.
DO CITIES EVER HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE FOR ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE? NO. DO WE NEED TO TRY AND FIGURE SOME OF IT OUT? YES. AND I'M TELLING YOU, EVEN AT THE LEVEL OF PERSONALLY INVESTING, WE'VE GOT SOME BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE BOUGHT THE MATERIALS TO BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME OF THEM. BUT WE ARE GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PART OF THE LONGER TERM PLAN.
AND WE DON'T REALLY EXPECT TO BE A MUSEUM THAT HAS A GYMNASIUM FULL OF ARCHIVED DOCUMENTS AND WHATNOT.
RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND BE LESS OF A HOLDING MUSEUM AND MORE OF A ROTATIONAL AND, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING OTHER RESOURCES.
BUT BUT BEING SURE THAT WE CAPTURE WHAT WE NEED TO AND PROTECT THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT WE DO NEED TO PROTECT. AND IF I MAY, WORKING WITH PREPARING THE COLLECTIONS POLICY, WE DID SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TAILORING THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT.
WE ARE NOT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A A PERMANENT DEPOSITORY DEPOSITORY, BUT WE DID TWEAK THE LANGUAGE SO THAT IF THERE IS SOME EXTRAORDINARY ARTIFACT OR ICON, WE CAN ACQUIRE IT. IF IF THE H A, B RECOMMENDS TO THE CITY THAT WE KEEP IT.
BUT IT WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARY.
SO THAT WAS THAT'S THAT WAS OUR OUR GOAL IN DRAFTING THE COLLECTIONS POLICY.
ROSS. NO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR.
I KNOW YOU'LL PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE WHERE WE CAME FROM, EVEN AS WE MAKE DECISIONS UP HERE ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED. I DO REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, EXPLORING THE GRANTS AND OTHER ALTERNATIVE FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT CAN HELP TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE MUSEUM MORE THAN IT WOULD BE OTHERWISE.
AND I JUST WANT TO ENSURE FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING CONVERSATION AND THE BUDGET CONVERSATION THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS DOCUMENTATION AND BREAKDOWNS, AS FAR AS FUNDS NEEDS AND VELOCITY OF THOSE FUNDS, YOU KNOW, HAVE WE RECEIVED THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OR ARE WE STILL WORKING ON PUTTING THAT TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN MAKE CLEAR AND INFORMED DECISIONS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS? I THINK THERE WAS SOME INITIAL PROVIDED BY THE CONSULTANT ON WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO WE'VE GOT SOME BREAKDOWN.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE FINAL BREAKDOWN.
THAT'S TRUE. WE HAVE A BARE BONES IS WHAT I WOULD CALL IT. ROSS.
AND IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
BUT THERE AGAIN, WE DON'T REALLY THERE ARE SOME COMPONENTS, AS YOU ALL LOOK AT BUDGET AND AS WE LOOK AT BUDGET, THAT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT AMONGST OURSELVES.
RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. AND SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLASSIFY SOME OF THOSE RIGHT THIS MINUTE.
BUT I DO THINK WE'VE GIVEN YOU A FRAMEWORK TO WORK WITHIN, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO BACKFILL THAT AS WE GAIN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IF WE GET INTO A BUDGET PROCESS AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT ANY OF THAT, PLEASE CALL US OR LET US PRESENT TO YOU.
WE HAVE DONE PRETTY DEEP DIVES ON WELL, MY NOTEBOOK IS FULL OF A BUNCH OF OTHER MUSEUMS AND THE WAY THEY OPERATE, SO WE WOULD WANT TO TALK TO YOU AS WE ALL TRY AND FIND THE BEST LONG TERM SOLUTION FOR THE MUSEUM.
BACK TO STAFF. AND ANNA ASKED IT, BUT I MIGHT CHANGE THE WAY I'M GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION. YOU SAID THE BUILDING PARTS ALREADY FIGURED OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT
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THE B BOARD ESSENTIALLY FUNDING THE REMODEL.BUT LIKE FOR AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IT'S WITH, IF IT'S WITH OURSELVES OR THE BOARD, BUT LIKE, IS THERE A LEASE? IS THERE AN AGREEMENT? IS THERE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT FIRST FLOOR IS A MUSEUM? PERIOD. END OF STORY. IS THERE A VOTE? I MEAN, WE APPROVED A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH CD FOR THE CD.
YEAH, WITH CD, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS MUSEUM AS A PART OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN.
SO REALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT BECOMES A DEPARTMENT OR THAT, BUT WE DO THINK THIS WILL BE UNDER THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HISTORICAL I'M SORRY, MIDLOTHIAN HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE AN ARM. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE A FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITY WITH THEM.
BUT THIS MUSEUM WILL BE A DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN IS WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING.
SO WITH THAT, THERE REALLY WOULDN'T NEED TO BE A LEASE.
NO, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST LIKE, IS IT DIRECTION? IS IT A VOTE? LIKE WHAT? FORMALIZES LIKE THAT IS PROBABLY COMING THROUGH THE BUDGET.
THAT IS THE INTENT. I WOULD THINK THROUGH THE PERIOD, I WOULD THINK THROUGH THE BUDGET, AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CONSULTANT ABOUT REDOING THAT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AS WELL AS OUR ARCHITECT.
AND REALLY, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO A BLANK SLATE IN THE BOTTOM WITH A LITTLE BIT OF STORAGE AREA DOWN THERE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT.
OKAY. AND THEN, I MEAN, YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT DEPARTMENT THIS FALLS UNDER.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF IS STILL FIGURING THAT OUT.
YES, SIR. OKAY. I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE IN AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN PHASE WITH THAT BUILDING, AND MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE A SAY, BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO SIT AT THE TABLE AT SOME POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT WOULD LAY OUT AND USE UTILIZE THE SPACE IN THE IN THE BEST WAY.
SO AT YOUR DISCRETION, I DON'T THINK WE'VE BEEN PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS YET. OH, YEAH.
I MEAN, I GUESS THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
AND I GUESS YOU SHOULDN'T ASSUME, BUT I JUST ASSUMED WHEN WE APPROVED THE CBD OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED THAT, THAT Y'ALL WERE ALREADY TALKING TO THEM ABOUT LAYOUT ON THE FLOOR. I THOUGHT THE REMODEL WAS FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING.
IT IS. YEAH. AND WE DIDN'T, BUT WE ARE.
I MEAN, WE JUST SIGNED THE CONTRACT WITH IT FOR THE DESIGN BUILD TWO WEEKS AGO, FOUR WEEKS AGO. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
SO WE HAVE NOT MOVED BEYOND THAT.
SO IS THERE GOING TO BE LIKE A I'M ASSUMING LIKE A STAKEHOLDER? WE I MEAN, WE MET WITH MC D SO OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE TO MEET WITH HIV.
OKAY, I'M JUST MAKING SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.
AND THEN I THINK I MAY BE MISREMEMBERING, BUT WHEN WE APPROVED THE MC D FUNDS, I THOUGHT THAT THE BOTTOM FLOOR WAS GOING TO BE MORE SHELLED OUT AND LEFT AS A FLEX SPACE FOR THE. YEAH, BUT I THINK YOU CAN DO A LOT WITH THAT.
OKAY. I MEAN, SHELLED OUT IS KIND OF A LOOSE TERM, BUT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE H, A, B AND THE ARCHITECT AND REALLY SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SHELLING THAT OUT BY TAKING OUT THE ADDITIONAL OFFICES THAT THEY PUT IN AND HAVING ONE OF THOSE REMAIN AS A STORAGE UNIT.
BUT THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE BARE BONES.
NOW WE START MEETING WITH AHAB AND GO FROM THERE.
PERFECT. OKAY, SO JUST JUST TO DRIVE IT HOME A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT THAT Y'ALL HAVE WORKED A TON.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T JUST LIKE FLOAT BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'VE APPROVED LIKE A STRATEGIC PLAN OR WE HAVEN'T APPROVED A DOCUMENT OR AN MOU OR A ANYTHING THAT OFFICIALLY SAYS, LIKE I'M HEARING US SAY THAT THE NUMBER IN THE BUDGET, WHICH IS ONE LINE ITEM WITH ONE ITEM THAT WILL COME IN JULY AND AUGUST, THAT WILL HELP, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY PUT IN PAPER ON PAPER LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING, RIGHT? AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT CLEAR CLARIFIED ON WHERE WE'RE GOING.
AND WHAT WE CAN DO, DO IS PROVIDE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE H, A, B, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE ON TO, TO JAMIE'S POINT ABOUT JUST HOW MUCH WORK THE STRATEGIC PLAN, COLLECTIONS POLICY, ETC., THAT WE CAN GET YOU.
YOUR STRATEGIC. OUR STRATEGIC PLAN SHOULD LAY IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, AND YOU SHOULD BE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE THINKING MATCHES WHAT YOUR DESIRES ARE.
SO FOR SURE. AND IT'S FOLDING INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND AS THE YEARS GO BY THAT WE'RE ALL OF A SUDDEN NOT LIKE, WELL, WHAT WAS THAT? AND THEY CHANGE IT. SO YEAH, FOR SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU JUSTIN. I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING US UP. AND I'M MEANT TO BE FAST, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
IT WAS OUR FAULT. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL GOOD DIALOG.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA 2026 118.ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND ENACTED BY ONE MOTION WITHOUT SEPARATE DISCUSSION.
IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM CAN BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS FROM CONSENT THIS EVENING. SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON APPROVING CONSENT MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MORMON.
PLEASE VOTE. CONSENT AGENDA PASSES 7 TO 0.
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BACK TO SKIPPING AROUND.[2026-122 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for Group Home Use in an Agricultural (A) District relating to the use and development of Lot 5, Blue Grass Estates, located at 3220 Starwashed Drive (SUP01- 2026-003).]
COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO GO TO ITEM 122 WHICH IS THE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A GROUP HOME AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT RELATING TO THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF LOT FIVE BLUEGRASS ESTATES, LOCATED AT 3220 STAR DRIVE, COUNCIL.THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED TO A LATER DATE.
HOWEVER, IT'S UP TO US SHOULD WE DECIDE TO DO THAT.
I'M SURE THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO SEE THAT CASE BY SHOW OF HANDS.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO, FIRST OF ALL, JUST BRING UP THE DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL HEAR THIS CASE TONIGHT.
AND THEN IF WE DO, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MIRIAM. IF WE DO NOT, THEN WE'LL DELAY IT TO A LATER DATE. ALAN, I SEE YOUR MIC ON.
I WOULD SUGGEST HEARING THIS CASE NOW BASED ON THE PARTICIPATION OF THIS MANY FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO HEAR IT TONIGHT. DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT? HANNAH. DO YOU DISAGREE? I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD HEAR A CASE WHEN THE APPLICANT DOESN'T WANT IT HEARD. WHY WE WOULD HEAR A CASE WHEN THE APPLICANT DOESN'T WANT IT HEARD BASED ON IT BEING POSTED IN THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE TO IT.
THE APPLICANT HERE TO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T JUST PUSH IT.
THAT'S THE ARGUMENT TO BE HAD. THAT'S THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE. OKAY. I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? NO SHE'S NOT. I WOULD SAY IT'D BE UNFAIR TO THESE FOLKS WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK ON IT.
IF WE ALLOW THEM TO PUSH IT BECAUSE THEY ALSO SENT THE REQUEST LAST MINUTE.
THAT'S TRUE. HEARING THE PEOPLE SPEAK, I THINK, IS ONE THING, BUT MAKING A DECISION ON.
WE WOULD HEAR THE CASE ALL OR NONE.
YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON IT? DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH ALLEN ON HIS RECOMMENDATION TO HEAR THE CASE.
AND LET'S HEAR THE CASE MIRIAM.
OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW A GROUP HOME AND AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY IS 2.29 ACRES AT 3220 STAR WASH DRIVE.
THE GUIDING OUR FUTURE MIDLOTHIAN 2045 DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MODULE AND IT WHICH IS COMPRISED OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. IT IS ALL ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND IT'S ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND IT'S EITHER RESIDENTIAL, LOW DENSITY MODULE OR A COUNTRY MODULE.
THE APPLICANTS ARE PROPOSING AN EIGHT RESIDENTIAL, EIGHT PERSON RESIDENTIAL GROUP HOME ON THE EXISTING HOME.
THEY ARE GOING TO PROPOSE TWO SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL WITH 24 HOUR CARE FOR THE MENTALLY AND OR PHYSICALLY IMPAIRED, AND A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY FOR THE ELDERLY. THE EXISTING HOME IS 2353FT², AND THEY ARE SHOWING FOUR PARKING SPACES ON THE PROPERTY. THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO CONVERT THE GARAGE THE EXISTING GARAGE WITHOUT A CONSTRUCTION OF A DETACHED GARAGE.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
AND SO AS PART OF THEIR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THEY ARE REVISING THE CITY'S GROUP HOME DEFINITION TO BE A FAMILY BASED FACILITY WHICH CONTAINS NOT MORE THAN EIGHT RESIDENTS AND TWO SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL, AND WHICH PROVIDES 24 HOUR CARE IN A PROTECTED LIVING ARRANGEMENT FOR THE MENTALLY AND OR PHYSICALLY IMPAIRED, AND A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY FOR THE ELDERLY.
THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO SECTION 3.5603.
TO NOT REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION OF A DETACHED GARAGE WITH THE ENCLOSURE OF THE EXISTING ONE CAR GARAGE AND STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT VARIANCE.
REQUEST FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTENCY.
THE DETACHED GARAGE IS RECOMMENDED SHOULD THE EXISTING GARAGE BE ENCLOSED, AND SO THE ZONING HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY AS IT WAS ANNEXED IN NOVEMBER OF 2008.
IT IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FOLLOWING COMP PLAN POLICIES, WHICH IS HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS FOSTER ATTAINABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS FOR RESIDENTS IN ALL STAGES OF LIFE AND WHICH ENHANCE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR AGING IN PLACE.
AND GOAL NUMBER TWO, PROMOTE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ALL RESIDENTS. PROTECT MIDLOTHIAN'S NEIGHBORHOODS BY REQUIRING TRANSITIONAL LOT DESIGN AND WHICH INCLUDES ENSURING THAT ADVERSE IMPACTS FROM ADJACENT USES AND PROPERTIES ARE INTERNALIZED AND DO NOT IMPACT NEARBY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND ENCOURAGE A BALANCE OF
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LAND USES THAT SERVE THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS THROUGH ACCESSIBLE JOBS AND SERVICES.AND SO, 13 POSTCARDS WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE SITE ON MARCH 27TH. ONE SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND NOTICE OF THIS HEARING WAS POSTED IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR ON APRIL 18TH.
WE RECEIVED. WELL. SINCE THEN WE'VE SEEN MULTIPLE MORE EMAILS WITHIN 200FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, MAINLY WITH THE USE AND THE CONCERN WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC AND EMERGENCY SERVICES VEHICLES, IMPACTS ON PROPERTY VALUES, AND JUST THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF WHAT A GROUP HOME WOULD BE.
STAFF DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE GROUP HOME USE WITHIN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, BUT DID NOT SUPPORT THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO ENCLOSE THE GARAGE WITHOUT PROVIDING THE DETACHED GARAGE.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED LAST TUESDAY ON APRIL 21ST TO DENY THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THANK YOU MIRIAM.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST.
I'M SURE WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP.
MARCY MOORMAN. MISS MOORMAN, IF YOU COME FORWARD AND THEN INTRODUCE YOURSELF INTO THE MICROPHONE AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
YES, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.
I AM WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, AND I'M AT 3080 STARR, WASH. SO JUST A FEW HOUSES AWAY FROM THE HOUSE IN QUESTION.
I AM REQUESTING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST FOR THIS LOCATION ON STARR WASH DRIVE FOR UP TO EIGHT ELDERLY RESIDENTS OF A TYPE B STATUS.
I ASK YOU ALL TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE'S 5 TO 0 DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
ONE I'M NOT AGAINST. I THINK OUR ELDERLY NEED PLACES TO BE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HOUSE THEM. I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. MY OPPOSITION IS REALLY JUST FOR THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
FIT, FORM AND FEASIBILITY PERMITS, NOT PERMITS, BUT THE LOCAL. IF YOU LOOK IT UP, THIS HOUSE IS REALLY ONLY TRULY 1375FT².
I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT, SAME HOUSE, BUILT THE SAME YEAR. AND I CAN TELL YOU FITTING EIGHT PEOPLE.
I WOULDN'T EVEN CONSCIOUSLY WANT TO ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION.
JUST DOING DUE DILIGENCE TO OUR ELDERLY AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE DIGNITY OF SPACE.
NOT TO MENTION IN AN EMERGENCY, YOU NEED THE ABILITY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, FULL CAPABILITY OF LOGISTICS, MOBILITY, THE HALLWAYS, THE ROOMS IN THESE HOUSES ARE SMALL.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FIT EIGHT PEOPLE IN.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, THE APPLICANT HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TYPE A AND TYPE B. AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT OPERATIONALIZING THIS TYPE OF ENDEAVOR HASN'T BEEN FULLY THOUGHT THROUGH. SO MY CONCERN IS ALSO FOR IS FOR THE RESIDENTIALS.
IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE SERVED THE BEST THAT THEY COULD BE SERVED IN THIS LOCATION BY THIS APPLICANT.
AND IN THIS HOME THE AREA THAT WE'RE IN IS OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS. LIMITED MOBILITY FOR THE ELDERLY.
WE'RE ON THE OLDER SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, OUR SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE THE ORIGINAL.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOMES THAT ARE MEANT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN YOU PUT EIGHT ELDERLY IN UP TO EIGHT ELDERLY IN.
AND THEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE LINENS, THE CLEANING, THE EATING, THE BIOLOGICAL.
IT'S JUST IT'S NOT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.
IT'S NOT VIABLE. SO I'M VERY SURPRISED THAT THIS TYPE OF THAT THESE TYPE OF REQUESTS ARE COMING UP. THERE WERE THREE IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, FIRST THREE AND I GUESS I GUESS OVER TEN YEARS JUST TO POP UP.
AND SO I AM CONCERNED THAT THE PRECEDENT THIS MIGHT TAKE IF WE APPROVE LOTS, LOTS FOR RESIDENTIAL TYPE HOMES AND LITTLE NICHE NEIGHBORHOODS, JUST KIND OF WHAT THAT STANDS FOR.
AND I THINK I'M OUT OF TIME. SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, JEFF YARBROUGH.
MR. YARBROUGH, IF YOU COME FORWARD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF IN THE MICROPHONE AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JEFF YARBOROUGH AND I LIVE AT 3240 STAR WASH.
I'M TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE HOUSE IN QUESTION.
I AM OPPOSED TO THIS FOR A FEW REASONS.
ONE IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
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AS SHE MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE CITY SIDEWALKS.WE DON'T HAVE CURBS, WHICH ALSO MEANS WE DON'T HAVE PARKING OUT.
IT'S A FAMILY FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I TOO MY FATHER SUFFERED WITH ALZHEIMER'S.
AND SO I'M VERY CONSCIOUS OF WHAT THAT PROCESS IS.
MY MOTHER KEPT HIM AT HOME DURING HIS TEN YEARS BATTLE WITH WITH ALZHEIMER'S.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S, IT'S AN ALL CONSUMING THING.
SO TO FIT EIGHT PEOPLE, AND IT IS A 1300 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, NOT 2300. THE PORCH DOES NOT COUNT UNLESS SHE'S PAYING TAXES ON IT.
MAYBE Y'ALL SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE SHE'S NOT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A LOT MORE ACTIVITY.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR LIVING.
AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DELIVERIES OF FOOD.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DELIVERIES OF MEDICINE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DELIVERIES OF YOU KNOW, STAFF COMING BACK AND FORTH IN AND OUT.
THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN JUST SOMEBODY RUNNING A SAY, WORKING FROM HOME LIKE WE HAVE AFTER COVID.
AND SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE AGAINST ELDERLY PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE AGAINST, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WORKING FROM HOME, BUT THIS WILL BE A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR SMALL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
AND THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE, AND I'M NOT SURE ON THE LEGAL STATUS OF IT, BUT IT IS A GROUP HOME.
BUT THEN, CAN THAT BE CHANGED AT SOME POINT AS WELL TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF GROUP HOME, SAY LIKE A HALFWAY HOUSE OR SOMETHING ALONG MORE OF THOSE LINES? I WOULD ASSUME, AND I COULD BE WRONG, MAYBE HE KNOWS, BUT THAT IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT USE UNDER THAT SAME ZONING.
AND SO NOW THE ZONING HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WE HAVE NO CHANCE TO TO DO THAT.
AND THEN I AM CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES AS WELL.
SO AND I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL KIDS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE HAD SOME YOUNGER FAMILIES MOVE IN AND THEY WAITED. THE BUS COMES THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT STOPS AT CERTAIN PLACES.
THEY'RE RIGHT THERE ON THE STREET, AS THEY DID MY CHILDREN, WHO ALL FOUR GREW UP HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN AS WELL.
SO WE'VE BEEN HERE 20, ALMOST 27 YEARS IN MIDLOTHIAN, AND MY AUNTS AND UNCLES MOVED DOWN HERE IN THE EARLY 70S.
SO I'VE BEEN. AS A MATTER OF FACT, MY AUNT AND UNCLE LIVED ON THE SAME STREET, SO I'VE BEEN ON STAR WARS SINCE THE 1970S.
USED TO RIDE HORSES AND DIRT BIKES EVEN THEN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MIDLOTHIAN'S STAY THE SAME QUIET COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY NICE FACILITIES FOR THE ELDERLY.
AND SO I DON'T THINK WE'VE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THEM IN ANY WAY.
MR. BUTLER, IF YOU COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME TO THE MICROPHONE. WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL. BRANDY BUTLER. I DO LIVE IN CITY LIMITS.
STAR WASHED. I'M ALSO IN OPPOSITION OF THIS A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THEY ALL MENTIONED, I MENTIONED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING. BUT THIS TIME I WROTE DOWN EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. SO I'M GOING TO READ DIRECTLY FROM THAT.
SO I LIVE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO 3220 STAR WASH.
AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THESE TYPES OF HOMES, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
THIS IS A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE PROPOSING EIGHT RESIDENTS WITH 24 OVER SEVEN STAFFING, AND THERE ARE NO CLEAR BUFFERING OR SCREENING MEASURES BETWEEN OUR PROPERTIES.
I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING STAFF SHIFT CHANGES AND THE INTENSITY OF USE ON WHAT IS ZONED AS AGRICULTURAL LAND.
I WOULD ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO EITHER RECONSIDER APPROVAL OR AT MINIMUM, REQUIRE STRONGER CONDITIONS SUCH AS ADDED FENCING, DEFINED PARKING LIMITS AND CLEAR OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS.
FURTHER CONCERNS WOULD BE THE CONDITIONS OF THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND WHO IS FOLLOWING UP TO MAKE SURE THESE CONDITIONS ARE BEING MET.
WHO IS GOING TO BE THE POINT OF CONTACT IF ANY CONCERNS ARISE, AS THIS WILL NO LONGER BE A NEIGHBOR, BUT A BUSINESS NEXT DOOR.
ALSO, THE STREET IS NOT DESIGNED FOR THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC GENERATED BY 24 OVER SEVEN ROTATING STAFF, MEDICAL TRANSPORT VEHICLES, DELIVERY TRUCKS AND VISITING FAMILY MEMBERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL RESTRICT ANY STREET PARKING.
I DO BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A NEED, A NEED FOR MORE THAN FOUR PARKING SPOTS ON THE PROPERTY. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEED FOR ADDED FENCING OR BUFFERING.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO DIVIDE OUR PROPERTIES FROM THE CURRENT FENCE TO THE STREET, OR YOU KNOW, AS FAR TO THE STREET AS YOU CAN.
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LASTLY, THERE WILL BE WILL THERE BE ANY CHANGES TO THE CURRENT UTILITIES? THE EXISTING SEWER, WATER AND TRASH INFRASTRUCTURE MAY NOT BE RATED FOR THIS LEVEL OF CONTINUOUS HIGH DENSITY USAGE.MY CONCERN IS THE ORIGINAL SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT WAS PLACED IN THE 70S.
NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THIS MANY PERMANENTLY RESIDING IN THE HOME.
I THINK MR. ALTMAN SAID IT BEST THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARING THAT WE URGE CITY COUNCIL TO DENY THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS WE HAVE RURAL AREAS IN THE CITY.
WE NEED TO PRESERVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
LISA. JENNY. MISS JENNY, IF YOU COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY.
JENNY. I DO LIVE IN CITY LIMITS.
I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE HOME IN QUESTION AT THREE, TWO, TWO, ONE STAR WASHED.
TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
IT'S FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT EVERYONE'S BRINGING UP.
MY HOUSE OVERLOOKS THESE BEAUTIFUL GREEN FIELDS.
IT'S QUIET. MY HUSBAND WORKS NIGHTS.
HE SLEEPS ALL DAY. I SLEEP ALL NIGHT.
I WORK ALL DAY. IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SUPPORTS THAT KIND OF LIFESTYLE SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILY IF THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
GRANTED, WE'RE GOING TO SEE AN INFLUX OF EMERGENCY SERVICE VEHICLES.
THERE'S GOING TO BE LIGHTS AND SIRENS. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE KIDS RACING PONIES DOWN STREETS ANYMORE. NOT GOING TO BE KIDS RACING THEIR BIKES DOWN THE STREETS ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS SAFE AS IT WAS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW WHO HAVE NO TIES TO THE COMMUNITY, WHO ARE GOING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THE PEOPLE IN QUESTION WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I WONDER IF THEY MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED SELLING THIS HOUSE AND BUYING A PROPERTY THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SOMETHING WITH HALLWAYS THAT ARE WIDE ENOUGH FOR WHEELCHAIRS TO PASS THROUGH, OR HOSPITAL BEDS TO PASS THROUGH.
SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW EMERGENCY RESPONDERS TO PULL PEOPLE OUT OF THE HOUSE SHOULD THEY NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. I DEFINITELY DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL DRASTICALLY DECREASE MY PROPERTY VALUE.
IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR COMMERCIAL TYPE ENDEAVORS.
THERE ARE NO BUSINESSES THERE.
WHAT'S TO SAY SOMEBODY DOESN'T MOVE IN DOWN THE STREET AND USE THIS AS THEIR WAY FOR OPENING A MEDICAL MARIJUANA STORE.
I MEAN, THIS OPENS THE DOOR FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT I DON'T WANT ON MY STREET, IN MY COMMUNITY. I WANT KIDS ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET, NOT PEOPLE COMING AND GOING.
EVEN PEOPLE WHO RENT FOR A YEAR OR TWO AT A TIME WOULD BE SO LOVELY.
LET'S SEE. I WOULD ASK THAT IF, IF YOU DO GRANT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT THE HOUSE BE FORCED TO BE REMODELED TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL OR PROMOTE THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVED BY THIS.
I DID SOME LIMITED RESEARCH ON THIS AND TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE AN EXPLOITATION OF A VULNERABLE POPULATION OF ELDERLY OR DISABLED PEOPLE FOR A SIGNIFICANT PROFIT UP TO $40,000 A MONTH.
THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS AND NOT THE RIGHT REASON TO DO THIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
SHAUN. TROMBLEY. MISS TRIBAL, IF YOU COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME IN THE MICROPHONE. FOR THE RECORD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
HELLO, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. I'M SHAUN TRIBAL.
I AM DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
MY FENCE BORDERS THIS PROPERTY.
I CAN'T BEAT WHAT ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS SAID.
I'LL ECHO EVERYTHING THEY SAID, AND I WILL SAY THAT THIS HOUSE WAS INHERITED AFTER JERRY PASSED LAST YEAR.
THEY HAVE DONE NO IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS HOUSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE COUNCIL OR OR CITY HAVE DRIVEN BY OTHER THAN THE ONE PICTURE WE SAW, BUT I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A WRECK AND I JUST I DON'T WANT TO DEPEND ON THEM TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO BETTER. AND ONCE YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS THING, THE ONLY GUARDRAILS IS THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. FOR THE MOST PART, OTHER THAN THE STATE IS GOING TO OVERSEE IT.
AND THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
AND YOU HEARD LISA AND THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS, MOST OF US MORE THAN NOT, THAT HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO COME UP HERE TONIGHT OTHER THAN THE APPLICANT, NOT I MISSED DINNER WITH MY GRANDKID TONIGHT.
NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT. BUT I MOVED TO OUR HOPE THAT YOU GUYS MOVE AND GALS MOVE TO SAY
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NO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, SIR. OKAY, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
SINCE THERE'S NO MORE PUBLIC INPUT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND.
MOTION MADE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY MAYOR PRO TEM. SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND. PLEASE VOTE. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES 7 TO 0.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO. COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
YOU KNOW I THINK EXIST FOR THOSE TYPE OF POTENTIALLY NONCONFORMING USES THAT THAT CAN BE ALLOWED IF THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I MEAN, WE LOOK AT THE PROVISION FOR GROUP HOMES OR COMMUNITY HOMES IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IT'S REALLY DESIGNED FOR.
I THINK THERE WAS ONE ON NINTH STREET THAT FACED NINTH STREET, RIGHT NEAR LENA LANE. IT'S A MORE, YOU KNOW THOROUGHFARE CORRIDOR.
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS A SPOT THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT AS YOU TEND TO INCREASE THE SCOPE AND MAGNITUDE OF THIS KIND OF PROJECT INTERNALLY INSIDE OF NEIGHBORHOODS, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DISCRETION PART OF THE PIECE REALLY COMES INTO PLAY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE APPROPRIATE NEIGHBORHOODS AND LOCATIONS.
PERHAPS IF IT WAS MORE LIKE BELMONT AND SIX, SIX, THREE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT DOWN WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU'VE GOT THE CAPACITY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO, TO MAKE MORE SENSE. THE QUESTION I DO HAVE, AND IT'S PROBABLY A JOKE QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO LOOK IT UP MYSELF WITH MY JUNIOR ATTORNEYS BADGE.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IN STATE LAW, I THINK I FOUND IT ON THE HUMAN RESOURCES CODE SAYS THAT COMMUNITY HOMES, UP TO SIX RESIDENTS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT BY STATE LAW IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THAT THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT.
SO I JUST I WANT THE THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE INDIVIDUALS, IF THEY MEET THE LICENSING REQUIREMENT OF THE STATE, CAN PUT UP TO SIX RESIDENTS AND TWO SUPERVISORS, THEY'RE ALLOWED IN IN ZONING DISTRICTS, RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, IN PARTICULAR, BY. RIGHT. ADDITIONALLY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER. UNDER THAT THEY ARE A GROUP HOME, BUT THEY ARE NOT LICENSED BY THE STATE OR DON'T FALL INTO ONE OF THESE. STILL, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR DECISIONS UP HERE, OUR DECISIONS MUST BE LEGITIMATE AND NONDISCRIMINATORY.
DECISIONS AS IT RELATES TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ALLOW THIS TYPE OF FACILITY IN IN AGRICULTURE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON PEOPLE THAT HAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME TYPE OF DISABILITY, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S AN INTENSITY OF USE QUESTION, NOT A TYPE OF QUESTION.
DISCRIMINATORY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T WANT AMBULANCES OR WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE DON'T BASE OUR DECISIONS OFF OF THAT BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE A FAMILY OF EIGHT LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE ON THE STREETS OR, OR THAT THAT CONCERN YOU OR ALARM YOU.
SO YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON LEGITIMATE, NONDISCRIMINATORY REASONS.
ABSOLUTELY. WHICH I THINK IS THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE INTENSITY OF USE. I MEAN, THESE THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. BUT I, I DO WANT TO ALERT THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, THAT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE STATE LAW CAN TRUMP THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL.
WHAT WE HAVE THE DISCRETION ON IS THE INTENSITY OF USE.
ONCE YOU GET PAST, YOU KNOW, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
AND I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY, IN MY OPINION, INAPPROPRIATE USE INTENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY AS IT SITS TODAY, AS IT STANDS TODAY. THANK YOU.
ROSS. WAYNE. THAT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME POINT I WAS GOING TO BE ASKING AND BRINGING UP.
I APPRECIATE IT. WITH REGARDS TO THE STATE LAW OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING AND I GUESS I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION OF STAFF. I DID LOOK IT UP ON THE CAD THAT THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS STATED AT 1345 IN THE CAD.
NOW THAT, THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN 2353 OBVIOUSLY.
AND THEN SEEING THE THE THE OTHER.
SOME OF THE OTHER ASPECTS QUESTION BEING IN MY MIND.
HIGHEST AND BEST USE IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL OTHER PLACES AROUND THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED IN THAT KIND OF LOCATION. BUT IS THAT IS THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE ISSUE? I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY COUNTING THE PORCH.
WAS IT COUNTING THE GARAGE TOO, OR.
I THINK IT'S COUNTING BOTH THE GARAGE AND THE PORCH.
OKAY. BECAUSE THE PORCH IS ALSO ENCLOSED.
I'LL GO LEFT TO RIGHT HERE. ALAN.
NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUST A MOTION WHEN EVERYBODY'S DONE.
OKAY, MIKE. I WILL TAG ON TO WHAT COUNCILMAN WEAVER HAD MENTIONED, BUT A LITTLE FURTHER. WHAT? SO? SO IF WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS WOULD BE KIND OF LEGAL AND STAFF IF WE ARE DEALING
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WITH A A SIX MEMBER RESIDENT BY RIGHTS SITUATION, DO WE AS A CITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE.IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A.
BASICALLY A BUSINESS THAT IS INJECTED INTO A RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE GREATER RESPONSIBILITIES ADA ENTRY AND BRINGING ALL THAT UP TO CODE? I WOULD EVEN GO AS FAR BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE ELDERLY WHO WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO GET OUT AS QUICKLY AS THOSE WHOM ARE YOUNGER TO WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A WATER SPRINKLER REQUIREMENT OF THAT FACILITY AND HOME.
ARE WE NOT? DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING UP THE REQUIREMENTS OF STRUCTURE? WE, THE CITY OR THE CITY COUNCIL? AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE DISCRIMINATORY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS ON THOSE TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENTS BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE, IF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE A DISABILITY.
HOWEVER, THROUGH THE LICENSING BY THE STATE, THE STATE DOES PUT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE FACILITIES. AND WHAT.
AS FAR AS SAFETY REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT IS NECESSARY.
BUT YOU'RE. BUT MY QUESTION, YOU CAN'T GO A STEP FURTHER AND PUT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON TOP OF THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ELDERLY OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME TYPE OF DISABILITY WITHIN THAT HOME.
YOU'RE SAYING WE CANNOT. YOU CANNOT.
OKAY. BUT BUT CAN ARE YOU SAYING THAT THESE STATE REGULATIONS ARE TRIGGERED WHEN YOU SURPASS SIX RESIDENTS? IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF LICENSING FOR THE FACILITY.
THERE'S MULTIPLE THERE'S NUMEROUS TYPES OF LICENSING TO IN DEPTH TO GO INTO AT THIS MEETING. AS THAT GET APPROVAL FROM THE STATE AT THE STATE LEVEL AND GET FUNDING FROM THE STATE. AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE THAT I'M CONFIDENT IN SUPI BELIEVE TRANSFERS WITH THE PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH WITHIN TRANSFER, WE COULD CLAIM THAT IT WILL GO AWAY IF IT IS NOT EXERCISED FOR 18 MONTHS, BUT IT WILL AND JUST ABOUT ALL CASES TRANSFER WITH THAT PROPERTY.
AND 18 MONTHS IS THE THRESHOLD OF THAT USAGE OR SUV.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE WRITE INTO THAT WHAT WE WRITE ON, WHAT WE WRITE INTO THAT SUV AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION.
BUT IT IS A TRANSFER. THANK YOU ANNA.
READY FOR A MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? YEAH. ELLEN, I'LL TAKE YOUR MOTION.
MOTION TO DENY WITH PREJUDICE.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMOND'S FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DID YOU SAY JUST DENY FLAT OUT.
YES. OKAY. MOTION TO DENY WAS APPROVED.
THANK YOU. OKAY. TO THE TOP OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS,
[2026-119 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the development and use regulations of a 1.707+ acre portion of Planned Development District No. 179 (PD-179) for a Gas Station with Convenience Store Use. The property is generally located at the southwest corner of West Main Street and US Highway 67 Southbound Service Road. (Z35-2025-088)]
2026 119. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT USE REGULATIONS OF 1.7 ACRE PORTION OF PD 179, A GAS STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE USE.
THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST MAIN STREET, U.S.
HIGHWAY 67, SOUTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD.
MIRIAM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MARIAN SPENCER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
THIS ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PD 179 FOR A GAS STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE THAT'S ON 1.7 ACRES. THIS REQUEST WAS CONTINUED BY CITY COUNCIL AT THE MARCH 24TH MEETING. IF YOU RECALL, THE LOCATION IS SOUTH OF MAIN STREET AND WEST OF U.S. HIGHWAY 67. IT IS IN THE REGIONAL MODULE OF THE GUIDING MIDLOTHIAN GUIDING OUR FUTURE MIDLOTHIAN 2045.
AND SO SINCE THE MARCH 24TH MEETING, THEY DID MAKE A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ELEVATIONS IN THE SITE PLAN.
THEY DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE RECOMMENDATION OF BOTH STAFF AND STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL TO INSTALL A LOADING ZONE.
AND SO THEY HAVE SINCE INSTALLED THE LOADING ZONE AND REMOVED FIVE PARKING SPACES.
AND SO SINCE THE MARCH 24TH MEETING, I'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THE CHANGES THEY MADE.
THEY ADDED THE LOADING ZONE AS A REQUEST BY STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL.
THEY REDUCED THE PARKING VARIANCE.
THEY ADDED ADDITIONAL OLD TOWN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FEATURES AND REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VARIANCES FROM 5 TO 4.
AND SO THESE ARE THE NEW PROPOSED ELEVATIONS FOR THE QUICK TRIP.
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AS YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED ELEVATIONS.JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN MARCH 24TH.
ON MY LEFT. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING NOW ON THE RIGHT.
AND SO THE ELEVATION CHANGES SINCE MARCH THEY'VE THEY'VE INCREASED THE HEIGHT OF TWO PLANES, THIS ONE HERE AND THIS ONE HERE.
THEY'VE INSTALLED CORNICES ATOP HERE AND HERE.
AND ON THE SIDE FACING US HIGHWAY 67.
THEY CREATED A THIRD VARIATION ROOF HERE.
AND THEY'VE EXTENDED THE ROCK TEXTURE TO ADD HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION.
SO THEY ADDED IT HERE. THEY ADDED A SECOND AREA HERE AND IT GOES A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND ATTACHES TO THE CORNICE.
AND THEY'VE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL WINDOW.
IT'S NOT REAL BUT IT'S A WINDOW.
IT LOOKS REAL IN PLACE OF A SIGN AND THEY ADDED THREE, NOT THREE FALSE WINDOWS OF YOUR.
THEY ALSO REVISED THE REAR CABINET SIGN AND IT'S GOING TO APPEAR LIKE A MURAL ON THE BACK OF THE WALL HERE. AND SO THEIR CANOPIES, THEY DID REMOVE ONE OF THE SHEETS HERE FACING MAIN STREET. THIS IS STILL FACING.
IF YOU COME FROM 67, THEY DO HAVE THE Q T AND THEN COMING UP MAIN, THEY ONLY HAVE THE ONE SIGN.
AND SO THEY DID THEY DIDN'T MAIN IS UP NORTH HERE NOW.
AND SO THEY DID KEEP THEIR LANDSCAPE VARIANTS, WHICH, IF YOU RECALL, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY REMOVED THE TREE REQUIREMENT ALONG 67 BECAUSE OF THE THE UTILITY EASEMENTS.
AND THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH ENGINEERING ON A LOCATION WHERE SOME TREES COULD BE PLACED AND CHANGE THE TYPE OF TREES ALONG MAIN STREET THAT DON'T IMPACT THE SEWER LINES AND UTILITIES, AND THEY'RE OUT OF THE WAY OF THE OVERHEAD ELECTRIC.
AND SO THEY WE FOUND SOME COMPROMISE HERE ALONG MAIN TO SCREEN THE PUMPS.
AND SO WE DO STILL SUPPORT THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
THEY, WE WANTED THE LOADING ZONE TO GET RID OF NINE SPACES.
THEY WERE ABLE TO GET A LOADING ZONE AND REDUCE IT TO FIVE.
SO WITH THAT GETTING IT TO 45 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER LOCATION IN TOWN.
AND SO WE STAFF NOW SUPPORTS THEIR VARIANCE REQUEST.
AND THESE ARE SHOWING THE LOCATION OF ALL THE SIGNS ON THE BUILDING.
MAIN IS AGAIN UP NORTH BECAUSE IT'S NORTH.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH SIGN REDUCTIONS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH WITH COUNTY, THEY HAVE THESE SIGNS ON THEIR GAS PUMPS AND WE SAID THAT'S OKAY, BUT THEY CANNOT FACE ANY OF THE STREETS.
AND SO THEY WILL BE HIDDEN FROM THE ROADWAYS.
AND SO THIS IS THE MONUMENT SIGN.
THIS IS THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW THE MONUMENT SIGN.
THE SECOND IS TO ALLOW CANOPY SIGN.
AND THIS IS A BIGGER ZOOMED IN OF THE REAR SIGN THAT'S GOING TO BE EXTERNALLY LIT.
THE SIGN AND THE Q T ON THE CANOPY ARE INTERNALLY LIT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE.
AND THIS IS A RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING WITH THE TREES.
WE DID SEND SIX POSTCARDS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THERE'S TWO SIGNS OUT THERE.
AND WE DID POST IT IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PD.
179 AMENDMENT FOR A GAS STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE, AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING ZONING AND LAND USES AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN POLICIES. WE SUPPORT ALL THEIR VARIANCES AS REVISED AND PLANNING AND ZONING DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE LOADING ZONE BE PROVIDED.
AND SO YOU DID RECOMMEND TO POSTPONE IT AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
AND THEY HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT REVISIONS TO THEIR SITE PLAN SINCE THEN.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. MIRIAM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.
PUBLIC SPEAKERS. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION TO CLOSE. I'M SORRY I MISSED IT. WHO? ROSS. ROSS.
MOTION TO CLOSE. COUNCILMAN WEAVER.
MOTION TO CLOSE. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM CLOSES 7 TO 0.
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IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? MAKE A PRESENTATION OR JUST STAND FOR QUESTION? HELLO, I'M BRANDON WITH KWIK TRIP, 8700 FREEPORT PARKWAY, IRVING, TEXAS 75063. BASICALLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.I WANT TO FIRST OFF, BY THANKING STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH US IN PERSON TO GET TO THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY IN THE SUBMITTAL.
WE DID. THE COLLABORATION HAS WORKED VERY WELL, SO I'M OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY MAY HAVE.
I'M. I NOTICED THAT GAS SIGN SAID A PRICE OF $2.28.
I'M HOPING YOU CAN MAKE THAT A PERMANENT. I WILL JUST MAKE A COMMENT THAT THE REVISIONS I THINK ARE FANTASTIC. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND I THINK IT REALLY MEETS, IN MY OPINION, ONE OF SEVEN IT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVED PD.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO IT. MIKE, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR SPENDING THE TIME WITH US AND YOU REALLY WENT OUT OF YOUR WAY.
SHE WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, EVEN TO SOME OF THOSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET.
SO I THANK YOU FOR DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.
THANK YOU SIR. THAT GOES BOTH WAYS THERE. THAT WAS REALLY A TWO WAY STREET, WORKED HARD. AND YOU LOOKED AT THE RENDITIONS OF WHAT THAT EXHIBIT F INCLUDES AND YOU MADE IT DIDN'T REALLY TAKE A LOT MORE, BUT IT'S DONE RIGHT.
THANK YOU SIR. SORRY, CLARK, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
BUT I ALSO AGREE THE RENDERINGS ARE AWESOME.
THANK YOU. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE SIGN VARIANCE FOR THE MONUMENT SIGN.
I'M FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE NEW ORDINANCE AND THE OLD ORDINANCE. WHAT EXACTLY IS THE VARIANCE REQUEST? SO IN THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE EXISTING.
THERE'S A SIGN PLAN IN THE PD 179 ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR TWO MULTI-TENANT PYLON SIGNS. AND SO THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SIGN OUTSIDE OF THOSE EXISTING SIGNS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. OKAY. SO IT'S SECTION F, SUBSECTION ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PD.
CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT HELPS.
GOOD. YEP. OKAY. COUNCIL, TAKE A MOTION.
MOVE TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE.
BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ROGERS.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.
THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. WHERE ARE WE AT?
[2026-120 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a water well on a 4.95+ acre portion of the Benjamin C. Garvin Survey, Abstract No. 396, located at 1625 Misty Wood Drive. (SUP04-2026-021).]
HERE. 2026, 120. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SUP FOR WATER. WELL. 4.95 ACRE PORTION OF BENJAMIN C GARVIN SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 396.LOCATED AT 1625 MISTY WOOD WOULD DRIVE.
MIRIAM. HI. YOU'RE BUSY TONIGHT? YES. THE NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A WATER WELL IN AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
SO THE WATER WELL IS GOING TO BE PLACED ON A 4.95 ACRE PORTION OF A 42 ACRE LOT.
THE WATER WELL IS BEING INSTALLED TO PROVIDE A WATER SOURCE FOR HIS LIVESTOCK, AND THE HOME ON THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SERVED BY CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN WATER, AND THE WELL WILL NOT BE SUPPLYING WATER TO THE HOME.
JUST SIMPLY TO FUND THE WATER TANK.
THE PRAIRIE LAND GROUSE GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT HAS APPROVED THE PERMIT FOR THE WELL. AND SO THIS IS SHOWING THAT THE WELL IS GOING TO BE IN THEIR PASTURE HERE.
AND IT'S ROUGHLY 246FT FROM THEIR WESTERN PROPERTY LINE AND 520FT FROM THEIR THEIR SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
AND SO 30 POSTCARDS WERE MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE SITE.
ONE SIGN IS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR, AND WE RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS PROPOSED REQUEST.
OKAY. AND SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE WATER WELL, AND PLANNING AND ZONING DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL AT THE APRIL 26TH MEETING.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. SINCE THERE'S NO PUBLIC INPUT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ROGERS.
PLEASE VOTE. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES 7 TO 0.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR MAKE COMMENTS? NO. OKAY. COUNCIL. QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I'LL TAKE. I'LL TAKE WAYNE'S MOTION.
COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD TO APPROVE. AS PRESENTED. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ROGERS.
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PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.2026 121. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.
[2026-121 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the development and use of 44.80+ acres out of the R. Berry Survey Abstract No. 42 by changing the zoning from Agricultural (A) District to Planned Development District No. 169 (PD-169) and amending the development regulations of PD-169 by amending the Concept Plan, Elevations, and Landscape Plan. The property is located at the southwest corner of the intersection of VV Jones Road and Old VV Jones Road. (Z07-2026-012)]
CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT USE OF 44 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OUT OF ABSTRACT NUMBER 42 BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM AG PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 169.AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF PD 169 BY AMENDING THE CONCEPT PLAN ELEVATION LANDSCAPE PLAN PROPERTIES LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF INTERSECTION OF JONES ROAD AND OLD JONES ROAD.
DANIEL, WELCOME. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
DANIEL HUMBERT, SENIOR PLANNER TO PRESENT.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE AND AMEND PD 169 TO INCORPORATE A DETAILED SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE AND ELEVATION PLAN FOR A DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND OUTDOOR STORAGE ON A 44.80 ACRE LOT. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH INDUSTRIAL MODULE, FUTURE LAND USE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW WITH THE ADJACENT ZONING, LAND USES AND FUTURE LAND USES IN THE BOTTOM LEFT TABLE.
STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST PARTIALLY COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES AND ZONING.
DUE TO THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USES AND ZONING TO THE NORTH, EAST AND WEST. HERE'S A DETAILED SITE PLAN.
THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A 137,760 SQUARE FOOT DISTRIBUTION CENTER, OUTDOOR STORAGE AND TRAINING AREA.
THE TRAINING AREA WILL BE FOR ENCORE MEASUREMENT SERVICES, WHICH INVOLVE MANAGING HIGH VOLTAGE COMMERCIAL GRADE METERING AND VERIFYING ENERGY EFFICIENCY. THIS WILL SERVE AS AN ADDITIONAL FACILITY TO THE ENCORE DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE TO THE SOUTH.
HERE'S A LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH REQUIRES NO VARIANCES.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL REQUIREMENTS BY PROVIDING A LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG JONES ROAD, AS WELL AS VEGETATION AROUND THE PERIMETER.
HERE, THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS, WHICH WILL WILL REQUIRE NO VARIANCES AND ARE COMPARABLE TO THE FACILITY TO THE SOUTH.
THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED IN 1999 AND IS ACCESSIBLE FROM JONES ROAD, WHICH IS A PROPOSED MAJOR ARTERIAL ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
HERE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS, STRATEGIES AND POLICIES.
THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH.
THEY INCLUDE SUPPORTING, ATTRACTING AND RETAINING HIGH PAYING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, DIVERSIFYING THE EMPLOYMENT BASE AND ENCOURAGING A BALANCE OF LAND USES THAT EXPAND LOCAL JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
PUBLIC NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE SITE AND NO OBJECTION HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
A SIGN WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY AND NOTICE OF THIS MEETING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE CITY NEWSPAPER. THE REQUEST WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT A VOTE OF 5 TO 0. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING AND AMENDMENT TO PD 169.
THANK YOU. I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU DANIEL.
IT'S PUBLIC HEARING TIME. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK WITH NO PUBLIC INPUT? I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE MAYOR. PRO TEM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEMS. PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED 7 TO 0.
APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT. DID YOU SAY DANIEL? CORRECT. OKAY. THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD.
THEY DIDN'T SAY THEY WANTED TO PRESENT JUST TO THEIR PRESENT. OKAY. COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.
I'M SORRY. SEEING. NO ENGAGEMENT.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE.
AS PRESENTED. MOTION TO APPROVE.
AS PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN. SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.
THANK YOU. DANIEL. 2020 123 CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING.
[2026-123 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance rezoning 593.939+ acres out of the W. M. Lick Survey, Abstract No. 620, J.P. Neill Survey, Abstract No. 1387, E. Rice Survey, Abstract No. 929, A.R. Newton Survey, Abstract No. 807, P.I.C. Survey, Abstract No. 1240, Z. Heath Survey, Abstract No. 455, J. Kyser Survey, Abstract No. 597, W. Wilkins Survey, Abstract No. 1162, JR Beauchamp Survey, Abstract No. 1201, AR Newton Survey, Abstract No. 809, and I. Cooper Survey, Abstract No. 226, from Agricultural (A) District and Planned Development District No. 136 (PD-136) to Planned Development District No. 136 (PD-136); and to amend the Development Regulations for Planned Development District No. 136 (PD-136). The property is located east of Lakeway Esplanade and Homestead Road, and northwest of US Highway 287 and Rex Odom Drive. (Case No. Z04-2026-008).]
CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE REZONING 593 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES.THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF LAKEWAY ESPLANADE AND HOMESTEAD ROAD AND NORTHWEST OF US HIGHWAY 287 AND REX ODOM DRIVE.
FIVE GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 291 ACRES OR INCORPORATING BASICALLY 291 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURAL INTO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. NUMBER 136, ALSO KNOWN AS BRIDGEWATER, IN THE EASTERN PART OF OUR CITY LIMITS.
WE HAVE HAD AT LEAST ONE WORKSHOP ON THIS BACK IN DECEMBER, AND THEY'VE WORKED THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. I THINK MET WITH SEVERAL COUNCILS SINCE THEN. BUT THIS IS 593 ACRES, 291 ADDITIONAL ACRES TO THE ORIGINAL PD.
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IT IS A CREATION OF MIXED USE DISTRICT EXPANSION OF INDUSTRIAL SUBDISTRICT, WHICH WILL BE RIGHT ALONG THE AIRPORT BOUNDARY AND THEN RELOCATION OF THE TOWNHOME DISTRICT THAT WAS FORMERLY IN THE ORIGINAL BRIDGEWATER.SO THIS FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HAS THIS AREA AS BOTH MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA REGIONAL MODULE, KIND OF ALONG THE 287 BOUNDARY AND THEN CORPORATE MODULE THAT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE AIRPORT ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND THIS BETWEEN THE MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, IT IS 3 TO 4 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT WITH 3.46 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
AND THAT IS ENCOMPASSING THE TOWNHOMES AS WELL AS THE MIXED USE AREA.
AND THAT IS EXCLUDING THE FLOODPLAIN IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU SEE, THE AREA THAT WILL BE REZONED IS IN THE YELLOW.
YOU SEE THE FRONTAGE ON 287, WHICH WILL BE THE THE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS THE CORPORATE MODULE OR THE THE COMMERCIAL MODULE UP TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE MIXED USE AREA. AND THEN AS EXPLAINED EARLIER AND WE'LL SEE LATER, WE'LL HAVE INDUSTRIAL ALONG THE BORDER TO THE WEST OF THE AIRPORT THERE.
SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE AREA.
THE MAJORITY OF BLUE IS IS RESIDENTIAL.
THEN THE GREEN IS AGRICULTURAL IN THIS AREA.
AND THEN THIS JUST BETTER EXPLAINS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WITH THE CORPORATE MODULE BY THE AIRPORT REGIONAL MODULE DOWN BY 287.
AND THEN THE ORANGE BEING THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS ALSO DISPLAYS OUR THOROUGHFARES THROUGH. HERE YOU SEE HAYES ROAD, THE GREEN ROAD THAT RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH.
SO THAT IS A PROMINENT ROAD IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS DOES COMPLY WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT PROMOTES ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ALL RESIDENTS, ALL RESIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY PROTECTING MIDLOTHIAN'S NEIGHBORHOODS BY PROVIDING TRANSITIONAL LOT DESIGN.
AND THAT DESIGN IS USED ADJACENT TO THE LAGO VISTA SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE LOTS ARE BETWEEN 10,000 AND 8400 SQUARE FOOT, AND THE USE OF MIXED USE AND TOWNHOME SUBDISTRICTS BETWEEN US 287, AND THAT PROVIDES A BUFFER BETWEEN 287 AND THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO ITS NORTH, AS WELL AS LEVERAGING ZONING CASES TO PROVIDE NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES AND SERVICES.
IT ALSO ENCOURAGES A BALANCE OF LAND USES THAT SERVE THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS THROUGH ACCESSIBLE JOBS AND SERVICES INCREASES OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO WORK WITHIN THE CITY, GIVEN BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS, AND IT ALSO SUPPORTS HORIZONTAL MIXING OF APPROPRIATE USES IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.
IT ALSO TOUCHES ON OUR ECONOMIC, ECONOMIC AND FISCAL RESILIENCY GOAL, ATTRACTING AND RETAINING HIGH POWER AND HIGH PAYING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT TAP INTO THE REGION'S HUMAN RESOURCES.
AND IT DIVERSIFIES OUR EMPLOYMENT BASE TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND EXPAND LOCAL JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
SO TO THE LEFT OF THIS PICTURE IS NORTH.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO ORIENT YOU THERE.
HERE'S 287 HERE, WALNUT GROVE HERE.
SO THIS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY WELL I'M SORRY.
I'M GOING A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THIS IS WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY BUILT IN BRIDGWATER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO RESIDENTIAL DOWN HERE.
THIS IS A SCHOOL SITE THAT MIDLOTHIAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS FROM THIS ROAD TO PLAN NORTH, WHICH WOULD BE ACTUALLY EARTH EAST.
SO YOU HAVE THE MIXED USE DOWN HERE BUFFERED INTO THE TOWNHOMES AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS UP HERE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL THAT BORDERS ON THE AIRPORT UP HERE, AND YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CURRENT BRIDGEWATER DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF JUST EXPLAINING WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THAT THERE'S NO, NOT ALL OF THIS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THE SOUTH PART.
BUT THIS IS NOT A POINT OF DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
SO WE HAVE SIX TYPE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ANYWHERE FROM 1500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT DOWN TO 4400 SQUARE FOOT LOT. YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF LOTS IN THERE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A TOWNHOME, WHICH THE LOT WOULD BE 20 FOOT WIDE, 2000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE, AND THEN THE MIXED USE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD ADHERE TO MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS.
AND THOSE ARE MAXIMUM ONE OVER 1000 UNITS THERE.
THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS DOWN HERE FOR ALL THE VARIOUS TYPES OF LOTS IN THIS AREA. SO ON THE SINGLE FAMILY ARCHITECTURAL AMENITY REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE ARTICULATED FRONTS WITH MINIMUM OF TWO FRONT ARTICULATIONS AND TWO HEIGHT PLATE VARIATIONS. THREE ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS FROM THE PD ORDINANCE.
NO IDENTICAL ELEVATIONS WILL BE REPEATED WITHIN FOUR LOTS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET OR ACROSS THE STREET.
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AND THEN WE HAVE AN ENTRY PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT SIGNAGE.AND THIS IS IF YOU LOOK AT COMING OFF OF 287, WHICH WOULD BE A SERVICE ROAD AT SOME POINT MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THEM TO ATTACH THE 287 SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DETACH TO THE MAIN LANE.
SO YOU HAVE THE MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL HERE.
AND THEY, THIS IS THE ENHANCED DRIVEWAY FEATURES HERE.
YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY INSTALLED HERE ON THE EXISTING BRIDGEWATER.
THIS IS THE PAVILION. THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING AN AMENITY CENTER DOWN KIND OF WHERE THE ARROW IS HERE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE VARIOUS ENTRY ICONS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND YOU'VE SEEN THE SIGN. SO. THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO THIS IS ONCE AGAIN COMING OFF OF 287 STREET I.
ALL THE BUILDINGS WITH PINK WOULD BE THE MIXED USE.
SO THOSE WOULD BE HAVE RESIDENTIAL UPPER FLOORS AND THEN THE BOTTOM FLOOR WOULD BE COMMERCIAL. WE DO HAVE STANDARDS FOR THOSE COMMERCIALS.
WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED? THEY ARE PROPOSING FOUR STORIES ON ALL THESE BUILDINGS HERE IN THIS AREA.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THESE WOULD BE FOUR STORIES OF RESIDENTIAL.
THESE WOULD BE ONE STORY OF COMMERCIAL AND THEN THREE STORIES OF RESIDENTIAL ON TOP OF THAT. SO THIS IS IN THE MIXED USE NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
THESE ARE THE THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF WHAT WOULD BE HERE.
GENERAL PROFESSIONAL USES DAYCARE, BAKERY, ANTIQUE SHOPS, SPECIALTY SHOP, BOOK, MUSIC OR VIDEO STORE, ARCADE, CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT GAS PUMPS AND THEN GROCERY STORES UNDER 5000FT².
AN SCP IS REQUIRED FOR RESTAURANTS WITH A DRIVE THRU.
A PACKAGE STORE, WHICH IS ALCOHOL SALES AND PET SHOPS AS WELL.
SO THIS IS A SCREENING PLAN THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.
IF YOU SEE THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED HAYES ROAD.
THIS WOULD BE BOARD ON BOARD, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE PROVIDED WITH A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN HAYES ROAD AND THE FENCE.
AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND THAT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE BUFFERING FROM THE INDUSTRIAL USES AND THE AIRPORT TO THE EAST.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ORNAMENTAL FENCE ATTACHED TO OPEN OPEN SPACES.
AND THEN YOU'D ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL BOARD ON BOARD FENCES WITHIN THERE.
BUT THE MAJORITY OF EVERYTHING THAT'S FACING AN OPEN SPACE WOULD BE OPAQUE FENCING.
SO THESE ARE THE AMENITY PROGRAMING IN PHASE TWO.
YOU HAVE REGIONAL TRAIL WHICH IS THROUGHOUT THE GREEN SPACE, YOU'D HAVE ONE COMMUNITY PARK, TWO POCKET PARKS AND THREE NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDORS. ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF BRIDGEWATER WILL BE WITHIN HALF MILE RADIUS OF A PARK AMENITY. AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A TEN MINUTE WALK FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOODS OR ALL THE ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE AREAS.
SO VERY WALKABLE AND PROMOTES THAT RECREATION, PASSIVE AND BOTH, BOTH ACTIVE AND PASSIVE.
PASSIVE. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE ON THE VARIOUS PARK AMENITIES, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDOR AND TRAILHEAD MINIMUM, WHICH WOULD BE HALF AN ACRE OF POCKET PARK WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 0.75 ACRES.
AND A COMMUNITY PARK WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES.
THERE WOULD BE WALKWAYS, BIKE RACK, WATER FOUNTAINS AND TRASH CANS ARE REQUIRED, AND AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOWING WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDOR AND THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDOR. EXCUSE ME.
REQUIRES THREE. SO. RESTROOMS, CABANA PAVILION, SPORTS, MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD, OUTDOOR LIVING AREA, FITNESS STATION, AND THEN A PLAYGROUND WITH THREE ELEMENTS.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE THE GRAND ENTRY TO BRIDGEWATER.
THIS IS THE PICTURE, THE AERIAL PICTURE WE SAW EARLIER OF THE PAVILION AND EVERYTHING, THE PROMENADE. AND THEN THIS IS THE AMENITY CENTER THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.
SO AND HERE'S THE TRAIL AND OPEN SPACE PLAN. THAT'S THE AMENITY CENTER THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THEIR CORRIDORS, THEIR FLOODPLAINS, THEY'RE REALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE AND CREATING AN AMENITY IN THESE AREAS.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY THROUGH ALL THAT, NOT JUST VIA ROADS OR SIDEWALKS, BUT ALSO VIA TRAILS.
SO KIDS CAN LIVE IN THE NEW SECTION AND VERY EASILY MAKE IT OVER TO THE AMENITY CENTER WHERE THERE WILL BE A POOL WITHOUT EVER REALLY HAVING TO GET ON A ROAD. SO.
SO THESE ARE THE VARIOUS ROADS WE HAVE.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HAYS ROAD OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS QUITE EXTENSIVELY.
WE DID GO FROM 80 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY TO A 90 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY ON THAT PORTION OF HAYS ROAD. AND THEN YOU HAVE SEVERAL THOROUGHFARES BISECTING THE PROPERTY, BOTH EAST AND WEST. SO PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATION 26 POSTCARDS WERE MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT.
SEVEN SIGNS WERE POSTED ALL OVER THE PROPERTY.
THIS MEETING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR, AND AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION WITHIN 200FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO IT'S KIND OF ODD GIVEN THE OTHER POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
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BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PD.136 WE DO FIND IT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS, STRATEGIES, AND ACTIONS.
AND PNC DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS 4 TO 1 AT THE APRIL 21ST MEETING.
I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THE THE DEVELOPERS HERE, PROBABLY WITH A PRESENTATION, I WOULD THINK.
ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO PUBLIC INPUT.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION MADE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY MAYOR PRO TEM. SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS. PLEASE VOTE.
IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE A PRESENTATION OR STAND FOR QUESTION.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BEN LIEDTKE WITH HANOVER PROPERTY COMPANY, 3001 KNOX STREET IN DALLAS.
LIKE CLYDE HAD SAID, WE'VE BEEN WITH YOU GUYS, I THINK TWICE WITH TWO WORKSHOPS OR MAYBE ONE MET WITH SOME OF Y'ALL INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL.
AARON HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PRESENTATION TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT CLYDE WALKED YOU THROUGH, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. AND JUST WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CONTINUE WHAT WE STARTED HERE. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE PUT ON THE GROUND.
I THINK IT'S BEEN WELL RECEIVED. I KNOW FROM THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT CONTINUING IT ON.
SO I'M GOING TO LET AARON GO THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL BOTH BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
THANK YOU. AARON DUNCAN MESA DESIGN GROUP, 2001 LAMAR STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS. I KNOW WE'VE DONE TWO WORKSHOPS WITH YOU ALL.
SOME OF THIS IS REPETITIVE AND CLYDE STOLE ALL MY SLIDES.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY.
I DO WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE POINTS AND WALK ME THROUGH HOW TO CHANGE THIS HERE.
I HAVEN'T USED POWERPOINT SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL. OKAY.
GET THAT. YEAH. NICE. WE'RE IN.
JUST SO REAL QUICK SUMMARY OF THE DAY.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE IS BRIDGEWATER HAS BEEN A SUCCESS SO FAR.
SO THIS HAS REALLY TAKEN ALL THE DESIGN PRINCIPLES, ALL THE MULTIPLE MEETINGS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH YOU ALL YEARS AGO, ESTABLISHING THAT THE PD, THOSE SAME DESIGN PRINCIPLES THAT CLYDE JUST WALKED THROUGH, THE OPEN SPACE, THE TRAILS, THE ENTRY FEATURES NOW NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL, JUST TAKING ALL THAT STUFF AND JUST APPLYING IT BY INTEGRATING THE ADDITIONAL 290 ACRES OF THE SEAL PROPERTY INTO BRIDGEWATER.
SO SAME RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZES, SAME AMENITIES AND SO FORTH.
AND JUST TRYING TO APPLY THE STANDARDS.
THE ONE CHANGE WAS THERE WAS A STOOL SITE ORIGINALLY INTENDED IN THE ZONING FOR LOXAHATCHEE ISD. THEY HAVE NOT WANTED THAT PROPERTY MORE.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT SHIFTING OUR TOWNHOMES TO THAT SITE AND THEN CONVERTING WHAT WAS THE TOWNHOME AND THE COMMERCIAL LAND INTO A VERTICAL MIXED USE COMPONENT, WHICH SUMMARY? EVERYTHING IN WHITE IS THE STUFF UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
MOST RECENTLY, THE AMENITY CENTER IS BEING BUILT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL PD, WHAT WAS REQUIRED? THE AMENITY CENTER PLANS ARE GOING TO BE WELL ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED.
I DON'T KNOW IF BEN LETS ME SAY THIS OR NOT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AN $8 MILLION FACILITY, INDOOR CLUBHOUSE, MULTIPLE POOLS, MULTIPLE AMENITIES, AND THAT WILL BE THE PRIMARY AMENITY CENTER FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
ONE THING TO NOTE, JUST I'LL CALL IT BRIDGWATER NORTH.
THIS IS DISCONNECTED FROM BRIDGWATER.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LIKE A 20 FOOT TRACK THAT'S BETWEEN THE PROPERTY.
SO ALL THIS IS WITHIN THE BRIDGWATER.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ADDING THE SEAL TRACK TO THE NORTHEAST.
ORIGINAL BRIDGWATER HAD JUST ONE CROSSING.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE HAYES FOR CONNECTIONS. YOU'LL SEE ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES NOW WE'VE ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE CROSSING THAT CREEK THREE TIMES NOW.
WE WANT TO BRING BRIDGWATER EAST OF THE CREEK INTO THIS AND HAVE MULTIPLE POINTS OF CONNECTION. SO THAT WAY THE RESIDENTS FUNNEL TRAFFIC THROUGH.
INTO OUR AMENITIES AND OPEN SPACES.
JUST A SUMMARY OF KIND OF WHAT WE PROMISED IN THE ORIGINAL PD, WHAT WAS BUILT? ENTRY FEATURES.
YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU'VE SEEN IT. OUR WHOLE GOAL IS WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THIS, WE WANT TO HAVE WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE AMENITIES.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S THE LARGE LAKE IN THE BACK. THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACE.
AND WE WANT PEOPLE, WHEN THEY DRIVE IN TO SEE THEIR NEIGHBORS, SEE THEIR RESIDENTS, SEE THE PEOPLE SITTING ON THE FRONT PORCHES. NOT A BUNCH OF THIN WALLED AND SCREEN WALL.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT SAME DESIGN PRINCIPLE AND INTEGRATE THAT INTO THE SEAL EDITION. THIS IS THE ENTRY, THE TOWER THAT'S NESTLED THERE, KIND OF MID-BLOCK AS YOU DRIVE IN THE FIRST PHASE AMENITY ELEMENT HERE, WHICH IS MORE ABOUT OUTDOOR LIVING, GATHERING SPACES AND SO FORTH.
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AGAIN, WE'RE ADDING TO Y'ALL'S POPULATION BECAUSE OUR AMENITIES ARE SO WELL DESIGNED AND PEOPLE ENJOY USING THEM.SO IT WAS FUNNIER AT THE LAST PRESENTATION.
BUT HERE'S THE MONEY. SO THIS IS WHAT IS THE FINAL DESIGN.
SO WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THE CLUBHOUSE.
THIS IS A LARGE AIR CONDITIONED SPACE, BIG OPEN AIR GATHERING SPACE IN THE BACK.
SO MORE OF KIND OF THE FAMILY POOL, THE LOUD POOL, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT THAT YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE TIDE POOL AREA A LAP POOL, SPORTS COURTS, BATHROOMS IDEA IS WE WANT TO DESIGN THIS.
IT'S YEAR ROUND. SO WHEN THE POOLS ARE CLOSED, THERE'S STILL PEOPLE CAN USE THESE SPACES. MULTIPLE PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE THE CLUBHOUSE, THE PLAYGROUNDS AND THE FACILITIES.
THIS DOESN'T JUST SIT KIND OF STERILE WHEN WHEN THE POOLS ARE OPEN, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE, THE HUB AND THE CENTRAL NUCLEUS OF, OF THE PROJECT. HERE'S VIEWS REALLY WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT SOIL CONSERVATION LAKE AND LOOKING WITH THE INTEGRATING THAT OPEN SPACE INTO THE PROJECT AS WELL.
LARGE OVERLOOK UP HERE ON THE HILLTOP AS WELL, WHICH WILL BE A GREAT AMENITY AS WELL.
A COUPLE RENDERINGS OF THE AMENITY CENTER AS WELL, AND SO DIDN'T TO. THE MAIN POINT OF THE PRESENTATION IS OBVIOUSLY THE SEAL PIECE.
WE ALWAYS LOOK TO THE NATURAL AMENITIES. YOU SAW BRIDGEWATER. WE'RE TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON WHAT IS OUT THERE, WHAT THE LAND IS TELLING US TO DO.
WE HAVE THE LARGE SOIL CONSERVATION LAKE.
THERE'S ANOTHER POND. I THINK IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL POND ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT KIND OF LIES VERY NORTHEAST CORNER OF BRIDGEWATER.
AND THAT FENDER OF, OF, OF, OF DRAINAGE WAY KIND OF EXTENDS UP NORTHEAST INTO THE PROJECT.
SO WE WANTED TO TAKE THOSE GREEN FENDERS LIKE YOU SEE IN BRIDGEWATER.
AND INSTEAD OF TURNING OUR BACK TO THOSE, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT IS REALLY WHERE LOTS ARE FRONTING ON THESE OPEN SPACES, BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR MAIN KIND OF GREEN TRAIL CORRIDORS. SO PEOPLE WILL WALK OUT, WE'LL SEE THE OPEN SPACE.
EVERYBODY GETS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NATURAL BEAUTY AND AMENITIES.
THIS IS THE THE PLAN. SO WE'VE TAKEN BASICALLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, KIND OF RECONFIGURE KIND OF BLUR THE LINE OF WHERE THE SEAL EDITION WAS IN KIND OF TIED IN THE RESIDENTIAL USES UTILIZING HAYES NOW IS A 90 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AS THE BARRIER FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO ADD THE TWO ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS ACROSS THE CREEK.
AND SO THAT WAY, THE SINGLE FAMILY COMPONENTS DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK. WITH THE CONNECTIONS AND THE INTEGRATION OF THE OPEN SPACES, IT WE FEEL THAT UNIFIES THE THE EASTERN PART INTO BRIDGEWATER MORE APPROPRIATELY.
SO WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HAS TURNED OUR BACK TO HAYES.
THAT IS REALLY KIND OF THE POINT.
WE'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE THAT AND BRING THE RESIDENTIAL IN AND THEN LETTING THE INDUSTRIAL HAPPEN BACK ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT.
SO THE ORIGINAL ZONING HAD, THIS WAS THE WATCH OHATCHEE ISD STOOL SITE THAT WAS EARMARKED FOR THEM SINCE THEN THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THAT THE ORIGINAL ZONING HAD COMMERCIAL HERE AND THE REST WAS TOWNHOMES.
WE DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH TOWNHOMES BEING THERE.
RIGHT ON. 287 SO WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT TRANSITION BY SHIFTING THE TOWNHOMES INTO THE SCHOOL SITE AND THEN TAKING THIS COMMERCIAL PIECE AND MAKING THAT THE MIXED USE COMPONENT. ONE THING WE HAVE DISCOVERED THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS TEXDOT HAS SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGNS, AND RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS THE OFF RAMPS.
FUTURE OFF RAMPS WILL BE HAPPENING HERE JUST IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH.
AND SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD A ROAD CONNECTION RIGHT HERE ON OUR ON OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARY WITH US IN THE CHURCH.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, OF A SLOWING DOWN TURN MOVEMENT.
YOU CAN OFF THE FRONTAGE ROAD INTO THE PROJECT.
SO WE FEEL THE COMMERCIAL USE IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR MAJOR REGIONAL RETAIL IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING DOWN AT WALNUT GROVE AND.
287. WE'RE STILL KEEPING THE STANDALONE COMMERCIAL TRACT IN THE FRONT.
AND SO WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE STILL APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL USES THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE WHATABURGER AND SO FORTH OUT THERE.
SO WE STILL THINK THE COMMERCIAL THERE IS VALID FOR YOUR STANDARD COMMERCIAL USES.
THE MIXED USE WILL SEE WHAT WE REALLY THINK IS YOUR BEST COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE HERE AT THESE CORNERS WHERE PEOPLE CAN TURN IN, THEY HAVE EASY ACCESS, THEY HAVE VISIBILITY.
SO YOU'LL SEE ON THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT'S WHY WE EARMARKED THOSE THREE BUILDINGS AS THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES THERE.
IF THE MARKET DOES DEMAND A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
BUT WE FEEL THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO FIRST WITH THEN THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, THE MIXED USE BEING MORE KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
IN SUMMARY, THE THE ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE 745 UNITS.
SO OVERALL, 2870 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
THAT'S JUST 30 UNITS PER ACRE GROSS ON THAT ORANGE BUBBLE OR BOUNDARY, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE WE'VE YIELDED JUST UP THE STREET.
WE'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE AT 287 AND 360.
SO ALL IN ALL, YOU'RE AT NINE.
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THE GOAL OF OUR MIXED USE IS WE GOT FEEDBACK FOR THE LAST LAST WORKSHOP WITH YOU ALL WAS NOT JUST STANDARD MULTIFAMILY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, MORE MIXED USE. AND SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT HANOVER HAS BUILT RECENTLY.THIS IS SOUTHGATE JUST UP THE STREET TO 87 AND THREE 60.
THIS HAS SAME COMPONENTS HORIZONTAL MIXED USE.
THE IDEA IS HERE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG 287 FRONTAGE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A MIXED USE HERE.
THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE THAT WAS BUILT. FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, THREE STORY RESIDENTIAL.
ABOVE GROUND FLOOR IS LIKE THE CLUB FACILITIES, RETAIL AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE LEASING OFFICES AND SO FORTH.
SO IT HAS THAT COMMERCIAL PRESENCE AS YOU DRIVE IN. IT KIND OF FRONTS ON THIS GREEN LAWN, WHICH IS EARMARKED LONG TERM, MAYBE A RESTAURANT OR TWO.
BUT THE IDEA IS WE WANT TO SHIFT THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE STREET. SO YOU HAVE THAT VERY STRONG PEDESTRIAN STREETSCAPE.
YOU HAVE PARKING OR PERPENDICULAR PARKING, A NICE GREEN BELT.
AS YOU CAN SEE AS YOU WALK THROUGH, YOU HAVE THE STREET TREES, THE STREET LIGHTS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING ON THE STREET, BUT ALSO REALLY TUCKED IN THE BACK OF THE PROJECT AND USING THE BUILDINGS AS KIND OF THE, THE KIND OF METAPHORICALLY THERE SERVING AS THE FENCES.
AND SO THE PARKING MAJORITY OF THE PARKING IS HIDDEN BACK BEHIND.
WE'LL HAVE TUCK UNDER PARKING JUST LIKE THIS.
THE FIRST FLOOR ON THE BACK OF THE UNITS TYPICALLY HAS TUCKED UNDER PARKING.
AND SO YOUR FIRST FLOOR, YOU'LL HAVE USUALLY RETAIL AND GARAGES.
AND THEN WHERE YOU HAVE JUST ALL RESIDENTIAL, YOU'LL HAVE THREE AND A HALF FLOORS OF RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THE FIRST FLOOR IS TYPICALLY ABOUT HALF OF IT'S TAKEN UP WITH TUCK UNDER GARAGES.
SO THE IDEA ALSO WITH THIS IS THAT THE BUILDINGS KIND OF SERVE AS THE GATEWAYS.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE ARCHITECTURALLY, WE'LL DESIGN THESE WHERE IT KIND OF READS AS THE AS THE ENTRIES INTO THE PROJECT AS WELL, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THIS FRAMEWORK PLAN, WHICH IS THIS AGAIN TURNED NORTH IS TO THE UP TO 87.
THAT OFF RAMP WOULD BE COMING OFF.
KIND OF OFF THE SCREEN. HERE'S THE CHURCH FACILITY. SO THAT'S WHY WE SHIFTED THIS STREET HERE. INTERNAL.
SO WE THINK YOUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE PEOPLE TURNING IN HERE.
THOSE PAINT BUILDINGS WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD LOOK AT THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL.
AND THEN THE WHITE BUILDINGS WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR PREDOMINANTLY ALL MULTIFAMILY AND HAVING AROUND TUCK UNDER GARAGES IN THE BACK.
THESE BUILDINGS ARE SHIFTED BACK. WE DO HAVE SOME EASEMENTS THERE.
ALSO, WE'VE ANTICIPATED WHAT THE FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY WILL TAKE WILL BE FOR FRONTAGE ROADS ON 287. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THERE'S KIND OF A BIGGER SETBACK HERE.
THOSE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE SET BACK PROBABLY ABOUT 6080FT FARTHER BACK THAN THEY TYPICALLY WOULD BE BECAUSE OF THOSE EASEMENTS AND FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY DATING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE TRY TO PUSH THE BUILDINGS TO THE CORNERS. MAJORITY OF YOUR SURFACE PARKING IS EITHER HAPPENING ON THESE STREETS.
THAT CREATES THE NICE STREETSCAPE STREET TREES OR THAT'S TUCKED BACK IN THE BACK IN THE SURFACE PARKING AREAS.
AND THEN THE TOWNHOME USES IS JUST TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS A GREAT TRANSITION, WE THINK, INTO THE IN THE HEART OF OF BRIDGEWATER AND THE SINGLE FAMILY USES.
SO WHAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED IS A MINIMUM IN THE PAINT ZONE, THE MINIMUM OF 30,000FT² OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, WHETHER IT'S A LITTLE BIT IN ALL THREE BUILDINGS, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, 20,001 AND FIVE AND 5 OR 10, TEN, TEN, WHATEVER IT IS THERE WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 30,000 IN THOSE SPECIFIC BUILDINGS IF THE MARKET, YOU KNOW, DESIRES MORE.
I THINK THERE'S THE ABILITY TO DO MORE.
I STILL THINK WE STILL THINK THAT THE POTENTIAL RETAIL DEMAND IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE STRONGEST IN THESE THREE BUILDINGS WHILE WE STILL HAVE THE ADJACENT STANDARD COMMERCIAL TRACT TO OUR NORTH AS WELL.
SO 30 UNITS PER ACRE JUST ON THE GROSS ACREAGE.
BUT YOU'LL SEE WE ALSO TRY TO INTEGRATE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S EXISTING UTILITIES, I THINK IT'S A WATER LINE OR A, OR A SEWER LINE. I'M NOT SURE UTILIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, GREEN SPACE AS YOUR TRAIL CORRIDOR CONNECTIONS.
SO SOME UNITS WILL BE FRONTING ON THAT AS WELL.
SO TRYING TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE AMENITY OF THE PROJECT AS WELL.
WE DID JUST SOME SPATIAL, YOU KNOW, MODELING 3D MODELS, PLAYING ON THE COMPUTER JUST TO HELP YOU VISUALIZE WHAT IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING LOOK LIKE ALONG. 287 YOU KNOW, WITH THE DESIGN SPEED OF WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DRIVE VERSUS WHAT PEOPLE DO DRIVE THERE.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SET BACK PROBABLY ABOUT 130FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY. AND THERE WILL BE MORE RIGHT OF WAY. THERE ARE SOME UTILITY EASEMENTS ALONG THERE.
YOU SEE, THE RED IS KIND OF WHERE WE EARMARKED THOSE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL BEING KIND OF ON THE CORNERS OF THE MAIN, THE MAIN ENTRY BUILDINGS.
THIS IS A VIEW OF, IF YOU'RE ON 287, KIND OF LOOKING UP OF WHERE THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY IS. AND THEN ONCE THE FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY HAPPENS, HOW THOSE WOULD BE SET BACK.
HERE'S ANOTHER ANGLE THEN THIS IS YOUR THE PINK PARCEL.
THIS IS JUST YOUR STANDARD PROBABLY SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL USES.
THAT'S THAT COMMERCIAL PARCEL JUST NORTH OF THE MIXED USE.
SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS OR PATHS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THOSE ARE JUST INDICATIVE OF WHAT THAT TYPICAL BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL. SO YOU KIND OF GET A SENSE OF SCALE, HOW IT KIND OF FITS IN OVERALL DENSITY.
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LIKE CLYDE SAID, 3.46.THE WAY WE LOOKED AT THAT IS TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS EXCLUDING THE FLOODPLAIN.
THIS IS PROJECT WIDE BRIDGE WATER PROJECT WIDE FLOODPLAIN, TOTAL MAXIMUM UNITS, WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE MATCH 30 UNITS PER ACRE ON THE MIXED USE.
IN SUMMARY WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT BRIDGEWATER A FEW YEARS AGO, THE ZONING WE ANTICIPATED THE VALUE CREATION WAS GOING TO BE 750 TO $950 MILLION THROUGH PHASES TWO B, WHICH IS THAT THOSE WHITE ZONES I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, THE FIRST TWO PHASES OF THE PROJECT, 967 LOTS.
THE VALUE WOULD BE OVER $500 MILLION.
AND WE ESTIMATE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SEAL TRACT THAT THE VALUE PROJECTION WILL BE $1.7 BILLION. IN SUMMARY, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS BASICALLY TAKING THE BRIDGEWATER PD DOCUMENT.
SAME STANDARDS. WE HAD OPEN SPACE, THE PARKS, THE AMENITIES, ALL THE ALL THE STANDARDS WE HAD TO DO, AND JUST EXTENDING THOSE AND APPLYING THOSE TO THE SEALED LAND.
SO WE REVISED THE ROADWAY EXHIBITS AND SO FORTH.
WE WENT THROUGH AND AND BASICALLY TAKING WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND JUST APPLYING IT TO THE, TO THE SEALED PIECE, TO MAKING OVERALL BRIDGEWATER A LITTLE BIT LARGER, BUT MAINTAINING ITS QUALITY THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. IN SUMMARY, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS.
YEAH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS.
COMMENTS. RUSS CLARIFICATION I CAN'T REMEMBER.
ARE WE DOING OPAQUE OR NON OPAQUE FENCING BEHIND HOUSES ON OPEN SPACE.
WE'RE PROPOSING WHAT WE DID IN THE FIRST ONE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE JUST KEPT IT CONSISTENT HERE.
IS HAVING IT TO BE THE IRON FIST THING THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
JUST TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH THE THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW NEXT TO OPEN SPACES, THERE'S TUBULAR STEEL OR CORRECT FIVE FOOT TALL TUBULAR STEEL. THAT'S DEEP RESTRICTED.
YEAH. I JUST, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THIS ONE LAYS OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF LITTLE PEEKABOO AND CUT THRUS IN THERE. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE WHEN THERE WAS SOME OF THESE NARROW CORRIDORS WITH TRAILS, YOU KNOW, FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.
SO PEOPLE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WERE IN A SECLUDED AREA.
I MEAN, THIS SITE PLAN REALLY DOESN'T CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO I WOULD ALMOST BE IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THAT TO BE OPAQUE FENCING ON THOSE LOTS THAT BACK UP TO OPEN SPACES.
WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR PRIVACY. AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE'S BACK YARD. WHAT'S BACK THERE? YEAH. AND THE ONLY PLACES WE REALLY HAVE IT BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE WE TRIED TO DO IN MOST OF OUR PLANS IS LIKE AARON WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER, IS NOT HAVE ANYTHING BACK UP TO OPEN SPACES, BUT SOME PLACES YOU CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE TOPO THAT WE HAVE HERE. RIGHT.
SO YOUR ONLY SPACES HERE WOULD BE THESE LOTS HERE.
AND THIS LITTLE WHERE'S THE OTHER LITTLE PIECE BACK HERE.
RIGHT. YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO ALSO IS, IS MAYBE GIVE THEM THE OPTION IF THEY WANTED TO DO PRIVACY, THEY COULD IF THEY WANTED, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE LIKE HAVING LOOKING OUT INTO THE CREEK. AND SO, BUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND IN THESE AREAS, I WOULD SAY COUNCILMAN THAT THIS AREA MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE TO KEEP OR ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN IF THEY WANT TO CHOOSE IT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, THIS IS A RAVINE. AND SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING, BUT, BUT THIS STREET DOES LOOK AT THAT. SO MAYBE THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING BY, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD.
OR IF THERE'S A DIRECT CLOSE LIKE IN THE GAS GAS EASEMENT CORRIDOR IN THE FIRST PHASE, THAT'S ONE PLACE WHERE, WHERE IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
AND REALLY, I THINK IF WE LOOK TO THAT NEXT LITTLE NOTE OVER THERE ESPECIALLY ON YOUR TRAIL PLAN RIGHT THERE THAT, THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN AREA OF CONCERN TO ME BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE YOUR TRAIL RUN KIND OF RIGHT BEHIND THOSE HOUSES. SURE. THE ONES YOU POINTED OUT KIND OF OVERLOOKING THE CREEK AREA.
I DON'T SEE A TRAIL PROPOSED BEHIND THOSE HOMES EITHER.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY MORE YOU KNOW, WHERE AS WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, ESPECIALLY THE WAY EVEN IN THE SECTION WHERE THE TRAIL IS BEHIND THE HOUSE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S KIND OF THERE'S A CONNECTION FOR THE TRAIL, BUT THERE'S ALSO TWO MORE LIKE GAPS THAT ARE KIND OF OPEN SPACE AREAS ALLOWING FOR MOVEMENT, YOU KNOW, INTO AND OUT OF AND VISIBILITY.
AND SO I THINK THAT KIND OF ALLEVIATES SOME OF THAT SAFETY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SINGLE LOADED STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DRAW, YOU KNOW, THAT CREATES A HIGHLY VISIBLE CORRIDOR THERE.
SO I THINK BALANCING THAT SECURITY ASPECT, THE ESTHETIC ASPECT AND THE SOMETIMES GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
ASPECT. RIGHT. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE.
BUT WHEN WE DO FLEXIBILITY, THEN IF WE HAVE WOOD AND STEEL AND THEN WOOD AND THEN STEEL, IT KIND OF CAN CREATE A VERY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DYNAMIC.
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WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.AND SO YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT FENCING PLAN AND TAKE THOSE AREAS WHERE WE ARE PRODUCING OR PROPOSING STEEL TUBULAR AND KIND OF LOOK AT THAT BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES IN THE DOCUMENT WHERE IF WE DON'T HAVE A TRAIL BACK THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE CAN LIKE IN THAT RAVINE AREA, BUT WHEN IT'S SOMETHING MORE TIGHT OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK IN THEIR BACKYARD, WE'LL MAKE IT. YEAH.
YEP. MIKE. YES. I'LL THRUST MYSELF PAST THE 3.5 DENSITY RATIO, AND I'LL WORK MY WAY PAST THAT.
OKAY. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF YOUR MIXED USE AND OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON THE FRONTAGE OF HIGHWAY 287? WHAT'S THE OVERALL. SO IN THE MIXED USE, WE'RE PROPOSING A MAX HEIGHT OF FOUR STORIES OR 50FT BECAUSE OF THE PARAPETS ON TOP OF THOSE AND THE FLAT ROOFS, OR EVEN IF YOU DO A AN ANGLED PITCHED ROOF.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IN THE ORIGINAL BECAUSE WE DON'T IN THE MIXED USE, THERE'S NO FRONT PADS. IT'S ALL WITHIN THE BUILDING.
SO THERE'S NO STANDALONE COMMERCIAL IN THE, IN THE RED PORTION IN THE COMMERCIAL.
I THINK THAT DEFAULTS BACK TO ZONING REGULATION FOR SEE A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
AND SO WHATEVER IS ALLOWED IN THERE IS ALLOWED IN THERE.
AND TYPICALLY WHEN WE BUILD RETAIL BUILDINGS, WHICH WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR THAT WOULD BE LIKE A RETAIL STRIP BUILDING OR A SHOPPING MALL SHOPPING CENTER.
THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ABOUT 35 TO SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE AS YOU GET UP TOP.
SO THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE NOT MUCH TALLER THAN WHAT YOUR ACTUAL ORDINANCE ALLOWS IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
SO, SO SO WHERE I'M HEADED WITH THIS IS WHEN WE LOOK AT SWFA ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S 35FT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, CORRECT. I CAN THINK OF THE NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD HERE AT THE DAIS OF THE HEARTBURN, EVEN WITHIN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, WAY BACK IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OF BUSINESSES, EVEN WANTING TO HAVE BUILDINGS OVER 35FT.
AND THIS COUNCIL JUST HAVING A LOT OF HEARTBURN OVER THAT, EVEN SIGNAGE WANTING TO BE OVER 35FT.
MY OTHER CONCERN IS, IS WITH THAT BEING RIGHT ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, WE'VE LITERALLY JUST PASSED THE HIGHWAY.
IF WE'RE COMING FROM WAXAHACHIE, WE'VE GONE PAST THE AIRPORT, WE'RE COMING INTO MIDLOTHIAN.
THE FIRST THING WE'RE SLAMMED INTO IS, I FEEL IS KIND OF WHAT I FEEL, HONESTLY, FROM WHEN I VISITED WITH FOLKS AT MIDLO FEST THE OTHER DAY, AND I WAS AMAZED BY THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT HAVE MOVED HERE FROM, SAY, MANSFIELD. AND THEY'RE MOVING HERE, AS THEY PUT IT, TO GET AWAY FROM THE CITY THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE HUDDLING EVERYTHING UP ON THE HIGHWAY AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN THE CITY AND THEY WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT.
AND AS I LOOK UP AND DOWN THE HIGHWAY, SWFA IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
IF WE TRAVEL ON DOWN THE ROAD ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU HAVE THE THE PRITCHETT DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE SOME STRIP CENTER YOU HAVE.
AND SO YOU HAVE SOME 1 TO 2 STORY ACTIVITY.
ON THE NORTH SIDE, YOU HAVE ENNIS BUSINESS FORMS. YOU TRAVEL ON DOWN, YOU HAVE SOME MEDICAL FACILITY THAT'S ABOUT ONE AND A HALF STORY ALL THE WAY DOWN THE HIGHWAY.
I REALIZE THERE'S SOME OF THAT IN WAXAHACHIE ARE OF A TALLER APPROACH.
AS YOU'RE MENTIONING. I REALIZE THERE'S SOME OF THAT IN MANSFIELD OF A MUCH TALLER.
THEY'RE REALLY BECOMING MORE ARLINGTON LIKE CRAMMING THE, THE THE, THE BUSINESSES AND THE FOUR STORY STRUCTURES RIGHT UP ON THE HIGHWAY.
SO THAT THAT I'M I CAN'T BE A FAN OF.
I'M LOOKING FOR US TO SOFTEN THAT UP.
I MEAN, THE MAXIMUM I COULD KIND OF GO ALONG WITH WOULD POSSIBLY, IF WE COULD DO SOME FORM OF THREE STORY, GET CLOSER TO THAT 35 FOOT HEIGHT ALONG THE HIGHWAY. SO WE'RE NOT GETTING SLAMMED WHEN WE'RE COMING INTO ONE OF OUR MAJOR GATEWAYS COMING INTO OUR CITY. WE COULD ARGUE A LITTLE BIT TO GO PAST THIS, THAT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS UP TOWARDS THE HOSPITAL.
YES. BUT I VIEW THAT AS MORE OF OUR LIGHTHOUSE POINTS OF OUR CITY.
YOU HAVE THE HOSPITAL, YOU HAVE THE YOU HAVE THE STADIUM, THE CONVENTION CENTER, PROPOSED HOTELS, AS WE KNOW, THAT COULD POSSIBLY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE HIGH POINT.
THAT'S THE PIVOTAL POINT OF OUR WHOLE REGION.
I DON'T REALLY WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THAT FAR OUT.
SO IS THERE A WAY WE COULD PUSH THAT MORE TOWARDS A 35 FOOT RANGE AND THEN EVEN PICK IT UP BEHIND THAT. SO WE'RE NOT GETTING SLAMMED RIGHT ON THE HIGHWAY.
WELL, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS WE ACTUALLY WERE LOOKING AT DOING THAT IN REVERSE.
AND BECAUSE I TALKED TO SOME OTHER WE EXTENDED INVITATIONS TO ALL Y'ALL TO MEET.
AND I ACTUALLY HEARD MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THE OTHER WAY THAT THEY SEE IT BETTER BEING TALLER ON THE FRONT. BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO A THREE STORY WITH COMMERCIAL ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR, IN SOME AREAS, YOU LOSE A LOT OF DENSITY AND, AND THEREFORE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN'T GET THAT THAT'S THERE THAT YOU NEED FOR
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THOSE SHOPPING CENTERS OR THAT RETAIL SPACE TO SURVIVE.BUT, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR VIEW.
WE SEE IT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER TO HAVE THE TALLER BUILDINGS UP FRONT BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY KIND OF SHIELD SOME OF THE NOISE FROM THE HIGHWAY FROM THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BACK. BUT, BUT I, THIS, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
THIS BACK ROAD BETWEEN THE TOWNHOME AND MIXED USE IS WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BUILDINGS.
FRONTING ON. THAT WOULD BE THREE STORY.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE FOUR STORY UP FRONT WITH THE RETAIL.
TRANSITION DOWN TO THE BACK WOULD BE THREE STORY, THEN TWO STORY TOWNHOMES AND THEN TO SINGLE FAMILY.
SO, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M STUDYING IS YOU WOULD STILL BE SHIELDING THE NOISE BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE THREE STORIES ALONG THE HIGHWAY.
YOU WOULD QUICKLY FALL BACK TO A FOUR STORY TO BE STILL SHIELDING AS YOU'RE TALKING.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH WITH THAT APPROACH.
THE ONLY OTHER QUICK QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR YOU IS ON THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WILL BE AS MANY YEARS AS IT TAKES TO GET THAT FUTURE ARTERIAL THAT'S GOING TO FEED THAT INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT.
HOWEVER MANY YEARS THAT IS TO TIE THAT UP MORE IN THE AIRPORT REGION, THAT THAT REGION IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL THAT ARTERIAL HAPPENS, BECAUSE YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO BRING ALL THOSE TRUCKS THROUGH THAT RESIDENTIAL.
CORRECT. SO DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA, EVEN ASKING STAFF BEFORE? BECAUSE WHAT WE GOT TO FOCUS ON WAS MY BRAIN'S THINKING, HEY, THIS IS GREAT. WE COULD GET SOME INDUSTRIAL, WE'RE GOING TO GAIN SOME TAX REVENUE OUT OF THIS TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THESE COSTS THAT HOUSE ROOFTOPS BRING. THIS COULD BE MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND DO WE EVEN KNOW HOW LONG BEFORE WE COULD GET SOME INDUSTRIAL.
NO, NO. BUT I MEAN, I THINK IN THIS AREA WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH OF THE AIRPORT AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S SPECULATION, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY GO BEFORE THIS GOES. SO IF YOU REMEMBER.
YES. LAGO VISTA, LAGO VISTA, THAT STUFF THAT WAS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF HAYES WAS COMMERCIAL. WEST SIDE WAS RESIDENTIAL.
I WOULD THINK THAT MIGHT GO FIRST BEFORE THIS GOES, BUT I IT'S PURELY SPECULATION.
SO DO WE KNOW WHAT THE DISTANCE IS ROUGHLY FROM WHERE THAT ENDS TO TIE IN TO.
IS THAT EVEN SOMETHING THE A BOARD COULD LOOK AT IN THE.
I MEAN, IS THAT DOABLE TO GET THIS DONE, TO GET SOME REVENUE FLOWING OUT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL SIDE? A BOARD CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS ASKING QUICKLY, ARE WE TALKING MILES HERE OR ARE WE TALKING THOUSANDS OF FEET TO GET THAT TIED IN? PROBABLY JUST WITHIN. YEAH.
JUST WHAT'S WHAT'S YOUR SECTION RIGHT HERE? LIKE TEN, 10,000 LINEAR FEET. A COUPLE MILES.
OH, WOW. OKAY. SO YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT MAY BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT, BUT I KNOW IT'S MORE THAN ONE. AND THEN IT'S PROBABLY, I WOULD BET IT'S ABOUT EQUIDISTANCE UP TO 1387 TO THE NORTH FROM THEIR NORTHERNMOST POINT A COUPLE MILES, MAYBE 10,000FT.
MIKE, DO YOU HAVE A BETTER ESTIMATE? OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'S A GOOD DISTANCE.
COUNCILMAN. I THINK TO THE THING WE HAVE EXISTING REX ODOM DRIVE THERE.
THAT'S, I THINK ABOUT 400FT OFF OF PROPOSED HASE AT ITS CLOSEST POINT.
SO THERE IS AN EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS VERY MUCH NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
THAT COULD EASILY BE TIED INTO THAT.
IF A USER WAS WAS WILLING TO CONNECT THOSE TWO CORRIDORS TOGETHER.
AND BY THE WAY, I, WE WOULD LOVE TO SELL THAT TO INDUSTRIAL AS WELL.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF TO AND MIKE AND EVERYBODY AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BUILD OUR SECTIONS WHEN, WHEN WE PLAT UP AGAINST IT AND WE HAVE TO BUILD IT.
BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME IN AND, AND DO IT SOONER THAN THAT, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN WORK ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF AND ALIGNMENTS AND WORK WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM STAFF IS THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY, WHICH TAKES A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, FREES UP TRAFFIC GOING ON WALNUT GROVE OR OTHER PLACES JUST TO GET ANOTHER NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR.
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT THERE SOONER OR LATER. OBVIOUSLY, SELFISHLY.
WELL THANK YOU, CHRISTOPHER STAFF, REAL QUICK.
AS IT RELATES TO COUNCILMAN ROGERS COMMENTS THERE THE PORTION THAT'S NOT INSIDE OF THEIR LAND PLAN. THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY SOUTH AND EAST OF THIS PROPERTY ALONG 27.
IF I'M READING OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN CORRECTLY, THAT IS DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL MODULE REGIONAL FOR THE FUTURE.
IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL, BUT CORPORATE, CORPORATE AND OR REGIONAL.
THE MOST SOUTHERN EXTENSION I BELIEVE IS REGIONAL MODULE, WHICH WOULD BE ALONG THE 287 CORRIDOR.
SO YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED TO OCCUR THERE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHENEVER THAT LAND GOES INTO PRODUCTION, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE MIDLOTHIAN CITY LIMITS, WOULD BE REGIONAL.
COMMERCIAL. YES, SIR. AND THEN YOU WOULD GET TO WHERE THEIR MIXED USE TRACK IS, AND THEN YOU WOULD GO TO THE COMMERCIAL AS AS YOU'RE PROGRESSING ALONG TO IT. SO IT WOULD
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NOT IT'S THAT'S NOT RIGHT.ON THE BORDER OF MIDLOTHIAN CITY LIMITS. OKAY.
NO, I THINK I THINK REX ODOM IS THE BORDER REAL CLOSE.
OKAY. I THINK REX ODOM IS OR MAYBE 100 OR 200FT TO THE NORTHWEST.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE JUST PAST. JUST.
YEAH. OKAY. ANNA. CAN WE HONE IN ON THE MIXED USE PEACH SECTION? JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING OF THESE 16 BUILDINGS.
THREE OF THEM ARE THE POTENTIAL VERTICAL MIXED USE.
AND BETWEEN THE THREE OF THEM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE THE 300 ZERO SQUARE FEET OF THE RETAIL. CORRECT.
WE CAN OBVIOUSLY DO MORE THAN THAT.
BUT BUT IF LIKE, LIKE, LIKE IF THE THE MARKET SO IN MIXED USE YOUR, YOUR CHALLENGE IS IS, IS THAT IT'S SOMETIMES YOU DON'T WANT IT TO SIT VACANT, RIGHT? AND SO BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A GHOST TOWN.
AND, BUT YOU KNOW, GUYS THAT HAVE DONE IT WELL IN THEY'D RATHER HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BECAUSE YOU GET A LOT MORE VALUE OUT OF THE COMMERCIAL WHEN YOU GO TO SELL IT AND STUFF. SO, SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER PLACES WHERE WE'VE DONE IT AS A MINIMUM.
AND SOMETIMES THEY DO DO MAYBE SOME LIVE WORK UNITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, TO WHERE YOU HAVE MORE OF THE FEEL.
AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU ALL HAVE TO DO THIS. I'M JUST SAYING WHERE WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCE IN DOING IT IS THAT IT'S GREAT TO LOOK.
BUT EVEN IF YOU CAN MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S MORE JUST WALKABLE, LIKE THE UNITS THAT WE SHOWED YOU GUYS OVER IN SOUTHGATE WHERE WE DID IT.
WE ALSO HAD UNITS THAT HAD GROUND FLOOR WALK OUT DIRECTLY FROM.
SO YOU, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A VERY URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE. BUT BUT YOU'RE CORRECT. YES. MINIMUM 30 IN 1 OR ALL OR DISPERSED IN THOSE BUILDINGS.
AND THEN SO THE OTHER 13 ARE JUST APARTMENTS.
YES. CORRECT. AND THEY WOULD BE MADE TO LOOK TO LIKE WHERE LIKE THIS BUILDING HERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE LIKE SOME OF THESE AREAS BECAUSE THIS IS DEDICATED JUST TO RETAIL. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE, THE CLUB, THE LEASING, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, WHICH ALSO GIVE IT A GOOD COMMERCIAL FEEL.
YOU COULD HAVE THAT FACING HERE, AND THEN THESE UNITS WOULD BE DIRECTLY WALKING OUT ONTO THE STREETSCAPE, KIND OF LIKE.
AM I GOING THE WRONG WAY? OOPS, THERE IT IS.
LIKE RIGHT HERE. THIS PICTURE.
THEY HAVE LITTLE YARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT GO OUT TO WHERE YOU CAN WALK DIRECTLY TO YOUR CAR. OR IF YOU'RE A VISITOR, YOU KNOW, GET IN AND OUT LIKE THAT.
SO AND MAYBE THIS IS TO STAFF SO AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE AGREED UPON MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY BEING OVER OUR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT NUMBERS.
YES, MA'AM. THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ALREADY OVER NUMBERS.
NO, THE WAY WE BROKE IT DOWN, IF YOU RECALL, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND STANDALONE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF OURS ARE VERTICAL MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED AND THEN ASSISTED LIVING. SO.
RIGHT. AND SO WE DID PULL MOST RECENTLY ON OUR LAST RETREAT, MAYBE WE PULLED OUT VERTICAL MIXED USE OF OUR PERCENTAGE.
WELL, IT IS A PERCENTAGE, BUT WE PULLED THAT OUT OF THE STANDALONE MULTIFAMILY. YES, MA'AM. RIGHT. SO THIS WHOLE THING IS DEEMED VERTICAL.
MIXED USE BUILDINGS 16 ARE VERTICAL MIXED USE.
YEAH. IT'S A LITTLE THAT'S HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT IT. YES. IT'S VERY MISLEADING BECAUSE THE ENTIRE PEACH AREA IS BEING CALLED MIXED USE AND IT'S NOT.
SO THREE OF 16 BUILDINGS ARE VERTICAL MIXED USE WHICH WE LIKE.
13 BUILDINGS ARE APARTMENTS WHICH WE HAVE SAID WE DO NOT WANT TO DO.
SO I'M HAVING TROUBLE RECONCILING THAT.
HOLD ON. CAN YOU CLARIFY? IS THAT THAT'S ACCURATE? YEAH. YEAH. YOU BET. SO THE PINK BUILDINGS ARE THE MIXED USE.
SO THOSE HAVE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL.
THESE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE STANDALONE MULTIFAMILY.
BUT WE ARE REGARDING ALL THIS AS VERTICAL MIXED USE.
ARE WE CALLING THE ENTIRE THING VERTICAL MIXED USE OR MIXED USE WHEN IT'S NOT? WELL, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ONLY.
AND THEY CAN SPEAK BETTER TO IT, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH COMMERCIAL YOU CAN SUSTAIN WITH THE MULTIFAMILY THAT'S THERE NOW.
YOU KNOW, JUST TO THE NORTH WEST OR YEAH, NORTHWEST, WE HAVE ALL THAT COMMERCIAL THERE THAT'S JUST NOT IN THIS.
AND I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THEY CAN SPEAK BETTER TO IT, BUT THERE IS A RATIO THAT IF YOU GO OVER THAT, YOU JUST I MEAN, YOU DON'T YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SUSTAIN THE RETAIL, I DON'T THINK. SO HOW ARE YOU COUNTING THE LIKE IN OUR FORMULA WE'VE BEEN VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT. HOW ARE YOU.
ARE YOU USING THE WHOLE PEACH AREA.
YES MA'AM. YEAH. SO THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
I MEAN BUT AND I HAVEN'T DONE.
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SO WHAT WE'RE AT CURRENTLY IS WE WERE AT 12.1%.I THINK WE GOT DOWN TO 9.1% MULTIFAMILY.
AND IF YOU. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE WRONG.
IF YOU'RE GOING WITH YOUR DEFINITION, I'M GOING WITH 1065 MIXED USE UNITS.
SO BY THE WAY, WE'RE DEFINING IT HERE.
ALL THESE ARE MIXED USE UNITS.
ONE ALL 101,065 UNITS ARE MIXED USE.
SO THAT LOWERS THAT STANDALONE MULTIFAMILY DOWN.
BUT ALSO WE'RE ADDING 745 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
AND THAT'S LOWERING THAT MULTIFAMILY DOWN AS WELL.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A FIVE PART MULTI FORMULAIC PROPORTION.
YEAH. AND I'M NOT HERE TO BATTLE YOU ON THAT, CLYDE. AND I'M NOT PUTTING THIS ON YOU. NO NO NO.
I'M JUST I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN MY LOGIC.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY THERE, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, 13 BUILDINGS OR APARTMENTS, RIGHT. SO SO LET ME PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.
I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A GREAT EXAMPLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN UP IN PLANO TO LEGACY WEST AND LEGACY EAST AND ALL THOSE THINGS UP THERE AND VERY DENSE AREA WITH A LOT OF JOBS. THAT IS CONSIDERED, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT A VERTICALLY MIXED USE DEAL. THE ONLY BUILDINGS THAT HAVE COMMERCIAL IN IT ARE ON THE SPINE.
ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS DON'T HAVE IT THAT FACE THE MAIN ROADS BECAUSE, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO HAVE IF THE REQUIREMENT TO BE VERTICALLY MIXED USE IS THAT EVERY BUILDING HAD TO HAVE RETAIL IN IT.
WELL, THESE DON'T HAVE A THOROUGHFARE.
THIS HASN'T YOU COULDN'T PUT IT HERE. THERE'S NO PARKING HERE.
YOU COULDN'T DO IT ON THIS ONE.
YOU COULDN'T DO IT BACK HERE. IT WON'T SURVIVE. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IT WHERE IT'S UP FRONT, IN THE MIDDLE OR ON MAJOR TRAVEL ROADS BECAUSE A RETAILER WILL NOT SURVIVE BACK IN OVER HERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO IN AND GET OUT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE SERVICE ORIENTED WHERE NOT JUST CARS COMING HERE, BUT ALSO PEDESTRIANS COMING HERE AND THEY'RE WANTING TO GET THEIR COFFEE OR TO GET THEIR DROP OFF THEIR CLEANING OR WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE. WHAT ARE THE USES IN THERE? AND THEN AND THESE RESIDENTS WALKING IN, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THESE PEOPLE DOWN HERE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW, WE WERE JUST GOING BY DEFINITION OF, OF WHAT BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A TRUE MIXED USE ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE, I THINK WE'VE SAID VERTICAL MIXED USE HAS RETAIL AND LIVING IN THE SAME AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN IT, BUT THERE'S NOT A TRUE ORDINANCE YET.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE WORKING WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE. SO I JUST I HAVE A HARD TIME BECAUSE AS A COUNCIL, WE'VE WORKED A LOT ON THIS.
AND SO WE'VE STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT APARTMENTS AND I TOTALLY GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS LIKE NAVIGATING AROUND IT AND WHAT WOULD SELL AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT WE'VE SAID WE DON'T WANT ANY, SO I DON'T.
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME RECONCILING.
LIKE I CAN EVEN OVERLOOK THE THOUSANDS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WE'RE ADDING.
BUT WHENEVER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SAID WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT PART OF IT.
OKAY. CLERK. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO ALAN AFTER YOU CAN FINISH THAT SIDE OF THE DAIS IF YOU WANT. ALL RIGHT. I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
SO TO ECHO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT MY BUDDY MIKE OVER HERE IS SHARON.
I THINK I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE NOW.
AND JUST TO KEEP IT REAL SIMPLE, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS FINISHED PRODUCT AND DRIVING THROUGH THAT AREA OF THE CITY, I JUST DON'T PICTURE SEEING IT AS SEEING, MIDLOTHIAN. I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE A MANSFIELD OR AN ARLINGTON OR ANY OTHER LARGER, DENSER AREA. THE FOUR STORY PIECE I'VE GOT HEARTBURN OVER PARTICULARLY YOU HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THREE STORIES, THAT'S GOING TO LOWER DENSITY.
AND FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT I'D BE AFTER.
I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE OUT AND ABOUT TALKING TO FOLKS, I MEAN, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY IN THAT SIDE OF TOWN, WHETHER IT BE TRAFFIC OR OTHER CHALLENGES WE'RE FACING IT ALL COMES DOWN TO APPROVING MORE AND MORE DENSITY.
AND FOR ME, I JUST DON'T SEE THIS AS THE AS THE ANSWER.
SO THAT'S MY OFF THE WALL THOUGHTS?
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I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.JOE CAN SLAP ME ON THE FIRST ONE.
BUT ARE YOU, IS IT STILL Y'ALL'S INTENT TO EXPAND THE TOURS? THE THE NO ALPHABET SOUP? NO, NOT THE TOURS. BUT WE ARE EXPANDING THE MMD.
WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT TO JUST SO.
BUT NO, NOT TAKING MORE TAX DOLLARS ON THE ON THE NEW PIECE ON THE 291 ACRES.
OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE TO THE OVERVIEW OF THE WHOLE SITE PLAN? I GUESS THAT ONE. SO ARE THOSE RED LINES I'M ASSUMING PARCELS OR.
YEAH. SO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS A SCHOOL DISTRICT LINE.
THIS RED LINE. OKAY. THE OTHER ONES ARE UTILITY EASEMENTS.
OKAY. ON THE ORIGINAL BRIDGE WATER.
AND I WAS THERE. AND I FEEL BAD BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER. BUT DID Y'ALL HAVE APARTMENTS ON THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENT? NO, WE DID NOT. WE HAD TOWNHOMES.
OKAY. SO AND FORGIVE ME, I DON'T KNOW THE DENSITY OF TOWNHOMES.
IS IT TWO DWELLING UNITS? NO. IT'S 12. 12. 12 UNITS PER ACRE.
OKAY. YEAH. MY WIFE THOUGHT TWO.
I THINK I'M THINKING POPULATION. IS IT IS THAT HOW WE FIGURE THE POPULATION IS 3.2 PER HOUSE AND TWO PEOPLE PER APARTMENT? 3.2 OR 3 TWO POINT. I KNOW THERE WAS LIKE 2.6, 2.7, 2.7. I THINK IT'S 2.7 PER DWELLING UNIT.
AND WITH APARTMENTS I THINK IT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE LESS. YEAH.
SOMEHOW GET A THIRD OF A PERSON.
SO MY, MY THING IS, AND I, AND AGAIN, I VOTED FOR THE FIRST ONE AND I, AND I TOLD YOU GUYS ON, ON THE WORKSHOP, I THINK Y'ALL BUILT AN AMAZING PRODUCT. THANK YOU.
I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, COUNCIL MADE DECISIONS OUT OF A BAD SITUATION OF CARDS WE WERE DEALT, BUT IT TURNED OUT BEAUTIFUL.
I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE DENSITY.
BUT WHEN YOU THROW IN THE APARTMENTS, IT KIND OF JUST REALLY DOESN'T SIT RIGHT WITH ME. AND I KNOW THAT BEFORE SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED HIGHER DENSITY USES ON LOWER DENSITY SITES THAT WERE IN OUR LAND USE PLAN, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET OVER.
AND I'M NOT BASHING COUNCIL BECAUSE I'VE APPROVED THEM TOO. BUT WHEN WE CONSISTENTLY PUT MORE DENSITY THAN WHAT THE LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR, IT STARTS TO QUESTION AT WHAT POINT DOES THE DENSITY STOP WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GOT.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT ROAD, IF I'M NOT WRONG, OR AT LEAST 1000FT PAST THAT ROAD, MAYBE MORE, IT'S HARD TO GET SCALE.
HERE IS OUR CITY LIMIT SIGN LIKE WE CARRY DENSITY TO THE VERY EDGE OF OUR CITY LIMITS.
MAX CAPACITY? WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S ARGUMENTATIVE.
YOU CAN PUT THE WHOLE THING IN APARTMENTS.
SO TO ME IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE. I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT YOU UP ON THE LOT SIZE.
IF IT WASN'T FOR THE APARTMENTS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR ME, IT'S A BALANCING ACT OF HOW DO WE CONTROL THIS DENSITY OVERALL? AND PERSONALLY, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GETTING OUT OF HAND.
AND THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. I MEAN, THAT'S ACROSS THE CITY.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, I JUST, I, IT'S GOT TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER.
IT CAN'T BE LOTS. THE DENSITY RATIO THAT IT'S AT PLUS APARTMENTS.
IT'S GOT TO BE ALL OVER THE DENSITY ON THE RESIDENTIAL.
GIVE ME THE APARTMENTS OR VICE VERSA.
AND IF WE ARE TALKING HEIGHT, I'M NORMALLY THE GUY THAT SCREAMS ABOUT HEIGHT. I DO THINK PERSONAL OPINION.
MIDLOTHIAN HAS A BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE.
IT REALLY DOES. IF YOU GO UP TO OUR HIGHEST PEAKS, YOU CAN SEE COWBOY STADIUM AND A LOT OF ROLL AND AND I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HOLD TO THAT EVERY APARTMENT THAT I'VE SEEN, EXCEPT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ONES, THE NEW ONES OVER BY LOVE'S.
BUT EVERY OTHER ONES, I THINK THE TALLEST ONE I'VE FOUND SO FAR IS THREE STORIES. AND I'M JUST I'M NOT GOING TO COME OFF THAT.
SO, SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I THINK IN OUR FIRST WORKSHOP, WE CAME WITH YOU GUYS TWO PLANS, ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY INDUSTRIAL MIXED USE OR LESS INDUSTRIAL, NO MIXED USE AND HAD MORE LOTS UP HERE IN THIS AREA HERE AND DIDN'T EXPAND THIS PORTION OUT HERE. Y'ALL DIDN'T WANT THAT.
YOU WANTED MORE INDUSTRIAL AROUND THAT.
SO WHEN WE GAVE YOU MORE INDUSTRIAL, WE LOST OUR DENSITY.
WE ALSO GAVE UP THE TOURS THAT FROM A LOT OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE TO CREATE, WHICH WE HAVE IN PHASE ONE AND TALKING WITH STAFF AND THINGS WE SAID, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT SHOWS FOUR STORY BUILDINGS IN THIS TYPE OF DISTRICT. AND SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T GO AGAINST YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO WE DID GIVE UP A LOT WHEN WE CAME TO YOU ALL TO GET THAT DONE, BUT WE NEEDED THIS IN ORDER TO MAKE THE MATH WORK.
IF WE'RE NOT GETTING THE TOURS AND WE'RE GETTING MORE INDUSTRIAL TO WHAT YOU SAID IS
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WHO KNOWS WHEN THE INDUSTRIAL IS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND SO IT BECOMES AN ECONOMIC DEAL AS WELL. AND SO I MEAN, WE WOULD, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO EITHER GIVE UP SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL AND GIVE SOME MORE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL OR GIVE US THE TOURS UP HERE AND TAKE THIS AWAY AND PUT IT BACK TO TOWNHOME AND MAKE THIS SINGLE FAMILY. WE WOULD LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. BUT, BUT THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO MAKE THIS SEAL PURCHASE WORK AND GIVING YOU ALL THESE INDUSTRIALS AND TAKING CARE OF HAYES ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, NOT GETTING THE LOCK COUNT UP JUST TO KEEP THE SAME AS THIS AND NOT GRITTING IT OUT IS BY ADDING SOME MORE VALUE DOWN HERE.AND AND SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF MOLDED IT TO, TO GET TO WHERE WE WERE TONIGHT.
AND AND, AND SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
COUNCILMAN AND, AND THE, THE THREE STORY IS JUST IF WE, IF WE DID THREE STORY, THEN THEN I WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF THE, THE RETAIL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT, THAT JUST, I CAN'T, THAT DOESN'T WORK EITHER FINANCIALLY.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY SEE MIXED USE IN A THREE STORY BUILDING VERY OFTEN.
IT JUST, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE, THE DEVELOPER OF THE BUILDINGS TOO.
SO YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, BUT THAT'S HOW WE'RE, HOW WE GOT HERE. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN TOTALLY.
I'M NOT DISCOUNTING. I'M JUST TRYING TO REGURGITATE SOME, SOME HISTORY AND KIND OF OUR THINKING TOO, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS.
NO, I MEAN, I GET IT. AND TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOU FOLLOWED THE PLAN WE LAID OUT. BUT IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER. IF COUNCIL DIDN'T BREAK AWAY FROM THE PLAN SO MUCH IN OTHER AREAS, IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO SWALLOW THIS PILL. BUT SINCE WE HAVE AND I'VE BEEN ONE OF THEM, I'M NOT BASHING EVERYBODY UP HERE.
I MEAN, I VOTED AGAINST IT MULTIPLE TIMES.
IT MAKES IT HARD TO CARRY DENSITY SO MUCH FURTHER WHEN YOU ADDED IT IN OTHER PLACES.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOUR TOTAL DEVELOPMENT, I'M BALLPARKING WITH THE RATIOS THAT GOT EARLIER.
I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 12000 PEOPLE.
THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S AN IMPACT.
SO I MEAN NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHAT IMPACT CAN YOU LIMIT ON PHASE TWO.
AND SO TO ME IT'S JUST IT'S JUST AN IMPACT SITUATION OF HOW MUCH DENSITY ARE WE GOING TO CRAM FROM THE CENTER OF CITY TO THE VERY EDGE? AND THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT FOR ME AS A COUNCILMAN LIKE THAT'S AN ISSUE.
I CAN'T HAVE 40 FOOT LOTS FROM DOWNTOWN MIDLOTHIAN TO THE CITY LIMIT SIGN.
I MEAN, I WAS ON COUNCIL WITH MIKE WHEN WE SWORE SWORE BACK IN 2020 119 WE WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING UNDER 70 FOOT LOTS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD 9000 LOTS APPROVED ON THE GROUND THAT WERE 40S AND 50S AND 70S, AND WE'RE STILL DOING THEM.
I MEAN, WE'RE CRAMMING THEM IN TOWN AND WE JUST AGAIN, NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT SOMEONE HAS TO DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANY 40 FOOT LOTS.
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT. BUT NO, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO TO ME, IT'S IT'S I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO GIVE ONE ACRE LOTS, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD WANT, BUT I AM ASKING FOR US TO MAYBE FIGURE THIS OUT. AND SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02.
I ACKNOWLEDGED I WAS IN THE WORKSHOPS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WANTING VERTICAL MIXED USE, AND MAYBE WE WERE IDEALISTIC ON WHAT WE THOUGHT THAT MEANT.
BUT AND, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE FAR BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE THE IMPACTS OF WHAT MAKES THAT WORK AND WHAT MAKES THAT FUNCTION MUCH MORE SO THAN I DO OR DID.
AND SO I GET THE CONUNDRUM HERE.
I, I, I AGREE WITH A LOT THAT WAS SAID.
I CAN'T GET BEHIND THE 50 FOOT BUILDINGS.
I CAN'T GET BEHIND THE FOUR STORIES.
I CAN'T GET BEHIND WHAT IS WHAT IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS THAT HAVE SOME MIXED USE IN IT? AND I HATE TO SEND IT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BUT I WOULD BE OPEN TO DOING SOME MORE COMMERCIAL THERE OR EVEN TALKING ABOUT SHORTER TOWNHOMES UP FRONT AND SINGLE FAMILY BEHIND IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.
WAYNE. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE FAR EAST SIDE, I GUESS YOU'D SAY ALL THE WAY DOWN.
WHAT DID Y'ALL SAY THAT WAS IN TERMS OF DISTANCE? ARE YOU SAYING I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE MIXED USE IS DOWN AT THE END OF THE COMMERCIAL. OH, WHAT IS THIS DISTANCE HERE? YEAH. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ENVISION IT EXPLAINED THAT 3000.
BUT IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT YEAH, MAYBE I WAS GOING TO SAY 1500FT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 1500. SO IT WOULDN'T BE HALF A MILE DOWN AND THEN WENT DOWN TO THE NEXT SECTION WHERE THE COMMERCIAL DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THAT.
YEAH. AND THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WALNUT GROVE, OBVIOUSLY. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING PROBABLY,
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I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A MILE, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.AGAIN, I'M GUESSING. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
I'M JUST TRYING TO ENVISION IT MYSELF.
WHAT'S WHAT WHAT TYPE OF DISTANCE COMING DOWN.
AS MISTER ROGERS WAS POINTING OUT IN TERMS OF FIRST SIGHT THAT YOU SEE WOULD BE FOUR STORY, 50FT THE OF COURSE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BACK OVER THERE IN THAT VACANT SPOT. THAT'S THE FIRST THING. YEAH.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE THE OVERPASS IS GOING TO BE TOO. FOR REX OR HAYS IN THE FUTURE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME SOME REALLY INTENSE STUFF ON YOUR FIRST THING WHEN YOU MOVE IN HERE. IF IF IT IF IT GOES THE SAME WAY AS.
YEAH, IF WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.
RIGHT. I MEAN, I'LL PROBABLY BE DEAD AND GONE BY THE END.
BUT BUT YOU KNOW, I COULD, I DON'T HAVE A REALLY BIG HEARTBURN BETWEEN 3 AND 4 STORY. BUT WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT LIKE, LIKE EVEN THE EXAMPLE YOU USE THAT'S OVER IN, OVER IN MANSFIELD A MOMENT AGO, THAT IS WAY OFF OF ANY MAJOR ROAD.
SO TRYING TO ENVISION IF THAT WAS PLACED AT THE CORNER OF 360 AND 287, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE ABRUPT, YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY. WELL, THAT DISTANCE IS SIMILAR TO THIS DISTANCE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FROM THE BUILDINGS TO, TO WHERE I TOOK THAT PICTURE FROM THERE.
THAT'S THE SAME DISTANCE IS FROM THE SURFACE FEATURE ROAD HERE TO THE FIRST BUILDING IN THAT. THAT'S HOW FAR BACK I'M TRYING TO ENVISION THAT BECAUSE IT WAS HARD.
WE WERE TRYING TO DEPICT. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER.
YEAH, IT'S IT'S THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO SIT BECAUSE FOR WHERE THE LANES ARE, IT'S GOING TO SIT WAY, WAY BACK.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT TWO ROWS OF PARKING, YOU GOT THE BUILDING SETBACKS, YOU GOT THE LANDSCAPING, YOU GOT THE 60 TO 80. IT'S ALREADY 100FT OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY NOW UNTIL YOU GET TO THE PARKING. SO IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT IT IS.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE BACK THERE, THE BUILDINGS DON'T LOOK.
YOU KNOW, HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIND ONE IN Y'ALL'S CITY.
AND THIS IS NOT THE BEST EXAMPLE, BUT OVER BY THE CONVENTION CENTER, THERE'S A FOUR STORY HOTEL AND IT SITS BACK OFF THE FREEWAY AND IT LOOKS LIKE A TWO STORY BUILDING. FROM THERE. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IS THAT IT'S, IT'S GOING TO SIT SO FAR BACK THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DRIVING, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE DRIVING NEXT TO IT WHEN YOU'RE ON THE FREEWAY GOING 75 MILES AN HOUR. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT.
I'D SAY MOST PEOPLE, THEY DO GO 75.
BUT ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE THE WHEN THEY CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY WHEN THEY DO THAT AGAIN, WHO KNOWS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. BUT, BUT THE OTHER THING TO MENTION HERE, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED TRAFFIC TOO, IS, IS THAT WE'VE TOLD STAFF, JUST LIKE WE DID IN THE FIRST PHASE, YOU KNOW, WE EXTENDED THE SERVICE ROAD BACK.
AND SO WE WILL EXTEND THE SERVICE ROAD BACK AGAIN TO HERE TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S GETTING DIRECTLY ON THE FREEWAY. THEY'LL GO UP TO A CONTROLLED INTERSECTION THERE AS WELL UP AT WALNUT GROVE.
AND, AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET OUT OF THIS DEAL TOO. I MEAN, YOU CAN GO UP TO WALNUT GROVE HERE, YOU CAN GO TO RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN GET ON THE SERVICE ROAD AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO BUT ANYWAYS, BACK TO YOUR POINT, I KNOW IT SOUNDS REALLY TALL AND IT'S THE FIRST OR THE SECOND THING OR THIRD THING.
THE FIRST THING. SECOND THING YOU'LL SEE IS A CHURCH AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THIS. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO BE SO FAR BACK THAT IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO IT AND LOOKING UP 50FT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. AND SO I HEAR Y'ALL'S CONCERNS TOO.
MIKE, VERY QUICKLY. ONE QUESTION FOR YOU AND ONE FOR STAFF.
WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF YOUR TOWNHOMES, ROUGHLY? THERE ARE TWO STORY WITH A PITCHED ROOF. SO THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IS IT, LIKE 35FT? YEAH. ABOUT 35FT TO THE TOP OF THE PITCH.
QUICK QUESTION. WELL, GOING GOING IN WITH THE INDUSTRIAL.
SO I'M GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO OH SEVEN WHEN I WAS ON P AND Z.
THAT'S THAT'S ABUTTING THE AIRPORT REGION.
YES, SIR. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S DIRECTLY ABOVE THE COMP PLAN.
THAT'S BEEN A VERY LONG STANDING BUFFER ZONE SET UP WAY BACK.
AND WE'VE REALLY NEVER BACKED OFF OF THAT.
RIGHT? NO. AND THAT'S, I MEAN, HIS POINT EARLIER.
THAT'S WHY WE WANT THAT INDUSTRIAL THERE.
I JUST HEARD THE COMMENT MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO THAT IF WE BACK OFF THE FOUR STORIES ON THE HIGHWAY, THEN WE NEED TO GET UP IN THAT INDUSTRIAL ZONE WITH A FEW MORE. AND SO I'M THINKING, WELL, WE HADN'T DONE THAT FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS.
THAT'S WHY THAT DOES, BECAUSE WE HAVE REQUESTED THERE BE A BUFFER.
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THE LAST QUESTION THAT I'VE GOT IS, IS I REALIZE, AND I WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW I PHRASE THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M VERY RESPECTFUL OF WHERE YOU NEED TO GET.YOU'RE LOOKING AT A COMP PLAN THAT'S STATING DENSITY RATIOS AND YOU'RE.
I FEEL AS THOUGH WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LAND MASS, WE'RE SQUEEZING EVERY LAST INCH OUT OF WHAT WE CAN GET.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING, AND WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN SAYS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT, BUT DOES THE COMP PLAN REALLY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS MUCH FLOODPLAIN IN THAT REGION? AND IS IT REALLY THE FAULT OF THE COMP PLAN THAT WE GOT THIS MUCH FLOODPLAIN AND WE CAN'T SQUEEZE EVERYTHING IN THERE WE WANT? AND THE FLOODPLAIN IS THE PROBLEM AS I SEE IT, AM I WRONG? I DON'T KNOW THAT THE FLOODPLAIN IS THE PROBLEM.
I THINK YOU TAKE AN OVERALL DENSITY OF AN AREA AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMP PLAN.
OKAY. BUT THE COMP PLAN YOU'RE FLYING AT LIKE 50,000FT.
SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS. SO IT'S A GROSS DENSITY OF A GENERAL AREA.
AND YOU DON'T IT'S NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE ROAD SURFACES OR HOW WIDE.
WHAT I'M STATING IS WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME LAKES AND WE HAVE CREEK WAY RUNNING THROUGH HERE AND WE HAVE FLOODPLAIN.
IF THOSE WERE NOT THERE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM HITTING 3.5 WITHOUT DOING WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO. OH, IN THE MIXED USE. OKAY. MY POINT IS, AND THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL AMENITIES, BUT THEY ARE INTERRUPTING WHAT THE 500 ZERO FOOT VIEW CALLED THE COMP PLAN THAT HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF FLOODPLAIN IN THAT RANGE.
AS I SAY, IT'S CAUSING THE REAL PROBLEM.
BUT I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING.
ANNA. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO. I WAS ABOUT TO ASK ABOUT A MOTION.
THEN ALLEN ASKED ABOUT A MOTION.
OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? SO. WELL, MY QUESTION WAS, DO YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION? I DON'T WANT TO DESIGN FROM UP HERE.
A MOTION TO DENY ON THE TABLE.
MOTION TO DENY. FROM COUNCILMAN MORMON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS.
ANY AMENDMENTS OFFERED? PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES.
5 TO 2. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OFFER JUST A VERY, VERY BRIEF REPRIEVE FROM THE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THEME THAT WE'VE GOT GOING HERE AND, AND DO ONE QUICK OFF THE REGULAR AGENDA AND THEN COME BACK TO 124.
SO I'M GOING TO GO TO FOR THE LUNDBERG FAMILY THAT'S HERE.
[2026-127 Consider and act upon renaming Ridgeview Park located at 750 Walter Stephenson Road to Leta Lundberg Park in accordance with (Resolution No. 2007-003) the City of Midlothian’s Policy for Naming Parks and Recreational Facilities; Plaques and Markers.]
I WANT TO GO TO 2026. 127.IF SOMEBODY COULD GRAB HEATHER. SHE DISAPPEARED.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON RENAMING RIDGEVIEW PARK, LOCATED AT 750 WALTER STEPHENSON ROAD TO LETA LUNDBERG PARK.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESOLUTION 2007 003, THE THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN'S POLICY FOR NAMING PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, PLAQUES AND MARKERS.
SORRY, HEATHER, I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I WANT TO HONOR THE LUNDBERG FAMILY THAT I KNOW IT'S BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO AT AT OUR LAST PARK BOARD MEETING.
WELL, I SHOULD START WITH SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MR. LUNDBERG BRINGING UP THE DISCUSSION TO RENAME RIDGEVIEW PARK TO.
AND I HOPE I'M NOT SAYING THIS WRONG LETTER.
LUNDBERG PARK. SO WE HAD A MEETING AT OUR PARK BOARD MEETING, AND PARK BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY THAT THEY FELT LIKE THIS WAS A VERY FITTING NAME CHANGE FOR THIS AREA FOR THE BACKGROUND OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT DOES. IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE PARK NAMING POLICIES.
SO IT, IT FITS FOR NAMING PARK SITES FOR PEOPLE AND, AND THEN A PERSON'S NAME.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO CHANGING OF A PARK FACILITY NAME.
AND IT DOES, IT DOES GO IN LINE WITH THAT, THAT PORTION OF OUR ORDINANCE AS WELL.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I ALSO HAVE MR. LUMBERG HERE WHO WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS? OKAY. MR. LUNDBERG, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH MR. LUNDBERG YOU WANT TO WANTS TO COME,
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BUT. MR. LUNDBERG, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS.MY NAME IS KENNETH LUNDBERG, 2830 CLEARVIEW DRIVE IN MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
19. 96. I SOLD THIS PROPERTY TO THE CITY AND I HAD A COUPLE OF STIPULATIONS ON THERE.
I OWNED RIDGEWAY APARTMENTS AT THAT TIME, AND I BUILT AND BEACON RIDGE APARTMENTS.
AND I WAS TALKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER THEN, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A PARK ON ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
AND I SAID, WELL, WE GOT A, I'VE GOT SOME LAND THAT I WAS GOING TO USE FOR POSSIBLY DUPLEXES OR ANOTHER APARTMENT OR SOMETHING, BUT I'LL SELL IT TO THE CITY AND PUT THESE STIPULATIONS ON IT.
AND THEY, THEY WERE PUT ON IT.
AND I SAID, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT NAMED AFTER MY MOTHER, LITA LUNDBERG. AND WE SORT OF HAD AN AGREEMENT THERE THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I WAS BUSY.
I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER COMPANIES THAT I WAS WORKING THAT I OWNED AND WAS WORKING ON ONE IN CEDAR HILL AND ONE IN MIDLAND, ALL THE PROPERTY IN MIDLOTHIAN.
AND SO I JUST NEVER PAID MUCH ATTENTION TO IT UNTIL MAYBE 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO.
AND I LOOKED OVER AND I SAID, OH, GOSH DANG, THIS THING'S IT'S NAMED RIDGEWOOD RIDGEVIEW PARK.
I THOUGHT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NAMED AFTER MY MOTHER. SO ANYWAY I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK.
AND MY FAMILY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE HAVE THE NAME CHANGED.
CHANGE IT TO MY MOTHER'S NAME.
AND WE HAVE A BIG GROUP OF MOTHER'S RELATIVES STILL LIVING HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN.
MY SISTER, MYSELF, MY BROTHER AND A LOT OF NIECES AND NEPHEWS AND THEY'VE ALL GONE TO SCHOOL IN MIDLOTHIAN HIGH SCHOOL AND, AND SO I WOULD, I'M HOPING THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND JUST NAME IT AFTER MY AND DO THE NAME CHANGE. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NO OTHER SPEAKERS.
OKAY. HEATHER, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING BACK UP.
YES. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LUNDBERG OR FOR HEATHER? JUST ONE QUESTION FOR HEATHER.
DID THE PARKS BOARD HEAR THIS CASE? AND IF SO, WHAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION? THEY VOTED YES UNANIMOUSLY FOR THE NAME CHANGE.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST TO RENAME THE PARK TO LITA LUNDBERG PARK. SECOND. MOTION MADE BY MYSELF.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD.
WE HOPE TO SEE THE ENTIRE FAMILY AT THE BIG GRAND OPENING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THERE'LL BE A NEW, BEAUTIFUL SIGN.
THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE. LET ME GET THAT ONE KNOCKED OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW AND OPEN UP ITEM 2026 124.
[2026-124 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the regulations relating to the use and development of 248.246+ acres out of the John Smith Survey, Abstract No. 971, the B.F. Cherry Survey, Abstract 1341, the Jourdan Powers Survey, Abstract No. 838, the Joe T. Powers Survey, Abstract No. 877, the Elbert Newton Survey, Abstract No. 971, and Lot 11X, Block G of Wind Ridge, Phase I, according to the Plat thereof recorded in Instrument No. 2213092 of the Plat Records of Ellis County, Texas; by changing the zoning from Agricultural (A) District to Planned Development District No. 187 (PD-187) for single family uses. The property is generally located on the north side of FM 1387 at Hayes Road. (Case No. Z29-2025-075).]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE REGULATIONS AND USE OF DEVELOPMENT OF 248 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES.PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1387 AT HAYES ROAD, CLYDE. COUNCIL MAYOR. ONCE AGAIN CLYDE, MALIK.
AND THIS IS FOR SOME PROPERTY NORTH OF 1387 ALONG HAYES ROAD.
IN THE GENERAL AREA THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
THIS IS GOING FROM THIS IS GOING TO, IT'S AG GOING TO THE MAJORITY OF IT'S AG GOING TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 187 FOR SINGLE FAMILY FOR USES.
THIS SITE HAS 600 SQUARE FOOT OR 600 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON 248 ACRES.
THE WEST ZONE, WHICH IS THE AREA KIND OF JUST AS AN EXTENSION OF WINDRIDGE.
WINDRIDGE RIGHT HERE HAS APPROXIMATELY 151 LOTS.
AND THEN THE EAST ZONE IS 449 LOTS.
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AND THIS IS, THIS AREA IS LOW DENSITY AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MODULES.WE HAVE THREE BASED ON THOSE FUTURE LAND USE MODELS.
AND THIS IS CONSISTENT AT 2.72 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS IS JUST AN AERIAL OF THIS AREA.
FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION TO THE NORTH IS LOW DENSITY.
MEDIUM DENSITY. TO THE SOUTH IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MODULE ACROSS 1387.
AND YOU HAVE LOW DENSITY AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MODELS OVER HERE AT GOSH, I FORGET THAT ONE. OKAY.
EVERYBODY'S FORGETTING. WHAT WAS IT? HAYES. MASSEY MEADOWS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY REFRESHING MY BRAIN.
THANK GOD. AND THEN TO THE EAST IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MODULES OVER HERE.
SO THIS IS THE ZONING YOU SEE SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS I BELIEVE COMMERCIAL OR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THIS IS AG ON THIS AREA.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS ALONG HERE.
AND THEN AS YOU SEE THE HAYS ROAD 80 FOOT ARTERIAL HERE AND THEN 1387 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THERE. SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
PROMOTE ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ALL RESIDENTS. PROTECT MIDLOTHIAN'S NEIGHBORHOODS BY REQUIRING TRADITIONAL LOT DESIGN, TRANSITIONAL LOT DESIGN, EXCUSE ME, AND LEVERAGE ZONING CASES TO PROVIDE NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES AND SERVICES TO THESE AREAS.
THIS IS CONCEPT B THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE WIND RIDGE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE EAST AREA OF COURSE WITH HAYES ROAD COMING UP HERE.
AND THIS IS APPROXIMATELY A 54 ACRE PARK.
THAT WILL BE IN THIS AGREEMENT.
AND THEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'LL TALK IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW THAT'S PROGRAMED ET-CETERA AND BUILT.
SO THESE ARE THE LOT STANDARDS.
SO TYPE A LOTS, WHICH THE TYPE A LOTS ARE ON THE WEST SIDE.
THE WEST AREA AND THE EAST AREA ARE THE TYPE B LOTS.
NO. I'M SORRY. SO THE TYPE A LOTS ARE THE WEST AREA.
HERE THE TYPE B LOTS. I BELIEVE THIS, THIS IS A AND THESE ARE B, AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE OTHER LOT SIZES IN THE EAST AREA OVER HERE.
SO THERE WILL BE ARCHITECTURAL AMENITY REQUIREMENTS, ARTICULATED FRONTS WITH MINIMUM TWO FRONT ARTICULATIONS, TWO HEIGHT PLATE VARIATIONS, THREE ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS PER THE PD ORDINANCE. NO IDENTICAL ELEVATIONS WILL BE REPEATED FOR SIDES ON FOUR SIDES OF EITHER HOUSE AND THEN ALSO ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE AN ENTRY PLAN.
AND THIS IS 1387 AND HAYES ROAD.
THERE WILL BE DEVELOPMENT SIGNAGE. ATTENTION LAKE AND LAKE OVERLOOK, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN ENHANCED PAVING AND SIDEWALKS AS WELL.
SO ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE OPAQUE FENCING ALONG THE MAJORITY OF THE OPEN SPACE.
AND THEN ALONG 1387, YOU HAVE MASONRY WALLS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE STREETS.
THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF CREATING SOME SEMI SINGLE LOADED STREETS THAT FACE OUT ONTO A 1387. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE BUFFERING PLAN OR THE SCREENING PLAN.
THEY HAVE ALONG 1387. SO DECIDUOUS BIG HARDWOOD TREES EVERY 30FT.
AND THEN THEY HAVE NEXT TO THE SIDE YARDS OF THE HOUSES, THEY HAVE MASONRY WALLS.
THAT WOULD BE RESTROOM AND POOL EQUIPMENT, ENCLOSURE, AMENITY POOL WITH CABANAS, A GRILL STATION, SEATING AREA, OPEN LAWN ON STREET PARKING AS YOU SEE, AND SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN THIS AMENITY CENTER WILL BE COMPLETE BY THE 201ST PERMIT.
BY THE TIME THE 201ST PERMIT IS ISSUED.
AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE A POCKET PARK.
AND THIS IS THE, THE PARK PARK DESIGN JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HAYES ROAD FROM THIS, IT HAS A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT PLAYGROUND, SEATING AREAS AND TERRACED LAWN.
FIVE FOOT MINIMUM HAYS ROAD SIDEWALK.
AN OPEN SPACE TRAIL AND POCKET PARK WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE 300TH PERMIT FOR THE EAST AREA, SO YOU HAVE THRESHOLDS FOR BOTH THOSE AMENITY AREAS.
SO THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN HAYS ROAD, THE 90 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, WILL HAVE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND THE HAYS ROAD AND THE FM 1387 SIDEWALKS BEFORE THE 200TH PERMIT.
WE MIGHT PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
FM 1387. BUT I THINK AS LONG AS WE'LL HAVE THE ROADS, IT'LL BE OUTSIDE OF ANY RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY DEDICATE AND EVERYTHING.
THE LOCAL STREETS, THE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS, WILL HAVE SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE 6.16 FOR SIDEWALKS.
SO WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING ON THESE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS, AND I'VE GOT AN EXAMPLE HERE IN A SECOND, IS SIDEWALKS ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.
AND THEN THE ENTRY STREETS, THE 60 FOOT OR THE 68 FOOT ROAD WILL HAVE SIX
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FOOT SIDEWALKS ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.SO THAT IS THE SAME VARIANCE FROM THE SAME SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM OF TEN FOOT WIDE CONCRETE TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS AROUND THE COMMUNITY PARK WILL MEET THE CITY STANDARDS ABOVE.
SO THIS IS A CONNECTIVITY PLAN, AS YOU SEE ON THE, THE WEST SIDE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF THESE HAVE THE SIDEWALK AND THE SIDEWALKS DEPICTED HERE IN RED. SIDEWALKS ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE LOT.
SO ON. FOR INSTANCE, ON THESE TWO STREETS, YOU'LL HAVE A SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT NOT ON THE SOUTH.
SAME WITH THIS ONE. NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT NOT ON THE SOUTH. SAME HERE.
YOU HAVE IT ON THE NORTH, BUT NOT ON THE SOUTH.
AND THEN HERE YOU HAVE IT ON THE SOUTH AND NOT ON THE NORTH. SO THAT'S JUST.
AND THAT'S HOW THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN IS THROUGHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THAT DOES REQUIRE A VARIANCE FROM OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
WE DID MAIL OUT 72 POSTCARDS WERE MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT.
ONE SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE SITE AND NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR ON MARCH 14TH, MARCH 28TH AND APRIL 18TH.
AND TODAY WE HAVE. TO DATE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED NO CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
RANCHO LARGO SINCE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE PLAN MAP COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES AND ZONING, AND CONSISTENT WITH COMP PLAN GOALS, STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS.
STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE VARIANCE REQUESTS FOR SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, SO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FIVE ONE WITH THE CONDITION THAT SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS BE LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THERE IS A I'M SURE SOMEBODY HAS A PRESENTATION BACK THERE, SO I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE.
YES. OUTSIDE OF THE APPLICANT.
WELCOME. COME ON UP IF YOU WOULD.
I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR LAST NAME.
BILKA. BILKA. OKAY, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES, SIR. I HAD A FACE PROCEDURE TODAY, SO I KNEW I HAD TO COME.
SORRY, A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT I THINK THE WEATHER DETRACTED A LOT OF PEOPLE, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE HERE VOICING THEIR OPPOSITION.
SO IF WE COULD DO A CONTINUANCE, THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT THAT'S NOT MY DECISION.
I PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. I HERE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED 248 ACRE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
NOT BECAUSE I OPPOSE GROWTH, BUT BECAUSE I STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS PROJECT IS BEING CONSIDERED WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT IT SAFELY.
FM 1387 IS CURRENTLY A TWO LANE ROAD THAT IS ALREADY OVERBURDENED.
MANY OF US WHO DRIVE IT EVERY DAY EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT CONGESTION, ESPECIALLY DURING PEAK HOURS TO AND FROM SCHOOL, EVENING WORK, ALL THAT FUN STUFF.
THERE ARE LONG DELAYS, LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO PASS AND INCREASING SAFETY CONCERNS WHEN TURNING ON TO OR OFF THE ROADWAY.
NOW THAT WE NOW HAVE TOM THUMB AS WELL IN THE MIX, ADDING LARGE SCALE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC ON A ROAD THAT IS ALREADY STRUGGLING TO HANDLE CURRENT DEMAND.
IT IS A CURRENT ONE THAT WILL BE MADE WORSE.
INCREASED CONGESTION LEADS TO MORE ACCIDENTS, LONGER EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES, AND GREATER RISK FOR FAMILIES SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON PEOPLE.
ON STUDENTS TRYING TO GET ONTO 1387 SO THEY CAN GET TO SCHOOL TO HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL.
I CAN GIVE YOU VIDEOS AND DAILY COMMUTERS APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE WITHOUT A CLEAR AND FUNDED PLAN TO IMPROVE.
FM 1387 PUTS EXISTING RESIDENTS AT RISK.
IT'S JUST. IT'S VERY APPARENT.
I URGE MIDLOTHIAN PLANNING TO REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING BEFORE MOVING FORWARD A COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT REFLECTS FULL BUILD OUT CONDITIONS.
NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 600 HOMES, 1200 VEHICLES AT A MINIMUM, INCREASING THE CONGESTION ON THAT ROAD AND A PHASED DEVELOPMENT APPROACH THAT TIES OCCUPANCY TO COMPLETED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
GROWTH IS INEVITABLE, BUT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH REQUIRES THAT INFRASTRUCTURE KEEP PACE.
RIGHT NOW, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS PROJECT IN ITS CURRENT FORM UNTIL THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET. AND I'VE HEARD BEFORE IN THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE EVERYTHING OUT OF THIS, AND WE HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE ROAD IS NOT ACCOMMODATING FOR 600 MORE HOUSES FOR ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON THERE.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY INADEQUATE. THIS CREATES IMMEDIATE SAFETY RISKS.
APPROVAL WITHOUT IMPROVEMENTS IS IRRESPONSIBLE.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I REQUEST A CONTINUANCE IF THEY.I DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE AND I CALLED SOMEBODY ON THE SIGN EXPRESSING MY CONCERN.
SO I'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED TO SOMEBODY ON PLANNING.
WHOEVER THE PLANNING MANAGER WAS.
AND 200FT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR TWIN CREEKS AND HAYES CROSSING, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK. IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO GET PUBLIC OPINION.
THANK YOU. THAT'S THE STATE LAW. THANK YOU MA'AM. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. AND SHE'S RIGHT. 1387 THERE'S I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING WHEN THAT WILL BE DONE, BUT PER THIS ORDINANCE AN EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE DECELERATION LANE AND A WESTBOUND DECELERATION LANE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG FARM TO MARKET 1387 AT HAYES ROAD. THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY WILL BE THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS, AND A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS ALSO RECOMMENDED TO HAYES ROAD, WHICH IS PLANNED. IT HAS BEEN WARRANTED BY TXDOT IN THAT AREA, SO THAT WILL COMMENCE THIS YEAR.
SO JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION JUST FOR PUBLIC RECORD.
1387 IS A STATE RUN FACILITY STATE RUN ROAD.
THE APPLICANTS HERE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME. MAYOR I HAVE OH I APOLOGIZE, THERE'S ONE MORE PUBLIC. SPEAKER TWO MORE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
HANS COKER. WELCOME. IF YOU COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE MICROPHONE, STATE WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HELLO, MY NAME IS HANS COKER.
I DO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS IN THE TWIN CREEKS.
I MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO, AND 1387 WAS DECENT PER SE.
I LIVED IN MANSFIELD. EVERYTHING YOU SAID BECAME TRUE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. BUT BEYOND THAT WHEN? A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO OPEN IT UP. BUILD IT UP, I SAID. FINALLY SOMEBODY GOT SMART IN THE GOVERNMENT AND SAID, BOOM, LET'S LET'S OPEN THIS UP BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE. THIS IS A MAJOR. THERE'S NOT A LITTLE ARTERY ANYMORE. MOST PEOPLE LIVE OFF THAT ROAD AND YET ALL OF A SUDDEN DISAPPEARED. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, I TIMED IT ONE, I WORK IN DALLAS HALF THE TIME FROM MY HOME TO DALLAS IS SPENT MIDLOTHIAN, WHERE 1387 I'VE SEEN IN AND LOOKED AT DISTANCES.
NOW YOU'RE ADDING 600 MORE HOMES.
LIKE SHE SAID. SHE SAID, EXCELLENT, ELOQUENT. I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER THAN HER. YOU HAD THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THERE.
I HAVE A TRUCK. I CAN SWING OUT THERE AND RACE OUT ALL THE CARS.
SECOND, YOU HIT THAT ROAD, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE SITTING THERE. IT'S DANGEROUS BECAUSE WHEN EVERYBODY CAN DRIVE THERE, QUOTE UNQUOTE, 50 MILES AN HOUR AND YOU'RE ON A ONE LANE ROAD, YET ON THE OTHER ROAD, IT'S LIKE YOU CAN 45, WHICH NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE BUILDING MORE HOUSING.
IT'S LIKE, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WIDEN IT? AND I LOVE THE THE NEW, YOU KNOW, STORE THERE, BUT THAT HAS MORE TRAFFIC.
IT TOOK ME FIVE MINUTES TO GET OUT OF THAT STORE BECAUSE WHAT ONE LANE HERE, ONE HERE. YOU'RE FIGHTING OVER PEOPLE TRYING TO LET YOU THROUGH.
THIS IS THE THING. GROWTH IS FINE.
BUILD OUT. IF NOT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PACKED ROADS AND YOU SAY, OH, LET'S LET'S WIDEN IT NOW.
AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? CLOSE OUT A ROAD WHERE EVERYBODY'S LIVING ON? SO THIS NEEDS TO BE SEEN WHERE YOU EXPAND IT, DEVELOP IT OUT BEFORE YOU START.
THOSE ROADS NEED TO BE WIDER FOR SAFETY.
I MEAN IT'S THE SCHOOL ISSUE THAT'S A BIG ISSUE I SEE EVERY DAY.
I MEAN TEN YEARS OF DRIVING THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S A TRAFFIC ISSUE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.
THE FACT THAT THEY WANT WHAT'S THE THE THE RIGHT BAM.
THAT WAS I WAS I MOVED WHEN THAT ROAD WAS A SINGLE ROAD AND IT WAS A JUNK ROAD.
YOU WIDENED IT TO TWO ON EACH SIDE.
THERE'S NO TRAFFIC. IT'S GREAT.
NOW YOU'RE ASKING, LET'S BUILD MORE HOMES. I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL. I MEAN, THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING. I MEAN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM BUILDING, I THINK. WOW, THAT'D BE A GREAT ASSET. MAKES MY PROPERTY BETTER. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
IT'S THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ADDING THAT MANY MORE HOMES, THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC TO A ROAD THAT IS NOT BUILT FOR IT.
IT'S LIKE TAKING A IT'S TAKING ALL THESE ARTERIES INTO WHAT YOU THINK IS A SMALL LITTLE VEIN. IT'S NOT A VEIN.
IT IS A MAJOR ARTERY THAT IS A MAJOR STREET.
NOW YOU LITERALLY CROSS THERE.
EVERYBODY LIVES THERE. IT NEEDS TO BE WIDENED BEFORE ALL THESE GREAT PLANS HAPPEN.
LIKE I SAID, GROWTH IS GREAT, BUT PLANET, DON'T BE MANSFIELD.
THEY JUST THREW IT OUT THERE AND THAT'S WHY I MOVED.
I SAID, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. PHIL WEAVER.
YOU DON'T MIND, STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL.
HI, I'M PHIL WEAVER AND I'M THE OWNER OF RANCHO POCO LOCO,
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APPROPRIATELY NOW BEING RENAMED RANCHO LARGO.WE'VE ENJOYED THE 200 ACRES AS OUR HOME FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME, THE RANCH HAS SERVED AS A LONGHORN CATTLE RANCH, A CHRISTMAS TREE FARM, AND A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE ENJOYED RECREATIONAL BOATING AND FISHING AND GATHERING FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
I'M NOW 85 YEARS OLD, THIS TIME TO SELL THE RANCH.
I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE PEOPLE ENJOYING THE LAND THAT I'VE CALLED HOME.
THE NEW HOUSING AND PUBLIC PARK WILL GIVE OTHERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPRECIATE WHAT I HAVE CHERISHED. I CHOSE BLOOMFIELD HOMES TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR INTEGRITY AND TRUST THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF WIND RIDGE, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE LAKE, AND I KNOW THEY ARE A REPUTABLE COMPANY WITH BRIGHT, CARING PEOPLE AT THE HELM.
RANCHO LAGO WILL SERVE THIS COMMUNITY WELL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MR. WEAVER. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME UP AND MAKE A PRESENTATION OR SPEAK.
THE. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL PRETTY WELL VERSED WITH.
AND CLYDE GAVE A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
IF YOU DON'T MIND HONING IN ON SOME OF THE SHORT, SHORT VERSION, THE CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED TONIGHT REGARDING TRAFFIC AND.
YEAH. COULD YOU HELP ME PDF? I DON'T WANT TO MESS IT UP AGAIN. WELL, IT'S NOT HERE ANYMORE. HEY, MIKE, HOW DO WE GET TO. THE PRESENTATION.
HAS IT. THERE WE GO. BOOM! YEP. AARON DUNCAN WITH MESA DESIGN GROUP, 2001 NORTH LAMAR STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, ON THE LANDSCAPE.
ARCHITECT. LAND PLANNER. ON THIS.
WORKING WITH BLOOMFIELD HOMES.
SO WE MET WITH YOU ALL A LOT. OBVIOUSLY THIS THIS PLAN TONIGHT Y'ALL'S VENDORS AND FEEDBACK HAVE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH MISS DOWELL ON THE PARK WITH, WITH MR. ADAMS ON THE TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS DEFINITELY A COMPONENT THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
93 OF THOSE LOTS ACTUALLY INCLUDES WINJE PHASE TWO.
WE DECIDED TO FOLD THAT ZONING AND THAT PROJECT ALREADY PLATTED INTO THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO REDO THE ROAD CONNECTIONS AND TIE WINJE RIDGE OVER TO HAYES.
AND SO, WHAT? THE REAL NET ADDITION OF THIS IS, IS REALLY 503 ADDITIONAL LOTS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT COMPONENT OF IT AS WELL.
OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE DID LET ME WHAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THE, THE OPEN SPACE TO THE MASTER PLAN HERE AND JUST HONE IN ON, ON THE MASTER PLAN. SO 1387 WE CAN'T CONTROL.
1387 WE'VE WORKED WITH MR. ADAMS TO BASICALLY GET THIS PLAN TO WORK.
SO WE'VE INCORPORATED THIS DRAMATIC OF 1387 OF WHERE THAT FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD GO.
WE ADDED THOSE DIESEL LANES INTO THE, INTO THE HAYES ROAD PROJECT.
SO WE'VE DONE WHAT WE CAN TO CONTROL.
1387. BUT WHAT WE'VE REALLY ALSO FOCUSED ON IS OBVIOUSLY THE HAYES ROAD COMPONENT.
AND SO WHEN WE DO THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE IDEA IS REALLY, LET ME JUMP TO THE PHASING COMPONENT.
REALLY WHERE THIS IS GOING TO LOOK AT IS WHEN RIDGE PHASE TWO IS REALLY THIS PORTION OVER HERE. WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL LOTS OVER HERE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST FOCUS OF THIS PROJECT IS THE EXTENSION OF WINJE RIDGE.
THE IDEA IS THAT. AND DIDN'T HAYES ROAD BUILT WILL REALLY BE KIND OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT. THAT WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH WHAT WE CAN CONTROL.
WE CAN'T CONTROL OBVIOUSLY 1387 AND TEXDOT, BUT THE IDEA IS FROM A FOCUS, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE WHEN WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE EAST SIDE.
IT'S GOING TO BE STARTING THERE, DATING HAYES ROAD BUILT.
SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT NOW BY THAT TIME, WILL TEXDOT HAVE 1387 BUILT? HOPEFULLY, BUT WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE TRIED TO FOCUS FROM OUR PHASING IS REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE NORTHWEST PART AND HAYES ROAD IN THERE TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC FROM 1387 UP TO MOCKINGBIRD. SO A COUPLE OTHER COMPONENTS I KNOW IN P AND Z EMILY COURT, WE ARE SHOWING A ROAD STUB ON EMILY COURT.
THAT IS SOMETHING PLANNING IS ALWAYS ABOUT CONNECTIVITY AND ROAD STUBS AND HAVING EVERYBODY CONNECTED. WE KNEW THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BE A CONCERN IF THE RESIDENTS DID NOT WANT THAT CONNECTION.
IT'S REALLY GOING TO SERVE MORE FOR THEM TO CUT OUT INTO OUR PROJECT.
WE'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL THAT IF THAT DID COME UP, HE IS OKAY ABOUT PUTTING JUST A NOTCH BOX ON ON STREET V TO CONTROL TRAFFIC JUST FOR MS AND THAT WAY THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS THE RESIDENTS ON EMILY COURT HAD.
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I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT TONIGHT, BUT I KNOW THAT WAS SOME FEEDBACK WE HAD HEARD THROUGH MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL AND STAFF THROUGHOUT THE TIME.I DID WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT CONNECTION THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD OFFER UP, YOU KNOW, FIRE WAS WOULD HAVE WITH THAT HAVING THAT NOTCH BOX. SO OVERALL, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH THIS, OF THE ADDITIONAL 503 LOTS, 600 TOTAL, INCLUDING THE WIND RIDGE PHASE TWO, ALSO THE 54 ACRES OF THE PARKLAND.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WITH MISS DOWELL ABOUT DEDICATING THAT LAND.
AND MR. WEAVER'S PROPERTY IS GORGEOUS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS I'VE EVER SEEN THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A SOIL CONSERVATION LAKE FULLY CONTROLLED ON ALL SIDES.
AND SO THE BACKBONE OF THIS PLAN WAS ABOUT HOW THAT THAT CAN STAY IN OPEN SPACE IN PERPETUITY AND ALSO BECOME A PUBLIC AMENITY.
AND SO THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITH YOU, THE IDEA WAS HOW WE HAD THAT COMPONENT OF THE PARK LAND INTEGRATED IN HOW THAT PARK CAN BE A PUBLIC PARK, HAVE ITS OWN ACCESS, BUT HOW WE CAN COEXIST.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BUILT THIS PLAN AROUND THAT WITH THE OPEN SPACES, WITH THE AMENITY CENTERS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY ALLOWS THE VIEWS OF THE PARK, BUT ALSO YOU HAVE AN HOA COMPONENT, BUT ALSO A PUBLIC PARK COMPONENT.
THE LAST PART, I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT AT PNC ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS.
WE DID PROPOSE THE FIVE FOOT ON ONE SIDE.
THE NICE THING WORKING WITH BLOOMFIELD, BLOOMFIELD IS THE DEVELOPER, BUT THEY'RE ALSO THE HOME BUILDER. SO THEY DID A LOT OF DIRECT FEEDBACK FROM HOMEOWNERS, HOME BUYERS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DESIRE PEOPLE NOT WALKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
SO THEY KIND OF VIEW THAT AS A PREMIUM.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WALKING THEIR DOGS AND DOING THINGS IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND SO FORTH. SO THERE HAS BEEN DEMAND FOR THAT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A FOCUS.
IF WE NEED TO GO TO JUST YOUR STANDARD SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES, WE CAN DO THAT.
THAT WAS THE REASON WE WERE TRYING TO DO THE ONE SIDE ON, ON EACH, EVERY OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT FEEDBACK THAT BLOOMFIELD HAD HAD.
SO IF THAT'S A POINT OF CONTENTION, DON'T LET THAT HOLD UP THE ZONING ON THIS.
WE'RE OKAY OF GOING TO JUST YOUR STANDARD SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS.
I'VE GIVEN THIS PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL. YOU ALL LOOKED AT THE PLAN MULTIPLE TIMES. I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE 30 SLIDES, BUT I CAN ALSO JUST ADDRESS QUESTIONS AS YOU ALL DO, Q&A AS THEY ARISE.
I DID FORGET TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO COUNCIL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE TO SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN ROGERS, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM WICKLIFFE.
PLEASE VOTE. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES 7 TO 0.
BEFORE WE GO TO Q AND A WITH YOU AS THE APPLICANT, I WOULD LIKE FOR EITHER CLYDE OR MAYBE MIKE ADAMS TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT OF WHAT OPENING UP HAYS ROAD AND CONNECTIVITY ALL THE WAY TO MOCKINGBIRD MIGHT DO TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED TONIGHT AND THAT WE ALL ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF ARE IN EXISTENCE ALONG 1387. SO WHAT WE CAN DO FROM THE CITY SIDE WITH THIS DEVELOPER, WHAT THE IMPACT OF HAYS ROAD WILL HAVE ON ALLEVIATING TRAFFIC.
YES, SIR. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AGAIN LOOKING AT WAS LOOKING AT COMING IN WITH ULTIMATE SECTION OF HAYS ROAD, WHICH IS A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED ROADWAY.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR LANES TO THE NORTH FOR A SEGMENT.
WE HAVE THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY BUILT TO THE NORTH AS WELL.
THAT'S PART OF MOCKINGBIRD SPRINGS.
AND SO THE INTENT WOULD BE TO ALLOW FOLKS TO HAVE BESIDES 1387, ANOTHER EAST WEST ROUTE.
YOU KNOW, WE CURRENTLY ARE, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS ON MOCKINGBIRD FROM MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY, WALNUT GROVE ROAD.
WE ALSO. BECAUSE MOCKINGBIRD IS OURS, WE ALSO CAN DO A PROJECT AGAIN BASED ON YOUR COUNCIL DIRECTION AND MAYBE A BOND PROJECT TO GO FROM THERE ALL THE WAY TO HAYS ROAD AS WELL. SO WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN EAST WEST CORRIDOR THAT WE CONTROL OUTSIDE OF TXDOT. AND SO THAT WOULD REALLY BE A TIMING STANDPOINT THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AS PART OF THIS.
AND I KNOW CLYDE HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED ON 1387. TXDOT IS PLANNING ON DOING THE SIGNAL, AND AS PART OF THAT, THERE IS GOING TO BE A WESTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE TO GO SOUTHBOUND ON HAYS.
THERE'S NOT THAT LANE THERE. SO WHEN FOLKS ARE TRYING TO TURN TO GO INTO HAYS, GOING TO TWIN CREEKS, TECH STOCKS, BUILDING THAT TURN LANE AND THE THROUGH LANE, THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR A EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE TO GO NORTHBOUND ON HAYS ROAD AS WELL. SO AGAIN, THE INTENT WOULD BE TO TRY TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE CONGESTION AND THE TRAFFIC ON 1387, AS WAS DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, UNTIL ABOUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT RIGHT NOW, 1387 IS NOT ON TEXTS RADAR.
IT WAS IT WAS MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY.
WE WERE, YOU KNOW, INDICATED THAT WE NEEDED TO GET OUR UTILITIES RELOCATED BY A CERTAIN DATE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S CHANGED NOW.
WHAT WHAT CAUSED THAT TO CHANGE? YOU KNOW, MOSTLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT.
YEAH. SO THE, THE OPENING OF POTENTIALLY OPENING OF HAYS ROAD ALL THE WAY TO MOCKINGBIRD WOULD GIVE ANOTHER ROUTE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC AS THEY HEAD TOWARD HIGHWAY 67.
COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF EITHER CLYDE, MIKE OR OR THE APPLICANT.
MIKE. MIKE DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK, BUT JUST AS A STATEMENT.
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I ALWAYS QUESTION ADDING DENSITY, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE BEEN.WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HAYS ROAD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
WE KNOW NOW THAT TEX-DOT IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO ACT UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO 2030.
FROM 1387, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING FEASIBLY POSSIBLE.
I KNOW I'VE EVEN SAT IN MEETINGS AND ASKED FOR OLD STYLE STOPLIGHTS, WHICH IS TELEPHONE POLES ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH CABLE HANGING OVER JUST TO GIVE TRAFFIC ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BREAK WITHOUT THIS.
THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME FROM LIVING HERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
YOU EITHER GOT TO GO DOWN TO BRYSON LANE AND TRAVEL UP, OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT TO, EXCUSE ME, WALNUT GROVE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THERE.
THIS TO ME IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL GOING TO THE NORTH SOUTH, WHICH IS NEEDED BETWEEN BRYSON AND WALNUT GROVE TO GET SOME TRAFFIC RELIEF.
AND IT'S GOING TO GO UP AND HIT MOCKINGBIRD AND GIVE YOU A WAY OUT OF THERE.
I ALSO THINK THAT THIS WILL PROJECT A TEX DOT.
AND MAYBE, AS MIKE MENTIONED IN THE.
MAYBE THEY'RE AT HAYES WHEN THEY GET THIS ADDED ACTIVITY COMING IN FROM THE NORTH AND THE DEMAND. I LIKE THE LAYOUT OF THE 3 TO 5 YEAR, THE 4 TO 7 AND THE SEVEN PLUS.
I DON'T I THINK FROM A A GIFT TO ALLEVIATE SOME TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. THIS IS THE BEST THING I'VE HEARD FOR THAT REGION.
AND NOT HAVING TO SIT AROUND AND WAIT ON TEX-DOT TO TELL US IT'S GOING TO BE 2035 LATER. SO I THOUGHT I WOULD MAKE THAT QUICK STATEMENT ON HOW I'M VIEWING THIS.
COUNCIL. IS THERE ANYBODY GOT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? SO OUR CURRENT MOCKINGBIRD PROJECT GOES FROM MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY TO WALNUT GROVE.
CORRECT. AND WHAT WILL THE FULL BUILD OUT OF THAT BE, MIKE? YES, SIR. THAT ULTIMATE THAT ULTIMATE SEGMENT IS A 90 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IT'LL BE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE.
WE CURRENTLY AREN'T BUILDING ALL FOUR LANES RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE. WE ARE BUILDING PORTION OF THAT FOUR LANE DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE. BUT WE'RE. AND THAT WILL BE CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER SIDEWALK INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE'LL TRY TO DO THE FULL INTERSECTIONS AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU GET A LOT OF CAPACITY INTERSECTIONS. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TWO LANES CAN CARRY A LOT OF TRAFFIC UNTIL YOU GET TO INTERSECTIONS. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES I KNOW WE'VE MEASURED SOME OF OUR TEX-DOT HAS IS THE CHOKE POINT OF WALNUT GROVE IN 1387, BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER WAY, UNLESS YOU GO BASICALLY TO AVILA TO COME BACK AND GET AROUND FROM ANOTHER DIRECTION.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DOWN TO 287, YOU KNOW, OR EVEN BACK TO 67.
SO I THINK COUNCILMAN ROGERS IS, IS VERY APT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS CREATES A SECONDARY POINT.
SO NOT ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC HAS TO FUNNEL THROUGH THAT ONE INTERSECTION.
AND ALSO JUST SO AGAIN, REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE OF TXDOT TO LOOK AT 1387 AND WALNUT GROVE ROAD AND SEE IF THEY COULD DO A BREAKOUT PROJECT.
A WHOLE LOT SOONER SO THAT YOU BUILD THE FULL INTERSECTION. SO YOU'D HAVE ALL 4 OR 5 LANES AT THAT INTERSECTION COMPLETELY AND DONE.
AND THAT WAY THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP OUT AND RELIEVE THAT INTERSECTION. COUNCILMAN ROGERS. JUST ONE THING. TXDOT THAT THE SIGNAL IS ALREADY WARRANTED AT HAYS ROAD IN 1387.
AND SO THAT DESIGN IS COMPLETED AND THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE STARTING THIS YEAR BY TXDOT. AND THAT'S HAPPENING REGARDLESS OF THIS PROJECT, REGARDLESS OF THE PROJECT. THAT'S BEFORE THE PROJECT. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. MIKE. I'M SO SORRY. CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT FOR OUR LAST MEETING OF TXDOT, THIS SEGMENT IS NO LONGER EVEN ON THE TEN YEAR PLAN.
SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 2030.
IT'S NOT EVEN ON THEIR TEN YEAR PLAN AT THIS POINT.
SO BUT ONE THING I MEAN, THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED CUTTING OFF THIS STREET TO EMILY COURT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AND PLANNERS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN LONG BRANCH CAN GET TO WALNUT GROVE WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO HIT 1387.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, ALL THE ROADS DOWN MOCKINGBIRD, ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN MOCKINGBIRD CAN GET TO LONG BRANCH ELEMENTARY WITHOUT EVER HITTING 1387. SO THESE SMALL CONNECTIONS AND IT'S NOT THE PANACEA.
IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF OUR ISSUES.
BUT WHEN PEOPLE PROPOSE TO CUT OFF STREETS THAT DIRECTLY CONNECT, I MEAN, THAT THAT THAT FORCES EVERYBODY.
IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD FORCE EVERYBODY IN HERE TO 1387 FOR THESE SMALL TRIPS TO GO TO TOM THUMB THIS WAY.
I MEAN, ONCE THAT'S DONE, YOU CAN GO FROM LONG BRANCH TO TOM THUMB WITHOUT HAVING TO HURT. 1387 SO I MEAN, IT'S SMALL, VERY SMALL. IT DOESN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING.
BUT I THINK THAT'S, YEAH, WE DON'T NEED TO DISCOURAGE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS.
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SO NO, I AGREE COMPLETELY.WHEN WE HAVE STUB OUTS WE SHOULD CONNECT TO THE STUB OUTS. THEY WERE STUBBED OUT FOR A REASON. YEAH. I KNOW THE FOLKS THAT, THAT HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT STUB OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, NO EXTRA PARKING OR BASKETBALL GOALS OR COURTS OR WHATEVER.
HAVE HAVE HAD THAT WONDERFUL BENEFIT FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT THERE'S A REASON THERE WASN'T A CUL DE SAC THERE, AND THAT THERE WERE BARRICADES IN THE ROAD ENDED IS BECAUSE THE INTENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SINCE THAT ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IT WOULD CONNECT TO, TO PROVIDE THAT BENEFIT THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE, THE APPLICANT AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE SINGLE LOADED SIDEWALKS.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE CONCEPT, BUT TO ME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TO HAVING A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, MAKING IT JUST ONE FOOT BIGGER THAN YOU WOULD HAVE.
I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO MAKE THAT INTO MORE OF A EIGHT FOOT OR A TEN FOOT, YOU KNOW, PROMENADE STYLE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, I THINK I CAN GET BEHIND THAT.
YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR, SOMEBODY WALKING TWO DOGS, THEY'LL CROSS THE STREET SOMETIMES SO THAT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, CHOKING DOWN IN THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW, SIX FOOT IS BIG ENOUGH SO THAT I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT BIGGER ON THE ONE SIDE? YEAH. THANKS, AARON.
YOU DID A GREAT JOB. DON DYKSTRA, BLOOMFIELD HOMES.
THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE PUT IT OUT HERE.
BECAUSE I THINK WE'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH IT IN OTHER PLACES. AND AS AARON SAID, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO PREFER TO HAVE IT OR NOT HAVE IT. TO ME, IT'S MORE ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY AND ESTHETICS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE CHALLENGED WITH A LOT IS WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, AND WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT LOOKS COOKIE CUTTER. AND IF YOU GO THROUGH A LOT OF HIGH END NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU'LL SEE A TRAIL SYSTEM.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE DRIVING GOLF CARTS ON THEM OR WHATEVER. AND THERE'S, IT'S A, IT'S A TRAIL SYSTEM. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES, WE THINK SIX FEET. AND I'LL DEFER TO THE.
BUT IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO PEOPLE TO BE SIDE BY SIDE AND HOLD HANDS INSTEAD OF ONE BY OTHER. WE, I THINK, SEE TRAILS OR CONNECTIVITY IS KIND OF LIKE STREET PLAN.
YOU GOT CONNECTORS, ARTERIALS, THOROUGHFARES, AND THIS HAS GOT THE TEN FOOT THAT'S ON THE, I THINK ON THE CITY'S TRAIL PLAN THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT THE PARK AND WILL RUN NORTH AND SOUTH, I THINK LONG TERM ON THE INTERIOR BLOCKS, REALLY THE GOAL IS TO GET PEOPLE THROUGH THAT TRAIL AND TO THAT OPEN SPACE AS SMOOTH AS WE CAN, AS QUICK AS WE CAN. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE THOUGHT BEHIND THE CONNECTIVITY.
LIKE AARON SAID, THAT'S NOT A DEAL KILLER FOR US.
IT CAN GO AWAY. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, SIX FEET ON ONE SIDE, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE ALL THROUGHOUT THIS 8 OR 10FT IN THEIR FRONT YARD, BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE THAT THEIR KIDS CAN GET RIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND WHAT WE SEE IS PEOPLE CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER.
THERE'S PEOPLE THAT GET REALLY UPSET WHEN SOMEONE WALKS THEIR DOG AND IT GETS IN THEIR YARD. THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT LOVE FOR THEIR FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO GET RIGHT ON THE TRAIL AND HEAD OUT. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY THOUGHT, BUT THAT'S NOT A DEAL KILLER FOR US.
YOU GOOD? ROSS? YOU GOT MORE? THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE SAME ONE THAT I HAD WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BRIDGEWATER DEVELOPMENT IS THE THE NON OPAQUE FENCING ALONG OPEN SPACE AREAS WHERE THERE'S TRAILS DIRECTLY BEHIND LOTS.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAD A PLAN FOR WHERE THOSE AREAS WERE, I THINK ON ONE OF THE SLIDES.
YEP. LET ME FIND IT. AND WHAT'S MISLEADING IS A LOT OF THE OPEN SPACE HERE HERE.
THERE YOU GO. THE THE THICK RED.
YEAH. SO THE LOTS THAT ARE BACKED UP, THE GREEN SPOT, I CALL IT THE GREEN SPINE DOWN THE MIDDLE VERY HEAVILY TREED.
SO THE IDEA THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THE TRAIL IS REALLY GOING TO PARALLEL THE CONTOUR SO THAT IT FOLLOWS. THIS IS THE REGIONAL TRAIL THAT KIND OF GOES THROUGH THIS CORRIDOR.
SO THERE WILL BE A TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGH HERE.
I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF VERTICAL SEPARATION. I THINK HERE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HEAVILY TREED, AND IT'LL BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE LOTS TO VIEW INTO.
I HAVE LESS CONCERN HERE ABOUT IT'S GREEN SPACE, BUT IT'S YOU'RE GOING TO BE NAVIGATING THROUGH NATURE AND NOT THROUGH THIS OPEN SPACE. I THINK THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A CONCERN ABOUT VISIBILITY WITH THE LOTS HERE, AS YOU SAW ON THE OTHER ONES. THE OTHER LOTS OVER HERE, THIS IS BACKING UP TO A CREEK, AGAIN, VERY HEAVILY TREED.
AND SO THE ONE AREA YOU COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT IS MAYBE THESE LOTS HERE, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE PUBLIC PARK THAT MAYBE IS A VALID POINT THERE TO DO THOSE LOTS AS MORE OF A, MAYBE THE WOOD FENCE INSTEAD, BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE NOT SURE WHAT THE PROGRAM IS. YOU ALL ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE AN AREA WHERE MAYBE WE DO WANT TO HAVE MORE OF A BUFFER THERE.
BACKING UP TO THE PARK. I COULD SEE THAT TOTALLY. YEAH.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IF YOU FLIP TO YOUR TRAIL MAP.
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SO EVEN ON THE NORTHERN SIDE THERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME LOTS IT SHOWS TO HAVE A TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF RUNNING RIGHT BEHIND THOSE LOTS. SO ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY GRADE SEPARATED THERE? THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME SLOPE THERE ON THOSE LOTS, THAT TRAIL BASICALLY.I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CONTOUR. IT BASICALLY FOLLOWS IT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH SLOPE IN THERE. THOSE LOTS WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE TRAIL.
I DON'T WE HAVEN'T GRADED IT, BUT THERE WILL BE A A PRETTY DECENT SLOPE THERE. THOSE LOTS WILL BE HIGHER. OKAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A CONCERN.
I MEAN, WHEN WE WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PARTS OF TOWN AND YOU KNOW, I THINK COTTON CREEK RANCH IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
THOSE ARE HIGHLY VISIBLE LOTS THAT BACK UP TO THE 287 CORRIDOR OR TO THE, YOU KNOW, WALTER STEPHENSON CORRIDOR THERE. AND THERE ARE FOLKS THERE HAVE BEAUTIFUL BACKYARDS. AND THERE ARE FOLKS IN THERE WHO DO NOT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT TYPE OF FENCING BOTH GET EXPOSED TO A HIGH VOLUME OF TRANSPARENCY.
AND SO I THINK TRYING TO ENSURE WHERE WE HAVE LOTS BACKING UP TO OPEN SPACE TO PROVIDE FOR THAT ESTHETIC BENEFIT TO THE HOMEOWNER, BUT ALSO A PRIVACY BENEFIT WHEN THERE IS SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC EITHER RIGHT OF WAY OR TRAIL THAT'S RUNNING VERY CLOSE TO THOSE IS THE AREAS WHERE I SEE WE'VE CREATED UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
SO YEAH, SO THERE IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, WE COULD PUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S A LOT BACKED INTO A TRAIL WITHIN 50FT THAT IT HAS THE OPTION OF THAT OR THE WOOD HAS TO BE CONSISTENT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HODGEPODGE. LOOK, I THINK WE COULD PUT THAT IN THERE. OKAY. YOU KNOW THAT TRAIL, THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR ALIGNMENT BASED ON GRADING THE FINAL DESIGN.
ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THE PARK DESIGN, THAT TRAIL SHOULD BE HORIZONTALLY IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. SO I THINK WE COULD BUILD SOMETHING IN THERE JUST FOR WHERE LOTS BACKED UP. WHEN THERE'S A TRAIL WITHIN, SAY, 50FT, IT'S EITHER A SOLID WOOD FENCE OR THE, THE METAL FENCE. IT HAS TO BE CONSISTENT IN THOSE SPOTS.
AND THEN IF YOU FLIP BACK TO YOUR FENCE PLAN AGAIN, RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
YOU HAVE A SMALL OPEN SPACE LOT RIGHT NORTH OF WHERE IT SAYS EAST AREA.
IT'S A LINEAR PARK. YEAH, YEAH. SO I MEAN THAT THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE IT'S LINEAR PARK. AND THEN RIGHT AWAY, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER VERY HIGHLY VISIBLE AREA.
THERE'S NO SAFETY CONCERNS THERE BECAUSE THERE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT CREATES A LOT OF VISIBILITY. SO I AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE AN AREA WHERE I'M LOOKING AT IT GOING, IS THAT REALLY A NECESSARY THING THERE? BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE CREATING THE POTENTIAL FOR A PROBLEM AND NOT REALLY PROVIDING MUCH IN THE WAY OF BENEFIT.
THE THERE IS THIS, THE GOAL HERE IS A LINEAR CONNECTION TO TRY TO CONNECT THE PARK OVER THERE. THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME GRADE CHANGE IN THERE TO THESE LOTS WILL PROBABLY BE HIGHER. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING TO ME.
IT'S A GREAT THING IF YOU'RE, IF YOUR TRAIL IS, YOUR ROAD IS SIX FEET LOWER, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO VISIBILITY ISSUE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, BUT I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A VALIDITY THERE TO, TO LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION AS WELL.
THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE? CLARK? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
JUST. I'M GOING TO REPEAT THE COMMENTS I MADE ON THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN PLENTY OF PLANNING MEETINGS WHERE WE SAY WE WANT TO GROW LIKE A TREE. WE WANT TO PUT ALL OF OUR DENSITY IN THE CENTER AND PHASE OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO THEIR DEFENSE, THEIR MATCHING LOT SIZE AROUND IT, TO SOME OF THE STUFF AROUND IT. THERE'S ACRE STUFF TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S ACRE STUFF TO THE NORTH. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF HITTING THAT THRESHOLD AGAIN.
I KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR, BUT I ALSO KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN CALLED FOR ON TOWER, WHICH IS ONE THAT HAD HIGHER LOTS WHERE WE LET Y'ALL HAVE SMALLER LOTS.
AND SO I THINK LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS THIS GIVE AND TAKE.
AND I JUST THINK WE'RE, I THINK ONCE WE PASS MASSEY MEADOWS, WE'VE HIT THE THRESHOLD OF WHERE IT NEEDS TO TRANSITION BACK INTO LARGER LOTS.
AND SO I JUST I CAN'T GET BEHIND IT.
SO I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE CLARK IS COMING FROM ON THAT.
HOWEVER, IF YOU IF YOU LOOK JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS, THERE IS THE LONG BRANCH SUBDIVISION, THE MEADOWS AT LONG BRANCH SUBDIVISION.
AND IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE WEST BETWEEN MOCKINGBIRD AND FM 1387, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE HAVE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, YOU KNOW, ARTERIALS OF WALNUT GROVE OF ONWARD MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF RECTANGULAR SEGMENT THAT COMES DOWN HERE REALLY TO WHERE THE LONG BRANCH SUBDIVISIONS AND, AND MEADOWS AT LONG BRANCH EXIST.
IS THE BAND IN WHICH THIS TYPE OF DENSITY SHOULD OCCUR, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE TWO MAJOR TRAFFIC EAST WEST ARTERIALS BETWEEN FM 1307 AND WHAT MOCKINGBIRD HAS PLANNED TO BE.
YOU HAVE MULTIPLE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTORS THAT THE CITY CONTROLS.
YOU KNOW, STARTING AT AT BRYSON LANE AND THEN HAYES ROAD AND THEN WALNUT GROVE AND THEN
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ONWARD AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.SO I DEFINITELY AGREE, AS YOU GET FURTHER NORTH AND SOUTH FROM HERE, THAT THERE, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING THE APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY CONTROLS TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT. BUT THIS AREA, I THINK, FILLS IN THE GAP AND PROVIDES THAT MUCH NEEDED NORTH SOUTH RELIEF ON HAYES ROAD.
THAT KIND OF COMPLETES THAT WHOLE SEGMENT IN THAT, THAT RECTANGULAR AREA.
SO I DEFINITELY AM SENSITIVE TO YOUR CONCERNS IN THAT REGARD, BUT I THINK THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THIS SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATING THE OPEN SPACE, THE THOROUGHFARE CONNECTIVITY IS, IS APPROPRIATE AND I THINK BENEFICIAL TO THE REGION MORE SO THAN SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T ALLOW THAT SAME KIND OF CONNECTIVITY.
NO I'M NOT. I MEAN, I FULLY AGREE WITH THE ROAD.
THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE A BOND FOR THAT.
BUT MY, MY ONLY THING AND IS, AND I'VE SET UP HERE FOR GOING INTO OR I'M IN MY THIRD TERM, SO I GET IT.
BUT I LOOK BACK AND I THINK ABOUT THE DECISIONS WE MADE IN THE PAST. IF YOU LOOK AT MIDLOTHIAN AS A SQUARE, WE HAVE TAKEN HIGH DENSITY FROM THE CENTER OF TOWN TO 663, THE CITY LIMITS FROM THE CENTER OF TOWN TO THE EDGE MAX DENSITY.
THEN IF WE TAKE FROM CENTER TO THE EAST, WE PHASED OUT INTO INDUSTRIAL AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES ALL THE WAY TO MANSFIELD.
IF WE GO TO THE NORTH, WE LUCKILY.
THANK GOD WE DIDN'T RUN A SEWER LINE UP THERE BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE DON'T HAVE DENSITY AND IT'S THE ONLY REASON WE DON'T HAVE IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO SEWER LINE. NOW WE GO EAST AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME EXACT THING AND IT'S THE SAME THING I BROUGHT UP WITH THE BRIDGEWATER. IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT. IT'S NOT THE LANDOWNERS FAULT. IT'S NOBODY'S FAULT.
BUT AT SOME POINT I KIND OF LOOK AT IT LIKE AN ENGINEER AND THE GUY THAT'S ACTUALLY GOT TO BUILD IT, THE GUY THE ENGINEER LOOKS AT A PIECE OF PAPER SAYS, THIS IS GREAT. NO OFFENSE, MIKE. AND THEN THE BUILDER GETS ON THE GROUND AND GOES, WHAT IN THE HECK IS THIS DUDE THINKING? AND SO TO ME, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE HIT A POINT.
RICHARD WAS HERE EARLIER IN 2021 AND OR 2020, 2019. SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
IT'S ALL A BLUR NOW. WE ALL SIT AROUND A TABLE AND SAID, WE WILL NOT DO 70 FOOT LOTS AND UNDER ANYMORE.
LIKE WE CAN'T AND WE'RE DOING IT.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S COUNCIL'S CHOICE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I'M JUST THE GUY THAT'S GOING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS ALL STARTING TO BE TOO MUCH FOR ME.
I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY AT ALL.
FULLY AGREE WITH IT. YOU SHOULD SELL IT AND DEVELOP IT.
I'M JUST SAYING, AT WHAT POINT DO WE PHASE THE DENSITY BACK OUT FROM THE DENSITY THAT WE'RE AT? SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
I'M NOT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT AGAINST THE HOUSES, JUST AGAINST THE DENSITY.
WELL, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, THERE'S IT'S MORE OF A, I GUESS, A WAGON WHEEL THAN IT IS A BULL'S EYE. RIGHT. AND THAT THAT'S THE WAY THIS FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HAS BEEN STYLED FOR.
I MEAN, ALL OF MY ADULT LIFE THAT I'VE BEEN PART OF 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT UPDATES TO THE SAME THING IS WHEN YOU HAVE A MAJOR ARTERIAL LIKE 287, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE INTENSIVE USES ALONG IT.
WHAT I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT TEX DOT'S ULTIMATE PLAN FOR FM 663.
I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE A SIX LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE STATE SAYS.
IT'S GOING TO BE AT MAXIMUM BUILD OUT.
RIGHT. SO THAT CORRIDOR IS GOING TO HAVE MORE INTENSIVE USES.
FM 1387 SAME THING. YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE ALONG THOSE INTENSIVE CORRIDORS THAT ARE THAT ARE DESIGNED TO BE MAJOR PEOPLE MOVING CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF, OF INCREASED DENSITY THERE SO THAT WE CAN PRESERVE ALL OF THE BALANCE OF OUR PROPERTY THAT WE'VE GOT IN COUNTRY MODULE THAT WE HAVE IN LOW DENSITY MODULE.
AS YOU GET FURTHER OUT FROM THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENTS IN THOSE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, THE ONLY REASON WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED NORTH IS BECAUSE TWO CEMENT PLANTS BORDER US AS OUR GATEWAY FROM THE NORTH THAT HAVE QUARRY AND BUFFER LAND. SO WHETHER WE HAD SEWER UP THERE OR NOT, YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY OWN IT ALL, OR THEY'VE GOT BUFFER RIGHTS TO ALL OF IT UP THERE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S, BUT FOR A LACK OF SEWER, IT'S BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT 67 CORRIDOR ALL THE WAY THROUGH TOWN.
BUT FOR THE SMALL PORTION THAT IS FROM NINTH STREET TO 287 IS, IS, HAS BEEN AND WILL BE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
INDUSTRIAL AND NOT JUST LIKE WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL, LIKE REAL INDUSTRIAL, WHERE WE'RE MELTING CARS AND WE'RE COOKING, YOU KNOW, LIMESTONE INTO CEMENT.
AND THOSE THINGS PROVIDED A LOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY GROWING UP HERE, THAT A COMMUNITY OF OUR POPULATION SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THE BENEFIT TO ENJOY BECAUSE OF THAT HUGE TAX BASE THEY PROVIDE.
SO AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THIS SITS WITH EXISTING ON THE GROUND DEVELOPMENT, IT IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE TO FILL IN THE GAP BETWEEN MASSEY MEADOWS AND
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LONG BRANCH SUBDIVISIONS.AND IT PROVIDES THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE THOROUGHFARE CONNECTION THAT HELPS TO RELIEVE THOSE CORRIDORS AND PROVIDE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE ABOUT THAT REGION WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THAT SINGULAR POINT OF FAILURE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WALNUT GROVE IN 1387.
AND YES, WE HAVE A BOND APPROVED TO BUILD HALF OF HAYES ROAD, BUT NOT THE OTHER HALF.
RIGHT. AND THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD THEN BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR PORTION OF IT AS WELL.
ALONGSIDE THE CITY IS THE WAY THOSE TYPICALLY OCCUR.
SO I THINK THAT GETS US TO FOUR LANES FASTER THERE ALL THE WAY FROM 1387 TO MOCKINGBIRD AND ALLOWS US TO WORK ON CONNECTING MOCKINGBIRD BACK TO MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY INTO WALNUT GROVE. OKAY, ANNA.
THE ONLY THING I'LL MENTION IS THE PARK IS A MAJOR DEAL TO ME.
SO CRAZY. EXCITED ABOUT 54 ACRES.
HOWEVER, ON THIS ONE, HAYES ROAD IN THE PARK ARE MAJOR THINGS FOR ME. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW ABSOLUTELY HAPPY I AM WITH THE PHASING OF THE AMENITIES BASED OFF OF THE PERMITTING.
THAT MAKES ME VERY, VERY HAPPY. AND I WISH WE DID IT WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, MIKE.
I'LL ONLY AGREE. I'M NOT ONLY I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH CLARK.
I WOULD ONLY SAY WITH THIS BEING MY LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THAT COUNCIL HAS THE POWER TO CHANGE ALL THIS.
YOU GOT IT. YOU GOT THE POWER TO DO IT.
AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT OUR COMP PLAN SAYS TO DO AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE GETTING KIND OF STUNG A LITTLE BIT IS IF IT'S THE WRONG THING TO DO.
AND WE HAVE A DIFFERENT I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT WE SAID GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2011. WHAT ARE OUR THOUGHT PROCESS OF HOW THE FLOW OF DENSITY WOULD ROLL? AND IT'S ALL OUT OF WHACK NOW.
BUT WE USED TO HAVE THE OLD THEORY OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE NORTHEAST REGION, BUT BY THE TIME YOU GOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 287, THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE A LITTLE MORE DENSE.
BUT AS YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE, THE 1387 ROLLING OUT TOWARDS TWIN CREEKS WAS A REALLY NICE SUBDIVISION OUT THAT WAY.
BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE, YOU'VE GOT AND THEN YOU ROLL INTO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LONG BRANCH, WHICH THAT'S KIND OF COPYING NOT THE SAME BUILDING VALUATION, BUT THE SAME LOT SIZE, STYLE AND WHATNOT.
THIS IS KIND OF A COPY OF THAT FLOWING THROUGH, BUT YEAH, CLARK. YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE OF COURSE, YOU REMEMBER, WE ALWAYS THOUGHT, WELL, WE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 875 AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR 3 TO 4 2 TO 4 ACRE LOTS ARE. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD ALL THAT COUNTRY MODULE.
AND THAT IS HARD TO MAKE THAT WORK WITH DEVELOPMENT NOW, BUT I'LL ONLY LEAVE COUNCIL WITH AS I LEAVE.
OF COURSE, CLARK, YOURSELF AND ROSS, YOU ALL SIT ON THE REWRITE FOR YOUR, YOUR ZONING AND ORDINANCE RULE BASED ON GROUPING ALL THAT TOGETHER AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT. SO I WON'T SAY YOU'RE CONTROLLING THAT, BUT YOU GOT SOME INFLUENCE THERE.
AND THIS COUNCIL CAN, AT ANY TIME, I WOULD THINK, AMEND THE COMP PLAN IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND MAKE CHANGES WHERE YOU'RE VERY WISELY STATING AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME STANCE OF, OH YEAH, 3.5% BELONGS HERE.
AND THEN WE SIT HERE AND GO, WHY IS THAT COMING AT US? WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE COMP PLAN SAYS AND IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
SO IF THE RESIDENTS THINK SO, WHICH THAT'S KIND OF A LOT OF WHAT I'M GETTING. BUT AS FAR AS WHAT OUR COMP PLAN SAYS, THIS IS KIND OF IT AND WE DO NEED HAYES ROAD COMPLETED.
I KNOW THAT. OKAY. I THINK THAT WE'VE WHIPPED THIS HORSE PRETTY GOOD.
IS THERE ANY MOTIONS THIS EVENING? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION TO DO YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO THE SIDEWALKS ON THE LEFT SIDE.
OKAY, WELL, THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.
I DON'T HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE.
IF WE HAVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDING SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES, SO DID P AND Z. ARE YOU RECOMMENDING WHAT THE DEVELOPER REQUESTED, WHICH IS SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE? I DON'T KNOW. NOW I'M QUESTIONING MYSELF.
IT'S UP TO YOU. YOU GOT A MOTION, SO FINISH IT OUT.
MAKE YOUR MOTION. CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE SIDEWALKS? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE GOING EARLIER. I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT. WOULD IT HAVE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES? BOTH SIDES? I WOULD. DO YOU ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT.
I'LL TAKE THE AMENDMENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT LOTS ADJACENT TO TRAILS OR RIGHT OF WAYS BEING WITHIN 50FT OF THE LOT LINE WHERE GRADE SEPARATION IS
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LESS THAN SIX FEET, DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE NOT OR THEY CAN HAVE NON OPAQUE FENCING.OKAY, SO I'M MOVING TO APPROVE WITH WHAT ROSS JUST SAID.
DID Y'ALL GET ROSS'S AMENDMENT.
I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO IT CAN BE BASED ON EACH PROPERTY OWNER.
NO, I WANT IT HAS. IT HAS TO BE.
IT HAS TO BE. OKAY. OKAY. YES.
THE LOTS ADJACENT TO THE TRAIL TRAIL OR TRAILER RIGHT OF WAY WHERE THE GRADE SEPARATION IS LESS THAN SIX FEET.
TRAILER. WHEN THE TRAILER OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS WITHIN 50FT OF THE LOT LINE.
IS THAT CLEAR? ARE YOU GOOD THERE? THAT'S MY MOTION. I GOT IT WRITTEN DOWN.
WHEN A TRAILER RIGHT OF WAY IS WITHIN 50FT OF A REAR LOT LINE.
THE FENCE MOTION. I SHALL BE OPAQUE.
IF IT'S GRADE. SEPARATED BY LESS THAN SIX FEET.
CLEAR, JOE. OKAY. MOTION ON THE TABLE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND.
SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ROGERS.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 5 TO 2.
OKAY. BACK TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, 2026 125.
[2026-125 Consider and act upon a resolution of the City Council of the City of Midlothian, Texas, approving the terms and conditions of the development agreement between the City of Midlothian and Bloomfield Homes, L.P. for the development of ±248 acres of land located within the city limits, more commonly known as Rancho Lago; and providing for an effective date.]
CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RESOLUTION.THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. BLOOMFIELD FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 248 ACRES LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS RANCHO LARGO, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. HEY, HOW ARE Y'ALL? THIS LOOK FAMILIAR? SHE WROTE IT DOWN.
I'M SORRY. CLIFF'S NOTES VERSION. I MEAN, IT'S ONLY A 70 PAGE ORDINANCE.
NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. SO THIS IS WHAT WAS JUST APPROVED IN GENERAL.
SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS EVER SINCE THEY BROUGHT THIS TO THE WORKSHOP IS IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS 54 ACRE PARK, WE WOULD BUILD ALL FOUR LANES OF HAYES ROAD.
I KNOW THAT'S REALLY WEIRD BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY DON'T BUILD THE DEVELOPER PORTION OF A ROAD, BUT IN EXCHANGE FOR US BUILDING ALL FOUR LANES OF THIS, THEY WILL SPEND NOT LESS THAN $3.3 MILLION ON THE PARK.
AND THE WAY THAT IS CALCULATED IS IT'S ABOUT $1.2 MILLION FROM THE DEVELOPER FEES FOR THE PARK DEDICATION. AND THEN AT LEAST ANOTHER 1.1 FOR THE CURRENT ESTIMATED COST OF HAYES ROAD.
THE DEVELOPER PORTION PROVIDED THAT THE TOTAL COST OF THE HAYES ROAD DEVELOPER PORTION SHALL BE DETERMINED AT COMPLETION OF THE HAYES ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND COMMUNITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AMENDED TO REFLECT THE FINAL COST OF THE HAYES ROAD DEVELOPER PORTION.
SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES THAT ARE UP HERE.
SO ONCE WE GET THE BIDS, WE'LL NAIL DOWN THE THE ACTUAL COST.
AND THAT WILL PARLAY INTO THE ACTUAL COST THAT BLOOMFIELD WILL BE SPENDING ON THE 54 ACRES HERE. SO AND THEN ALSO WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS, BUT THE DEVELOPER WILL BE CONSTRUCTING IT, SO WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.
WE'LL GET PAY APPS FROM THE DEVELOPER AND AS THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING IT AND WE WILL BE PAYING FOR IT. AND THIS IS FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR LANES FROM THIS CONNECTION UP HERE.
I FORGET THAT SUBDIVISION JUST SOUTH OF MOCKINGBIRD ALL THE WAY TO FARM TO MARKET.
1387 SO THAT IS THE CLIFF NOTES.
I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? TAMMY. OKAY. ARE WE DETERMINING HOW THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON THE PARK? I'M SORRY. ARE WE DETERMINING HOW THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON THE PARK? YES. YEAH.
THOSE DESIGNS WILL BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH HEATHER.
THIS WILL ALSO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ALSO PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WILL BE RAISING ABOUT $30 MILLION TO FINANCE FINANCE THOSE THINGS AND THE PROJECTED ANNUAL ASSESSMENT LEVEL, WHEN AGGREGATED WITH ALL THE OTHER TAXING AGENCIES, IS TWO POINT OR $2.90 PER $0.90 PER $100 VALUATION.
IS THAT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM? I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
OKAY. OKAY. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS.
I'M STILL WRITING SOMETHING FOR JOE AND COME BACK TO YOU.
MIKE. NO, LET ME TURN THE LIGHT OFF.
I'M SORRY. I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
IS THIS. THIS IS VOTING ON THE PYD ALSO, OR JUST THE.
BUT IT'S NOT THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN. THEY'LL HAVE TO BRING BACK THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN TO DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THOSE MONIES WITHIN
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THIS DEVELOPMENT. OKAY.I KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO GO, BUT I'LL MAKE MY OPINION KNOWN. I SAID IT IN THE WORKSHOP. NOTHING AGAINST THE SUBDIVISION.
I JUST WHEN YOU LOOK AT BRIDGEWATER AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR MONEY VERSUS WHAT THE AMENITIES WERE ON THIS ONE, THAT WAS AN MMD.
I KNOW THAT JUST ANOTHER ALPHABET SOUP.
YEAH. I DON'T THINK IT GETS UP TO THAT.
AND THEN LASTLY, I THINK DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PAY FOR THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE.
OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS CASE.
TAKE A MOTION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SURE. THE PARK WOULD BE GIVEN TO THE CITY AND THAT'LL BE WHAT WE WILL MAINTAIN AFTERWARDS.
YES. YEAH. THOSE 54. THEY WILL BE PART OF CITY PROPERTY.
OKAY. YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOT A.
YEAH. NO, SIR. IT WILL BE CITY PROPERTY.
THE MOTION TO DENY. ON THE TABLE.
SECOND. SECONDED BY MOTION TO DENY.
BY COUNCILMAN MORMON. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN.
FAILS 4 TO 3. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE.
2026 126. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
[2026-126 Consider and act upon a reimbursement agreement between the City of Midlothian and Bloomfield Homes, L.P. for the reimbursement of certain costs incurred related to the creation of a Public Improvement District.]
MIDLOTHIAN. BLOOMFIELD FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF CERTAIN COSTS INCURRED RELATED TO THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.I FORGOT. THAT WAS ME TOO. THIS IS WE'VE DONE THIS WITH ALL OUR SPECIAL DISTRICTS.
THEY FUND A OR THEY THEY FUND A FUND FOR US.
BASICALLY, THEY PUT IN $15,000 AT THE BEGINNING.
AND THEN THAT COVERS ALL OUR COSTS WITH THE PIT ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS P THREE. THEY HELP US OUT POTENTIAL LEGAL COSTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. IF THAT, AS WE WORK DOWN IN THAT FUND AND IT GETS BELOW $5,000, THEY HAVE TO REPLENISH THAT FUND BACK UP TO $15,000.
SO BASICALLY, THIS DOESN'T MAKE US PAY JUST GENERAL TAXPAYER MONEY ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THEY ARE FUNDING THIS DEVELOPMENT ON OUR COST.
AND FOR US, OUR ATTORNEYS AND BOND CONSULTANTS, FINANCIAL ADVISORS, ETC..
OKAY. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? TAMMY? OKAY. YOU GOT A QUESTION? NO MOTION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND.
MOTION TO APPROVE IS PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN MORMAN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. LET'S VOTE. THIS ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.
[2026-128 Consider and act upon authorizing the City Manager to enter into negotiations with Waste Connections to execute a contract to provide Solid Waste and Recycling Services for the City of Midlothian.]
CONSIDER AN ACT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH WASTE CONNECTIONS, TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT TO PROVIDE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES FOR THE CITY. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.I'LL BE BRIEF OR TRY TO BE THIS IS THIS ITEM IS CONSIDERING A NEW CONTRACT WITH WASTE CONNECTIONS.
THIS CONTRACT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1ST.
WE'RE BRINGING A LITTLE BIT EARLY BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A CHANGE IN SERVICE AND NEW EQUIPMENT WILL HAVE TO BE PURCHASED.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS CONTRACT IN EFFECT.
SO WASTE CONNECTIONS WILL BE ABLE TO BUY THAT EQUIPMENT.
THIS IS AN INITIAL TERM OF FIVE YEARS WITH TWO FIVE YEAR TERM EXTENSIONS.
SO THE INITIAL TERM WILL END 73131.
AND THE FIRST ATTACHMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE IS A RATE COMPARISON FROM THE CURRENT CONTRACT TO THIS NEW CONTRACT, AND THEN ALSO EXHIBIT A TO THE CONTRACT ALSO GOES THROUGH THOSE RIGHTS, AND THERE WILL BE SOME RATE INCREASES FOR BOTH THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS.
THOSE PRIMARILY HAVE TO DO WITH INCREASED COSTS OF BUSINESS, BUT ALSO THIS CHANGE IN SERVICE THAT WE WILL HAVE PARTICULARLY WILL IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. WE WILL GO TO AUTOMATED CARTS FOR BOTH TRASH AND RECYCLE PICKUP.
THOSE WILL BE 95 GALLON FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
THERE'LL BE SOME HAND PICKUP THAT WILL BE DONE IN TOWN.
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WHEN THERE'S NARROW ALLEYS OR THERE'S SOME OF THE SMALLER COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WILL STILL HAVE THAT. THERE'S ALSO AS THE SENIORS AND DISABLED CAN HAVE SPECIAL PICKUP ASSISTANCE BECAUSE I KNOW HISTORICALLY THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR SOME OF THE RESIDENTS.SO THE SECOND ATTACHMENT TO THE AGENDA ITEM IS THE CONTRACT ITSELF.
AND THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT THE RESIDENTIAL TRASH WILL STILL BE PICKED UP TWO TIMES WEEKLY. ALL THE TRASH MUST BE INSIDE THE CARTS.
AND THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL ABILITY TO DO ADDITIONAL PICKUP BEYOND THE CARD ITSELF, BUT THE CARTS HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE TRASH IN THE BINS, AND THEN RECYCLABLES WILL BE PICKED UP TWO TIMES MONTHLY.
AND THIS DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL REPORTING OR ENHANCED REPORTING FOR THE CITY THAT WILL HELP US TRACK THE SERVICE.
BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT HAVE.
WHAT ABOUT BULK? IS THE BULK THING STILL THE SAME? THE BULK WILL STAY THE SAME.
I SHOULD REMEMBER IT. I'VE LOOKED AT IT SO MUCH, BUT IT'S LIKE, IS IT THREE FOOT BY.
YEAH. YEAH. AND IT WILL, IT CAN JUST BE PUT OUT ON THE CURB.
SO IT'LL BE PICKED UP LIKE IT HAS BEEN.
WELL THAT WAS, I WAS TRYING TO SKIM QUICK, BUT YES, IF YOU CANNOT FIT EVERYTHING INSIDE YOUR CART, THEN THERE ARE PINK TAGS THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE FROM UTILITY BILLING AND THEY CAN PUT ON BE PUT ON THE BAGS AND THE BAGS CAN BE PUT ON THE CURB BESIDE THE CART.
THAT WILL ALLEVIATE FOR, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S HOLIDAYS AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRASH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR AN EXTRA CART.
AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON A PRICE FOR THE PINK TAGS, AND IF THERE'LL BE AN INTRODUCTORY PERIOD FOR THOSE TO BE FREE.
I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED WHEN WE HAD OUR WORKSHOPS.
AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS MORE THAN ONE CARD, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO PAY FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE.
YES. I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE MY PASSION FOR COMMUNICATING THIS WELL IN THE LEAD UP.
AND YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW COMPLAINTS UNTIL YOU SEE TRASH ISSUE COMPLAINTS.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE FOR US TO DO A FANTASTIC JOB IN COMMUNICATING VERY THOROUGHLY AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THAT.
I'M ALL OVER I WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO BE WELL AWARE OF THE CHANGES THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY BE COMING AS A RESULT.
MAIN THE EXTRA CART IS AVAILABLE FOR RECYCLABLE RECYCLABLE.
ALSO, IF SOMEBODY WANTED THAT INSTEAD OF YES, YOU CAN DO BOTH. OKAY.
I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. WHAT WAS IT? SOMEBODY REMIND ME. OH, THE CURRENT CARTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE A WAY TO GET RID OF THOSE, OR ARE THEY GOING TO PICK THOSE UP AND THROW THEM AWAY IF WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP THEM? INSTEAD OF HAVING FOUR OR 5 OR 6 CARTS IN OUR GARAGE, AFTER WE GET THE OLD ONES AND KEEP THE OLD ONES AND GET THE NEW ONES.
AND YES, ALL NEW CARTS WILL BE DELIVERED AND THEY WILL ALL HAVE SIGNAGE ON THEM EXPLAINING WHAT, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M RECYCLING WHAT'S RECYCLABLE.
SAME FOR THE TRASH. AND SO THE EXISTING ONES THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE CANNOT BE USED ANY LONGER. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE DONE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT.
THEY SAID THEY WOULD PICK THEM UP. Y'ALL, Y'ALL WILL HAUL THE OLD ONES OFF IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET RID OF THEM. I COULDN'T REMEMBER A SIGN ON IT.
SAY, PLEASE TAKE ME OR YEAH, IT'S REAL HARD TO THROW A TRASH CAN AWAY.
I HAVE TRIED THAT, AND SHORT OF GETTING A SAWZALL OUT AND CUTTING IT UP INTO PIECES SO YOU CAN STUFF IT INTO ANOTHER TRASH CAN.
IT'S REAL HARD TO GET THEM. PICK ONE. IT'S HARD TO GET RID OF THEM. IS THERE GOING TO BE A CLEAR METHODOLOGY THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE IN THAT REGARD? YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR SPOKE TO THE THE NEED FOR GOOD COMMUNICATION.
BUT HOW HOW TO HAVE THEM PICK UP THE ONE THAT NO LONGER THEY WILL PICK UP THE TRASH OUT OF WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT. WHAT IF THERE'S 2 OR 3 INSTEAD OF ONE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE 3 OR 4 OF THEIR OWN CARTS THAT ARE SMALLER.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS.
I CAN TOUCH ON MATT MEYERS WASTE CONNECTIONS.
I CAN TOUCH ON THE COMMUNICATION PIECE. OBVIOUSLY, AUGUST 1ST IS THE GO LIVE.
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WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEND OUT MAILERS TO EVERY RESIDENT. IT'S GOING TO BE A TRIFOLD PACKET WITH EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE. IN ADDITION TO RECLAIMING THE CARTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR POSSESSION CURRENTLY AND THE PINK TAGS, WE WANT THOSE TO GO OUT MID-JUNE.WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DROP OFF PINK TAGS BY JULY 1ST, SO PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT 30 DAYS TO GO AND ACTUALLY GET THE PINK TAGS.
SO COME AUGUST 1ST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO PUT THEM ON THE CARTS AND THEN ON. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. WE'LL TOXINS AND WASTE CONNECTIONS.
SO COLLECTION OF THE EXISTING CARTS.
WE'RE STILL RUNNING OUR REAR LOAD TRUCKS TO COLLECT BULK.
SO THROUGHOUT THAT FIRST MONTH OF AUGUST, WE'LL TAKE THOSE EXISTING CARTS THAT RESIDENTS NO LONGER WANT.
IF THEY JUST PUT IT OUT AT THE CURB, WE'LL GO AND COLLECT THOSE.
AND TO ADD TO THE COMMUNICATIONS, I KNOW LORI AND I HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT COMMUNICATION AS WELL.
SO WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACT, SO AND I WILL GET HER IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WAS GOING TO BE WE WERE GOING TO ADD A QR CODE AT THE TOP OF THE THE CARTS THEMSELVES SO PEOPLE COULD SCAN TO GET FURTHER INFORMATION.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. SO THE QR CODES, IT'S OUR VENDOR PARTNERS KIND OF CHANGE WHAT THEY DO. IT'S MOLDED INTO THE LID OF THE CART ITSELF.
SO AS IF THE CARTS OUT IN YOUR BACKYARD, GETTING THE ELEMENTS ON IT OR SUN BEATING ON IT, IT DOESN'T FADE OVER TIME.
WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON WHAT THAT LANDING PAGE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE ONCE YOU SEE A QR CODE, YOU CAN KIND OF PIVOT.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE CITY WEBSITE, OR WE DO OUR WEBSITE, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT THAT WILL GIVE RESIDENTS ANOTHER FORM OF ENGAGEMENT TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS QUICKLY, AS OPPOSED TO CALLING US OR CALLING THE CITY.
THEY CAN GET QUICK ANSWERS RIGHT THERE IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD.
SO IT'S PRETTY REALLY COOL THAT STUFF THAT THEY HAVE.
IN ADDITION, THERE'S ALSO INSTRUCTIONAL DECALS THAT WE HAVE ON WITH THOSE, THOSE LIDS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS RECYCLABLE, WHAT'S NOT RECYCLABLE.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE BINS AND THE CLEAR RECYCLE BAGS, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY LITERATURE OR FORM OF COMMUNICATION ON WHAT THAT IS.
SO EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE REALLY CLEAR DEFINITIONS OF WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE FIXATED RIGHT THERE ON THEIR CARTS. GREAT.
OKAY, WHAT ABOUT THE AREAS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE NOT ON OUR WATER? THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE DONE THE SAME WAY THAT IT'S BEING DONE IN TERMS OF PEOPLE DOING THEIR OWN CARTS. I MEAN, I JUST DID THIS FOUR MONTHS AGO WHERE I WAS OUT ON APPLE LANE, ALWAYS BRINGING IT DOWN A QUARTER OF A MILE TO THE ROADWAY THAT WAS PART OF THE CITY, BUT I WASN'T ON CITY WATER.
AND AND SO I HAD A DIFFERENT BILL FOR PICKING UP AND PAYING THAT SEPARATELY PERSONALLY FOR ALL THIS TIME. AND NOW I BUILT A HOUSE.
I'M IN THE CITY. IT'S REALLY NICE.
I LIKE THIS. BUT IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE DONE THE SAME WAY WITH ALL THOSE THAT ARE NOT ON THE CITY? YEAH, I THINK ROUGHLY THERE'S ABOUT 3300 FOLKS THAT WE BUILD DIRECTLY FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT ON CITY, CITY UTILITIES, NO CHANGE IN SERVICE FOR THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR OWN CARTS. I WOULD IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ACCOUNT SET UP RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME LEARNING CURVES WITH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON ON THE CAD WITH ELLIS COUNTY AS WELL, AND MAYBE THE CITY UTILITY ON MAKING SURE WE'RE RECONCILING ALL OF OUR ADDRESSES IN THE CITY, TOO, BECAUSE IT IS FOLKS ON UTILITY BILLING AND FOLKS THAT WE BUILD DIRECTLY.
SO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET BOTH THE LISTS JOINED UP AND MARRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TOUCHING EVERYBODY THAT WE NEED TO.
RIGHT. WELL, I COULD SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO MEAN A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUCK.
I WOULD ASSUME IF THEY'RE STILL USING THEIR OWN AND THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT USING ONE OF THESE NEWER ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN LIFT UP AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GET CALLS FROM THOSE.
SINCE I LIVED OUT THERE FOR 26 YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO ALL CALL ME.
WELL, LET ME CLARIFY. I MEAN, THOSE FOLKS WILL WILL GET ISSUED THE SAME CARDS AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GETTING BILLED SEPARATELY, THEY'LL ALL HAVE THE SAME SERVICE. SO YOU LIKE FOR YOU, I'M ON THAT SERVICE.
SO YOU WILL JUST DRAG THEIR CART THE SAME PLACE YOU WERE DRAGGING YOUR EXISTING CART.
SO EVERYBODY WILL HAVE THE SAME CARTS AND THE SAME SERVICE.
THEY'LL JUST BE BILLED BY A DIFFERENT ENTITY. AND SOME OF THOSE, LIKE WHERE I LIVED. I MEAN, I HAVE TWO YOUNG LADIES THAT BOUGHT THAT PLACE. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOAD UP THEIR BIGGER CART INTO A TRUCK AND MOVE IT DOWN A QUARTER OF A MILE TO UNLOAD IT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE PICKED UP.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR THEM. I MIGHT HAVE TO JUST WRITE THEM A NOTE AND SAY, I'LL COME PICK IT UP AND MOVE IT DOWN FOR YOU.
YEAH, THAT, THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE AN ISSUE. IT IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER CART THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GET TO WHATEVER LOCATION IT IS THAT THEY NEED TO PICK IT UP.
SO JUST, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
SO ON HERE ON THE CURBSIDE TRASH, IT'S TWICE A WEEK AND THAT'S THE RESIDENTS GET ONE TRASH CAN AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE SIZE OF WHAT ONE TRASH CAN THEY GET.
BUT WHAT WAS THAT? 95 GALLONS.
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95 GALLONS FOR BOTH SIDES.CORRECT. OKAY, SO THEY GET ONE TRASH CAN, 95 GALLON.
SECOND QUESTION. AND I KNOW THIS ONLY AFFECTS LIKE 3%, BUT IT IS A VERY CONFUSING TO THIS DAY.
SO IF THEY ARE IN DOWNTOWN OR ANY HOUSE OR ANY PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN REZONED TO COMMERCIAL AND THEY'RE USING RESIDENTIAL TRASH BINS, THEY JUST GETTING ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL TRASH BIN.
YEAH, THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH CARTS.
OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEY, I MEAN, A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL USES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA USE CARTS RIGHT NOW, SO.
OKAY. AND I KNOW SOME OF THEM USE LIKE THREE, 4 OR 5 RIGHT NOW. SO I GUESS THEY JUST GO BY AS MANY AS THEY NEED.
WELL, YEAH, THEY'LL DELIVER ONE.
YEAH. BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR WASTE.
BUT THEY CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL ONES.
BUT THERE IS A COST FOR EACH ADDITIONAL CART.
YEAH, BUT FOR THE BUSINESSES, LIKE I MEAN, YOU GO DOWN THE BACKSIDE OF EIGHTH, I MEAN, THEY, THEY'RE FILLING UP 2 OR 3 TRASH CANS EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS SO THEY CAN GO BUY ADDITIONAL TRASH CANS OR.
WELL, WELL FROM WHAT? WASTE CONNECTIONS.
YEAH. IT'LL BE A WASTE CONNECTION CAN AND IT'LL HAVE THEIR COST.
AND THAT'LL JUST BE INCLUDED IN YOUR BILL EACH TIME.
YEAH. I GUESS WHEN I SAY BUY, I MEANT LIKE.
YEAH. SO IT'S A MONTHLY CHARGE.
I THINK THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION.
SO I KNOW WHEN WE HAD MET WITH YOU, ALL YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY PICK UP THE BAG TRASH ANYMORE? YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE ARM TRUCK THAT Y'ALL WERE GETTING AWAY FROM MANNED TRASH PICKUP AND THAT THIS WAS CHEAPER.
SO TO THAT POINT, EVEN THOUGH WE PICKED THE CHEAPER ROUTE, IT'S A 25% INCREASE IN COST.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE GOING BACK TO OCTOBER, RIGHT. SO OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT EXPIRES AT THE END OF JULY. THERE WAS A SYSTEM CHART IN THERE FOR RATE ADJUSTMENTS. THAT SYSTEM CHART HAD SOME KIND OF NUANCES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO OF THE FIVE YEARS NEGATIVE RATE ADJUSTMENTS. SO PART OF THIS AND WHY THE COMMERCIAL AND ROLL OFF IS GOING UP AND THE RESIDENTIAL IS CHANGING.
WE'RE BRINGING CPI. SO WHAT SHOULD CPI HAD AFFECTED OUR RATES IF WE'VE JUST DONE GARBAGE AND TRASH. SO THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS HAS AN INDEX CALLED GARBAGE AND TRASH 100% RELATED TO OUR INDUSTRY.
AND THE NEW AGREEMENT WILL HAVE THAT AS WELL. SO THE RATEPAYERS IN MIDLOTHIAN ARE ONLY AFFECTED BY WHAT WE'RE AFFECTED BY.
RIGHT. THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE THE NORM OF WHAT'S OUT IN THAT INDEX.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS I THINK THE BRIDGE, IF YOU HAD THE CURRENT AGREEMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, WE SHOULD BE ABOUT 1720 CURRENTLY.
SO IN REALITY, IF YOU JUST TOOK WHAT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, IF THAT SYSTEM CHART WASN'T IN PLACE, IT'S REALLY A SLIGHT RATE REDUCTION.
SO REALLY IT'S JUST A BRIDGE OF CPI AND THEN A CHANGE IN SERVICE.
OKAY. BUT YOU'RE SAYING IF WE WOULD HAVE STUCK WITH THE OLD ONE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A 17% INCREASE OFF THE ORIGINAL PRICE OR FROM THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
YES. SO THE ORIGINAL WAS WAS 13 AND SOME CHANGE IT WOULD HAVE GONE TO 17 IF YOU JUST BRIDGED CPI. WHAT WAS THE CHANGE IN GARBAGE AND TRASH SINCE 2021? OKAY, MAYBE I'M LOST, BUT THIS ONE THAT I HAVE HERE HAS A 25% INCREASE ON RESIDENTIAL TO 1338.
YEAH. SORRY. YEAH. IT'S THE RATE ITSELF. YEAH. THE 25% WAS THE WHAT, WHAT CPI ACTUALLY WAS IMPACTED ON THE RESIDENTIAL RATE BECAUSE OF THAT SYSTEM CHART. IN OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT WE ACTUALLY HAD NEGATIVE RATE ADJUSTMENTS.
SO AS YOU AS I RECALL, 2020 122 HYPERINFLATION.
OUR RATES ACTUALLY WENT BACKWARDS. SO WE'RE PAYING OUR DRIVERS MORE. WE'RE PAYING MORE FOR TRUCKS AND STEEL, RIGHT? THE NUMBER ONE COST THAT WE HAVE IN OUR INDUSTRY IS STEEL AND LABOR COSTS.
SO WE'RE INCREASING COSTS THERE.
BUT OUR RATES ACTUALLY WENT BACKWARDS. AND IT WAS JUST THE WEIRD NUANCE OF THAT SYSTEM CHART THAT WAS IN THAT AGREEMENT.
OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN SOMEONE JUST REMINDED ME ON THE STICKER.
SO IF I FILL UP MY 95 GALLON, I HAVE THREE LOOSE BAGS.
I JUST PUT A STICKER ON THE THREE LOOSE BAGS AND SET THEM NEXT TO MY TRASH. THAT'S IT? YEAH. THAT'S IT. OKAY.
YEP. ALAN TO WHAT YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH THE PINK TAGS, DO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE IF WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THOSE ON THE FRONT END? IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT TONIGHT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING JUST FOR LATER? I WOULDN'T THINK TONIGHT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT AND DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY IF IF YOU IF WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THOSE HOW MANY WE'RE GOING TO GIVE.
I DO KNOW OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THEM, THEY CHARGE A NOMINAL AMOUNT JUST TO COVER THE COST BECAUSE WE'LL GET CHARGED FOR THE TAGS, BUT IT'S, IT'S A MINOR COST.
SO YEAH. GOTCHA. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY TO, TO GO INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
I WILL MAKE A NOTE. THE TAGS THEMSELVES ARE FULLY PROVIDED BY WASTE CONNECTIONS.
THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND PROCURE THOSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY COME IN 10,000 COUNT ROLLS, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY LAST IN LOXAHATCHEE WHERE WE USE THEM. THEY LAST ABOUT NINE MONTHS WHEN WE BUY THE BIG SPOOLS.
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GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. TAKE A MOTION.WELL, I JUST WANT TO ONE LAST THING.
I THINK WE SENT IT OUT THE WEEKLY REPORT. BUT THE PLAN IS RIGHT NOW, UNLESS YOU ALL TELL ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IS TO HAVE BLACK TRASH CANS AND BLUE RECYCLING CARTS, AND THEY WILL JUST SAY MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS WITH THE CITY LOGO ON THE SIDE EMBOSSED ON THE SIDE.
SO I KNOW SOME HAVE GREEN TRASH CANS OTHER.
BUT WE WE'RE RECOMMENDING BLACK WITH THE LOGO, SO. BIG DEAL. YEAH, IT'S IMPORTANT AS LONG AS IT'S NOT GREEN OR MAROON.
OKAY. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN MOORMAN.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 1.
THANKS. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH AGAIN.
2026 129 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF FISCAL YEAR 26 THROUGH 31 STRATEGIC PLAN AS A
[2026-129 Consider and act upon adoption of the FY 2026-2031 Strategic Plan as a planning document for the City of Midlothian to include personnel and capital equipment for the General Fund, Utility Fund, Conference Center, Ellis County Radio, Senior Citizen Center, and Hotel Motel Fund.]
PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, INCLUDING ALL THE VARIOUS BUDGET DEPARTMENTS.WELL, AND I WILL BEGIN BY EMPHASIZING THAT THIS IS A PLAN THAT WE'RE ADOPTING.
IT IS NOT COMMITTING ANY FUNDS TONIGHT THAT WILL COME WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE BUDGET.
BUT I'LL RUN THROUGH IT REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE.
SO THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE IN THERE IS OUR CALENDAR.
THAT'S THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE BUDGET CALENDAR.
AND IT WILL SHOW ANYONE WHO PULLS THIS UP IN THE AGENDA THAT THE SCHEDULING OF THE MEETINGS, THE SCHEDULING OF THE ACTUAL BUDGET ADOPTION GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT, THROUGH ALL OF OUR WORKSHOPS TO THAT.
THE VERY FIRST SPREADSHEET IS JUST A MULTI YEAR CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN CAPITAL AND PERSONNEL SUMMARY.
IT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT AN AMOUNT THAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR TAX NOTE RECOMMENDED TO BE TABLED TO FUTURE YEARS BY THE CITY MANAGER.
AND SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THOSE ARE PLACEHOLDERS RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC AMOUNTS FOR THOSE AND THAT IS CITY WIDE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A GENERAL FUND SECTION.
JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT ONE REAL QUICK AND THE OTHERS WILL FOLLOW.
YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING BY A MULTI YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN BY DEPARTMENT AND BY CATEGORY.
THEY'RE BASICALLY THE SAME INFORMATION.
YOU HAVE A BASE BUDGET, THE SUPPLEMENTAL AS WE ALWAYS HAVE.
AND THEN THE TOTAL PROPOSED WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL WE ARE PLANNING, WE HAVE A PLANNED DEFICIT TO DRAW DOWN FROM THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE.
AND RIGHT NOW IT SITS AT 5,400,000.
FLIP OVER A COUPLE OF MORE PAGES AND YOU CAN SEE JUST THE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS BY DEPARTMENT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
AND YOU CAN SEE, AS I MENTIONED ON ANOTHER PAGE, THE CITY MANAGER HAS RECOMMENDED SOME ITEMS FOR TAX NOTES.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PUSHED TO FUTURE YEARS.
AND YOU HAVE THAT FOR EACH DEPARTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO STOP ME, LET ME KNOW.
I'LL BE GLAD TO. WELL, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THE 5.4 YOU QUOTED WAS SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS. THE DRAW DOWN WAS 02,000,008.95.
AND THEN SEVERAL PAGES BACK, YOU HAVE A SHEET.
IT'S THE END OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST.
AND THAT WILL JUST SHOW YOU A SUMMARY OF THE PERSONNEL THAT IS FOR THE FIVE YEARS THAT IS NOT FOR ONE YEAR. SO IF YOU SEE THAT TOTAL NUMBER OF POSITIONS, AGAIN, THAT'S FOR THE FIVE YEARS THEMSELVES.
AND WE ALSO HAVE BROKEN THAT DOWN AS FAR AS THERE'S A PERSONNEL TOTAL, THERE'S A CAPITAL TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN THERE'S A REVENUE OFFSET.
NOW SEVERAL THINGS CAN BE PAID FOR BY IMPACT FEES.
AND SO WE HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
AND THEN YOU DO HAVE A GENERAL FUND SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST.
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AGAIN THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY SHEET.IT'S RIGHT BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE UTILITY FUND.
AND THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED AND WHAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR A POSSIBLE TAX NOTE.
YOU'RE TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE SUPPLEMENTAL BY DEPARTMENT SEVERAL PAGES. WELL, YOU HAVE ONE GENERAL.
THERE'S IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE.
IT'S IT'S PORTRAIT. IT'S RIGHT BEFORE THE UTILITY.
YEAH, THOSE THOSE ARE ALL BY DEPARTMENT.
AND SO INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THOSE.
UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE THIS SHEET WHICH DOES AGAIN SHOW THAT THE SUPPLEMENTAL IS ROUGHLY 05,000,009 60 FOR UTILITY FUND.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE SAME SETUP YOU HAVE THE PLAN BY DEPARTMENT AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE BY CATEGORY AGAIN THE BASE BUDGET DOES NOT SHOW A DEFICIT. WE DO HAVE LISTED ALMOST $12 MILLION WITH SUPPLEMENTAL.
AND THEN THAT WOULD SHOW A TOTAL PROPOSED DRAWDOWN OF FUND BALANCE FOR 9.9 MILLION.
AND THEN AGAIN, AS WE HAD IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE PAGES THAT WILL GO THROUGH AND SHOW YOU THE INDIVIDUAL PROPOSED ITEMS FOR THE UTILITY FUND. I'LL POINT OUT ONE PARTICULAR ONE AND THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR IT.
IF YOU LOOK UNDER THE ID 38003 THAT IS THE TAME AND WATER PLANT EXPANSION.
THAT IS ESTIMATED TO BE A VERY LARGE PROJECT.
AND SO IT SHOWS 144.3 MILLION.
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PHASES.
AND AT THE BOTTOM THERE'S A NOTE THAT TALKS ABOUT THOSE.
THE IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID CALCULATION.
WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THE FISCAL YEAR 2627 IS PROPOSED TO BE CASH FUNDED, AND 27 THROUGH 31 ARE PROPOSED TO BE PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED WITH A REVENUE BOND.
AND THEN I'LL ALSO POINT OUT AND MY COPY IS REALLY TINY.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE PLUS SIGN BY A NUMBER OF THESE AT THE END OF THE TITLE, THOSE WILL POSSIBLY BE IMPACTED BY IMPACT FEES FROM THE REVENUE OFFSET WILL BE REVENUE OFFSET FOR THOSE. SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THE SUMMER.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR TOTAL ESTIMATES AT THE VERY END.
THEN THE ELLIS COUNTY RADIO FUND, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A FAIRLY SMALL FUND. IT DOESN'T CARRY A LOT OF BALANCE.
AND THIS IS A FUND THAT WE BILL, THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
AND SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A BASE BUDGET ON THAT ONE OF 145 977.
WE HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL PROPOSED OF 207,000 613 AND THEN YOU GET A TOTAL PROPOSED OF A DEFICIT OF 61636 THE SENIOR CENTER THAT ONE WE HAVE BALANCED THE PROPOSED BASE BUDGET, BUT THEN WE HAVE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS THERE THAT TOTAL 83,000.
SO AS PROPOSED, IT WOULD BE A -83,000 FOR THE FIRST TIME.
AND WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER IN THE EVENING.
CHRIS MENTIONED THAT THE HOTEL MOTEL FUND, WE HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
AND FOR NOW, WE HAVE BUDGETED THAT WITH THE BASE BUDGET SURPLUS WOULD BE
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2475. THE 250,000 WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER AS THE VISITORS BUREAU AND THE MUSEUM.AND THEN DURING THE SUMMER WE WILL LOOK AT FUNDING FOR THAT, WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL ALL BE HOTEL, MOTEL OR SOME OTHER.
THE CONFERENCE CENTER AGAIN, THAT ONE, WE'VE BUDGETED IT AT A ZERO BASE BUDGET, BUT THEN WE HAVE SOME REQUESTS FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT WOULD BRING THAT TO A -123 70 IF THAT IS APPROVED.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE FUNDS OR ANY OF THE NUMBERS.
I KNOW I ROMPED THROUGH IT QUICKLY.
ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ROSS.
SO THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS WE, I KNOW THIS IS PROJECTION AND A PLANNING TOOL, BUT DO WE HAVE A WAY TO PROJECT WHAT THE NET EFFECT ON THE FUND BALANCE WOULD BE ITSELF? LIKE? WE KNOW THAT THIS IS THE AMOUNT IT COULD GO UP OR DOWN BASED UPON WHETHER WE'RE USING FROM THE FUND BALANCE OR ADDING TO THE FUND BALANCE.
RIGHT. BUT WHAT IS THE FUND BALANCE IN EACH OF THOSE PERIODS PROJECTED BASED ON THE AND I DON'T HAVE IT PROJECTED TO YEAR END.
I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY DONE THAT, BUT I DO HAVE THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE DIFFERENT. WELL, FOR GENERAL FUND AND UTILITY FUND AS OF TODAY.
BUT WITH WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO PROJECT AND AMEND THE 2020 526 RIGHT.
AND WE'RE PROJECTING THE 27, 26, 27, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH ONE OF THOSE SUMMARY CHARTS FOR EACH FUND. HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE THINK WE'LL BE AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN BASED ON THAT ACTIVITY AND THE EFFECT OF IT, THIS IS WHERE IT WILL BE THE NEXT. AND I WOULD ALSO LOVE A FOOTNOTE FOR EACH PERIOD AS TO WHAT WE PROJECT THE DAILY COST TO BE OF THE CITY.
I THINK THAT'S THOSE ARE THINGS WE'RE CONSTANTLY DISCUSSING, RIGHT? IS HOW MUCH IS ONE DAY, HOW MANY DAYS OF RESERVES DO WE HAVE? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE? SO AND WE OFTEN SEE THE ACTIVITY INTRA PERIOD, BUT I WANT TO SEE IT IN YEAR PERIOD.
AND THE BALANCE SHEET IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT. SO I FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT P AND LS AND PROJECTIONS, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ITS ACTUAL EFFECT WOULD BE ON CASH BALANCE, THE BALANCE SHEET SIDE OF THE EQUATION FROM A PRIVATE SECTOR ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT.
YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE PAST, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT.
I THINK THAT MIGHT SAVE US A LOT OF HIP POCKET ACCOUNTING AND MATHEMATICS AND PUTTING YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT. IF WE JUST HAD THAT INFORMATION CHARTED ALONGSIDE.
YEAH, WE COULD JUST ROLL IT IN THROUGH TO THIS.
WE JUST HAVE NOT DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
YEAH. AND FOR ME, JUST ON THE SUMMARY PAGE FOR EACH FUND, NOT IN THE DETAIL SHEETS.
OKAY. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.
THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL JUST TO HAVE IN FRONT OF ME.
REALLY, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS WE WILL BE GETTING A NOTEBOOK WITH PAPER.
YOU WILL. AND SEEING ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, I LOOK THROUGH IT BEFORE TODAY, BUT IT WOULD BE REAL NICE TO BE TO, TO GET TO THAT POINT, TO REALLY HAVE IT IN THE NOTEBOOK FORM.
I CAN MAKE NOTES, SCRATCH OUT THINGS, REMIND MYSELF.
YEAH. I MEAN, YOU DEFINITELY WILL GET THAT FOR THE BUDGET.
AND WE USED TO DO THAT FOR THIS.
SO I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE NOTEBOOKS FOR THE NEW ONE FROM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT IF YOU COULD PUT ONE IN MY BOX, IT SURE WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.
THE OLD MAN, I CAN GIVE ANYBODY THAT WANTS 1AA SMALLER NOTEBOOK THAT HAS THIS IN IT BECAUSE YES, I HANDWRITE A LOT OF NOTES MYSELF, SO I UNDERSTAND. ONE HEATHER.
I DIDN'T SEE MY ICE SKATING RING IN HERE.
NO, BUT I DID SEE LIKE A DOWNTOWN MAINTENANCE PERSON.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THE NEW PARK HAS WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND THEN I'M CURIOUS ON THE STREET SIDE, ON THE STREET RESURFACING AND REHABILITATION BECAUSE WE ACCELERATED SO MUCH IN 2026 FIVE, WHATEVER YEAR WE'RE IN.
BOTH IS LIKE THIS IS THIS 2.7 CARRYING FORWARD?
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I KNOW IT CHANGES SOME TWO, SIX, 2.6, 2.4.WOULD THAT HAVE RESTORED US TO WHAT WE WERE NORMALLY SPENDING BEFORE? THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST A ONE YEAR OR KIND OF BACK TO NORMAL.
I MEAN, EASING BACK DOWN TO NORMAL LEVELS AT LEAST, IS THE PLAN. YEAH. AT LEAST THAT'S THE PLAN.
OKAY. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I THINK WAS A WAS A HAPPY COINCIDENCE WITH ACCELERATING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TALKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS THAT THERE WAS SOME MORE ECONOMY OF SCALE WE WERE GETTING DUE TO THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE WERE BIDDING.
SO I THINK THERE IS SOME, SOME, SOME CONCEPT THERE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO DO A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AN EVERY OTHER YEAR DEAL ON THAT WHERE WE'RE DOING A, A LARGE, A LARGER AMOUNT AT ONE TIME TO GET THAT ECONOMY OF SCALE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME WHERE WE'RE SPENDING MORE PER UNIT BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER PROJECT.
I THINK THAT'S A FUN DISCUSSION AS WE GET INTO THE BUDGET SIDE.
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. SO JUST LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND MULTI YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN BY DEPARTMENT, THE THE SUMMARY IS WHAT I'M CALLING THAT.
ALL WE HAVE FOR RIGHT. WE HAVE THE BASE PROPOSED 26.
27. THEN WE HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL COLUMN, AND THEN WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED FOR TAX NOTE AND A CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED FOR A FUTURE BUDGET CYCLE.
YES. SO IS THE SUPPLEMENTAL COLUMN COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF THE TWO COLOR CODED COLUMNS? YES. SO THERE IS NO CROSSOVER BETWEEN ANY OF THOSE.
SUPPLEMENTAL IS THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
NOTHING IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL IS IN THE TAX NOTE COLUMN VICE VERSA.
YEAH. SO BASICALLY IF YOU WOULD HAVE IF YOU HAD SUPPLEMENTAL PLUS THE TAX NOTE PLUS THE PUSH, THAT'S WHAT THE INITIAL REQUEST WAS RIGHT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAD THIS IN THE PAST, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL SEES EVERYTHING THAT THE DEPARTMENTS WERE REQUESTING, WHETHER WE CHOOSE TO PUSH THEM OUT OR NOT.
BUT THERE IS NO OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE THREE.
OKAY. BUT THOSE THREE AGGREGATE TOGETHER AND MAKE THE TOTAL DEPARTMENTAL REQUEST.
THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN IN THE THE COLUMNS THAT ARE FURTHER OUT IN THE FUTURE 27, 28, 29. 30. YOU KNOW, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE BASICALLY TOTAL ASK.
YEAH. THAT WAS NOT SPLIT OUT INTO THOSE THREE. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO RECONCILE BECAUSE OUR SUPPLEMENTAL IN 2627 IS 5.4.
AND THEN WE ROLL TO 2728 AND IT'S 13.4.
BUT IF I AGGREGATE THOSE THREE, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.
YEAH. YOU MAKE MORE SENSE. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET THIS KIND OF MAYBE POSSIBLY FUNDED.
YEAH. AND SO TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S A DAY OF FUND BALANCE. WELL, JUST DOING THE MATH. IF WE DID THE TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET OF 73,000,005, 80 DIVIDED BY 365, IT'S ABOUT 201,000 A DAY, GIVE OR TAKE.
SO THAT 2.89 YOU WOULD LOWER FUND BALANCE BY ABOUT 14 DAYS.
NOW I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF FUND BALANCE TODAY.
WE CAN GET THAT. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE I GET WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
ARE WE GOING TO END THE YEAR WITH 200.
AND THEN THIS BRINGS IT DOWN TO 185.
IF IT'S 15 DAYS. SO WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.
WELL THAT'S REALLY WHERE I WANT TO SEE IS, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHERE IT IS TODAY IS GREAT FROM A FISCAL STEWARDSHIP STANDPOINT, MAKE SURE WE'RE IN A GOOD SOLVENT POSITION.
BUT KNOWING WHERE IT'S AT ON DAY 365 IS MORE IMPORTANT FROM A FISCAL PLANNING PURPOSE.
AND WE STILL HAVE SOME PROJECTS, IF YOU'LL RECALL, LIKE AVENUE F AND ONE, I'LL CALL OUT. WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THAT YET.
SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A PLAN.
DRAW DOWN A FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVEN'T APPROVED YET.
SO WE WILL AS WE GET CLOSER, WE'LL KNOW WHETHER WE'RE FUNDING ALL OF THAT PROJECT OR, OR ANY OTHER PROJECT FOR THAT MATTER.
SO WE'LL SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE AMENDED 25, 26 OR NO. YES, THAT WOULD BE IF IT WANTS.
IF IT GETS IT'S NOT REFLECTED HERE.
IS THERE A WAY THAT FOR THOSE I GUESS THOSE AREN'T RESERVE FUNDS, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE THEY ARE RESERVED. YEAH. THEY WERE RESERVED. THEY WERE UNRESERVED FUNDS. AND WE HAD SAID THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO. BUT UNTIL WE GET THE ENGINEERING BACK AND DECIDED WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER.
SO THOSE WOULD BE DISCRETIONARY RESERVE FUNDS.
CORRECT. RIGHT. SO EVEN IF WE COULD BREAK THAT OUT TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO GRANULAR WITH IT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS TRUE UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE AND WHAT IS THE COEFFICIENT THAT WE HAVE RESERVED IN A BUDGET CYCLE, BUT WE HAVE NOT ALLOCATED AS OF YET.
SO BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT, THAT'S THE STUFF THAT IS NOT IN ANY OF THE CHARTS. RIGHT. AND THAT MAY BE HARD TO ENCAPSULATE IN A CHART, BUT IF WE'VE SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO EARMARK $1 MILLION FOR, YOU KNOW, THE AVENUE F PROJECT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST YET OR IF WE'RE EVEN GOING TO SPEND IT IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND WE'RE WRESTLING AT BUDGET TIME, I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT KIND OF WHAT, WHAT IS THE TRUE UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE ABOVE THE COUNCIL'S COMFORT LEVEL WITH DAYS
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OF RESERVE AND CAN THAT BE ALLOCATED ON CAPITAL PROJECTS OR OTHER THINGS? AND WE WILL HAVE THAT JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. WE GET IN THE BUDGET, WE WILL WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THAT. WE'VE JUST NEVER PUT IT IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE IT FOR THE BUDGET. OKAY.YEAH, I MEAN, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
YEAH, I JUST FOR MY PURPOSES, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT KIND OF AT VERY KNOWING THAT IT'S FUZZY MATH AT THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT, WELL, IT'S PROJECTIONS BASED ON PROJECTIONS, RIGHT? I GET THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL IMPORTANT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT IF IT'S NOT TOO ONEROUS ON STAFF TO WORK THAT IN, IN THE FUTURE ON STRATEGIC PLANNING, WORK ON THAT. OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT? MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT OR APPROVE.
MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMONDS TO APPROVE.
PLEASE VOTE. I WANT TO ADOPT ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.
CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF THE MCDK AND
[2026-130 Consider and act upon a resolution authorizing an expenditure by the Midlothian Community Development Corporation in the amount of $2,462,318.75 for redemption prior to maturity of their Sales Tax Revenue Bonds, Taxable Series 2014.]
THE AMOUNT OF $2,462,318.75.REDEMPTION PRIOR TO MATURITY OF THEIR SALES TAX REVENUE.
SO THIS AGENDA ITEM THE MC D ON APRIL 23RD JUST RECENTLY. AND THEY DID DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND DEFEASE OR PAY OFF THE BONDS THAT THEY HAD THAT WERE 2014. THE INTEREST RATE WAS 4% THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR IT WAS GOING TO BE 4.12. AND THEN THEREAFTER UNTIL FINAL MATURITY, IT WAS GOING TO BE 5.5%.
IF THEY WERE TO ISSUE BONDS TODAY, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE NO MORE THAN 4.15% AND POSSIBLY LESS. SO, THEIR ACTUAL SAVINGS.
BY DOING THIS REDEMPTION, THE NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS WAS 595,900 9687. THEY DID DECIDE TO PAY THIS IN CASH.
IF YOU RECALL, THEY HAD THE MEZZANINE LOAN FOR THE MARRIOTT AND THAT WAS PAID AND THEY HAD DECIDED TO PUT THOSE FUNDS IN THEIR DEBT SERVICE FUND AND NOT PAY THE DEBT OFF.
BUT THEY HAVE DECIDED AT THIS POINT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
ROSS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I LOVE WHEN WE PAY DEBT EARLY MOTION TO APPROVE.
MELISSA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR ARE YOU GOOD? MOTION TO APPROVE UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.
2026 131 CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A BID AWARDING MECA CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR THE 26 MIDLOTHIAN
[2026-131 Consider and act upon a bid award to Meca Construction, LLC for the 2026 Midlothian Sidewalk Program Project – Phase 1 in a bid amount of $818,625 plus a 15% contingency of $122,793.75 for a total amount not to exceed $941,418.75.]
SIDEWALK PROGRAM PROJECT PHASE ONE AND AMOUNT OF 818,625 PLUS 15% CONTINGENCY OF 12279375 FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $941,418.75.THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL. THIS IS WHAT THE COUNCIL AND LAST BUDGET YEAR.
REALLY THOUGHT THEY WANTED TO PRIORITIZE DOWNTOWN WALKABILITY AND SIDEWALKS.
AND WE DID HIRE KIMLEY-HORN TO GO THROUGH THIS PROJECT AND DESIGN A LOT OF THE DOWNTOWN SIDEWALKS. THEY'VE DESIGNED MORE THAN THIS, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THIS IS WHAT WE CAN REALLY AFFORD. AND WITH THIS WE ARE RECOMMENDING MECCA CONSTRUCTION LLC. THEY'RE THE LOWEST QUALIFIED BIDDER IN THE AMOUNT OF EIGHT, 18, SIX, 25, $818,000, $625.
AND THAT IS WITH THAT ALTERNATE AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THESE ARE THE THE PURPLE ONES ARE THE ALTERNATE.
WE WEREN'T SURE EXACTLY WHERE THE COST WAS GOING TO COME IN, BUT THEY, IT DID COME IN BETTER.
SO HERE WE HAVE CITY HALL, AVENUE EAST.
SO IT'S ALL KIND OF TO WEST AND NORTH OF OF CITY HALL.
AND OF COURSE, AVENUE F IS RIGHT HERE.
AND WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING KIMLEY-HORN COMPLETE THE DESIGN ON AVENUE F.
SO I GOT DJ EARLY HERE THAT OUR STREET SUPERINTENDENT THAT HELPED OUT TREMENDOUSLY ON THIS PROJECT. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN DIRECT THEM TO HIM.
OKAY. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ANNA.
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WHAT WAS THE METHOD OF CHOOSING THIS SECTION? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT.SO IT'S JUST KIND OF PROCEEDING DOWN.
AND AS SOON WHENEVER Y'ALL ALLOCATE MONEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE DOWN MORE AND MORE AND MORE OF THESE, THESE SIDEWALKS.
SO THEY'LL ALL BE ADA ACCESSIBLE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING THAT HAS TO GO INTO IT TO GET THE SLOPES RIGHT, TO GET THE PITCH RIGHT, TO GET THE CURBS, CURB THE TRUNCATED DOMES, ETC., CORRECT CROSSINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST, AND MAYBE CLARK WILL, BECAUSE I'M JUST HEARING CLARK IN MY HEAD TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS IN DOWNTOWN.
SO I KIND OF PICTURED STARTING LIKE IN THE ACTUAL CENTER OF DOWNTOWN AND MOVING OUT.
WELL, BUT I ALSO HEARD IN THAT SAME BUDGET MEETING OR THAT SAME BUDGET MEETING, AND THEN ALSO A RETREAT THAT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN HAS TO GET DONE AND THEN DOING COMPLETING THAT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS IS AVENUE F, SO THAT'S.
HENCE THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT TOUCHING AVENUE F REALLY AT ALL.
ANOTHER ONE IS THE REDESIGN OF EIGHTH STREET HERE.
AND REALLY ONCE YOU GET DOWN, IF YOU GET DOWN TO THIS DOWNTOWN WITH THE ADA, IT'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PROBABLY MONEY AND CAPITAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE SIDEWALKS, MOVE ROADS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, BUT. I'M JUST GLAD I MADE A LASTING IMPACT.
BUT NO, I MEAN, I, I WOULD THINK THAT OR WOULD LIKE, I DON'T THINK I WOULD LIKE THAT AT SOME POINT WE ADDRESS EIGHT.
BECAUSE I, I HAVE HAD TO PUSH SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR FROM. EIGHTH TO VILLA AND IT IS, IT'S A MISSION. YEAH. I MEAN, SO YOU BETTER HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS A STRONG BACK AND A WEAK MIND. WELL, AND I HAVE REQUESTED PARK HILL TO GIVE US AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WOULD COST OR OPINION OF PROBABLE CAUSE TO COMPLETE EIGHTH SOUTH OF THE HERITAGE PARK, BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
SO I KIND OF WANT JUST TO SEGUE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO DESIGN THAT WHILE THEY'RE DESIGNING, OR IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR EIGHTH, EIGHTH ACROSS FROM CITY HALL AND HERITAGE PARK. SO KIND OF WANT TO COMBINE THAT THOSE TWO PROJECTS. NO, I MEAN, I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START.
I MEAN, I, I MEAN, I FIGURED F WAS NOT TOUCHED BECAUSE OF THE, THE OTHER PROJECT, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT START.
I FIND THIS ENCOURAGING THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME SIDEWALKS DONE.
FROM WHAT I'VE KIND OF FOLLOWED WITH ESPECIALLY WHEELCHAIR ACCESS THE MAIN FOCUS SEEMS TO BE AROUND DOWNTOWN AND ALSO ALONG THE MAIN STREET.
DEFINITELY. SO EVEN ODDLY, NOT ODDLY ENOUGH, BUT ODDLY ENOUGH MAIN STREET, FIRST THROUGH EIGHTH.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN THERE, AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE SIDEWALKS THAT JUST AREN'T, ESPECIALLY AT INTERSECTION POINTS THAT DON'T ALLOW FOR GOOD WHEELCHAIR TRANSIT.
AND THAT'S I, THAT'S NOT QUANTIFIED IN HERE.
IT'S NOT BROKEN OUT, BUT I BET A LOT OF OUR COST IS THE GEOMETRY OF THE INTERSECTION WITH WELL, AND PLUS YOU GOT, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OPEN DITCHES.
SO THAT MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.
SO SO THE ONLY REAL CONCERN THAT I HAVE, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE, AND I'LL BRING IT UP AGAIN IN LEAVING, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON THESE SIDEWALKS. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO KIND OF LIKE REPOUR THEM IN PLACE, BUT KIND OF GET THE, THE LEVEL OF THOSE SIDEWALKS CORRECT.
BUT I DOUBT THAT. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEMO SOME TO GET WELL.
KNOW WHAT I MEAN IS DEMO THEM, BUT THEY'LL GO IN THE SAME PLACE THEY WERE BEFORE. SO IF GEOMETRY ALLOWS IT.
YES. SO SO MY QUESTION REVOLVES ONCE AGAIN, AS I BROUGHT UP MANY TIMES WITHOUT A FIRST THROUGH 14TH ENGINEERING PLAN, HOW DO WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING THEM IN THE RIGHT PLACE? HOW DO WE DO? I MEAN, I LOOK AT OUR I MEAN, THESE ARE SIDEWALKS.
THEY'RE GOING ALONG THE BLOCKS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES AND IN FRONT OF THE. I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS SIDEWALKS ARE A RELATION TO STREET WIDTH AND RELATION TO UTILITY, FUTURE UNDERGROUND UTILITY PLACEMENT, WHERE WE'VE RUN INTO SOME ISSUES EVEN.
I HEARD SOME QUESTIONS RECENTLY IN A RECENT EASEMENT PAVED PARKING CASE TO WORK.
WHEN YOU MEASURE THE DEPTH OF THE PARKING SPACES, CARS WILL BE HANGING INTO THE STREET.
IT'S A WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO START ONCE AGAIN.
I'LL LEAVE IT ALONE NOW, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'VE GOT TO INVEST IN A
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SOME. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DIVIDE IT IN HALF AND GO FIRST TO EIGHTH AND THEN EIGHTH TO 14TH LATER. AND I'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS OF, WELL, IT'S ON THE COMP PLAN.STAFF JUST NEEDS TO GET THE TAPE MEASURE OUT AND THEN GO AND MEASURE ALL OF IT.
I DON'T I DON'T GO FOR THAT EITHER, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT, IT PUTS RESIDENTS AT A, A, AT A IN A BAD POSITION BECAUSE IT CREATES DEVELOPMENT THAT'S WRONGLY PLACED.
THAT WILL BE WRONG IN 20 OR 30 YEARS, WHICH WE COULD FIX WITH THE PLAN NOW.
MOVE TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE.
COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.
THERE IS NO NEED TO TO HAVE DISCUSSION AROUND 2026.
133 AS THE PREVIOUS ITEM DIDN'T PASS THAT THE MMD.
NOW WE DON'T NEED THAT AT ALL, SO WE'LL SCRATCH THAT.
MOVING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
SESSION PURSUANT TO THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS ARE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION, BUT ANY AND ALL ACTION WILL BE TAKEN IN REGULAR OPEN SESSION. WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FOUR THIS EVENING. BOTH OF THEM ARE TITLED SECTION 551.07 FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT OR DUTIES OF PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE COMMUNICATION.SUPERVISOR ALSO PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT OR DUTIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE PARKS CREW LEADER AT 1016 WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE. WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESIDENT.
WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10:22 P.M..
WE DO HAVE ACTION TO BE MADE ON ITEM THREE.
PERSONNEL MATTERS DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT PUBLIC OFFICER COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR COUNCILMAN WEAVER AS A MOTION.
IS THERE ONE MOTION OR TWO? ONE.
OKAY. ONE MOTION THAT INCLUDES BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BEFORE ITEM THREE AND NUMBER FOUR GO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EMPLOY THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS AND COMPENSATE ABOVE THE MIDPOINT.
POSITION ONE COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR.
POSITION TWO PARKS CREW LEADER.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND.
PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 7 TO 0.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE TONIGHT AND YOUR ENGAGEMENT.
1023 ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.