[ Call to Order and Determination of Quorum.] [00:00:09] >> ALL RIGHT. IT IS 6:02. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. OUR FIRST ITEM OF AGENDA IS THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO IS NOT SIGNED TOWN SPEAK FOR SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA. JUST SPEAKING IN GENERAL. NO? [002 Introduction of Planning Director Andrew Bogda ] ALL RIGHT. I AM GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO Y'ALL FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ANDREW BOGDA. HE HAS BEEN WITH US ABOUT EIGHT DAYS, AND WE HAVEN'T RUN HIM OFF YET, SO HOPEFULLY Y'ALL WON'T ADD TO THAT OR ANYTHING. HE IS COMING TO US AS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLAN FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. HE HAD A STINT IN MANSFIELD, COFFMAN AND RICHARDSON, SO WELCOME HIM. GLAD TO HAVE HIM. HE IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WISE, AND HE'S ACTUALLY MOVING TO MIDLOTHIAN THIS WEEKEND, SO MOVING TO MIDLOTHIAN THIS WEEKEND SO HE IS WASTING NO TIME. LIKE TO INTRODUCE ANDREW. HE'S HAD SOME FUN PUBLIC HEARINGS AT CITY COUNCIL ON HIS SECOND DAY AND TWO FULL DAYS OF BUDGED BUDGET HEARINGS, SO HE IS WELL-SEASONED ALREADY. YEP. >> THANK YOU. >> GLAD TO BE HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US HERE TONIGHT. AND GERMANE RODRIGUEZ IS WELCOME TO PLANNING AND ZONING FILLING [003 Staff review of the cases that were heard by City Council in the last thirty (30) days ] SEAT 7. STAFF REVIEW OF CASES THAT WERE HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL IN THE LAST 30 DAYS. >> YES, GOOD EVENING VICE CHAIRWOMAN AND THE COMMISSION. SO I WILL GO OVER THESE WITH YOU, AND WE WILL ADVANCE THE SLIDE. SO AT THE JUNE 23RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A SECONDARY DWELLING UNIT WITH A SEPARATE ELECTRICAL SERVICE THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAD A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A COMMUNICATION TOWER AT 545BURKOKKAN STREET THAT WAS DENIED BY 4-2. WE HAD A SITE PLAN UPDATE FOR ENCORE'S CONTRACTOR SHOP AND ELECTRICAL STORAGE YARD AT 4700 HIGHWAY 67. THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAD A REZONING REQUEST FROM THE SF2 FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY, AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE AMENDMENTS FOR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT 23 AT OLD BB JONES ROAD. THIS WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 4-2. AND AT THE JULY 14TH COUNCIL MEETING JUST LAST WEEK WE HAVE A SECONDARY UNIT THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. A REZONING REQUEST FROM R3 TO THE URBAN VILLAGE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD191 FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USE AT 316 SOUTH PITT STREET. THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. AND THEN WE HAD AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A HOUSING UNIT THAT WAS APPROVED WITHOUT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE BY A VOTE OF 5-1. THE VARIANCES RELATED TO DRIVEWAY SPACING REQUIREMENTS AND THEN FINALLY WE HAD AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 179. THIS THE CRESTVIEW DEVELOPMENT AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST MAIN STREET AND HIGHWAY 67. CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO CONTINUE THAT INDEFINITELY. [004 Discussion on revisions to the sign ordinance to include internally illuminated signs ] >> THANK YOU. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON REVISIONS TO THE SIGNED ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE INTERNALLY ELIMINATED SIGNS. >> DANIEL HUMBER SENIOR PLANNER TO PRESENT. SINCE 2025 THE CITY REVIEWED EIGHT REQUESTS REVOLVING AROUND SIGN ILLUMINATION RESULTING IN APPROVALS, DENIALS, AND AMENDMENTS AND ONE PENDING CASE INCLUDING INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED MONUMENT SIGNS AND SIGNAGE, CABINET LIGHTING AND CONVERSIONS FROM EXTERNAL TO INTERNAL ILLUMINATION. STAFF ALSO REVIEWED FIVE PEER CASES. USES OPAQUE SIGN FACES ROUTED OR PUSHED THROUGH ILLUMINATED COPY, FIELDED ILLUMINATION. [00:05:05] THE GRAND PRAIRIE USES AUTOMATIC DIMMING, 0.25 CANDLE LIMIT ABOVE AMBIENT AND A 200-FOOT RESIDENTIAL SETBACK. FORT WORTH REQUIRES CONCEALED LIGHT SOURCES AND USES 150-FOOT LAMBERT LUMINESCENCE LIMIT. MANSFIELD PROHIBITS SHIELDING AND HIGH INTENSITY LIGHTING, GLARE AND I AM YES PAIRED VISION. PROHIBITS INTENSE GLARE AND LIGHT TRESPASS AND CONTROLS BEAM DIRECTION AT PROPERTY LINES. COMMON EXCEPTIONS INCLUDE EMERGENCY LIGHTING, HAZARD WARNING, COMMUNITY, STREET LIGHTING, AND TEMPORARY LIGHTING. PEER CITY REVIEW SHOWS THREE MAIN REGULATORY TOOLS. THE MEASURABLE BRIGHTNESS LIMITS AND RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY PROTECTION. THIS PROVIDES A COMMON VISUAL REFERENCE. THE SIGN REMAINS A MONUMENT SIGN. THE DISTINGUISHING FEATURE IS THAT THE ILLUMINATION ORIGINATES WITHIN THE SIGN RATHER THAN AN EXTERNAL FIXURE. THE ROAD MAP. THE ISSUE TOUCHES FOUR RELATED AREAS. ILLUMINATION STANDARDS AND RESIDENTIAL PROTECTION. THE LANGUAGE DRAFTED LATER IN THE PRESENTATION DRAFTED AROUND THOSE AREAS. ITS VALUE IS THAT IT CONVERTS BROAD POLICY CONCERNS INTO SPECIFIC REVIEWABLE STANDARDS. THE ORDINANCE ALREADY REGULATES MONUMENTS ON MATERIALS, VISIBLE LIGHT SOURCES, FEATURES AND IMPACTS ON ADJACENT RESIDENCIES. THE RECURRING UNCERTAINTY IS NARROWER. HOWEVER SIGNS SHOULD BE EVALUATED WHEN THE ACTUAL LIGHT SOURCE IS CONCEALED BUT THE LIGHT SOURCE OR COPY IS ILLUMINATED. THE DRAFT LANGUAGE FOLLOWING IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THAT GAP WITHOUT REPLACING THE PROTECTIONS THAT ALREADY EXIST. JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I HAVE THE SLIDES MIXED UP. GOING BACK THIS IMAGE DOES SHOW THAT ILLUMINATION METHOD IS ONLY ONE PART OF COMBATTABILITY. PLACEMENT LANDSCAPING AND BUILDING DESIGN ALL INFLUENCE THE FINAL RESULT. THE IMPORTANCE OF CLEAR ORDINANCE LANGUAGE IS THAT IT GIVES STAFF AND APPLICANTS A CONSISTENT WAY TO EVALUATE THOSE PROSER BEFORE A PROJECT REACHES THE COMMISSION. PROVIDE AN OBJECTIVE MEASUREMENT OF BRIGHTNESS. THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ALREADY USES THIS TOOL FOR ELECTRONIC MESSAGE CENTRES OR EMCS. THE BENEFIT OF USING A MEASURABLE STANDARD IS CONSISTENCY. IT GIVES THEM A CONSISTENT TARGET, GIVES STAFF A VERIFICATION METHOD, AND PREVENTS OBJECTIVE JUDGMENTS SUCH AS WHETHER A SIGN APPEARS TOO BRIGHT. HERE IN DEFINITIONS DRAFTED AS WELL. THESE CAN IMPROVE. NOT THE TERMINOLOGY ITSELF. THE BENEFIT IS THEY SEPARATE THE SIGN TYPE, CONSTRUCTION METHOD, ILLUMINATION METHOD WHERE EACH CAN BE REGULATED INDEPENDENTLY. IT ALSO CLARIFIES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ILLUMINATED SIGN FACE AND AN EXPOSED LIGHT SOURCE. THAT EXTINCTION IS CENTRAL TO INTERPRETING THE CURRENT PROHIBITION. CLEARER DEFINITIONS WOULD HELP THE APPLICANTS DESIGN CORRECTLY, HELP STAFF AND REDUCE INTERPRETATION DISPUTES. THE DRAFT LANGUAGE WOULD BE ADDRESSED IN ANSWER FORCEABLE WAY. IT WOULD INCLUDE THE ACTUAL LIGHTING EQUIPMENT TO REMAIN CONCEALED, ESTABLISH A MEASURABLE NIGHTTIME LIMIT, REQUIRE DOCUMENTATION SHOWING COMPLIANCE, RECOGNIZE AUTOMATIC DIMMING, AND CONNECT ILLUMINATED SIGNS TO PROTECTIONS. AL THE BENEFIT OF THIS LANGUAGE IS PREDICTABILITY. APPLICANTS WOULD KNOW THE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS BEFORE SUBMITTING. STAFF WOULD HAVE CRITERIA AND ENFORCEMENT ON DOCUMENTED STANDARDS RATHER THAN VISUAL OPINION. DRAFT ALSO GIVES THE COMMISSION SPECIFIC CONCEPTS TO EVALUATE RATHER THAN ASKING FOR DIRECTION BASED ON GENERAL POLICY STATEMENTS. EXISTING ORDINANCE ALREADY [00:10:06] PROTECTS FROM GAYER, NUISANCE CONDITIONS. THE DRAFT TEXT AND LANGUAGE IS CLARIFICATION I PREPARED. IT WOULD EXPRESSLY STATE HOW THESE PROTECTIONS APPLY TO BRIGHTNESS, SHIELDING, GLARING,ER AND DIRECT VISIBILITY AS RELEVANT CONSIDERATIONS. THE BENEFIT IS NOT A NEW RESIDENTIAL STANDARD. THE BENEFIT IS CLEARER CONNECTION BETWEEN THE EXISTING NUISANCE PROVISIONS AND SIGN ILLUMINATION. THAT CONNECTION WOULD HELP STAFF PROVIDE THING APPLICABLE STANDARD MORE QUICKLY AND PROVIDE APPLICANTS WITH CLEAR EXPECTATIONS NEAR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THE ALLOWANCE STANDARD AND PERFORMANCE STANDARD SHOWN IN GREEN ARE ALSO DRAFT LANGUAGE I PREPARED FOR THE COMMISSION DISCUSSION. THE ALLOWANCE STANDARD WITH ILLUMINATION CAN BE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE. IT WOULD REQUIRE CONCEALED LIGHT SOURCE AND DURABLE OPAQUE SIGN CONSTRUCTION WITH ILLUMINATED COPY RATHER THAN CABINET FACE. IT SHOWS HOW THE SIGN WOULD OPERATE AFTER INSTALLATION INCLUDING THE PROPOSED BRIGHTNESS LIMIT. THE BENEFIT IS THE APPEARANCE AND OPERATION ARE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY. A SIGN COULD MEET THE STANDARD BUT STILL FAIL THE BRIGHTNESS STANDARD OR MEET THE BRIGHTNESS STANDARD BUT USE AN UNACCEPTABLE CABINET DESIGN. TOGETHER THE DRAFT LANGUAGE ILLUSTRATES A COMPLETE ADMINISTRATIVE FRAMEWORK HOW IT MUST BE CONSTRUCTED, HOW BRIGHTLY IT MAY OPERATE, AND HOW A DEVIATION WILL PROVIDE LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL. THIS RENDERING ILLUSTRATES THE TYPE OF OUTCOME THEY ARE INTENDED TO SUPPORT. THE LIGHT SOURCE IS CONCEALED. THE COPY IS LIMITED AND THE SIGN REMAINS VISIBLY SUBORDINATE TO THE DEVELOPMENT. THE BORN OF THE DRAFT LANGUAGE IS IT WOULD NOT DEPEND ON THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN. IT WOULD ESTABLISH STANDARDS THAT COULD BE APPLIED CONSISTENTLY ACROSS DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLES. THANK YOU AND I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, HOW WOULD STAFF GO ABOUT MEASURING THE NIT. IF THEY WANTED TO RIGHT NOW, HOW WOULD THEY EXECUTE THAT? >> WE WOULD HAVE A TOOL. >> OKAY. SO ONCE THEY MEASURE IT IF IT'S NOT WITHIN THIS -- I GUESS IF WE'RE PUTTING THIS NEW STANDARD IN PLACE, HOW DOES IT EFFECT EXISTING. >> I WOULD SAY SIGNS IN PLACE ALREADY ARE EXEMPT FROM THE ONES WE ARE SETTING IN PLACE, BUT IT WOULD JUST SET THE STANDARD IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> IT DOES. THANK YOU. >> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FROM [ CONSENT AGENDA] THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS CONSIDER THE MINUTES FOR PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING DATED JUNE 16, 2026. AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY REQUEST BEING A 48.587-ACRE PORTION OF THE ABSTRACT 1300 GENERALLY LOCATED IN WEST ASHFORD PP042026055. DO WAVE MOTION? >> SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? >> ON THE PLAN IT'S SHOWING THREE LOTS BUT IN OUR AGENDA PACKET WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT TWO? IT'S HARD TO READ T IT'S VERY SMALL BUT IT'S IN THE CORNER OF THE PLAQUE. >> THIS IS A PRELIMINARY AND GOODNESS. I SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A RIGHT THERE FOR THE SIGN THEY [00:15:02] CREATED A HOA LOT AT THE INTERSECTION FOR THE SIGN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. >> AND I HAVE A QUESTION. LOOKING AT IT, WE HAVE CAVED IN TO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD PRESSURE FROM THE NEIGHBOURING AREA THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT A CONNECTION TO THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD, CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> OKAY I'M JUST REGISTERING MY KIND OF DISSATISFACTIONS WITH THAT, BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AT THIS TIME. >> BOTH THE. >> OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND W A MOTION ON THE SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 5-0. [007 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance the City of Midlothian Comprehensive Plan pursuant to Chapter 213 of the Texas Local Government Code to incorporate the Downtown Character Area Map and Downtown Design Guidelines. (CP01-2026-048) ] THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING 007. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE. THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 213 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INCORPORATE THE DOWNTOWN CHARACTER AREA MAP AND DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINE CP012026048. >> MADAM CHAIR, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO OUR CONSULTANTS FROM NET GOALS. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. SO I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT TO YOU THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE PLAN, AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKER FROM OUR DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WILL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN, AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER IN I QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. MY NAME IS DANIEL HARRIS. WE HAVE ERICA WITH US. THE THERE IS JUST A COUPLE OF PHOTOS FROM THE PROJECT TEAM MEMBERS THAT THE CITIZENS SAW THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF ENGAGEMENT TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND TO CONSIDER THE DOWNTOWN HIGHLIGHT. THE PROJECT PURPOSE IS TO IDENTIFY KEY TRANSITIONAL ISSUES IN DOWNTOWN AND THEN ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT SOLUTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AS WELL. REALLY A THREE-PHASE PROJECT. THROUGH DECEMBER AND JANUARY WE DID STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT TO KICK OFF THE PROCESS. PHASE 2 WAS REALLY DESIGNING THE DRAFT STANDARDS. WE HAD MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY AND MAY. AND THEN WE'RE IN THE REFINEMENT AND FINALIZATION PROCESS RIGHT NOW PRESENTING TO YOU AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. SO ENGAGEMENT RE CAN A. SO WE HAD A DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE WORKED WITH THEM AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEETINGS. THEY WERE ALSO AT THE WORK SHOPS AS WELL. WE HAD PUBLIC WORK SHOPS WHERE EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO COME OUT AND TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAD AND TO GIVE INITIAL INPUT FOR DOWNTOWN. WE HAD ONLINE ENGAGEMENT AS WELL PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING AS WELL. SOME OF THE KEY THEMES WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS TO PRESERVE DOWNTOWN'S HISTORIC DOWNTOWN IDENTITY. THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITIZENS THAT CAME OUT AND WERE SPEAKING. WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE CONTACT SENSITIVE MANAGEMENT DOWNTOWN. TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND PRESERVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ENCROACHING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOURHOOD SO THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOURHOOD PRESERVATION WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS. ALSO TO IMPROVE SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY TO ENSURE CONNECTIVITY TO DOWNTOWN AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE WALKING DOWNTOWN TO EITHER ATTEND A MEETING HERE OR SHOP ORGAN DINING. HAVING WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO WALK. HAVING CONCERNS ABOUT COMMERCIAL PARKING. THAT WAS ANOTHER THING PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT AND TO BE ADDRESSED. LOOKING AT THE DOWNTOWN MAP HERE WE HAVE THIS MAP AND SICK CHARACTER AREAS, AND I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THESE VERY QUICKLY. SO LOOKING AT WHERE THIS IS IN BLUE, IT REALLY ENCOMPASSES INSTITUTIONAL USES SUCH AS CITY HALL BUT ALSO OTHER CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, SOME PARK FACILITY AS [00:20:01] WELL. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT LIGHT BLUE IT'S REALLY CIVIC USES. THEN WE MOVE INTO THE HISTORIC CORE WHICH IS THE ACTIVITY CENTRE FOR DOWNTOWN INCLUDES A VARIETY OF USES SUCH AS RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, AND DIFFERENT OFFICES BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S CONTAINED TO A FEW BLOCKS OR SEVERAL BLOCKS THERE. THEN WE MOVE INTO THE DOWNTOWN TRANSITION WHICH IS AT THAT SORT OF REDDISH SALMON COLOUR. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY TO CONSIST OF RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL. IT SERVES AS A GRADUAL TRANSITION INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. A LOT OF FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF PEOPLE DRIVING IN FROM DOWNTOWN FROM 67. WE ALSO HAVE THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GROWTH. THAT'S THE AREA TO THE FAR EAST IN THAT PURPLE COLOUR. AND THAT AREA IS SUPPORTING A LOT OF THE NEW GROWTH FOR DOWNTOWN SUCH AS CONNORS ROAD. SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AS DEVELOPMENT WAS HAPPENING DOWNTOWN, WHERE WAS THE BEST PLACES FOR THAT NEWER TYPE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT DOWNTOWN GROWTH AREA WAS SEEN AS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THAT GROWTH. A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL DISTRICT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ORANGE GOING ALONG MAIN STREET AND DOWN SOUTH ON 5TH STREET. IT'S THE OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SUPPORTS LOW INTENSITY PROFESSIONAL OFFICES. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROMOTIONAL OFFICES IT'S A LAWYERS OFFICE, CPA OFFICE, AND JUST REALLY THAT PROFESSIONAL TYPE OF OFFICE. AND IT'S ELIMINATING NONPROFESSIONAL USES TO THOSE USES THAT ARE GOING TO SHUT DOWN MAYBE 5 OR 6. AND THEN OF COURSE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING WHERE THAT SHOULD REALLY BE ON THE MAP AND HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THE WAY WE DRAFTED THAT IT'S REALLY ALONG MAIN STREET AND 5TH STREET AND BASICALLY THAT LOT THAT ADJOINS THE FRONTAGE SO JOINS THAT ONE LOT ALONG THOSE TWO STREETS AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT ON 6TH STREET AS YOU SEE THAT GOES NORTH BEHIND THE HISTORIC CORE AREA. SO THAT WAS A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD IN THAT AREA DEFINING IT CORRECTLY. WE HAVE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL WHICH YOU WILL SEE AS THE LIGHT YELLOW. GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO HAD SOME BOUNDARY CHANGES, BUT ONCE AGAIN RESPONDING TO THE COMMENTS ABOUT PROTECTING THE DOWNTOWN CHARACTER AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, AND THIS IS WHAT THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL REALLY STRIVES TO PROTECT IS THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL OR NOT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. CURRENT EXISTING BUSINESSES. THOSE WOULD BE PLANNING TO STAY. THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN. BUT REALLY PROTECTING THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE HOME. SO WE HAVE A CHART HERE. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAIL OF THE CHART BUT IT BASICALLY LET'S YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THE KEY DIFFERENCES IN THE SIX ERIC AREAS. WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE COMMERCIAL LAND USES OR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE YOU COULD AT THAT ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW PARKING WOULD BE ADDRESSED ON THE STREET OR ON THE SITE. THE BUILDING FORM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. LANDSCAPING AND ALSO SCREENING OF SITE FEATURES. HOW DO WE SCREEN A PARKING LOT WHEN IT IS TRANSITIONING INTO ONE OF THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL AREAS MAKING SURE THAT PARKING LOT SCREEN AND TALKING ABOUT OUTDOOR LIGHTING AS WELL. SO DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WE ADDRESS IN ALL THOSE SIX AREAS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE GROUP. AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT STREET TYPES. SO FOUR DESIGNATED STREET TYPES. WE HAVE MAIN STREET, CENTRAL CORE STREET. NORTH 8 STREET AND PUBLIC STREET. THERE IS A MAP SORT OF DEFINING THOSE. AND THEN WE HAVE A SIMILAR MATRIX WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WIDE ARE THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THESE DIFFERENT AREAS. HOW HEAVILY TRAVELLED WILL THEY BE? WHAT TYPE OF AMENITIES DO WE HAVE? WE TALK ABOUT ON STREET MARKING. HOW IS THAT DONE ALONG THE STREET? BECAUSE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DID NOT WANT PARKING ALONG THE STREET. AND WE LOOK AT LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING AND KNOWS AREAS. THAT'S REALLY A QUICK SUMMARY AND THEN LIKE I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO BRING STEPHEN UP HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE IN WHAT WE DID. AND REALLY AFTER THEY PRESENT TO YOU, THE QUESTION OF WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECOMMEND THIS TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION, AND THE WAY THEY IMPLEMENT GUIDELINES THIS WOULD BE AMENDED INTO POLICY GUIDANCE FOR ZONING [00:25:02] KAYS TO COME FORWARD AND THE UPDATED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING WORKED ON. SO WITH THAT, BOBBY OR STEVEN. DO ONE OF YOU WANT TO COME FIRST? >> I LIVE AT 5056 AVENUE HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. I HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY INVESTING IN MIDLOTHIAN SINCE 1997 WHEN I BOUGHT THE RED HOUSE BEHIND THE SONIC ON 1890. MY PASSION IS ABSOLUTELY HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE. I STUDIED ARCHITECTURE. I HAD MY UNDERGRAD AND MASTERS IN ARCHITECTURE. I HAVE BEEN HONOURED TO BE A PART OF THIS. THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB. THEY REALLY LISTENED TO US. WE BROKE OFF IN TEAMS. WE HAD POST ITS AND ALL DIFFERENT INTERACTION, AND THE GROUP WAS DIVIDED BUT EVERYONE LOVED MIDLOTHIAN AND WERE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CITY. I THINK THEY DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB WITH WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT MIDLOTHIAN AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE. AS WE KNOW CITIES GROW AND EVOLVE, BUT I THINK TESTIFY REALLY, REALLY SMART FOR US TO INVEST AND HAVE A GUIDELINE TO SHOW HOW WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND HOW WE ENVISION THAT GROWTH HAPPENING OVER TIME. AND I THINK THEY HAVE MADE SOME VERY LOGICAL CHOICES IN WHERE OUR CITY PARK IS. HOW IS THAT GOING TO LOOK IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS? HOW IS THAT GOING TO EVOLVE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM ME. BUT IT'S JUST A GREAT EXPERIENCE. I THINK THEY REALLY LISTENED TO OUR CONCERNS. >> WE ARE SEEING ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN A LOWES, A WALMART, A PLAZA, BASICALLY THIS ANCHOR ON THE WEST SIDE. ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN WE ARE ABOUT TO INVEST 18 MILLION IN HERITAGE PLAZA. WE HAVE AND YOU INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY WITH YOUR FOUNDERS GROWTH. IT'S A COMMENDABLE PROJECT. YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT NO OTHER CITY A DONE. AND BASICALLY YOU HAVE TWO WONDERFUL ANCHORS THAT WOULD LAND MIDLOTHIAN GROWTH TO BE A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. AND WHAT I'M SEEING FROM THIS PLAN IS WE'RE FREEZING US INTO 2026. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, CAN WE GO BACK TO THIS PLAN, THE PICTURE OF THE WAY WE HAVE DONE THESE ZONES IS ? IS WE'RE FREEZING AND I REMEMBER THE HOUSE YOU BOUGHT. AND I REMEMBER THE HOUSES NEXT TO IT. THEY WERE RUN DOWN. THERE WAS CHAIN LINK FENCES WITH PITBULLS AND BARKING DOGS AND CARS ON BLOCKS. I MEAN IT LOOKED HORRIBLE. AND YOU AND OTHERS INVESTED AND IMPROVED THIS AREA AND MADE IT WHAT IT IS TODAY. AND IT WAS A THOROUGHFARE. 287 WITH A THE MAIN ROAD FROM THE BASIN TO THE SOUTH. AND WHAT I SEE HERE IS WE'RE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE FREEZE THESE AREAS AS RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE LIMITING BUSINESS GROWTH IT YOUR NEIGHBOURHOOD. NO OFFENCE TO YOU. I HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE LIVING NEXT TO A LOWES THAT SAY I WANT TO PUT A LITTLE RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE. I WANT A COFFEE SHOP WITH HIGH TRAFFIC AND INSTEAD THEY WILL BE LIMITED TO BEING RESIDENTIAL. >> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS QUITE POSSIBLE. THIS IS A SMALL FOCUS ON THE HISTORIC PART OF TOWN BUT I THINK ALL OF THAT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE EVEN IF I WANTED TO PUT A RED OR A PURPLE DOT IN THE MIDDLE OF YELLOW, I COULD BRING THAT TO YOU AND COULD ARGUE MY CASE AS TO WHY THAT MADE SENSE AND WHY I'M GOING TO TAKE A MATTRESS FACTORY. I CAN BRING THAT CASE BY CASE. SO THIS IS A GUIDELINE. THIS IS NOT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE IN THAT. AL AND I THINK IF I BROUGHT A REALLY STRONG ARGUMENT AND SAID HEY, LOOK. I BOUGHT THE OLD MATTRESS FACTORY, I WILL MAKE THIS AMAZING, AND I NEED TO FOG THIS COLOUR FROM YELLOW TO LIGHT PURPLE. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING AMAZING THAT OH, MY GOSH. AL I WANT THAT. I THINK THEY TOOK ALL OF THE CONCERNS AND MADE IT A ROAD MAP. BUT IT'S NOT, LIKE, CARVED IN STONE. WOULD CAN STILL CHANGE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL CHANGE AND WHAT WILL MAKE US CHANGE SOME OF THESE AREAS. THE IF A LOT OF THESE HOUSES MOVE OUT IN THREE YEARS WE MAY HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAT PROFESSIONAL OFFICE GOES TWO STREETS OR THE STREET GOING TO WALMART MAY BECOME MORE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. SO IT'S JUST A NARROW FOCUS FOR THIS MOMENT IN TIME. BUT IT IS, IT WILL CHANGE OVER TIME. >> AND SORT OF THE WAY THAT WE ENDED THE MAP HERE BECAUSE [00:30:01] THEY'RE ALL GOOD POINTS ABOUT WORKING DOWNTOWN. ONE OF THE WAYS WE ENDED WITH THE OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE THE WAY IT DOES IS IT WAS LISTENING A LOT TO THE CITIZEN FEEDBACK AND WANTING TON RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS AND THE DESIRES EXPRESSED BY THE PUBLIC AT THOSE MEETINGS. SO YES, IT REALLY IS TAILORED TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RIGHT ALONG MAIN STREET, BUT THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE. BUT HOW WE ENDED THE MAP LOOKING LIKE THIS, TESTIFY REALLY RESPONDING TO THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD. SO I THINK AS STEPHEN IS MENTIONING, YES. THERE IS CASES WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND PRESENT A GOOD IDEA AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT TO COME TO YOU FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND THE COUNCIL COULD HEAR IT AS WELL. REALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS A REFLECTION OF THE DESIRE THAT PEOPLE EXPRESSED ABOUT THESE THINGS. IN DOWNTOWN AS WELL. LOOKING FURTHER TO THE EAST THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE SHOULD THE NEW GROWTH BE RIGHT NOW AND HAVING IT MORE ON THE EAST SIDE WAS DEEMED TO BE A DESIRABLE PLACE FOR GROWTH RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S JUST SORT OF THE HISTORY OF HOW WE ENDED UP THAT WAY. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER SIGNED UP. I THINK YOU SAID BOBBY WAS GOING TO BE SPEAKING. ITHANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. THE I LIVE AT 217 SOUTH 5TH STREET. AND I, WE HAVE BEEN HERE 21 YEARS. AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THE FOCUS GROUP FOR THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY. I THINK THE MEMBERSHIP WAS EQUALLY DISPERSED AMONG RESIDENTS IN THE ORIGINAL TOWN AND CITIZENS AT LARGE. AND SO WE HAD A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF ALL OF THE CITY. IN THAT MEETING LIKE STEVEN STATED, THERE WAS A LOT OF INPUT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE. MY INITIAL INVOLVEMENT IN THIS GOES BACK TO THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE LEFT OF US WAS REZONED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THAT NOT KNOWING WHAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT. AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE IN MY PARTICULAR CASE A VERY GOOD DEAL BECAUSE IT IS A THEY'RE NEVER THERE AT NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS AND QUIET AS A CEMETERY. SO THAT CASE WHERE IT'S A PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS LIKE THE ORANGE AREA THAT WE LIVE IN CALLED OLD TOWN IS NOT INTRUCE TOFFOLI ME IN A PARTICULAR CASE. ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT JUST CAME UP LAST WEEK. I SAW THIS COMMISSION APPROVED REZONING OF 316 SOUTH 5TH STREET WHICH IS JUST SO THE SOUTH OF ME. AND IN THAT CASE IT WAS A RENTAL PROPERTY THAT WAS KIND OF RUN DOWN AND HAD UNDESIRABLE RESIDENTS OR JUST VACANT AND FALLING APART. AND FROM THE LOOKS OF WHAT WAS APPROVED, IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. TESTIFY ALSO ON THE MAIN CITY. THE RESIDENTS EXPRESSED CONCERN AROUND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OFF OF THE MAIN ROADS, AND I THINK THAT WAS A STRONG POINT ON KEEPING THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE REZONING TO PROPERTY THAT BORDERS ON MAIN STREET OR 5TH IN THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES WHEN IT START ENCROACH ON THE NEIGHBOURHOODS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED FOR YEARS AND GENERATIONS. THAT IS A CONCERN IF IT'S A COFFEE SHOP OR ANY BUSINESS THAT IS OPERATING UNTIL 10 ON A SATURDAY NIGHT OUTSIDE 25 AND MUSIC AND NOISE. THAT THE BIG CONCERN THAT I THINK THE RESIDENT HAD. BEING A RESIDENT MYSELF I THINK I TRIED TO KEEP MY FOCUS ON WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CITY AT LARGE AND ALL OF THE NEIGHBOURHOODS AND BUSINESS OWNERS. I'M WITH STEVEN WHERE I AM VERY INTERESTED IN KEEPING THE [00:35:07] HISTORICAL BUILDING LOOK HISTORICAL AND THE UNIQUE FEATURE THAT WE HAVE ALSO ON THE PARKS AND REC BOARD. I AM INVOLVED IN THE HERITAGE PLAZA PROJECT. >> I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU BUT WE DO NEED TO WRAP UP. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> BUT WE WISH IS THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS TO RESPECT THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTS WISHES TO KEEP THEIR PROPERTY RESIDENTIAL. >> THANK YOU. AND I HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER AS A MAYBE. GARY, ARE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK? AND PLEASE TRY TO KEEP IT AROUND THAT FIVE MINUTE MARK. >> THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I GOT ON THIS A LITTLE LATE. I LIVE AT 316 WEST AVENUE C. I HAVE BEEN IN MIDLOTHIAN SINCE LATE 70S NOT AT THIS ADDRESS. I WAS ON 5TH STREET ACTUALLY. KNOW EXACTLY WHERE BOBBY IS. I LIVED IN STRAIGHTEN, FLORIDA. WE MOVED APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE THEY BUILT THE NEW SCHOOL IN FRONT OF IT. VERY GLAD WE MOVED. I LIVE ON 6TH AND C RIGHT NOW. WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THE STUFF THEY MADE IS VERY NICE. THE COMMENT THE GENTLEMAN MADE AS FAR AS STUFF ON BLOCKS AND CHAIN LINK FENCES. WE STILL GOT THAT. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY TAKING CARE OF THEIR PART OF IT WITH CODE RESTRICTIONS AND MAKING HAPPEN. THE GENTLEMAN CONSULTED HERE HAS HIS HOUSE IN ONE OF THE FRONT PAGES OF HIS PRESENTATION. AL I WANT TO RETAIN MY HOUSE AS A RESIDENTIAL PLACE WITHOUT ALL THE TRAFFIC, WITHOUT ALL THE PASS THROUGH TRAFFIC. I WORK VERY HARD AT IT. I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTAIN THE HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL PORTION. UNDERSTAND THE QUARTERS. DO I. THE WE'RE GONNA GROW. I GET IT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES TO GROW WITHOUT TAKING IN ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL STUFF THAT WE GOT GOING ON HERE. LIKE I SAID THE PARKING IS HORRENDOUS. I KNOW YOU HAVE PLANS TO MAKE BETTER. I LOVE GOING INTO TOWN FOR DINNER AND STUFF. I HOPE YOU GUYS STRONGLY DO CONSIDER THE RESIDENCIES THAT ARE THERE THAT PLAN TO BE THERE. I MOVED HERE AND THIS IS THE LAST HOUSE. I'M SORRY BUT I'M NOT MOVING AGAIN. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET INUNDATED WITH COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. I GOT ISSUES NOW WITH ONE SEMICORNER AND EVERYTHING ELSE WHICH I HAVE FULL FAITH IN EVERYTHING GOING ON. I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY OPINION KNOWN THAT WE HAVE PROTECTION THAT WE'RE NOT INUNDATED WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT DON'T LET INVESTORS AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE BUYING UP ALL THE STUFF WHEN MIDLOTHIAN IS DONE THE YOU GAVE YOUR ADDRESS. YOU'RE NEARLY IN OVILLA. I AM LIVING IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS STUFF. SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHEN IT'S SOMETHING YOU DEAL WITH EVERY DAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> MIND IF I JUST ADDRESS COMMISSIONAL ALTMAN'S CONCERNS. IF YOU NOTE, YOU SEE THE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MAP THAT'S HERE THAT SAYS A CONFERENCE OR PLAN SHALL NOT CONSTITUTE ZONING REGULATIONS OR ESTABLISH ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES. THAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO BE ON EVERY FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND THIS IS REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN THAT IT WILL BE. SO TO STEVEN'S POINT AND DANIEL'S, THESE ARE MERE GUIDELINES. MENT SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN, WE CAN'T REALLY TELL SOMEBODY WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY. SO WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY, WE TAKE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. THESE ARE MERELY GUIDELINES FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO PROTECT THE RESIDENT, PROTECT THE BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT ONCE AGAIN POZ WILL CHANGE, COUNCIL WILL CHANGE, AND THOSE INTERPRETATIONS WILL COME IN MOVING FORWARD. >> YEAH. AND I HAVE DONE THIS MOVING FORWARD AND KNOW THEY'RE ONLY GUIDELINES. BUT I ALSO KNOW THEY'RE GUIDELINES I TAKE SERIOUSLY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TAKE SERIOUSLY. AND WHEN I DO THAT, I GET WHY PEOPLE WANT TO PROTECT THEIR [00:40:08] RIGHT NOWS. I THINK THERE IS AN UNDULY RESTRICTIVE INSISTENCE ON RESIDENTIAL. THIS GOES BACK TO I KNOW THE SCOOPS ICE CREAM FIGHT. WE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS. THE IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO FREEZE DEVELOPMENT ALONG MAIN STREET. THERE WAS A COMMITMENT TO MAKE THAT ZONING WHEN WE DON'T GO BEHIND IT. AND IN THE SCOOPS ICE CREAM CASE THEY PROVED THEY WOULD STOP IT. THEY HAD AN OUTCRY. WE'LL GET THESE AND I'LL CALL IT DOT IN MY BACK YARD WHERE THE PLAT WE JUST HAD, YOU AND I KNOW WHEN YOU BUILD A DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC ROADS ARE PAID FOR BY THE PUBLIC. THEY SHOULD BE A THROUGH FARE, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD GET TO USE IT. THE FACT THE NEIGHBOURS SAID I DON'T LIKE THESE PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD CLOSED BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAT WITH A PUBLIC STREET. THESE PEOPLE DON'T GET TO ASK US TO FUND A PUBLIC PARK FOR THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD WITH MY TACK MONEY, AND LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, AND I DON'T GET TO PAY FOR THEIR 6-FOOT SIDEWALKS THEY WANT, AND I HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR PARKS. I WANT TO SEE AN INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO STRIKE THE LINE. I THINK THEY SHOULD CONTINUE. HOWEVER, NEW COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS ARE NOT APPROPRIATE. WHEN YOU BUILD PARKS AND BUILD CITY SERVICES. WHEN YOU BUILD A PLACE LIKE FOUNDERS ROW. THAT IS NOT SPECULATIVE. THAT IS A SENSIBLE PLAN. IF YOU COME HERE AND SAY THIS IS JUST A GUIDELINE AND TRY TO STAY IN THAT SAME DOCUMENT THAT IT NOT APPROPRIATE. I LOOK AT THE ENTIRE APP, TO SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY ON THE AVENUE. AND WE'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL? THERE'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL USES AND THEY SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE TAX MONEY IS GOING TO FUND THAT ROAD. I THINK THIS IS A CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE RIGHT NOWS, AND I UNDERSTAND HIS FEELINGS. I HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS. I LIVED ON A PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS AIG LAND FOR 200 YEARS, AND THE CITY PUT 14TH STREET THROUGH IT. I GET IT. THE CITY GROWS. THE YOU HAVE A GIANT PARK NEXT TO ME AND I HAVE TO HEAR FOOTBALL GAMES AT 8 IN THE MORNING. THAT'S PART OF LIVING IN THE CITY IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. IF YOU LIVE IN OLD TOWN, YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE LIVING IN A DENSE, VIBRANT AREA WHERE THERE'S BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANT, AND YOUR PROPERTY IS GOING TO GO UP FOR THAT, AND YOU WILL GAIN VALUE. THESE ARE GUIDELINE. WE NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT WE ARE EMBRACING GROWTH. AND THIS IS A BACKWARDS LOOKING DOCUMENT NOT MOVING FORWARDS. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK SOMEWE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN I'M SORRY? I'M GONNA LOOK TO, NO,IC NO. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THIS IS NOT MY NORMAL POSITION. I'M USUALLY OVER THERE. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING DO. >>> WE HAVE A SECOND? VOTE PLEASE SOMEAND THAT PASSES 5-0. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. STAFF, CAN YOU COME BACK UP FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS PLEASE? SORRY. COMMISSION WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT FIRST. >> WE STARTED WITH A BIGGER TRANSITION AREA SO THAT ORANGE WAS BIGGER PREVIOUSLY. AND THROUGH THE WORK SHOPS WE HAD WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC THERE WAS A STRONG DESIRE TO REALLY REDUCE THE LOT FRONTING ON MAIN STREET, 5TH STREET, AND 6TH STREET TYPICALLY WHERE [00:45:02] WE HAVE THOSE SO THAT WAS WHY TESTIFY REDUCED TO THE COMMENTS WE HAD DURING THE PROCESS. >> THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT REALLY STREAK ME ABOUT THIS. THE CORN FROM CITY HALL, THAT'S NOT EVEN TRANSITIONAL. THAT'S, LIKE, RESIDENTIAL FROM CITY HALL. THAT SEEMS STRAINT TO ME. BUT ALSO BACK TO AVENUE F, WE ALREADY HAVE BUSINESSES IN THERE. WHY WERE THEY NOT INCLUDED? IF YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES WHY WERE THEY NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUSINESS? >> ARE YOU TALKING WEST OF 6TH STREET? >> YEAH. YOU GOT BOTH SIDES AVENUE OF 5TH STREET BUSINESSES. >> WHAT WE DID WITH SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAY WERE THOSE USES THAT WERE COMMERCIAL IN THE OTR ARE AND WE COULD WORK ON THAT WORDING IF WE WANTED TO SAY SHOULD CONTINUE OR EXPECTED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE WE WEREN'T REALLY TRYING TO CREATE NONCONFORMING USES IN THOSE SITUATIONS BUT REALLY THOSE USES TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN SHOWING THE VISION WAS THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL AREA IS REALLY ONE SOLID SORT OF UNIFIED PIECE. >> BUT EVERY TIME THEY PRESENT A CASE THOUGH THEY SAY THIS DOES OR DOES NOT METE THE PLAN. EVEN THOUGH WE COULD OVERRIDE IT, THAT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION. >> CORRECT. AND TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL BASICALLY WEST ON 6TH STREET WAS REALLY THE DESIRE THAT WE WERE RESPONDING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NAMING OF THIS DESIGN GUIDELINE AND HOW IT DIFFERS FROM WHAT WAS DONE JUST SICK YEARS AGO IN THE 2020 COMMITTEE AND PLAN. WHY THE NAME CHANGES? >> ONE OF THE THING WE WERE TAKING A LOOK AT WAS HOW CAN WE BEST REFLECT AND BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WITH THESE DISTRICTS? SO WHETHER TESTIFY THE CORE DISTRICT THAT HAVE VERY, VERY SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, HERE THE CORE, AND THESE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION, NOISE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THE SHOWING IT AND NAME OFFING IT PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO STRONGLY COMMUNICATE IS THAT THIS WAS FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, REAL ESTATE, DENTIST, MEDICAL, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY COMBATABLE WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. >> AND SO WITH THAT, YOU HAVE, YOU WENT AS FAR AS HOURS OF OPERATION AND SPECIFICALLY SAID TRADITIONAL BUSINESS HOURS MEAN 7 TO 6 IN THAT OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SPACE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF HAIR SALONS OPEN PAST 6, ATTORNEY'S OFFICES OPEN PAST 6. SO YOU HAVE GIVEN US THIS GUIDELINE, BUT HOW DOES ENFORCEMENT HAPPEN WITHIN THAT? >> WON AGAIN IT'S A GUIDELINE. WE'RE NOT ESTABLISHING HOURS. WE'RE SAYING IF YOU WANT TO OPEN A DISCOTECH, PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE. SO LET'S TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THE TO YOUR POINT IF THERE'S A LAWYER'S OFFICE, THEY MAY STAY OPEN TO 7 OR 8. THEY MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC AT THAT POINT. IT'S NOT A COME OR GO OPERATION SO THOSE THINGS. SO THESE ARE MERE GUIDELINES. 7 TO 6, 7 TO 7, 7 TO 8 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THESE OPERATIONS DON'T PROVIDE A LOT OF STREET TRAFFIC. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING. THAT LIMIT THE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBOURHOOD. AS WELL YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICE OPEN PAST 7 OR 8. THOSE ARE GUIDELINES. THERE WON'T BE AN ENFORCEMENT THING HERE WITH THIS. WHEN WE COME THROUGH AND SAY THESE ARE OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, 200 FEET OFF MAIN STREET. BUT THEY WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO CONSIDER IT. ARE Y'ALL GOING TO CONSIDER IT BASED ON THESE GUIDELINES? OR ARE YOU GOING TO PUT CERTAIN PARAMETERS ON THIS BUSINESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO ENFORCEMENT, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YES TO A POINT BUT YOU HELPED ME OUT WITH ANOTHER QUESTION. HOW MANY ACTIVE KAYS WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS CHANGE? >> TO HIS POINT WE HAD ONE AND I THINK WE JUST HAD ONE ACTIVE CASE. CAME THROUGH COUNCIL AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL. IT'S ONLY ONE SO IT'S NOT DONE BUT AS FAR AS WE KNOW WE HAVE NONE IN THE QUEUE. >> OKAY. ANY MEETINGS FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO REDO THAT PART OF IT? >> I CAN'T RECALL ANYBODY. [00:50:09] I DON'T RECALL ANY IN THIS AREA. >> SO THE CASE ON 5TH STREET IS ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH OTPO BASED ON THE HOURS AND LAND USE THAT THEY'RE DOING. WE DID HAVE ONE DRC IN THE DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONE. BUT IT'S ALSO A USE THAT IT WOULD HAVE LOOK AT FOR COMPATIBILITY BECAUSE OF THE 8TH STREET ZONING THAT'S ALREADY THERE. >> AND YOU MENTION ZONING. >> DO YOU HAVE THE OVERLAY FOR EXISTING ZONING AS IT STANDS TODAY AND WHERE THIS LOOKS LIKE AND ARE WE ALREADY CREATING CONFLICT? >> YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT SLIDE, BUT. >> THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S CONFLICT. I MEAN JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE ZONING FROM 1959 IN A LOT OF THESE PLACES. THERE'S INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA. I AM SURE THERE IS UVPDS IN THIS AREA AND THOUGH THINGS. THERE ARE CONFLICTING AREAS JUST LIKE WHEN YOU DO A FUTURE LAND USE MAP. WHEN YOU TRY TO MAP GENERALLY A LARGE AREA, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO CONFLICT. BUT THAT DOES NOT NEGATE THE EXISTING USE. >> I HAD A QUESTION. PRIMA IS COMING IN AT THE CORNER OF 6TH AND AVENUE F. AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A BAR, RIGHT? AND THEIR CLOSING TIME IS 10 OR LATER? DO WE HAVE A RESTRICTION ON THEIR CLOSING TIME? >> NO WE DO NOT. >> OKAY. IF SOMEONE WANT TO PUT A BAR AT KIDDY CORN FROM THERE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT? >> IT'S NOT BANNED. THISES NOT DRACONIAN. THIS IS A GENERAL GUIDELINE. SO IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE GUIDELINES. >> CORRECT. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. CALLS FOR THAT TYPE OF USE. >> AND THERE'S NO TRANSITION SOME. IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE NOT ENVISIONING THAT IF THEY DO WELL AND THERE'S PEOPLE AT THE LINE THEN A COMPETITOR CAN'T MOVE IN THERE AND OPEN A RESTAURANT CATTY CORNER. UNDER THIS GUIDELINE WE WOULD PRESERVE IT INSTEAD. WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT, STAFF, BUT THERE ARE COUNTLESS TIMES YOU DON'T TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION. SO IT WOULD BE THAT. >> IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF I HAVE A FEW THINGS THAT I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD WITH. MENT I HAD THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH THE 2019, 2020 DOWNTOWN PLAN, AND WE WORKED THERE FOR MONTHS AND MONTH AND MONTHS TO COME UP WITH THAT 100 PLUS PAGE PLAN. THE I HAVE THAT REFERENCE WHERE IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND ON THE WEBSITE CURRENTLY. WHEN THAT ORDER UNANIMOUS WAS SIGNED INTO THE COMMUNITY BACK ON THE DATE IS NOT ON HERE BUT IT WAS IN 2020, IT SPECIFICALLY SAID THE DOWNTOWN PLAN ADOPTED SHALL BE USED AS A DOWNTOWN BASE FOR DECISION MAKING RELEVANT TO REDEVELOPMENT INCLUDING THE PASSAGE OF ORDER UNANIMOUSES AND RESOLUTION AND THE ADMINISTRATION THEY'RE AT. IT CONTINUES TO SAY THE DOWNTOWN PLAN SHALL BE FOLLOWED TO THE GREATEST EXTENT PRACTICAL UNDER THE THEN EXISTING CIRCUMSTANCES IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH ORDERLY GROWTH AND REDEVELOPMENT. MY CONCERN IS COMMISSIONER ALTMAN HAS ALSO EXPRESSED IS THAT WE TOOK AWAY AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TRANSITION SPACE. WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL PARCELS ON HERE THAT ARE NOT CORRECTLY COLOUR CODED FOR HOW THEY ARE USED TODAY. WE HAVE A PARKING LOT ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE CSI WHICH WE KNOW TO BE A BUSINESS SHOWING AS RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE A WHAT WE KNOW IS A CHURCH SHOWING AS RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE BREACH COUNCIL SHOWING AS PRIME MINISTER. WE HAVE A HUGE DISCREPANCY IN WHAT OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS FOR THE ENTIRE AREA THAT WE HAVE CONDENSED DOWN TO MUCH LESS THAN A FINGERPRINT. SO WHEN THAT SAID I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EITHER TABLE THIS OR DECLINE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. [00:55:07] I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD THAT. THE CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? >> I THINK WE COULD SEND IT BACK AND HAVE THE COMMITTEE MEET AGAIN WITH THE COMMENTS YOU MADE WHICH ECHO MINE WHICH IS WE ARE LIVING IN A MOMENT OF TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND THEY WERE VERY FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT SCOOPS WAS TRYING TO DO. AND I HEARD THAT WITH SCOOPS. MENT WE LIVE IN DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND WE LOVE IT. YOUNG PEOPLE LOVE IT. I THINK WE ARE VERY SHORTSIGHTED IN THIS. WHAT IS A FORWARD LOOKING PLAN EMBRACING THE IDEA THAT THERE'S A SIMPLE RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT THAT THEY WANT. THISES NEVER GOING TO BE A PRIVATE NEIGHBOURHOOD. THIS IS NEVER GOING TO BE A CREEK BED OR A PARK PLACE. IT'S NOT A PURE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOURHOOD. YOU CAN'T PUT DOG KENNELS. WE DO THAT FOR THOSE. BUT THIS A MIX. IT'S ALLS BEEN A MIX. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS 25 YEARS. IN THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THERE'S A MIXED USE TO HAVE BUSINESSES ALONGSIDE. CONSISTENT WORK. SCOOPS DIDN'T GO IN BUT TO ADOPT A GUIDELINE LIKE THIS THAT IS TARGET TO GET RID OF THE SCOOPS OF THE WORLD AND THEN IMPOSE THAT ON THE DISTRICT. IT'S VERY SHORT SIGHTED. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE REOPEN THE COMMITTEE, REVISIT THIS IN A WAY THAT MANAGES THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND THE NEED TO KEEP THIS WITH TRANSITION USES RATHER THAN TRYING TO PRESERVE THE IDEAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOURHOOD THAT CAME OUT IN CONSISTENCY. >>> I ASK ONE QUESTION? WHAT HAVE THE IMPETUS TO DOING THIS RATHER THAN THE 2020 VERSION? >> THESE AREN'T MUTUAL,LY EXCLUSIVE. THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. MENT THIS DOESN'T IT'S MORE OF A MICROSCOPIC LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN AREA. A LOT OF THAT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN TOLD US THAT PUBLIC INVESTMENT WOULD BE ENCOURAGED. REINVIGORATING THE LOSS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THAT'S WHERE WE CHOSE TO INVEST OUR PUBLIC MONEY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THIS BUILDING, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. I SEE THEM AS BEING STABLE FOR A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE MASTER PLAN FOR GUIDANCE. WE'LL LOOK TO THE ZONING ORDER FOR GUIDANCE. AS FOR WHAT PLANNERS DO, THEY TAKE ON ALL THIS INFORMATION, AND THEY DIGEST IT, AND THEN YOU GET A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL DO. YOU MAKE THE SAUSAGE. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT'S WHAT COMES FROM IT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE CERTAIN SPOTS LIKE THINGS LIKE THAT. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS NOT A ZONING MAP. THIS IS A GENERAL GUIDELINE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE MAP THAT LOOKS AT 65 SQUARE MILES, THERE WILL BE USES WITHIN THERE THAT ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN. SO ANYTIME YOU ADOPT A GENERAL GUIDELINE, A COMP PLAN, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TONS OF PROPERTIES THAT FALL INTO THE CATEGORIES THEY GIVE IT. WE'RE ONLY LIMITED TO 15 LAND USES. WE COULD GO UP AND HAVE 65 FUTURE LAND USES WHICH DOESN'T REALLY DO US A LOT OF GOOD. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PICTURE FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT WAS NEVER THE PLAN TO GO THROUGH THIS AND RECREATE A ZONING MAP AND MAKE EVERYBODY A LEGAL CONFORMING PARCEL WITHIN THIS AREA. >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IS THIS ISN'T DONE BY BLOCK. SOMEBODY TOOK THE TIME TO SPECIFICALLY SET OUT INDIVIDUAL PARCELS. THIS IS A LOT MORE BLOCK SENSITIVE. NOW, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE IT IS CUT ACROSS. BUT THIS IS A VERY FORWARD [01:00:01] THINKING. IN HIS WORDS DOWN IN TWO TO THREE YEARS WE CAN COME BACK AND CHANGE IT. WELL, WE CHANGED IT SICK YEARS AGO. WE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WITH THIS CONSULTANT TO PUT TOGETHER A VERY DETAILED PLAN LAND USES OF WHAT ALL OF THESE MEANT. AND THIS FIVE-PAGE EXHIBIT A IS LACKING. SO WITH THE MOTION OF HAVING THE COMMITTEE REOPEN AND COME BACK AGAIN. I WOULD THAT. SO LET'S TAKE A VOTE. DO YOU WANT TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION? >> THE MOTION IS THAT THE COMMISSION BE TAKEN (INAUDIBLE). >> AND I SECOND THAT MOTION. [008 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending and restating the development and use regulations of Planned Development District No. 184 (PD-184) for 16.24+ acres out of the Martha Brenan Survey, Abstract No. 43. The property is generally located on the west side of S. 14th Street, and north of McAlpin Road. (Z17-2026-047)] AND THAT PASSES 5-0. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING 008. CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE OF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 184 FOR 16.24 ACRES OUT OF THE MARTHA BRUNTEN SURVEY ABSTRACT 42, PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH 14TH STREET Z172046047. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMITTEE AND MEMBERS. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AN AMENDMENT TO AMEND AND RESTATE THE DEVELOPMENT UNDER A SEA GRACE DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY LOTS BUT INCORPORATE WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE AMENDMENT. IF YOU RECALL THIS IS A 16.3-ACRE PARCEL AT THE INTERSECTION OF MCALPIN AND SOUTH 16TH STREET. AND YOU HAVE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, A MIXTURE WITH OF COURSE SOME ALL OF IT IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUT YOU HAVE LOW DENSITY AND MEDIUM DENSITY PRIME MINISTER SURROUNDING IT. THE BIGGEST CHANGES THEY ORIGINALLY HAD FOUR LOT DOWN THERE AND HAD SOME HOA OPEN SPACE AT THE CORNER AT THE LEFT HAND CORNER. AND THEY CAME BACK BEFORE YOU TO MAKE THE OPEN SPACE WIDER. GOING THROUGH ENGINEERING THEY WANTED TO GO BACK TO HAVING THE FOUR LOT. THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE THEY MADE THAT AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF LOTS FROM 38 TO 37. BUT THEY DID WANT TO KEEP THE NEW ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND DESIGN ELEMENTS THEY BROUGHT BEFORE YOU LAST TIME. SO HERE IS WHAT THEY APPROVED LAST TIME WHICH YOU APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025. AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS YOU GUYS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER OF 25. SO IT'S STILL CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE DID SEND POST CARDS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY AND DID GET ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION, AND THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH THE INCREASED DENSITY. HOWEVER, THE SINGLE LOT DIDN'T CHANGE THE DENSITY AS A WHOLE. AND THAT ON SEGMENT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET. THAT RESTATES THE GUIDELINES, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> YES. I NOTICED IN THE PACKET THE [01:05:05] GARAGE FLOOR AREA IS NO LESS THAN 354 SQUARE FEET. I THOUGHT OUR STANDARD WAS 600 FEET. >> IT IS. THE AND THAT WAS A STANDARD THEY IMPOSED THE LAST TIME TO DO THE 400-FOOT BUT THE SMALLER GARBAGES I THINK. THE FIRST TIME IT CAME THROUGH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? IF YOU'LL JUST STU STATE YOUR NE AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS TODD WINTERS AT 201 WINCOW CIRCLE IN WYLIE, TEXAS. I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO ANDREW. I WORKED WITH HIM ON PREVIOUS ENGAGEMENTS, AND YOU GUYS ARE MAKING A GOOD CALL HERE. THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE THING HERE. AS MENTIONED WHEN WE ORIGINALLY ZONED THIS IT WAS ON FOR 48 LOT. AND WORKING WITH OUR BUILDER WE ONLY CAME UP WITH 37 LOT. THAT BUILDER NOW IS ONLY TAKING HALF OF THE LOT. IT'S ACTUALLY ZONED FOR 38. BUT WE HAD AN EXHIBIT ATTACHED TO IT FROM 37. BASICALLY JUST REPLACING THAT EXHIBIT. THE IT'S THAT SIMPLE ACTUALLY, SO I WOULD BE ANTICIPATE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HAVE YOU RUN INTO ANY ISSUES? >> I AM SURE WE WILL. IN FACT WHEN WE GET TO THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THIS, WE WILL COLLECT EVERYTHING AT THE SOUTHERN END AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A WAY TO GET IT OUT. WE ACTUALLY DID THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH EAST AND TO THE SOUTH OF THIS. AND WHERE THE DRAINAGE WAS GOING AND TRY TO KEEP IT THROUGH. WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE OF THAT. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION SECOND. THE VOTE PLEASE. IS EVERYBODY ABLE? THAT PASSES 5-0. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> MOTION TO APPROVE A PRESENTED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED DO. WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDONNELL. PLEASE VOTE. [009 Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone 593.939+ acres out of the W. M. Lick Survey, Abstract No. 620, J.P. Neill Survey, Abstract No. 1387, E. Rice Survey, Abstract No. 929, A.R. Newton Survey, Abstract No. 807, P.I.C. Survey, Abstract No. 1240, Z. Heath Survey, Abstract No. 455, J. Kyser Survey, Abstract No. 597, W. Wilkins Survey, Abstract No. 1162, JR Beauchamp Survey, Abstract No. 1201, AR Newton Survey, Abstract No. 809, and I. Cooper Survey, Abstract No. 226, from Agricultural (A) District and Planned Development District No. 136 (PD-136) to Planned Development District No. 136 (PD-136), and Amending and Restating in their entirety the Development Regulations of PD-136. The property is located east of Lakeway Esplanade and Homestead Road, and northwest of US Highway 287 and Rex Odom Drive. (Z14-2026-043) ] AND IT PASSES 5-0. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A LONG ONE. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REZONE 593 .93 THE PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OUT OF THE ABSTRACT NUMBER 620JP ABSTRACT NUMBER 3517 ABSTRACT NUMBER 9289 NEWTON SURVEY ABSTRACT 807 ABSTRACT 1240Z HEATH SURVEY ABSTRACT 455, J KAISER SURVEY ABSTRACT 9557, WEST WILLKEN 1162, JR BEAUCHAMP SURVEY NUMBER 101, AND ABSTRACT NUMBER 226 FROM THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 136 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 136 AND AMENDING AND RESTATING IN THEIR ENTIRETY REGULATIONS OF PD136. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF THE LAKEWAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WORD IS AND HOME STEAD ROAD AND NORTHWEST OF U.S. HIGHWAY 287 AND -- MA'AM. >> SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO GIVE YOU THE WORLD'S LONGEST LEGAL DESCRIPTION. >> THAT'S A LOT OF LAND PARCEL. >> MARION SPENCER AGAIN. HAD A LEFT HAND IN PERSON WITH THE MOUSE. SO IT'S THROWING ME OFF HERE. THIS IS A REQUEST THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU AGAIN TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 136 FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND MIXED USE, SINGLE FAMILY INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES. THE THIS PROPERTY IS 593.93 ACRES, AND WHAT'S CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU SAW IT IS THEY'RE DOING SIX RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICTS, EXPANDED THEIR TOWN HOME DISTRICT FROM ONE [01:10:01] DISTRICT TO TWO. THEY HAVE EXPANDED THEIR COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT FROM ONE TO TWO, PUT THEY ARE KEEPING THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT THE SAME. THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE IS NOW 1.267 OUTSIDE OF FLOOD PLANE. AND IF YOU RECALL, THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT 136 WHICH IS KNOWN AS BRIDGEWATER. THE AND IT INCORPORATING THE SEAL TRACT WHICH IS CURRENTLY AGRICULTURAL. IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF NORTH AND WEST OF THE MIDWAY REGIONAL AIRPORT. AND OF COURSE WEST OF THE EXISTING BRIDGEWATER. DOES THIS SHOWING THE ZONING WHICH IS A AND PD136. AND SHOWING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHICH HAS MEDIUM DENSITY, CORPORATE MODULE, AND THE REGIONAL MODULE. THIS IS STILL CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE GOALS OF THE GUIDING MIDLOTHIAN 2025. AND SO WHAT HAS CHANGED? THIS IS SHOWING THE NEW OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN. I WANT TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT. SO PREVIOUSLY THE AREA SHOW AS TOWNHOME IN THIS COMMERCIAL PIECE AND THIS TOWNHOME AREA HERE, THOSE WERE PROPOSED TO BE MIXED USE. AND THIS PROVINCIAL POD HERE WAS SHOWN AS TOWN HOMES. SO THEY HAVE RELOCATED AND EXPANDED THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON THAT HARD CORNER ALONG 287 AND PUSHED THE TOWNHOME DISTRICT ALONG 287 AND CREATED A RESIDENTIAL POD. ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION AS ENGINEERING IS WORKING ON THE ALIGNMENT OF HAYES ROAD AS A PART OF THAT MTP AMENDMENT, THEY LOOKED AT WHERE HAYES ROAD IS MEETING BRIDGEWATER AND EXITING BRIDGEWATER IN ORDER TO MEET WHERE EXISTING APPROVED PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH OF THIS AND AS WELL AS HITTING 287 AT THE INTERSECTION WITH THE ROADWAY GEOMETRY THEY NEED TO CROSS FLOOD PLANE AND OTHER OBSTRUCTIONS. THEY DID ALIGN IT HERE AND HERE. THAT IS A CHANGE TO THIS POD AREA AND THIS POD AREA JUST A LITTLE BIT. JUST TO REMIND YOU THE PORTION THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES THERE EXCEPT THEY HAVE MOVED THE LOCATION OF THE SCHOOL SITE FROM MISD. IT WAS FURTHER OUT. THEY GOT RID OF THE WAXAHACHI SCHOOL. THAT IS BECOMING RESIDENTIAL. THE BUT THE MIDLOTHIAN ISD SCHOOL SITE JUST MOVED OVER INTO THIS AREA HERE. THIS IS WHAT'S SHOWING WHAT IS BUILT AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY AND KIND OF SHOWING THEIR PLAN OF THEIR PHASING. AL AND SO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY HAVE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF TYPE 3, TYPE 4, AND TYPE 5 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND AS WELL AS THE TOWNHOMES HAVE INCREASED. THEY DID MAKE CHANGES TO TYPE 1 AND 6. >> CAN YOU GO OVER THE SCHOOL THING AGAIN S? >> SURE. SORT OF IN THE ORIGINAL BRIDGEWATER YOU HAD A MIDLOTHIAN ISD SCHOOL SITE WHICH IS SHOWN HERE. AND WAXAHACHI SCHOOL SITE IN THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT T THEY NO LONGER NEEDED A SCHOOL SITE IN BRIDGEWATER. BUT MIDLOTHIAN ISD IS KEEPING THE SCHOOL SITE IN DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD SO THANK YOU FOR STATING THAT. >> SURE. >> SO THEY HAVE MAINTAIN THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY HAD WITHIN THE BRIDGEWATER DEVELOPMENT. AND THEY ARE MAINTAINING A 35-FOOT MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL AND LANDSCAPE DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE STILL MAINTAINING THE HALF MILE RADIUS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND PARTS. AND THEY HAVE A A PART OF THEIR AMENDMENT, THEY HAVE TWO TRAIL [01:15:01] HEADS NOW IN PHASE 2. ONE COMMUNITY PARK, TWO POCKET PARKS, AND THREE NEIGHBOURHOOD CORRIDORS WITHIN THE SPACE. AND THIS IS SHOWING THE LAYOUTS OF THE NEIGHBOURHOOD CORRIDOR TRAIL HEAD POCKET PARK AND THE SIZES OF THE PARK, THE DIFFERENT PARKS THAT ARE REQUIRED WITHIN BRBRIDGEWATER. AND THIS IS SHOWING THE ADDED AMENITIES THAT WILL OCCUR ON THE EXISTING AMENITY AREA. THEY WILL BE ADDING PAVILION RECREATION, AMENITY AREA AND TRAILS. AND THIS IS SHOWING THE TRAIL PLAN FOR PHASE 2. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALL CONNECTED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN HASN'T CHANGED EXCEPT FOR HAYES ROAD WHERE IT IS CONNECTING TO BRIDGEWATER. WE DID SEND PROPERTY NOTIFICATIONS TO 26 PROPERTY OWNERS. WE DID GET OPPOSITION FROM THIS PROPERTY OWNER RIGHT HERE SOUTH AT BRIDGEWATER ALONG AT THE INTERSECTION OF REXODAM. I SPOKE TO THE ELDERLY GENTLEMAN EARLIER TODAY, AND HIS CONCERNS WERE RELATED TO THE LAND USE ADJACENT TO HIS PARCEL. HE JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO HIM WAS ALSO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE HE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY BEING ADJACENT TO HIM AND A TO BUILD WALLS NOW. I SENT HIM THE LAYOUT SAYING IT'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ADJACENT TO HIM, AND HE WAS OKAY WITH THAT. HE HAD OTHER ISSUES REGARDING A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE AND RESTATE THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF PD136. >> THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL. >> BEFORE HE COMES UP I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE SIGNABLE. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT SIGNS. BUT THEY'RE EXTERNALLY LIT IS HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM COMMERCIAL AND SUBDIVISION? >> THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THEIR COMMERCIAL PEES. ALONG 287. SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. >> SO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS WOULD BE HERE. THE AREAS WHERE THEY DO EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATED SIGNS. OR INTERNALLY SORRY. >> WITH THE ORDINANCE THIS IS SECTION 8 I BELIEVE D2. IT SAYS SUBDIVISION ENTRY SIGNS SHALL BE EXTERNALLY LIT. >> CORRECT. UNDER THIS NEW ORDINANCE REWARDING, ARE WE GOOD WITH EXTERNAL IF IT'S A SUBDIVISION BUT WE WANT INTERNAL IF IT'S COMMERCIAL? >> SO THE EXTERNALLY LILT SIGNS, IT PROJECTS ONTO THE SIGN BASE. THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE NOW THEY DID NOT REQUEST FOR THOSE TO BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. BUT IT BASICALLY PROJECTS ONTO THE SIGN. >> RIGHT. I'M JUST ASKING IS THAT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE WANT GOING FORWARD? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. AND FOR HAYES ROAD, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER AGREEMENTS WITH THEM WITH THE PAYMENTS WORKING WITH LAGOS? >> NOT AT THIS TIME. >> SO THE CITY WILL BE BUILDING THIS PORTION OF HAYES ROAD? >> WE'RE STILL WORKING OFF THAT. >> THE WAY IT WORKS IS YOU DEVELOP IT, YOU TYPICALLY BUILD IT AND WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR HALF THE ROAD. DEPENDING ON HOW THEY DEVELOPMENT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE EASTERN HALF. THEY DEVELOP THE RESIDENTIAL IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE EASTERN HALF. WILL IT ARE TALK WITH DEVELOPERS TO THE NORTH OF THAT AS WELL. BUT THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COMING THROUGH. >> WE HAVE CONCRETE ON HALF AND ASPHALT ON HALF. AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO TO COME AND FINISH THE CONCRETE HALF OF THE DEVELOPMENT. >> WHEN IT REACHES THE LIFE-SPAN. WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR PAYING PER IT. [01:20:04] BUT WE'RE GOING TO LET OUR MONEY'S WORTH FOR ASPHALT BEFORE WE REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IN THE CONCRETE LANES. >> OKAY. SO HAYES ROAD NOT BEING RIGHT NOW TODAY IN THIS VICINITY, HOW WILL THAT BE BUILT OUT NOW IN THIS ORDER UNANIMOUS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT? >> IT'S NOT. THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. >> I'M WONDERING OR CONFUSED WITH THE MEANING OF HOW WE BUILT IT OR HOW THEY BUILT IT. THE ARE WE TALKING MATERIALS CONCRETE OR TALKING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THE DEVELOPER. >> JUST LIKE WE DID WITH RANCHO LAGO. SO WHEN THEY CAME FORWARD AND WE DISCUSSED THAT AGREEMENT FOR THAT ROAD, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO HAVE A ROAD HERE OR CONTRIBUTE OR HAVE ANY GUIDANCE ON HOW THAT. >> NOT AT THIS POINT, NO. THIS IS JUST ENTITLEMENT FOR THE LAND USE. >> OKAY. EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON THEIR LAND. >> TYPICALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING IT. NOSE LIKELY THERE WOULD BE FURTHER CONVERSATION ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THEY COULD SELL OFF THE EASTERN PART WITH A DEVELOPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT WOULDN'T COME TO THE PNZ. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK SOME. >> (INAUDIBLE). >> GO THROUGH REAL QUICK. IT'S THE SAME THING. AND AGAIN LIKE MARION SAID, WE APPROVED PNZ WITH THE MIXED USE IN THE SOUTH FOR A TOWNHOME THAT WAS DENIED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MIXED USE REALLY WAS AND SO THEY WERE CONFUSED. THAT'S THE ONLY THING. WE HAVE MADE COMMITMENTS TO THE CITY THAT WE WILL BUILD IT AS WE PLAT AGAINST IT FOR THE TWO LANES SOFT AS SOON AS WE BUILD THE SUBDIVISION UP TO IT. ONCE WE GET OVER THERE WITH THE SUBDIVISION GUIDELINES AND RULES RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO LANES PERIOD END OF STORY. THIS IS AARON AND WILL WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN AND WE'LL BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> 2001 DALLAS, TEXAS AT 75202. JUST WANT TO RUN THROUGH THIS IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS AND A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'RE AT. EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, FROM BRIDGEWATER YOU GO OUT AND SEE AND TOUCH AND EXPERIENCE BASICALLY ALL THE AMENITIES, SCREENING, JUST BUNDLING ALL THAT UP AND TAKING THE SEALED PROPERTY, FOLDING IT INTO BRIDGEWATER AND TRANSITIONING THE USE TO THE AIRPORT. SO OVERALL FULL BUILDOUT WE ARE ADDING 290 ACRES IN. OF THAT 2 290 ACRES WE ARE ALSO REVISING BRIDGEWATER TO BETTER CONNECT, UNIFY SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PIECES. THE WHAT MARION SHOWED YOU GETTING REVISED JUST TO MAKE IT MORE CONNECTED. SO THE ORIGINAL ZONING OF BRIDGEWATER DIDN'T HAVE SEAL. ON 287 ON THE SOUTH SIDE WAS COMMERCIAL. WE HAD ONE CROSSING. FROM EAST TO THE TOP OF THE PLAN. WHAT WE HAVE DONE NOW TO BRIDGEWATER GOT TWO MORE CORRECTIONS ACROSS THE CREEK SO WHAT THAT'S DONE IS LIFT UP MORE ROAD CONNECTIONS. SO I FEEL BE TAKEN THE FRONTAGE DOWN HOMES AND JUST SHIFTED THAT ROAD A LITTLE BIT SOS THAT THE TRANSITIONAL USES ON 287. JUST SO SHOW YOU THE CONTEXT OF WHERE SEAL IS COMPARISON TO BRIDGEWATER. O'. THE AMENITIES, THE SIGNAGE AND FOR SOMEBODY WHO ISN'T FAMILIAR [01:25:02] WITH IT. THESE ARE THE ZONING EXHIBITS. THIS IS WHAT IS BUILT. SO WE GO THROUGH A LOT OF TIME. PROMISING THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET. SO YOU HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE PAVILIONS, THE TOWERS. THE FIRST AMENITY CENTRE. AND THEN STILL ADDING TO YOUR POPULATION PEOPLE ARE CHOOING THESE PLACES AND SPACES. THEY'RE MEANINGFUL. WHICH WE LOVE IS DESIGNERS. PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT THESE STORIES OF LIFE. THIS IS RIGHT AT THE ENTRY OF THE ENTRY DRIVE ON THE SOIL CONSERVATION LAKE. THIS IS IN FOR PERMIT RIGHT NOW WITH THE CITY. THIS WILL BE ABOUT A $8 MILLION WHICH IS MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL ZONING. THIS WILL BE THE CORE FACILITY FOR EVERYBODY IN BRIDGEWATER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S FILED ON THE PERMIT. WHEN WE LOOKED AT LAND WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH BRIDGEWATER, THE WHOLE STORY WHEN YOU SEE THE FRONT OF HOMES, DON'T SEE A LOT OF SCREEN WALL. MENT THEY SEE THE KIDS IN THE FRONT YARD, GRANDPARENT ON THE FRONT PORCH. WE WANT THAT LIFESTYLE. BEAUTIFUL LAKES, CREEK WAYS, BEAUTIFUL TREES. THOSE ARE THE BACK BONES OF OUR DESIGN. WE JUST SPRINKLE IN RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND FIT THE ROADS INTO THE LAND. WE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF A LOT SPECIFICALLY WITH HAYES ROAD. WE ARE TIEING IN WITH THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH. A LOT OF VISTAS. WORKS WITH THE ZONING CASE OF THAT AND TO THE SOUTH ACTUALLY SHIFTED HAYES. THE WE WORKED WITH MR. ADAMS ON THAT TRANSITION TO INDUSTRIAL USE. SO WHAT THIS PLAN DOES IS EVERYTHING EAST OF HAYES TO THE AIRPORT WILL BE INDUSTRIAL JUST DEFAULTING TO Y'ALL'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMPONENTS SO THE EXPANSIONS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN OUT THERE AT THE AIRPORT. SO THIS PLAN FOLDS IN WITH REWORKING AND DIFFERENT ROADWAYS. 710 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS BUT ADDITIONAL 50, 60, 70 LOTS ANDN. THAT'S MOSTLY DUE TO THE TOWNHOME HAS GROWN. IF YOU REMEMBER BEFORE THIS ROAD WAS KIND OF OFF SET. THE TOWNHOME HAS GROWN WITH THAT ROAD SHIFTING THE ADDITIONAL CREEK CROSSINGS FROM BRIDGEWATER TO SEAL. EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT IS THE SAME. SO THE SCHOOL SITE, THAT'S OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY OWN THAT. SO THAT'S RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS VERY WALKABLE WITH THE CREEK INCLUDING THE SCHOOL LOCATIONS. THE MATHEMATICAL SUMMARY BRIDGEWATER PD, 2,500 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. THIS IS A TOTAL OF 910 MORE, 710 SINGLE FAMILY, 200 MORE TOWNHOME SOS A TOTAL OF 3,025 UNITS. BUT 616 UNITS OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FROM WHAT WAS ZONED. PLUS WE HAVE THE HAYES ALIGNMENT CONNECTING ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH. SO THAT WORKS WELL WITH THAT COORDINATED EFFORT. OUR DENSITY 2.7 WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE INTENSE WITH THE BRIDGEWATER ZONING. SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT FOR AMENITY BUS ALSO SINGLE FAMILY COMPONENTS. THE ORIGINAL VALUE WAS ESTIMATED TO BE 750 TO 950 MILLION. TO DATE ALMOST 200 MILLION. THERE WE FEEL THAT WITH THE SALES PACE AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THIS NEW PROJECTION WOULD BE $1.7 BILLION. SO THAT IS THAT. WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR SCREENING OF THE ROADWAY EXHIBITS. ALL OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD ARE THE SAME. WE JUST EXPANDED THE LAND AREA. WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE SCHOOLS. HOW MANY KIDS DO WE PROJECT FOR HOME? [01:30:03] IS IT 1 POINTAL OR 1.4? SO IF I AM UNDERSTANDING IT RIGHT AND USING THAT MATH, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1,800 KIDS IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD SO WE HAVE ONE LAW SCHOOL IN PLAY; IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. THEAND ON THE NORTH RIGHT HERE O WHERE THE MIDDLE WILL BE AND WILL SOME ELEMENTARY UP HERE. THAT'S ALL THEY WANTED. TO SELL THEM ANOTHER ONE BUT THEY SAID FOR OURS HERE IS EVERYTHING OVER HERE IS WHAT'S IN THE SCHOOLS. >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT NUMBER IS? HOW MANY OF THESE 3,000 HOMES. >> I WOULD SAY AT LEAST A THOUSAND. >> AND THEY DECLINED A SCHOOL MEANING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT OR YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO THEM? >> NO. I JUST SAID HERE IS ONE. Y'ALL NEED IS SCHOOL AND THEY SAID NO. THEY HAVE BEEN BUSING. >> YEAH, IS THAT A MILE? THAT'S ONLY A MILE. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE SEAL ADDITION, HOW MANY MORE HOMES ARE WE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE YOU TRANSITIONED FROM THE OLD TO THE IN YOU. YOU INCREASED DENSITY IN A FEW AREAS THAT AREN'T PART OF THE SEAL. SO DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER? >> IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SEAL. >> SO IF YOU DIDN'T ADD THAT WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN. ALL THE ROADS, THE CROSSINGS GO BACK. THAT WOULD BE 8900, 710 LESS SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 600 LESS TOWN HOMES SO 910 LESS SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. >> RIGHT. BUT CAN YOU GO BACK TO WHERE YOU HAD THE SEAL TRACK AT? BECAUSE OKAY. GO BACK DOWN LEASE PLEASE. I'M SORRY. RIGHT THERE. SO THE AREA SHADED WHERE IT SAYS DETENTION, THAT AREA ON THE MAP YOU INCREASE DENSITY. YOU INCREASE DENSITY OUTSIDE OF THE SEAL TRACK. >> NOT MUCH AT ALL. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK IF YOU DO THIS. >> THAT'S PROBABLY IF WE'RE INCREASING 710 YOU STILL GOT ABOUT A 5, 600 OVER THERE UNDER THIS PLAN CURRENTLY IN THE CURRENT ZONING. SO AGAIN THE OVERALL DENSITY IS ABOUT THE SAME. SO IT'S NOT, WE'RE JUST OVER HERE WE'RE ADDING A DIFFERENT MIXTURE OF LOCKS DOING 80, 70, 60, 50S, AND SO YOU'RE GETTING A BETTER MIX OVER THE WHOLE NEIGHBOURHOOD WITH THE SEAL TRACT AS WELL. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WE ARE GIVING THE CITY, THE AIRPORT A CHANCE TO HAVE BETTER AIRPORT USE UP THERE WITH SERVICES WITH THIS SEAL TRACK TWO THAT WAS UP TO 100 AND WHAT ERICS? >> 106. >> AND THAT WAS FROM CURRENTLY 46. AND ANOTHER 73 OF SEAL LAND FOR INDUSTRIAL AIRPORT USE AS WELL. >> AND YOU SAID YOU'RE GIVING THAT TO US? >> NO. WE'RE ZONING IT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS, COMMISSIONERS? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS. >> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. VOTE PLEASE. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. AND I GUESS LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT CURT MCDONNELL IS WITHDRAWN FROM THIS CASE. ABSTAINING. OKAY, GUYS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF IS THIS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. [MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION ] [01:35:17] (INAUDIBLE). >> THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. STAFF. MISCELLANEOUS CONVERSATION. >> SO LAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY THERE WAS THE FIRST THERE WAS A JOINT PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING PROPOSED FOR AUGUST 21ST TO KIND OF GO OVER THE DRONE DELIVERY PRESENTATION AGAIN WITH COUNCIL TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >> IS THAT AT 8:30? >> YES. >> WILL THERE BE DOUGHNUTS? >> I BELIEVE THERE GENERALLY IS FOOD. THEY HAVE BREAKFAST AND DOUGHNUT AT THAT. >> WE'LL LET TAMMY TAKE CARE OF OUR DOUGHNUTS FOR US. >> YES. AND I WANT TO THANK THE GUYS THAT WENT TO THE NCT COG PLANNING AND ZONING LAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SO AFTER WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TRAINED. THAT'S A REQUEST FROM CITY COUNCIL TO GET YOU ALL OF PNZ AND THE MAJORITY OF ZONING BOARD TRAINED. THE FACT THIS YEAR WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY THAT APA AND THE COG HAVE PUT OUT A LOT OF BOARD TRAINING AND THE FACT THAT THEY FILL UP, IT'S TELLING US THAT THAT IS NOT A CHARGE JUST FOR MIDLOTHIAN. IT'S BECOMING A REAL THING ON ALL CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSION. SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET IN TO THE AUGUST 7TH ONE, IT IS NOW SOLD OUT AND THAT IS A WAY TO LIST. SO THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY IS NOT UNTIL OCTOBER. IT IS WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY BEFORE YOU HAVE TO SIT THROUGH PNZ FOLLOWING THURSDAY. THE IT THE STATE APA CONFERENCE. AND IT IS IN IRVING THIS YEAR. SO AGAIN NOT HAVING TO TRAVEL. IT'S JUST UP THE ROAD. AND IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ONE, IT'S PRETTY FUN, AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN COMMISSIONER TRAPPED AT THAT CONVENTION AS WELL. JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT AND WE'LL COVER THAT. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AN AWARD, Y'ALL. THAT'S WHY WE ARE REALLY, REALLY STRESSING IT. THE REAL REASON IS WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP AN AWARD. >> CAN I REQUEST WE TURN ON THE AIR CONDITIONER. >> IT'S WARM IN HERE. >> I THOUGHT ACTIVITY JUST ME. >> I WAS WORRIED. >> PUBLIC WORK IS AWARE OF IT. UNFORTUNATELY THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO PICKS IT UNTIL TOMORROW. THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH US. >> I FIGURED RON DID IT ON PURPOSE TO MAKE THIS MEETING GO FASTER AND IT WASN'T WORKING. >> YEAH. THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THIS PART OF CITY HALL. >> I HAVE BEEN WATCHING WORLD CUP AND THEY ALWAYS TAKE THEIR SHIRT OFF AT THE END OF THE GAME SO, I FIGURE THAT'S THE NEW ZONING THING. >> WE WON. >> YEAH. THE SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND WE'LL LET THEM KNOW IT'S STILL NOT WORKING. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT REGULARLY. SO PLEASE EXCUSE OUR D PER SE. >> IT'S HARD WHEN IT'S 105 OUTSIDE. >> THAT PART. (INAUDIBLE). >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE WHOLE THING BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GET ACCESS TO THE WHOLE CONFERENCE BECAUSE I KNOW IF YOU CAN ATTEND THE MAJORITY OF THE ONES IN THE COMMISSIONER TRACK BECAUSE I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID I WANT TO GO BUT I HAVE A WORK OBLIGATION ON ONE OF THE DAYS. WOULD BE REALLY HAPPY IF YOU COULD ATTEND AT LEAST TWO. YOU WENT TO THE NCG COG BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE YOU IN COLLEGE STATION. [01:40:06] YEAH. THAT WAS THE TWO FULL DAY ONE. NO, THAT'S IT. YES, YOU CAN. >> OKAY. SO ON THE RECORD WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.