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TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 25TH, 2026. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL PRESENT, SO I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE QUICK NOTE IF YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING ON ANY AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING, PLEASE TURN IN A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION FORM TO THE CITY SECRETARY OVER HERE TO MY LEFT. PROBABLY YOU ARE RIGHT BEFORE THAT AGENDA ITEM OPENS. ONCE THAT AGENDA ITEM IS OPEN, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON SAID AGENDA ITEM. SO PLEASE, IF YOU PLAN TO SPEAK, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO FILL OUT A FORM SO THAT WE CAN PROPERLY PROCESS THROUGH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS EVENING WITH INVOCATION AND PLEDGES GOING TO BE LED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. PRAY WITH ME. HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU FOR SLIGHTLY COOLER WEATHER AND HOPEFULLY MORE OF THAT TO COME.

PLEASE BE WITH US TONIGHT. GIVE US YOUR WISDOM, YOUR GRACE, AND YOUR EARS TO LISTEN WITH.

PLEASE HELP US TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT BENEFIT ALL OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AS THEY GET BACK INTO THE SWING OF THINGS. IN CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WEAVER. WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH ITEM 2026 279 ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS. ITEM A CITY COUNCIL TO REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE TO SPEAK UP ON ANY ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 2026 280 CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC THAT'S NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION FORM PRESENTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE ITEM BEING OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. EXCUSE ME. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. TAMMY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS TONIGHT? OKAY. NO

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SPEAKERS ON CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA. ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND ENACTED BY ONE MOTION WITHOUT SEPARATE DISCUSSION. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM CAN BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. AND THAT'S ITEM 2026 281. ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS FROM CONSENT THIS EVENING. ITEM B REMOVING ITEM B, IS THAT WAS THAT CORRECT? B AS IN BOY YES. OKAY. ANY OTHERS? COUNCIL AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM B. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND TO APPROVE MINUS ITEM B SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 6 TO 0. SO WE WILL OPEN ITEM B FROM CONSENT AGENDA. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A QUOTE FROM DMW DESIGN GROUP FOR COMMERCIAL TIPS. VENDOR 24010402 TO CONSTRUCT TWO METAL BUILDINGS FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION FIELD OFFICE AND BREAK ROOM FOR THE SHOP FOR A COST OF $171,197.52, PLUS 5% CONTINGENCY FOR A TOTAL COST OF 179757 40 CASE YOUR QUESTIONS. YEAH. NO. THIS IS THE METAL BUILDINGS FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO OBVIOUSLY I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK. AND AGAIN, THE QUOTE, IT DOES MENTION IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING OR HVAC. JUST WANTED TO KIND OF JUST TALK THROUGH AND JUST KIND OF GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL UPDATE ON WHERE WE EXPECT THOSE EXPENDITURES TO FALL. YES, SIR. SO THE HVAC AND ALL THE OTHER UTILITY WORK IS NOT INCLUDED. EVERY TIME WE'VE TRIED TO BID THIS PROJECT OUT, IT WAS COMING IN WAY OVER BUDGET. AND WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, THEY'RE UP CHARGING US TO HIRE A SUBCONTRACTOR TO DO THAT WORK. SO WE'RE JUST GETTING OUR OWN BIDS RIGHT NOW AND HAVING THEM COME OUT AND WORK ON THAT. AND ALL OF THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE TWO PREVIOUS TAX NOTES. FOR ONE, THAT WAS FOR THE WORKSHOP, AND THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS FOR THE BIG SHOP, THE 50 BY 100. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CUT THOSE COSTS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING REALLY LOW TO TRY TO FINISH THIS. AND SOME OF THE WORK WE'LL BE DOING IN-HOUSE, MAYBE SOME OF THE WALLS AND THINGS OF THAT TO SAVE COSTS. THANK YOU MA'AM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM B CASE? YOU MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND. TAMMY, I DON'T HAVE IT UP HERE TO VOTE.

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MOTION MADE. SECOND MADE BY A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CHESHIRE. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU HEATHER. THANK YOU. CASEY.

[2026-282 Conduct a public hearing regarding the proposed FY 2026-2027 Annual Operating Budgets for the City of Midlothian.]

MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, 2026 282 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2627 ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGETS FOR THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. WELCOME AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE BUDGET PROCESS BEGAN FOR US IN APRIL, AND WE GOT THE CITY COUNCIL INVOLVED BEGINNING IN JULY. WE HAD A PROPOSED MEETING REVIEW ON 717.

WE HAD COUNCIL WORKSHOP ONE THROUGH THREE. THE LAST ONE OF THOSE WAS ON AUGUST THE 10TH.

THEN WE. ON THE AUGUST 11TH MEETING, WE PROPOSED THE TAX RATE OF $0.64 PER 100 AND TOOK A RECORD VOTE. AND THEN WE ALSO ANNOUNCED AND SCHEDULED THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET. AND THEN WE ALSO ANNOUNCED AND SCHEDULED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE INCREASE WE'VE HAD SCHEDULED NOW, PUBLIC HEARING, NUMBER ONE, ON THE ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND PUBLIC HEARING. NUMBER TWO WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 8TH IN COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 102.006. THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH INTERESTED PERSONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED BUDGETS BEFORE ADOPTION. A NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS POSTED APPROPRIATELY. AUGUST 11TH AND 25TH AND CITY COUNCIL WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE APRIL 11TH OR APRIL. OH MY GOODNESS. AUGUST 11TH AND AUGUST 25TH. CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. ADDITIONALLY, IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE LOTHIAN MIRROR ON AUGUST 15TH AND AGAIN ON WILL IS PUBLISHED AGAIN AUGUST 29TH AND IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ON AUGUST 20TH. AND IT'S CURRENTLY POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THE TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD HAS ALSO BEEN POSTED AS WELL. THE PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE OF $0.64. THAT'D BE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF 0.336585. AND THE INTEREST IN SINKING, OR THE DEBT PORTION OF THE TAX RATE PROPOSED IS 0.303415. TOGETHER, THE GENERATE $28,637,456 AT A 99% RATE FOR M AND O, AND 25,815,373 FOR THE INTEREST IN SINKING OR DEBT. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE ANY AMOUNTS TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE TRS. WE DO HAVE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA THE BUDGET SHEETS, AND THERE'S NO OFFICIAL ACTION TO BE TAKEN TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND TAKE A RECORD VOTE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AT THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026 MEETING, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR GO THROUGH ANY OF THESE CHANGES. CHANGE SHEETS IF YOU'D LIKE. THANK YOU. AND TAMMY, PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THE DATE THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 8TH FOR THE FINAL VOTE. YES, YES, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, THE NEXT DAY ON SEPTEMBER 9TH WILL BE VOTING ON THE TAX RATE AND THE RATIFICATION OF THE TAX INCREASE. RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. QUESTIONS OF AN WITH WITH NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND NO

[2026-283 Conduct a public hearing regarding the proposed FY 2026-2027 Annual Operating Budget and Assessment Plan for the City of Midlothian Public Improvement District Number One (MidTowne PID), as established by Ordinance 2008-28, as authorized by Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code (Case No. M13-2010-63)]

VOTE NEEDED ON THIS ITEM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. AN 2026 283 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2627 ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR THE CITY. MIDLOTHIAN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE MIDTOWN PIT AS ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 2008 28 AND AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 372 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. AND SO, YES, MAYOR, THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS ALSO ADVERTISED IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR ON AUGUST 15TH, 2026. THE PROPOSED BUDGET HAS A TOTAL OPERATING COST OF

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143,400 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2627. THE PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT SHALL BE LEVIED ANNUALLY BASED ON THE VALUATION DETERMINED BY ELLIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THE PROPOSED BUDGET SHALL ALSO HAVE THE FOLLOWING ASSESSMENT. AND I'LL POINT OUT THIS IS THE SAME ASSESSMENT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY LEVIED BASED ON 22,008 ZERO FOR UNPLATTED PROPERTY, $0.12 PER 100 OF APPRAISED VALUE FOR RESIDENTIAL LOTS OF RECORD AND $0.07 PER 100 OF APPRAISED VALUE FOR NONRESIDENTIAL LOTS OF RECORD. BASED ON THE APPRAISALS FROM ELLIS COUNTY, PROJECTED ASSESSMENT REVENUES ARE APPROXIMATELY 137 987 PLUS PROJECTED INTEREST TO BE EARNED OF 4000, FOR A TOTAL REVENUES OF $141,987, WITH ANTICIPATED OR PROJECTED EXPENSES OF APPROXIMATELY 143,400. SO THIS DOES RESULT IN A SLIGHT DEFICIT OF ANTICIPATED OF $1,413 DURING THE FISCAL YEAR. WE DO HAVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND AN ASSESSMENT PLAN, AND THIS WAS ALSO PROPERLY POSTED. AND THAT POSTING IS ATTACHED. I'LL BE GLAD TO GO THROUGH ANY PORTION OF THIS IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND SO PUBLIC HEARING, ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS, NO PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED. MOTION MADE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD. PLEASE VOTE. THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES 6 TO 0. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM WITH AN. HEARING NONE. TAKE A MOTION ON IT. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION MADE TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND'S PAM. IT'S NOT NOT AVAILABLE TO TO START THE VOTE. THERE IT GOES. SYSTEMS LAGGING TONIGHT. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ACTION ON THIS.

THE ARE SUPPOSED TO APPROVE IT. YES. YES. YEAH. GOOD. OKAY. VOTES BEEN TAKEN 6 TO 0. IT

[2026-284 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon the adoption of an ordinance accepting and approving an amended and restated service and assessment plan and assessment rolls for Improvement Areas #3-6 in the Redden Farms Public Improvement District, levying special assessments against certain property in Improvement Areas #3-6, and making certain findings and determinations relating to the District.]

PASSES. OKAY. OPENING ITEM 2026 284. IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING AND APPROVING THE AMENDMENT AND RESTATED SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR ASSESSMENT ROLES FOR IMPROVEMENT AREAS. NUMBER THREE THROUGH SIX IN THE RED AND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, LEVYING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AGAINST CERTAIN PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AREAS THREE THROUGH SIX AND MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS AND DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE DISTRICT. CLYDE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL. THIS WAS APPROVED ON AT THE LAST MEETING.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS CALLED FOR AT THE AUGUST 11TH MEETING. RED AND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS WAS CREATED UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS BY HOUSE BILL NUMBER 1758 OF THE 82ND TEXAS LEGISLATURE. REGULAR SESSION 2011 AND THE NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS TO BE LEVIED AGAINST CERTAIN ASSESSABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE IMPROVEMENTS AREAS OF RED AND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR ON AUGUST 8TH AND AUGUST 15TH AND POSTED TO THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN WEBSITE UNDER PUBLIC NOTICES, AND SO THESE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE STREETS, DRAINAGE, SANITARY SEWER, WATER, SOFT COSTS, GRADING AND EROSION CONTROL. AND THIS IS THE MAP WE SHOWED THE LAST TIME. THESE ARE THE VARIOUS IMPROVEMENT AREAS OF RED AND FARMS. TO THE NORTH IS 1387. AND TO THE SOUTH IS EASTGATE ROUGHLY. AND THESE ARE THE IMPROVEMENT COSTS. SO 5,633,000 OVER THAT FOR AREA THREE. AREA FOUR HAS 5,119,000. AREA FIVE HAS 1,422,000. AND THEN AREA SIX IS 596,000. WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CLYDE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK WITH NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CHESHIRE, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMOND'S.

THERE IT IS. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 0. ALL RIGHT, SO COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF CLYDE OR

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STAFF ON THIS CASE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE NOTE THAT THERE'S A. THERE IS A RECOMMENDED VERBIAGE ON THE. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. BUT THIS IS JUST ADDING IN THE NEWLY DEVELOPED TRACKS INTO THE SERVICE PLAN. YES, SIR. YES. AND IT'S ALSO AMENDING THE SERVICE PLAN FOR THE FEES OR THE THE COST OF IMPROVEMENTS HAVE CHANGED. GOTCHA. YEAH. MY MY QUESTION, ARE WE STILL WITHIN THE FINANCIAL PARAMETERS AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT COUNCIL ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED WHEN WE APPROVED THE RED AND FARMS? WELL, THIS IS AN UPDATED SERVICE AND UPDATED. SO IT IS THE THE COST HAVE INCREASED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. AND WE'LL GET TO THAT OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. GOTCHA.

THANK YOU SIR. FURTHER DISCUSSION MOTIONS MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING AND APPROVING AN AMENDED AND RESTATED SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLLS FOR IMPROVEMENT AREAS. THREE THROUGH SIX IN THE RIDDEN FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, LEVYING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AGAINST CERTAIN PROPERTY AND IMPROVEMENT AREAS THREE THROUGH SIX AND APPROVING ALL OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO. OKAY.

MOTION MADE TO APPROVE. AS NOTED BY COUNCILMAN CHESHER. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER.

[2026-285 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a liquid natural gas processing facility on Lot 2, Block 3, Railport Business Park, located at 5091 Brookhollow Drive. (Case No. SUP09-2026-056)]

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CLYDE. OPENING ITEM UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS 2026 285 CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR LIQUID NATURAL GAS PROCESSING FACILITY ON LOT TWO, BLOCK THREE RAILPORT BUSINESS PARK, LOCATED AT 5091 BROOK HOLLOW DRIVE. MIRIAM, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. MARION SPENCER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. THE NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST TO AMEND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR LIQUID NATURAL GAS PROCESSING PLANT OVER AT 5091 BREKALO DRIVE. THE PROPERTY IS 31.29 ACRES AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WITH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS FOR THE THE LIQUID NATURAL GAS PROCESSING FACILITY. AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO AMEND THEIR SITE PLAN. SOME HISTORY ON THE CASE AS IT WAS ANNEXED AND ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN 1998, AND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED IN 2013. IT'S SURROUNDED BY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND AGRICULTURAL AND MEDIUM, INDUSTRIAL AND AG TO THE SOUTH, AND THE ONLY DEVELOPED SITE IN THIS AREA IS THE LIQUID NATURAL GAS PLANT TO THE NORTH OF IT. AND SO THIS IS THE UPDATED SITE PLAN. THEY'RE ADDING A SECOND PAD FOR WHAT THEY CALL A LIQUID NATURAL GAS PROCESSING TRAIN. AND IT'S LOCATING THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON THE EXISTING GRAVEL PAVEMENT AREA THAT WAS APPROVED AS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AND SO THEY'RE THE FACILITY. WHAT THEY DO IS THEY COOL THE NATURAL GAS TO REDUCE THE VOLUME OF THE GAS SO THAT IT CAN BE IN A LIQUID FORM, SO IT CAN BE STORED AND TRANSPORTED. IT'S GOING TO MATCH THE EXISTING FACILITY THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT HERE. AND THE TOTAL HEIGHT IS 60.5FT. AND SO THIS IS THE ELEVATIONS OF THE STRUCTURES. IT'S CALLED LIKE A TRAIN BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A TRAIN. AND THIS IS AN IMAGE SHOWING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE TWO OUT THERE. AND SO THIS STACK HERE IS 60FT IN HEIGHT. THERE'S SOME TANKS AND THOSE ARE AT 24FT. AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF IT IS ROUGHLY 12FT AS SHOWN HERE. AND SO WE DID SEND OUT 12 POSTCARDS FOR THE CP AMENDMENT. AND WE THERE'S A SIGN PLACE AND IT WAS POSTED IN THE MIDLOTHIAN MIRROR. AND WE RECEIVED NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR INPUT FOR THIS CASE. AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AMENDMENT. AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WELL AT THE AUGUST 18TH MEETING. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR QUESTIONS. AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE, UNFORTUNATELY. THANK YOU. TAMMY. ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CASE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CHESHIRE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 0. COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF MIRIAM OR STAFF. YEAH. JUST ONE MINOR QUESTION FOR ME. I THINK THE LAND USE TO ME IS THE LEAST

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INTERESTING PART OF THIS ONE. YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS SECOND PROCESSING PLANT, HAVE EITHER FIRE OR PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF REVIEWED THE EXPANSION OR ANY CHANGES TO THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLANS. JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. YES, THEY DID REVIEW. NOT ONLY DID THEY REVIEW THE OUR APPLICATION FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO SEEN THE CIVIL PLANS AND ENGINEERING PLANS IN THE BUILDING PLANS FOR THE SITE, BOTH BUILDING FIRE AND ENGINEERING HAVE REVIEWED IT.

THEY'RE READY FOR PERMIT MINUS THIS ACTION. RUSS, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE EXISTING FACILITY THAT WE'RE DOUBLING IN SIZE? NO THANK YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOTIONS? I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT. GOING BACK TO WHEN I FIRST CAME INVOLVED WITH IT. TO ME, D THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN A VERY GOOD PARTNER WITH OUR CITY AND NEVER BEEN ANY INCIDENCES. AND THAT WAS ALWAYS THE BIG QUESTION MARK. WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THIS KIND OF COMPONENT, THIS CLOSE TO THE CITY. AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT IT. OKAY. MOTION MADE TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU. MIRIAM. OPENING ITEM

[2026-286 Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon an ordinance amending the City of Midlothian Comprehensive Plan pursuant to Chapter 213 of the Texas Local Government Code to incorporate the Downtown Character Area Map and Downtown Design Guidelines. (CP01-2026-048)]

2026 286. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 213 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO INCORPORATE THE DOWNTOWN CHARACTER AREA MAP AND DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES, I WELCOME DANIEL FROM FREESE AND NICHOLS TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL, FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT. I'M PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT.

WITH ME IS CONNOR ROBERTS AND LAVENDER PARK. AND WE'RE GOING TO JUST WALK YOU BRIEFLY THROUGH A PRESENTATION THAT REALLY SUMMARIZES THE CONTENTS OF THE DOCUMENT AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW, SUMMARY OF THE INPUT ENGAGEMENT RECAP THAT WE'VE HAD, TALK ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN GUIDELINES THEMSELVES, AND TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS WITH REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATIONS TO LEAD INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR WHETHER YOU'D WANTED TO ADOPT THE DOWNTOWN GUIDELINES. SO REALLY, THE PROJECT PURPOSE IS TO IDENTIFY TRANSITIONAL ISSUES IN DOWNTOWN AND ALSO FIND SOLUTIONS TO REALIZE THE VISION THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OTHER PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS AND IMPLEMENT.

THOSE HAVE THAT DIRECTION TO HOW DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT IN ZONING? SO SOME OF THE PROJECT PHASING THE FIRST PHASE, WE REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, GETTING PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS, AND THEN TWO, DRAFTING THOSE STANDARDS THAT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN REFINEMENT AND FINALIZATION IS WHERE WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. SO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT RECAP. WE'VE HAD A DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS WITH THEM TO GO THROUGH DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND DIFFERENT DIFFERENT FEATURES, AND TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF DOWNTOWN. WE'VE HAD PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AS WELL, WHERE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY CAN TURN OUT OR TO TURN OUT TO GET OUR PROVIDE THEIR INPUT. WE'VE HAD VIRTUAL ENGAGEMENT WHERE WE'VE HAD ONLINE RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THOSE IN-PERSON MEETINGS. THEY COULD PROVIDE THEIR INPUT THAT WAY, AND THEN INPUT FROM THE P AND Z AND ALSO COUNCIL AS WELL. SO REALLY, SOME KEY THEMES THAT ARE DERIVED FROM THAT INPUT IS, OF COURSE, PRESERVING DOWNTOWN'S HISTORIC AND SMALL TOWN IDENTITY. WE REALLY ALSO WANTED TO ENCOURAGE CONTEXT SENSITIVE DESIGNS THAT REINFORCE THE DOWNTOWN'S CHARACTER. SO WHAT ARE ELEMENTS THAT REALLY HELP PRESERVE DOWNTOWN? OF COURSE, A STRONG DESIRE TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN OLD TOWN AND TO ADDRESS CONCERNS ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ENCROACHING IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ALSO SUPPORTING IMPROVING SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY AND ENSURING ACCESS ACROSS DOWNTOWN SO PEOPLE COULD COULD GET ABOUT NOT ONLY DRIVING BUT ALSO WITH WITH SIDEWALKS AND THEN CONCERNS ABOUT COMMERCIAL PARKING IN FRONT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON SOME OF OUR STREET TYPES. SO LOOKING AT THE DOWNTOWN GUIDELINES, WHAT WE HAVE IS SIX CHARACTER AREAS.

AND WE'LL WE'LL WALK THROUGH THOSE RIGHT NOW. SO YOU'LL SEE A BLUE AREA YOU CAN SEE THAT'S REPRESENTED BY THE LETTER C JUST FOR CIVIC. AND THAT REALLY ENCOMPASSES THE INSTITUTIONAL TYPE BUILDING, CITY HALL, OTHER TYPE OF GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENTAL TYPE OF BUSINESSES.

ALSO THE, THE PARK AS WELL. SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE OUR ON OUR ON OUR MAP HERE IN THOSE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THEN WE MOVE TO THE HISTORIC CORE. THAT'S MORE OF THAT REDDISH COLOR. THAT'S OF

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COURSE, ALL OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND OUR BUSINESSES, RETAIL RESTAURANTS, THOSE TYPE OF OFFICES. YOU COULD SEE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP. THEN WE MOVE DOWN TO DOWNTOWN TRANSITION. AND THIS IS AS WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM FROM THE CORE AREA, HOW DO WE TRANSITION TO OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS? YOU CAN SEE THOSE DIFFERENT PLACES ALONG MAIN STREET AND ALSO ALONG EIGHTH, WHERE WE'RE TRANSITIONING INTO A MORE RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT STILL PRIMARILY BUSINESS, THEN MOVING INTO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GROWTH. THAT IS THAT PURPLE AREA THAT YOU SEE ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE MAP. WHEN WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT, WELL, WHERE COULD WE HAVE AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GROWTH AND MORE GROWTH? AND THAT WAS THE AREA AS IDENTIFIED ON THE EAST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN. AND SO FOUNDERS ROW, THOSE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS BEING SEEN AS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PURPLE AREA REPRESENTS. THEN WE MOVE TO OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S MOSTLY ALONG MAIN AND THEN SOME DOWN DOWN FIFTH STREET AS WELL. AND THAT'S REALLY FOCUSING ON PRESERVING THAT AREA FOR, FOR IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW, RESIDENTIAL, BUT ALSO IT'S REALLY THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. SO IF THERE'S A CPA OR A DENTIST, SOME TYPE OF LICENSED PROFESSIONAL THAT WOULD BE PROVIDING SERVICES AS YOU CAN SORT OF SEE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE OLDER HOMES HAVE TRANSITIONED TO THOSE OVER TIME. SO THAT'S WHAT THE ORANGE IS REALLY REPRESENTING. THOSE SORT OF THOSE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES RIGHT THERE ALONG MAIN STREET AND ALONG FIFTH. AND IT ROUGHLY GOES ABOUT OR IT GOES A REALLY THE LOTS OF ADJACENT TO FIFTH AND TO MAIN. THEN ON OUR NEXT ONE, WE HAVE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE MAP AND THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT IS WE HAVE OUR ALIGNS WITH SOME OF THE ORIGINAL TOWNSHIP EXISTING BUSINESSES LEGALLY OPERATING EXPECTED TO CONTINUE IF WE HAVE BUSINESSES IN THERE. BUT HOWEVER, NEW COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS NOT BEING APPROPRIATE IN OUR YELLOW AREA THAT WE HAVE ON THE MAP, WHEN WE WALK INTO THE. OKAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONTEXT SENSITIVE. SO WE LOOK AT OUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS SORT OF THE APPROPRIATE AND THE VISION AND HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT THAT? WE TALK ABOUT LAND USES. SO WE GO THROUGH OUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WHERE WE CAN SEE LIKE IN OUR CIVIC, OF COURSE, THAT'S OUR GOVERNMENTAL TYPE USES HISTORIC CAUSE MORE OF OUR COMMERCIAL WHEN WE GET TO THAT DOWNTOWN TRANSITION, JUST LIKE I WAS MENTIONING, IT'S COMMERCIAL WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL AS WELL, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GROWTH, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IS WHEN WE'RE HAVING PROFESSIONAL OFFICES AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL COULD BE THERE AS WELL. BUT THEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT YELLOW AREA, STRICTLY HAVING JUST THE RESIDENTIAL IN THOSE AREAS, TALK ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION AND THINGS, JUST REALLY TO HIGHLIGHT FROM THAT IS IN OUR OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL, JUST REALLY LIMITING THAT TO WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING DURING A, IN A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SETTING.

SO IF YOU GO INTO YOUR DENTIST OR YOU'RE GOING TO YOUR CPA, TYPICALLY VISITING THOSE PLACES, THOSE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, 8 A.M. AND CLOSING IN THE EVENING, NOT OPEN LATE AT NIGHT PARKING, HOW WE ADDRESS PARKING, OF COURSE, IN OUR DIFFERENT LIKE WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT ON STREET AND ON SITE PARKING. SO PARKING ON THE PROPERTY, YOU'D HAVE A PARKING LOT. YOU'D SEE THAT IN MOST OF MOST OF THOSE KEY AREAS. BUT ONCE AGAIN, WHEN WE GET TO THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS JUST OUR TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON THE STREET, NOT HAVING THAT ON SITE PARKING. WHEN WE GET TO BUILDING FORMS, IT'S TYPICALLY MIMICKING WHAT WE HAVE IN THE AREAS RIGHT NOW, WHETHER IT'S HISTORIC OR COMMERCIAL FORM, LANDSCAPING. THERE WOULD BE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN THESE AREAS TYPICALLY FOR OUR BUSINESSES. WHEN WE GET TO OLD TOWN, JUST OUR NORMAL RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WE'D HAVE THERE. SCREENING TYPE FEATURES. YES, SCREENING FOR ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUSINESSES. SO IF WE HAVE DUMPSTER SCREENING, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE NEED TO TO SCREEN ADDRESSING THAT, THEN WHEN WE GET TO OUTDOOR LIGHTING, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE, IF BUSINESSES WILL HAVE FULLY SHIELDED LIGHTING. SO TRYING TO PREVENT THE GLARE THAT WE'D HAVE ACROSS PROPERTY LINES, REALLY FOCUSING ON, ON THOSE ELEMENTS TO REALLY MAKE THOSE THINGS COMPATIBLE. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT STREET DESIGNATION AS FAR AS WE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT STREET TYPOLOGIES THAT WE HAVE HERE. OF COURSE, MAIN BEING BEING OUR LARGEST, LARGEST TRAFFIC COLLECTOR THERE, CENTRAL CORE STREET, YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THOSE DASHES RIGHT WHERE WEIGHT, NORTH EIGHTH STREET, AND THEN OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE STREETS, WHICH WOULD JUST BE LIKE OUR REGULAR STREETS. HOW DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALKS, THE DIFFERENT SIZES, WHETHER THEY'RE 6 OR 8 FOOT SIDEWALKS ADJACENT TO THESE ROADWAYS, WHAT TYPE OF AMENITIES DO WE HAVE? WHETHER WE HAVING STREET FURNITURE, WHETHER THERE'S BENCHES OR THINGS LIKE THAT ALONG THESE STREETS, WHETHER WE

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HAVE DECORATIVE LIGHT POSTS AND, AND BANNERS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT'S IDENTIFIED ON THERE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON STREET PARKING, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S PROHIBITED OR WHETHER WE HAVE ANGLED PARKING, WE ADDRESS THAT LANDSCAPING AS WELL, HOW THAT'S TREATED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEN LIGHTING AS WELL. HOW ARE WE LIGHTING THE STREETS IN THESE, THESE DIFFERENT AREAS? AND SO ONCE AGAIN, TRYING TO CONTROL THAT LIGHTING, ONCE AGAIN, WE WANT TO AVOID THE GLARE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S REALLY A SUMMARY OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE THERE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS FROM OUR DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW IF BOBBY AND STEPHEN. BOBBY. YEAH. EITHER ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN WANT TO COME FORWARD AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TALK ABOUT THE FINDING THAT THE COMMITTEE ITSELF HAD. AND AGAIN, NOT REPRESENTING YOUR OWN FEELINGS, BUT REPRESENTING WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE DESIRE OF THE COMMITTEE WAS. YOU CAN CERTAINLY SHARE YOUR OWN FEELINGS LATER. SURE. STEPHEN. OTTAWA, A RESIDENT OF MIDLOTHIAN, 5650 MONTGOMERY ROAD, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK WE HAD A REALLY GOOD COMMITTEE. I THINK WE ALL CAME TOGETHER. I THINK FREESE AND NICHOLS DID A WONDERFUL JOB. WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS THROUGH THE CITY, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE. YEAH. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE STEERING COMMITTEE LEADERS? YEAH. CHRIS, COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? I CAN TOP OF MY HEAD REMEMBER THAT ONE. THE QUESTION WAS HOW THE STEERING COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP. SO I'M KIND OF KIND OF DO THIS OFF.

REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS ONE THIRD THOSE THAT LIVED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT WAS AFFECTED.

A THIRD THAT WAS BUSINESS OWNERS DOWNTOWN, AND THEN A THIRD THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF BOTH DISTRICTS OR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, STEPHEN, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE WAS TO APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT. YES.

OKAY. BOBBY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? THANK YOU. STEPHEN, I'M ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF OLD TOWN, SO I REPRESENT ONE THIRD OF THAT. AND YEAH, I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. WE MADE A LOT OF WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING IT, TAKING A LOT OF INPUT FROM CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND MADE A LOT OF REVISIONS ALONG THE WAY. ONE THING I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN STATED OR IF YOU ALL KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A STRICT ZONING RESTRICTION. IT'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE. YOU KNOW, RESTRICTION ON COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A GUIDELINE. AND ANYTHING CAN BE STILL CONSIDERED THE SAME AS IT IS TODAY. IF I WANT TO SELL MY HOUSE TO A DENTIST, THEN WE'LL BRING IT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND DISCUSS IT. AND JUST THE SAME AS WE DO AS BEFORE, THIS JUST KIND OF IS A ROADMAP FOR THE DOWNTOWN CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES TO COEXIST TOGETHER IN HARMONY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN, AND I RECOMMEND THAT WE AGREE TO PASS IT. THANK YOU. BOBBY IS THERE. THE CHAIR FROM THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD HAPPEN TO BE HERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION OR, CLYDE, DO YOU MIND JUST GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED? YEAH, WE WENT THROUGH THE SAME PRESENTATION APPROXIMATELY 2 TO 3 WEEKS AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER. THEY HAD CONCERNS, AND I THINK THEIR CONCERNS WERE THAT IT KIND OF LOCKED US IN A LITTLE BIT TO THESE USES AND TO THIS, THE MAP. THEY DID VOTE TO DENY IT UNANIMOUSLY, AND I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WAS THERE AT THAT MEETING. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SYNOPSIS OF THAT. OKAY. SO COUNCIL, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT OR THE, THE AGENDA ITEM THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THEN A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING TO DENY. BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE OUR OUR SPEAKERS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND SO I'M GOING TO START OR I'M GOING TO HAVE TAMMY CALL OFF SOME PEOPLE AND INVITE THEM TO COME FORWARD. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND REMIND YOU THAT YOU'RE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. AND THAT'S NOT ME BEING RUDE AND CUTTING YOU OFF. IT'S JUST MAKING SURE IT'S AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYONE. AND SO I AM GOING TO HOLD PRETTY TIGHT TO THE THREE MINUTES. THIS EVENING. I WOULD ASK YOU TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS OR YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL ITSELF, AS WE'RE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO, NOT FELLOW RESIDENTS THAT MAY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH YOU. THEY'RE OBSERVING THIS EVENING. AND SO IF YOU COULD DO THOSE TWO THINGS, IT WOULD HELP ME OUT TREMENDOUSLY. BEFORE WE GET TO OUR FIRST SPEAKER, I WANT TO BRIEFLY MAKE MENTION OF THERE WERE 18 NON SPEAKERS THAT SIGNED UP THIS EVENING THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. AND THERE ARE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT. 18 IN SUPPORT NON

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SPEAKERS. AND THEN TWO NON SPEAKERS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA ITEM THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. ADDITIONALLY THE LAST THING I'LL SAY AND I'LL STOP TALKING AFTER THAT IS THERE WAS A PETITION THAT CIRCLED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THERE ARE 196 SIGNATURES OF MIDLOTHIAN RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN SUPPORT THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MENTION THAT FOR THE RECORD, MISS TAMMY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS TONIGHT? ASHLEY DAVIS MISS DAVIS, IF YOU'D COME FORWARD AND THEN CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. ASHLEY DAVIS AND I LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT AND WHAT IT'S NOT ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY IS WILLING TO LISTEN WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COME FORWARD AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, THIS IS NOT ANTI-GROWTH, ANTI-BUSINESS OR ANTI COMMUNITY PROPERTY RIGHTS.

THIS OPPOSITION WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT THIS OVERLAY IS TOO RESTRICTIVE, THAT IT LIMITS PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT IT COULD HURT DEVELOPMENT, THAT RESIDENTS ARE STANDING IN THE WAY OF PROGRESS. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ASK A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION. PROGRESS FROM WHOM? PROGRESS SHOULD MEAN THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE EXPECTED TO SIMPLY ACCEPT WHATEVER HAPPENS AROUND THEM, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THOSE WHO HAVE PUBLICLY OPPOSED THIS PROPOSAL AREN'T SIMPLY NEUTRAL OBSERVERS. SOME HAVE PROPERTY INTERESTS OR OTHER PERSONAL STAKES IN WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN THIS AREA. THAT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE WHAT THEIR THAT THEIR OPINION IS WRONG. IT DOES MEAN WE SHOULDN'T IGNORE THE CONTEXT, JUST AS WE SHOULDN'T IGNORE THE CONTEXT OF THE RESIDENTS PERSPECTIVES. THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THESE DECISIONS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS. THEY HAVE SHOWED UP. THEY HAVE ATTENDED MEETINGS. THEY HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS AND EDUCATED THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE REPEATEDLY TOLD THE CITY WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE SPOKEN.

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER ANYONE IS ACTUALLY LISTENING. IF YOU REJECT THIS OVERLAY AFTER THE RESIDENTS HAVE MADE THEIR POSITION THIS CLEAR, WHAT MESSAGE DOES THAT SEND? IT SAYS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION MATTERS UNTIL THE PUBLIC SAYS SOMETHING LEADERS DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR.

IT SAYS RESIDENTS ARE WELCOMED AT THE TABLE, BUT THEIR VOICES DON'T MEANINGFULLY INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME. THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT I BELIEVE MIDLOTHIAN WANTS TO BE KNOWN FOR, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL WANT EITHER.

YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THIS COMMUNITY, NOT SIMPLY THE PEOPLE WITH THE LOUDEST VOICES, THE BIGGEST INVESTMENTS OR THE MOST INFLUENCE. PROTECTING A NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT STANDING IN THE WAY OF PROGRESS. SOMETIMES PROTECTING WHAT MAKES A COMMUNITY WORTH LIVING IN IS PROGRESS. SO PLEASE LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OLD TOWN. PLEASE CONSIDER THE LONG TERM CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT SIMPLY THE SHORT TERM OPPORTUNITY OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR OWN CITY TO BE HEARD. WE HAVE SPOKEN. NOW WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LISTEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MISS DAVIS. MELISSA PEGRAM, MELISSA, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL. HELLO AGAIN. I'M MELISSA PEGRAM, I OWN THE PROPERTY AND RESIDE AT 802 WEST MAIN STREET ALONG THE PROFESSIONAL AREA THAT IS SHOWN ON THIS THESE GUIDELINES. FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY WITHIN MY THREE MINUTES, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR AUTHORIZING THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT HAS GIVEN THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE HERE A VOICE AND A FEELING THAT THEY ARE, THAT THEIR INPUT IS SOLICITED AND VALUED. AND SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT THAT REALLY HAS DONE A LOT FOR THE THE MORALE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE OLD TOWN AREA. I'M A MEMBER OR WAS A MEMBER OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS CHOSEN. AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ADVOCATE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE THESE GUIDELINES. WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON FOR THREE MINUTES IS THAT THE RESIDENTS REALLY DID ENTHUSIASTICALLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS. THERE WAS A LOT OF BOISTEROUS, IF YOU WILL, COMMENTS, TALK INTERACTION AT EACH ONE OF THESE. AT EACH ONE OF THESE MEETINGS. THESE PEOPLE SPOKE UP BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY

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LIVE HERE AND HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT THIS WHAT THIS IS GOING TO PREDICT FOR THE FUTURE. SO THEY'RE INVESTED IN IT. AND. THEY CAME THEY TALKED DIRECTLY TO THE CONSULTANTS, TO THE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, TO THE CITY STAFF THAT WAS THERE. THEY WERE VERY OPEN AND VERY LOUD. AND SO I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF JUST HOW ENGAGED THAT THE CITIZENS WERE IN THIS PROCESS. IN ADDITION. THERE WERE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS HERE WHO ACTUALLY WALKED THE STREETS OF OLD TOWN AND TALKED TO INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS IN OLD TOWN, PICKING THEIR BRAIN. WHAT IS THEIR OPINION? WHAT DO THEY WANT? AND THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE. OF THE 196 SIGNATURES OF THE OF THE PETITION. AND THAT'S THE CONTEXT FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONTEXT OF WHAT? WHY I FILED THOSE. IT WAS SUGGESTED AT THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD OF THE WORKSHOP THAT, HEY, IF YOU OPPOSE THIS, YOU NEED TO TALK TO THE CITIZENS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. WE WALKED THE STREETS AND TALKED TO THE CITIZENS IN OLD TOWN. AND THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER CITIZENS WHO DON'T LIVE IN OLD TOWN, WHO ARE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS OVERLAY AS WELL. IF YOU COULD WRAP YOUR THOUGHTS UP, SIR, IF YOU COULD WRAP YOUR THOUGHTS UP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO SAY ONE FINAL THING THAT REALLY HAS BOTHERED ME, AND THAT IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY INAPPROPRIATE AND INACCURATE STATEMENTS AND COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA MADE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ADVOCATING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THESE GUIDELINES. AND AND I WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD TONIGHT THAT THE EXERCISE BY THESE PEOPLE OF THEIR RIGHT TO SPEAK UP ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEIR PROPERTY AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT TYRANNY, IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO SAY IT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I SAID THAT FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ARE REALLY, REALLY INACCURATE AND IMPROPER.

YES, MA'AM. I URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS GUIDELINE, THESE GUIDELINES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THAT'S BRANT MORRIS. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS BRANT MORRIS AND I LIVE IN OLD TOWN IN THE YELLOW ZONE NEXT TO THE ORANGE ZONE.

THE ZONES ARE KIND OF THE KEY THING HERE. I, I REALIZE WHERE MY PROPERTY IS. I AM BASICALLY SURROUNDED BY COLLOQUIALLY REFERRED TO AS CIVIC PROPERTIES. ONE OF THOSE CIVIC PROPERTIES IS OPERATED AS A BUSINESS. LOTS OF TRAFFIC, TONS OF TRAFFIC. IF I DECIDED TO SELL MY HOUSE, IF THIS POLICY GOES INTO EFFECT, IT WOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BUYERS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN MY HOUSE. RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE INTERESTED IN LIVING THERE WOULD LOOK AT THE ALL THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING AND SAY, WELL, MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO LIVE THERE. SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO TURN A COMMERCIAL WOULD LOOK AT, WELL, I'VE GOT TO JUMP THROUGH EXTRA HOOPS NOW. IT'S NOT ZERO TOLERANCE, BUT IT IS ZERO TOLERANCE IN PRINCIPLE WRITTEN DOWN. SO BASICALLY, I'M KIND OF TRAPPED IN AN AREA THAT THE ONE OF THE USES OF MY PROPERTY WOULD BE COMMERCIAL, BUT THAT'S NO LONGER GOING TO BE VIABLE IF THIS PASSES. SOMETHING. I ALSO REALIZED I, I DIDN'T ATTEND THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, BUT I DID WATCH THE VIDEO AND LIKE WHAT SAID THEY WERE OPPOSED TO THIS MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO, TOO FAR AWAY FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE MYSELF IS, RATHER THAN THE ZERO TOLERANCE OF WHAT CAN BE COMMERCIAL, WHAT CAN BE RESIDENTIAL IS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO COMMERCIAL, THERE ARE EXTRA STEPS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY THE POLICY OF MODIFYING THE SUPS HERE. I BELIEVE A LOT OF THE ANIMOSITY THAT HAPPENED FROM THE SCOOPS ISSUES WAS CAUSED BECAUSE THEY APPLIED FOR A MODIFYING THE MODIFIED SUP, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING CITY STAFF CAN

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DECIDE WHETHER AN SUP MODIFICATION WARRANTS BRINGING IT TO THE COUNCIL, AND ALSO GETTING THE APPROVAL OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. OR IF THEY SAY IT'S JUST A MINOR THING, THEY CAN PUSH IT ON THROUGH. THEY PUSH THROUGH ONE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORS WERE NOTIFIED OF. THAT'S U P AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSED A LOT OF THE ANIMOSITY WITH SCOOPS IS THAT GOT. SO IF ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD TAKE.

THAT'S U P MODIFICATION OUT OF THE HANDS OF CITY STAFF AND SAY EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH COUNCIL AND MUST BE APPROVED BY THE NEIGHBORS. I ALSO WANT TO REAL QUICKLY. I GOT JUST A FEW SECONDS LEFT, JUST. I NOTED ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE AT THE P, Z, P, AND Z, SAME TWO INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT SPOKE ON THE COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE COMMITTEE EITHER HAS A RESIDENCE IN THE ORANGE ZONE, SO THEIR PROPERTY IS STILL VALID OR ALREADY HAS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, WHICH IN MY OPINION, IF YOU LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL, BUT I DO KNOW MARKET HOW MARKETS WORK. AND IF YOU LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR COMMERCIAL THOSE THAT HAVE IT, IT'S GOING TO GO UP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MR. MORRIS. THANK YOU. TED HOWARD. MR. HOWARD, IF YOU COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY AND WHICH WE KNOW YOU DO, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT. I'M GOING TO ECHO REAL QUICK WHAT MELISSA SAID. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. WE'VE NOT HAD THAT BEFORE UNTIL WE'VE COME ON THIS PROJECT AND A LOT OF GOOD, POSITIVE THINGS HAPPENING. I WAS AFRAID THAT THE YELLOW WAS GOING TO DISAPPEAR OR AT LEAST CHANGE COLOR, AND IT HASN'T.

FOR THE CONSULTANT. WE'RE STILL YELLOW AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. I CAME, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY TIMES BEFORE. THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO OBJECTIVES THAT I SEE AT PLAY HERE. ONE FROM THE OLD TOWN PEOPLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT. THAT'S NUMBER ONE IN OUR BOOK. THE OTHER OBJECTIVE IS TO ALLOW CHANGE THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE VALUE OF LIFESTYLE AND PROPERTY WITHIN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT. THERE'S A LOT OF MEANING IN THAT, BUT THERE ARE TWO BASIC OBJECTIVES AT PLAY HERE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US AGREE TO DISAGREE AND MOVE TOGETHER, COEXIST. LET'S BE A COMMUNITY. WE CAN HAVE HISTORICAL. THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION THAT MIDLOTHIAN HAS. WE ARE UNIQUE IN THE OLD TOWN. WE'RE THE ONLY ONE. THERE'S NO MORE OLD TOWN MIDLOTHIAN THAT REPRESENTS OUR HERITAGE AND. AND I WOULD FIGHT FOR THAT. SO ANOTHER POINT. THE MAIN POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS YOU'VE GOT MIDLOTHIAN ADVISORY HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD. MELISSA PEGRAM IS AN ASSET TO THIS CITY AND TO THOSE OF US THAT ARE TRYING TO DEFEND THE HISTORICAL INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, Y'ALL NEED TO USE HER. AND I'M SAYING THIS OUT OF SOME EXPERIENCE, BUT SHE IS AN ADVISOR. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU SEEK HER ADVICE. REALLY KNOWING MELISSA AS I KNOW HER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEEK HER ADVICE. SHE IS VERY WILLING TO GIVE YOU HER ADVICE AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM IT. THOSE THAT ARE NOT ON CITY STAFF AND ON CITY COUNCIL.

WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE MELISSA. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT TO WHERE WE COULD GO AS A GROUP TO HER AND LET HER COME TO Y'ALL WITH ADVICE. IF THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN SHE'S REALLY BEEN A BIG PLAYER FOR US, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE IS AVENUE F, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S INTEGRATED WITH THE OVERLAY, BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH AVENUE F BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. I'VE ASKED, I'VE ASKED CITY COUNCIL, I'VE ASKED CITY STAFF, GIVE US A MEETING, SHARE THE DETAIL WITH US. LET US SHARE DETAIL WITH YOU. WELL, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THOSE OF US ON AVENUE F WERE AN INVESTOR'S GROUP THAT ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS. BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT OF WAY ABUTS OUR PROPERTY. WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SAY. WE SHOULD HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT

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IT IS THAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO. PARKING IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, AND THAT'S ON THE AVENUE F SIDE. SO PLEASE GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY, AS YOU HAVE HERE WITH THE OVERALL MATRIX. THE FRAMEWORK MATRIX IS REALLY THE WORKING TOOL FOR THIS. GIVE US THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY FOR AVENUE F. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MR. HOWARD. THANK YOU. ANGELA BAILEY. WELCOME, MISS BAILEY. NO, NO NEED TO GET IN A RUSH. TAKE YOUR TIME. WELCOME IN IN.

STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE. WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY. AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MY NAME IS ANGELA BAILEY AND I LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PASSAGE OF THE AGENDA ITEM 2026 CHARACTER MAP FOR THE ORIGINAL OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AS OPPOSED TO THE DOWNTOWN CORE. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE TRUSTWORTHY? IS IT A PERSON THAT CAN BE DEPENDED ON? SOMEONE THAT IS RELIABLE, HONEST, FULL OF INTEGRITY? WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE TROUBLE TRUSTING THIS COUNCIL. INDIVIDUALLY, I THINK YOU'RE ALL GREAT PEOPLE. BUT AS A GROUP, YOU DON'T ALWAYS PROJECT TRUSTWORTHINESS. I SEE PEOPLE THAT THINK NDA'S ARE OKAY. SOME OF YOU BENEFIT PERSONALLY FROM CITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AND SOME HAVE ALLOWED NUISANCE BUSINESSES TO COME IN RIGHT NEXT TO HOUSES. WHILE SOME OF YOU DESIRE TO KEEP OT R, WHICH IS OLD RESIDENTIAL AS A RESIDENTIAL. YOU CAN'T DO IT ALONE. IF 1 OR 2 OF YOU SAY, WE WANT TO, WE KNOW YOU CAN'T DO IT ALONE. IT TAKES A MAJORITY.

SO I'M HERE WITH HOPEFULNESS AND CAUTION BECAUSE THE PNC COMMITTEE VOTED TO NOT MOVE.

THE CITY AND COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED PROPOSAL FORWARD. IN ADDITION TO THEIR NAME CALLING, STATEMENTS WERE MADE THAT IT'S ILLEGAL BACKWARD THINKING TO SHORT, LACKING, NOT COLOR CODED. RIGHT. MAKES ME ANGRY. NOT SPENDING MONEY ON AVENUE F ONLY TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MIXED USE. MIDLOTHIAN WAS BUILT AS A SMALL RURAL TOWN, WITH RESIDENTS BUILDING HOMES AROUND THE DOWNTOWN CORE GENERAL STORES, THE GIN CHURCHES, SCHOOLS AND THE RAILROAD. EACH AREA WAS DISTINCT AND DID NOT ENCROACH ON THE OTHER. FIRE AND ICE WAS A GIFT SHOP. WHEN WE MOVED HERE, DIETZ CAFE WAS THE PLACE TO EAT.

DOWNTOWN BUSINESS AREA WAS ON EIGHTH STREET AND SPREADING EAST ON BUSINESS 287. IT WAS MIXED USE, BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY YOU GOT THE IDEA THAT MIXED USE WAS PUTTING ANY KIND OF BUSINESS ANYWHERE IN THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL. IT'S NOT OKAY. WE DEAL DAILY WITH INCREASED HEAVY TRAFFIC ON STREETS AND ALLEYS, NOISE POLLUTION, LIGHT POLLUTION AND PARKING THAT ACCOMMODATES BUSINESSES AND NOT OUR OWN FAMILIES OR VISITORS. AS MR. ALTMAN STATED IN THE PNC MEETING, THIS WILL NEVER BE A CREEK BEND OR A PARK PLACE. WE PROTECT THOSE. BY VIRTUE OF PURCHASING OUR HOMES IN OTR. WE MUST EXPECT TO BE INCONVENIENCED. P AND Z DID NOT WANT THESE GUIDELINES PUT IN PLACE, AND WERE NOT HESITANT TO EXPRESS THEIR DISPLEASURE. THE FACT THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA HAS GIVEN ME HOPE. THAT YOU VALUE THE HERITAGE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS TOWN. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHOW THAT YOU CAN BE TRUSTED AND APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MISS BAILEY. JAMES DAVIS, MR. DAVIS, HAVE YOU COME FORWARD? STATE YOUR NAME TO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY. AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I'M JAMES DAVIS. I LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. WANT A COUPLE? I WANT

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TO COVER A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT PROPERTY VALUE. SO THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WE'VE HEARD AN ARGUMENT THAT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS. MAKING IT HARDER TO CONVERT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL USE DEPRIVES OWNERS OF THE POTENTIAL FOR GREATER PROPERTY VALUE, WHICH IS KIND OF ABSURD BECAUSE POTENTIAL PROPERTY VALUE AND ACTUAL PROPERTY VALUE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. ANY GIVEN PROPERTY HAS A MARKET VALUE. TODAY. A BUYER CAN BELIEVE THAT SOMEDAY IT COULD BE WORTH MORE UNDER A DIFFERENT USE, AND THAT THE POSSIBILITY MAY EVEN INFLUENCE WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY. BUT THAT REQUIRES REZONING. IT'S NOT A GIVEN, AND IT DEPENDS ON A DISCUSSION THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN PUT FORWARD, LET ALONE DECIDED ON. AND EVEN IF IT WERE POSSIBLE TO DEPRIVE SOMEONE OF SOMETHING THAT WAS IMAGINED OR A THEORETICAL VALUE THAT MIGHT MAYBE SOMEDAY SHOW UP, THE PROPOSAL DOESN'T DO THAT ANYWAY. BUYERS CAN AND WILL ALWAYS NEGOTIATE BASED ON WHAT THEY THINK SOMETHING IS WORTH. AND IF THEY WANT TO REZONE, THIS PROPOSAL CAN'T STOP THEM. SO WHAT EXACTLY IS ANYONE BEING DEPRIVED OF? BUT THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF DOESN'T HISTORICAL DOESN'T PROTECTING HISTORICAL RESIDENTIAL USE AUTOMATICALLY MAKE PROPERTY LESS VALUABLE? WELL, LIKE A LOT OF YOU, I DON'T ACCEPT ASSUMPTIONS. I WENT LOOKING FOR RESEARCH AND I FOUND SOME ONE PEER REVIEWED STUDY EXAMINED HISTORICAL PROTECTIONS IN NINE TEXAS CITIES. SEVEN OF THOSE CITIES SHOWED INCREASES IN PROPERTY VALUES WHERE THERE WAS HISTORIC PROTECTION RANGING FROM ABOUT 5 TO 20%. THE OTHER TWO SHOWED NO SIGNIFICANT STATISTICAL EFFECT, AND NOT ONE SHOWED A STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANT DECREASE. NOTABLY, GRAPEVINE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THOSE NINE CITIES, HAD ABOUT 42,000 RESIDENTS AT THE TIME. AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S ROUGHLY WHAT MIDLOTHIAN IS THIS. NOW, THEY SHOWED AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 19%. AND IN A MORE RECENT 21 2021 STUDY OF VALUES OVER 25 YEARS, RESEARCHERS FOUND A SPILLOVER EFFECT OF HIGHER VALUES FOR HOMES ADJACENT TO THE HISTORIC AREAS. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY THAT THIS IS GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY MAKE ALL THE PROPERTIES IN OLD TOWN MIDLOTHIAN MORE VALUABLE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STUDY SAYS. AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. IT DOES CHALLENGE THE ASSUMPTION THAT PROTECTING A HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AUTOMATICALLY MEANS LOWER PROPERTY VALUES. AND COMMON SENSE WILL TELL YOU WHY.

NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY HAS VALUE. PREDICTABILITY HAS VALUE. KNOWING SOMEONE, KNOWING SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN NEXT DOOR HAS VALUE, AND HISTORICAL CHARACTER HAS VALUE.

AS YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR OWN SURVEYS OVER AND OVER. THAT'S BECAUSE LAND USE DECISIONS DON'T HAPPEN IN ISOLATION. WHAT HAPPENS ON ONE PROPERTY AFFECTS THOSE AROUND IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A REZONING PROCESS PROTECTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECTING PROPERTY VALUES AREN'T COMPETING ISSUES. THERE'S GOOD EVIDENCE THAT THEY CAN GO HAND IN HAND AND COMMON SENSE SUPPORTS IT. SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROPOSAL, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. GARY NEEF, MR. NEEF, WELCOME. IF YOU COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE IN THE CITY LIMITS. AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL. YES, SIR. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US TODAY. I DO LIVE IN MIDLOTHIAN, RIGHT IN OLD TOWN.

MY NAME IS GARY NEEF. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR MIDLOTHIAN SINCE THE LATE 70S. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES. I KNOW WE STILL HAVE A LOT MORE CHANGES TO GO. I WOULD WELCOME FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS AS IT IS THAT FREEZING THE CONSULTANTS THAT YOU HAD AND YOU PAID GOOD MONEY TO, TO DO ALL THEIR EFFORTS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CITIZENS WANTED. SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE SPOKE HAVE SPOKE OUT. AND AS FAR AS PLANNING, ZONING AND WANTING TO DENY IT, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PLANNING ZONING WOULD WANT TO DENY THINGS, WHICH WE ALL KNOW.

IT'S BEEN STATED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THIS IS NOT ROCK SOLID. ANYTHING CAN CHANGE GOING FORWARD. THIS IS PURELY A GUIDELINE, BUT IT IS. IT IS NICE TO HAVE A GUIDELINE WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS, MULTIPLE YEARS. I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG I'M GOING TO BE HERE ON THIS EARTH. SO, YOU KNOW, WILL IT BE IN MY LIFETIME? I'M NOT SURE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A GUIDELINE OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD IN MIDLOTHIAN AS A WHOLE. THIS TOWN IS GROWING. IT'S GROWN IN LEAPS AND BOUNDS. YES. WHEN I

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MOVED OUT HERE, IT WAS DTS DAIRY QUEEN AND THE HARDWARE STORE. THAT WAS ABOUT IT. AND ONE BLINKING LIGHT. IT HAS GOT HUGE AND WE'RE GOING TO GROW. UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. I LIVE IN AN OLD HOUSE BUILT IN 1915. A LOT OF THESE FOLKS LIVE IN HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN THAT. IT'S A CHALLENGE TO KEEP UPDATING AND GOING FORWARD AND MOVING FORWARD WITH YOUR, YOUR LIFE AND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND UPDATING THINGS. OUR ROAD SYSTEM THAT HAS JUST BEEN FINISHED OFF, THANK GOODNESS.

AND I WILL APPROVE THE STREET DEPARTMENT. AS FAR AS GETTING THIS DONE. THE DUST WAS HORRIFIC, BUT IT IS DONE AND IT'S I'M VERY PROUD OF IT. AND I WANT TO BE PROUD OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, NOT AS SOMETHING THAT IS TRYING TO JUST BLOSSOM UP AND BLOOM AND MAKE EVERYTHING A, A COMMERCIAL INTEREST, THAT EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT IS NOTHING BUT, OH, LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN MAKE HERE AND MOVE ON IN FIVE YEARS. THIS IS WHERE I PLAN TO BE UNTIL THE DAY I'M NOT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU GUYS WOULD APPROVE THIS. I KNOW WE DID THINK FREEZING DID A GOOD JOB. I KNOW Y'ALL DID. Y'ALL HAVE HAD THEM ON STAFF NOW FOR PROBABLY A YEAR. SO I KNOW IT'S MONEY WELL SPENT. THESE GUYS COME BACK WITH A GOOD PROPOSAL AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT. AS A COUNCIL, YOU GUYS SHOULD ADHERE TO WHAT THEY ARE SUGGESTING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. SIR MIKE ROGERS, MIKE, WELCOME. IT'S ODD SEEING YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MICROPHONE. IT'S A THREE MINUTE LIMIT. MISTER ROGERS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY BEFORE MY TIME STARTS. AND IT'LL ONLY TAKE ABOUT 15 MINUTES THAT ALL Y'ALL LOOK THE SAME FROM THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS ALSO. AND, CASEY, YOU DO LOOK GOOD IN PLACE TO SEE. YOU NEED TO RAISE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU LOOK GOOD. YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, I'M MIKE ROGERS. I LIVE AT 107 NORTH FIFTH STREET IN THE OLD TOWN. LIVED THERE FOR 31 BEAUTIFUL, LOVELY YEARS. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN MIDLOTHIAN FOR 44 YEARS NOW, AND MUCH OF WHAT I'VE HEARD MENTIONED TONIGHT BRINGS BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES, AND I WANT TO SPEND A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME DISCUSSING OLD TOWN. THE HISTORY OF THAT. SOME CITIZEN ACTIVITY RECENTLY, THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED, THE COMP PLAN AND HOPEFULLY MAKE IT BACK AND SOME CLOSING. AFTER BEING AN OLD TOWN RESIDENT FOR 31 YEARS AND MOVING HERE, OF COURSE, JUST ONE HOUSE OFF OF MAIN STREET. I MUST ADMIT, I NEVER DREAMED MY HOME COULD EVER BECOME COMMERCIAL, EVER. I KNEW THAT COMMERCIAL LOTS WERE ALONG MAIN. I DIDN'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE HOUSES, AND AS FOR AS LONG AS I COULD REMEMBER, THEY WERE HOUSES. UNTIL RECENTLY THAT WAS CHANGED, I BELIEVE IN THE MAYBE THE 80S OR EARLY 90S, AND THAT HAS MOVED INTO, OF COURSE, RUNNING DOWN 663, AS I CALL IT, SOUTH NINTH, AND ALSO MOVING DOWN THE SPUR FOR A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES. AS YOU WILL KNOW, THROUGH COUNCIL'S WISDOM AND THROUGH THE ENGAGEMENT OF OUR CITIZENRY WHO HAVE BEEN ASKING, AS FAR AS I KNOW, FOR AT LEAST 40 YEARS, FOR SOME SORT OF OVERLAY OR PROTECTION MECHANISM, NOT NECESSARILY PROTECTION, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROTECTION TODAY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GUIDANCE. AND THROUGH THAT, THE CITIZENS GAINED 196 SIGNATURES IN A PETITION, WHICH I MIGHT ALSO MENTION WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TONIGHT, WAS PRODUCED AMONGST THE CITIZENS, BUT IT WAS PRODUCED ONLY AMONGST OLD TOWN IS WHERE THEY GOT THOSE 196 SIGNATURES, WHICH IS ALSO QUITE INTERESTING WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WHAT THOSE 196 SIGNATURES REPRESENT, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY, IS 40 TO 50% OF THE OLD TOWN AREA ONLY, WHICH KIND OF PRODUCES AN ODD SUPERMAJORITY SIGNATURE WITHIN ITSELF, PRODUCING AMONGST THE APPROVAL OF THIS OVERLAY. I WOULD JUST MENTION IN THE COMP PLAN, I BELIEVE THAT THIS COMP PLAN AND THE ORIGINAL DRAWING AND SUBSET WERE PRODUCED MOST LIKELY BACK DURING THE COVID ERA, WHICH GAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO A BUNCH OF ELDERLY WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO BE THERE, DIDN'T THINK TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN ENDS AT

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CENTER OF THE FIFTH STREET, AND THEREFORE A LOT OF THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTS LOOK AT THIS AS SOMEWHAT INTRUSION INTO WHERE THEY LIVE. I WOULD ONLY CONCLUDE THAT WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO GATHER TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, TO TRY TO GIVE WITH THE OLD TOWN CAN'T HAVE AT THIS POINT SINCE IT IS THE ORIGINAL RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THIS TOWN, IT OFFERS THE OLD TOWNERS AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S NOT A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I WANT TO READ DOWNTOWN AREA MAP AND DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. THIS IS A MICRO LOOK WITHIN THE COMP PLAN OF WHAT MIGHT BEST FIT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND I WOULD LEAVE WITH ONLY MENTIONING ONE MORE, ONE MORE THING THAT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CABIN AND WE REALIZED THAT THE CABIN WAS SLIGHTLY OFF AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVING AT 75FT. AND I MENTIONED, COULD WE JUST LEAVE SOMETHING WHERE IT'S AT? CAN WE LEAVE SOMETHING ALONE AND NOT HAVE TO PREPLAN IT AND MOVE IT 75FT? AND WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU TODAY IS, CAN WE JUST DO OUR BEST TO PROMOTE THE OLD TOWN WHERE WE LIVED SOME FOR SO MANY YEARS AND TRY TO SAVE SOMETHING AS COMMUNITY IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN HERE WHILE CONSIDERING. AND I'LL CLOSE QUICKLY THAT THIS DOES NOT END. THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR REZONING. THEY CAN STILL LEGALLY APPLY FOR REZONING AS THE LEGISLATURE HAS SET FORTH. SO NOTHING HAS CHANGED. THANK YOU FOR THE EXTRA TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S THE FINAL ONE. OKAY.

WITH NO FURTHER PUBLIC INPUT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAMMONDS. PLEASE VOTE. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES 6 TO 0. I DO WANT TO TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO THANK THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE EVENINGS THAT THEY PUT IN, THE EFFORT THAT THEY PUT IN, AS WELL AS OUR CITY STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE ENGAGED IN NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS, WITH THIS TOPIC. AND THEN AS WELL, A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT TO SPEAK AND LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING IN THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO ENGAGE IN BEING THE CREATING THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANT TO LIVE IN AND BE A PART OF. SO THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS OF BOTH STAFF AND OF FREESE AND NICHOLS, DANIEL AND HIS TEAM. SO START WITH YOU, ROSS, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO WAYNE. GO TO WAYNE FIRST. SORRY, WAYNE. YOU'RE UP. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. ALSO THANK YOU TO THE STEERING TEAM. IT'S NOT REALLY COMMON IN MY EXPERIENCE, TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ADVISORY GROUPS THAT WE, AS A COUNCIL, ASK TO GIVE ADVICE AND BOTH OF THEM STANDING ON TWO DIFFERENT POLES. I HAVEN'T RUN INTO THAT TOO OFTEN HERE, BUT I WANT TO THANK THE STEERING TEAM FOR PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER. I ALSO WANT TO JUST ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO TO DIRECT THEM TO WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROPOSAL. DOES IT OR HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE CURRENT ASPECTS OF THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AS THEY ARE? I KNOW THIS IS A GUIDELINE. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND KNOWING THAT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME HERE ON THIS, THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GUIDELINE FOR THIS AREA, AND THAT WAS IT WAS KIND OF LIKE PREVIOUS COUNCILS THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL FIGURE IT OUT AS YOU GO. AND, AND, AND I REALLY WANTED A GUIDELINE TO BE ABLE TO SAY DECISIONS THAT COME UP AND REQUESTS THAT COME UP. BUT HOW MIGHT THIS AFFECT THE CURRENT THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE? AND I'M TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS, BUT PARTICULARLY THE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREAS WHERE COMMERCIAL IS BEING RECOMMENDED AND COMMERCIAL IN THE AREAS WHERE RESIDENTIAL IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD AFFECT ANY OF THAT? YEAH, I'LL TAKE THAT. COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD SO THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 2020. IT REALLY LAID OUT PRIORITIES FOR INVESTMENT, PUBLIC INVESTMENT, AND SOME OF THESE LARGER PROJECTS, SUCH AS CITY HALL, SUCH AS HERITAGE PLAZA, SUCH AS THE LAWSON DISTRICT. AND IT GAVE US KIND OF A ROADMAP AS TO HOW TO HOW TO BOLSTER THE THE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND THOSE THINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND IT TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE LAND USES, BUT IT WAS REALLY

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MORE OF AN INVESTMENT PLAN FOR PUBLIC INVESTMENT, HOW WE SHOULD INVEST PUBLIC MONIES.

THIS PLAN CAME ALONG AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE NUANCED, AND IT'S MORE LIKE THE COMP PLAN. AND A LOT OF IT IS REAL SIMILAR TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND IF WE COULD GET BACK TO THAT MAP. DANIEL, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THAT, I THINK THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE JUST A KIND OF A MICROCOSM, LIKE YOU SAID, OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND YOU ALL KNOW, WE CONSISTENTLY BRING DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE THE 65MIā– S OF MIDLOTHIAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN PAINTS A BROAD BRUSH, AND THERE'S NUANCES TO THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT GO INTO DIFFERENT LAND USES MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL. SOMETIMES YOU VOTE TO INCREASE THE DENSITY A LITTLE BIT, OR MAYBE IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF COMMERCIAL AND YOU VOTE TO PUT RESIDENTIAL IN THERE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THESE DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES, THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT LAND USES, OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL, THE CIVIC, THE HISTORIC CORE, THOSE THINGS. THERE ARE GUIDELINES FOR THE COUNCIL, FOR THE STAFF.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. WE'LL LOOK AT THIS WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A ZONING CHANGE, AND WE'LL RECOMMEND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO THE COUNCIL. WELL, THIS IS IN OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. YOU KNOW, THIS MAKES SENSE FOR A DENTAL OFFICE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THAT WILL KIND OF GUIDE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH IT DOES. AND AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE JUDGING THOSE GRAY AREAS THAT MAY NOT BE BLACK AND WHITE AS THEY AS THEY DO COME IN. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTIAL IS THERE? I'LL JUST LAY MY CARDS ON THE TABLE. I'M MORE OF A PROPONENT TOWARD THE STAKEHOLDERS, THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY INVESTED, THOSE THAT ARE LIVING THERE, SOME OF THEM MULTI-GENERATIONAL AND SAYING, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. 20 YEARS FROM NOW, I WON'T BE AROUND, BUT 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE A GUIDE, WHICH WE'VE NOT HAD, THAT'S PARTICULARLY TO A LOT OF THIS AREA IN MAKING SOME INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS AND SOME PERMIT REQUESTS THAT DO COME THROUGH THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO DEAL WITH A FEW TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, SOME THAT WERE ALREADY DEALT WITH LONG BEFORE I GOT HERE. AND, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT, I THINK THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD THE IDEA OF SOME KIND OF AN OVERLAY OF A DOWNTOWN OR AN OLD TOWN WAS FROM MR. ROGER. WELL, I USED TO CALL HIM MISTER ROGERS FROM MIKE. THAT THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD THAT TERM. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T LOOK AT THIS FROM A STANDPOINT OF SAYING, THIS IS A THIS IS THE SAME AS DOWNTOWN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OLD TOWN. I THINK THERE IS A DISTINCTION IN MY MIND WHERE I CAN'T DRAW THAT LINE AND BE LOOKING AT, BE LOOKING AT HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT, AND GIVING GUIDANCE TO STAFF AND GIVING GUIDANCE TO FUTURE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE HERE AT THIS TIME. SO I WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. WAYNE ROSS YEAH, SO FIRST OF ALL, YEAH, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO INVESTED TIME IN THIS AS SOMEBODY WHO'S, YOU KNOW, SERVED THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. AND NOW COUPLE OF YEARS ON CITY COUNCIL. IT TAKES A LOT OF INVESTMENT OF YOUR TIME THAT YOU COULD BE WITH KIDS OR WITH FAMILY OR HECK, JUST HAVING DINNER TO, TO INVEST BACK IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO, SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS DEFINITELY PART OF THAT PROCESS. MY CONCERN WITH THE OVERALL DYNAMIC OF THIS PLAN, AND THE DIALOG IS AT SOME POINT, I, I FEEL LIKE IT BECAME THIS.

IF YOU'RE NOT 100% IN, THEN YOU'RE 100% OUT. AND I DON'T LIVE IN A WORLD OF ABSOLUTES.

AND I THINK WHEN WE DRAW LINES LIKE THAT AND SAY, YOU MUST AGREE WITH ME 100% OR YOU'RE WRONG, THAT IT STIFLES CREATIVITY, IT STIFLES THINGS THAT CAN CREATE EVEN BETTER SOLUTIONS. LIKE WE'RE CALLING THIS DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES. AND NO OFFENSE TO YOU GUYS, BUT THERE ARE NO GUIDELINES IN HERE, RIGHT? THERE ARE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS DRAWN ON A MAP THAT SAY WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT GO IN THOSE THINGS. THERE IS NOTHING THAT GUIDES US AS HOW THESE DISPARATE AREAS SHOULD INTERFACE WITH ONE ANOTHER. HOW SHOULD THEY BE GOOD NEIGHBORS IF THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE LINE, IF THEY'RE RIGHT OVER THE LINE? IF SOMEBODY DOES COME IN WITH A FUTURE COUNCIL WHO SAYS, YEAH, WE WANT TO APPROVE THAT THING IN THE YELLOW THAT'S NOT EVEN CONTEMPLATED IN YELLOW, HOW SHOULD IT BE BUILT? HOW SHOULD IT BE DESIGNED? WHAT

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RESTRICTIONS SHOULD BE IN PLACE SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME A BAD NEIGHBOR TO THOSE RESIDENTS AROUND IT? WE CANNOT CONTROL, AND WE'RE NOT TYING THE HANDS OF ANY FUTURE DECISION MAKERS HERE. WE'RE ALSO GIVING THEM ZERO MEASURING STICKS BY WHICH TO MAKE A TOUGH DECISION IN THE FUTURE. AND I THINK THAT IS A DISSERVICE NOT ONLY IN THE PRESENT BUT IN THE TOMORROW, AS WE SEEK TO PRESERVE THAT OLD TOWN CHARM AND CHARACTER OF THIS AREA. SO WHILE I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STARTING PLACE, IT DOES NOT FEEL FULLY FLESHED OUT TO ME. I THINK IT HAS SOME MATERIAL DEFECTS IN IT, ONE OF WHICH IS IT SHOWS AVENUE F AS A CENTRAL CORE STREET ON THE WAY TO 10TH. THAT NO LONGER EXISTS WITH THE HERITAGE PLAZA PROJECT. IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A STREET ON THE MAP. IT SHOWS SPUR 73 AND FIFTH STREET, THE SAME AS FIRST AND SECOND STREET. NOW THAT SPUR 73 IS CONNECTED BACK TO MAIN THROUGH THE LOWE'S DEVELOPMENT. IT SHOULD BE BOLDED, JUST LIKE MAIN STREET AND HAVE THOSE SAME RESTRICTIONS. THIS SAYS WE CAN HAVE ON STREET PARKING ON FIFTH AND SPUR 73. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A TERRIBLE IDEA, RIGHT? THAT'S A BAD GUIDELINE. WE ARE SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'VE JUST INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BUILD A PUBLIC PARKING AREA. THAT CENTRAL CORE STREET SHOULD COME DOWN TO THAT POINT WHERE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH MEET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK, IN THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT PARKING AREA, BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE DESIGNED TO FUNNEL PEOPLE BACK INTO THE BUSINESS AREA. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS PLAN. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE CONCERNS OF THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WHAT WE IF WE APPROVE THIS NOW, AS IT SITS HERE TODAY, WE ARE NOT SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR ANYTHING BUT CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE ON THE AREAS IN WHICH TWO DIFFERENT ZONES BORDER AND HOW THEY SHOULD INTERACT, AND HOW THESE STREETS AND PEDESTRIAN AREAS SHOULD REALLY MOVE PEOPLE ABOUT THIS DOWNTOWN CORE AREA SO THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I THINK THERE IS WAYS WE CAN DO THAT. I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE QUITE THERE. I THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LAYERS THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED HERE. IF WE'RE TRULY SAYING THIS IS SIMILAR TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS A AND IT'S WELL OVER 100 PAGES, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS A MUCH SMALLER, NUANCED GEOGRAPHIC AREA IN THAT BUSINESS DISTRICT, IS NEARLY A HUNDRED PAGES. THIS GUY IS IS FIVE. RIGHT. AND SO I, I THINK IT DOESN'T DESCRIBE THE PROBLEM AND THE WAYS WHICH WE SHOULD MEASURE THAT AND SEE THAT INTERACTION IN THE FUTURE. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, THIS IS FOR STAFF INDICATES THAT BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL CONCLUDED THAT THIS WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK THAT IS CORRECT. IF IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED, I THINK IT SHOULD SAY THE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION. THERE'S ALSO NO BUILT IN CRITERIA FOR HOW OFTEN SHOULD THIS BE REVIEWED? HOW OFTEN SHOULD IT BE UPDATED? YOU KNOW, OUR COMP PLAN, OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, NEITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE SET IT AND FORGET IT THINGS, RIGHT. IT'S THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY. THIS IS THE TRAJECTORY WE'RE ON. BUT 5 TO 7 YEARS FROM NOW, WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHEN WE UPDATE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THOSE HAVE SHIFTED, RIGHT? BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRED OR NOT OCCURRED, OR WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A PARK HERE, BUT IT'S REALLY A PARK THERE. AND SO THOSE PLANS HAVE TO ADAPT AND CHANGE. SO I THINK THIS GIVES A FALSE PRESUMPTION OF WE'RE GOING TO SET IT AND WE'RE GOING TO FORGET IT, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH TO GIVE US. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS ONE LOT OVER FOR THAT WANTS TO BE RESIDENTIAL IN THE ORANGE OR ONE IN THE ORANGE? THAT OR THE YELLOW RIGHT NEXT TO ORANGE THAT WANTS TO BE NOT RESIDENTIAL. HOW SHOULD THAT OCCUR? WHAT ARE THE SAFETY RAILS? IS IT GOING TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY OUTSIDE DURING, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS HOURS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL'S SUP WAS NOT SO MUCH THE FACT THEY WERE SELLING ICE CREAM, BUT THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT WAS OCCURRING IN, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ACTIVE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THIS PLAN HAS NOTHING TO DESCRIBE HOW THOSE TWO SIDES OF THE EQUATION SHOULD INTERACT AND INTERFACE WHERE THEY MEET. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I DON'T SUPPORT THE PLAN AS IT'S WRITTEN. I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE PLAN. I WAS ONE OF THE THE PROGENITORS

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OF GETTING THIS CONVERSATION GOING AND SAID, LET'S GET SOME GOOD GUIDELINES. SO WE KNOW AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT GIVES GUIDANCE TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND TO FUTURE COUNCILS. AS WE WEIGH THESE DECISIONS, CLEAR AND SALIENT GUIDANCE TO STAFF ON HOW WE WEIGH THESE DECISIONS.

AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE PLAN IN ITS CURRENT STATE ACCOMPLISHES THAT GOAL. AND SO I THINK IT'S MAYBE TOO LATE. I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH TO TRY TO EVEN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND IT AT THE DAIS. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY THAT, BUT I WANT IT CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THAT MY OPPOSITION IS NOT OPPOSITION TO THE CONCERNS OF THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS. MY OPPOSITION IS TO THE EFFICACY OF THE TOOL THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

ROSS. ANNA. OKAY, SO I'LL ADD, I'LL ECHO SOME OF WHAT ROSS IS SAYING IN THE SENSE THAT I WAS EXPECTING MORE THAN FIVE PAGES. I HAVEN'T GONE BACK TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR WHAT WE CONTRACTED SERVICES WITH, BUT IT'S 178 PAGES FOR OUR COMP PLAN. AND SO I WAS, I JUST WAS EXPECTING A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT ON THE BONE. I ALSO HAD AT THE SAME TIME, I LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE PAID CONSULTANTS, WE HAD A COMMITTEE, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. HONESTLY, YOU GUYS SHOCKED ME.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO GO THE OTHER WAY. AND I WAS LIKE BRACING MYSELF. AND THEN EVERYBODY'S IN SUPPORT OF IT. SO ON ONE HAND, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I WOULD REALLY LOVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON P AND Z. THAT'S REALLY CONFUSING TO ME. I DIDN'T WATCH THE MEETING, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GIVE MORE INPUT ON THAT OR IF SOMEONE CAN FILL ME IN. IT JUST I'M VERY CONFUSED BY THAT. I, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY IT AS WELL, BUT AND DANIEL, YOU CAN ELABORATE AND MIRIAM, WHOEVER WAS THERE. BUT, BUT I DO THINK IT CAME DOWN TO, TO THEY THOUGHT THIS TOOK A LOOK BACK AT THE CURRENT STATE AND DIDN'T LOOK FORWARD ENOUGH, IS WHAT I HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE PNC MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THIS KIND OF. I THINK THEY HAD THE FEELING THAT THIS LOCKED US IN. IN THE FUTURE. AS FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND CHANGES THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE CHANGES BASED ON THIS, THIS, THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES. YEAH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS THAT WE ALL KNOW ARE RECOMMENDING GUIDELINES. SO BUT THAT ASIDE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. AND WE MAY WE MAY NOT EVEN GET TO ALL OF IT. IT MIGHT BE THAT WE STILL NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK. ARE WE GOING TO, AT SOME POINT TAKE THIS PLAN, THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND OUR 2024 COMP PLAN AND MAKE EVERYTHING GO TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO CONTRADICT OURSELVES IN OUR PLAN. I DON'T THINK THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS A PORTION OF THE COMP PLAN. NOW, THIS WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT IN THE COMP PLAN IF ADOPTED, BUT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS SOMEWHAT INDEPENDENT OF THAT OF THE COMP PLAN. AND, AND I JUST MIGHT ADD, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT THAT THEY HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THE GUIDELINES, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT NOT A WHOLE NEW SET OF DOCUMENTS, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL DETAIL. SO SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SHORTER DOCUMENT BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REALLY SETTING THE THE OVERALL VISION FOR THE CITY. BUT THEN WE STILL HAVE THE 2020, ALTHOUGH IT'S GETTING OLDER IN AGE, WE HAVE THE 2020 DOWNTOWN PLAN THAT PROVIDES A LOT OF CONTEXT. AND IT'S LIKE CLYDE WAS MENTIONING THINGS FOR INVESTMENT. SO, SO REALLY GOOD IDEAS THAT WE'VE SEEN COME TO, TO FRUITION. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, I THINK MOST OF THE ISSUES SORT OF CENTERED AROUND IF YOU LOOK AT HOW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD HAPPEN AS FAR AS SHOULD IT BE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, IS THERE BEING MORE COMMERCIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES? AND SO I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG, BIG ISSUES AT THE PNC. WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS THAT WE DID, REALLY FOCUSING ON KEEPING A LOT OF THE AREA LIKE, LIKE WE SORT OF SHOWED ON THE MAP FOR THE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL, KEEPING THAT STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL KEEPING MAIN, EVEN THOUGH MAIN BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST CAME OUT WITH OUR MAP, WE HAD A MUCH LARGER AREA FOR A LONG MAIN AND HOW MANY BLOCKS WE WENT BACK THAT WOULD HAVE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR NONRESIDENTIAL OFFICES, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WHEN WE HAD THAT FIRST MAP, WE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS TOO LARGE AND TOO BIG AND REALLY WANTING TO NARROW DOWN DEVELOPMENT ALONG MAIN TO REALLY BEING ADJACENT. NOW YOU COULD SORT OF LOOK AND SEE LIKE IN SORT OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD TONIGHT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THAT MAY BE NOT NECESSARILY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE THAT THAT WE TALK ABOUT, IT'S TRYING TO DESIGN A COMMUNITY THAT, THAT, THAT

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PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN AND THAT PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING COMING OUT BECAUSE AS WE LOOK AND SEE AND TRY TO RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING THAT MAP EVOLVED TO REALLY ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT THAT PEOPLE WERE, WERE SAYING. SO WHEN WE HAVE ONCE AGAIN, THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH IS AMENDMENT. SO IT'S REALLY BEING ADDED AT THE BACK OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, REALLY FOCUSING SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION AND PROVIDING CLARITY IN DOWNTOWN, STILL KEEPING EVERYTHING THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 2024 IS DOING AND PAYING RESPECT TO WHAT WAS DONE IN, IN 2020. SO, SO THAT'S REALLY WHY WE HAVE A SMALL AND NOT A DOCUMENT THAT'S ANOTHER HUNDRED PAGES TRYING TO. SO IF IF WE ADD IT AS AN ADDENDUM TO 2024, I STILL THINK IT WILL CONTRADICT ITSELF IN CERTAIN AREAS. LIKE IF IF WE'RE IF WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS TO BE DONE, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. LIKE, WELL, LIKE, NOT THAT IT'S NOT DONE WELL, BUT LIKE, WE NEED TO TIE THE BOW ON ALL OF THIS AND THERE'S GOING TO BE STUFF IN HERE. I MEAN, I'M SITTING HERE, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE LOOKING THROUGH IT THAT JUST PUTTING IT AS AN ADDENDUM, I'M PICTURING FUTURE COUNCILS. THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, UP HERE WE SAY THIS AND DOWN HERE WE SAY THIS. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ALL TIED TOGETHER AND MAYBE IT GOES PERFECTLY, BUT I'M NOT SURE. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

ROSS MENTIONED THE CORE STREETS, LIKE WE'VE INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT ON AVENUE F THAT'S NOT ON THERE. MR. HOWARD WAS TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT ON THERE. THAT'S. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TIED UP. GOING BACK TO WAYNE'S QUESTION EARLIER, IS THERE WHAT HAPPENS? AND AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS A GUIDELINE, BUT IF THIS IS PUT INTO PLACE, ANY CURRENT BUSINESSES OR RESIDENTS SAY PARKING AND LIGHTING OR WHATEVER THAT ARE IN CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WHAT HAPPENS THERE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EXISTING, EXISTING? NOTHING. IT'S JUST LIKE THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OR ZONING MAP. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE BILL, THEY'LL BE LEGAL NONCONFORMING AND THEN JUST NOT EVEN LEGAL NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE IT'S NOT A ZONING MAP. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN A COUPLE OF THE SPEAKERS, THIS IS NOT AFFECTING ANY ORDINANCES, ZONING CHANGES, SUP PROCESSES. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. I MEAN, WE WOULD BRING ALL THOSE BACK TO YOU JUST LIKE WE BROUGHT SCOOPS AND THE ORIGINAL SCOOPS AND ALL THAT STUFF WOULD COME BEFORE YOU. EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE'VE HAD. OKAY. I THINK THE OTHER ONES I CAN, I CAN, I CAN PASS ON THE OTHER ONES AND I'LL BE GOOD FOR NOW. CASEY. YEAH, A FEW QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS. I'VE HEARD IT FROM SEVERAL SPEAKERS. SO FOR EVERYONE LISTENING TONIGHT, CAN YOU CLARIFY THIS MORE GEARED TO YOU, CLYDE. WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ADOPTING THIS OVERLAY PLAN DOES IS THIS WHAT DOES IT DO AND WHAT IS IT NOT DO? WE'RE NOT CHANGING ZONING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS VERY CLEAR ON THAT. CORRECT. NO, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ZONING STAFF WILL USE THIS AS A GUIDE. WHEN WE BRING SOMETHING FOR A ZONING CHANGE, C, P OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'LL JUST USE THIS AS A GUIDE TO HELP US WITH THE ANALYSIS OF THE CASE. OKAY. AND AGAIN, SAME THING. I KNOW WE'VE MENTIONED IT, BUT I WANT TO JUST MENTION IT AGAIN. CURRENT ZONING IS IN PLACE, RIGHT? WE HAVE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS AMENDMENT, THE OVERLAY AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL GUIDANCE AND JUST GENERAL DIRECTIONS AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO EQUIP COUNCIL, ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF. HOW DO WE ENVISION ALL THOSE CORRELATING? I'M SORRY, HOW DO WE ENVISION ALL THOSE CORRELATING JUST TAKING IN ALL THAT INPUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO ON LAND USE CASES. I MEAN, WE BRING SOMETHING TO YOU IF IT'S IN THE COUNTRY MODULE, THOSE CALL FOR JUST FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT, TWO TWO ACRE LOTS.

WE'LL LOOK AT SOMETHING. SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT GROSS DENSITY. SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT TRANSITIONAL AREAS. SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. A LOT OF TIMES PLANNING STAFF WILL RECOMMEND DENIAL. BUT YOU LOOK INTO THAT AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT LIES IN RELATION TO OTHER LAND USES, ADJOINING PROPERTIES, TRANSITION AREAS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO THAT'LL JUST HELP US WITH THE ANALYSIS. IF THAT IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, IT DOES TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CONTRADICTIONS THAT WERE KIND OF BROUGHT UP, JUST, YOU KNOW, THESE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN GOING ON, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, CONSULTANTS HERE AND THEN STAFF AS WELL. HOW DO YOU FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS PLAN PUTS FORWARD A GUIDANCE THAT DOESN'T CONTRADICT EACH OTHER? WHAT IS YOUR PERSONAL OPINION ON THAT ONE? OUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION. WELL, I THINK EVEN THE COMP PLAN AND THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN CONTRADICTS ITSELF. ALL THESE THINGS CONTRADICT ITSELF, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC INVOLVED, THEY HAVE DESIRES. WE HAVE DESIRES AS COUNCIL, AS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ALL THOSE THINGS. SO THERE'S ALWAYS CONTRADICTIONS. I THINK ENGINEE.

IT'S YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS TWO A LOT OF TIMES. AND THAT'S THAT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THESE PLANS, IT'S A LOT MORE NUANCED. AND THOSE NUANCES COULD CAUSE CONTRADICTIONS AND THINGS. AND THAT'S WHY Y'ALL ULTIMATELY MAKE THESE DECISIONS. Y'ALL VOTE SEVEN. YOU KNOW, SEVEN OF Y'ALL VOTE. AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS

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A UNANIMOUS VOTE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS A CLEAR VOTE. THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTERNATION. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A VOTE. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOUR VOTES AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SO I, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. AND IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITH A YES NO OR AN EXPLANATION. BUT BUT ALL THESE, ALL THESE PLANS ARE A LITTLE BIT FUZZY AND THEY'RE NOT OR DRACONIAN OR THERE'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE LINE ON ANYTHING THAT WE BRING FORWARD TO YOU THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME. SURE. AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I CAN RECALL BACK, I THINK IT WAS LAST SEPTEMBER WHEN WE EQUIPPED THIS COMMITTEE OR THE COUNCIL KIND OF CALLED THIS COMMITTEE INTO FRUITION. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. I WAS I WAS STANDING IN THE BACK KIND OF WHERE THE OFFICERS WERE STANDING RIGHT NOW. THERE WAS NO SEATING ROOM. I HAD TO GO INTO THE OVERFLOW AREA BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE. I LOVE SEEING THAT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT. AND I REALLY I WAS SITTING THERE AND I WAS HOPING AND PRAYING THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THE RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS TO GET TOGETHER, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS, TO REALLY COME FORWARD WITH A DREAM AND A DESIGN THAT THEY COULD ALL RALLY BEHIND. AND I WOULD JUST WANT TO SAY DEFINITELY TO THE FOLKS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THAT AND SHOWED UP TO THESE WORKSHOPS IN THESE MEETINGS. THANK YOU. I DON'T WANT THIS COUNCIL TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE CHARGE AT THAT WHATEVER SEPTEMBER MEETING WAS. THAT WAS OUR DIRECTIVE TO THIS GROUP, WAS TO GO OUT, GET FEEDBACK, LOOK AT THIS DOWNTOWN. THEY SPENT MONTHS DOING THE STICKY NOTES, DOING ALL THE ALL THE STUFF THAT FREESE AND NICHOLS DOES RIGHT, WORKING TOGETHER TO REALLY HELP DEFINE WHAT A VIBRANT TOWN COULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THEN ALSO REALLY PROTECTING THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THIS AREA. AND SO I LOOK AT THIS FRAMEWORK, I'M PROBABLY SHOWING MY CARDS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT I THINK IT STRIKES THAT BALANCE. AND I THINK IT REALLY IT ENCOURAGES THE DOWNTOWN INVESTMENT IN THE ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

BUT THEN IT ALSO CLEARLY IDENTIFIES THOSE OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE. WHAT IS THE CHARACTER OF MIDLOTHIAN? AND I WILL SAY, I'VE MET WITH SEVERAL FOLKS THAT WERE ON THE COMMITTEE. I ASKED THEM REALLY KIND OF ONE MAJOR QUESTION. I ASKED THEM, HOW DID YOU FEEL THE PROCESS WENT, AND DID YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR VOICE WAS HEARD? AND ALL OF THEM AND I WAS I WAS MAKING SURE I WENT TO DIFFERENT GROUPS. BUT YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS A THIRD. THERE WAS A THIRD, THERE WAS A THIRD. I TRIED TO PICK GROUPS, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS FROM EACH OF THOSE. THEY WERE ALL VERY COMPLIMENTARY ON THE PROCESS.

SO I WANT TO THANK FRIESEN NICHOLS FOR NAVIGATING. I KNOW THOSE WEREN'T EASY MEETINGS.

THERE'S NOT EASY CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE. THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTIONS TIED TO THIS. THIS CASE, OBVIOUSLY JUST THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. AND SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT TOOK THE TIME THAT SPOKE TONIGHT, THAT ENGAGED THE PETITION, YOU NAME IT, ALL THE ABOVE. THAT'S FEEDBACK THAT WE ARE HEARING. AND AGAIN, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT LOSING SIGHT OF THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ZONING TONIGHT. WE'RE NOT APPROVING SPECIFIC FUTURE USES FOR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, THAT DECISIONS WILL STILL GO THROUGH THE REGULATORY PROCESS THAT WE WILL GO THROUGH AS A COUNCIL AND PA AND ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL FOCUSING ON ON WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS IN ON. SO THANK YOU CASEY. THANKS, RICHARD. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE SPEAKERS. Y'ALL DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PRESENTING YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS, AND IT WAS WELL DONE. I DO WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR BECAUSE HE WASN'T RIGID ON THE THREE MINUTES AND ALLOWED Y'ALL TO FINISH YOUR FINISH YOUR THOUGHTS, SO I MIGHT GET IN TROUBLE FOR THAT ONE. WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, I WAS A LITTLE UNCERTAIN A FEW POINTS, BUT ACTUALLY MY THOUGHTS START TO CRYSTALLIZE AS Y'ALL TALKED. I LIKE THE WORD GUIDELINES. SO ONCE AGAIN, I'M. I SEEM TO BE ON A DIFFERENT DRUM BEAT. THE REASON I LIKE IT IS BECAUSE TO ME IT'S FORWARD LOOKING. IT IMPLIES THAT THERE ARE CHANGES AND THERE ARE CHOICES IN FRONT OF US THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE. THIS IS NOT A PAINT BY THE NUMBERS. THIS IS NOT A COOKBOOK. THIS IS NOT A FRAME THAT YOU CAN PUT IN PLACE AND SAY, DO THIS, AND YOU TOO WILL HAVE THE CITY THAT YOU WANT IN THE FUTURE. BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT TELLS US WHAT WE'RE AIMING AT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHY WE'RE AIMING AT THAT. IF YOU GO BACK TO 2020, WHAT WAS SAID IN THE MASTER PLAN WAS THAT THE DOWNTOWN AND AT THAT POINT, I MEANT EVERYTHING THAT'S THAT'S ON THIS MAP, THAT EVERYTHING ON HERE WAS TO BE THE HEART AND SOUL OF MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GROWTH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT SOMEWHERE AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE IN THE VERY CENTER OF THE CITY IS WHAT ONCE WAS. AND THERE'S SOMETHING HERE THAT'S VERY GOOD, AND WE WANT TO HOLD ON TO IT AS BEST WE CAN. AND YES, CHANGE IS COMING. A FEW YEARS AGO, OUR BYLINE WAS QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT'S WHAT WE

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WANTED. WE WERE STRIVING FOR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND AS CLYDE KEPT TELLING ME CONTINUALLY, YOU CAN'T QUANTIFY THAT. YOU CAN'T GET A BULLET POINT LIST OF WHAT QUALITY OF LIFE IS. HE ALWAYS PUSHED ME AND I APPRECIATED THAT. BUT NOW OUR QUALITY OF LIFE BYWORD HAS TURNED INTO A DESTINATION CITY. SO WHAT WE'RE STRIVING, STRIVING TO BE IS A DESTINATION CITY. AND I GO, WHAT IS THAT? YOU GOT THE SAME PROBLEM OF QUANTIFYING WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT QUALITY OF LIFE FOCUSES ON PEOPLE HERE, AND DESTINATION CITY FOCUSES ON PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE, BUT. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND I LIKE WHAT THE DOCUMENT I LIKE FOR THE NICHOLS DOCUMENT, I KIND OF LIKE THE SIZE BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT. THIS HAS GUIDELINES, GUIDELINES FOR FUTURE COUNCIL, AND THEY GET TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THERE'S NOTHING. AND WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING WITH CLYDE OF WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT'S BEING OFFERED, AND EITHER CASE, COUNCIL CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT. SO THE CHOICE IS DOWN THE ROAD. AND IN THIS GUIDELINE, WHICH I FAVOR, IT SAYS, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO BE SEEN AS. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BE. AND PART OF THAT IS RESPECT FOR WHAT WAS. SO AGAIN, I THINK EVERYBODY PARTICIPATED AND WE HAVE A GREAT CITY HERE. WE HAVE THE BEST CITY AROUND. WITH THAT, I YIELD. WELL, SAID RICHARD, THANK YOU. LET ME GO BACK TO WAYNE. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD SOMETHING COMING IN ON THIS, BUT I SAW 178 PAGE COMP PLAN. I SAW FIVE ADDITIONAL. I SAW 183 PAGE COMP PLAN. AND THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT AS HAVING AN ADDENDUM TO IT, BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME, A LITTLE MORE NUANCE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SPECIFIC TYPE OF AREA. AND THERE HAVE BEEN, THERE HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE COME TO US THAT HAVE BEEN IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE TWO ACRE LOTS, AND WE'VE APPROVED ONE ACRE LOTS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS COUNCIL OR WITH FUTURE COUNCILS, WHEN NONE OF US ARE SITTING IN THESE CHAIRS. AND THAT WAS THE WAY THAT I LOOKED AT THIS COMING IN. THIS WAS AN ADDITION TO THE CONVERSATION, NOT A DRAWING THE LINE. AND I DID NOT EXPECT, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 150 PAGE SPECIFIED OUT FOR ME BECAUSE I THINK THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT, WHETHER IT BE THIS ONE OR FUTURE COUNCILS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE AS THESE REQUESTS COME IN, THESE PERMITS ARE BROUGHT BEFORE US. THOSE NUANCES ARE GOING TO BE DEFINED AS IS THE CASE. I WOULD DARE SAY ALSO THAT THERE'S SOME OF THE GUIDANCE THAT THE STAFF HAS, THAT COUNCILS HAVE GIVEN TO THEM, THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A FEW JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, 50 PAGES. NOW THAT THEY HAVE 200 PAGES TO START FINDING THE NUANCE AND ALL OF THAT. AND, AND I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A VALUE TO US AS A CITY FOR HOW DO WE BUILD THE QUALITY OF LIFE, HAVE DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS GREAT COMMUNITY AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD? SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

OKAY. GOING TO GO TO ANNA. JUST KNOWING THAT WE ARE WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS A VOTE. I JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION. I HAVE I'M TOTALLY GOOD WITH THE COLORS AND WHERE EVERYTHING'S AT. I TRUST THE COMMITTEE. I THINK IT'S GREAT. I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB. I'M STILL JUST NOT. WE PAY MONEY TO HAVE THIS DONE. AND SO I I'D LIKE IT TO ALL GO TOGETHER. WE'RE USING WORDS WE DON'T LIKE. WE'VE NEVER USED THE WORD CENTRAL CORE STREETS.

SO IF WE PUT THAT AS AN ADDENDUM TO THE COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CALLING ORIGINAL TOWN VERSUS DOWNTOWN, IS THIS A SUBSECTION? IS THIS ZOOMED IN ON THIS PART? AND WE IN THIS SECTION SAY WE NEED TO GET RID OF THESE COLORS AND THEN GO LOOK AT THE ADDENDUM. I JUST WOULD LIKE IT TO BE CONNECTED. AM I ASKING TOO MUCH OR TO FLESH OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY PUT A STAMP OF APPROVAL? WELL, I AND DANIEL, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT ON THE COUNCIL OR MAYBE IN THE AUDIENCE. THIS IS MORE OF A MICROSCOPIC LOOK. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE MISSING, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR ANY OTHER ONE SECTOR. WE HAVE A

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THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, SO WE WOULD NEVER HAVE CORE STREETS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE CORE STREETS WITHIN THE COMP PLAN NECESSARILY, OR IN THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECT OF THE COMP PLAN. I COULD BE WRONG. I HAVEN'T MEMORIZED THAT. BUT SO IT IS A DIFFERENT THING, BUT IT'S MORE OF JUST A FINITE LOOK AT A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL AREA VERSUS A 65 SQUARE MILE AREA. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT, WHEN THIS COMES INTO PLAY AND THIS IS IN THE COMP PLAN, WHEN YOU START LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BASICALLY JUST GO THROUGH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND OKAY, WHAT IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL? LOOK, WE ZONE IN ON THAT COUPLE OF PAGES OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. HOW DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSITION AREAS, HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL SHOULD BE ALLOWED THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. THIS WOULD BE THE SAME. OKAY. THERE'S A SUP OR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST OR SOMETHING THAT'S COMING IN TO THIS AREA. WE WOULD OPEN UP THIS CHAPTER AND DELVE INTO IT AND GET INTO THAT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I MEAN, KIND OF I'M ALSO JUST THINKING, I MEAN, YOU FAST FORWARD FIVE YEARS AND YOU HAVE A COUNCIL TEAM THAT'S HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION ON ANOTHER VERY CONTROVERSIAL CASE. THEY CAN USE THIS AGAINST EACH OTHER IN THEIR ARGUMENTS IF IT'S NOT ALL TIED BEAUTIFULLY TOGETHER. SO LIKE, DO WE HAVE IN A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH Y'ALL TO PUT IT AS AN ADDENDUM IN THE COMP PLAN TO MAKE SURE IT ALL FLOWS, TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT ROSS BROUGHT UP TO TALK ABOUT WHY AVENUE F ISN'T THIS OR THAT.

LIKE, THERE'S JUST SOME MINOR TWEAKS HERE THAT I DON'T WANT TO BE PUT ON THE SPOT TO VOTE YES OR NO FOR THIS. IF IT'S NOT LIKE ALL BUTTONED UP, BUT IF I'M ALONE ON THAT, THAT'S FINE.

AND I'M, I JUST, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M ASKING. WELL, NO, NO, YOU'RE NOT ASKING TOO MUCH. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT THE DEFINITION OF BUTTONED UP IS. SO DOES IT HAVE TO BE TOTALLY CONGRUENT WITH THE CURRENT COMP PLAN? YEAH. I MEAN, IF WE'RE SAYING IT'S AN ADDENDUM, IT'S NOT EVEN WE'RE NOT EVEN USING THE SAME LANGUAGE. WELL, AND I MEAN, I GUESS WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT, DANIEL. AND I WOULD SAY, GO AHEAD. ONE, ONE WAY THAT THAT IT CAN BE PRACTICALLY IMPLEMENTED IS WHEN, LET'S SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT RIGHT OFF MAIN STREET OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. SO WHEN WHEN STAFF STARTS THEIR REPORT AND DOES THEIR RESEARCH TO PRESENT TOGETHER THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR, IN YOUR COUNCIL AGENDA PACKET, THEY'LL, THEY'LL LOOK AND SAY LIKE, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE OUR DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO CHECK. SO WE CAN SAY WHETHER IT'S AN OLD TOWN RESIDENTIAL OR THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, AND SO THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. BUT ALSO THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THAT THAT SPREAD THROUGHOUT. WHEN WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, A DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT THAT WOULD GO INTO THAT, THAT REPORT. BUT IN ADDITION, WE ALSO STILL HAVE THE 2020 DOWNTOWN PLAN, WHICH STILL HAS GOOD IDEAS THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. YES, THESE PLANS DO DO AGE. AND LIKE YOU'RE MENTIONING, THEY NEED TO BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS AND THINGS TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT. BUT WHEN WE START TO TAKE A LOOK AT UPDATES, WHAT, WHAT'S ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO DO AN UPDATE? BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE DON'T TAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT THAT THE CITY HAS DONE IN TIME. WE DO LIKE TO HAVE A COUPLE OF PAGES THAT SAY LIKE, HERE'S ALL THE, ALL THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS. SO IF SOMEONE'S CURIOUS TO KNOW, LIKE, HEY, WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF PLANNING? AND I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THESE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE I THINK IN ALL OF OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS, WE CAN FIND GOOD INFORMATION, PROVIDE CONTEXT, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT THIS DOCUMENT, WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOCUMENT, THE DOWNTOWN DOCUMENT IS REALLY A TOOL FOR FOR THE COUNCIL AND FOR STAFF TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. SO WE CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HERE IN 2026, WE WE WORKED WITH THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT THESE DOWNTOWN GUIDELINES. AND THIS IS REALLY FRESH INFORMATION. BACK IN 2024, WE WORKED WITH THE PUBLIC AGAIN, AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE. AND HERE'S HOW WE WE TREAT DOWNTOWN IN CONTEXT OF, OF ALL OF OUR OTHER PARTS. AND THEN BACK, YES, COVID WAS, WAS STARTING OR GOING ON. I FORGET EXACTLY WHEN IT, WHEN IT, WHEN IT WAS WORKING THROUGH THAT, THAT PROJECT. BUT, BUT BACK HERE, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS AND INVESTMENT AND THESE WERE SOME OF THE CRITICAL THINGS. SO I THINK WHAT ALL THESE DOCUMENTS WILL DO IS, IS GIVE YOU INFORMATION THAT THE STAFF WILL PUT TOGETHER IN A REPORT FOR YOU. SO YOU WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO AND TRACK DOWN EVERY SINGLE PLANNING DOCUMENT. THEY'LL PUT THAT INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET FOR YOU. AND THEN THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT YOU WILL USE TO, TO INFORM YOUR DECISION AS, AS YOU'LL USE PUBLIC INPUT WHENEVER THAT AGENDA ITEM COMES BEFORE YOU. AND SO IT'S ONE IMPORTANT ELEMENT THOUGH, BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE THREE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS FOR THE SAME DIFFERENT ONES, ALL OF THEM. ALL THREE. SO ALL THREE, ALL ARE GOING TO USE ALL THREE AND SAY THE DOWNTOWN PLAN SAYS THIS. YES, MA'AM. AND I WANT TO BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY BUTTON. THIS DOESN'T NEGATE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS. PERSONALLY, I THINK THE SCOOPS. THE SCOOPS, SCOOP ZONING CASE THAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMER, I THINK IT WORKED AS IT WAS PLANNED TO WORK. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS PUT INTO PLACE.

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THERE'S A ZONING CHANGE, THERE'S PUBLIC NOTICE. THE PUBLIC GETS TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, AND THE COUNCIL MAKES A VOTE. AND WE HAD A GOOD DOWNTOWN PLAN. WE HAD A GREAT COMP PLAN THAT DIDN'T NEGATE THE DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT EVERYBODY HAD TO MAKE. RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS. YES. ABSOLUTELY. YES. I'M NOT. YEAH, I'LL GIVE UP ON IT. I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE CONSTANTLY PAYING CONSULTANTS TO WRITE A PLAN FOR US, THAT AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD LIKE PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER. NOTED. THANK YOU ROSS. SO I'LL GO BACK TO MY CONCERN.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ENOUGH OF A GUIDELINE BECAUSE NOTHING PRECLUDES ANYBODY FROM OWNING A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE YELLOW AND COMING IN AND SAYING, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A BOOKSTORE.

I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE A BOUTIQUE THAT MAYBE IS ONLY OPEN DURING THE HOURS LISTED IN THE OLD TOWN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SECTION, YOU KNOW, AND AND NOTHING. THIS DOESN'T SAY, OH, WELL, SORRY, YOU JUST YOU CAN'T EVEN APPLY. IT'S NOT A GREAT IDEA, BUT WHAT IT WHAT IT FAILS TO DO, IN MY OPINION, IS SAY, WHEN THOSE REQUESTS COME IN, IF IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND IT'S MAKING A DONUT OF NONRESIDENTIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM, HOW SHOULD IT BEHAVE? HOW SHOULD IT INTERFACE IF YOU ARE TO APPROVE THAT? THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT CANNOT. THEY DON'T BIND FUTURE COUNCILS, BUT MORE SO THAN THAN JUST SAYING IT'S A MAP. RIGHT. AND SO TO ME, A MAP IS NOT A GUIDELINE. IT'S IT'S A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEN IT GETS GRANULAR. IT REALLY DEFINES THOSE ZONES. AND HEY, IT'S SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS MAY WANT TO HAVE A DENTIST CLOSER. WE DON'T WANT TO PACK THEM ALL IN TOWN. SO IT'S OKAY TO PUT ONE IN THAT COMP PLAN ZONE. THIS IS MORE GRANULAR OR MORE MICROSCOPIC, BUT LESS GRANULAR. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY CONCERN COMES IN IS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF, LET'S CALL IT SIXTH AND H. IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT SOUTH EASTERN. OTTER BUBBLE.

HOW SHOULD IT BEHAVE? MAYBE IT'S A GREAT IDEA. MAYBE WE'RE FOR IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS WHEN THEY ARE NOW NEXT TO A NEWLY FORMED BUSINESS. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S MY CHALLENGE IS IT'S LIKE THIS IS A ALL OR NOTHING, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE DETAILS OF THE GRAY THAT EVENTUALLY OCCURS. AND I THINK WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR MORE CONFUSION, MORE CONSTERNATION, AND MORE CONFLICT BY APPROVING THIS THE WAY IT'S DRAWN. OKAY. THANK YOU. ROSS. RICHARD. I VIEW THIS A LITTLE BIT LIKE I DO IN MY IN MY JOB, MY DAY JOB. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAJOR RELEASE OF OUR SOFTWARE PACKAGE.

AND THE QUESTION IS, DO WE KEEP TESTING OR DO WE RELEASE? WE CAN TEST FOREVER AND NOT PROVE OR CLOSE OR MAKE EVER ANSWER. AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO RELEASE AND THEN LIVE WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS BASED UPON REACTIONS OF THE MARKETPLACE.

AND, AND I VIEW THAT KIND OF LIKE HERE, WE NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT, A GENERAL OVERARCHING STATEMENT OF WHAT WE WANT TO BE WITH GUIDELINES, DO THE BEST WE CAN SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AND AS ISSUES ARISE, THEN WE NEED A MECHANISM TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT, WHETHER THAT'S FORMAL OR INFORMAL, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE PERFECT DESIGN. LET'S NOT LET THE QUEST FOR THE PERFECT DRIVE OUT THE GOOD THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. AND, AND WE'VE HAD THE RESIDENTS COME FORWARD AND SAY, THIS IS A SECTION OF THE CITY. WE WANT TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT. AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE HAVE MADE COMMENTS, BASICALLY, ARE THEY ASKING, ARE WE LISTENING? AND I WANT TO ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. YES, WE HAVE HEARD YOU, BUT GUESS WHAT? CHANGE IS GOING TO COME. WE'RE GOING TO GROW. WE'RE GOING TO BE 80, 90,000 PEOPLE DOWN THE ROAD. AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS CITY WILL LOOK LIKE THEN. ALL RIGHT. FINAL COMMENTS THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS. I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON IT. I MOVE WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADOPT DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES AND ADD DOWNTOWN CHARACTER AREA MAP.

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OKAY. I'VE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MARINO TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 1, 5 TO 1. SORRY. 5 TO 1. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. ACTUALLY I APOLOGIZE. WE'RE GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE CITIZEN TO BE HEARD THAT DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. HE FILLED OUT A FORM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY HE GOT SHUFFLED IN THE MIXTURE OF THE OF A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO ITEM 280. AND I WANT TO INVITE WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. SURE. I WANT TO, MR. MYERS, IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD, I APOLOGIZE. WE OVERLOOKED YOUR FORM EARLIER, SO WE MADE YOU SIT THROUGH ALL THAT FOR THIS MOMENT. SO. MAYOR COUNCIL, MY NAME IS MICHAEL MYERS. I LIVE AT 115 HUMMINGBIRD LANE IN OVILLA, TEXAS. I AM THE CURRENT DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR HOUSE DISTRICT TEN TO REPRESENT ELLIS COUNTY IN THE TEXAS HOUSE. I WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU. I SPOKE TO Y'ALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT MY VISION, WHAT I WANTED TO DO WITH ELLIS COUNTY. AND ONE OF THOSE ITEMS IS TO INCREASE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE CITY COUNCILS. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW IS A PERSONAL INVITATION TO A MEET AND GREET TO MEET VICKY GODWIN. VICKY GODWIN, AS YOU KNOW, IS RUNNING FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR HERE IN TEXAS. THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW INDICATE THAT THERE IS A SHIFT GOING ON. THE TEXAS IS, IN FACT, TURNING BLUE. VICKY IS PART OF THAT. THE LAST NUMBERS WE SAW JUST OUT THIS WEEK INDICATES THAT SHE IS NOW 2%, TWO POINTS AHEAD OF PATRICK.

GINA HAS PULLED EVEN WITH ABBOTT AND TALARICO IS NOW BEATING PAXTON BY 2 TO 3 POINTS.

Y'ALL MAY NOT AGREE WITH IT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE MOVEMENT IS THERE. AND IN ORDER TO GET Y'ALL INTO A POSITION, SHOULD THIS EARTHQUAKE HAPPEN, WE WANT TO OFFER YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH NO PRESS, NO PICTURES, NO NOTHING. JUST SIT IN THE LIVING ROOM AND TALK TO VICKY ABOUT WHAT HER PLAN IS, IF SHE'S ELECTED TO OFFICE THE PUBLIC. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC EVENT. WE ARE WORKING WITH TALARICO AND GINA TO GET THEM IN HERE TO DO A PUBLIC EVENT.

SO I DON'T WANT THE CITIZENS TO THINK WE'RE IGNORING THEM. WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT. BUT THIS IS JUST FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGERS, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND SCHOOL BOARD SUPERINTENDENTS. WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THE LEADERSHIP OF ELLIS COUNTY INTO ONE LOCATION TO SIT DOWN AND JUST HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION. THIS IS NOT POLITICAL, SO TO SPEAK. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED AT THIS POINT IN YOUR PROBLEMS WITHIN MIDLOTHIAN.

THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEVEL SHOULD THIS ELECTION GO THROUGH IN OUR FAVOR. SO I KNOW THAT YOU MAY NEED TO CONSULT YOUR CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING IN ALL ONE ROOM TOGETHER. I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO Y'ALL, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHOW UP FOR THIS. I THINK IT'LL BE REAL INFORMATIVE FOR YOU. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CONVERT YOU TO BE REPUBLICANS OR ANYTHING. DEMOCRATS HAVE YOU REPUBLICAN.

SO BE IT. JUST SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE AND COME ON. JUST BE SURE TO PLEASE RSVP IF YOU WANT TO BE FED. FOOD WOULD BE GOOD. I'M HURT. SO WHAT I GOT FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU,

[2026-287 Consider and act upon a request for a Detailed Site Plan for a 10.76+ acre portion of Planned Development District No. 179 (PD-179) for a Home Improvement Store. The property is generally located on West Main Street, approximately 658 feet east of West US Highway 287. (SP05-2026-046).]

MA'AM, AND I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THE DELAY. IT'S OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM 2026 287. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR A DETAILED SITE PLAN FOR 10.76 ACRE PORTION OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. DISTRICT 179 FOR HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON WEST MAIN STREET, APPROXIMATELY 658FT WEST EAST OF WEST U.S. HIGHWAY TWO. 87 MIRIAM. HI. MARIAN SPENCER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AGAIN. THE NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR A DETAILED SITE PLAN FOR A HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE IN THE CRESTVIEW DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THIS IS IN THE PD 179, WHICH YOU ALL HEARD A COUPLE A FEW WEEKS AGO. THE PROPERTY IS IN THE REGIONAL MODEL. IT'S UNDEVELOPED. AS I MENTIONED, THIS ISN'T PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 179 YOU ALL HEARD

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THE UPDATE TO THE THE OVERALL PD AT THE END OF JULY. AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR THE SITE PLAN FOR HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE BECAUSE IT'S OVER 20,000FTā– S. SO THE HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE IS 106,651FTā– S. AND THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A 28,156 SQUARE FOOT GARDEN CENTER ATTACHED TO THAT. A COUPLE OF DETAILS IS THAT THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THE OLD TOWN ARCHITECTURE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, BUT THEY DID INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE FEATURES IN THEIR ELEVATIONS. THEY DID AS A PART OF THE PD, THEY DID ASK TO HAVE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE OF 85%, WHICH THEY DO MEET, AND THEY ALSO ARE INCORPORATING IMPERVIOUS PAVER, PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, PERVIOUS PAVEMENT ALONG THEIR SITE TO INCREASE THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVER TO REDUCE THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVER. THEY DO HAVE THEIR OUTDOOR DISPLAYS LIMITED TO ADJACENT BUILDING AND IN DESIGNATED AREAS. THOSE DESIGNATED AREAS ARE HIGHLIGHTED. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE EQUIPMENT RENTAL. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRAILER DISPLAY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TRUCK RENTAL. AND THEN DOWN HERE IS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR SHED DISPLAY. AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SEASONAL SALES AREA LOCATED HERE DURING THE HOLIDAYS. AND SO THEIR ELEVATIONS, THEIR MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40FT. IT DOES INCLUDE OLD TOWN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. THEY DO HAVE CORNICES THAT EXTEND AT LEAST SIX SIX INCHES ABOVE THE WALL SURFACE. THEY DO HAVE FREE STANDING CANOPIES ALONG THE FRONT AND THE REAR. THEY DO HAVE THEIR ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT SCREENED, AND IT DOES GIVE THE APPEARANCE OF MULTIPLE BUILDINGS WITHIN A SINGULAR STRUCTURE. AND THEY DO HAVE VARIED HEIGHT PLANS, AND THEY ALSO INCORPORATED VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION. THEIR LANDSCAPING DOES HAVE TREES ALONG WEST MAIN STREET, BUT OUTSIDE OF ANY UTILITY EASEMENT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THE CRESTVIEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THE TREES ARE ALSO GOING TO SERVE AS A BUFFER ALONG WEST MAIN STREET FOR THEIR PARKING AREA AND THEIR LOAD AND GO KIND OF AREA HERE. THERE'S THEIR PARKING ISLANDS WILL INCLUDE TREES, AND THERE WILL BE TURF AND SHRUBS ALONG THE REAR OF THE BUILDING HERE WHERE IT WILL COVER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SOMEWHAT SCREEN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN THEIR LOADING AREA IS FACING THE DEVELOPMENT AND NOT. 287. AND SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED SITE PLAN, ELEVATION AND LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE. AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN AS WELL. 6 TO 0 AT THEIR AUGUST 18TH MEETING. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. MIRIAM. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME UP AND MAKE PRESENTATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. MY NAME IS JORDAN CORBETT WITH KIMLEY-HORN, BUT I REPRESENT HOME DEPOT AS THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT. I'LL JUST SAY THAT HOME DEPOT IS VERY EXCITED WITH THE PROSPECT OF BRINGING A STORE TO MIDLOTHIAN AND TO THE RESIDENTS HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH MARION AND CLYDE AND AND ALL OF MIDLOTHIAN STAFF TO GET THE PLAN TO WHERE IT IS TODAY. OBVIOUSLY, I'VE SPOKEN WITH YOU ALL AT THE THE WORK SESSION BEFORE ABOUT ELEVATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'VE TRIED TO INCORPORATE AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE INTO OUR APPLICATION. AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF. AND THAT IS I KNOW THAT WE PUT THE OTHER HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE PRETTY MUCH THROUGH THE WRINGER TO GET VERY SPECIFIC PRODUCT. IS THIS DOES THIS PROJECT REFLECT SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD ON THE OTHER ONE? YES IT DOES. OKAY.

AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PARKING WIDTH TOO. ARE THESE NINE FOOT STALLS OR TEN FOOT STALLS? THEY'RE TEN BY 18 AND THEY DO HAVE 30% OF THEM ARE NINE BY 18. SO THEY DO HAVE 30% OF THEM ARE COMPACT. OKAY. I'M SORRY, NINE BY 20. SAY THAT AGAIN. THEY HAVE SOME NINE BY 20% OF THEM ARE 920 AND THE REST ARE TEN BY 20. OKAY. COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT SOME OF THE

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OTHER COMMISSION GO THROUGH THE WRINGER TO A CERTAIN EXTENT WITH THE OTHER COMPETITOR. WHAT WERE SOME OF THOSE PARAMETERS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE? JUST TO KIND OF BACK ME UP ON THAT LONG DECISION A LONG TIME AGO? SURE. WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PD AMENDMENT, WE LOOKED AT THAT PD, THAT LANGUAGE FOR THE IN MOSTLY IN REGARDS TO THE OUTDOOR STORAGE LOCATIONS, AREAS, TIMES HAS TO BE SCREENED AND THE LANDSCAPING OF THE AREA. AND ALSO IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DID THAT WERE EXTRA WAS THE ALLOWANCE OF THE PAVING PERVIOUS PAVERS. AND WE DID LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING ALONG MAIN STREET WHERE AS WE WANTED TO SEE THAT SCREENING FOR THE PARKING AREAS AS WELL. SO WE INCORPORATED A LOT OF THOSE EXTRAS INTO IT. AND BUT WE MADE SURE THAT THE OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIMITING THE OUTDOOR AREAS AND TIME OF YEAR AND ALL OF THAT WAS EXACTLY THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE OTHER HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT LITTLE BACK HISTORY. SORRY FOR EVERYONE THAT HAD TO HELP ME CATCH UP THERE. I WILL FIRST OF ALL SAY TO THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, KUDOS TO YOU ALL FOR REALLY KIND OF TAKING THAT FEEDBACK, GIVING A NOD TO THAT OLD TOWN FEEL. I SEE IT, IT'S DEFINITELY PREVALENT THERE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT ONE. ON THE ONE INTERSECTION CLOSEST TO THE FIRE STATION, CAN YOU JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY OVERVIEW WHAT WE'VE DONE? ALSO, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM US TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT WAS NOT INTERFERING WITH THE OPERATIONS GOING ON AT FIRE STATION ONE. SO IF YOU JUST DO A JUST VERY QUICK LITTLE. SURE. IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANTS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT DRIVE APPROACH HAS BEEN WIDENED TO 36FT WIDE. AND THEY'VE ALSO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR TRUCK AREA. SO IT'S ACCOMMODATING THAT SO THAT THEIR TRUCKS CAN COME IN AND GO OUT AND HIT THE SIGNAL THAT'S OVER HERE THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WE WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THIS AS A ONE WAY TRAFFIC FOR THEIR LOADING, BUT ALSO FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE GETTING LOADING IN FOR THEIR, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ROLL UP DOORS HERE. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PAINT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BACK UP INTO AND LOAD UP IN THESE BAYS HERE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE IS THIS 36 FOOT WIDE. OKAY. SO ON THAT, I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO TELL WITH ALL THE ARROWS AND EVERYTHING. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD DISCUSSED THIS, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE USING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PARKING LOT? BASICALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT SHOULD THERE BE A MEDIAN THERE? RIGHT NOW, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND THEN COMING DOWN THE BACK OF THE STORE, WHICH I REMEMBER THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT SHOULD THAT BE BLOCKED OFF. SO I MEAN, HAS THAT IMPROVED SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT IT OR IS IT JUST LEFT THE SAME? WELL IT'S APPLICANT, IT'S IMPROVED A LITTLE BIT. OKAY.

AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF. THERE'S A LOT OF ARROWS AND LINES. I WOULD LOVE JUST YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S THERE IS A LOT GOING ON. WE'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE AS BEST WE CAN ON A SITE PLAN. SO LIKE MARION SAID, AND SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, THE, THE INTENT NOW AND WE WORKED WITH HOME DEPOT TO FLIP THE, THE WAY THAT THE, THE PROS ARE ACCESSING THIS SIDE OF THE STORE. SO IT WAS THE, THE ALTERNATE LOCATION WHERE YOU WOULD COME IN AT THE FRONT OF THE STORE, ENTER, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THE KIND OF EAST TO WEST EXIT AT THE LOCATION WITH THE FIRE STATION. NOW WE'VE WIDENED THE DRIVE. WE SHIFTED THE BUILDING SOUTH AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHILE STILL ALLOWING THE DELIVERY TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO STILL GET AROUND THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING. SHIFTING IT SOUTH, WE'RE ABLE TO GET OUR 26 FOOT WIDE FIRE LANE, TWO DIRECTIONAL LANE OF TRAFFIC THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT ON THE SIDE CLOSEST TO THE STORE. WE NOW HAVE THEM ENTERING WHERE YOU'RE AT THE FIRE STATION. IT'S A JOINT DRIVE TODAY. THERE IS A PARKING LOT, BUT IT IS A FIRE LANE AND THEN WE'RE ONLY BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT FIRE LANE. AND SO THEY WOULD ENTER AND COME IN. EITHER THE DELIVERY TRUCKS WOULD COME IN AND WE ACTUALLY ADDED, I DON'T KNOW IF I IS THERE A MOUSE IN HERE? IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE IT, THIS LITTLE LOCATION RIGHT HERE IS A IS A LANDSCAPE ISLAND NOW. AND SO TO PREVENT JUST A NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH AND CIRCLING AROUND THE BACK OF THE STORE, WE HAD THIS LANDSCAPE ISLAND SO THAT YOU DON'T REALLY VISUALLY SEE IT FROM MAIN STREET. YOU, THE DELIVERY TRUCKS HAVE KIND OF A SLIP LANE TO BE ABLE TO COME AND JOG INTO THE REAR OF THE STORE, AND THEN PRO CUSTOMERS WOULD COME IN, GO FROM WEST TO EAST. NOW BACK INTO THOSE SPACES ADJACENT TO THE STORE, EXIT OUT ON THE THE FRONT SIDE, EITHER AT THE ENTRANCE THERE, THE SECOND ONE AT MAIN STREET OR WIND THEIR WAY OVER TO THE SIGNAL DEPENDING ON HOW THEY WANTED TO LEAVE. SO THAT'S KIND

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OF THE MAIN CHANGES WE WE IMPLEMENTED SINCE RECEIVING THE FEEDBACK. SO NONE OF THE.

YOU'RE THINKING THE 18 WHEELERS COMING IN ARE GOING TO EXIT OUT. THEY'RE GOING TO GO FROM KIND OF NORTH TO SOUTH TO THE EAST SIDE AND THEN OVER TO THE SIGNAL. IT'LL BE A ONE WAY DELIVERY DRIVE FROM BETWEEN THE FIRE STATION AND HOME DEPOT DOWN THE REAR, BACK IN, AND THEN SWING AROUND THE THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE STORE AND THEN OVER TO THE SIGNAL AND OUT.

OKAY, RICHARD. I'M SORRY IF I. WASN'T PAYING THE NORTH EAST CORNER UP NEXT TO THE OR NORTHWEST CORNER. IT IS. I SAID LAST TIME, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE RIGHT ONLY FOR ENTRY AND EXIT EGRESS AND INGRESS AND EGRESS, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO TURN INTO IF WE GO BACK TO OUR STUDY, THAT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE OVER TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A CONTROL. IF YOU GO EAST, THAT INTERSECTION THERE IS CONTROLLED, RIGHT? ARE YOU ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE THE SECOND LIKE THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, THE DRIVEWAY OR THE ONE ON THE FAR WEST? YEAH. BUT IF YOU GO TO THE WEST, NEXT TO THE FIRE STATION, I DON'T I THINK THAT SHOULD BE RIGHT. RIGHT. ONLY THERE'S A SIGNAL. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PICTURE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BROADER PICTURE HE'S TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S I BELIEVE THERE'S A SIGNAL PLAN AT THE AT THE CENTRAL ENTRANCE POINT TO THE FRONT OF THE STORE. YES, YES. HE'S TALKING NEAR THE FIRE STATION. HE BELIEVES THAT IT SHOULD BE RIGHT IN. RIGHT OUT.

YEAH. SO WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THIS IS THEIR MAIN WAY FOR THEIR FIRE TRUCKS TO GET BACK INTO THE FIRE STATION. SO THEY THEY COME IN AND ENTER AT THIS LOCATION AND THEN CIRCLE AROUND THE REAR. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE FASHION, THE TRAFFIC INTO AND OUT OF THE CENTER. THAT WAS IN THE MIDDLE ONE. THAT'S WHERE THE LIGHTS GOING. NO, THE LIGHTS OFF OF THERE. THE LIGHT IS NOT ON THIS SIDE, BUT THE, THE ONE TO THE WEST. THIS ONE.

NO, KEEP GOING THERE. THAT ONE. THERE'S, THERE'S NO CONTROL THERE. SO THE ISSUE WITH THE THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE THAT WE HEARD WAS THAT THAT'S THEIR WAY TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK INTO THE FIRE STATION. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S A SHARED DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THE TWO. IT'S A SHARED DRIVEWAY BETWEEN HOME DEPOT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO I'M SORRY IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING YOUR YOUR QUESTION OR CONCERN. I'M JUST WONDERING, AND MAYBE CHIEF MACASKILL CAN TELL US, BUT I'M PICTURING A TRUCK WITH A TRAILER, LIKE A REGULAR CONTRACTOR TRUCK JUST COMING OUT OF THE ANGLED PARKING THERE. THEY'RE COMING OUT AND THEY'RE SITTING AT THAT INTERSECTION, THAT LITTLE COMING OUT NEAR THE FIRE STATION. AN EMERGENCY COMES. ARE Y'ALL USING THAT TO EXIT? IT'S ONLY FOR Y'ALL TO COME IN. SO YOU'RE GOING AROUND THE OTHER WAY AND THEN YOU'RE PUTTING THE GATE IN. SO REGULAR CARS CANNOT GO AROUND THE THE STATION. RIGHT. COME ON UP, CHIEF. HE WAS GIVING ME NODS, BUT THEN HE STOPPED WITH HIM. HE NORMALLY DOESN'T NEED A WRITTEN. I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHEN ARE YOU EVER HESITANT TO COME DOWN HERE? YEAH, I JUST FLEW IN. SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY TRAFFIC GOES OUT ON THE FRONT APRON ONTO MAIN STREET OR MAIN STREET, AND WHEN WE RETURN, 95% OF THE TIME, WE USE THAT EASTERN SHARED ACCESS FOR OUR ENGINES AND TRUCK TO COME IN, GO AROUND THE BACK OF THE STATION AND GO IN BACK INTO THE STATION, THE BAY. WHAT WE WILL DO AS HOME DEPOT DEVELOPS, IT'S OUR PLAN TO FENCE OUR PARKING LOT AND PUT IN A GATE THAT WOULD CUT DOWN ON, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC THAT MAY GET LOST, AND TRYING TO DRIVE THROUGH OUR PARKING LOT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FIRE DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. SO I GUESS IF WE PUT IN, I THINK IF I CAN TRY TO TRANSLATE, IF WE PUT IN A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY AT THAT SHARED DRIVE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN BACK INTO THE STATION. I THINK THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT THAT WOULD PROHIBIT US. WE WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO COME IN FROM ONE DIRECTION TO TURN INTO THAT, THAT ACCESS POINT. WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE. I ASKED MY QUESTION AS WELL. THIS LITTLE NEW MEDIAN TYPE THING THAT THEY'RE ADDING RIGHT THERE IN THAT SAME LITTLE CORRIDOR, IS THAT IN ANY FEEDBACK, IS THAT IMPACTING OPERATIONAL OR JUST ACCESS TO THE MAIN OFFICE SPACE AND ALL THE STUFF AT FIRE STATION ONE THERE? NO, I DON'T

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THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THAT SHARED DRIVE IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO GET OUT OF THE STATION. THE ONLY THING THAT MIGHT DO THAT IS A QUEUING ISSUE. IF WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE QUEUED UP AND STOPPED IN FRONT OF THE STATION, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT DELAY US A LITTLE BIT TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SEPARATE FOR US TO GET OUT THE IT'S JUST THE RETURN TO THE STATION. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST COMPLICATED. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TRUCKS TURNING ON THAT CORNER. I CAN PROMISE YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF TIRE TRACKS THROUGH THE THE YARD. WE'LL PUT ROCKS OUT THERE AND SEE HOW FAR THEY GET DOWN THE STREET. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S WE ALREADY HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC ALL THE TIME THERE. ANYWAY, IT'S NOT NEW TO US IN THAT LOCATION. SORRY, RUSS. SO MY CONCERNS WITH THAT, THAT ENTRY POINT, I THINK THIS PLAN DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB OF ADDRESSING THEM THAN, THAN WHAT THE PREVIOUS ITERATION SHOWED. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CONFIGURATION NOW IT'S INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED TO DISINCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO USE THAT AS A PRIMARY POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THE BUILDING, UNLESS THEY ARE DRIVING A BIG RIG TO DELIVER TO THE HOME DEPOT OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY'RE A CONTRACTOR, THEY MAY TURN IN THERE AND THEN DRIVE PAST TO BACK UP INTO THE STALL. BUT THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE NOT YOUR HIGHEST FLOW OF USERS TO THAT. SO I THINK IT'S DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB OF KIND OF DESIGNING THE FRONT OF THE STORE FOR, HEY, THIS IS FOR ALL THE CUSTOMERS. HEY, THE BACK OF THE STORE, THIS IS MORE FOR ALL THE PROFESSIONALS. AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE PROFESSIONALS IN DIRECT CONTACT CONTACT WITH OUR FIRE STATION THAN CONSUMERS LIKE MYSELF, RIGHT. WHO HAVE A LOT LESS TRAINING. AND SO, CHIEF, THE GATE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT IT'S AT THE SOUTH END OF THE STATION THOUGH, RIGHT? PREVENTING THE FLOW TO THE BACK. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UP NEAR MAIN STREET, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. YEAH. THERE WE GO. SO WHAT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD PUT A GATE HERE ON OUR PROPERTY SO THAT AS OUR OUR CREWS COME IN, THEY COULD SIGNAL THAT AND OPEN IT. AND THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY FENCE THE BORDER OF OUR PROPERTY AND THEN COME BACK UP HERE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A GATE THERE. SO WE'RE JUST SECURING OUR PARKING LOT BASICALLY, RIGHT? WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC MAYBE IN THIS AREA AS IT BUILDS, AND IT'S JUST A WAY FOR US TO SECURE WHERE OUR OUR PERSONNEL PARK THEIR VEHICLES, WHICH I SUPPORT CLEARLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHERE THE GATE AND THE FENCE WOULD GO. IT STARTS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. YES. AND THEN WRAPS BACK AROUND TO THE WEST. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, PERFECT. AND SO QUESTION FOR STAFF, I DON'T KNOW. DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? SORRY, I WAS STANDING UP SO LONG. I GOT A LITTLE LIGHTHEADED THERE. SO THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. WITH THE THE TIA REQUIRING THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL I ASSUME IT MUST BE FULLY INSTALLED AND OPERATIONAL BEFORE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS GRANTED ON THIS BUILDING. THAT IS CORRECT. IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE ANY BUILDING GOES IN. IT'S WITH PHASE ONE. OKAY, SO WHICH RIGHT NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE THAT SIGNAL HAS BEEN APPROVED BY TXDOT. AND SO IT'S JUST WE'RE FIGURING OUT TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION ON THAT. IS TXDOT CONSTRUCTING IT OR IS THE PRIVATE SECTOR CONSTRUCTING IT? THANK YOU. IT'S PART OF THE CRESTVIEW OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. SO IT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN QUICKLY. YES. THAT'S THE INTENT. PERFECT. RIGHT. WELL, THE OTHER ONES AROUND TOWN ON TEXDOT RIGHT OF WAY IS TAKE ANYWHERE FROM THREE YEARS TO NEVER. SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ARE WE DELAYING DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF FACTORS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL? THOSE WERE THE MAIN CONCERNS I HAD. I DO WISH THAT SOME, ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTHWEST FACADE OF THE BUILDING ON THE REAR SIDE, THAT SOME OF THAT CORNICE WAS WRAPPED AROUND. I THINK IT WILL REMAIN VISIBLE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE GARDEN CENTER, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S JUST ON THE KICK UP PARAPETS, BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THAT WILL STILL BE VISIBLE EVEN WHEN A BUILDING IS ULTIMATELY BUILT BEHIND IT, BECAUSE OF THE TRIANGULAR NATURE OF THE LOT BEHIND THE FIRE STATION. I THINK THE THE NORTHERN END OF THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE SCREENED BY THE FIRE STATION AND WHATEVER ULTIMATELY GETS BUILT BEHIND IT TO THE SOUTH. BUT THAT WOULD BE THE THE ONLY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT I WOULD HAVE IS TO BRING SOME OF THAT, THAT FRONT FACADE DESIGN ELEMENT AND WRAP IT AROUND THAT SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE BUILDING. RICHARD, ANYTHING TO ADD TO YOUR MIX ON? OH, I'M SORRY. NO. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT ROSS JUST MADE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WORK THAT INTO TO RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. MAYBE THAT WILL COME FORTH AS A, AS A MOTION. BUT YEAH, I, I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD PLAN OVERALL. I THINK IT FITS WITH WHAT WE'RE AFTER. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MAJORITY OF THE TEN FOOT WIDE STALLS. THANK YOU, STAFF FOR

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PUSHING ON DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS TO GET THOSE WIDER STALLS. I THINK IT HELPS. FINAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I DID HAVE ONE CLARIFY. YOU TALKED ABOUT PARKING EARLIER, MAYOR, AND YOU INDICATED THAT THE WHAT WAS THE RATIO OF STALLS AND SIZES 30%, 30% OR NINE BY 20.

AND THE REMAINDER THE REMAINING 80% ARE TEN BY 20. SO 30% OR NINE BY 20 OR 9 BY 18, NINE BY 20. SORRY, NINE BY 18 AGAIN. OKAY. AND JUST LOOKING AT THE MEASUREMENTS AND THEIR, THEIR PLAN, RIGHT, IS WE HAVE A LOT OF IT APPEARS TO BE TEN BY 19 BECAUSE YOU HAVE 38 FOOT WIDE PARKING ISLANDS. SO HOW MUCH OF THE TEN BY 20 IS ACTUALLY TEN BY 19. IT ONLY I MEAN, ONLY TEN BY 20. I SEE IS WHERE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO STORE TRUCK RENTALS. YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE TEN BY 20 ARE GOING TO BE I BELIEVE IT'S THE TWO PARKING SPINES NEAR ON THE PRO SIDE ONES WITH THE ANGLED STALLS AND I BELIEVE THE ONE TO THE NORTH. I COULD HAVE THAT WRONG, BUT HOME DEPOTS PROTOTYPE IS NINE BY 19. SO THEY ARE DOING THE TEN BY 19 AND MAJORITY OF THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME TO GET THE PARKING TO SQUEEZE IN ON THE THE SITE THAT WE HAD TO DO NINE BY 18 AND THE STAFF WERE ASKING, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE STANDARD WIDTH OF A PARKING DRIVE BETWEEN SPOTS 26 OR IN HERE THERE'S 26, BUT THEY DID THEIR 25 THEIR 25 ON THEIR PLAN. BUT I'M SAYING, WHAT IS LIKE ALL OF OUR OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS? DO WE HAVE WE HAVE 2424. SO THEY'RE GIVING US AN EXTRA FOOT IN THE DRIVE AND TAKING ONE FOOT ESSENTIALLY OUT OF THE PARKING SPACES. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I KNOW A BIG POINT OF CONVERSATION WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS IS THIS IS A HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE. PEOPLE DON'T BRING THEIR PRIUS, RIGHT? THEY BRING THEIR PICKUP TRUCK BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET MULCH AND PLANTS AND BOARDS AND, YOU KNOW, LUMBER AND SHEET METAL, WHATEVER THEY NEED FOR THAT PROJECT. AND, AND IF WE'RE NOT DESIGNING THIS PARKING LOT INTENTIONALLY, I'VE BEEN TO SOME HOME DEPOTS WHERE IT'S A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE, YOU KNOW, F-250 WITH THE LONG BED THAT WHOOPS INTO ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, NINE BY 18 SPOTS BECAUSE BY GOD, THEY CAN FIT IT THERE. AND THEN THE WHOLE THING IS SCREWED UP FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. SO I, I REALLY, I THINK WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION, WE WERE REALLY PUSHING HARD FOR 26 FOOT DRIVE LANES AND TAKING ONE FOOT OUT OF EACH SIDE OF THE PARKING STALLS. THAT WAY. IT KIND OF CREATED A FLEX 20 AND I THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE. IS THERE IS THERE ANY ROOM? I MEAN, THIS LOOKS PRETTY TIGHT TO, TO, TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. YEAH, I BELIEVE I COULD LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE REAL ONLY NINE BY 18 STALLS ARE WHERE THE SEASONAL SALES IS LOCATED. AND SO, YOU KNOW, A MAJORITY OF THE YEAR, HALF THE YEAR BASED OFF THE PD ZONING, YOU KNOW, THOSE WILL BE OCCUPIED. SO IT WON'T BE VERY MANY TRUCKS IN THOSE STALLS. BUT YEAH, HOME DEPOT IS, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL PROTOTYPICAL STANDARD IS A NINE BY 19 STALL WITH A 25 FOOT DRIVE AISLE. AND SO, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FIRE LANES AROUND THE PERIMETER, WE WOULD DO 26FT BECAUSE WE'RE OVER 30FT TALL ON THE BUILDING SIDE. SO FROM A, FROM ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL WIDTH HERE, THERE REALLY IS NOT MUCH NORTH SOUTH TO BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE TO THE SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY MOTIONS ON THE TABLE? I'LL MAKE HIM. I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE RECOMMENDING ON THE NORTH SIDE. YEAH. IT'S WITHOUT HAVING LINEAR MEASUREMENTS ON THERE AND PERHAPS YOU DO. I JUST CAN'T READ THEM. LET ME GET TO THAT SCREEN. SO LIKE. IN IN THIS AREA. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. SO IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE. YEAH. I MEAN IDEALLY AT LEAST THAT FIRST 33 FOOT SECTION, WHICH IS THE DARKER COLOR, JUST TO GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE FINISH ON THE BACK ON THAT PART THAT PROJECTS BACK IN HERE. I THINK IT WOULD THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE ROADWAY. SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, HEY, REALLY, CAN YOU INCORPORATE A 360 DEGREE ARCHITECTURE, I THINK. ANY BIT HELPS, BUT THAT SHOULD ACCOMPLISH THE MOST

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VISIBLE PORTION OF IT. YEAH, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE QUESTION TO YOU, DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS ADDING CORNICING ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING? NO, I THINK HOME DEPOT WILL BE HAPPY TO TO DO THAT. SO. AND AND ROSS, I GUESS TO YOUR POINT, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTHWEST, I GUESS BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHWESTERN PART WOULD BE SOMEWHAT BLOCKED BY THE FIRE STATION. BUT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT, I MEAN YEAH, I MEAN, 360 DEGREE ARC, IF WE THINK THAT IT'S AMENABLE TO GO AHEAD AND EXTEND THAT FULL 360, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERENCE. BUT I THINK THAT IS A MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL COST IMPLICATION TO DO THE ENTIRE REAR OF THE STORE, BUT CAPPING EACH SIDE OF IT FOR A PORTION OF IT. I THINK THEY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO I'D SAY WRAPPING. YEAH, BOTH SECTIONS NORTH AND SOUTH 33FT, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE HIGHLY VISIBLE CORNERS. AND I THINK THE REMAINDER OF IT WOULD BE SCREENED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. TO MAKE THAT IN A FORM OF A MOTION. YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITION OF CORNICE TO MATCH THE FRONT AND SIDE FACADES ALONG THE NORTHERNMOST AND SOUTHERNMOST PROJECTED PANEL ON THE REAR ELEVATION MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER HEARD MULTIPLE SECONDS. I'LL TAKE COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 0.

THANK YOU, HOME DEPOT. THANK YOU TEAM. THANK YOU. MIRIAM. COUNCIL ON ITEM 2026 288. I'M GOING TO RECUSE. I'M GOING TO PUT RICHARD ON THE SPOT. SINCE YOU HAVE THE MOST EXPERIENCE RUNNING MEETINGS, DO YOU MIND RUNNING ITEM 288 SINCE OUR MAYOR PRO TEM IS OUT THIS EVENING? I'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND TURN IT OVER TO YOU. EITHER WAY, YOU CAN JUST STAY DOWN THERE. THE ITEM 2026 TO 87. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON REQUEST FOR A DETAILED NO. 28288 CHANGE OF PAGE SIR RICHARD. SORRY. TRY AGAIN. AGENDA ITEM 2026 288 CONSIDER ACT. UPON A REQUEST

[2026-288 Consider and act upon a request from the Midlothian Marshals to expend $75,000 of Municipal Hotel/Motel Tax monies for a six-month awareness, tourism and broadcast viewership campaign for the 2026-2027 season.]

FROM THE MIDLOTHIAN MARSHALS TO EXPAND $75,000 OF HOTEL TAX MONIES FOR A SIX MONTH AWARENESS, TOURISM AND BROADCAST VIEWERSHIP CAMPAIGN FOR THE 2026 2027 SEASON. GREAT.

SO THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE BEEN. WE HAVE BROUGHT THINGS FOR THE MUNICIPAL HOTEL, MOTEL TAX MONIES. THIS ONE IS ONE THAT IN ORDER TO JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTANDS, IN ORDER TO BRING THIS FORWARD, THE APPLICANT HAS TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE AS SET FORTH IN THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM DIVISION. THIS APPLICATION DOES MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX FUND TO COVER THE REQUEST. THE CURRENT BALANCE AS OF WHEN. THIS WAS. WELL, THE CURRENT BALANCE. AS OF TODAY, IT SAYS AUGUST 14TH IS 678,000, ROUGHLY. AND SO I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS ABOUT IT.

THEY ARE REQUESTING. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY HERE FROM THAT GROUP. THEY ARE REQUESTING $75,000 FOR THIS CAMPAIGN. AND THE TOTAL COST IS 150. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR A 50% COST.

AND IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAVE EXAMPLES OF WE HAVE THEIR ACTUAL APPLICATION. YOU HAVE EXAMPLES ABOUT THEIR HOME SCHEDULE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT AGAIN, I HAVE LIMITED KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE IT'S JUST AN APPLICATION WE HAVE. BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER WHAT I CAN.

THIS IS A ONE TIME REQUEST. AND THERE IT SAYS THIS IS A RECURRING PROGRAM, BUT THIS IS

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A ONE TIME REQUEST FOR MONEY. I THINK IT'S A ONE TIME REQUEST FROM THEM FOR THIS. YES, YES, IT WOULD BE PAID OVER THE SIX MONTHS. IT WOULDN'T BE ALL AT ONE TIME, BUT IT'S JUST THE ONE TIME. IT'S NOT A RECURRING REQUEST. REQUEST. NO, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR IT TO BE RECORDING. AND I GUESS I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE DO HAVE A POLICY WITH THESE, WHETHER IT'S HERE OR THERE, THAT IF IT'S APPROVED, WE HAVE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT, A WITHIN 60 DAYS AFTER THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE EITHER HAD AN EVENT OR THEY HAVE SPENT THE MONEY THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL THE INVOICES PROVING THAT THEY HAVE SPENT THE FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE. AND SO WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE AND FINANCE WHERE WE MONITOR THOSE AND TRACK THOSE. NO ONE FROM THE MARSHALS IS HERE. DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. MR. MORGAN SENT AN EMAIL, AND I THOUGHT HE COPIED COUNSEL THAT HE IS AT A HIS AS HE COACHES A FOOTBALL TEAM. AND THAT'S WHERE HE IS AT TONIGHT.

THE SCHEDULE GIVEN IS THE ENTIRE SCHEDULE. THAT'S THE HOME SCHEDULE. THAT'S THE HOME.

IT'S THE ENTIRE HOME SCHEDULE. YES. OKAY. AND IS THE ONE THAT THEY'RE BELIEVING THEY'LL DRAW PEOPLE INTO THE CITY FOR. DO WE HAVE A SPONSOR OF THE CAN SPEAK FOR THE TEAM? NO, UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S NOT HERE. NOBODY'S HERE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE. DO WE HAVE ANY? HOW MANY? WHAT'S THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE? WE. IT MAY BE IN HERE. YEAH. THEY HAD LIKE IT WAS 200 OR SOMETHING. WAS IT 200 OR SO. AND THERE'S THERE'S LOTS OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FROM, YOU KNOW, BASELINE TOURISM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORICAL AMOUNT OF FOLKS COMING IN FROM A HOTEL STANDPOINT? AND THEN HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TRACK THOSE RESULTS GOING FORWARD? SO IT'S KIND OF A DISADVANTAGE THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. I'M KIND OF LEARNING THE PROCESS IN THE HOT FUNDS. I COULD SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MCDI KNOW MEDS PROCESS ABOUT HOW THEY'RE ALLOCATING AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S FINAL REPORTING. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I LOOK AT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS APPLICATION AS WELL AS COUNCIL, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY MONITORED AND WE'RE KIND OF BEING DISPERSED AT THIS POINT. THIS IS SORT OF A, IN MY OPINION, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE FUNDS IN THE TRADITIONAL SCENES IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? EVERYTHING OKAY? YEAH. SO, I MEAN, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR 60 DAYS THERE'S. A LOT OF WORK TO RECEIVE REPORTING. IS ANYONE ELSE REVIEWING THAT FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT? I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE THE PROCESS WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR THESE FUNDS. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TIMING AND.

THAT IT IS WHAT THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO. AND I HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF WHO ACTUALLY IS TRACKING THE FUNDS AND LETS ME KNOW WHEN THE FINAL FUNDS ARE DUE. BUT YES, THAT IS THE PROCESS. WE'RE REVIEWING THOSE. AND. YES, MA'AM. IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WELL, WE REVIEW IT WHEN THEY DO THE APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THOSE STATE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN WHEN THE INVOICES COME IN, WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY MATCH TO WHAT THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO SPEND THE FUNDS ON. BUT TO CONFIRM YOU ARE NOT REVIEWING YOUR INTERNAL PROCESSES ON HOT AT THIS MOMENT, THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL OH NO, NO, NO, WE HAVE WE HAVE HAD THAT ESTABLISHED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. I WOULDN'T SAY WE HAD IT FOR A YEARS PAST, BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR SOME TIME NOW. OKAY. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME JUST TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SOME REALLY, YOU KNOW, INTENTIONAL OVERSIGHT OVER THESE DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING APPROPRIATELY USED. AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FAIR TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S WATCHING THIS AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THOSE HEALTHY PARAMETERS, DEFINITELY. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, FROM A HISTORICAL STANDPOINT, IS THIS A LARGER ASK THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN PAST, LARGER THAN SOME THAT WE'VE SEEN? YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST AND NOT TO CALL ANYBODY OUT. BUT THE CHAMBER IS USUALLY OUR BIGGEST APPLICANT FOR THIS.

THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IT HASN'T GOTTEN CLOSE TO THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT. NO. OKAY.

NOT ON A SINGLE ASK. OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T OH THERE'S NO THEY'RE NOT. THEY HAVEN'T COME TO MCD FOR FUNDING FOR THIS. CORRECT. OKAY. COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

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I'LL JUST SAY MORE COMMENT THAN ANYTHING. I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL MARSHALL'S GAMES. I THINK IT'S A GREAT FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO OUT, SUPPORT THEM. I MEAN, I'M THERE. I HAVE A MARSHALL SHIRT, RIGHT? I HAVE THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, I DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS A BIG ASK $75,000, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT PUBLIC FUNDS, PARTICULARLY TO RELATIVELY NEW SEMIPROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL ORGANIZATION. I'M NOT NECESSARILY AT THIS POINT MAKING AN INVESTMENT OF THAT SIZE, JUST IN MY OPINION, ON IT. AND AGAIN, I DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE AS WE FIRM UP THE PROCESSES TO FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE STARTING TO SEE LARGER ASKS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WE DO HAVE THAT REPORTING MECHANISM IN PLACE, THE TRANSPARENCY TO THIS COUNCIL AS WE'RE OVERSEEING THESE FUNDS. SO JUST I DON'T KNOW IF I'M LANDING ON A SPECIFIC NUMBER PER SE, BUT I'M DEFINITELY NOT FEELING LIKE I'M COMFORTABLE FOR THE 75,000.

WOULD YOU CARE TO MAKE A. IT'S SO HARD FOR ME TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT ANYONE FROM THE ORGANIZATION HERE TO REALLY RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS. I MEAN, I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME BEFORE. WHAT ARE WE ANTICIPATING? IT'S YEAH, IT I HAVE A SHEET THAT I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO ASK. BUT AGAIN, NO ONE'S HERE TO RESPOND TO THOSE. AND I WOULD JUST SAY, I MEAN, WE CAN TABLE THIS AND SEE IF SOMEBODY CAN SHOW UP AT THE NEXT MEETING. I MEAN, I KNOW THEIR THEIR CAMPAIGN SHOWS TO START ON SEPTEMBER 7TH, BUT WE HAVE A MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, SO I DOUBT THAT. SO IF IT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL, WE CAN ASK THEM TO SHOW UP ON THE EIGHTH WHERE YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. THAT WOULD BE MINE. SO IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD I MEAN, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S. IT IS A LOT. YEAH, I AGREE WITH I AGREE WITH Y'ALL. I MEAN. MAKE A LESSER PROPOSAL AND HAVE THEM COME BACK OR INSTEAD OF GIVE THEM MAKE SOMETHING ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK CASEY MAKES A SALIENT POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS A LARGE ASK FOR THE FIRST TIME ON SOMETHING. I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING IN THEIR EXPOSURE IS GROWING. AND I DEFINITELY THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, HELPS TO MAKE MIDLOTHIAN UNIQUE. IT IS A FUN, FAMILY FRIENDLY OUTING. I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OF THE GAMES AS WELL. THEY'RE THEY'RE A LOT OF FUN. IT'S, YOU KNOW, I GUESS AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET TO FEELING LIKE YOU'RE WATCHING A HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL GAME OUTSIDE OF HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF GUYS THAT ARE OUT THERE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT, NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY MAKING MONEY ON IT OR GETTING A SCHOLARSHIP OR NIL MONEY FOR IT. THEY JUST REALLY ENJOY WHAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR ME, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WADE THROUGH THE TAX CODE CHAPTER ON USE OF THESE FUNDS, AND IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE BRACKETED CHAPTERS IN STATE LAW IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COUNTIES AND CITIES AND NOT NAMING THEM BUT DESCRIBING THEM, VERY WEIRD. SO IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND. EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS FITS INTO THAT. AND SO THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR, FOR JOE IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISING FOR A SPORTS TEAM THAT IS PROMOTING VISIT MIDLOTHIAN, BUT IT'S REALLY ADVERTISEMENT FOR A SPORTS TEAM. WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TWO PART TEST THAT YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO PASS. AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, NOT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF THE TEST, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE AT LEAST ON ITS FACE, ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT SHOULD MEET THAT TWO PART TEST. SO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, LET'S SAY THE CITY OF ARLINGTON WANTS TO EXPAND HOT TAX MONEY TO HELP THE TEXAS RANGERS PROMOTE COME TO GLOBAL GROUP, AND THEN THAT THAT PARTICULAR GROUP IS GOING TO BRING TOURISM. THEY CALL HEADS AND BEDS INTO INTO THAT MUNICIPALITY. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE AN EXPENDITURE THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE. SO I'M DEFINITELY FINE WITH THAT PART CONCEPTUALLY, BUT I'M ALSO I KIND OF SEE CAYLEE CASEY'S POINT OF, YOU KNOW, DO WE CRAWL, WALK AND THEN RUN ON THIS THING VERSUS GOING STRAIGHT TO A RUN AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS? AND ALSO, I HOPE THIS IS FAIR. WE'VE HAD OTHER PROGRAMS BY OTHER. OTHER AREAS TO GIVE MONEY FOR ADVERTISING, AND IT'S BEEN LESS. I BE COMFORTABLE WITH 375 OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH WHAT I'VE SEEN OTHER MIDLOTHIAN COMPANIES GET FOR ADVERTISING AND MATCHING SOME SOME KIND OF MATCHING IF OTHERS ARE DOING IT.

YES, YOU KNOW, I'M THE SAME WAY. ONLY HESITANCY THAT I HAVE IS. LOOKING AT IT FROM 100% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN EVEN AT THAT, DO WE HAVE THE HOTEL SPACE FOR THAT, THAT QUICKER GROWTH? BUT, YOU KNOW, IS IT IS IT FIRE READY AIM OR IS IT

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READY? AIM, FIRE. AND, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION. WHAT I DO, I'M READING THROUGH THEIR, THEIR APPLICATION AND IT INDICATED THAT THEIR TOTAL AD SPEND IS PROJECTED AT 150,000. AND SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR A MATCHING GRANT FROM THE HOT TAX FUND OR INVESTMENT FROM THE HOT TAX FUND. BUT AGAIN, I, I, I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO SAY, HEY, LET'S TABLE IT. AND IF THEY WANT TO COME AND HELP US UNDERSTAND IT BETTER, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, RICHARD'S SUGGESTION EITHER. SO. ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE A PROPOSAL? FROM COUNCIL EITHER TO TABLE AND OR PROVIDE A DIFFERENT AMOUNT, IN MY OPINION, JUST TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO ACTUALLY ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT TO THE MOTION TO TABLE.

SEPTEMBER 8TH, NEXT MEETING. SECOND, SECOND, AND. FOR DELAY TILL SEPTEMBER 8TH FOR YOUR PROPOSAL TO DELAY UNTIL TABLE TILL SEPTEMBER 8TH. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. PLEASE VOTE.

AND THE PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RICHARD. IT'S LIKE RIDING A BIKE, ISN'T IT? YEAH. HE WAS QUICK TO JUMP UP THERE. SO IT WAS ONLY FAIR. OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM 289. CONSIDER AN ACT

[2026-289 Consider and act upon an ordinance approving the issuance and sale of "City of Midlothian, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2026 (Redden Farms Public Improvement District Improvement Areas #3-6 Projects)" and approving various documents related to such bonds.]

UPON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF THE SALE OF CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS SERIES 226 2026 AND APPROVING VARIOUS DOCUMENTS RELATING TO SUCH BONDS. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO EARLIER TONIGHT, YOU HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU HEARD AND APPROVED FOR THE MODIFICATION OF THE OR THE AMENDMENT AND RESTATEMENT OF THE ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLLS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT AREAS, THREE THROUGH SIX FOR RED AND FARMS. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE ISSUANCE OF. SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS. YOU WILL NOTE IN YOUR PACKET THAT THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE LEFT THE AMOUNT OF THE BONDS OPEN AND SO MARK MCLEAN WITH SAMCO IS HERE TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION ON THE BOND PRICING THAT WE RECEIVED ON THESE. ONE THROUGH THE OTHER OUTSIDE OF THE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION. WE TAKE YOU. ONCE YOU GET IT TO PAGE THREE. MY NAME IS MARK MCLENNAN. I'M SEEING IF ANYBODY FROM FMS IS HERE. I DON'T SEE THEM OR.

PARDON DANIEL. THERE HE IS. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. MARK MCLENNAN WITH SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS, YOUR PIT ADMINISTRATOR. DANIEL'S HERE. AND AND BRET AND DREADY. OKAY. PIT ADMINISTRATOR WITH P THREE. WHO'S WHO PUT TOGETHER THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN. IF YOU GO TO PAGE THREE, THIS IS TOUCHING ON THE BONDS THEY WENT OUT PRICED TODAY AT YOUR ALL'S DIRECTION.

THE INTEREST RATE ON THOSE YOU'LL SEE THREE MATURITIES CAME IN AT 4.875%, 5.65 AND A SIX COUPON WITH A 6.05 YIELD. PURCHASERS FOR THOSE BONDS WERE FIRST EAGLE, NUVEEN MUTUAL FUNDS, GOLDMAN SACHS AND FRANKLIN. THEY'RE BUYING THEM FOR A MUTUAL FUNDS FOR HIGH NET OR FOR HIGH YIELD PRODUCT. THESE BONDS ARE NON RATED. MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY ARE NON RECOURSE TO THE CITY'S TAXES SOLELY PAID FOR BY ASSESSMENTS BY THE PEOPLE AND FOLKS THAT LIVE AND OWN THE PROPERTY. THE SALE. AND YOU'RE HERE ON WHEN YOU COMPARE THEM TO THE CITY'S SALES INTEREST RATES ON NON RATED CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT TYPE BONDS QUITE A BIT HIGHER.

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THE TICK THE TRUE INTEREST COST. AND WE CAN USE THIS WHEN WE COMPARE IT TO THE CITY'S CAME IN AT 6.15%. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROCEED WITH THIS AND APPROVE THE SALE TO FMS. TAMMY.

ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS COUNCIL? QUESTIONS OF MARK OR AN. MOTIONS. AND WE DO HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION IN THE AGENDA ITEM. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF CITY. MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2026 RED AND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREAS. NUMBER THREE THROUGH SIX PROJECTS AND APPROVING VARIOUS DOCUMENTS RELATED TO SUCH BONDS. SECOND MOTION MADE BY MYSELF TO APPROVE. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 0. ITEM 2026 290. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A

[2026-290 Consider and act upon a resolution approving a Reimbursement Agreement - Redden Farms Public Improvement District Improvement Areas #3-6 Project and a First Amendment to Development Agreement between the City and Spur Redden Farms, L.P. in connection with the Redden Farms Public Improvement District]

RESOLUTION APPROVING A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. REDMOND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREAS THREE THROUGH SIX PROJECT AND A FIRST AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND SPUR REDMOND FARMS LP IN CONNECTION WITH THE REDMOND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. SO THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM HAS TWO PURPOSES. ONE IS TO APPROVE THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH REDMOND FARMS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. AND SO THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO YOUR ITEM, THE FIRST THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. THERE'S A REIMBURSEMENT FUND THAT'S CREATED TO REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER FOR ANY ACTUAL COSTS RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS IN AREAS THREE AND SIX, THIS REIMBURSEMENT FUND, SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER CITY FUNDS. AND IT'S HELD IT'S USED TO HOLD THE ASSESSED REVENUE UNTIL ISSUANCE AND DELIVERY OF THE BONDS. THAT IS THE FIRST COMPONENT. THE SECOND IS AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THERE'S THREE PRIMARY AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ONE IS INCREASING THE AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF ALL SERIES OF BONDS ISSUED TO BE ISSUED FROM. NOT HARD TO READ, TO BE ISSUED FROM A SHELL, NOT TO EXCEED OF 20 MILLION TO 22 MILLION. SO IT ALLOWS THEM TO ISSUE ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION BONDS, INCREASING THE MAXIMUM TAX EQUIVALENT ASSESSMENT RATE FROM 0.48 $0.05 PER 100 TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATION TO A, NOT TO EXCEED OF 0.54 PER $100. TAX ASSESSED VALUATION AND THEN LOWERING THE MINIMUM DENOMINATION ON WHICH THEY CAN ISSUE THE BONDS. TWO FROM 5000 TO $1000 INTERVALS. AND AGAIN ON THIS ONE, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THERE IS ALSO A SUGGESTED MOTION FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL. TAMMY. ANY SPEAKERS COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE. THIS IS PROBABLY MY QUESTIONS ARE RELEVANT FROM BEFORE. SO JUST JUST FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES THAT INCREASE OF THE MAXIMUM TAX EQUIVALENT EQUIVALENT ASSESSMENT RATE TO 0.54. MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THE VERBIAGE RIGHT. YES. DO YOU KNOW, I MEAN YEAH. SO WHAT WHAT IS WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF? I THINK IT'S JUST THE INCREASED COSTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED. AND THAT'S THE SAME THING. LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THE THE BOND CAP AS WELL. SO I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO 2220. HAVE THEY INDICATED THAT COST ESCALATION? ARE THEY DOING MORE AMENITIES? I THINK THE AMENITIES ARE VERY SIMILAR. I THINK IT'S COST ESCALATION. OKAY. ON BOTH OF THEM. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL ALSO MAKE THIS MOTION. I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. REDMOND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREAS, NUMBER THREE THROUGH SIX PROJECT AND A FIRST AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND SPUR REDMOND FARMS LP IN CONNECTION WITH THE REDMOND FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. SECOND MOTION MADE BY MYSELF, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CHESHIRE. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 0. ITEM 2026 291.

[2026-291 Consider all matters incident and related to the issuance and sale of "City of Midlothian, Texas, Tax Notes, Series 2026", including the adoption of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of such Notes and approving all other matters related thereto.]

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CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS TAX NOTE SERIES 2026, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH NOTES AND APPROVING ALL OTHER MATTERS RELATED THEREUNTO. AND AGAIN ON THIS, I'LL BE FAIRLY BRIEF. THIS IS. WAS APPROVED THE AUGUST 11TH, 2026 COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE SALE OF THE TAX NOTES. THE ORIGINAL PRINCIPAL AMOUNT THAT WAS APPROVED WAS 11,185,000. THIS WAS ALSO A NEGOTIATED SALE, SO MARK HAS THE ACTUAL PRICING ON THESE AS WELL. AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM. I THINK. THANK YOU. MARK MCLARNEY WITH SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR. TODAY, AT YOUR DISCRETION, WE WENT OUT AND PRICED CITIES BONDS GENERAL OBLIGATION $21,175,000 AND $11,185,000. WE'RE HANDING OUT BOTH THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AS WELL AS THE BOND RATING. AND I WILL VERY QUICKLY SUMMARIZE THE BOND RATING AND SOME OF THE INPUT. I GOT DOUBLE A PLUS SECOND HIGHEST POSSIBLE RATING THAT WE CAN GET. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. TRIPLE A RATING IS, IS THE GOLD STANDARD. US CAN PRINT MONEY. THEY'RE TRIPLE A WE CAN'T PRINT MONEY. AND WE'RE DOUBLE A PLUS ONE NOTCH BELOW. VERY VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR BOND PURCHASERS. ONE OF THE BIG IMPORTANT THINGS THAT STANDARD AND POOR'S CONCLUDES IS BOTH WHAT THE STAFF AND WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES WITH YOUR ASSETS, HOW YOU MANAGE, WHAT YOU'RE ALL ARE DOING, HOW YOU CONTINUE TO PUT MONEY ASIDE AND TAKE THESE PROJECTS AND MOVE THEM FORWARD VERY PROFESSIONALLY. THEY THEY STANDARD AND POOR'S AGAIN, HAS TO BE COMPARING YOU VERSUS EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY. AND YOU COMPARE VERY, VERY FAVORABLY WITH SPECIAL CONSIDERATION ON HOW WELL STAFF AND COUNCIL MANAGE THE CITY AND HOW YOU'VE DONE MANAGING THE FAST GROWTH THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH. SO THAT'S REALLY KUDOS TO YOU BECAUSE OF THAT, IT REALLY DRIVES INTEREST IN YOUR BONDS. SO WE JUST SAW A NON-RATED BOND SOLD AT 615. THESE BONDS YOU'LL SEE THE THE TICK ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, THE VERY BOTTOM, THE TICK FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS CAME IN AT 4.332. TICK IS TRUE INTEREST COST. THAT'S YOUR AVERAGE BORROWING COST. THE TICK. AND WE RAN THE NUMBERS PRELIMINARY AT FOUR AND THREE QUARTERS. THE TICK ON THE TAX NOTES CAME IN AT 3545. AND WE RAN THOSE AT 4.5% TOTAL VERSUS OUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS LOWER ABOUT 1,000,004. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE MAXED OUT YOUR TARGET TAX RATE YEAR ONE, LEAVING THE LATTER YEARS LOWER DEBT SERVICE. YOU'LL SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND COLUMN. THE SECOND NUMBER THERE IS THE INS TAX RATE THAT YOU ALL ARE PROJECTING TO USE. AND NEXT YEAR, THE FOLLOWING YEAR IT DROPS NEARLY IN HALF. AND THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT. ON THE BOND ELECTION THAT HAS BEEN CALLED FOR NEXT YEAR. SO IT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT IF THE COUNCIL AND I MEAN, IF THE CITIZENS APPROVE, IT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A TAX RATE CHANGE. ALL WHAT YOU ALL DIRECTED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO AWARD THE BONDS TO FROST BANK. THEY'RE THE SYNDICATE, THE LEAD UNDERWRITER FOR THESE BONDS.

AND THEY DID DO A VERY GOOD JOB ON, ON SELLING THESE BONDS TODAY. AND I'LL ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RATING OR THE ACTUAL ANALYSIS, THAT HURTS HERE. I'D JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE GEO BOND PORTION, THE 21 MILLION PLUS THAT WAS VOTER APPROVED IN THE 2021 ELECTION. ANYBODY THAT'S FOLLOWING ALONG COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF MARK ROSS, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY SINCE SINCE THE ACTUAL FINAL ALL IN RATES CAME IN LOWER THAN WHAT THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ESSENTIALLY MAKE ADDITIONAL

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PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS IN THE FIRST YEAR TO REDUCE THE OVERALL INTEREST BURDEN THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THESE FINANCING VEHICLES. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE? THERE IS A SUGGESTED MOTION ON THE ON THE AGENDA SHEET. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE TEXAS TAX NOTES SERIES 2026 AND APPROVING ALL OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SHEFFIELD. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU MARK AGAIN. THEN WE.

ANOTHER ITEM IS THE GEO BOND. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SORRY. STAY CLOSE THEN. LET ME READ IT.

[2026-292 Consider all matters incident and related to the issuance and sale of "City of Midlothian, Texas, General Obligation Bonds, Series 2026", including the adoption of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of such Bonds and approving all other matters related thereto.]

2026 292 CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE SALE OF CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2026, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS AND APPROVING ALL MATTERS THEREON TO AN. AND AS THE MAYOR JUST SAID, THESE ARE THE GEO BONDS. THIS IS THE REMAINDER OF THE 2021 BOND ELECTION. MONEY THAT WE HAD THAT WAS AUTHORIZED AND UNISSUED. SO THIS WILL CLOSE OUT, AS I CALL IT, THE 2020 BOND BOND ELECTION. SO AND YOU ALREADY HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS COMBINED WITH THE TAX NOTES. BUT MARKER ARE HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK. TAMMY. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS. I JUST HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO THE 2021 BOND. OBVIOUSLY, THIS 21 MILLION 175 THAT WAS APPROVED FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS IS NOT YET DEPLOYED. I KNOW WE'RE HOPEFULLY GETTING VERY CLOSE ON DEPLOYING THE THE REC CENTER FUNDS THAT WERE ISSUED LAST YEAR, WHAT OTHER FUNDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED BUT NOT DEPLOYED AT THIS POINT? WELL, SOME OF THE STREET BONDS BECAUSE LIKE MOCKINGBIRD, THE FRANCHISE UTILITIES ARE RELOCATING. SO WE'LL BID THAT PROJECT VERY SOON. SO THOSE MONIES WE HAVE, I GUESS TO YOUR POINT, THEY WOULD BE DEPLOYED ONCE THAT BID CAME TO FRUITION. OKAY. AND SO THIS REMAINDER STREET AMOUNT, WHICH IS THIS FOR THE MCALPIN, THIS WILL BE FOR MCALPIN AND 14TH STREET AND ACTUALLY HAYES ROAD. OKAY, PERFECT. THE NORTHERN PART JUST NORTH OF 1387. AND DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THOSE PROJECTS WILL DEPLOY IN 27 OR BEFORE THE END OF 26? WELL, IT I THINK IT'S DEPENDING ON RIGHT OF WAY AS WHICH IS NORMALLY THE THE HOLDUP. BUT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING DOWN TOWARDS THE LAST FEW PARCELS ON MCALPIN. IF THOSE GO MORE QUICKLY, THEN YES, WE STILL ARE WORKING ON RIGHT OF WAY FOR 14TH STREET BRIDGE, HAYES ROAD, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT'S DEVELOPER DRIVEN, BUT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD. AND WHERE DO WE THINK WE'RE AT ON THE REC CENTER PROJECT? I KNOW YOU LOVE US ASKING. WELL, NOW I THINK WE'RE GETTING I WANT TO CROSS MY FINGERS. I THINK WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE ON THE, THE, THE LEGAL AGREEMENTS. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO HOPEFULLY DO QUICKLY IS BRING THOSE AGREEMENTS TO YOU. I THINK ONCE WE GET THOSE SOLIDIFIED, THEN WE CAN GET TO THE DESIGN, BUILD RFP AND GET THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT GOING. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, I WOULD I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT ON SEPTEMBER 8TH THE DESIGN BUILD FOR IT. NO I'M SORRY. THE THE CONTRACTS. YES. ALL RIGHT.

MOTIONS ON THIS CASE. THERE'S A RECOMMENDED MOTION IN THE PACKET AS WELL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2026 AND APPROVING ALL OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO.

SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN WEAVER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CHESHIRE. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASS SIX ZERO. THANK YOU MARK. THANK YOU. AN COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION

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THIS EVENING. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE EXECUTIVE SESSION. ITEMS ARE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION, BUT ANY AND ALL ACTION IS TAKEN IN REGULAR OPEN SESSION. TONIGHT WE ARE DOING NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS SECTION FIVE 51.071 LEGAL CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING BOND PROPOSITION. SO AT ALL RIGHT. IT IS 9:11 P.M. WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE IS NO ACTION AS A RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO AT

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