May 12, 2020 City Council

[Call to Order, Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance]

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NORRELL. GOOD EVENING IT'S 6:00 P.M.

TUESDAY MAY THE 12TH. WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL PRESENT.

I NOW CALL THIS MIDLOTHIAN CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

PASTOR RAY MILLER WILL LEAD US IN INVOCATION.

HE'S ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY CHAPLAINS AND HE IS A MEMBER OF

GOD'S HOUSE. >> THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

FATHER WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO PRAY AND WE THANK YOU FATHER SAID IF WE DESIRED TO HAVE WISDOM WE SHOULD ASK BECAUSE YOU WOULD GIVE GENEROUSLY TO ALL WHO ASKED FOR WISDOM. I PRAY FATHER THAT WILL BLESS THESE MEN WITH DEVINE WISDOM. GRANT TO THEM THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON THAT IN EVERY DECISION THEY WILL KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT WHAT IS THE RIGHT DECISION AND I PRAY YOU WILL BLESS THEM WITH THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT ALWAYS.

FATHER, THANK YOU FOR EACH OF THEM, THANK YOU FOR BLESSING THEM. THANK YOU FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO GIVE OF THEIR TIME, THEIR ENERGY, THEIR PERSONAL RESOURCES TO LEAD THIS COMMUNITY. AND I PRAY, FATHER THAT YOU WILL ANOINLT THEM BY YOUR HOLY SPIRIT THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL ALWAYS BE A GOD HONORING COMMUNITY WHERE YOUR NAME THE REVERED A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU WILL PLACE YOUR NAME WHERE YOU LIVE AND BLESS AND WE THANK YOU, FATHER IN JESUS NAME AMEN.

>> EVERYBODY SAY IT. AMEN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. PHIL NUMBER 2020-139 CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. THE CITY COUNCIL INVITE CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZENS PARTICIPATION FORM AND PRESENT TO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING, SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, THE COUNCIL CANNOT TAKION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS? NO CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. CONSENT AGENDA.

[Consent Agenda]

>> MOTION. MOTION APPROVED.

SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 6-0. THANK YOU.

[Item 2020-142]

THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY EAST OF ONWARD ROAD AND PLUS OR MINUS 1,520 FEET NORTH OF MOCKING BYRD ROAD.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBERS.

PARK SITE NORTH GROP LOCATED NORTH OF PARKSIDE ESTATESES APPROVED BACK IN MARCH 10TH OF THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO CORRECT THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH FROM 130 FEET DOWN TO 120 FEET.

120 FEET WAS THE AN PRI KANT REQUEST THROUGHOUT THIS REVIEW PROCESS. BUT WAS INCORRECTLY MARKED ON THE ORDINANCE AT 130. ALL OF DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED. AS YOU CAN SEE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN THE DEPTH FOR PARK SIDE IS 120 FEET.

THE ROADWAY KNOWN AS SUMMER LANE AND LOT ONE IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WERE ALWAYS MEANT TO ALIGN.

WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. NOTIFICATION WERE PROVIDED TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS TO DATE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES FROM THOSE PROPERTY OBERS.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA ITEM.

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>> TYPO GRAPHCAL ERROR. NOTHING CHANGE M

>> YES, SIR. >> JUST TO CONFIRM NEW DEVELOPMENT MATCHES THE OLD DEVELOPMENT.

>> YES, SIR. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND. >> CLOSE.

SECOND. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> YES. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM IS CLOSED. YOU HAVE MOVED APPROVED ON THE SECOND. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

[Item 2020-143]

>> OPEN ITEM 2020-143. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD OF PD9 RELATED TO NUMBER OF UNIT AND PARKING SPACES AS ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 2016-31.

THANK YOU MAYOR APPLICANT SEEKING TWO AMENDMENTS TO THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. ONE IS INVOLVING THE NUMBER OF UNITS. THE OTHER AMENDMENT INVOLVES THE AMOUNT OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.

IT'S LOCATED ON THE MAP. LOCATED CORNER OR NEAR THE CORNER OF GEORGE HOPPER AND 14TH STREET.

ON THE SCREEN YOU SEE BREAKDOWN OF THE CHANGE AS BEING REQUESTED. THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THE OWNER HAD SOUGHT MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE OVERALL BUILDING FOOTPRINT WHICH ACTUALLY INCREASED THE UNIT COUNT FOR BOTH THE ASSISTED AND INDEPENDENT LIVING SIZE.

THE CITY WAS COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF THIS ADDITIONAL ADDED UNIT.

OF THESE ADDITIONAL ADDED UNIT AND NOT NOTIFIED OF THE CHANGE UNTIL AFTER THE CO WAS ISSUED. IN ADDITION.

THE AMOUNT OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT SHOWN IN THE ORDINANCE.

THE PARKING CHANGES ARE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO JUSTIFY IN THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE ACTUALLY DOES PROVIDE RELIEF.

AS MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SPACE IS ALLOWED TO EXCEED 25% OF THE MINIMUM REQUIRED. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASEN WITH 202 PARKING SPACES THAT ACTUALLY DOES NOT EXCEED THAT THRESHOLD.

THEREFORE ACTUALLY DOES NOT VIOLATE THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES PERMITTED BY ORDINANCE.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING THAT ONE ADDITIONAL ENCLOSED GARAGE THAT THEY ALREADY INSTALLED OR HAVE BUILT THAT, THAT ACTUALLY BE COUNTED FOR THE TWO LOSSES OF THE TWO COVERED PARKING SPACES THAT SHOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN INSTALLED.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APATROL OF THE AMENDMENTS REQUESTED.

WITH THE CONDITION THAT ALL 26 COVERED SPACES BE INSTALLED AS ORIGINALLY REQUIRED UNDER THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.

ON THE 21ST OF APRIL 21. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA ITEM AS PRESENTED BUT WITHOUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S VOTE OF 6-0.

WITH THAT I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> YOU 26 COVERS SPACES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT.

YOU ONLY HAVE 24 THERE? >> WELL, YES, SIR.

MR. SIBLEY, THEY ACTUALLY ONLY BUILT 24.

ORDINANCE ASKED FOR 26. THEY ONLY BUILT 24 OF THOSE COVERED SPACES. THEY WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BUILD 17 BUT ABUILT 18. THEY INCLUDED ONE ADDITIONAL GARAGE IN THIS. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK IN THE END.

AND I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WE WERE LOOKING AT IF ANYTHING ELSE THEY SHOULD STILL PROVIDE THE 26 COVERED PARK IT SPACE AS FAR UNIT ARE CONCERNED TO OUR KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE ALWAYS SEEN 45LYING IN THE ASSISTEDLY AND 90 WAS THE MAXIMUM SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THE INDEPENDENTLYING SECTION.

THE APPLICANT DID COME WITH SIX ADDITIONAL INDEPENDENT LIVING SPACE AND THEY DID CREATE ONE ADDITIONAL ASSISTEDLY LIVING RO AS WELL. .

>> I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER DAVID IS HERE.

>> WOULD YOU COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS HAPPENED.

>> AND GIVE YOU NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

>> I'M OWNERSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

I WAS HERE AT THE ORIGINAL PLANNING DEVELOPMENT COUPLE OF YEARS BACK. MY ADDRESS 7324 MANOR WAY.

UNFORTUNATE THIS OVERSIGHT THAT DIDN'T GET SEEN UNTIL THE END.

THEY DID A WALK AND THEY NOTICED COMPARING THAT AGAINST THE APPROVED PLANNING ZONE AND IT CAUGHT US ALL BY SURPRISE.

IT'S EARLY. NOT TO SAY AN EXCUSE.

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PLAN WAS SET WE HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ASSISTED LIVING UNIT.

THAT GOT APPROVED. THE DESIGN WAS OFF.

CONCEPTUAL DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, OWNERSHIP. AND ARCHITECTS FOUND MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO LAY OUT THE SPACES ADD THE COUPLE OF UNITS.

MY JOB SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT TO YOU.

LIKE I SAID FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT ITS POST CONSTRUCTION AND FIRST THING I DID -- WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU GUYS.

WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. >> EXACTLY THIS.

IT'S AN AMENDMENT. IT WILL BE A PROCESS FOR SURE.

WE HAVE TO DO THE AMENDMENT. AND SO PUT ALL THE APPLICATIONS IN. START THE PROCESS.

>> I HAVE ONE. YOU SAID IT WAS 60.

WAS THAT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

>> EXACTLY. THAT THE ALLOWING THEM TO STILL KEEP THE 24 COVERED SPACES. THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO KEEP THE 24 COVERED SPACES NOT INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL TWO

COVERED SPACES. >> MY NEXT QUESTION.

WHO DOES THE COVERED PARKING GO TO?

>> IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE INDEPENDENT LIVING AND IT'S THE WE DON'T -- OUR ASSISTED LIVING DON'T DRIVE MUCH.

WE PROBABLY 90 SOMETHING% OR DRIVERS ARE EITHER INDEPENDENTLY INDEPENDENTLYING. SAME WITH GARAGES.

GARAGES GO TO INDEPENDENT LIVING.

>> MAY I ASSUME CORRECTLY THIS IS NOT MATERIAL ISSUE.

>> NOT A MATERIAL ISSUE. >> NO.

ACTUALLY THE BUILDING LOOKS GREAT.

IN THE ALL AGE RESTRICTED. SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT.

I GUESS NOW WE'RE AT THIS POINT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DO WE CHECKS AND BALANCES I'M ASSUMING IN PLACE THROUGH THE CO PROCESS WHERE WE NORMALLY WOULD CATCH SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT JUST

HAPPENED TO MISSION THIS ONE? >> YEAH.

ONCE IT LEAVES THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

WE LOOK AT IT FROM OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

THEY INITIALLY GIVE US A SITE PLAN.

LIT CALL OUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

THE FACED. I WILL HAVE THE ELEVATIONS WE'LL HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND THEY ADHERE TO EVERYTHING ELSE. BECAUSE NORMALLY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL GO OUT THERE, LOOK AT LANDSCAPING.

WE DON'T UNIT COUNT PER SE LIKE WE DON'T WALK INTO THE BUILDING AND ACTUALLY DO A UNIT COUNT. BUT THE PLANS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT THAT'S SOMETHING THEY DO LOOK AT. AND I THINK THEY ACTUALLY USE A THIRD PARTY. TO DO THE ACTUAL REVIEW.

SOMEHOW SOME WAY I GUESS THIS GOT MISSED SOMEWHERE IN THAT PRO PROCESS. BUT, AGAIN, I THINK THE REASON STAFF IS KIND OF BACKING THE ASSISTED LIVING AND THE INDEPENDENT INCREASE BECAUSE AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL AGE RESTRICTED UNITS. ADDITIONAL ASSISTEDLYING UNIT.

WE KNOW THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT. JUST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

>> >> WE CAME HERE FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. YOU COULD ONLY GO TO THIS AND DON'T EXCEED IT. WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU.

IT WAS APPROVED AS REQUESTED. I WORKED WITH OTHER CITIES AS WELL TOO. THEY DON'T WANT US TO GO OVER A CERTAIN CAP. AND WE BOTH KNEW THIS WAS ORIGINAL PROJECTED WAS 45 AND 90 AND UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THAT. I APOLE GOAPOLOGIZE.

>> THE OVERALL BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS THE SAME.

>> EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT? >> WE HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNITS. I DON'T THINK WE ADDED UNIT TYPES. WE MAYBE LIKE TEN DIFFERENT INDEPEN INDEPENDENTLYING

-- INDEPENDENT LIVING. >> HOW DID THIS GET CAUGHT.

I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT?

>> APPLICANT BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION.

>> THAT'S A BIG PLUS. APPLICANT BROUGHT TO US.

MAKES IT HARD ON ME TO CORRECT THE WHIP ON THIS TOO HARD.

THEY OWNED UP TO IT. I'M ALSO CURIOUS IF IT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN CAUGHT WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN -- A AND THIS MAY BE ASKING TOO MUCH. I ASSUMED PERHAPS WHEN MAYBING

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I DON'T KNOW OF A LOT OF OTHER APPLICANTS THAT WOULD EVER SAY ANYTHING. MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT THROUGH THE TAX ROLE SOMEHOW OR SOMETHING.

BUT IT DOESN'T LIKE THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PROJECT CHANGED. IT MAY HAVE NEVER GOTTEN CAUGHT.

>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. I MEAN, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, ONCE THEY GETS INTO THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS SIDE THESE GUYS ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING -- OUR INSPECTOR GO OUT TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE BUILT CORRECTLY AND BUILT TO CODE.

I COULDN'T VERIFY THEY ARE ACTUALLY COUNTING THOSE UNITS AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THERE'S SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT HAPPEN AT THAT POINT.

ALTHOUGH THIS BEING A COMMERCIAL -- IT'S EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S RESIDENTIAL. IT'S BUILT TO COMMERCIAL STANDARD. I DON'T KNOW, COLLIDE IF YOU KNOW -- I THINK WE HAVE WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY.

>> AS WELL AS REVIEW. >> IT'S A THIRD PARTY.

IT'S PROBABLY JUST A BREAK DOWN OF OUR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PLANNING AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT COMMUNICATION. I DON'T THINK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT NECESSARILY WOULD LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT UNIT COUNT.

THIS COULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT BY REFINANCING.

>> I GUESS WHAT I'M STATING IS I DO PLACE SOME RESPONSIBILITY UPON THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT WE BARE RESPONSIBILITY ALSO. I'M JUST TRYING -- ASSUME THAT WE TURN IF WE DON'T HAVE INTERIM STAGES WHERE WE HAVE A WEEK REVIEW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD CATCH THESE. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHY WOULD I BRING THIS UP. WE HAVE ENOUGH GOING ON.

BUT ALSO MAKES IT HARD TO SAY, WELL, SHAME ON THEM WHEN WE'RE NOT INVOLVED AND THEY -- LIKE TO THANK YOU FORREN EVEN -- EVEN BEING MAN ENOUGH FOR SAYING WE GOOFED UP.

>> WE DO NEED TO INCREASE OUR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN BUILDING PLANNING. THAT WOULD HAPPEN POST DRC.

AS SOON AS SOMETHING GETS THROUGH COUNCIL AND ONCE THE PLAN COMES IN. GET BACK TOGETHER AND REVITS THOSE ORIGINAL PLANS. MAKE SURE THEY --

>> ON THE PROJECT LIKE THIS, IT'S RUNNING THROUGH THE THIRD

PARTY SYSTEM FOR REVIEW. >> YES, SIR.

>> FOR THE PURPOSE OF TURNING LOOSE THE PERMIT.

>> YES, SIR. >> ISSUANCE.

ONCE IT GOES PAST THAT POINT ARE ALL THE INSPECTION PROCESS AND EVERYTHING HANDLE BY OUR IN-HOUSE STAFF.

NOT NECESSARILY. THE LARGER PROJECTS ARE HANDLE BY VB. THIS PROJECT IT TOOK PROBABLY TWO YEARS TO BE BUILT. THIS THE A LONG, LONG BUILDING PROCESS. AND I THINK WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF SUPERINTENDENTS ON THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS THAT WE COULD HAVE DROPPED THE BALL AND OUR COMMUNICATION WITH VP COULD HAVE BEEN --

>> I DON'T KNOW IT'S NECESSARILY DROPPED THE BALL.

WHEN WE EVEN IN MY OWN BUSINESS WHEN I HAVE THIRD PARTY SOURCES.

I OULZ FOUND I HAD MUCH MORE MEETING TO HAVE BETTER SO WE DON'T MESS UP. UNINTENTIONALLY.

I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WAS DONE WRONG.

THEY WERE JUST LOOKING AT CODE. WE WOULD HAVE BRING ATTENTION.

THERE SHOULD BE 96 UNITS. THEY ARE REALLY LOOKING TO BUILD TO CODE. ARE PIPES HOOKED UP.

THE BUILDING SOUND. THEY WILL NOT LOOK AT SPECIFICS

AS FAR AS UNIT COUNT. >> WORKING THROUGH MULTIFAMILY I'VE DONE ALL OF O ALL THEY CARE AT THE END NINE SMOKE DETEBLTHORS IN THIS ROOM. THEY DON'T DOESN'T FRONT DOORS.

THAT'S PART OF THEIR. SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE SOMEONE CHANGED THE WALLS COUPLE OF WALLS TO GET 8 INCHES EXTRA.

THEY ENDED UP WITH FOUR EXTRA ROOMS. THAT'S EASY TO DO. AND NOT GET CAUGHT BY ANYBODY.

. >> WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED.

>> I WANT TO DRESS I-- STRESS. I'M NOT WANTING TO CATCH ANYONE.

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I'M ONLY STATING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD FINAL TALLY OR FINAL SOURCE OVERWEIGHT ACCOUNTABILITY, WE HAVE TO BE SOMEWHAT LIABLE FOR THAT ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS

COMMUNICATION. >> I MOVE WE.

SECOND. MOTION TO CLOSE HEARING.

AND SECOND. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> SECOND.

ARE YOU GOING WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION?

>> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE THE COUNCIL TO DO?

>> WELL FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WE THOUGHT THERE COULD BE CONDITION COVERED PARKING BE ADHERED TO.

AGAIN, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID NOT INCLUES THAT CONDITION. SO AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS. KIND OF FLOATING OUT THERE.

>> WHAT WHAT WOULD BE THE GAIN IN REQUIRING THE COVERED PARKING? IT GETS CLOSER TO WHAT THE ORDINANCE WAS SAYING THEY NEEDED TO DO.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

>> I MEAN, ME PERSONALLY, I'M -- I'M APPRECIATIVE THEY CAME FORWARD. I -- I CAN SEE WHAT HE STATED IN MY MY OWN CASE. I WANT FOLKS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING WE GOOFED UP. WHEN SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOES MATTER. WHICH THIS MATTERS.

DON'T GET ME WRONG. WHEN IT'S SOMETHING REAL IMPORTANT WE BEEN NOTIFIED AND WE CAN MAKE THE NECESSARY

ADJUSTMENTS. >> THAT'S MY OTHER THOUGHT.

DOES THE EXTRA GARAGE. >> IT'S AN EXTRA GARAGE.

>> I'M HAPPY MYSELF. >> PNZ OR THE CITY?

>> PNZ OR STAFF. IF YOU GO WITH STAFF THEY WILL

BUILD ANOTHER -- >> P AND Z.

>> WHAT IS THE MOTION? >> TO APROVE.

APPROVE WHAT? >> APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE ALL THE STUFF IN RED; RIGHT? THAT THE CORRECT.

YES, SIR. AS IS.

>> A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED BY P AND Z.

SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

[Item 2020-144]

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> PD34 WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 2006.

AND CONSISTED OF 66.3 ACRES. AS YOU CAN SEE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO EXPAND THAT BOUNDARY AND ADD AN ADDITIONAL 38.89 ANGERS INTO THIS SAME PD. ALONG WITH THIS BOUNDARY EXPANSION THE APPLICANT REQUESTING SPECIFIC CHANGES RELATED TO GARAGE ORIENTATION. LOT SIZES.

SET BACKS, ROOFS USABLE PARK AREA.

A ARCHITECTURAL LANDSCAPING.

ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THIS PD IS OVERALL LOT COUNTS. AND THAT'S GOING FROM AS THE PD CURRENTLY STATE ALL NOW. 151 LOT.

THEY ARE ASKING TO INCREASE TO 282 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

IN ADDITION THEY WOULD ALSO BE ADDING A SECOND PARK THAT WOULD BE LOCATED NEAR THE LAKE AREA. THE 38 ACHOR OF AGRICULTURE LAND A PART OF THIS ZONING REQUEST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES INDICATE THIS PROPERTY LOCATIONED IN WHAT WE CALL THE SUBURBAN MODULE LOW DENSITY SUBURBAN MODULE.

REQUIRES MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 20,000 SQUARE FEET PER LOT OF LARGER. PROPOSED LOT SIZES FOR THIS REZONE REQUEST WILL RANGE BETWEEN 7200 TO 14,000 SQUARE

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ALL RESIDENTIAL GARAGES SHOULD BE LOCATED TO THE REAR OF THE LOT WITH ALLEY ACCESS. AND GARAGE ENTRANCES SHOULD SET WELL BACK FROM THE FRONT OF THE FACED AS TO OBSCURE VIEWS OF THE GORAGE ENTRY. THAT'S WHAT IS WRITTEN IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OBVIOUSLY STAFF LOOKS AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BASED ON THE APPLICANT PROPOSAL LOT SIZES AND THE GARAGE ORIENTATION.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS CURRENTLY STATED.

ON THE SCREEN IS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN FOR PD-34 AS IT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. CURRENTLY.

NOTICE THE SOUTHERN LOCATION OF THE VILLA WHICH CONSIST OF 26 LOTS. THOSE LOTS RANGE FROM 16,000 TO 20,000. THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ON THE HOOK FOR BUILDING RIGHT NOW. THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN ALL FOUR SECTIONS THAT WILL BE THE ESTATES THE VILLAS THE PARKS THE LAKES.

AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THIRD PHASE HAS GONE FROM THAT'S IN THE VILLAS. THAT WOULD NOW BE CONVERTED TO THE PARKS. AND THAT WOULD GO FROM THE 26 LOTS THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BUILD.

TO 55 LOTS. AND THOSE 55 LOTS RANGE FROM 7200 TO 13,000 OR ALMOST 14,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE LAKES OF SUMMER CREST THAT WILL ALSO CONTAIN 99 NEW LOTS.

THEY RANGE FROM 7200 TO 13,000 SQUARE FEET AS WELL.

>> THIS SLIDE HERE THIS THE ACTUALLY SHOWN IN THE LAKES AREA. THIS WILL ADDAIN ADDITIONAL FOUR ACRES USABLE OPEN SPACE WITH THE CABANA AND PARKING AREA FOR RESIDENTS. THE VILLAS WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH THAN THIS THAT HAS ABOUT TWO ACRES OF COMMON SPACE WITH THE PAVILION. THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN TRAIL.

THERE'S ALSO A PARKING AREA. OVERALL, IF YOU INCLUDE THE FLOODPLAIN ALSO YOU LOOK AT ABOUT 13 ACRES OF PARK SPACE THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

SO ON THE SCREEN ARE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.

I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE.

KIND OF COVERING AN OVERVIEW IT. THE FRONT YARDS LOOKING INSTEAD OF BEING 21 FOOT SET BACK LOOKING AT REDUCING TO 20 FEET.

GARAGE DOORS. THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGER CHANGES THAT WE HAVE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE VILLAS ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE 20% FRONT ENTRY. OVERALL THE APPLICANT WILL BE ASKING FOR 72% FRONT ENTRY. WHEN WE WENT TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THEY PERMITTED UP TO 40% FRONT ENTRY.

WE WILL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT LATER.

THEY ALSO ASK REMOVE GABLE REQUIREMENTS THEY ALSO ADDING THE OPEN SPACE. YOU LOOK AT AGAIN ADDITIONAL FOUR ACRES OF LAND. THIS SHOWS THE GENERAL LOT CHANGES AND SIZE. 151 LOTS WHAT THEY REQUIRED TO DO RIGHT NOW. THEY WOULD BE ASKING FOR 282 LOTS OVERALL. ARC T ARTECH CHERL STYLE.

THAT STAYS THE SAME. CUSTOM DEVELOPMENT.

AFTER 12 LOTS CAN HOME ACTUALLY REPEAT ITSELF.

WHICH AGAIN REALLY CREATES CUST ONLY DEVELOPMENT YOU DON'T FIND THAT A LOT IN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. THIS IS VERY UNIQUE.

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE TRYING TO CLARIFY

AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING. >> HOW MANY TREES WILL BE PLANTED. THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO DELETE THAT'S DUE TO STATE LAW CHANGES AND THEN ONE OF THEM MORE KIND OF DEALING MORE WITH CIVIL PLAN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT UTILITY BOXES JUST WASN'T REALLY NEEDED

TO BE IN THAT PD. >> SO NOTIFICATIONS GO OUT.

WE SEND TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN 200 FEET.

TO DATE STAFF HAS RECEIVED 27 WRITTEN NOTICES.

THOSE ARE ALL IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

REGARDING OUR RECOMMENDATION STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL.

YOU KNOW OF THIS REZONE REQUEST. THAT'S DOW DUE TO COMPREHENSIVE.

AREAS COULD CONTAIN MORE TRANSITIONAL LOTS.

COMPARED THOSE MORE URBAN STYLE TYPE LOTS THE APPLICANT PROPOSING. WE DO HAVE HERE THAT IF CITY COUNCIL DOES APPROVE THIS REQUEST THAT WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT FRONTAGE GARAGE BE PROHIBITED.

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ON THE 21ST THE AND Z APPROVAL FOR THE REQUEST.

FRONTAGE GARAGE NEED TO BE LIMITED TO 40%.

THAT WAS A VOTE OF 5-1. I PROVIDED ONE ADDITIONAL SLIDE.

I THOUGHT MAY HELP CLARIFY WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT GARAGE DOORS. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS VERY IT'S VERY DIRECT. IN SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY MORE FRONTAGE GARAGES. ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT STANDARD THEY DO ALLOW FOR AT LEAST 20%.

WITHIN OUR ACTUAL SECTION FIVE OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED US TO 65% FRONT ENTRY.

APPLICANT REQUEST IS MORE ALONG THE LINE OF 72%.

AND IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND 40 PERCENT. I KNOW THE APPLICANT HERE.

HE WANTS TO SPEAK. I HAVE SLIDES THAT COME AFTER THIS. THAT HE WANTS TO GO OVER AS WELL. SO I CAN EITHER TAKE THE COUNCIL'S QUESTION OR WE CAN HAVE APPLICANT COME UP AND

SPEAK. >> WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS.

>> THAT'S FINE. ACTUALLY I THINK APPLICANT ASKING IF THE SPEAKERS COULD ACTUALLY SPEAK BEFORE HE SPEAKS.

>> HE'S THE APPLICANT. I GOT FOUR SPEAKERS.

RUBIN REALS? PLEASE GIVE YOU NAME AND DRINK ELSE. RUBIN RIOSIST .

I CAME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SHAWN.

MOVED HERE TO SUMMER CREST WE BEEN LOOKING AROUND.

I'VE LIVED IN RED OAK. CEDAR HILL.

I LIVED IN DUNCANVILLE AND IN DALLAS.

WE FOUND THIS HOME MY WIFE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT FIRST.

THINK ABOUT THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE HOMES THAT SHAWN JACKSON BUILDS THEY ARE TRULY CUSTOM HOMES.

AND WE FEEL THAT WHEN WE MOVED IN.

WHEN YOU PAY HALF A MILLION FOR A HOME, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE CHOICES SUCH WHETHER YOU HAVE FRONT FACING GARAGE.

WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE A FRONT FACING GARAGE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

WE HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN WE WOULD.

I KNOW THAT MOST OF DECISIONS ARE MADE BASED ON SOME -- THEY HAVE SOME BASIS. I'M AN ATTORNEY I KNOW WHEN WE DEAL WITH MAKING DECISIONS THERE'S SOME REASON BEHIND IT.

YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT MY WIFE AND I.

IT CAN'T BE AESTHETICS. SHE'S SHOWN PICTURES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.

AND THE HOMES HE BUILDS. IT'S NOT A COOKIE CUTTER NEIGHBORHOOD. NONE OF THE HOMES LOOK-ALIKE.

THE FRONT FACING GARAGES THEY ALMOST DON'T LOOK LIKE GARAGES.

SO IT CAN'T BE AESTHETICS. I CAN'T BE UTILITY.

SO MANY FOLKS THATLY I KNOW IN OUR PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE ALL PLANNING TO RETIRE THERE.

WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON MOVING AGAIN.

WHEN YOU GET THERE, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF THAT PROPERTY IF YOU HAVE THE FRONT FACING GARAGE.

AGAIN, FOR US EYE BEEN MORE THAN HAPPY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

WITH SHAWN AND THE ABOUT THAT HE'S HAD TO MAKE US HAPPY AND TO BUILD. IST GOING TO BUILD HOME FIND A BUILDER. WE FOUND THIS HOME AND THIS WAS AS CLOSE TO PLAN I HAD IN MY HEAD AS I'VE EVER SEEN.

SO THERE'S NOTHING WITH REGARD TO ANY PART OF SUMMER CREST WHETHER YOU GO TO VILLA OR ESTATE THAT IS NOT FIRST CLASS.

THAT IS NOT TOP NOTCH. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL BRING THIS CITY NOTHING BY PRIDE.

AND THE KIND OF PEOPLE I THINK YOU WANT LIVING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE INTO THIS CITY BECOMING CITIZENS IN MIDLOTHIAN.

WHEN HE ASKED ABOUT THIS WE TALKED ABILITY I SAID IT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SHAWN JACKSON. MORE IMPORTANTLY ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ON BEHALF OF THE AESTHETICS.

ON BEHALF OF HAVING PEOPLE BEING ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT CHOICE TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN YOU SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY ON A CUSTOM HOME. I WON'T WASTE A LOFT YOUR TIME.

>> REAL QUICK QUESTION. YOU LIVE IN ESTATES?

>> WILY ON THE VILLAS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SHAWN JACKSON IN SUPPORT OF HIS PLAN. TO ALLOW ASK YOU GUYS TO ALLOW

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AS A MATTER OF FACT WE ALL PAID SOMEWHERE IN NEIGHBORHOOD OF HALF MILLION AND ABOVE TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE RESTRICTION ON WHAT GARAGE.

THEY ARE GORGEOUS. I DON'T WANT MY NEIGHBORS HOUSE TO LOOK LIKE MY HOUSE. THAT'S THE POINT OF CUSTOM NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LET PEOPLE CHOOSE THE WAY THEY WANT THEIR HOUSE TO LAID AND ALLOW CONCERNSES SAW YOU DON'T DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND SEE ALL OF THE SAME THING. YOU KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF HOUSES IN A ROW IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE GARAGE FACE THE SAME WAY. WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET FACING THE SIDE FACING GARAGE YOU STILL SEE ALL GARAGE DOORS.

YOU KNOW, STILL GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

WHETHER THEY ARE FRONT OR SIDE FACING.

IF YOU COME FROM ONE DIRECTION. YOU SEE ALL GARAGE DOORS.

THEY ARE GORGEOUS GARAGE DOORS. IT'S NOT AN AESTHETIC ISSUE.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT PLAN TO STAY FOREVER.

FRONT-FACING GARAGE IS EASIER, IF I HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN I WOULD PICK FRONT FACING. TRYING TO GET FULL-SIZE GARAGE SWING IN MACHING MORE MOVES TO GET INTO MY SIDE FACING GARAGE.

I COULD SEE ELDERLY HOW THAT WOULD BE A DEAL BREAKER FOR THEM. BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT I NEED IN THEIR CUSTOM BUILT HOME.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

SHERYL KAISER. NOW NAME ADDRESS.

SHERYL KAISER. 2201 MERIDIAN PLACE.

MY HUSBAND AND I MET WITH SHAWN ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND ASKED HIM TO BUILD OUR VILLA. AND HAVING THOROUGHLY EXAMINED THE HOA DOCS AND THE CCR'S WE FELT COMFORTABLE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD MAINTAIN IT'S HIGH STANDARDS FOR OUR DESIRE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. HAVING BEEN WITH SHAWN APPROXIMATELY FIVE DAYS A WEEK FOR THE LAST YEAR BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE THOROUGHLY COME TO UNDERSTAND HIS CHARACTER AND HIS INTEGRITY AND HIS DESIRE FOR PERFECTION.

AS CLOSE AS THAT COULD HAPPEN. WHEN HE PRESENTED TO US THE REASONING FOR WANTING TO HAVE MORE FRONT FACING GARAGES, WE KNOW THAT HE WHATEVER HIS NAME IS ON IS GOING TO BE UPHELD TO STANDARD THAT HAVE ALL RIGHT BEEN SET.

WE WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'RE IF SHAWN THINKS IT'S A GOOD THING.

OUR DESIRE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET BUILT OUT AND IF THE TREND IS PEOPLE WANTING FRONT FACING GARAGES WE DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM. WE KNOW THAT THE STANDARDS WILL BE MET. WE JUST APPRECIATE YOUR

CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. TROY PRIVY.

TROY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

2206 CHEYENNE DRIVE MIDLOTHIAN. I'M NOT ONLY A BUILDER BUT IN THIS SUMMER CREST SUBDIVISION BUT LIVE IN THE ESTATE SIDE.

THE BIGGEST I GUESS PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS ON THE VILLAS, BEING ABLE TO BILL A HOM WITH THE SIDE ENTRY GARAGES.

WE'VE RUN INTO A DESIGN PROBLEM. PEOPLE THAT DRIVE ANYTHING LARGER THAN A MID-SIZE CAR HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IN AND

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MY ARCHITECTS HAVING ISSUE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO DRAW THESE HOMES WITH THE FRONT SIDE ENTRY GARAGE WITH J-SWING.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH STRAIGHT-IN GARAGES AS FAR AS DESIGN.

THE GARAGES THEMSELVES FACING THE FRONT THEY LOOK NICE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE.

ALL THE DOORS ARE CUSTOM MADE CEDAR.

THEY COST OUT ABSENCE 3,000 A DOOR.

THEY ARE NOT YOUR TYPICAL METAL DOOR.

WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO BUILD MORE OF THE HOMES WITH THE STRAIGHT-IN GARAGES. THE HOMEOWNERS WANT THAT.

OUR MARKET HAS CHANGED. THAT SUBDIVISION HAS THE HIGHEST DEED RESTRICTION OF ANY SUBDIVISION IN TOWN.

AND I PERSONALLY HAVE TALKED TO ABOUT 80% OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE ESTATES SIDE AND THEY HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO IT.

OF COURSE THE PEOPLE IN THE VILLAS THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

STRAIGHT-IN ENTRY GARAGES OR SIDE ENTRY GARAGES HAPPEN ON CORNER LOTS. WE ASK WITH NUMBER OF LOTS WE HAVE LEFT WE NEED SOME HELP WITH BEING ABLE TO BUILD FRONT ENTRY GARAGES. THANK YOU, TROY.

>> RICHARD MELVIN SMITH. PARDON ME IF I CAN'T SAY THAT

QUITE RIGHT. >> YOU DID.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. SO I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO IT. YOUR NAME ADDRESS.

RICHARD SMITH. 2406 MIDLOTHIAN IN SUMMER CREST VILLA. I LIVE ON A CORNER LOT.

SO I HAVE A COURTYARD KIND OF ENTRY GARAGE.

I GUESS WHAT YOU CALL IT. SIDE ENTRY ON THE INSIDE.

AND GETTING CARS IN AND OUT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT AT TIMES. ESPECIALLY WHEN MY WIFE DRIVING IT IT'S LIKE THREE-POINT TURN AND THREE-POINT TURN TO GET OUT.

I LIVE ON THE CORNER LOT WHICH IS IDEAL FOR SOME SIDE ENTRY GARAGES. BUT MOST OF THE LOTS ARE PRETTY SMALL. AND YOU KNOW I THINK I THINK FOR GATED COMMUNITY HIGH END CUSTOM HOPE THEY ARE SMALLER HOMES.

I THINK YOU KNOW THE BUILDER AND THE CUSTOMER THE OWNER SHOULD HAVE SAY IN HOW THE HOUSE WILL BE LAID OUT.

IT'S SUCH A SMALL-SIZE LOT PRETTY MUCH DICTATES HOW THE HOUSE LAID OUT. I THINK MOST OF THE HOUSES IN THERE ARE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES. BUT IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO DRY STRAIGHT IN AND OUT. SOMETIMES I WISH I HAD OPTED FOR THAT. THAT'S ALL GOT TO SAY THAT WE NEED WE WILL NEED THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES AS MANY AS YOU CAN UNLESS IT'S A CORNER LOT OR MUCH LARGER LOT.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE NONSPEAKER IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL. THAT'S TONY SANDERS.

SHAWN? >> ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU NEED MY ADDRESS AND NAME AS WELL?

>> PLEASE. >> SHAWN JACKSON, 3830 SKINNER ROAD MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. I HAD MORE TO START OUT WITH THEY JUST KIND OF I DON'T WANT TO BORE WITH YOU.

THEY JUST HIT THE POINTS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP.

AND A LETTER OF THE REASONS WHY THAT I'M REQUESTING WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FIRST WANT TO GO OFF OF JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THIS IS NOT A NEW DEVELOPMENT. THIS ISN'T A NEW CONCEPT PLAN THAT I'M GOING TO COME UP WITH ONE DAY THIS THE ALREADY ON THE GROUND SUMMER CREST AS IT IS RIGHT NOW THERE'S ROUGHLY 52,

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JUST TO PUT IN THE NUMBERS, WITH THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S 15,000 A LOT. THAT I PUT IN, IN JUST AMENITIES. I DIDN'T PUT STREETS.

HAVEN'T PUT LANDSCAPE. THAT'S HOW MUCH MONEY I DEDICATED TO DO. I LIVE HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN.

I NEVER WOULD HAVE LOOKED HERE. I MOVED HERE NINE YEARS AGO.

I DIDN'T HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD I COULD BUILD A CUSTOM HOME.

. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WAS TRY TO FIND SOME LAND. I LOOKED AT ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND. I WISH I HAD THE OTHER PIECE.

LEDGESTONE WAS -- YOU KNOW IT'S A BIG CHUNK THAT GET TAKEN OUT.

BUT I DECIDED TO DO IT. AND DO IT RIGHT.

OR WE DON'T DO IT AT ALL. MY PRIMARY CONCERN PROBABLY SOUND CLICHE. I'M NOT IN IT TO MAKE MONEY.

I GUARANTEE YOU AT THIS POINT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SMARTER NOT TO BE SO PICKY ON WHO I LET BUILD IN HERE.

I COULD HAVE SOLD OUT SOONER. BUT I DID COME INTO WITH THIS ACTUALLY WITH NEW TREND THAT IS COMING.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY -- ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE WE DO HAVE 44 LOTS IN SUMMER CREST. THIS IS SUMMER CREST.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FRONT FACING GARAGES I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT I DON'T ALLOW FRONT FACING GARAGE ON ESTATE ON HALF ACRE LOTS. WE REQUIRE YOU TO BUILD THREE-CAR GARAGES THERE. THOSE HOMES ON THE ESTATE SIDE CURRENTLY THE LEAST EXPENSIVE ONE IS 650,000.

THERE'S ONE BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW FOR 1 MILLION AND A HALF.

THREE OTHERS THAT ARE MILLION IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING OR REQUESTING ANYTHING TO LESSON ANY OF THE THINGS THAT I STARTED OUTDOING.

I'M WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEHOW I GET THIS MORE SUCCESSFUL. BECAUSE I'VE WITH THESE ESPECIALLY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING -- THE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR SMALLER LOTS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE FULL CIRCLE. THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE STARTER HOME. IN THE SMALL LOT.

NOW THEY ARE -- THEY'VE MOVED TO HALF ACRE.

ACRE, FIVE ACRE HOUSE. NOW THEY WANT A SMALL YARD, WITH NO MAINTENANCE AND BUT THEY WANT THE HIGH QUALITY INTERIOR FINISH OUT OF THE HOUSE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT IN THE LAST I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS HAS HAPPENING.

I WAS KIND OF SCARED WHEN COVID-19 CAME OUT.

WE SOLD THREE LOTS THIS WEEK. PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT.

I THINK THE MINIMALISTIC PEOPLE DOWNSIZING.

ONE OF THE REASON I WANT THE DO THIS MORE AND MORE RESIDENT STRATEGIES, WE DID HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH THE MAYOR COUPLE DAYS AGO HE WOULD -- HE'S THE GURU ON MARKETING THAT BANKS GO TO. WHAT THE MARKET TRENDS ARE.

AND ALL OF THE I'M HOPING THAT HE WOULD COME FOR A SESSION AT SOME POINT. HE WOULD BE A GREAT PERSON TO HEAR FROM ON SOME CERTAIN THINGS.

BUT I'M ALSO THAT A LOT OF THE MILLENNIAL ARE GETTING AWAY AND COMING TO RURAL AREAS ESPECIALLY AFTER WHAT HAPPENED TO THE U.S.

JUST NOW. ESPECIALLY WITH THE NICE -- WHAT MIDLOTHIAN BRINGING WITH HIGHER END JOBS COMING IN.

AND I DID WANT TO TOUCH JUST REAL QUICK WHEN YOU MENTION -- I WANT TO BRING TWO ITEMS UP. THE ROOF PITCHES.

THE ORDINANCE SAID 812. MY CCR SAY 1012.

YOU PUT 812 PITCH IN, UNLESS IT'S A MEDITERRANEAN, IT COULD BE -- LESS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. WE WOULD GO DOWN TO AN 812 AND THEN WE DO HAVE A HOUSE IN ESTATE THAT WENT TO 612 BECAUSE IT WAS PRAIRIE HOUSE HE WANTED TO HAVE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS -- IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM SOME OF THE -- I'M MORE STRINGENT THAN WHAT IT IS IN OUR CC AND RS. AND I THINK THAT WE'LL JUST GO

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I'M WANTING TO BRING THE LAKES INTO SUMMER CREST.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE.

ONE OF THE ENTRIES. THE WATER FEATURE I DISCUSSED.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S GATED. COMMUNITY PRIVATE STREETS.

ANOTHER PICTURE. THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT THERE.

BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING NONE OF THOSE THERE WAS O IT'S OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE NOT FAMILIARIZED WITH SUMMER CREST AND I GOT KICKED IN THE GUT BY NOT PREPARING MORE FOR P AND Z. THIS IS PRETTY CURRENT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. IN FACT IT'S A GOOD -- DOES THIS

THING POINT OR NO? >> JUST ON THIS PLAN.

I BELIEVE THE FRONT FACING GARAGE IS BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I HERE FROM THE REASON FOR I GUESS I GOT FOR 40% IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING THESE HOUSES RIGHT HERE ON THE STREET.

RICK LIVES HERE. WHEN I TALKED ABOUT BEING ON THE CORNER. THE NEXT THREE HOME ARE FRONT-FACING GARAGES. I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS UNTIL I WENT FLEW THIS. I HAVE BUILT NINE HOMES IN THIS.

I DIDN'T DO THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR ME TO BUILD HOMES.

IT'S THE REASON FOR I'VE BEEN PICKY ON WHO I LET BUILD IN THERE. TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME HOMES ROLLING I WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT.

THINGS STARTED ROLLING A LOT BETTER.

THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE. THAT THIRD HOUSE FRONT FACING GARAGE. THAT LOT WAS REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE J-SWING ON THIS CURRENT DEVELOPMENT.

THE SETBACKS ARE STAGGERING IT'S 1, 18 AND 20 I BELIEVE.

IT GOES THROUGH AND BACK. THE ONES ON 16 AND 18 THOSE WERE REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE JAY SWINGS.

ONES THAT WERE 20. THOSE ARE FRONT FACING GARAGES.

WELL, TROY BUILT THAT HOUSE RIGHT FROM.

AND THEY DID NOT WANT AJAY SWING.

SO I DISCUSS PD SAID 20%. IT NEVER SPECIFIES THAT IT'S 16, 18 AND 20. I WILL ALLOW HIM TO DO FRONT FACING GARAGE ON DIFFERENT -- BUT THE GARAGE SETS BACK I THINK ON THAT ONE IS 121 FEET OR 20 FEET BUT THAT HOUSE IS 2300 SQUARE FEET. THEY CURL -- THEY DID LIVE IN SOMERSET. THEY PICKED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER LOTS. THE LESS MAINTENANCE.

AND I DID TALK WITH THEM -- WILL GIVE A PICTURE IN A MINUTE.

THAT HOUSE 2300 SQUARE FEET, 560,000.

THAT'S 235 A SQUARE FEET. WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE IN THE REALM OF THE REASON FOR ASKING FOR ANY OF THIS.

I FEEL LIKE I'M NEGOTIATING TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING.

WHEN I'M NOW THAT I'M DONE ALL THIS RESEARCH I'M WHY AM I NEGOTIATING WHEN I'M GIVING THE HIGHEST PER SQUARE FOOT HOME BY FAR. I'M A SMALL, SMALL DEVELOPER.

THIS IS A SMALL SMALL DEVELOPMENT.

EVEN WITH WHAT I'M ADDING I'M 282.

282 HOMES. NICEST HOMES IN 20 YEARS FROM NOW THAT MAKE SURE ABOUT THE CONTROL THE WALLS, THE MEDIAN HERE. I ASKED IF I COULD DO THAT MEDIAN. SPENT 45,000 TO MAKE SURE THAT MEDIAN WAS VERY TASTEFULLY DONE. I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT.

I ACTUALLY HAD TO -- FUNNY WHEN WHICH DO THIS.

I HAVE A FANCIER STOP SIGN AT LEDGESTONE AND MOUNT ZIO.

I WAS LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME.

IF SOMEONE HITS IT THEY WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THAT BACK UP. THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS TOLD. I SAID, WELL, PUT IN THE NOTE IF SOMEONE HITS I WILL PAY FOR IT WHEN IT GETS HIT.

EVERY DECISION I'VE MADE HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT TO GET A BETTER QUALITY PRODUCT. HERE'S SOME OF ONE OF PAVILION FIREPLACE, SITTING AREA. THE TREES.

I MEAN THERE WAS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ME TO PUT MORE THAN ABOUT TEN TREES. I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 30 TREES.

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I LEFT THE INSIDE COMPLETELY BARE.

BECAUSE OF THE YARDS. LIKE THIS WEEKEND FOR MOTHER'S DAY THERE WAS TWO FAMILIES THEY SEND ME PICTURES ON THE PHONE BECAUSE THEY WERE OUTSIDE PLAYING IN THE CENTER.

THAT'S ONE OF THE PARKS THAT'S THERE.

THE PEOPLE ON THE ESTATES. THE GATE CODES WORK BOTH SIDES.

THIS JUST SHOWS WHERE IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EDGE OF THE WATER.

THE PROPERTY HAS ABOUT 2 AND A HALF ACRES OF WATER THAT'S ON IT. RIGHT NOW IT'S DOWN BECAUSE I GUESS THE BEAVERS MESS UP THE DAMN AND THEY ARE FIXING THE DAMN. IT PRETTY MUCH STAYS FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT AT THE AREA RIGHT HERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIMILAR AREA THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU FOR THE PARK, PAVILION, FIREPLACE, THE GRILL, AND PARKING SPOTS SO THAT THEY CAN ENJOY THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. THEN HOA WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS ENTIRE AREA. THERE'S SOME BEAUTIFUL PECAN TREES THAT WILL STAY. I MEAN WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON CUTTING ANY TREES OUT IN THIS GREAT GREEN AREA.

ACCEPT TO TRIM THE TREES UP AND MAKE IT LOOK MORE PRESENTABLE ON THAT. HERE'S SOME ACTUAL PICTURES OF THE HOUSES. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN QUESTION. FRONT FACING GARAGES.

IF YOU SEE THIS PORCH, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT STICKS OUT IN FRONT OF THE FRONT-FACING GARAGE.

IT'S A FRONT DOOR. IT'S A PORCH.

IT'S A -- IT'S SOMETHING. THIS RIGHT HERE WAS BUILT TO BE ABLE TO GO IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE.

THIS RIGHT HERE. EITHER ONE OF THESE TWO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I'M I BUILT THOSE TWO HOUSES.

I THINK THEY LOOK GREAT. BUT AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE -- BUT THAT TO ME IS JUST AS PRESENTABLE OR MORE PRESENTABLE THAN HAVING TO DO J SWINGS.

THE STIGMA OF FRONT FACING GARAGES HAS -- NOT OUT OF HAND.

BUT MISGUIDED, I THINK. BECAUSE WHAT THEY WANT ON THE SMALLER LOTS AND AGAIN BUILD BIGGER LOTS.

THEY DON'T WANT BIG LOTS. THEY WANT SMALL LOTS.

THEY DON'T -- THEY'VE MOVED FROM BIGGER LOTS.

AND THE NEW PHASE VILLAS HERE. THESE HOMES HERE.

THERE'S MORE LOTS. THEY ARE MAINLY 55 BY 110.

I INHERITED. 60-BY-120 IS SMALLEST.

I NEED A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE VILLAS.

PERFECT EXAMPLE FRONT FACING GARAGE.

FRONT FACING GARAGE. THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE ON THE CORNER. AND I WAS ABLE TO WIDEN THAT HOUSE QUITE A BIT. BECAUSE OF THE PIE SHAPE.

YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE FRONT ENTRY WHEN WE DID THE COLUMNS TO GIVE THAT FRONT DOOR WHICH SUPPOSED TO BE THE FOCAL POINT OF YOUR HOUSE. THIS HOUSE NOW OBVIOUSLY I TOOK A PICTURE TO MAKE IT LOOK NOT AS PRESENTABLE AS IT IS.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT J SWINGS YOU PARK IN FRONT OF YOUR FRONT DOOR.

YOUR FRONT YARD IS CONCRETE. IT'S -- BUT THAT'S MINE.

THE MORE I LOOK AT IT. TO ME, THE FRONT FACING GARAGE THAT IT WOULD BE AGAINST ARE THE FRONT FACING GARAGES LIKE THEY WOULD BUILD BEFORE AND FRONT FACING GARAGE OUT HERE 21-FOOT BACK YOUR FRONT DOOR. ALL YOU SEE THE FRONT FACING

GARAGE. >> LET'S ASK COUNCIL ASK SOME

QUESTIONS. >>

>> THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FRONT FACING GARAGE.

THERE'S OTHER ISSUES HERE. WHAT ARE THE OTHER ISSUE.

THE LOT SIZES FOR ONE? >> CORRECT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUST CALLED FOR THE SUBURBAN LOW DENSITY MODULE.

AND THAT'S AGAIN WHERE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE ACCORDING TO THAT GUIDANCE CALLS FOR 20,000 SQUARE FOOT.

WHEN WE MADE OUR -- WHEN MADE OUR DECISION ON WHICH DIRECTION STAFFS GOING TO BACK. OBVIOUSLY WE ALWAYS GO TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OUR PLAN SAYS IN THIS AREA WHEN

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AND TRANSITIONAL LOTS MEANING THAT YOU KNOW MAYBE THEY ARE NOT HITTING 20,000 PUT PRESS CLOSE. ELSE STATE IS BUILT -- WHAT THE

AVERAGE LOT SIZE ON ESTATE? >> THAT'S LIKE 20,000.

>> LESS THAN HALF ACRE. SOME ARE BIGGER.

33 QUARTERS OF ACRE. YOU GET PAST 37,000.

VILLAS BUILDING OUT WHAT IS AVERAGE LOT SIZE.

>> AVERAGE 9,000 PROBABLY. >> IF YOU AVERAGE EVERYTHING.

I THINK -- SOME ARE 14,000. SMALLEST 7200.

THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. >> THAT'S ALREADY A DONE DEAL.

>> AND THEN WHAT'S THE PLANNED LOT SIZE FOR THE PARKS -- THE PARKS SHAWN WILL BE REMOVING THE I GUESS THE VILLAS HAD SOME LOTS THAT WERE RANGING ABOUT 20,000 SQUARE FEET THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED AND THEY WOULD BE REPLACED WITH 72 TO ABOUT 14,000 SQUARE FOOT. THERE'S A FEW SPRINKLED 14,000S SOME 9,000S. IT'S --

>> CLOSER MATCH TO VILLAS. >> CORRECT.

>> IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR THE LAKES.

>> I GAVE HIM ONE OF THE ELSE STATE LOTS IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT LOT AT NO COST TO HIM. JUST -- I KID SELL ONE.

BUT NOW I DO THEM AUTOMATIC THE TILE.

>> TO ME THE AND I GET GARAGE IS AN ISSUE.

TO ME THE BIGGER ISSUE IS DENSITY.

IT'S THE LOT SIZES. I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS QUESTION. WHAT IS THE DENSITY OF THE BEFORE AND WHAT IS DENSITY OF WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED NOW?

>> I THINK WE WERE STARTING 2.27.

THAT'S WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE WHOLE PD.

LOOKING ALTERNATE 2.27. IF YOU MOVE TO WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO NOW THIS ACTUALLY INCREASES IT TO 2.68 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THAT'S BECAUSE AGAIN YOU ARE TAKING 282 LOTS AND NOW YOU GOT MORE LAND BUT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE OPEN SPACE TOO. SO THE DENSITY CHANGES BY YOU KNOW 4.0 -- 0.4 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE YOU LOOK AT.

KEEP IN YOUR MIND YOU ADD IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OPEN SPACE.

THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE. YOU DO DENSITY, YOU HAVE TO

INCLUDE OPEN SPACE. >> IF IT WAS AS BEFORE.

IF IT WAS AS BEFORE. WHAT WOULD YOU DENSITY BE?

>> IT WAS -- IT WOULD BE 2.27 DWELLING UNIT.

AGAIN YOU ONLY HAD -- YOU HAD ABOUT 2 AND A HALF --

>> I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT. >> YOU CONTINUE MY THOUGHT PROCESS. JUST MY GENERAL QUESTION OF THE DENSITY ISSUES. WHERE THERE FURTHER ISSUE.

GARAGE AND DENSITY ISSUE? >> I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE. THOSE WERE -- AGAIN WHEN WE MADE OUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE FACT THAT, AGAIN, WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW IT'S A COMMUNITY WIDE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE DEFINITELY AGAIN WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE TRYING TO TURN A BLIND EYE.

THEY ARE GUIDANCE. IT'S -- IT'S GUIDANCE THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO FOLLOW AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE DO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS A -- IT IS PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S PRIVATELY GATED.

IT'S GOT SOME DIFFERENCES WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COMPARE TO KENSINGTON PARK.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GATED COMMUNITY VERSES

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I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WE ALWAYS GO BACK TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THESE DEVELOPMENTS ALL KIND OF ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD WHEN WE LOOK AT IT. WE DON'T LOOK AT DOLLARS.

WE'RE KIND OF MORE OR LESS LOOKING AT ITS A DEVELOPMENT HOW DOES -- HOW DOES IT MATCH UP TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

HOW DOES IT MATCH UP TO ZONING ORDINANCE.

IT'S VERY BLACK AND WHITE. I MEAN IT'S -- AGAIN IT'S KIND OF LOOKING AT EVERYTHING ON THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

>> SURE. ONE QUICK QUESTION THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE REST OF THE GUYS.

IN THIS PD, 20% FRONT FACING GARAGESES APPROVED?

>> YES, SIR. >> AND THEN YOU SAID THAT IN OUR

ORDINANCES WE ALLOW UP TO 65%? >> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.

>> SECTION FIVE OF OUR PD REQUIREMENT.

WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO US AND THEY WANT TO BUILD A BRAND-NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. OUR ZONING ORDINANCE ACTUALLY CALLS FOR AND ALLOWS FOR UP TO 65% FRONT ENTRY GARAGE.

>> HE'S REQUESTING 72. >> AGAIN YOU LOOK AT THE C COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE THIS STRUGGLE. OF LOOKING AT WHAT DOES OUR ZONING ORDINANCE SAY UNDER SECTION FIVE WHAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VERSES WHAT THE PD HAS ALLOWED FOR.

AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT THE APPLICANT IS WANTING AS WELL.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE FINDING AGAIN AS I HAVE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN THE DIFFERENCE PERCENTAGES THAT COULD HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW. >> THANK YOU.

>> WHEN MADE CHANGES TO THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGE AND LOT SIZES WAS THAT MAYBE A YEAR AGO. WAS THAT THE COMP PLAN THAT WE

CHANGED OR WAS THAT OUR ZONING? >> THAT WAS OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. THAT CHANGE HOW FRONT ENTRY GARAGE SIT. I BELIEVE I THINK I DEFINE THAT IN HERE ALSO. LET REFRESH MY MEMORY.

GARAGE A GARAGE FACE SHALL EITHER BE SET BACK MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE OR FRONT PORCH OR MINIMUM OF 25 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE WHICHEVER IS GREATER. IN NO INSTANCE WILL IT EXTEND FORWARD BEYOND THE FRONT FACED. EVEN J SWINGS IF YOU THINK ABOUT, THAT GARAGE IS ACTUALLY EXTENDED FRONT OF THE FRONT FACED. WE WORK WE NEED TO DO ON OUR SIDE TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER CLARIFICATION ON WHAT IS OUR COMMUNITY REALLY WANT TO SEE. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. I HAVE CONCERN ON THE GARAGES.

I'M VERY VOCAL I DON'T WANT FRONT GARAGES.

THE RATIONALE FOR WHAT I GREW UP IN ARTICLING TO BE.

EVERYTHING WAS A FRONT GARAGE. BIG WHITE WALL IN THE HOUSE.

WE DON'T WHITE DOORS ANY MORE LIKE THAT.

WE DO GARAGES WITH WOOD DOORS. WHICH MAKES THE HOUSE LOOK DIFFERENT. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GATED COMMUNITY. OF SMALL LOTS.

THAT I'M SURE WAS ORIGINALLY DRAWN UP FOR ELDERLY.

THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE THING WAS SET UP FOR.

AND IT WAS TO GET THE OLDER PEOPLE GET.

SMALLER HOUSES WITH LESS LOTS. TO ME THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T FIT THE PROFILE OF WHERE I WAS COMING FROM.

I WAS COMING FROM DOWN THE HERE. YOU WILL NOT DRIVE UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND SUMMER CREST UNLESS YOU GOT THE CODE TO GET.

. IF YOU GOT THE CODE YOU PROBABLILY THERE OR HAVE RELATIVES THAT LIVE THERE.

AND THEY LIKE IT LIKE THAT. I TAKE MY -- SCRATCH MY POSITION ON FRONT GARAGES OFF IN SUMMER CREST BECAUSE IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY. AND I THINK IN MY MIND I WOULD LACK AT ANIGATED ANY SPACE GATED COMMUNITY.

I DON'T THINK THESE ARE BAD. >> I GREW UP IN NEIGHBORHOOD OF

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QUANTITY NOT QUALITY. >> WHEN YOU AND YOUR FATHER STARTED THIS PROJECT DID YOU EVER THINK YOU WOULD BUILD 288

SQUARE FOOT HOME? >> NO.

>> I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE IN THERE.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP. >> IN FACT, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, I REMEMBER TALKING TO TROY WAS ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDERS WE TALKED TO. AND SAYING WE'VE GOT NOT THAT I CAN PRICE FIX ANYTHING. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.

BUT I TOLD HIM, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU THINK YOU WILL COME IN HERE AND BUILD 110, 115-SQUARE FOOT THIS ISN'T THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SHOOTING FOR 165.

YOU CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 165.

BUT, YES. THAT WAS -- MILLION AND A HALF.

>> BECAUSE LIKE WHEN THE CONSIDER CAME IN TO GET HIS SUP FOR RAFF LINE THAT WAS TWO MONTH PROGRESS TO GET HALF A MILLION HOME BUILT. SUP PROCESS AND WHO'LL NINE YARDS. I TOOK TWO MONTHS FROM THE TIME IT WENT ACROSS HIS DESK UNTIL IT WENT OUT THE DOOR FROM US.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU BUILD THAT STYLE OF HOUSE OR THAT NICE OF HOUSE ANYWHERE ELSE IN HOUSE. BUT OVER THERE IT LOOKS JUST RIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS. THE PROBLEM I HAVE I'VE CONSISTENTLY TURNED DOWN REQUEST THAT CONFLICT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

THAT WAS THE MAJOR POINT WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE.

>> YES, SIR. >> I THINK WE HAD -- WITH DONE

THAT QUITE A FEW TIME. >> WE HAVE.

>> I THINK ONCE I YIELDED. THE OTHER TIMES I HAVE NOT.

BUT THAT'S MY ISSUE. I DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH GARAGES.

THE QUALITY OF THE WORK AND EVERYTHING.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE THE DENSITY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M WRESTLING WITH. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE HAVE ALL ADMITTED AT SOME POINT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS FLAWS.

WE HAD RECENT MEETING ABOUT CORRECTING THE FLAWS.

I HEAR WHERE THE MAYOR WE NEED A PLAN TO FOLLOW IT.

EVERY DIME WE DO PD. IT TAKES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW SOMETHING WHEN WE GIVE AMENDMENTS TO WHAT WE SAID.

THAT'S MY ONLY TAKE. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO AMENDMENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FIRST.

OR AT THE SAME TIME. ONCE HE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. OTHERWISE BACK ATTEND OF THE YEAR AND SUBMIT THE CHANGES. I'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF THE DEVELOP. .

ONE OF MY BIGGER CONCERNS WHERE I SUPPORTED FULLY ALL OF THE REASONS WHAT I VIEWED FOR ME PERMANENTLY.

I SAW OUR DEFINITION FOR DEVELOPMENT CHANGED ABOUT A YEAR AGO. ALSO AT THE SAME TIME CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT CHANGE COULD HAVE A LARGER IMPACT ON ONGOING DEVELOP. .

WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I PROCEED INTO MY FURTHER QUESTIONS, IS OF THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT HOW DOES WHAT HE'S PROPOSING NOW FIT IN WITH WHAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED?

>> IN OTHER WORDS WE HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR CITY WORK WHERE THEY'VE HAD DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S BEEN ONGOING WITH HI HIGHER PERCENT OOIL OR HIGHER PERCENTITE OF WIDER LOSS. THEY CAME WITH L COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ROLLED FORWARD AND THEY GOT MORE OF THE BACK END OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS IT DIDN'T CHANGE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. HAS THE PREVIOUS PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVE THEY -- WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGES OF FRONT

ENTRY GARAGES DID THEY INCLUDE? >> 20% WAS ALL THEY WERE ALLOWED

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TO DO. >> WHAT WERE THE SIZES OF THOSES? I'M A LOT WIDTH GUY.

SQUARE FOOTAGE DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.

>> ON THE PREVIOUS LOTS IN YOUR PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT PORTION THAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED ARE THOSE MORE LIKE 55 --

>> ALL OF THEM. VILLAS ARE.

THE 83 LOTS THAT ARE IN VILLAS. 90% OF THEM ARE 55 BY 110.

>> NOW WE HAVE ISOLATED THAT. THAT'S THE SAME BASICALLY

CORRECT. >> WE WILL GO TO 60 BY 120.

TO MAKE IT LARGER. OBVIOUSLY THE ISSUE IS AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF ONCE AGAIN.

E I ASK WHAT MAKE MIDLOTHIAN DIFFERENT. ALL THE OTHER CITIES IS LOT OF FRONT-END GARAGE. THAT'S MAKES REAL GOOD SENSE.

BECAUSE IF YOU DO YOU CAN GET YOU'RE LOTS MORE NARROW AND YOU CAN FIT THAT HOUSE IN TIGHTER. I DO HIGHLY APPRECIATE THE QUALITY OF HOME YOU'RE BUILDING. IT IS DEFINITELY IN THE UPPER TIER. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR DIRECTION THAT YOU'VE TAKEN INTO PROVIDING QUALITY.

BUT I WOULD ARGUE ON THE FLIP SIDE I'M ALMOST LOOKING FOR TO US GET TO POINT WHERE WE MOVE TO THREE STORY HOMES NEXT.

WE CAN GET THEM ON SMALLER LOT. >> ALL THE HOUSES CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE TWO STORY HOUSE. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.

>> THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE. IT'S ALL ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE.

BUT FOR ME THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES WHEN YOU LIMIT THOSE IT PROVIDES MORE CAPACITY. YOU HAVE WIDER LOT.

TO GET AN ACCEPTABLE J-SWING. I'M NOT A BIG J-SWING GUY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT BY OUR DECISIONS AS COUNCIL TO RELABEL OUR DEFINITIONS ON OUR DEVELOPMENTS STANDARDS, THAT WE HAVEN'T BACKED HIM IN THE CORNER.

HE'S IN THE SAME LOT SIZE. HOW DID YOU GET -- HOW WERE ABLE TO ROLE THROUGH 20% FRONT GARAGES ON YOUR PRIEST PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU JUST WHAT YOU SHOWED US.

BECAUSE I STARTED WITH THE ESTATE.

I DON'T ALLOW FRONT FACING GARAGE.

THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF THE DEVELOP.

THOSE WERE -- THOSE ARE 120-FOOT LOTS.

YOU GOT 20% ON SOME 55-FOOT LOTS.

>> THAT'S ON THE VILLA SIDE. THAT'S WHAT WE TOOK FROM I THINK BACK IN 2004. AND BACK THEN, AND TOOK THEM A FEW YEARS TO GET THERE. BUT I WENT THROUGH ESTATES FIRST. WHICH I WOULD HAVE WENT TO VILLAS FIRST. THE VILLA WHEN WE STARTED THE VILLAS WHEN I'M LOOKING AT 20%, FRONT FACING GARAGES THAT NEVER EVEN -- WHEN IT BOUGHT THE PROPERTY TOOK OVER THE PD, NEVER THOUGHT OF OKAY I DON'T LIKE FRONT FACING GARAGE UNTIL WE STARTED BUILDING AND PEOPLE WANTING FRONT FACING GARAGES.

THAT'S WHY THERE'S MORE FRONT FACING GARAGES.

TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER FRONT FACING GARAGE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I WILL.

I WANT THE ABILITY -- >> YOU DO WANT 72%.

>> I CAME FOR 80%. AND THEN WE NEGOTIATED BEFORE P AND Z. THEY GOT ME DOWN TO 72.

>> OUT STANDARD CALL FOR 20%. >> 65%.

>> UP TO 65. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT THE J-SWING.

>> THAT'S ON -- ON THAT SPOT. -- HERE'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

THE PROBLEM I FORESAW WHEN WE WENT TO THE J-SWING REQUIREMENT AND THE LOW PERCENTILE THAT WOULD CREATE A WIDER LOT WIDTH.

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SO THE PROPORTIONITY OF PROPERTY THAT HE'S WANTING TO FURTHER DEVELOP INTO NOW IS THAT EXTRA LAND OR AT LEAST IN THE

ATTACHMENT OF THE ORIGINAL PD. >> LET ME SAY THIS.

I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T THINK THE CHANGES WE MADE TO ZONING ARE EFFECTED THIS PROPERTY AT ALL.

WHAT'S HE CURRENTLY GOT. HE WAS UNDER A PD.

SO THE CHANGES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT GARAGE SIZES AND NO FURNITURE. THAT WOULDN'T HAVE EFFECTED THE PD THAT HE'S CURRENTLY UNDER. THE 20% AND THE LOT WIDTHS AND EVERYTHING HE'S BUILDING ARE ALL UNDER THE ORIGINAL PD THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2006 I THINK. NOW IT WILL, THOUGH HAVE AN EFFECT ON THIS NEW ADDITIONAL OR IT COULD ON THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE HE'S LOOKING AT. BUT IT HASN'T HAD AN EFFECT SO FAR AND BECAUSE THIS IS IN A PD, WE GO BACK TO PD STANDARDS AND IT SAYS WE CAN DO UP TO 65. NOW THAT IS THERE'S SOME CONFLICT THERE. BUT AGAIN WE PD WE KNOW WE GIVE MORE EXCEPTIONS, I E UP TO 65% BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE OTHER AMENITIES WE'RE REQUIRING. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EFFECTED THEM YET WITH THOSE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE BACK IN NOVEMBER.

>> WHAT I MEANT WAS THE NEW MINDSET EFFECT ON WHERE WE ENVISION OUR NEW STANDARD ARE. AND WE SEE THIS AS A DIFFERENCE.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH OUR ONGOING DEVELOPMENT. NEW DEVELOPMENTS A WHOLE DIFFERENT PACKAGE TO ME. AND JUST FOR ME SPEAKING PERSONALLY WHAT J SWINGS PROPERLY INSTALL OR REAR-SIDE ENTRY CREATE WIDER LOTS. IT LOWERS THE DENSITY LEVELS WHICH IS WE'RE NOT SAY THANK YOU NEED TO GO THERE ROUTE.

BUT THERE'S DEVELOPERS WHO NEED 50-FOOT WIDE LOTS.

WE COULD ALWAYS ARGUE THEY ARE PUTTING 1 MILLION TOWN HOMES ON ZERO LOT LINE. I CAN'T REALLY DO THINGS FROM QUALITY WHICH YOUR IS TOP NOTCH. I'M KIND OF MAYOR A LITTLE BIT.

WE JUST TALKED LIKE WEEK AGO COMP PAN.

AND WE TALKED WHAT I FELT LIKE WE WERE COMING OUT OF THAT MEETING WAS THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO WHAT DID WE DECIDE? [INAUDIBLE] THEN BEFORE WE DO THAT.

WE WILL TAKE THIS OUT OF THAT -- IT'S -- WE WILL CHANGE.

>> WE WILL CHANGE THE COMP PLAN AND THEN APPROVE IT [INAUDIBLE] THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE COMP PLAN IS IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT EVERY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY THIS SHOULD BE A SUBURBAN MODULE WHEN IT'S 38 ACRES. I MEAN YOU HAVE ONE-ACRE LOTS AT THE TIME YOU PUT THE STREETS IN. THAT'S MY PROBLEM WITH THE COMP PLAN. WHEN IT'S LAID OVER.

IT DOESN'T PEOPLE GO BY JUST BUY38 ACRES.

PUTTING ONE ACRE LOTS DOESN'T WORK ON 31 ACRE.

>> WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE JUST REVISITED THAT A WEEK OR TWO AGO. WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PHASE IT OUT OR THEY GET AN ADDITIONAL 40 TO 80 ACRES. IT'S SLIPPING INTO NEW COMP OVERLAY. WHICH IS PROBLEMATIC WORK.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME PROVISIONS MADE FOR THAT.

I GET THAT DEFINITELY GET THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED.

>> YES. THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO -- IT CAUSES IT'S BIG PROBLEMS FOR DEVELOPERS LIKE GENTLEMAN LIKE THIS HAS A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED.

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>> GETTING BACK TO THE FRONT GARAGE.

AND ARE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS INSIDE THE CITY.

THAT YOU GO FROM DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY THAT MUCH SIX OR EIGHT FEET OF HOUSE THE REST IS GARAGE DOOR. ND THINK ALL OF US HAVE GONE THROUGH THABD AND THAT'S WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST AGE RESTRICTED AREA.

BECAUSE TEENAGERS ARE NATALIEING THERE.

YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD HALF MILLION.

>> THEY ARE NOT 250 HOM ILOOMNUM GARAGE DOOR EITHER.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE 3,000.

THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE GARAGE DOOR. >> THE EFFORT ISSUE THAT WE HAD WITH FRONT ENTRY GARAGES EVEN THOUGH WE CHANGED OUR SET BACK, WE HAD A LOT OF BIG PICKUP TRUCKS THINK DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH DOOR AND THEIR BUMPERS HANGING INTO THE SIDEWALK.

EVEN WE MADE 40-FOOT SET BACK. YOU HAVE JIMMY RIDING HIS TRICYCLE GOING INTO THE STREET. THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE WE WERE

TRYING FOR. >> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS HOA IN OUR DEED RESTRICTION AND CC AND RS IF YOU PARK IN YOUR HANGING OVER THE SIDEWALK, IF YOU ARE --

>> THAT'S A CITY ORDINANCE. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MATTERS OR NOT. ONE OF THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC THING WAS THAT ON THE NEW PARK AND THE LAKES IS PUTTING SIDEWALK ON THE CURVE.

I SAID, YOU KNOW ON MAJOR STREET I WOULDN'T LIKE THAT.

BUT IN A SMALL GATED COMMUNITY IT KIND OF GIVES EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE SIDEWALK. I'M NOT PROMOTING THAT.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IT DOES KIND OF HELP WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

MORE ROOM TO MARK WHEN YOU DO HAVE I'M SURPRISED ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN THEY ACTUALLY SOLD THEIR HOME.

IN CRYSTAL FOREST. AND BOUGHT A HOUSE IN THE VILLAS. AND HE'S GOT THE DODGE.

HEAVY DUTY FOUR-DOOR TRUCK. AND I CAN'T BELIEVE HE CAN GET IN IT THE GARAGE. HE PARKS IT IN THE GARAGE.

I WAS THINKING HERE WE GO. HERE'S THE FIRST THING.

AND EVERYBODY THAT -- WE HAD COUPLE OF PICTURES ON HERE.

WE DON'T ALLOW YOU TO PARK OVERNIGHT IN THE STREET.

THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GO PAST EACH OTHER'S HOMES. WE DON'T GO AROUND WITH TICKET ALL THE TIME. AS IT GETS MORE AND MORE HOMES THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY TRY TO LOOK OUT FOR.

>> I THINK IT'S OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GUIDING DOCUMENT. TO ME IN MY OPINION OF SERVING ON CITY COUNCIL I THINK IT'S DANGEROUS TO LOCK IN AND NEVER BUDGE ON IT WHEN THERE'S GOOD PROJECTS.

FOR A LOT OF REASONS THAT CLARK MENTIONED IT'S SET FORTH OF PAINTING SO MORE RURAL AREA WITH BROAD BRUSH.

AND TIME COME AS YOUR CITY DEVELOPS YOU HAVE PULL OUT THE FINE BRUSH AND START TO COLOR THE CITY IN.

AS FAR AS THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT GOES, I THINK IT'S A GOOD DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT'S GOT SOME CONCERNS WITH LOT SIZES FOR ME PERSONALLY.

I DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH FRONT FACING GARAGES AS MUCH.

BUT I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. >> THAT WAS OUR HALF.

WHEN I START THIS NEXT PHASE. I PUT THE LEDGESTONE.

IT'S NOT A PERCENTAGE OF CO'S. IT WILL NOT ADD MORE LOTS.

>> IN FACT. WE'VE GOT IT.

>> I'M NOT STARTING MORE LOTS UNTIL LEDGESTONE STARTS THIS IS PART OF LEDGESTONE. AND ONE OF REASON WE DID THE LOTS WITH THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING AND IT'S SHOWING.

THAT THE DEMAND ON THE SMALLER LOTSEN THOUGH THEY ARE REALLY HIGH END ARE MORE THAN THE HALF ACRE LOTS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PUSHED ME TO DO THIS.

SO I CAN GET SOME MOMENTUM AND IF I CAN SHOW THAT I HAVE SOME MOMENTUM WITH SOME EXTRA LOTS COMING, I HAVE SOME OTHER BUILDERS THAT ARE READY BUT THEY WON'T IF I DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA

LOTS. >> DO YOU THINK THAT'S COST DRIVEN OR BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT?

>> ACTUALLY COST MEAN MORE. I SPENT MOST OF MY MONEY UP

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BUT 60-FOOT LOTS WITH MARKETING PEOPLE IS NOT MORE OF I WHAT ABOUT 70-FOOT LOTS. WHAT ABOUT THIS AND THAT.

WITH ALL THIS DATA, ON THE LOT SIZE FOR GUY I SAID THESE ARE EMPTY NESTER HOMES. WHAT IS BEST THINGS FOR SALE WHICH ULTIMATELY MONEY. EVEN THOUGH WE DO THE YARD WE MULCH IT ONCE A YEAR. WE FERTLIZE THE FRONT YARD.

WE DO EVERYTHING. THEY STILL HAVE THE BACKYARDS.

USUALLY THEY JUST PAY TO HAVE THAT DONE.

>> ONE QUESTION. I THINK THIS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING. I DID BRING THIS UP TO MY ENGINEER. WHAT IF WE DO 70-FOOT LOTS.

I WANT THE KNOW WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE MY BOTTOM LINE.

I CAN DO 70-FOOT LOTS. I DON'T HAVE MUCH DEVELOPMENT COST. ALL MY UP FRONT COST IS THERE.

THIS COST HERE IS LOT LESS BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE SEWER.

60 VERSES 70. AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THE VILLAS WHICH I THOUGHT NEEDED TO HAPPEN.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

>> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM IS CLOSED. DISCUSSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FIRST OF ALL.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LOCKS IN EXTREMELY UNFAIR.

OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HELPED GUIDE US TO END POINT WE WANT TO BE. AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO ADHERE TO OUR STAY WITHIN CERTAIN BOUNDARIES.

WE HAVE IN THE SHORT TIME EYE BEEN HERE WE'RE GRAVITATING AWAY FROM THE INTENT OF THE CITIZENS TO VOICE ■UNIQUENESSTOAGAIN MEET WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS WHAT'S STANDARD THING.

THE COME PREHENCESIVE PLAN. YOUR PROJECT IS GREAT.

I REALLY THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THE QUALITY AND ALL.

I'M SURE YOU NEED MARKETPLACE. THE QUESTION TO COUNCIL IS AT WHAT POINT DO WE -- ARE WE GOING TO LET THE MARKETPLACE DRIVE US TO AN END PLACE. THAT'S -- ANYBODY ELSE HAVE

COMMENTS. >> THE MARKET IS DRIVING EVERYTHING. LIKE MIDTOWN WHEN HE CAME TO -- BEFORE WE BUILT THE FIRST HOUSE I NEVER SAW USE FOR IT.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE PEOPLE LIVING THAT CLOSE TOGETHER.

BUT NOW YOU LACK AT WHAT HE HAS OUT THERE.

AND IT'S YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAYS ARE ONLY 8 FEET LONG.

BECAUSE THEY GOT ALLIES. I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT.

I THOUGHT WE WOULD GO BROKE. HE'S STILL SELLING HOUSES AND BILLING HOUSES. HE JUST STARTED NEXT DIVISION.

>> THAT'S AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

>> THE QUESTION IS TO THE COUNCIL.

THE MARKETPLACE THE MARKET BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WILL RESPOND TO MARKETPLACE. AND QUITE WELL.

AND THE QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL IS AS WE DIRECT AND GUIDE THE CITY. WHERE DO WE WANT THIS EFFORT TO END UP. OR IS GOING TO BE A RANDOM WALK.

AND ARE WE GOING TO END UP LIKE A TYPICAL METROPLEX CITY.

>> THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE. >> MY GUIDING LINE ISN'T ALWAYS WILL BE QUALITY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE I LAND ON IF IT'S A QUALITY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT OR HIGH-QUALITY AND FALLS IN AN AREA THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

THEN I'M OPEN TO CHANGES. >> THAT SIGN WE GO THROUGH MANY DESTINATION POINTS AND STILL HAVE QUALITY.

GUIDELINE OF QUALITY IS NOT SUFFICIENT IN AND OF ITSELF.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

>> THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT QUALITY.

THAT WAS MY POINT EARLIER. THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT MARKET IS THERE'S A MARK FOR ZERO LOT LINE.

WITH MILLIONS DOLLAR TRIPLE STORY TOWN HOMES.

I DO APPRECIATE QUALITY. BUT AND I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT

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THAT HAS WE KNOW FROM BACK IN 2012-'13 WE RUN 65-FOOT LOT AVERAGE. WE HAVE TO QUESTION -- AND I AM MUCH MORE LENIENT PROJECT LIKE THIS.

I DO FILL A LITTLE BIT -- A LOT FOR DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON THAT HAS A FLOW.

WHERE I CAN SEE SOME OTHER FLOW OF THE SIZE.

AND I SEE THE PROBLEMS. I NEVER ENVISIONED IN MY MIND THAT AJ-SWING WOULD BE ON 55-FOOT LOT.

J-SWING I SAW 75 TO 90'S. >> I FEEL KIND OF BAD FOR YOU.

>> 70 OR 72. THE POINT FOR ME IS WE CAN -- THE DEMAND IS OUT THERE. FOR THESE SMALL LOTS.

IT'S WHAT THE METRO PLEX IS. AND SO THE QUESTION FOR ME HAS HAS BEEN WHAT IS MIDLOTHIAN. WILL WE BE THIS SAME FOLLOW THAT FLOWS RIGHT ON THROUGH US IN 20 YEARS AND FOLKS HAVE HOPPED ON OVER TO MAKE DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OR SOUTH WE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO STILL BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD BIT OF LANDMASS LEFT TO MAKE THE MARK FOR A DIFFERENCE.

AND I KNOW IT'S WHAT BROUGHT MY FAMILY HERE.

WE MOVED FROM DESOTA. WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE SAW MID MIDLOTHIAN AS A DIFFERENT PLACE. ONLY LITTLE PIECE OF GARDEN EDE

FOR US. >> HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS THAT?

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IF I I WAS THINKING IN THAT SAME MINDSET.

MY FAMILY LIVES ON FOUR-ACRE LOT.

>> YOUR LIVE HOW WIDE OF LOT? >> I LIVE ON A 60-FOOT WIDE LOT NEXT TO 120 AND ANOTHER 120 BIND ME WHICH I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN.

DIVERSITY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT WITHIN ALL THAT. WE I'M IN LINE WHAT THE MAYOR SAYING IF WE AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHEN WE GET INTO NEW DEVELOPMENT VERSES ONGOING DEVELOPMENT WE GOT SOME STRONG

DECISIONS TO MAKE. >> I WANT TO MAKE POINT HERE.

I'M NOT SAYING HOLD ON TO THE PAST AT ALL.

I'M SAYING LET'S BE CAREFUL WHERE WE ARE HEADED.

AND DO WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE LIKE.

DO WE WANT TO BE DIFFERENT. WE WANT TO BE UNIQUE.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW DO WE DO IT.

AND WE NEED TO GET A GOOD PICTURE OF THE VISION, FUTURE WE WANT. AND SHAWN'S PROJECT IS EXCELLENT AND YOU COULD ARGUE IT FITS IN THE FLOW AND IT WILL NOT HAVE BIG IMPACT. I'M SAYING AT SOME POINT WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILL -- THAT WE WILL FOLLOW.

>> YOUR COMP PLAN CHANGES. WE NEVER WANTED HIGH DENSITY.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT LEDGESTONE LANE IN.

THAT'S MY WHOLE ARGUMENT. YOUR COMP PLAN CHANGES WITH

INFRASTRUCTURE. >> THAT MIGHT BE TRUE.

AT SOME POINT OR WE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND DETERMINE WHAT IS WE WOULD LIKE TO BE AND HOW TO GET THERE OR ARE WE GOING TO LET THIS RANDOM WALK TAKE US IF IT TAKES WITH US WILL LOOK LIKE OTHER CITIES AROUND US. OR CITIES TO THE NORTH.

THERE'S QUALITY CITIES THERE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

WHAT DO WE WANT FOR THE CITY. BACK TO MIKES POINT, WE STILL HAVE OUR -- WITH HAVE LOTS OF LAND.

WE HAVE STILL LOTS OF DECISIONS TO MAKE.

WE NEED A VISION WE CAN LASH ON TO AND STICK FOR WHILE.

>> WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE NEED SOMETHING. AND YEAH.

I THINK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. WE WANT -- IF ANYBODY -- CAN WE MOVE TO MOTION. IS THERE OTHER DISCUSSION?

[INAUDIBLE] >> WE NEED TO MAKE THAT

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>> LOOK AT PAGE FOUR. >> LETTER N.

NUMBER 7 SAID NO MORE THAN 72 AND 40% IS IN.

I AM GOING TO SAY SOMETHING RADICAL.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE DENSITY I FOR ONE AM CONVINCED THEY NEED FRONT FACING GARAGES TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT LOOK GOOD. IF YOU GO APROVE THE -- IF YOU DO WE DO. WE NEED TO GIVE THEM FRONT FACING GARAGE SO THEY HAVE GOOD PRODUCT.

>> I AGREE. >> CAN YOU BRING SLIDE UP WITH DIFFERENT NUMBER ACROSS THE TOP. POINT TO ONE THAT APROVE AS

PRESENTED I'M APPROVING. >> 72%.

>> I CAN'T SAY 65. I WILL JUST CHANGE IT.

>> CAN WE SAY 80. YOU CAN.

>> CAN WE SAY 80 J >> YOU CAN STATE A NUMBER.

AND IN THIS CASE BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE DISCREPANCY I WOULD STATE A NUMBER. WHATEVER YOU WANT THE NUMBER TO BE. I WOULD STATE THAT IN MOTION.

>> AS POKER PLAYER I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE POSSESSION 70% FRONTAGE AND PROVIDENCITY AS PRESENTED.

>> CLARIFICATION MOTION APPROVED.

ORDINANCE PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FRONT FACING GARAGES TO 70% WITH THOSE NUMBERS.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE -- ONE FOOT SET BACK DIFFERENCE.

>> ONE IS 21 AND ONE IS 20. >> WHY 70 AS OPPOSED TO 80?

>> BECAUSE YOU NEVER WANT TO GIVE SOMEONE EVERYTHING THEY ASK

FOR. >> I DID COME IN AT 100.

>> NO. NO.

NO. I'M READING RIGHT THROUGH ACROSS THE LIST. THAT'S WHY I WANTED THAT SLIDE

UP. >> I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> I THINK THE ATTORNEY. >> HOLD ON.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE -- APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ACCEPT IT WILL HAVE 70% FRONTAGE ENTRY GARAGES.

>> AND WE HAVE A SECOND FOR IT. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? DENSITY IS THE SAME.

THE AVERAGE IS 2.7. SO TO GET TO 2.7 THEN YOU WILL

BE 3.35. >> OKAY.

>> I WOULD HATE TO. THE TOTAL THIS THE MOOT POINT.

YOU ARE GOING UP 131 UNITS OVER 39 ACRES.

THAT'S 3.35. BUT YOU GET TO AN AVERAGE -- I'M WITH SHAWN. THIS IS JUST NUMBERS.

>> OKAY. >> ARE -- EVERYBODY GOOD?

>> WE HAVE FIRST AND SECOND. >> ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION?

>> I MADE THE FIRST. >> WE HAVE SECOND.

WE MOTION AND A SECOND I ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.

I WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY. AND THE MAYOR IS WRESTLING WITH HIMSELF HERE. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 6-0. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> I WILL SEE IF I SLEEP TONIGHT. I AM GOING TO DO ONE MORE ITEM THEN WE WILL TAKE A SHORT BREAK. I WILL TAKE THAT CHANCE.

WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE MORE ITEM. DO YOU THINK BIG ONE?

>> WE'RE TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE >> CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN

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CHAMBLEE SURVEY. >> IT REQUIRES ANY SOLAR FARM TO GO BEFORE THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

TO BE APPROVED. THE PROPERTY LOCATE 67 PROPOSAL WILL BE LOCATED NORTH OF HIGHWAY 67 AND SMALL PORTION OF IT.

WILL BE TO THE SOUTH. THE SMALL PORTION OF THE SOUTH OF IT IS SOME OF THE PROCESSING OF POWER AS IT TRANSMITS TO THE GERDAU FACILITY. THE PROPOSED SOLAR FARM THE REASON FOR REQUEST IS TO ACCOMPANY GERDAU'S PART OF IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS OF POWER THEY DO USE DURING PEEK HOURS DURING THE YEAR. THEY ARE LESS BURDEN IMPACT ON THE POWER GRID. THERE WAS THERE'S BEEN COUPLE OF TIME WHERE THEY'VE POWER TAKEN TO SUMMER TIME WHEN EVERYONE USING FROM THE GRID. WHERE THEY REQUIRED SOME SORTS OF EXTRA SOURCE OF ENERGY TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS.

WITH THIS -- WITH THIS PROPOSED SOLAR FARM ANOTHER REASON ONE OF THE MORE SUSTAINABLE CLEAN WAYS OF PROVIDING THE POWER THEY NEED THE AMOUNT OF POWER THEY NEED AS WALL.

IN ACCORDANCE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL MODULE. INDUSTRIAL MODULE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE COMBINATION OF USES THAT SUPPORT INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES.

THE SOLAR FARM CONSTRUCTED AND DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY IN COMBINATION TO INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES LIKE GERDAU TO HELP ACCOMPANY THEM WITH POWER NEEDS. THE PROPOSED USE MEET -- CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

WHEN WE CREATE THIS SOLAR FARM TO ALLOW FOR SOLAR FARMS WE CREATE A VARIOUS RULES AND PROCEDURES.

VAR VARIOUS MINUTE MOOUM -- MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. THEY EXCEED FOR SOLAR FARM ENERGY. ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENT HAVING A 20-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AROUND THE PERIMETER OF SUBJECT PROPERTY. WITHIN THE -- WITHIN THE -- WHAT THEY ARE DOING HAVING PERIMETER SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY LANDSCAPE UPWARD 20 FEET. THEY WILL REQUIRED SECURITY FENCING WHICH IS CHAIN LINK WITH THREE STRANDS OF BARBED WIRE ON THE TOP OF IT. THE LANDSCAPING THEY ARE PUTTING THIS IS PUTTING IN VARIOUS VEGETATIVE SPECIES.

WE LOOKED AT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN PRETTY CLOSELY.

TALKING WITH THEM AND WORKING ON THE PROJECT AND GOING BACKARDFORD. THE REASON THEY PUT IN DIFFERENT SPECIES IS TO ALLOW FOR SOME DIVERSITY IN CASE SOMETHING COMES ALONG SOME SORT OF SPECIES COMES ALONG AND KILLS THE PLANTS THEY WILL STILL HAVE SOME SORT OF SCREENING AND OPERATION.

THEY WILL ALLOW FOR THOSE PROBLEMS YOU SEE WITH LANDSCAPING. ALSO THEY HAVING VARIOUS BUSHES.

THE WAY THEY DESIGN THE LANDSCAPING IS DESIGNED TO REALLY SOFTEN UP THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.

THE LAST THING THEY WANT THE DO HAVE HUGE HEAVY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA WITH SOLAR FARMS. THERE ARE AREAS THEY ARE SEEKING VARIANCE. RIGHT HERE YOU HAVE NATURAL RIPARIAN AREAS WHERE IT CREATES A NATURAL BUFFER.

IT'S AND IN THE AREAS IT'S EITHER 20 FEET IN WIDTH OR GREATER. THERE'S ANOTHER PORTION RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN. THEY SEEK A VARIANCE FROM STAFF FEELS THE RIPARIAN BUFFER PREPARING THE SAME BUFFERING FROM THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.

IT'S HEAVILY VEGETATIVE ALREADY. IT'S DOING THE EXACT SAME THING THEY WILL BE DOING ALONG THE PERIMETER BUT THIS IS NATURAL VERSES MAN MADE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

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LOCATED NORTH OF 67. >> CORRECT.

>> AND THE PORTION THAT IS REALLY HARD HERE.

THIS IS THE STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE LOCATED ACROSS INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S PERMIT. HOWEVER YOU DON'T SEE HERE IS ALL OGERDAU SURROUNDS THAT. IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF EXISTING FACILITY YOU WON'T SEE THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED BY OTHER BUILDING. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T REQUIRE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THERE. IT'S POINTLESS TO HAVE THEM DIG UP AND BUT BUFFER AROUND THE MIDDLE THERE.

COMPLEX. ALSO THE WAY THESE SOLAR -- ONCE AGAIN HERE'S THE LAYOUT OF BUFFER.

THEY ARE USING ALL AROUND. DIFFERENT TYPES OVER PLANTS, TREES AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPECIES.

AND THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE AS DIVERSE AS POSSIBLE.

ALLOW FOR BETTERS A THETICES MORE SOFTENING IN THE EVENT THE PLANTS GET SICK AND DIE. WE HAVE SOME SPECIES THAT SURVIVE BEFORE THEY CAN REPLANT AND REGROW.

IRRIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

EACH ONE OF THE SOLAR PANELS THAT THEY HAVE ON HERE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AT ANY POINT IT'S TILTING AS FOLLOWS THE SUN IT'S 15 FEET IN HEIGHT. THAT'S THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO GO. IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE THEY DON'T WILL NEVER EXCEED THE 15 FEET IN HEIGHT.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.

NEVER TALLER THAN 15 FEET. >> THEY DON'T PLAN ON EXCEEDING THAT BY ANY MEANS. ALSO THE TYPE OF PANELS THAT THEY HAVE USING IT'S A DOUBLE-SIDED PANEL THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED WITH A NONREFLECTIVE MATERIAL MINIMIZING GLARE.

I DO NOT -- WE DID RECEIVE OPPOSITION.

THERE WAS CONCERN. THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK ABOUT GLARE. THEY ARE COMPLETE DIFFERENT PANEL THEN WHAT YOU READ ABOUT ONLINE.

ALSO HOW THEY TRANSMIT THE ENERGY IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN USING ANY SORT OF WATER TO CREATE HEAT WHICH CAUSES THE HEAT. THIS WILL LITTLE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA REGARDING THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

ONCE AGAIN EACH ONE OF THESE SOLAR RAYS ARE ON WILL TILT THEY ARE AXIS WILL TILT. THEY WILL MOVE THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WITH THIS THERE WAS 31 WE REQUIRED. SUBJECT PROPERTY JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON MAJORITY OF ALMOST MOST OF THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY ETG. IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SEND OUT NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNER OUTSIDE OFTY LIMIT FOR THAT NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS AT 31 NOTICES.

ONE CAME BACK IN FAVOR. ONE IN OPPOSITION.

THE ONE IN OPPOSITION DID NOT CALL FOR -- DIDN'T EXCEED THE 20% IN OPPOSITION THAT REQUIRES THE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE.

THAT'S NOT REQUIRED TONIGHT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY WE RECEIVED 1 11 105.

NOTICE. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

IT MEETS MINIMUM STANDARD. WE BELIEVE THAT THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED AND THE BAY IT'S LAID OUT WILL BE BENEFIT TO NOT ONLY GERDAU BUT SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

WILL ALLOW MORE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY.

AND WON'T COVER ADMISSIONS. IT WILL PROVIDE I MEAN ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY IN FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR POWER NEEDS. ALSO WITH THIS, THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ONCE AGAIN ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IF FOR SOME REASON THE USE IS TERMINATED, SEES SEIZES AFTER.

THERE'S A MITIGATION PROCESS FOR THEM TO REMOVE THE PANELS THE RAYS AND THEY THAT IS IN ORDINANCE AS WELL.

WHICH WAS RECORDED IN TEXT AMENDMENT.

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THAT'S -- THAT'S -- THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROJECT.

PROPERTY LINES WILL COME UP AND AROUND GO UP AND AROUND THAT.

>> ANY HOMES IN THERE? >> THE HOMES THE EXISTING

HOMES -- >> IN THAT --

>> THIS IS ALL INDUSTRIAL. >> OKAY.

IT'S OLD WAREHOUSE. RIGHT NOW I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S

BEING USED. >> OKAY.

>> THEY ALSO LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY AS PART OF THIS.

THEY WANTED TO REALLY -- WHAT DURING THE PRO PROCESS.

WE WENT AND WE WENT THROUGH THEIR PROPOSED PLAN.

BEFORE THIS APPLICATION WE TOLD THEM REQUIREMENT PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN 200 FEET. THEY ACTUALLY DID THEIR OWN NOTIFICATION PROCESS WHERE THEY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.

AN OPEN HOUSE. OPEN HOUSE WHERE THEY NOTIFIED EVERYONE I BELIEVE WITHIN 2-500 FEET NO MATTER IF YOU ARE WITHIN OR WITHOUT SIDE THE CITY LIMIT. THEY HELD IT AT CONFERENCE CENTER. THIS OPEN HOUSE PRIOR TO THE EVEN SUBMITTING APPLICATION WITH THE CITY.

THERE WERE PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE. THAT'S WHEN THEY DECIDED TO DO ON THEIR OWN NOT REQUIREMENT BY THE CITY.

>> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

IS THERE END POINT OF THE PROJECT AFTER 30 YEARS OR SO?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO APPLICANT.

THE SUP AS LONG AS THE PROJECT CONTINUOUS AND DOESN'T CEASE.

IT COULD CONTINUE ON UNTIL IT CEASES OR TERMINATES.

FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. REFER BACK TO APPLICANT.

THE AGREEMENT ELECTRICITY BE SOLD TO GERDAU THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS DISCUSSION. THIS IS JUST FOR THE USE OF THE PRO PRESIDENT. BUT THERE IS A BOND THAT WILL REMOVE. WILL REMOVE THE SOLAR PANEL

UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. >> PART OF THE TERMINATION -- PROBABLY NEED ADDITIONAL.

PARLIAMENT OF TERMINATION THEY ARE REQUIRED TO REMOVE THOSE PANELS REMOVE THE SOLAR RAYS BRING BACK AS NORMAL WAS PRIOR TO THIS WHOLE FARM BEING CREATED.

>> >> QUESTIONS? [INAUDIBLE] STAN?

THERE'S A PRESENTATION. >> WOULD YOU RATHER GO LAST?

>> HE COULD GO LAST IF THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY. [INAUDIBLE] DEVRA MARKFORT. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

I LIVE 1241 EAST WHITE ROAD. 11251, 221 AND 2135 EAST WIDE RIDE. I OWN 26 ACRE.

THIS DRASTICALLY GOING TO EFFECT US.

I MEAN, IT'S SAD OUR VOICES AND CONCERNED HAVE NEVER BEEN ADDRESS ONE YEAR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AND THE CITY OF MID LETTIAN. SPENT OVER 40 HOURS OF RESEARCH ON SOLAR FARMS AND 174 # POWER AND PRESENTED TO THIS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. THE ONLY THINK THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE WAS LISTEN TO THE SWEET PROPOSAL IN GERDAU. OUR PROPERTY IS NO VALUE TO BE TAXED AND CONTROLLED WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO ON OUR PROPERTY.

FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING KEY WE THE CITY O WE E THIS GERDAU AS THEY EMPLOYER OF MIDLOTHIAN. ALSO STATED THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.

I DO NOT DO WHAT I WANT TO DO WHATEVER I WANT ON MY PROPERTY.

THEY ALSO STATED IF THIS PASSES THE SHAREHOLDER OF GERDAU WILL BE HAPPY. ALL OF THIS LAND WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY FOR FUTURE AS RESIDENTIAL.

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THE ONLY PURPOSE FOR ALL THE FEDERAL STATE AND COUNTY TAX CREDITS FOR GERDAU AND FREE ELECTRICITY.

NOWHERE IN U.S. 720 SOLAR FARM IN THE MIDDLE OF CITY.

THEY ARE OUT IN THE DESERT OR PLACES WITH NO RESIDENT.

LOOK AT ALL THEIR PROJECT. THERE'S NO RESIDENTS LIVING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SOLAR FARM.

I HAVE -- I WILL LOSS OF USE AJOYMENT WITH THIS SOLAR FARM ON THREE SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. LOOKING OUT THE FRONT AND BACK AT THE SOLAR PANELS. POSSIBILITY OF CONTAMINATION OF THE CREEK THAT DRAINS FROM THIS AREA DUE TO CHEMICAL KILLING OF WEEDS AND POSSIBLE LADY BECAUSE OF DAMAGED SOLAR.

DECRIESING MY HOME AND LAND VALUE.

THERE'S TWO NEW HOME BEING BUILT THAT WILL HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT SOLAR PANELS ACROSS THE STREET. YOU ANNEXED THIS IN, IN 1988 BEFORE AGERDAU. WE WERE PROMISED THE MAIN REASON TO PROJECT THE US FROM BAD DEVELOPMENT.

YOU WOULD NOT EVEN ALLOW ANY OF US TO MOVE IN MODULE HOME.

IF YOU WOULD HAVE ALLOWED PEOPLE TO THE RESIDENTS TO MOVE THAT IN MODULE HOME GERDAU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS LAND TO THIS DAY.

SEVERAL OF US GOT TURNED DOWN. IT HAD TO BE A MINIMUM OF 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOMES THAT WAS BUILT AND THAT'S WHEN GERDAU STEPPED AND TOOK OFFERED PEOPLE MONEY FOR THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T DO WHAT THEY WANTED THE DO ON THEIR PROPERTY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE IN THE CLEAR-CUT DEAL BETWEEN GERDAU AND THE CITY.

IN THE PACKET FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING KEY THERE WAS SIGNATURE PAGE FOR MAYOR TO SIGN ON MAY 12TH.

MID LET NOW YOU WANT THE ALLOW SOLAR FARM TO BE USED FOR THIS ENJOYMENT. THAT ONE LITTLE TRACK OF LAND THAT YOU ARE I SAYING. THAT'S GERDAU'S PROPERTY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT UGLY SHED WITH HALF THE TIN TORN DOWN.

YOU HAVEN'T MADE THEM CLEAN IT UP.

THE CITY HAS TURNED DOWN SEVERAL OTHER SOLAR FARMS. THIS SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENT. NONE OF THE OTHER ONE WERE EVEN CLOSE TO HUGE 720 ACRE SOLAR FARM.

IT'S NOTICEABLE THE CITY AND GERDAU DOESN'T WANT THE CITIZENS TO NO ABOUT THIS UNTIL IT'S PASSED.

THERE'S 44 ACRE TRACKS TO LAND HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SOLAR

PANELS. >> MAYOR.

ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU GUYS. I E-MAILED EVERY ONE OF YOU ABOUT MY CONCERNS. AND NOT ONE OF YOU GUYS RESPONDED BACK TO ME WHICH IS REALLY SAD.

THANK YOU. >> COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION.

YEAH. >> THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE YOU WOULD AGREE THAT LAND ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWS AS

INDUSTRIAL USE. >> RIGHT.

INDUSTRIAL USE. >> YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA HERE OFFICE BUILDING. 147.

NOT SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE GOING TO EFFECT MY PROPERTY VALUE AND PROBABLY ALL THE OTHER SIDE EFFECT.

174 PLANNING ZONE EXISTING FOR THREE YEARS.

THERE'S NO ESTABLISHED HISTORY. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT MY QUESTION IS. MY QUESTION IS -- THEY OBVIOUSLY OWN THE PROPERTY. AND IT'S ON OUR COME PREMENSY PLAN AS INDUSTRIAL DESIGN. SO THEREFORE WOULD YOU RATHER SEE THAT AS CRUSHED CAR STORAGE OR SEE THAT AS SHREDDER OPERATION 24 HOURS A DAY MAKING NOISE WITH BIG LIGHTS.

WHAT WOULD YOU APROVE OF SINCE THEY OWN THE LAND THEY COULD DO

WITH IT. >> SOMETHING OTHER THAN SOLAR FARM THAT WOULD EFFECT MY PROPERTY.

>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT --

>> LISTEN. >> RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET LOOK AT SOLAR -- WE'RE TALKING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PLANT -- IT WILL TAKE 30 YEARS

FOR THE TWO-FOOT TREES TO GROW. >> THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] NAME ADDRESS AND THREE MINUTES.

>> DUSTY MENTOR 4209 OAK HALLOW. JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY APPROVAL FOR THE GERDAU BEING

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MY FAMILY MOVED HERE 1976. AFTER MY DAD LANDED A JOB AT ONE OF THE LOCAL CEMENT PLANTS. KNOWN AS ASH GROVE TODAY.

MY BROTHER AND SISTER, COUSINS ANXIETIES UNCLES AND GRANDPARENTS ALL CALL MIDLOTHIAN HOME.

I BEGAN GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PERSONAL AND FINANCIAL GROWTH THROUGHOUT MY CAREER. I CAN'T BEGIN TO EXPRESS HOW GREAT IT IS TO HAVE SAFE FAMILY ORIENTED PLACE TO WORK.

WITHOUT THE LONG COMMUTE SOME HAVE TO ENDURE EVERY DAY.

THIS PROJECT IF APPROVED WILL GENERATE COUNTLESS DOLLARS INTO THE COMMUNITY OVER THE PROBLEMS MAYBE TWO-YEAR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD. IN WOULD HELP PROVIDE LOCAL BUSINESSES HOTELS REST RESTAURANT THAT SUFFERED.

I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL MY COWORKERS WHEN I SAY WE'RE ALL BLESSED AND THANKFUL THAT GERDAU CONTINUES TO PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT DURING THESE UNPRECEDENTED TAME. THIS ALTERNATIVE POWER SOURCE WILL ALLOW GERDAU TO CONTINUE NORMAL OPERATIONS DURING PEEK SUMMER MONTHS BY KEEPING OUR POWER COST LOW AND REDUCING OUR DEMAND ON THE POWER GRID. THIS PROJECT WILL BEOUT A DOUBT HELP SUPPORT MY JOB, MY FAMILY FOR YEARS TO COME AS WELL AS ENSURING THE FUTURE OF ABOUT 1 ONE THOUSAND COW WORKER.

I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF GERDAU. I'M STAN BACKAM.

LET ME FIRST OF ALL SAY HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME MOST OF ALL WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

I SAT RIGHT THERE FROM 1990 TO '96 I KNOW YOU ARE NOT PAID NEAR ENOUGH TO LISTEN ABOUT GARAGES. I KNOW THAT.

BUT FOR THAT I SINCERELY MEAN IT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. WE REALLY DO.

WHEN YOU SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY YOU SERVE BECAUSE YOUR LOVE YOUR COMMUNITY. I GREW UP HERE.

BORN AND RAISED HERE. WENT TO SCHOOL YEAR 12 YEAR I SAID NEVER WANT TO SEE MIDLOTHIAN.

WHAT DID I DO WHEN I GRADUATED COLLEGE.

I CAME BACK. I STARTED WORK CHAPARRAL STEEL IN 1984 THEY HAVE BLESSED MY FAMILY AND MANY FAMILIES IN COMMUNITY AND COUNTY AND THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND SO WE ARE SO THANKFUL TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EMPLOYMENT AND PROVIDE COMPANY -- THE COMPANY CAN PROVIDE WHAT WE DO PROVIDE. WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEN I WILL LET DEAN TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE OUR PAYROLL IN LITTLE MIDLOTHIAN FOR GERTAU IS OVER 100 MILLION. THEY PAYROLL TO EMPLOYEES.

HUGE CONTRIBUTION TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

THEN THERE'S OTHER SUPPLIERS. CONTRACTORS IT GROWS EXPONENTIALLY BEYOND THAT. IF WE CAN GO TO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I CONTROL THAT, SORRY.

WE HAVE 8% OF EMPLOYMENT. 1% OF ELLIS COUNTY.

I BELIEVE WE'RE OVER 1,000 EMPLOYEES ROUGHLY.

AND WE CONTRIBUTE 3.3 MILLION IN SALES TAX PER YEAR.

THIS BIG DEAL ABOUT 1 MILLION OF THAT STAYS IN THE MIDLOTHIAN.

WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED WE FOUND OUT REAL QUICK WHERE DO THE SALES TAX DOLLARS COME FROM. A LOT COME FROM ACQUISITION OF SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS. G OWE RDAU CONTRIBUTES 4 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES ANNUALLY AND THAT'S 2 MILLION DIRECTLY TO MIDLOTHIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT RECALL. MOST OF YOU DON'T RECALL.

THIS PLANT WAS BUILT IN 1974. OKAY.

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THE PLANT IS GETTING OLD. IT REQUIRE A LOT OF INVESTMENT NOW AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO STEP UP AND MAKE REALLY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS TO KEEP THIS PLANT ALIVE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

WE HAVE GOT TO COMPETE WITH CHINESE STEEL PRODUCERS.

OTHER FOREIGN PRODUCER, WANTING TO COME INTO THIS COUNTRY.

SO FORTUNATELY WE'RE OWNED BY A COMPANY GERDAU WILLING TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT. WE HAVE OBSTACLE THAT WE NEED YOU TO HELP US WITH. DEAN WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DEAN PERRY. HERE'S OUT PLANT MANAGER HERE IN

MIDLOTHIAN. >> I THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THE PROJECT AND WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO TRYING TO GET TO PRESENTABLE PROJECT.

HOPEFULLY THIS WON'T BE TOO TERRIBLY DIFFICULT.

WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF SLIDES. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT IN THE WORKSHOP. WE'RE TRYING NOT TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT GARAGES HERE EITHER. WHY DO WE NEED THE PROJECT.

BASICALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO AND YOU KNOW POWER PRICES IN TEXAS ARE CRAZY. WE HAVE OPEN.

PRICES RESET EVERY FIVE MINUTES. AND THIS SITUATION WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. DURING THE SUMMER WE SEE THE HUGE POWER SPIKES AND THEY ARE ALWAYS IN THE AFTERNOON.

WHEN DOES IT SPIKE IT'S TIME WIND POWER LOW.

TIME WHEN TEMPERATURE ARE HIGH. YOU KNOW AND THAT'S THE REALITY.

ON OUR GRID HOW HIGH WOULD PRICES GO TO CONVINCE EVERYONE TO SHUT OFF AIR CONDITIONER IN THE SUMMER.

HIGHER THAN APPARENTLY 9,000 MEGAWATT.

NO ONE DOES IT. HOW HIDE TO GO WAL-MART TO SHUT OFF POWER? ONE OF FEW PLACES THAT DOES CURTAIL OUR STEEL MILL. 9,000 MEGAWAT THAT'S 1.5 MILLION AN HOUR TO OPERATE THE PLANT. WE WILL NOT OPERATE 1.5 MILLION AN HOUR. LIT NOT HAPPEN.

THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

PART OF THE PROBLEM IS HOW DO YOU CONVINCE PEOPLE WE NEED TO REINVEST IN PLANT WHEN WE HAVE THIS SITUATION AND WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE. I PERSONALLY CAME FROM A PLANT IN ARIZONA YOU CAN GOOGLE IT ONLINE.

IT'S KLOSSED BECAUSE WHEN THE POWER PRICES IN 2000 HIT IN CALIFORNIA. WE WENT FROM PAYING 20 MEGAWAT TO 200 MEGAWAT BETWEEN MARCH AND MAY THE PLANT NEVER RAN AGAIN AFTER THAT. I'VE SEEN THIS PERSONALLY WHAT HAPPENS. THESE MARKET CAN'T GET OUT OF CONTROL. SO THIS THE MAIN ISSUE.

ELECTRICITY PRICE VARIABILITY OVER TIME.

SO THIS PLANT CERTAINLY A I LINES WITH THE POWER PROFILES THAT WE SEE. ACROSS THE STATE.

THIS PLANT WILL BE PEEKING AT THE SAME TIME THE LOADS ARE PEEKING IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND HELPING TO PROVIDE POWER

DURING THE HOT SUMMER MONTHS. >> THIS SLIDE JUST AGAIN AND I THINK TRENT SHOWED IT EARLIER. WHERE THE SOLAR PANELS WILL BE LOCATED. I WILL NOT SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS. YOU SEEN IT.

THE QUESTION CAME UP A FEW MINUTES AGO AND GLAD I LEFT THE SLIDE IN. THESE PANEL WILL NOT GO MORE THAN 8 FEET. YOU'RE CORRECT ON THAT WHEN YOU SAID THAT. ORDINANCE THE 15.

THESE ARE ABOUT EIGHT. PANELS ARE YOU CAN SEE JUST OVER ABOUT 6 FEET LONG. PIVOT POINT ABOUT FOUR-FOOT OFF THE GROUND. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OVER THAT 8-FOOT LIMIT. THIS ONE KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THE PLANT WILL LOOK FROM 67 I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAD ASKED AND SOME FEEDBACK WE GOT WHAT WILL IT LACK LIKE.

THIS PICTURE DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

THIS IS JUST AN OPEN FIELD. THIS WHAT WE ENVISION FOR SOLAR PANEL. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS.

YOU WILL NOTICE THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM YOU SEE TIRE PLANT.

YOU LOOK AT THE TOP YOU DON'T SEE IT OFF OF 67.

THAT'S ONE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. IT DOES HELP COVER UP THAT EYESORE THAT IS THERE. THE STEEL POWER PLANT.

THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. THIS THE FROM WEATHERFORD ROAD.

WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

I WANTED TO KEEP IT SHORT. I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN IT ALREADY.

I WOULD RATHER TAKE TIME WITH QUESTIONS THAN PRESENTING THU YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT. I WOULD REFER YOU TO THE PACKET THAT YOU ALL HAVE. WE PREPARED A COMPLETE I THINK ANSWERS TO MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE QUESTIONS ABOUT RUN OFF AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AND SUBMITTED THAT LAST WEEK.

THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL AS FAR AS THE ANSWERS TO

THOSE QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS. JUST TWO EASY ONES.

SOMEONE THAT LIVES BY HER WANT ME TO ASK TWO QUESTIONSND HE'S

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>> ONE, IS THE CEMENT PLANT IN THE STEEL MILL, I WORKED AT CERTAIN DEWEY MORE I DON'T THINK COME OUT CAR COVERED AND DIRT TOOK VINEGAR AND SCRUBBING TO GET IT OFF.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON CLEANING PROCESS OR SOLAR PANELS -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY SELF-CLEANING. THAT'S NOT THE WORD I WANT TO USE. ARE THEY RESISTANT TO THAT?

>> 174 BE CLEANING THEM. THAT'S PART OF THE JOB.

THEY DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE BASED IN M MIDLOTHIAN. THERE'S MACHINE THAT CLEAN THEM.

ONE SLIDE SHOWS A PICTURE OF IT. >> DOING RESEARCH I SAW THE TRUCK MOUNTED ONE THEY DRIVE ASIDE AT SCRUB IT ALL OFF.

THE SECOND ONE WAS HE LIVES OVER THERE WILL HE EXPECT A TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE ASKING HOW HE SAID THIS.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU TAKE A PIECE OF BLACK PLYWOOD AND LAY

IT YOU CAN FEEL THE HEAT. >> SHOULD HE SEE HEAT CHANGE

EFFECTS FROM THE SOLAR PANELS? >> WE WOULDN'T EXPECT TO SEE ANY. THAT QUESTION BROUGHT UP IN ONE OF THE OPEN MEETINGS WE HAD. 174 DID A LOT OF WORK.

I THINK THERE MAY BE A SLIDE IN THE PACKET IN THAT PARTICULAR.

WE -- THE STUDIES WE SHOW WE DON'T INDICATE THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM OUTSIDE OF THE IMMEDIATE ARRAY AREA.

>> WHAT'S THE LIFE OF THE SOLAR FARM?

>> WE WOULD EXPECT THE LIFE TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 35 YEARS.

WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER.

AT THE END OF THE LIFE OF ARRAY. 17 RESPONSIBLE FOR REMOVING THAT. THAN HAVE TO PUT SURITY BOND TO US TO MAKE SURE IT'S REMOVED. IT'S 7-FIGURE NUMBER THEY PUT UP TO MAKE SURE THIS SYSTEM GETS REMOVED AT THE END OF THE LIFE

SPAN. >> I GOT ONE MORE NOW.

>> IF GERDAU GOES OUT OF BUSINESS.

CAN THE SOLAR FARM CAN'T TO SELL TO THE STATE.

>> YES, SIR. >> WILL IT SELL TO GRID WHEN NOT USED BY GERDAU. MY UNDERSTANDING THEY SOLD EVERYTHING TO GERDAU. THEY WILL REDISTRICT.

>> WE HAVE TO BUY100% OF POWER. IF WE CONSUME IT THAT'S FINE.

IF WE DON'T WE GET WHATEVER PRICE IN THE MARKET AT THAT

TIME. >> AND THEY ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE SOLAR PANEL ACTUALLY ATTACHED BEHIND OUR METER. IT'S JUST LIKE EQUIPMENT ON YOUR ROOF. IT'S THE SAME BASIC EFFECT.

>> YES, SIR. >> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I CAN THINK THAT COULD COME TO ANYONE'S MIND WILL BE THROUGH YOUR SURETY BOND PROCESS IS SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG SOLAR PANEL CAN UPHOLD THEIR END OF THE OBLIGATION.

IT'S PROTECTED ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH THIS PROJECT NOT INCLUDING THE QUESTIONS ASKED IF GERDAU WOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SURITY BOND. THAT WILL GET EVERYTHING CLEANED UP AND OUT OF THERE. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL.

THIS PROJECT 174 BUILDS LIKE YOUR HOUSE; RIGHT? THEY TAKE OUT A LOAN TO BUILD THIS.

THE BANK REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE INSURANCE.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE POWER WHETHER THEY PRODUCE OR NOT. THEIR INSURANCE POLICY ARRAY WAS DAMAGED OR SOMETHING HAPPENED COVER LOSS OF USE OF PANEL THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY HAS TO REIMBURSE THAT POWER ESSENTIALLY. THERE'S A COMPLETE INSURANCE POLICY WITHIN THAT, THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE BANKS.

WITHIN THAT TO PROTECT THAT IN THE EVENT OF SOMETHING

HAPPENING. >> YES, SIR.

THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED IT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL INSURANCE COMPANY USUALLY D -- DRAG YOU OUT.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE CLAUSE WHERE THEY HAVE TO REIMBURSE LOSS, THEY ARE THE BIGGEST FAN OF GETTING BACK IN OPERATION.

THEY KEEP PAYING CLAIMS UNTIL BACK IN OPERATION.

WHAT RATE DO THEY PROVIDE ELECTRICITY.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE FARM AND THEY PROVIDE ELECTRICITY.

HOW MUCH WILL THEY CHARGE YOU? >> THE GOING RATE ON THE MARKET.

>> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE CASE THAT PLANT -- THEY WOULD HAVE TO

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THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DELIVER IT.

>> YES, SIR. >> I THINK STAND YOU HAD ABOUT

1,000 EMPLOYEE DIRECT EMPLOYEES? >> WE HAVE OVER 900 DIRECT AND WE HAVE WITH PEOPLE THAT COME TO WORK WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTOR

IT'S OVER 1,000. >> I KNOW YOU ARE THE BIG FISH THEN THERE'S OTHER SMALLER COMPANIES.

DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES THAT RELY ON

GERDAU. >>

>> ANOTHER 5 OR 600. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER. IS THAT ALL?

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK. NAME ADDRESS.

>> DUANE BENAH. 531 MID MID MIDLOTHIAN GARAGE.

>> HERE WE GO. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

ON THE 30-YEAR EMPLOYEE. I GOT 6 KIDS.

THE INVOLVEMENT I HAD IN MY SCHOOL, MY SIX KIDS THEY GREW UP IN COMMUNITY THE ENVIRONMENT WAS EXTREMELY POSITIVE I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I AM IN SUPPORT OF GERDAU AND THE SYSTEM. THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT EMPLOYER TO ME. AND TO AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND UP TO CURRENT THREE OF MY CHILDREN SO I NOW HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT ARE GROWN UP IN MIDLOTHIAN.

WITH THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE THAT MIDLOTHIAN IS TODAY. IT'S DEFINITELY GROWN, EXPANDED WHEN I WAS A KID. THERE WAS 800 PEOPLE NOW THERE'S 30,000 PLUS. ENVIRONMENT A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT CAME IN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO DALLAS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ARLINGTON.

THEY WOULD NOT BE. YOU WOULDN'T BE IN MIDLOTHIAN AND BE ABLE TO ENJOY LIKE TODAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

>> I WILL SAY THAT STAKES ARE HIGH.

WE'RE TALKING 1500 ROUGHLY JOBS THAT'S HUGE FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. ESPECIALLY IN THIS CURRENT ECONOMIC CLIMATE. AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THEY COULD COME AND BUILDUP TO 15 FEET UNDER THE OR NANGS AS IT

IS. >> UNDER THE ORDINANCE SOLAR FARM CAN REQUEST 15 FEET. HOWEVER IN THAT SPECIFIC USE THAT CAN BE LIMITED. FOR THE ORDINANCE TOO.

IT BE APPROVED. WE HAVE TO APPROVE INCREASE.

>> DECREASE. IF YOU WANT TO DECREASE -- -- ORDINANCE SAYS 15.

>> THE BASE SAID >> THEY HAVE PERMISSION.

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>> THAT'S MY QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. >> EIGHT OR TEN.

>> A LITTLE MARGIN. >> THEY COULDN'T GET HERE.

I APOLOGIZE THEY COULDN'T BE HERE.

>> RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WITH THE WATER FEATURES ARE RIGHT HERE.

THESE ARE WETLANDS. SO, THEY CAN'T CONSTRUCT ANYTHING HERE.

IT'S PRETTY WIDE. THERE'S TREES IN THERE. SOME THOUGHT THEY COULD DO WITHOUT PROPERTY. THE NEED TO LEAVE IT NATURAL IN THIS AREA AND ALONG RIGHT HERE.

HERE IS A BETTER PLACE THAT YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR CHANGE. RIGHT, IT'S THE WETLANDS.

SOME OF THESE PLACES ACTUALLY WONDER THAT THE 20 FEET LANDSCAPE.

>> I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING BECAUSE THE ANGLE. >> HIGHWAY 67.

>> OKAY. IT WOULD BE ON THE VENOUS SIDE OF THIS BUILD.

>> NEARS PORTION OF IT. >> HE'S ASKING FOR 12 FOOT. POST MIGHT HAVE TO BE HIGHER.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR 12 FOOT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. >> OKAY.

[LAUGHTER]. OKAY WE MAKE A MOVE TO APPROVE. WITH THE 12 FOOT LIMIT ON THE HEIGHT. OKAY MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS WITH EXCEPTION TO LIMITING THE

HEIGHT TO 12 FEET. >> I'VE GOT IT. >> PLEASE VOTE.

ASK SECOND TIM. >> ONE OF THESE GUYS. [LAUGHTER].

I HEARD A SECOND SO YES. >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. NUMBER LOOKING FOR THE NEXT.

MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. 2020 Ã146 CONSIDER ACT REQUEST

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SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WERE STREET WITH AND PAVE. >> THANK YOU PARENT COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 4TH PHASE OF JORDAN ESTATES, JORDAN RUNDLE ESTATES. SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. THIS PROPERTY DOES FALL WITHIN THE ET J OF THE CITY. APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR EXCEPTION TO THE DETAILS WITH STREET WITH. THE INITIAL PHASE OF JORDAN RUN WHICH WAS PHASES ONE THROUGH 3 WERE CONSTRUCTED UNDER ELLIS COUNTY STANDARDS WHICH ABOUT BEING ONLY 22 FEET WIDE FOR PAVED CONCRETE. THEY WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE A 3 FOOT WIDE SHOULDER ON EITHER SIDE. AS THE CITY HAS GROWN THE CT J IS EXPANDED WITH PHASE 4 NOW FALLING WITHIN THE ET JOINT AREA. OUR STANDARD REQUIRED 28 FEET WITH 2 FEET WIDE STABILIZED SUBGRADE SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE.

APPLICANT IS ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER 24 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE PAVEMENT WITH 4 FOOT WIDE FLEX SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO FILE AS THIS DOES NOT MEET THE CITY'S CONSTRUCTION STANDARD DETAILS.

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>> SO CURRENTLY THEY'VE GOT B& LOOKS SECOND. >> CURRENTLY THEY HAVE AN OIL

TOP ROAD QUITE. >> COUNTY MAINTAINED ROAD. YES SIR.

>> WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION IT'S CONCRETE. IT'S CONCRETE.

OFF OF 875 THOSE MIGHT BE TOUGH BUT IN THE SUBDIVISION IT'S CONCRETE.

>> OKAY. MY FAULT. >> THIS IS THE ACTUAL PICTURE OF, I'M SORRY ABOUT FAMILIAR WITH OIL TOP. I DIDN'T GET THE TERM

CORRECTLY. YES, EVERYTHING IS CONCRETE. >> I HAVE THIS CONFUSED WITH

THE JORDAN ESTATES ON THE HILLTOP UP THERE. >> OKAY THIS WAS THE ONE ON THE

BOTTOM. >> EXACTLY. I'M WITH YOU.

GO AHEAD. EUROPE. >> NOPE, I HAVE THE SAME

CONFUSION. >> HOPEFULLY I GOT THE RIGHT SUBJECT PROPERTY ON HERE.

THAT SHOULD BE RIGHT. >> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. >> OKAY GOT YOU.

>> WHAT IS OUR STANDARD OF WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR AGAIN? >> OUR STANDARD IN OUR CONSTRUCTION STANDARD DETAIL IS 20 FEET WIDE OF CONCRETE PAVING.

>> THERE 22? >> TURNING TO IS IN JORDAN RUN STATES.

THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR OPTICAL ALL THE WAY UP TO 28 FEET.

THE LOOKING AT DOING 24 FEET. THEY WOULD STILL ADD THE 4 FOOT WIDE SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE SO YOU ULTIMATELY WOULD STILL GET 30 TO FOOT WIDE SPAN. OUR STANDARDS WOULD TYPICALLY LOOK FOR. AGAIN YOU'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH PAVEMENT, CONCRETE

PAVEMENT THAT IS. >> 'SOTHER STARTING ANOTHER PHASE?

>> YES SIR, THE FINAL PHASE. >> DO WE HAVE A PD FOR THAT PHASE?

>> NO SIR. IT'S COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

THIS RIGHT HERE SIGNIFIES THE CITY LIMITS. THESE COLORS ON THIS LOCATION.

THE ET J BECAUSE WE'VE EXPANDED OVER TIME AS WE'VE ANNEXED WE ARE NOW ET J ALSO EXPANDS AND AS WE REACHED A CERTAIN POPULATION OUR ATG WENT FROM ONE MILE TO 2 MILE BUFFER.

THAT IS WHAT IS NOW ULTIMATELY IS ENCAPSULATED THIS AREA. >> ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ANNEX IN THE ET J WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WE STILL HAVE

SOME OF OUR STANDARDS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE IN THE ET J. >> WROTE STANDARDS ESPECIALLY.

>> UNTIL NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. >> WE CAN ENFORCE THE STANDARD

THEN? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE MAY BRING IT IN ONE DAY.

>> THAT WAS A LOGIC BACK WHEN WE HAD FORCED ANNEXATION IS BUILT OUR STANDARDS SO WE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP GOING TO THE CITY. NEXT THEY CAN ALWAYS VOLUNTEER ANNEX.

>> RIGHT. WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE UP OUR STANDARDS.

>> HONOR WITH STANDARDS WITH THE CARBON GATOR? >> THERE IS NO CURB AND GUTTER.

>> UNDERSTAND THERE ISN'T ONE THERE. I WOULD UNDERSTAND A PREFERENCE OF ROAD WITH ESPECIALLY WITH IN CURB AND GUTTER SUBDIVISIONS PROVIDES FOR AN ALLOWANCE OF A LOT OF ON STREET PARKING. THAT WOULD BE THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT WITH.

RIGHT OR WRONG? >> FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT?

>> SO WHERE I'M HEADED WITH MY QUESTION IN WHICH I'M QUITE I'VE COME IN CONTACT WITH THIS TYPE OF STREET A LOT WHEN I'M OUT WORKING. BECAUSE IT'S IN A RULE, MORE RURAL SETTING. THERE IS VERY, VERY LITTLE ON STREET PARKING IN THIS TYPE OF SETTING. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE LARGER LOTS ON LONGER DRIVEWAYS. WHY WOULD HE WANT, I GUESS I'M QUESTIONING WHY WOULD WE WANT TO IMPOSE THAT LITTLE EXTRA AND EVEN IF YOU DO PARK THERE GONNA PARK ON INTO THE DITCH.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S OUR ORDINANCE AND IT'S THE WAY WE DO IT. WHAT'S THE BIG ISSUE IF IT'S

NOT CURB AND GUTTER? >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE IS WHEN PEOPLE DO BECAUSE OF THE SUBDIVISION WHEN YOU START OFF 24 FEET AND WHEN YOU HEAD BACK TO THE BACK PART 20

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A LOT OF TIMES WHERE THE DITCH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD LIKE THIS CONDITION RIGHT HERE. ALL THESE CARS DON'T WANT TO PARK IN THE DITCH THE PARK ON THE PAVEMENT. WHEN YOU HAVE 2 CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES AND IT'S ON RARE OCCASIONS BUT IT DOES HAPPEN IT'S HARD TO GET AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE THROUGH IF AND WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN. THE 28 FOOT STANDARD IS OUR STANDARD FROM STANDPOINT OF YOU GOT THE 28 THE 2 FOOT SHOULDER SO YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT YOU CAN PULL OVER AND PARK ON

VERSUS OUR 31 FOOT WITH THE CURB AND GUTTER STREET. >> ARE THEY PROPOSING 24 FOOT?

>> YES SIR. >> SO, THEREFORE POSING 24 FOOT AND WE PREFER 28 FOOT.

>> OUR STANDARDS IS 28. YES SIR. >> I'M GUESSING A CAR WITH GONNA CALL IT 6 FOOT WIDE. PARDON? I WAS, WE WILL MAKE IT 7. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT 8? LET'S MAKE A DATE. IF YOU TAKE 8 AND THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR PER SIDE. LIKE YOU JUST SHOWED THE PICTURE ON THE FULL AGREE WITH WHAT WILL TRACKED 8 FEET OFF THE 24 PERCEIVES US TO 16. IF YOU TAKE 28 FOOT STRAIGHT WITH THAT HAS CURB AND GUTTER AND YOU PUT IT AND I'VE PROVIDED FOR 8 FOOT FOR 2 CARS.

THAT'S 4 FOOT HOUSE. >> IT WOULD BE 31 KATZMAN FOR CURB AND GUTTER.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY 30 FOOT PAVEMENT AREA FROM FACE TO CURB FACE TO CURB.

>> 31 2016 42 CARS 8 FOOTERS. THAT CAN'T PARK IN THE DITCH. IT IS GOING TO GIVE US 14 TO 15

FEET AM I THINKING RIGHT? >> YES SIR. >> THE GETTING ANOTHER FOOT THE MOST CONDITIONS OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE IN TOWN BY DOING THE 24.

>> IT DEPENDS IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY PARKING OUTSIDE THE PAVEMENT.

>> HE'S ALSO PROVIDING A SOFT FLEX SPACE SIDE ON THAT TOO. SHOULDERS?

>> YES THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. >> I'M SAYING WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING PROVIDES MORE PARKING SPACE AND TRAVEL THROUGH THEM WHAT WE WOULD HAVE IN TOWN.

IF I'M RIGHT. >> IF IT'S BUILT THAT WAY. IF YOU GO BACK, I'M NOT SURE WITH THE COUNTY STANDARD WAS WITH THIS MORNING. IF THIS MORNING HAS THE COUNTY'S 3 FOOT

SHOULDER THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IT'S REALLY NOT A SHOULDER. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M USED TO SEEING.> BUILDERS COMMAND PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THE GRASS AND IRRIGATION IN DUBAI, STUFF.

THIS WOULD BE OUTSIDE. WHEN I COULD BE CONTROLLING THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T DO PARK BUILDING PERMITS OUT THE TJ. THAT WILL BE INCUMBENT ON THE PERMIT BUILDER TO FIX IT.

IF YOU ADD THE 24 AND WAS SHOULDERS THEN YES YOU WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL WIDTHS THAT

PEOPLE CAN PULL IN A PARK. >> I'VE ADMIT I'VE NOT SEEN ANY OF THESE CONCRETE STREETS WITH ANY OF THE FLEX BASICALLY SUBDIVISIONS. THIS WOULD BE AN ADDED COMPONENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I'M USED TO SEEING. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE.

PROVIDED EXTRA FOOT OR 2 OF WITH THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN TOWN WITH ALL THE CONCRETE.

>> ANSWER. >> THANK YOU. >> TO UNDERSTAND OR CAN AND STREETS? ARE THEY ADDING STREETS OUT THERE?

OR DID I HEAR THAT? >> THIS NEXT PHASE, YES SIR. >> WHAT WILL BE THE WIDTHS?

>> THE FIRST SEVERAL PHASES, 3 PHASES WERE IN THE COUNTY. THEY ARE AT 22 FEET.

WHEN THEY CAME IN WITH THIS AND THIS BECAME INNER ET J OR LOOKING AT OUR STANDARDS HAS 28

FEET. THE COUNTY SAYS 22 TO 24. >> THIS IS FOR NEW ROADS?

>> YES SIR. THEY'RE ASKING IT TO BE REDUCED FROM 20 TO 24 PROVIDED TO HAVE

THE SHOULDERS. >> THE NEW ONES ARE MOSTLY LIKE THEY ARE?

>> YES SIR. THERE JUST LIKE THEY ARE. >> IN THE FLEX SPACE SHOULDERS

WILL BE AN OVERALL 31 OR 32 COUNTING THE FLEX BASE? >> ANSWERED.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. THAT I'M CLEAR ON THE WIDTH AND WHAT IT TAKES TO GET A FIRE

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>> HOW WIDER THOSE STREETS? >> CODY HUNTER I THINK SOME PLACES GOOD DOWN FROM CURB FACE TO CURB FACE TO ABOUT 21 FEET. SO THE NEW STACK TO CARS AND YOU CAN'T GET A MOPED THROUGH THERE. VERY RARELY DO WE FIND CARS TO PARK ON THE EDGE OF THAT CONCRETE. I NORMALLY GIVE ABOUT A 12 INCH BUFFER COMING OFF OF THAT THAT'S WHERE THE ENTIRE BALLPARK. THE REASON I SAY 8 FEET IS MOST VEHICLES HAVE BIG EARS THAT STICK OFF OF THEM. IF I GO 12 INCHES OFF WITHOUT CURB AND PARK AND HAVE AN 8 FOOT VEHICLE THEN I GO OVER HERE AND I GET 12 INCHES OFF AN 8 FOOT VEHICLE THAT'S 18 FEET. IT'S NOW OCCUPYING THAT 24 FOOT WIDE ROAD.

I'VE GOT ABOUT 67 FEET. I'M NOT GETTING A FIRE TRUCK THROUGH THERE.

IF THERE PARKED IN THAT ROAD LIKE THAT I'M NOT GETTING THROUGH IT.

I HAVE TO GO AROUND AND FIND ANOTHER WAY IN. WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND AS WE START TO SQUEEZE THE ROADS IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO GET TO THOSE CALLS.

MY INTERESTS ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 9 AND A HALF FEET WIDE. THAT'S WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TAILPIPE STICKING OUT THAT WAS SCRATCHED SOME PAIN. IT'S NOT EASY TO THREAD THE

NEEDLE SOMETIMES. >> I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 10. DOWN TO MIDTOWN I GET ABOUT 2 INCHES IN SOME SPOTS. ANYWAY I JUST WANTED LET YOU KNOW THAT IS MY PERSPECTIVE ON

THE ROAD WIDTHS. >> WHAT EXACTLY IS FLEX SPACE? >> I KNOW THAT IT'S, I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE. IT'S A PORTABLE? IS IT DRIVABLE.

>> YES IT IS IT'S GRAVEL ROADS. IT'S FLEX BASE. YOU TYPICALLY PUT THAT UNDERNEATH AND A LOT OF TIMES WITH YOUR ASPHALT STREETS YOU WILL PUT FLEX SPACE DOWN AND ASPHALT ON TOP OF IT. THAT'S THE BASE COURSE. IT DOES HAVE WEARING CAPABILITY. IT DOES HAVE THE CAPABILITY AS WELL.

TYPICALLY IT WILL BE A LOW EXPENSIVE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT YOU CAN COMPACT.

>> OUR GOAL IS A TOTAL OF 32 FOOT, RIGHT? >> THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE

PROPOSING. >> I'M SORRY IT CATCHING UP. WHAT IS THE CITY'S

REQUIREMENTS? >> OUR REQUIREMENT IS A 28 FOOT OF A CONCRETE PAVEMENT.

THEN WE HAVE 2 FOOT SHOULDERS. THE 2 FOOT SHOULDERS ARE NOT MADE UP OF FLEX PLACE.

THE MADE UP OF THE SUBGRADE THAT'S HERE THAT'S LIME TREATED.

>> THEIR PROPOSED 24 FOOT OF CONCRETE +8 FOOT OF FLEX PIECE, FOR EACH SIDE WHICH FORGETTING

THE 32.HICH IS MORE WHICH IS WHAT THE MIC WAS MAKING. >> WE DON'T REQUIRE THE FLEX PLACE. WE REQUIRE MORE PAVING NOT THE FLEX SPACE.

>>. [INDISCERNABLE]. >> IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IF IT DOES LOOK LIKE FLEX SPACE AND IT IS PART OF THE ROAD THAN PEOPLE WILL WANT TO HAVE A TENDENCY TO PULL OFF ON IT. IF IT IS SODDED AND IRRIGATED STUFF LIKE THAT AND LOOKS LIKE A GUARD AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL NOT PULL OFF ON IT.

>> THE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION FROM PUTTING DOWN FLEX BASE MYSELF.

WHEN YOU GET THE INITIAL FLEX SPACE DOWN WHEN IT GOES UP A LITTLE BIT IT DOES STILL SUPPORT WELL.OU ARE CORRECT IF PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THE FLEX BASE THEY WILL NOT BE AS TENANT

TO PULL OFF ON IT. >> MARCOS WHAT IS IT SAY STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL?

REFRESH MY MEMORY. >> THE MAIN REASON IS WE HAVE A STANDARD.

OUR STANDARD IS 20 FEET. 2 FOOT SHOULDERS.HAT'S WHAT'S BEEN ADOPTED.

IF AT OTHER DEVELOPERS ASK CAN WE REDUCE THE PAINTING. WE ALWAYS SAY WE CAN'T REDUCE IT YOU HAVE TO GO TO COUNSEL. THIS WAS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT STARTED OFF COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF OUR ET J. WAS IT EVEN INNER ET J. IT'S A DIFFERENT CASE THAN

WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER ONES. >> IS THE ROAD WITH THE FLEX SPACE IS A COMPLETELY LEVEL AND

THOUGHT GREAT. >> IT'S LIKE A CROWN. LIKE AT 2 PERCENT.

>> SLOPE? >> ON HERE THE NEW ONES SHOULD BE IN THE NEW AREA THEY ARE 2 OF THE SHOULDERS IT WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE 2 PERCENT OF THE ROADS.

IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY FLAT. >> WON'T DROP OFF LIKE THAT ONE DOES?

>> RIGHT. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR DITCHES ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>> OKAY. >> POWERPOINT PRESENTATION I HAVE EQUIPMENT TOGETHER WELL.

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IT IS LOCATED AT LAUREL ROAD AT 875. AS YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST 3 PHASES COMBINED HAD ABOUT 94 HOMES ALL ACRE LOTS. THE 4TH PHASE IS A PROPOSED 74 HOMES WHILE THE TOTAL AREA IS ABOUT THE SAME DUE TO THE ODD SHAPE AND ITS TOPOGRAPHY BEING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAINAGE BASIN IS NOT AS EFFICIENT. THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT THE ONLY AT 74 HOMES PROPOSED THERE. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

I BRING UP THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT NOT BECAUSE IT PARTICULARLY PERTAINS TO PAVEMENT WITH BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN. IT WAS NOT MAPPED.

NONE OF THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS, THE FIRST 3 PHASES OF JORDAN RUN DID PROVIDE ATTENTION. NONE OF THE OTHER JORDAN UP ON THE ESCARPMENT PROVIDED ATTENTION SO WE ARE HAVING TO BEAR THAT COST. THAT IS A PART OF THE PROJECT WE KNEW ABOUT GOING INTO IT. WE WERE WILLING TO BEAR THAT COST.

WERE PROVIDING A FEMA DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AS WELL FOR REVIEW. WE ARE PROVIDING ALL OF THAT MODELING AND RECLAIMING AND MAPPING THE FLOODPLAIN SO THAT'S A BIG BENEFIT FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY REALLY.

JUST REAL QUICKLY HERE IS THE GRAPHIC FROM THE CITY OF BELOW THE STANDARD DETAILS.

AS WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IT'S 28 FEET IS THE STANDARD OF CONCRETE WITH 2 FOOT ROCK SHOULDERS US WITH THE MIDLOTHIAN STANDARD IS. IT'S 2 FOOT ROCK SHOULDERS BEYOND THAT. THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL SECTION WITH OF 32 FEET WITH A 28 FEET OF CONCRETE +2 FEET ON EACH SIDE OF ROCK. THIS IS THE CURRENT AS OF TODAY ELLIS COUNTY STANDARD. IT IS A 22 FOOT WIDE PAVEMENT SECTION OF CONCRETE WITH 3 FOOT ROCK SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE. THAT IS THE CURRENT STANDARD WHICH WE HAD DESIGNED THE PROJECT FOR AND INITIALLY ANTICIPATED. HERE IS AGAIN THE CHART OF THE ELLIS COUNTY CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS NOTING 22 FEET OF PAVEMENT SECTION.

THIS IS OUT OF THE MIDLOTHIAN FIRE CODE PREVENTION AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE.

MINIMUM LENGTH IN ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT IS 24 FEET WIDE.

THAT HELPS US LAND ON THE PROPOSAL OF WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE 24 FEET AND DRC HIGHLY ENCOURAGED US TO COME IN WITH A COMPROMISE OF SORTS. WE FELT THAT 24 FEET WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE BECAUSE IT DOES MEET THE MINIMUM FIRE LANE WIDTHS AND ALSO WOULD BE PROVIDING THE MINIMUM TURNING RADIUS AS WELL OF 30 FEET ON THOSE RELEASES AT INTERSECTIONS. ON THE MIDLOTHIAN PRELIMINARY PLAT CHECKLIST MENTIONS UNDER ITEM 8 THE NAME AND WITH OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED STREETS AND ROADWAYS.

ON THE ELLIS COUNTY PRELIMINARY PLAT CHECKLIST AND ALSO NOTES THE LOCATION AND WIDTH OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED STREETS BE LABELED ON A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT IS BEEN APPROVED TWICE BY PNC.

FIRST TIME DECEMBER 18, 2018. THAT IT WAS REAPPROVED ON DECEMBER 17, 2019 BOTH TIMES WHEN THROUGH DRC, STAFF COMMENTS AND CLEARLY ON THE MULTIPLE PAGES OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THE ROADWAY WITH WAS LABELED A 22 FEET WIDE.

AS REQUIRED BY THE CHECKLIST. >> BEFORE YOU MOVE ON I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S ABOUT A REPUBLIC 22 FEET. HOW DID THIS COME BACK UP FOR US TO MAKE ANOTHER PHASE?

>> AT THE SAME PHASE. >> KHOL, I'M SORRY. >> WE HAD TO APPROVE THE PLAT

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REVIEW AND THAT'S WHEN IT CAME UP. >> STEVE Ã5151 OUTLINE.

FOR THE DEVELOPER. THIS DIDN'T COME UP AT ALL UNTIL THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS WERE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL. THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND THIS CAME UP WITH

THE CITY APPROVAL PROCESS. >> I BRING IT UP IT WAS APPROVED TWICE BY THE CITY AND APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. I ALSO BRING UP THAT THIS IS THE 4TH PHASE OF AN ONGOING DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL BE THE LAST PHASE IN THIS PLAN.

ALL 3 POINTS OF ACCESS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT COME OFF OF ROADS THAT ARE 22 FEET WIDE AS IT'S IN THE BACK OF AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION. THE SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHERE THOSE ARE. KATRINA RHONDA GOES OUT TO NO ROLE.

DROOLING AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE WE'VE GOT KENLEY. THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND WHERE COMPROMISE WOULD BE WAS TO REQUEST A 24 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE ROADWAY WITH 4 FOOT ROCK SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE. FOR TOTAL WIDTH OF 32 FEET. THE 32 FEET MATCHES THE MIDLOTHIAN STANDARD OF TOTAL SECTION WITH. AT THE 24 FOOT CONCRETE WOULD MATCH THE FIRE LANE MINIMUM WITH THE ENHANCED ROCK SHOULDERS ALSO HELP KEEP PARKED CARS OTHER TRAVEL LANES.O ONE CAN ENFORCE THAT I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PEOPLE, IF THEY WERE TO HANG OVER INTO THE FIRE LANE THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE NO MATTER WHERE YOU WERE. THIS IS OUR EFFORT TO MITIGATE IT, LIFE SAFETY IS A PART TWICE. WE WANT TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE A GREAT EVOLVEMENT FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND EVERYONE THAT'S ALREADY LIVING IN THE FIRST 3 PHASES. THIS IS A CONTINUATION.

THE BOTTOM IMAGE IS A MIDLOTHIAN FIRE TRUCK. I FOUND IT ONLINE THAT ALL THE FIRE TRUCKS MIDLOTHIAN STASH PUMPER.'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

IT SOUNDS GOOD AND I LOOKED AT THE MANUFACTURERS SPECS AND THOSE ARE 8 FEET WIDE.

THAT'S OFF THE MANUFACTURERS WEBSITE. MEARS PROBABLY OVERHANG THAT.

THE POINT IS THE 2 VEHICLES ON EITHER SIDE OUR STANDARD F-150'S AT 6.6 FEET WIDE.

EVEN WITH BOTH OF THE SITUATION YOU HAD CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD YOU WOULD HAVE ALMOST 5 FEET OF CLEARANCE BETWEEN THOSE VEHICLES. THAT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM FOR MEARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S EASY TO TALK NUMBERS AND ROADWAY WIDTHS AND WHAT IS THIS MEAN. AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS HAS REAL IMPACTS ON OUR PROJECT. WITH THE APPROVED PLAN WE HAD BUDGETED FOR THE 22 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE PAVING. JUMPING TO A 28 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE PAVING SECTION IS NEARLY A 30 PERCENT INCREASE IN THE BIGGEST LINE ITEM OF ANY SUBDIVISION WHICH IS GOING TO BE CONCRETE. IT'S A HUGE IMPACT. THE COMPROMISE PROPOSAL, 24 FOOT WIDE HAS 11 PERCENT INCREASE IN COST OF THESE ARE REAL NUMBERS WE'VE BEEN OUT.

WERE WILLING AND WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT AS A COMPROMISE IN GOOD FAITH.

JUST A REMINDER THAT HOUSE BILL 347 WAS PASSED LAST YEAR AND NO COMMUNITY CAN BE FORCED INTO ANNEX. WITH THIS BEING THE 4TH PHASE OF THE SUBDIVISION IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY IF EVER THERE SUBDIVISION WOULD BE VOLUNTARILY CREATING A CITY

ISSUE. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO VOLUNTARY AND ONYX?

>> NO SIR. >> WE CAME BACK WITH A COMPROMISE OVER 24 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE SECTION +4 FEET ROCK SHOULDERS. WERE STILL GETTING INTO THAT TOTAL WIDTH OF 32 FEET WHICH WE FILL HELPS CREATE A SAFE WAY FOR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS TO ACCESS ALL SUBDIVISIONS WITH 3 POINTS OF ACCESS AS WELL AS THE POSSIBILITY OF PARKED CARS.

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>> LIKE YOU SAID THOUGH WHEN YOU HAD YOUR PICTURE OF THE WAY YOU GET ACCESS TO STAGE IV.

YOU'RE COMING OFF OF 22'S TO GET TO THIS AREA. >> WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT

OF TRANSITION. >> YOU'RE NOT COMING OFF 875 A DROP-DOWN OF THIS MORNING.

>> NOTE THERE'S NO NEW CURB CUTS ON THE COUNTY ROADS. >> SO CHEAP! HE STILL HAS TO MAKE AND A HALF A MILE OF NARROW ROADS TO GET TO THE WIDE ROAD.

IF WE STUCK YOU WITH THE 28. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR THAT WAS IT.

>> JUST WRAPPING UP. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IT. THIS IS THE 4TH PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE DRAINAGE WAS A KNOWN HARDSHIP DUE TO COST.

THE HARDSHIP THAT WE KNEW ABOUT EVER GOING TO BEAR. THE CITY STANDARDS 28 FEET, THE COUNTY STANDARDS 28 FEET OR PROPOSING A 24 FOOT WIDE COMPROMISE WHICH WOULD MEET THE MINIMUM FIRELIGHT REQUIREMENTS. THE ENHANCED ROCK SHOULDERS WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE ANY CARS PARKING ON THE SIDES AND I WOULD JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THIS IMAGE.

THIS IS TO SCALE. I TOOTH OUT TODAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT A FIRE LANE IS UNOBSTRUCTED.

YOU CAN'T PARK IN A FIRE LANE. WE REFERENCE A 24 FOOT FIRE LANE.

FIRE LANES YOU CAN'T PARK IN. E HAVE 24 FEET OF ROOM. I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT'S WHAT WE DID THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA. WHEN WE REFERENCE A 24 FOOT ON OUR WEBSITE THAT'S AN UNOBSTRUCTED FILING WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS

CLEAR. >> GENTLEMEN, ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? DISCUSSION PLEASE? COMMENTS?

A MOTION? >> ALL MAKE THE MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> PULLED ON A RABBIT NOW. I WANT AGREEMENT PLANNING AND ZONING. WHICH IS THE 24 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE, FOR FOOT WIDE FLEX SPACE SO TOTAL SECTION OF 32 FEET. IS NOT CORRECT MARCOS?

>> YES IT IS. >> ON SECOND THOUGHT. >> YES.

24 AND FOR THE TOTAL WIDTH OF 32. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 24 FOOT CONCRETE ROADWAY AND 4 FOOT FLEX SPACE. FOR FOOT ON EACH SIDE FOR TOTAL OF 32 FEET.

MOTION MADE IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? >> WE PASS WITH 6 ÃZERO.

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THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. >> 2020 Ã147 CONSIDERED ACT UPON REQUEST TO APPROVE ADDITION TO THE SITE PLAN FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING HUB ONE ON 375.68 ACRES SITUATED ON LOT 1 BLOCK ONE OF SHAKA. THE PLAN TO VELVET DISTRICT 106.

>> THANK YOU. IT WAS ADOPTED IN ACCORDANCE TO THE ORDINANCE 2018 SUBSECTION 2B. ESTATES AND EXPANSION OR FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE THE PLANS TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR THE ADDITIONS FOR THE SITE PLAN FOR APPROVAL. WAS ONLY REQUIRED CHIMERIC FOR CITY COUNCIL.

BUILDING STRUCTURE WE HAVE FOR THE SHAKA IS PHASE HUB ONE. 62,890 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

THE BUILDING WILL BE APPROXIMATE 1000 135 FEET SETBACK FOR PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHICH IS THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.BOUT 1049 FEET SETBACK FROM THE PARKING. IT MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

A SETBACK PRETTY FAR. THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE A SIMILAR DESIGN AS THE DATA

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THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING IS DESIGNED TO BE AN ACCESSORY TO THE DATA CENTERS AND OTHER OPERATIONS AS THEY NEED FIT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

ONCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN AS PROPOSED IN

FRONT OF YOU TODAY. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WAS GOING TO GET READY TO

GO. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECONDED. PASSES 6 ÃZERO MAC.

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>> .20 Ã148 CAN RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON EVENT PERFORATIONS RESPONSE TO COVID-19 OF THE

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SPRING OINTMENT ARTS FESTIVAL. >> SHE WAS RIGHT IN THE BACK.

>> THOUGH SHE HAS. >> HERE WE ARE, SORRY FOR THE DELAY.

>> JUST KNOCK ON THE BACK DOOR. >> GREETING ERRORS AND COUNSEL ON LOWER TRAINING OF THE CEO AT MIDLOTHIAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. MY ADDRESS IS 2429 MOON DANCE LANE HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN.

I HAVE WITH ME ELLIE BENHAM. ELLIE WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? >> HEY GUYS MY ADDRESS IS 1011

PARK PLACE BOULEVARD IN MIDLOTHIAN. >> A COUPLE WEEKS AGO YOU WHILE APPROVED ARE MOVING OUR APRIL 25 SPRING WIND AND ARTS FESTIVAL TO JUNE 13.

NOW WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE FESTIVAL BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT ON A SAFE FESTIVAL AS MUCH AS IT CAN BE WITH HER CURRENT SITUATION. HERE IS SOME THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE DEVISED TO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FESTIVAL GOES OFF WITHOUT A HITCH.

WERE GOING TO HAVE MASKS DISTRIBUTED AT THE CHAMBER'S TENT AND IN EVERY ENTRANCE INTO THE FESTIVAL AREA. SO THE MAIN STREETS, OF COURSE IT'S NOT A CONTAINED AREA SO PEOPLE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE FESTIVAL WITHOUT COMING THROUGH THOSE MAIN ENTRANCES. YOU WOULD CONSIDER WITH THE BARRICADES ARE THOSE ARE GENERALLY MAIN ENTRANCES SO WILL TRY TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS MANNING THOSE STATIONS.

MARTIN MARIETTA HAS OFFERED US A HUGE AMOUNT OF HAND SANITIZER.

GOING TO DO THE SAME THING. WE CAN HAVE STATIONS AT THE STATE CHAMBER AND THE ENTRANCES BUT WERE ALSO GOING TO HAVE HAND SANITIZER STATIONS IN THE FOOD TRUCK PLANE AND NEAR THE PORTA POTTY'S. WE ARE OF COURSE GOING TO PUT SIGNAGE UP ESPECIALLY AT THE ENTRANCES NEAR THE CHAMBERS BOOTH THAT PROMOTE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

GOING TO ENCOURAGE THE WEARING OF MASKS AND GOING TO ADVISE PEOPLE TO TRY TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OR THEY MAY BE AT RISK FOR CONTAGION. WE WILL COME OUT AND SAY TO THESE THINGS OR YOU MIGHT ENCOUNTER SOMEONE WHO HAS THE VIRUS SO BE CAREFUL.

SIGNS WILL BE VERY OBVIOUS ABOUT THAT. WE'VE DECIDED TO RATHER THAN HAVE OUR VENDOR BOOTHS BE SIDE-BY-SIDE ADJACENT AS THEY USUALLY ARE GOING TO LAY THEM UP IN WHAT WE CALL A CHECKERBOARD CONFIGURATION. SO WE WILL STILL DO THE 10 BY 10 GRID OF BOOTHS. WE WILL HAVE THEM IN EVERY OTHER SPACE.

THEY WANT ME BEHIND ANYONE DIRECTLY OR THEY WON'T BE BESIDE ANYONE DIRECTLY.

THE REST OF THE BOOTHS, THOSE ARE LOCATED ALONG THE SIDES OF THE STREETS WERE JUST GOING TO PUT AT LEAST 6 FEET IN BETWEEN THOSE BOOTHS. WE WILL HAVE A SMALLER SHOW

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PEOPLE LINE UP TO GET SAMPLES. WE'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED OR THE NUMBER OF WINERIES WHO HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BEING HERE. IF WE CAN GET 20 WINERIES SIGNED UP RIGHT OUT RIGHT NOW THEN WE, WE WILL NOT HAVE THEM INSIDE ANY STORES.

WE THINK THERE IS NO WAY SOCIAL DISTANCING CAN BE MAINTAINED IF WE HAVE ONE EVERY INSIDE A STORE. BECAUSE MAJESTICALLY THAT WON'T WORK OUT.

WE WILL PUT THEM IN TENTS OUT ON THE STREET SCATTERED IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS WITH THE HOPE THAT TO WILL DISPERSE THE CROWD SO IF WE HAVE A CROWD OF 5000 OR 1500 OR 2000 PEOPLE THEN WE WILL BE ALL SCATTERED AROUND THE ENTIRE AREA. THERE WILL BE NO KIDS OWN THIS TIME. BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CANNOT LIMIT THE NUMBER OF KIDS WHO GO INTO THE BOUNCE HOUSES AND OBSTACLES. WE DON'T THINK WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT LATENESS OF THE BOUNCE HOUSES AND OBSTACLES. WE JUST DECIDED WERE NOT GOING TO DO THAT THIS YEAR. WERE GOING TO PROMOTE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A FACE PAINTER BUT SHE'S GOING TO CONVERT TO BEING A MASK PAINTER.

SO THAT SHE IS WEARING A MASK AND THE KIDS CAN BE WEARING MASK AND THEY CAN LEAVE WITH SOMETHING THAT LOOKS FUN FOR THEIR TAKE AWAY. DID I FORGETTING ANYTHING? ONE THING I WOULD LIKE IS WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GET A COUPLE THOUSAND MASKS.

IF THE CITY HAS ACCESS TO MASKS AND COULD GIVE US SOME MORE SAW THEM AT YOUR COST THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED FROM YOU. WHAT WE HAVE NORMALLY BEEN TOLD WE WOULD SPEND $0.50 PER MASK THAT ARE NOW 5 TO 7 DOLLARS. THAT WOULD GET COST PROHIBITED FOR US VERY QUICKLY. I DID WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR VOLUNTEERS.

THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE WINE SERVERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE MASKED AND GO DOWN IS GOING TO HELP US GET THOSE PLASTIC FACE SHIELDS. WE THINK THAT WILL BE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE IN THE WARM WEATHER THEN A MASK FOR SOMEONE WHO'S WORKING IN THE HEAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY CONCERNS? ANY ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS FOR

US? >> LAUREN EVERYTHING YOU'RE TELLING ME IS BASED ON TODAY'S

B&. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I SEE A LOT OF ROOM IF EVERYTHING IS DRAWN BACK IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS THAT WE CAN FILL IN SPACES AND CHANGE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE CAN ADJUST IF CONDITIONS ALLOW.

AND REVERSE IS ALSO TRUE. IF CONDITIONS WORSEN. >> DON'T SAY THAT.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN. WE'VE ALSO GOT A PLAN IN PLACE IN CASE. YOU WON'T MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS BUT ON MARCH 13 IT WAS FRIDAY AND ON MARCH 14 WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE ELLIS COUNTY MARKET AND THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE GOVERNOR CLOSED DOWN ALL GATHERINGS SO WE JUST ADJUSTED THAT EVENT TO HAPPEN IN JULY. WE KNOW WE HAVE TO BE READY. WE WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WE HAVE A PLAN IN CASE WE HAVE TO CANCEL BUT THE PLAN WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CANCEL.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT EVENT. WE'VE BEEN INUNDATED WITH VENDORS WANTING TO BE IN THE SHOW AND WITH PEOPLE EXCITED THAT IT'S GOING FORWARD.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> LAURA, I THINK IF YOU GO WITH YOUR DATE OF JUNE 13 IT WILL BE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THAT OPENS UP. AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT'S

EVER THOUGHT ABOUT COMING DOWNTOWN WILL BE HERE. >> WELL ABOUT HALF THE PEOPLE

ARE STILL GOING TO BE AFRAID. >> ALL STEP FURTHER THAN THAT. WE WILL BE.

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>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> NOW CHIEF I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ASK THIS QUESTION 2. IF THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT MAKE CHANGES TO THE CURRENT ORDER WILL THIS EVENT BE PERMISSIBLE

UNDER GA 18? [LAUGHTER]. >> EVERYONE IS POINTING FINGERS

BACK THERE. >> OH, THERE HE IS. WE DO HAVE CHIEF SMITH HERE.

>> I THINK THE WAY WE READ GA 18 IS NOT ALLOWED. >> ALL THAT THE CHIEF IT.

>> CANCEL SO YOU'RE AWARE. >> EVERYBODY HERE IS 100 PERCENT BY JAIL.

>> WE KNOW IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF SUPPORT. >> THE DISASTER DECLARATION WOULD TAKE US TO 11 JUNE I BELIEVE. FOR THE DISASTER DECLARATION BUT, THE DISASTER DECLARATION HAS A TENDENCY TO CHANGE THE ORDERS WHERE THE ORDERS

CURRENTLY STAND RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD NOT BE PERMISSIBLE. >> ONCE A DISASTER DECLARATION

GOES AWAY THEN THE ORDERS GO AWAY. >> HE COULD RESEND THAT AT ANY TIME. IF THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO UNTIL THE

30 DAYS. >> CORRECT. >> THAT'S THE MAXIMUM IT CAN GO

IS 30 DAYS. >> THEY HAVE A GO NO GO FOR YOUR VENDORS HOW MANY TICKETS

DO YOU THINK IT WILL SELL? >> WE DON'T KNOW. LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT ACCORDING TO CAPTAIN'S BAND WE HAD ABOUT 6500 AT THE SPRING SHOW.

AND HE ESTIMATED HE SAID MORE. SO PROBABLY 7000 MAY BE 7500 AT THE FALL EVENT.

IN SPRING WE SOLD 1000 TASTE TICKETS. IN THE FALL WE SOLD 1500 OR 1200? IT WAS 1500. WE SOLD OUT BOTH TIMES.

IF THAT TRAJECTORY WOULD'VE REMAINED IN PLACE WERE GEARING UP FOR ANOTHER 15 MILLION OR MORE. FOR THE SPRING. BUT, I AGREE WITH YOU I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE ARE GOING TO BE EXCITED TO GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING.

I THINK THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEALTH CONDITIONS OR FEARS THAT KEEP

THEM HOME. >> I'M SORRY CUT IN FRONT OF YOU.

DON'T LEAVE CHIEF. >> ALL RIGHT. OH CHIEF?

>> I HAVE A MORE FIRST QUESTION. AS YOU PLAN FOR ALL THIS STUFF

TO YOU HAVE A CONTINGENCY FOR WEATHER? >> WELL, CHRYSOSTOM EVENT THE GOOD SPRINTER SHINE. YES WE BEEN BLOWN AWAY AND WE'VE HAD HEAT AND COLD.

BUT, WHETHER IT'S THE ONE WERE NOT GOING TO SHUT DOWN. THE GOVERNOR CAN SHUT US DOWN.

THE WEATHER WILL NOT. >> OKAY. >> OKAY CHIEF, YOU'RE UP NOW.

>> GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. I AGREE WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL THAT ACCORDING TO WHAT WE READ IN THE GA AND ORDERS ISSUED BY THE GOVERNOR WE ARE MORE OR LESS DIRECTED NOT TO INVOLVE OURSELVES IN THESE KIND OF MASS CASUALTIES. THE CDC HAS SEVERAL DOCUMENTS AND TALK ABOUT TO PLAN FOR AND ENGAGE IN MASS GATHERINGS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CHAMBER HAS DONE A LOT OF HOMEWORK AND WORKING TOWARDS THOSE CONSIDERATIONS THEREFORE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD AND NOT. AND CAPTAIN SPANN CAN WORK WITH THEM TO BUILD THOSE TYPES OF CONTINGENCIES IN. AS WE'VE SAID AND TALKED ABOUT THIS. IF WE DO HAVE AN EVENT WE WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF ON HAND TO ASSIST WITH ORDER A PEACEKEEPING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE BELIEVE THAT THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND THE MASK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WILL BE DIFFICULT IF WE HAVE A LARGE

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BE DIFFICULT FOR THE EVENT TO BEFORE. >> I HAVE 2 QUESTIONS.

ONE, WHAT WILL THE DEPARTMENT DO TO PROTECT THE OFFICERS THAT WILL BE WORKING THE EVENT.

DO WE HAVE A PLAN? >> FIRST PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE ON HAND WILL BE MESSED UP AND HAVE GLOVES AVAILABLE FOR THE OFFICERS. THEY WILL HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COUNSEL SHOULD WE HAVE A HANDS-ON EVENT. WE'LL DO WHAT WE BEEN DOING SINCE EVENT KICKED OFF I WILL PUT THE OFFICERS THE BEST PROJECT DECISION TO PROTECT

THEMSELVES. >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS TO LEGAL COUNSEL BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY HEAD GOES HERE BUT ON ONE ASPECT IF THE OFFICERS TOLD TO WORK THIS EVENT AND GETS

TRAPPED CODE 19 IS THIS RELIABLE? >> THE CITY IS NOT LIABLE BUT THERE ARE AVENUES FOR THE OFFICER TO BE COVERED FOR ANY CARE THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.

> THE STATE GOVERNOR CAME UP A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT SAID ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH A FIRST RESPONDER AND THE CONTRACTION OF THIS DISEASE WOULD BE COVERED.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE AVENUES BUT WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THUS FAR AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE VIGILANT IN PROTECTING THE OFFICERS BOTH FIRE AND POLICE AND ALL OF OUR FIRST

RESPONDERS. >> IN ANY SITUATION AS IT RELATES TO COVID-19 WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES INTENTIONALLY PUT THEM IN THE PATH OF DANGER.

>> WHO WILL MAKE THE CALL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS CAN GO ON OR WHO WILL MAKE THE CALL THAT

IT CAN'T GO ON? >> WHAT IS YOUR. [INDISCERNABLE] DATE?

>> WHO WAS THE PERSON OR PERSONS. I LIKE IT TO BE A PERSON TO SAY

YAY OR NAY. >> AS CHIEF SAID I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MYSELF AND THE CHIEF CONSULTANT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. IF WE STILL HAVE THAT LANGUAGE

BY THE GOVERNOR, ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE THE GOVERNOR. >> SO THE CHIEF WILL ADVISE YOU

AND. >> WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE CALL OF WHATEVER THE ORDERS IN

PLACE AT THAT TIME. >> GLORIA DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

>> YES WE ASSUME THE GOVERNOR WOULD MAKE THE CALL BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHATEVER CALL THE GOVERNMENT MAKES THE COUNTY WILL FOLLOW SUIT AND THE CITY WILL FOLLOW SUIT.

SO B. >> WHATEVER THE CALL IS.> EXACTLY.

HE ASSUMED THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER WILL EXPIRE. I DID NOT KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN

EXTENDED. >> IT WAS DONE TODAY. >> THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T KNOW.

THAT'S PRETTY RECENT. ONE THING WE HAVE PLANNED TO HAPPEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WIND AND ARTS FESTIVAL IS THE MAYOR AND I AND YOUR NEW COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A PLAN TO CELEBRATE REOPENING OF OUR ECONOMY.

WE CALL IT BID LOW RISES. GOING TO BETWEEN SIGNS AND T-SHIRTS AND A FULL-BLOWN CAMPAIGN. THE PLAN WAS THAT THE WEEK OF THE FESTIVAL, SO THE EIGHTH THROUGH THE 12TH THAT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE BUSINESSES IN TOWN TO DO SOMETHING CELEBRATORY. FOR AN OPEN HOUSE OR HAVE SOME SORT OF A SPECIAL GATHERING OF THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THEIR CLIENTS AND THIS WOULD CULMINATE IN THE WIND AND ARTS FESTIVAL ON SATURDAY. WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THOSE PLANS BUT IT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. PRESS RELEASES HAVE NOT GONE OUT YET.

ALL RIGHT, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

IF ANYTHING COMES UP I KNOW THE CHIEF WILL REACH OUT TO ME. >> JUST REAL QUICKLY.

DO YOU HAVE A BACKUP DATE? I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A RUN OUT DATE.

>> WERE NOT SCHEDULING TESTING AGAIN. IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THIS TIME I'LL TELL YOU WHAT OUR PLAN IS. I'M PANDERING AFTER THE MAGNOLIA SILOS HAD AN EVENT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN APRIL. IT GOT CANCELED BECAUSE OF

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THE WINETASTING PART OF IT, THE PLAN IS TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THAT TO OUR JULY 25 EVENT THAT WE ARE HAVING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER CHAMBERS. THE ELLIS COUNTY MARKET AND HAVE HAPPY HOUR AT THE ENDS OF THAT EVENT. THIS CARD WOULD BE SPLIT UP INTO 2 THINGS. ONE BOODGA ONE IS A VIRTUAL AND THE OTHER WOULD BE RE-CREATED

IN ANOTHER LOCATION ON ANOTHER DATE. >> WE DO HAVE A PLAN.

WE DON'T LIKE THAT PLAN BUT GOD'S, EXXON A TERRIBLE PLAN WHO JUST WOULD RATHER HAVE THIS

THING IN PERSON. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU GUYS. >> THERE IS NO ACTION TO TAKE FORM 148. I MOVE 2UP NEXT TO THIS MORNING. REVIEW AND DISCUSS

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NECESSARY. HEATHER? >> HEATHER GETS TO DO THIS.

>> YOU ALL TRICKED ME ON SWEENEY FOR THE END. I DON'T HAVE ANY PAPERS WITH

ME. >> GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. SO I'M HERE BECAUSE I THINK WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SUMMER EVENTS THAT ARE COMING SOON.

JUST WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT NOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT A JUNE EVENT.

WE DO HAVE 1/30 STREET DANCE EVENT. SO WHAT IS COMING VERY SOON.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED GUIDANCE FROM YOU ON. THE GOVERNOR JUST SENT A PRECEDENT NOW TODAY PER JOE THAT WE ARE SHUT DOWN FOR 30 DAYS.

I THINK WE MAY HAVE JUST GOT OUR ANSWER. >> KEEP IN MIND THAT THE DISASTER DECLARATION HAS BEEN EXTENDED. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GENERAL ORDERS, THEY KEEP CHANGING. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL BE.

>> AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO SAY YES, SIR NUMBER WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THIS.

AND WE ARE VERY CLOSE. >> MY RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW IS WE CANCEL THAT MAY 30TH.

I THINK IT'S TO CLOSE. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF KIDS ACTIVITIES AS YOU HEARD FROM THE CHAMBER YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT. WE'VE HAD 3000+ PEOPLE AT THESE EVENTS BEFORE. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE WISE THAT QUICKLY STILL UNDER DISASTER DECLARATION TO HAVE THE A STREET DANCE THIS YEAR. THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ONE. THEN OBVIOUSLY THESE OTHERS WE'VE GOTTA SEE WHERE WERE AT.

AND WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS ARE AS THEY COME OVER. >> I WOULD TAKE A STEP FURTHER

COUNSEL EVERYTHING IN JUNE. THAT'S MY STANDPOINT. >> IT'S JUST, I HATE TO SAY IT'S JUST A MOVING'S. THAT IS NOTHING BUT KIDS. THEY ROLLED AROUND THE GRASS

AND PLAY WITH EACH OTHER. >> THERE'S NO SOCIAL DISTANCING KIDS.

YOU CAN'T SOCIAL DISTANCE THAT WITHOUT A LEASH. I STILL WANT FIREWORKS TONE.

>> AM HOPEFUL FOR FIREWORKS. >> HOW ABOUT WE PLAN FOR FIREWORKS TO GO FOR THE MAYOR?

>> IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. >> APPS AT THE PARK YESTERDAY. IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN THAT CITY

PLANS A THING. >> DO YOU WANT TO PARADE ALSO JUST FIREWORKS?

>> THE PARADE IS A SOCIAL DISTANCING EXPERIENCE. IT COULD BE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT CLOSE. YOU KNOW WITH EACH OTHER.

YOU COULD BE UP AND DOWN THE PARADE ROUTE. >> THING I LOVE ABOUT OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY AS WE HAVE SOME VERY SMART AND WISE PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY MAKE FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES. FOR ALL OF YOU WATCHING ALIGN

MAKE THE DECISIONS POSSIBLE FOR YOUR FAMILIES. >> THE MAYOR AND I HAVE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS TO CANCEL SUMMER EVENTS RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE WOULD PREFER TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THINGS PROGRESS. MICAH SAID AND WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE JULY EVENT. I DON'T THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF STANDPOINT WILL BE TO COUNSEL ALL SUMMER EVENTS RIGHT NOW. YOU ARE SEEING SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES DO THAT EVER GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNSEL.

>> WHAT WOULD BE THE GO NO GO DATE ON THE JUNE THIRD AND 4TH EVENTS?

IN JUNE YOU THINK? >> YOU KNOW WE DON'T RUN 4TH OF JULY EVENT.

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WE WERE INFORMED THERE ARE RESEND THE CONTRACT FOR THE FIREWORKS.

SO AS FAR AS TACOS, NOW THE OTHER PORTION OF THE FUNDING THE OTHER 7500 OF THAT COMES FROM 4B WHICH HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET. SO WE HAVE THAT ONE AS WELL.

I KNOW MANY PLACES AROUND US, MANSFIELD, CEDAR HILL STILL ON THE FENCE.DE SOTO IS CANCELED. LANCASTER IS CANCEL BUT STILL JOIN THE FARMERS BUT EVENT IS CANCELED. ARLINGTON IS ON THE FENCE. ONCE HUGS HE IS CANCELED.

WE'RE TALKING WITH A BUNCH OF DIRECTORS WHO ARE TALKING TODAY TRYING TO SEE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING AND WHAT IT'S LOOKING LIKE. WE HAVE TIME BEFORE WE GET TO THAT. THAT IS AN EASIER EVENT TO SET OUT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE QUICK AND IT IS SET UP FOR OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY GOT

STEPS IN PLACE. >> WHO RUNS THE PARADE? DON'T YOU?

>> WE DON'T RUN THE 4TH OF JULY. WE DO ALL THE CHRISTMAS. WE ASSIST WITH EVERYTHING.

>> WHO RUNS THE PARADE? >> IT'S ALL THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IS IT NOT? YES, THE FIREWORKS ARE ALL THROUGH THAT AND ALL AT THAT.

WE WILL BE PART OF THE PARADE, YES.E WILL RUN IT LIKE THE CHRISTMAS PARADE.

>> WOULD IT BE WISE TO REVISIT THE PARADE OR JULY EVENTS IN MID JUNE?

>> IS NOT A GOOD TIMEFRAME FOR YOU? >> YES HER.

>> OKAY. COME BACK AND SEE US THEN. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU ALL. WE'LL SEE YOU SHORTLY. I HAVE 2020 Ã149.

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ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING RELATED SERVICES. >> IF YOU WILL RECALL BACK IN FEBRUARY WHENEVER WE BROUGHT FORWARD TO CANCEL THE AWARD OF THE EXPANSION WAS BROKEN INTO 2 PROJECTS. INITIALLY WAS SET UP TO BE ONE PROJECT AND WILL BE GOT TO THE POINT WERE READY TO BID WE ASKED THE CONSULTANT TO BREAK IT OUT SO WE COULD HAVE THE ABILITY AND COUNSEL COULD AWARD 2 SEPARATE PROJECTS IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST FOR COST SAVINGS. AS PART OF THAT WE WERE TRYING TO BLAZE $160,000 IN SAVINGS FOR THE ITEMS THAT COUNSEL HAD AWARDED. IF YOU RECALL YOU MENTIONED THERE BE SOME ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING THAT WILL BE INVOLVED BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW TO PROJECTS INSTEAD OF ONE. WHAT THE LENGTH OF THIS PROJECT WE HAVE IT'S A 12 TO 14 MONTH PROJECT BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM. BASICALLY WE HAVE NOW AN ADDITIONAL 12 TO 14 MEETINGS THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR IN SOME ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS AND PUNCHLIST.

BASED ON THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS AMENDMENT TO THEIR ADDITIONAL COST ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIGN AT THE 64TH OUNCE OF 027. STILL RESULTING IN A LITTLE OVER HUNDRED AND $4000 WITH THE SAVINGS. WE REALIZE A SAVINGS BY BREAKING IT INTO 2 PROJECTS. WE HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING INVOLVED ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIGN AND OBSERVATION SIDE AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

COUNSEL MAY HAVE. >> WE JUST MADE $40,000 ON THIS?

>> ROUGHLY OVER LITTLE OVER HUNDRED THOUSAND. WE STILL HAVE 104,000 DELTA.

>> SPINNING 64-BIT? >> SQUARE HUNDRED 68,000 SOMEWHERE SPENDING 64 OF THE

HUNDRED 68. >> OKAY. GREAT.

I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> THANK YOU COUNSEL. >> ITEM 2020 Ã150 CONSIDERING ACT OF AMENDMENT TO DEVELOP

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SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE WIND RIDGE DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU CANCEL.

BACK IN 2018 THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BROUGHT BEFORE COUNSEL THAT WAS APPROVED. IT WAS BETWEEN GLENCOE HOMES FOR WIND RIDGE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AND INVOLVED THE EXTENSION OF WATER LINE SO IT'S OFF SITE 11 16 INCH WATER LINE

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THE ORIGINAL PLANS OFFERED TO CALL FROM WALNUT GROVE ROAD COUNT MOCKINGBIRD AND INTO THE EASTERN PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE CONSULTANT STARTED LOOKING AT DOING THE DESIGN THEY ACTUALLY WORKED OUT A DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT WHICH IS REALLY THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF HAYES WHICH IS AT 2017 BOND PROJECT.HEY SET THE LIMIT WHICH WORKS REALLY WELL.HAT INCREASED THE LENGTH BUT ALSO IT'S COMING FROM A DIFFERENT AREA.

TO MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MINUTES THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT WE HAD TO AMEND IT.

IT REALLY IS IT IMPACTING WHAT THE CITY HAS AGREED TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.

IT INCREASES THE LENGTH AND HAS MORE COST GOING TO THE DEVELOPER WITH THE CITY WILL REIMBURSE BACK ON WATER IMPACT FEES. WITH THAT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HELP. >> WHAT SIZE WATERLINES?> 16 INCH COUNCILMAN.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

THANKS PAST. >> THINK IT COUNSEL. >> THANKS MIKE.

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>> ITEM 2020 Ã151 CONSIDER UNAUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE GA W CONSTRUCTION SERVICES OF PALMER TEXAS FOR CONCRETE PAVEMENT SERVICES THROUGHOUT

THE CITY OF ADELPHIA. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL GOOD EVENING.

PRESENTATION BEFORE TONIGHT WAS A CITYWIDE CONTRACT FOR CONCRETE COULD BE ANYTHING FROM CONCRETE REPAIRS TO ROADWAYS, SIDEWALKS, HEADWALLS AND ANY OTHER ARTWORK THAT MAY BE NEEDED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. PRESENTING TONIGHT THIS IS A CITYWIDE CONTRACT.

WERE PREPARED FOR SOME REPAIRS WITH HISTORY DEPARTMENT AND SOME UTILITY WORK BUT SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS IT UTILIZES THE CONTRACT. THERE ARE 7 BIDDERS THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR 2 YEARS WITH 3 ONE-YEAR EXTENSIONS. FAMILIAR WITH THIS GROUP OF GA W. TO DO GREAT WORK AND BEEN A LOT OF WORK ON THE PAST WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK THEY DO A GOOD JOB. IN ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> WHAT'S A BUDGET? >> THE ANSWER IS YES HOWEVER IS OUTDATED BASIS.

FROM DAMAGED SIDEWALK OR ROADWAYS WE WILL REPAIR THOSE. WE WANT TO ANYTHING I GUESS THE ANSWER IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM NEED TO DO IT WILL BE TO DO IT RIGHT.

UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> YOU HAVE FUNDS SET ASIDE IN

YOUR BUDGET? >> YES, SIR I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT'S BUDGETED FOR UNTIL THEY'RE NEEDED. I SPEAK FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS EITHER.

NEXT THAT'S FINE. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> MOTION TO MOVE OR APPROVE.

SECONDED? >> APPROVED. THANK YOU ADAM.

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>> ITEM 2020 Ã152. CONSIDER AGAIN TO PRICE CONTRACT WITH DEEMED IN CONSTRUCTION OF A SERIAL TEXAS. CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK BY ACCEPTING FIRST BID PACKAGE OF SITE WORK AND UTILITIES AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS FOR PHASE 2 OF THE COMMUNITY PARK IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $21,397,751.22. WHICH INCLUDES CONTINGENCY AMOUNT OF $928,254.75.

SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF FUNDED. >> EVEN MAYOR AND COUNCIL KNOW YOU'VE ALL WAITED PATIENTLY FOR THIS ITEM. THIS IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE BIDS THAT WERE BID OUT THE GREEK AT THE BIDS, WHICH 30TH. WE'VE HAD 2 WORKSHOPS SINCE THEN.

GOING OVER WITH THE 4B. THIS STEMMED FROM A JOINT MEETING STARTED IN NOVEMBER AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ONE IN THE END OF JANUARY SAY LET'S GO FORWARD WITH THESE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS. THIS IS THE FINAL DESIGN FOR COMMUNITY PARK PHASE 2. IN THIS WE'VE GOT BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, APPLE THEATERS SPORT SPORTS, SAND VOLLEYBALL, BASKETBALL COURTS, PAVILION PICNIC AREAS, TO PLAYGROUNDS AND AMPHITHEATER ACTUAL SERVICE TROUNCES MOST CONCRETE TRIALS, SPLASH PAD WITH SHADE STRUCTURES THEN OF COURSE THERE WILL BE'S ARTWORK, LIMESTONE EDGER ON THE POND AND IRRIGATION POND, LANDSCAPING, FIRE LANES, VEHICULAR PARKING.

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QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND I'M SURE THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF DISCUSSION.>> WITH THAT I HAVE TO READ SOMEBODY THAT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. HIS IS FROM JACKIE MCDONALD.

I'LL DO MY BEST JACKIE VOICE. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL JACKIE MCDONALD IN 2017 WAS ASKED TO BE PART OF THE CITIZENS PLANNING COMMITTEE. I SAT SHOULDER TO SHOULDER MUSCLE MOVIE DURING THE MEETINGS. AS YOU KNOW MORE TEST TO DETERMINE IF A BOND BE FEASIBLE AND WHAT PROJECTS OUR COMMUNITY WOULD WANT.

AFTER MONTHS OF MEETINGS AND DELIBERATION TOGETHER BECAME TO A CONSENSUS THAT COMPLETION OF THE PARK WOULD BE DESIRED BY OUR COMMUNITY. VOTERS AGREED WHEN THEY APPROVED A BOND OF 16.1 MILLION WHICH INCLUDED THE COMPLETION OF PHASE 2 AND 3. HIGHLIGHT THE WORK COMPLETION BECAUSE THE WORD WAS USED 4 TIMES ON THE MALE PROPAGANDA TOUR CITIZENS TO GARNER THEIR SUPPORT THIS BOND. THE DESIGN PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF 78 YOUTH BASEBALL FIELDS, MASSIVE/PATCH NEWNESS AND BASKETBALL COURTS, PLATE PLAYGROUNDS, PICNICS, FISHING POND AND PARKING. BUDGET INCLUDED INFLATION, ENGINEERING AND WE KNEW IT WOULD BE'S NOT START UNTIL 2020 OR LATER WOUNDS WERE APPROVED AND WILL TAKE ANOTHER 2 TO 4 YEARS TO COMPLETE. THE APPROVED SUPPORT WAS FOR THE PRIORITIZED LIST COULD MINUTELY HAVE THE OPTION OF ONLY COMPLETING PHASE 2 BUT WE DECIDED IF IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE AND NEED TO BE FULLY COMPLETED.

WHY? PHASE 1 WAS INITIALLY SOLD TO THE COMMUNITY THEY WERE GETTING ALL PHASES OF THE PARKS. SPLASH PLAN, AMPHITHEATER AND IS A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE RIGHT. ERE'S THE THING. WHEATON APPROVED 21 MILLION WE DIDN'T APPROVE ADAMO 16.1 MILLION BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD IT COULD BE DONE WITH THE BUDGET PROVIDED. IF HER GETTING ALL THE THINGS WERE TOLD I DON'T THINK I'D BE STANDING HERE TONIGHT ASKING YOU TO BACK UP THE CARDS. FOR 21 MILLION WERE NOT GETTING THE PARK WE WERE PROMISED. LOVE HAS BEEN ADDED AND BASICS HAVE BEEN LEFT OFF.

I HAVE ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE ON THE BUDGET IT'S PART OF MY JOB TO HELP FAMILIES WHO MOVED TO OUR COMMUNITY TO FIND THE PERFECT HOME FOR THEM NOT JUST ON CHARACTERISTICS BUT ALSO WITHIN THEIR BUDGET AND ALL THE WHILE KEEPING THEIR FUTURE INVESTMENTS IN MIND.

STOP PERSON OR PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE TO EXTEND THE BUDGET BECAUSE OF HOUSE HAS A FEW COOL FEATURES THAT MEANS NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE THE MONTHLY PAYMENTS OR BECOME HOUSE POOR AND ABLE TO ENJOY THE OTHER ASPECTS OF LIFE. NOW MY CLIENTS BY HOUSE THANKS TO THE TRUTH IN LENDING LAWS BEFORE THEY SIGN THE FINAL PAPERWORK THE CLOSURE ADJUSTER CLOSURE SHOWS THE MONTHLY PAYMENT. IT ALSO SHOWS THE TOTAL COST IS OVER THE LIFE OF THE LOAN. THE TOTAL THAT WILL BE SPENT IF PAYMENTS ARE MADE ON SCHEDULE.

EVERY 3 YEARS LATER THE TERMS HAVE CHANGED. THE ASSIGNMENT CENTER TOOK US TO THE BASE MODEL TO OVER THE TOP. ALL THE BILLS AND WHISTLES THUS COSTING AN ADDITIONAL 7.25 MILLION UPON TED. UNDERSTAND WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL DEBT WOULD BE FORCED TO LOWER OUR TAX RATE. UNDERSTAND INTEREST RATES ARE LOW AND MONIES TREATMENT INTEREST IS STILL INTEREST. I ASKED WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST OUT. WILL YOU TAKE THE BASE BONDS PLUS INTEREST MUCH IS THIS COSTING US? SOUNDS LIKE 21 MILLION WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY WATER.

RISA CITY STAFF AND ELECTED COUNCIL NOT PROACTIVELY MOVING THE SCALE BACK TO PROJECT TO MEET THE ORIGINAL PRIMARY GOALS WITHOUT OVERSPENDING 7 MILLION THERE COULD BE PUT TO USE ELSEWHERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. RIGHT NOW CITY STAFF IS ORGANIZING AND PLANNING THE NEXT BOND ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER AND I'M PROUD TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

WE KNOW THERE'S A DESIRE FOR NEW CITY, LIBRARY, YMCA AND APPROVED ROADWAYS.

WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO PAY FOR THEM PREPARE FOR? WHAT ABOUT TOMORROW FROM OTHER BUCKETS FINANCING THE GENERAL FUND WILL HAVE OTHER NEEDS THAT COULD USE THESE RESOURCES DURING CERTAIN TIME IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.. THE CITY HAS PROMOTED A STANDARD FOR TRANSPARENCY ACCOUNTABILITY AND FINANCIAL INTEGRITY.

TRACK RECORD THAT SOME LEADERS DETERMINED TO MAINTAIN. I RESPECT YOU TO URGE AND BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER THE USE OF FUNDS FROM 4B CORPORATION AND SAVE THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.

I URGE YOU TO BE STEWARDS THING ELECTRIC TO BE GIVE US A PART THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY BOTH IN FUTURES AND SPREADING. JACKIE MCDONALD, REALTOR, FALLIBILITY. THAT WAS MY BEST JACKIE VOICE. YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> NEXT. >> WAITED A LONG TIME FOR THIS. >> JUDGMENTAL 16 410 A.M.

ACROSS THE STREET. SHADY OAKS. I'M WONDERING WHY ARE NO GOOD

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CHART LIKE THEY GOT. I'M REALLY DEAD. >> WEIRD SUPPORT OF THE PARK.

I ONLY COME WHEN PROPERTY VALUES ARE AN ISSUE. THAT'S IT.

MARGARET SEE ME UNLESS IT'S A PROPERTY VALUE. DOCTOR HUME'S HEAD OF METHODISTS AND 85. HE WAS CHIEF OF STAFF THERE AND HE SAID HE TOLD ME IN 1985 HE SAID MIDLOTHIAN WILL BE THAT OF TOWN. IT'S BECOME THE PLANO INTO TOWN. PEOPLE LIVING HERE HAVE MY EXPECTATIONS JUST LIKE YOU SAW THAT SUBDIVISION AND THAT GUY COMING IN PUTTING $3000 GARAGE DOORS ON THERE.

THEY HAVE EXPECTATIONS. WE BUILT A FOOTBALL STADIUM BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

ONE BY 16 VOTES. HIS $14 MILLION. PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE WORST THING THEY HAD EVER SEEN. THEY SAY HEY WE WANT TO BUILD THAT STADIUM.

50 MILLION BUCKS. THAT'S HOW MUCH IT'S COME. WE GOT A GOOD DEAL.

WE HAD FIRST CLASS. WE THEN CUT BACK ON ANYTHING. WE DID IT RIGHT.

IF THE CITY HADN'T MADE US PUT IN THAT LIKE OUT THERE WE WOULD HAVE EVEN ADDED MORE TO THE STADIUM BUT THEY MADE US PUT IN THAT GREAT LAKE AND YOU DON'T SEE ANY WATER IN IT.

IT'S THERE. THE POND WAS APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO.

BECAUSE OF OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES AND THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THROUGHOUT LIFE.

I GOT PUT BACK ON WHEN WE COULD DO IT WHEN WE COULD START. NOBODY KNEW THE COST WAS GONNA GO UP SO MUCH. YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME WE HAVE INCREASING COST.

I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO GET WHAT HAS COME OUT SAYING IT WAS 21 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING THAT MUCH. I THINK WHEN YOU GUYS GET A HOLD OF IT THEY GET THE PENCIL PAPER TO IT I THINK THEY'RE GONNA GET THE COST DOWN.

I THINK THAT'S AN ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW. IN LIEU OF THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IT FIRST-CLASS. THE FIRST CLASS IS GOING TO BRING IN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO THE PARK. YUKO WILL WHEN HE MEAN? IT'S GOING TO BE A MONEYMAKER.

IT'S GOING TO BRING IN PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SHOP HERE. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER HAD KIDS INVOLVED IN A SELECT SPORT OR ANY RECREATIONAL SPORT WE'VE GOING TO FRISCO, WITH GHANA SOUTHLAKE. WE'VE GOT ALL OVER EVERYWHERE. THAT LOCATION RIGHT THERE IS THE BEST. THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED IT CAN BE USED ALL YEAR LONG.

IT'S NOT GOOD TO BE JUST USED JUST ONE OR 2 MONTHS A YEAR. THEY WILL BE YEARS USED ALL YEAR LONG. FOOTBALL'S BEEN TAKING CARE OF IN THE TOWN.

THEY'VE GOT THE SCHOOLS. YOU'LL PUT THE MONEY OUT FOR THAT.

I TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT COME THERE AND THERE FOOTBALL IN THE COMMAND, YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE. WE ALL LOVE TO COME OVER HERE. THIS IS PEOPLE OUTSIDE THAT ARE COMING HERE THAT HAVE PEEWEE FOOTBALL. IF WE DO THAT FOR THE PARK YOU WILL HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE. WE GET COMPLIMENTS ON THE STADIUM.

I TALKED TO KAREN CHICAGO YEARS AGO AND HE SAID WHERE YOU FROM. HE SAID MID LEFT IN TEXAS.

HE SAID YOU NEVER HEARD OF IT? >> HE SAYS Y'ALL GOT A FOOTBALL STATING THERE? I SAID YEAH WE DO. MAN I HEARD ABOUT THE FOOTBALL STADIUM.

I TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME, I TALKED TO A GUY THAT CAME STAY AT THE HOTEL AND STAYED THERE SPECIFICALLY FROM AUSTIN. SO HE COULD WATCH AGAIN.

WHILE THE FOOTBALL GAMES GOING ON.HAT'S WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN WITH THE PARK.

IF YOU GIVE THE PEOPLE SOMETHING QUALITY AND YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE COMING HERE AND IT WILL DRIVE A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS TOWN. ANYWAY, I KNOW SHE'S GOT TO TALK A LOT A LOT LONGER BECAUSE HE TALKED FOR HER. ANYWAY.

WE APPRECIATE IT. WE WANT YOU ALL TO CONSIDER DOING THAT AND FORTUNATELY ART IS NOT HERE OR ART WITH THE PAST THIS DEAL. THE LAST THING I WILL TELL YOU AS IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME. THANK Y'ALL.

>> THANK YOU JIM. >> TJ HENLEY. >> TJ HENLEY 6051 PEPPERTREE

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I'M PRETTY MUCH REPRESENTING THEM CDC TONIGHT. AS ITS TREASURER FAMILIAR WITH THE FINANCES WHAT THE PROPOSED 5.25 MILLION THAT 4B IS WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND HOW IT WOULD RELATE. JUST TO PUT IT ON RECORD IN A VERY SHORT MOMENT.

WE HAVE SOME DEBT FROM MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY THAT THE BOARD WOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO CALL IN SEPTEMBER AND PAY THAT DEBT OFF. THAT DEBT PAYMENT WITH THE NEW PROPOSED DEBT PAYMENT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE A CASH FLOW POSITIVE FOR 4B.

WHEN THAT BOND WAS ISSUED I BELIEVE IT WAS 2002. THE SOLE REVENUE SOURCE WITH 4B IS SALES TAX. SALES TAX REVENUE TO THE B CORPORATION 2002 TO MAKE THAT BOND PAYMENT WAS MINUSCULE TO THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVED AT THIS TIME.

WE NOT ONLY HAVE ABOUT MS. SHEAR MARKER'SFROM ITS CITIZENS.

WE HAVE A LOT MORE OUTLETS THAT GENERATE SALES TAX REVENUE DOLLARS TO THE B CORPORATION TO MAKE THE BOND PAYMENTS. DURING THAT SAME TIMEFRAME THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE FOR THE B CORPORATION IS JUST OVER $16. NOT ONLY ABLE TO MAKE ALL OF THE DEBT PAYMENTS ALSO DURING THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME ABLE TO FUND OTHER INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND AS WELL SAVE $6 MILLION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO FUTURE THINGS.

SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD ON HERE TO GIVE YOU GUYS WHATEVER, I'M SO SORRY, DISRESPECTFUL, GENTLEMAN SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY THE COMFORTABLE FEELING THAT AS A TREASURE FOR THE B CORPORATION, I DO NOT SEE ANY ISSUE OR CONCERN THAT SLOW DOWN IN OUR SALES TAX REVENUE WOULD CREATE A SHORTFALL. IT WOULD CERTAINLY NOT BE EXPECTED IN ANY REASONABLE WAY TO GO BACK TO PRIOR TO 2002 SALES TAX REVENUES WHICH SENSES NEW BOND WOULD BE LESS MONEY ON ALCO BASIS IN OUR CURRENT SITUATION IT WOULD BE A CASH FLOW POSITIVE.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU'LL HAVE ANY. OTHERWISE I'M DONE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU TJ. >> CHARLES BLEY?

>> BRYCE ROGERS? ALSO SPEAKING IN SUPPORT. >> MATTHEW COPELAND IN SUPPORT?

>> TIFFANY CARA? IN SUPPORT. THAT'S ALL THE ONES WHO HAVE SIGNED UP. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?

CANCEL YOU HAVE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY? >> CONSIDERING I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT STOOD THERE AND PUT THE FIRST SHOVEL IN THE DIRT ON THE FIRST PART I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS THING TO GET GOING. ESPECIALLY TODAY. I WENT BY THE PARK THERE MUST'VE BEEN 200 PEOPLE. WANDERING AROUND DIFFERENT PARTS OF MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY.

THE DOG PARK I WAS AGAINST THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE THERE EVERY DAY.

IN THE BEGINNING NOBODY WANTED IT. WE BUILT IT ANYWAY.

AND NOW IT'S USED IMMENSELY. PARKS ARE JUST PART OF WHAT WE ARE.

WERE NOT SOUTHLAKE. WHEN NOT TROPHY CLUB. WE CAN COMPETE IN SOME AREAS AND I WANT PEOPLE TO COME DOWN HERE TO BE PART OF A PARK. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAY BACK WHEN WAS IT MIDLOTHIAN SPORTS BAR. I'M KIND OF GLAD WE CHANGE IT TO THE MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY PARK NOW. IT IS MORE ABOUT COMMUNITY THAT IT IS SPORTS.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS GRANDKIDS WERE DOING THE SELECT BASEBALL AND ALL OF THAT NOW HE TRAVELED AND SPENT MONDAY AND ALL THESE OTHER CITIES. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON A PARK. THAT'S NEVER BEEN THE THOUGHT OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T NECESSARILY COME I WANT THE KIDS THAT LIVED IN THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE AND PLAY AT DECENT FIELDS. THEY PUT ALL ARTIFICIAL TURF ON THE BASEBALL FIELD BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH THEY FOUND THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE SPENDING

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THEY HAVE TO THINK FURTHER AHEAD THAN TODAY AND TOMORROW. THEY HAVE TO THINK YEARS AHEAD ON THE MAINTENANCE. NOW, WE FLUFFED UP OUR CITY PARK AND IT'S GOING TO BE TOP-OF-THE-LINE. AS A REAL ESTATE AGENT I THINK THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO DRIVE BIKE THE PARK TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEE THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

THIS PARK RIGHT NOW IS SHOVEL READY. WE SAY YES TO THIS AND THERE'S A GUY OVER THERE THAT WOULD JUST LOVE TO START UP A BULLDOZER.

I KNOW FOR FACT THERE'S AT LEAST 20 PEOPLE THAT WILL BE HIGHER THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY.

BY ONE COMPANY THE DAY HE STARTS TURNING DIRT. THAT'S PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THIS TOWN, PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THIS TOWN. IT'S JUST A BEEN FURLOUGHED BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WORK GOING RIGHT NOW AT THAT TIME. THIS WOULD HELP AT LEAST 20 FAMILIES I KNOW ABOUT PERSONALLY. THIS WILL HELP.

OKAY THERE'S MINE. >> I THINK 20 FAMILIES IS PRETTY MINIMAL.

IT'S GOING TO BE WAY OVER THAT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. I WAS EXCITED BACK IN 06 WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE FIRST BOND ISSUES. THEN WE CAME BACK AND LIKE I SAID EVERYTHING GOT MORE EXPENSIVE. EVERY DAY WE GO BY GETS MORE EXPENSIVE. IN 17 WE WENT OUT AND WENT BONDS AGAIN TO FINISH IT UP.

WE HOPE TO DO THAT. WITH THE MONIES THAT WAS THERE. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

I'M SO THANKFUL FOR FREE TO COME ALONG PUT $5 MILLION INTO THIS THING TO BRING UP WHERE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS AND CAME UP WITH THIS $21 MILLION FIGURE.

I THINK WERE REALLY MAKING A TERRIBLE MISTAKE IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T DO IT.

I'M NOT HAD ANYBODY, JACKIE MCDONALD'S ONLY ONE THAT'S TOLD ME NUMBER EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TALKED TO ME AND SAID WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE PARK GOING? WHENEVER I GO SOMEBODY, WHEN HE DID PARK GOING? WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

WE WILL HOPEFULLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT TONIGHT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT

TO DO. >> ALLSTATE MY PIECE THEN BE QUIET.

THIS PARK SITUATION HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME. IN 2006 THE FIRST BOND WAS PASSED. THE CONCEPT OF A PARK SHOWN TO OUR CITIZENS FOR THEM TO VOTE ON. I UNDERSTAND IT'S A CONCEPT BUT THE PERCEPTION WAS THAT WE OVERPROMISE AND UNDER DELIVERED IN 2006. THIS IS NOT AN INDICTMENT ON CITY STAFF OR PAST COUNCILS OR ANYBODY. IT'S THE REALITY OF THE PERCEPTION. IN 2017 WE MADE A REAL ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT RIGHT BY PROPOSING A BOND. I WAS PART OF THE BOND COMMITTEE.

I PUT MY REPUTATION ON THE LINE TO SELL THIS PARK TO OUR COMMUNITY TO GET YES VOTES.

WE SHOWED A CONCEPT OF WHAT THE PARK WOULD LOOK LIKE. THERE IS A MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE US TO STICK TO THE 14.1 OR WHATEVER MONIES WE HAVE LEFT AND NOT COMPLETE THE PARK TO THE FULLEST EXTENT. THERE'S BEEN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEER MAN AND WOMAN HOURS. MEETING ABOUT IT AND DISCUSSING THIS PARK.

THE FUNDING MECHANISMS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE BY GENEROSITY OF 4 BEAT WHICH IS SALES TAX DOLLARS. THIS COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY IN MY OPINION TO WRITE AN PERCEIVED WRONG BY OUR COMMUNITY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2006.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO COME THROUGH ON WHAT WAS PROMISED

THROUGH THOSE CONCEPTUAL PLANS BACK IN 2006. >> THERE IS A LOT OF INSPIRING GOOD WORD SPOKEN HERE. MOSTLY WHICH WHAT I AGREE WITH. THERE ARE A FEW POINTS WHERE WE DIFFER. THERE IS A FACTOR OUT THERE IN FRONT OF US THAT NOBODY KNOWS EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT. THAT'S THE COVID-19 IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMY. I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THE ECONOMY PLAYS OUT.

WE NEED TO SPEND THE 14 MILLION AND GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. I'M NOT SPEAKING AGAINST THE PARK. I THINK IF THINGS TURN DOWN THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE COULD BE

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>> I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH IN MANY DIRECTIONS ON THE PARK. I CONVINCED MYSELF ONE WEEK TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT WEEK TO MOVE BACKWARDS. I DO BELIEVE ANY DIRECTION WE MOVE IN THERE WILL BE DIRT TERMS AND THINGS WILL HAPPEN. I'VE HAD TO FINALLY COME UPON GRIPS YESTERDAY EVENING THAT I HAD 2 CHOICES. I CAN EITHER GO IN A DIRECTION WHY MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE WANT ME TO DO THAT IS I'VE HAD PLENTY OF CALLS BOTH WAYS MYSELF. I'VE HAD MORE CALLS TODAY OF CONCERN OF MOVING FORWARD.

I'VE HAD SOME POSITIVE CALLS TOWARDS THE PULPIT. I WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT.

HAVE TO GO WITH MY GUT. I HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT I'M EXPERIENCING IN MY BUSINESS.

THAT IS AN ODD PHENOMENON THAT I'M DEALING WITH BECAUSE WHEN I GO AROUND MIDLOTHIAN WITH THE BEST WAY I CAN EXPLAIN IT I WISH I KNEW THE NAME OF THE MOVIE.

I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE JIM CARREY MOVIE WHERE THE TOWN IS FAKE.

AND YOU FEEL LIKE LIFE'S REALLY STILL ROLLING ON BUT HE GOES INTO THESE OFFICES AND ARE EMPTY. AND THE ISSUE I'M HAVING EVEN WITHIN MY OWN BUSINESS WHICH IS INVOLVED IN THE COMMODITY MARKETS NOT GETTING PAID RIGHT NOW.

MAKEUP MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS GO THROUGH MULTIPLE LOCATIONS 5 TO 8000 EMPLOYEES HAVE GOT ME THAT PAID ME THAT 10 AND AT 15 HAVE GOT ME STRUNG OUT TO 90 AND HUNDRED 20 DAYS. THE REASON THEY'RE GIVING ME A SUIT DON'T HAVE ANY MANY BECAUSE ARE NOT GETTING PAID. I WANT THIS PARK, I WANT ALL THIS PART.

I BELIEVE WE WILL GET ALL THIS PARK. LOOKING FORWARD AWAY TO TOWNSHIP THIS THING A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T THINK WE WILL SHUT THE PARK DOWN AND NOT DO ANYTHING. HAVE TO GO WITH MY GUT. MY GUT HAS TOLD ME WHAT I'VE DONE IN MY PERSONAL LIFE. I MADE A LOT OF OBLIGATIONS TO MY FAMILY ON THINGS WOULD CHANGE IN PLACES WHERE FIXING TO MOVE IN PROPERTY WE WERE FIXING TO BUY IN A SHUTTLE THAT DOWN. NOT FOREVER BUT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

UNTIL I PROVE TO MYSELF THAT I'M WRONG IN MY GUT. RIGHT NOW MY GUT TELLS ME THAT WE NEED TO GET TO TURNING SOME DIRT AND WE NEED TO GET SPREADING THE $14 MILLION.

BUT, HE ALSO CAN DO THIS I BELIEVE IN A PHASE 10 AND PHASE 3 AND I BELIEVE WE CAN GET PHASE 2 ROLLING HARD AND HEAVY. AS WE COME INTO THE SPRING AND I SEE THAT I'M WRONG AND I CAN LAUGH AT HOW STUPID I WAS BEING TO CONSERVATIVE THAT WE CAN MOVE ON INTO THE NEXT PHASE PHASE 2 IS MOVING SO THAT'S MY GUT FEELING IS I NEED TO TIMESHIFT A LITTLE BIT.

I ALSO WANT TO GET WHAT WE HAVE ROLLING FORWARD. I BELIEVE THERE'S NO TIME THAT

WE NEED TO WAIT BUT THAT'S JUST MY GUT. >> I TOTALLY HAVE MORE CALLS ABOUT MY MEETINGS IN MY OFFICE LAST 2 DAYS THAN I EVER HAVE BEEN IN THE OTHER ITEM OF COUNSEL. I WILL AGREE AND ALL OF US REPRESENT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY. THE MORE CALLS WERE OUT OF CONCERN THAN IT WAS FOR IT.

PERSONALLY I WANT TO SEE THE PARK MOVE FORWARD TO AN EXTENT OF THE FACT THAT I AM THE YOUNGEST KIDS ON THE CITY COUNCIL. MY KIDS WILL USE THE PARK MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY WILL BE 2 AND 3 AND READY FOR THE SPLASH PAD. AT THE SAME TIME I CANNOT IN MY HEAD COME TO TERMS WHEN YOU SAY IT OUT LOUD SAYING I'M GOING TO SPEND $21 MILLION IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION IF YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A RECESSION DIFFICULT ECONOMIC CRISIS. I DON'T CARE.

THERE'S A WAY TO STILL GET EVERYTHING WE WANT OUT OF THIS PARK WITHIN A 24 MONTH PERIOD.

WE HAVE.ROLLING OFF. I'M GRATEFUL FOR FOR BEING. HUNDRED PERCENT GRATEFUL.

BUT, I ALSO ASKED MYSELF IF WE TAKE THEIR MONEY WHAT PROJECTS CAN THEY NOT GO TO NOW? WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS WHOLE PARK OURSELVES. WHY TAKE FROM THEM? HOW MANY OTHER THINGS CAN THEY GO BUILD? SO, THAT'S JUST MY VIEW ON IT.

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I THINK WE SHOULD PHASE IN. WE KNOW WE HAVE A BUDGET.ROLLING OFF IN 12 MONTHS. WE'LL GO GET THE MONEY IN 12 MONTHS TO GO TO PHASE 3. WORST CASE SCENARIO WE EXTEND COMPLETION OF THE PARK BY YEAR. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL

TAKE ON IT. >> CURIOUS OF WHAT THE EXPENSE WOULD BE TO REENGINEER AT THIS MORNING TO ENGINEER IT IN PHASES AT THE $14 MILLION LEVEL THEN EVENTUALLY PHASE 3 IF WE

WENT THAT ROUTE. >> I'M NOT CERTAIN HE WOULD HAVE TO RE-ENGINEER IT.

WE DO NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE.

IF WE PHASE IT WHAT WILL BE THE FIRST PHASE OF 14.2 AND WHAT WILL BE PUSHED ON TO ANOTHER DATE? THE WAY WE CHOSE TO ENGINEER AND REENGINEER THE ENTIRE PROJECT. WE KNOW WHAT ALL HAS TO BE DONE.

NOW IT'S BREAKING IT UP INTO PIECES IF THAT'S WHAT WE CHOOSE TO DO.

>> CHRIS, SO I AM CLEAR BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE MY PRIMARY QUESTIONS TO YOU A COUPLE DAYS AGO. I WAS THINKING THIS THROUGH. IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU JUST SAID BUT, I WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD POSSIBLY WASTED MONEY WITHIN THE SYMBOLS AND THE ENGINEERING PROCESS WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT A GOOD BIT OF MONEY ON.

THAT WILL ACTUALLY ENHANCE OUR ABILITY BECAUSE ALL THAT IS ON PAPER.

IF WE HAD TO BREAK THIS THING UP VERSUS. IN OTHER WORDS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY. IT'S NOT A COMPLETE ENGINEERING.

>> I THINK THERE IS THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE PHASE 1 THAT YOU CAN'T GET AROUND A LOT OF THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO DO. I'LL LET SOMEONE ELSE SPEAK IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE. I BELIEVE THE WAY WE ENGINEERED IT WE DESIGNED THE ENTIRE PARK.

SO THAT NOW WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE PIECES. AS YOU GUYS KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED BACK IN NOVEMBER. IT WAS COMING IN FOR THE 14 OR 15 THEN WE TOOK ANOTHER PROCESS. OBVIOUSLY COVID-19 CAME IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.

IF WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE 14 WE GOT FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.

>> CHRIS, WHEN WE WERE AT THE 14 THAT WAS PRIOR TO FORM THESE MONEY, FOR BEING HAS BOUGHT MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY, PART TRUCK PARTS OF MIDLOTHIAN PARKWAY. THEY DIDN'T FUND THE WHOLE THING. 4B IS FOR THE WARM AND FUZZY STUFF THAT IS NOT PIPES AND IRRIGATION. WHEN THEY SAID THEY WOULD VOLUNTEER THERE 5 WE GAVE THEM OUR LIST OF OUR 14 OR 16 BEFORE ENGINEERING. WE SAID OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. 4B WENT TO THAT SAME LIST. I LOOKED IN THERE AND THE ARTIFICIAL TO WAS PART OF ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED TO PAY FOR.

THE SPLASH PAD TRIPLED IN SIZE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED TO PAY FOR.

WHEN WE HAVE THE JOINT MEETING THAT NIGHT I DID SPECIFY THAT WHEN 4B IS PUTTING THEIR MONEY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT TO HELP A BUDDY BY HOW SOMEONE I KNOW WHERE MY LENNY WENT TO GO BUILD THAT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PUT TERMINATE. IT IS OURS BUT IT'S NOT OURS BECAUSE IT IS SALES TAX DOLLARS. IF THEY WANTED TO THEY COULD GO WRITE US A CHECK AND HAVE THAT INCOME COME IN. THE ARGUMENT OVER THE 5 SHOULDN'T REALLY BE AN ARGUMENT BECAUSE IT'S OUR MONEY BUT IT'S NOT OUR MONEY. IT'S THE CITY'S MONEY.

I MEAN, IF 4B IS AN APPOINTED BOARD AND THEIR SEVERED MEMBER STAND?

>> 7. >> 7 MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. THERE ARE 7 CITIZENS THAT HAVE 7 DIFFERENT OPINIONS. WE ARE 6 BUT WERE 6 PEOPLE SITTING APPEARED WITH 6 DIFFERENT OPINIONS. WE AGREED ON THE 14 AND THEY ADDED THE 5 AND THAT'S WHERE WERE AT. I MEAN, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE THROWING AWAY THE 5 MILLION THAT WERE GOING TO GET FOR FREE. NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

IT'S SITTING THERE FOR OUR USE FOR THIS PART. IT'S DEDICATED FOR IT.

IT'S BUDGETED FOR IT. EVERYTHING IS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT.T'S NOT LIKE WE'VE GOT A GO GET SOMETHING DONE. I'VE GOT TO GO SELL APART TO GET MORE MONEY. IT'S THERE. THE 6 YEARS I SAT OVER THERE THAT CORNER WHERE ART SAT I HAD TJ SITTING NEXT TO ME. THE ONE THING I ALWAYS LOOKED

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IN THAT WAS HIS BUSINESS. NOW, CONSTRUCTION QUESTIONS LIKE WE HAD ABOUT THE DRIVEWAYS AND STUFF EARLIER TODAY FROM THE SEAN JACKSON. THAT'S WHEN HE LEANED OVER AND ASKED ME QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AND STUFF. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I THINK WERE DOING EVERYBODY AND INJUSTICE BY NOT DOING IT AND CLAIMING THE SKY IS FALLING AND WE WILL WAIT 6 MONTHS. THERE'S A GUY WITH OTHERS TRYING TO BUILD THIS PARK MONTHS. I THINK IN HIS DEFENSE HE'S GIVEN UP JOBS BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION JOBS ARE SOMETIMES YEARS IN ADVANCE. YOU PLAN THEM AND YOU GET MATERIALS AND BIDS AND YOU COULD BE DOING A JOB THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND AND A HALF AND IF GIVEN UP FOR 5 OTHERS BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN WAITING ON THIS MORNING. I'M SORRY, I'M TOTALLY LETTING, I THINK WE SHOULD SPEND ALL OF IT.

IT SOUNDS BAD TO SAY THAT WAY. >> I'VE GOTTA SAY YES. WE KEEP A PIERCING BEFORE B DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT. I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

YOU'VE GOT A BUDGET TO DEAL WITH. YOU'VE COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION. I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. I'M DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT I'M HEARING APPEARED TONIGHT. I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE SAY WELL, IF YOU SET MONEY FOR THE PARK THEN THAT WON'T GIVE YOU, OR KEEP YOU FROM DOING SOMETHING NEXT YEAR IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THAT. YOU'RE THE ONE OUT THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GOT.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO. I BELIEVE THAT. MAYBE EVERYBODY APPEARED DON'T BUT I DO. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I APPRECIATE YOU WILLING TO STEP UP AND HELP US GET THIS THING DONE. I REALLY WANT TO GET IT DONE.

NEXT I SAT ON 4B FOR YEAR AND HALF BEFORE I CAME TO COUNSEL. I SERVED AS A LIAISON FOR 4B FOR THE PAST YEAR AND SOME MONTHS NOW. I'VE NEVER SEEN AN AGENDA ITEM WITH SO MUCH PASSION THAT THE 4B IS STANDING BEHIND. I BELIEVE THERE IN UNISON BEGGING US TO TAKE THEIR MONEY TO BUILD THIS PARK FOR CITIZENS.

THAT'S WHY WE APPOINTED THEM. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THEIR BOARD.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL GONNA SAY. >> NOBODY IS QUESTIONING TJ. >> MEHR COUNSEL.

SPEAKING TO BEING ON 4B. PASSIONATE ABOUT PARKS AND IT STARTED OUT THE FORMS ON CITY COUNCIL. I STARTED OUT ON THE PARK BOARD.

SHORTLY AFTER THE INITIAL BOND WAS PASSED AND PART OF THE EXCITEMENT AROUND ALL THAT.

I WAS ALSO PART AS JUSTIN MENTIONED PART OF THE BACKLASH. I TO HAVE A GOLD SHOVEL THAT WAS GIVEN WHEN I WAS ON COUNSEL WHEN WE STARTED THE PARK. IT WAS DISAPPOINTING TO BE EXCITED ABOUT SOMETHING THEN HAVE CITIZENS GO, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE OTHER STUFF? THAT WE BELIEVED WAS GOOD BEER. I AGREE.HOPE ALL ASPECTS OF WHAT HAS BEEN SHOWN TO OUR CITIZENS COMES ABOUT. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A YEAR, THAT'S VERY GOOD POINT.

I DON'T THINK WE TALK ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING OFF INEVITABLY.

WHAT I WILL SAY I WANT TO REITERATE THIS. PART OF THE FRUSTRATION EVEN IN PHASE 1 WAS NOT WHAT CAME ABOUT ECONOMICALLY TO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE DOLLARS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE FIRST BOND TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY COST AT THE TIME WHEN THE SHOVELS BEGAN TO TURN. HAD GONE UP SO SIGNIFICANTLY THAT WE COULD DELIVER A FULL PARK ON WHAT WAS GENERALLY APPROVED. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS EVER THE TRUE INTENT. I CERTAINLY WASN'T FEASIBLE. PHASE 2 HAS COME ABOUT.

PHASE 2 COMBINED WITH PHASE 3. PROVIDING SOME OF THE SAME VERY SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES.

MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT ARE GOING TO RUN AROUND THIS MERRY-GO-ROUND, COME BACK IN A YEAR AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT 4B USED $5 MILLION WE CAN GO TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS WERE GONNA DO IN THE PARK. THE STOCK WOULD BE 5 MILLION THIS COULD BE 6 MILLION.

THE INTEREST RATES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WHICH ARE CREATING THE POSITIVE CASH FLOWS BETWEEN THE BOND WITH MIDDLE LOTHIAN PARKWAY BEING PAID OFF IN TAKING ON THIS NEW DEBT WHICH

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LOTS OF REDUCING CASH FLOW ABILITY AND I AGREE. THIS IS THE ONLY PROJECT IN CDC IS BILLED FOR. ACTUALLY IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST APPROPRIATE THINGS.

IT IS THE MIDDLE LOTHIAN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PARK. WE COULD PAY CASH. $6 MILLION IN THE BANK.

WE COULD PAY CASH FOR THIS. MUCH LIKE WHEN YOU BUY A CAR BECAUSE THEY OFFER ZERO PERCENT FINANCING FOR 62 OR 84 MONTHS. BIGGER TERM. RIGHT NOW YOU COULD PROBABLY GET IT. IT'S BECAUSE THE COST OF MONEY FOR THIS IS CHEAP.THAT IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS. PAIN CASH WOULD SIMPLY MEAN THAT NEXT PROJECT COMES ALONG WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT. OR I WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT FOR ANOTHER BOND AND SHE WANTS ON THE BE BORN TO DO THAT. WHAT COST WITHOUT MONEY BE AT THAT TIME.

NO ONE KNOWS. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT PROJECT IS PRETTY WERE NOT TURNING DOWN ONE PROJECT TO DO THIS MORNING. THIS IS THE PROJECT.

THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE THAT SERVED ON THE B BOARD. THIS MONEY WAS BEING SAVED UP FOR A LARGE COMMUNITY SCALE TYPE OF PROJECT. I THINK OF TOM COLEMAN AND PEOPLE LIKE TAMMY TOBY WHO SERVED ON THE B CORPORATION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

THEY WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPACTFUL. JAN DAVIS WAS BACK ON B CORPORATION SERVED WITH MANY OF THEM FOR A LONG TIME. THAT'S A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT'S POSSIBLE WITH THIS PART. WE HAVE A HOTEL THAT THE MEZZANINE ALONE IS PROVIDED BY BONDS WITHIN THE B CORPORATIONS THAT WERE PAYING ON.

FOR US TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMAGE THAT WOULD DRAW PEOPLE FROM NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES OR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE TO STATE IN OUR HOTEL THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL SECURITY TO THE B CORPORATION BECAUSE WE KNOW ABERRANT PERSON PAIN MEZZANINE LOAN IS HEALTHY AND BEING ABLE TO PAY THAT LOAN FULLY OFF. IF THEY WERE TO DEFAULT IT WOULD BE A NEGATIVE TOWARDS THEM CDC. ANYTHING WE COULD DO SUPPORT THAT'S NOT ONLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY PER BUT PROVIDES A FINANCIAL BASE FOR SALES REVENUE CONTINUES TO ENHANCE THAT. WHEN WE CAN COUPLE THAT WITH HOTEL, MARRIOTT COURTYARD PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT. RESTAURANTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WE'LL SEE THEM RIGHT NOW. I'VE GOT SOME FAVORITE RESTAURANTS I WISH I COULD ATTEND TO. CERTAINLY ONE SEE ONE RESIDENCE AND OUTSIDE RESIDENTS COMING IN AND SPENDING THEIR DOLLARS HERE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD SO MUCH.HEN CAN WE GET A GOOD STEAK PLACE.

I KNOW WERE STILL WAITING ON THAT ONE. ALL THAT TO SAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF COVID-19 HAD NOT COME ABOUT THAT THIS PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

I THINK WE ALL WOULD SIT UP HERE AND SAY WE COULD SEE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO ALL OF THIS.

AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THE BIGGEST PART, WERE ASKING BETWEEN 14.1 OR 60.1 FOR THE FULL BOND WHICH INCLUDES ENGINEERING. THE BIG GAP IN THE STOP POINT IS ABOUT $2 MILLION.

IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION. IT'S NOT CHUMP CHANGE. 928,000 OF IT IS CONTINGENT STATE FOR COST OVERRUNS. I'VE TALKED WITH ABERRANT PARKS DIRECTOR.

THEY BELIEVE THEY COULD ACTUALLY COME IN THE WORK. BUT, THEY HATE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. AND SAY YEAH, WE WILL COMMIT HALF $1 MILLION LOWER.

IN OUR CURRENT NEED THE CONTINGENCIES SOBERLY TALK ABOUT HALF $1 MILLION.

SHE DOESN'T WANT TO COME APPEARANCE EVENT SO THAT'S NOT A QUOTE.

I'M NOT QUOTING HEATHER. I THINK MOST OF THE SMALL DIFFERENCES WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM WEATHERBY DO THIS AND DO IT TO NOT ONLY MEET BUT MAYBE IN SOME CASES EXCEED THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE. I THINK THIS ISN'T AN INVESTMENT. THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF RISK AND INVESTMENT.

BUT, I THINK THE RISK ARE VERY, VERY MINIMAL. AS IT RELATES TO THIS.

NOW, WHAT I CAN'T TELL YOU AND TED MENTIONED EARLIER I CAN'T TELL YOU OF HER PAIN TO MUCH FOR ROCK OR NOT. I CAN'T TELL YOU HER PAIN TO MUCH FOR YOUR CONCRETE THAT IS BEEN POURED OR NOT. WHAT I CAN'T AS WE GET TO THE POINT OF PAIN FOR THE SPARKS RELATES TO YOU GUYS PUTTING INTO 2 ADDITIONAL MILLION AND THE BE PUTTING IN 5. IF YOU CAN PAY TO TO GET 5 THAT'S A GREAT EXCHANGE. AGAIN I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TO SAY BEYOND THAT. IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU I'LL BE HAPPY TO.

CRACKS THE ISSUE BEFORE US IS NOT THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE PARK.

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ARE THEY GONNA COME BACK QUICKLY OR NOT? >>? SITTING HERE IN OUR BUBBLE WE DO HAVE SOME KIND OF BUBBLE WE DON'T FEEL THE IMPACT OF THE OUTSIDE WORLD. I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY THAT WERE NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE REST OF THE NATION. SORRY, THAT'S NOT TRUE. I DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT MY OWN BUSINESS BUT I GOT 3 FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES THAT HAVEN'T PAID ME.

I'VE GOT SEVERAL OF THE COMPANIES THAT SAY I WANT TO DEFER.

I WANT A REDUCTION. AT SOME POINT THIS IS GOING TO HIT MIDLOTHIAN.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT TO ME TO THE PREPARATION OF THIS UNCERTAIN FUTURE? THAT'S A QUESTION. NOT IF WE SHOULD DO THE PART. NOT THAT THE PARK IS JUSTIFYING. WHAT DO WE DO SEEING A SERIES RECESSION COMING AT US.

WE'VE GOT 2 CHOICES. MAYBE 3. THAT'S THE QUESTION. NOBODY IS CHALLENGING THE PARK.

THIRD CHALLENGE FOR ME IS WANT TO BE DUE ON WE HAVE A VERY HIGH LIKELIHOOD, A VERY SERIOUS DOWNTURN OR WORSE HEADED OUR WAY. I AGREE WITH MIKE.OPE I'M WRONG. I'M WRONG. I'M NOT READY TO GAMBLE ON WRONG. I CAN SEE IT AND FEEL IT AND IN MY BUSINESS AND OTHERS.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL ADD. >> WE ARE $14 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND ON THE PARK. WE CAN SPEND IT ELSEWHERE. THAT'S WHY SOME ARE SAYING GO AND SPEND $40 MILLION. THAT MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT ON THE PART.

WE HAVE THAT NOW. ANY OTHER MONDAY WE SPEND IS OPTIONAL.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I MENTIONED IS THERE WILL BRING SOME CLOSURE TO THIS FOR ME WHEN WE DO GET TO A CERTAIN POINT. BECAUSE WHAT WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF RIGHT NOW IS NOT OVER. WE WILL KEEP TALKING ABOUT COVID-19.

IT'S NOT OVER YET. THERE'S NO CLOSURE. WERE ACTING LIKE IT'S OVER.

I'M NOT GOOD WITH NAMES BUT THE DOCTOR FOSSE I BELIEVE IS HIS NAME.

HE IS RIGHT IN WHAT HE SAYING. THAT THE ONE THING THAT IS INEVITABLE, IT'S DEFINITE AS WE INCREASE OUR GATHERINGS IS IT'S COMING BACK. NOW, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT PERSONALLY. I HAVEN'T MISSED A DAY'S WORK. ALSO BEEN FORTUNATE TO BE IN A BUSINESS THAT'S ESSENTIAL. I HAVEN'T MISSED A DAY. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS CAUGHT IT THAT I KNOW OF. I DO KNOW HOW I'M SEEING THE REST OF THE WORLD GRANT FROM IT. THAT'S WHAT I CAN'T CONTROL. THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING, I GET ALL THE POSITIVENESS. I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT OF THE POSSIBILITIES.

I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT OF SPENDING THE 21 397 751 22. 6 MONTHS AGO.

BUT, I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT OF SPENDING $40 MILLION. NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT SHOVING ALL THE DIRT DOWN. WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS RETHINKING THINGS A LITTLE BIT.

BECAUSE WHAT I CAN'T CONTROL IS EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING TO WORK EVERY DAY AND I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WELL CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

THEY ARE SHUTTING DOWN. I DON'T GET, FURTHER ARGUMENTSB GOING TO SHUT DOWN THIS FALL BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION. DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT. I WOULD'VE NEVER DREAMED HE WAS SHOT THIS COUNTRY DOWN. LIKE WE JUST DID. NOT HERE TO ARGUE WHETHER IT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG. IF WE SHUT DOWN AGAIN FOR 6 WEEKS TO 8 WEEKS IS NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD THING. SO, I'M ALL FOR PROCEEDING. I'M ALL FOR DOING THE PARK.

I THINK HONESTLY IT WILL BE DONE QUICKER THAN 2 YEARS. I THINK WE WILL HAVE DIRT READY AND WE GET INTO THIS EARLY SPRING AND WE SEE THAT THINGS ARE ROLLING BETTER THAN WE THINK THEY WILL. WE NEED TO GET THAT MONEY PUMPING RIGHT BACK INTO IT, HOWEVER WE NEED TO DO IT TO GET TO THESE NUMBERS. I BELIEVE THERE'S A WAY TO WORK IT ALL CONTINUOUSLY TOGETHER WITHOUT HAVING BIG BREAKS. JUST REMEMBER FOR ME PERSONALLY FEEL WEIGHT CRASH TOOK EXACTLY A YEAR. IT TOOK FROM SEPTEMBER OF 08

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I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT ALL TODAY. NOT DOING THAT AT HOME WITH MY PERSONAL FAMILY. I'M VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THIS PARK.

I THINK OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE IT. I THINK IT'S WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED. JUST A PERSONAL HOME I PROMISE MY FAMILY A LOT OF PERSONAL THINGS ARE NOT GETTING RIGHT NOW. I HATE IT.

THEY WILL GET THEM. SOON ENOUGH WHEN THINGS TURN AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

>> ARE YOU OKAY TO SPEND 14 MILLION? >> YOU BET.

>> WE'VE GOT TO SPEND IT. >> BUT ON SPEND THE 5.4B WANTS TO GIVE US?

>> IS THE CONCERN OVER 4B DEFAULTING ON THE LOAN? >> NUMBER.

>> THE ISSUE IS THE COUNCIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW THE CITY'S MONIES SPENT.

THIS IS ALL CITY MONEY. >> IS THE CONCERNED OBJECTS OF BUILDING FACILITIES WHILE

OTHERS ARE IN AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN? >> THE ISSUE IS WHEN WE DO WITH CASH GOING INTO A RECESSION? IN MY BUSINESS AND FAMILY LIFE IN OTHER PLACES I'M COMING BACK. BECAUSE, IF I GO THROUGH DOWNTURN OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURN I NEED THAT RESERVE TO FALL BACK ON. THANKS SO SET THE CONCERN FROM

CITY STANDPOINT THAT WE NEED MORE RESERVED FOR BACK ON? >> I'M JUST SAYING IN FRONT OF THE RECESSION THAT COULD BE COMING I CANNOT JUSTIFY SPENDING THIS MUCH MONIES THAT

WE DON'T HAVE TO. >> I WOULD CONTEND THAT IN A TRUE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THE MOST BANG FOR SOMEONE'S TAX DOLLARS IS A PART. YOU SEE IT PICTURES FROM THE DEPRESSION. THE KIDS ON THE BASEBALL FIELD. DRESSED IN RAGS AND THROWING THE BALL AROUND. I WOULD CONTEND THAT IN A TRUE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO 6 FLAGS THE WATER PARK THERE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE SPLASH PAD UTILIZING THEIR TAX DOLLARS AND PUTTING THEIR TAX DOLLARS TO WORK BY UTILIZING OUR PARKS.

>> SO LET'S HOLD ON TO OUR RESERVES AND CRASHES OUT FOR THE DUPER DEPRESSION THAT WE GET THE LABOR MATERIALS REALLY CHEAP. PARDON MY DARK HUMOR.

>> I GUESS THE THING FOR ME IS IN GETTING FROM THE MAYOR IS I'M NOT THAT FAR AWAY FROM KNOWING BUT I'M ABOUT 6 TO 8 MONTHS AWAY FROM KNOWING. THERE'S A GAP HERE.

BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. HERE'S THE KEY TO ME. AS I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO IS THE KEY. THE COVID-19, THE BIG KAHUNA ON THE TABLE.

IF IT COMES BACK THIS FALL DEPENDING ON THE REACTION OF THE GOVERNMENT'S PLURAL IN THE PEOPLE'S WHAT KIND OF REACTION MECHANISM TO GET OFF OF THAT? IF WE SHUT DOWN AGAIN FOR 6 TO

8 WEEKS THIS WINTER IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY. >> SURE.

DEFINITELY THE PUBLIC SECTOR I AGREE. MY QUESTION IS CAN I KNOW ANY DIFFERENCE IN NUMBERS FINANCIALLY SPEAKING FROM A CITY STANDPOINT UNTIL TAX APPRAISALS ARE ISSUED FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. REALLY PUSHING IT OFF 6 MONTHS

IS THE POINT. >> THAT UNCERTAINTY AS PART OF LIFE AND PART OF BUSINESS.

THIS IS THE CITY. YOU MAKE PLANS AS BEST YOU CAN BUT YOU HAVE TO ADAPT TO WHATEVER THE FUTURE BRINGS YOU. I THINK IN THIS CASE WERE BETTER OFF NOT SPENDING MONEY THAT'S NOT ESSENTIAL AND SOME ARE BETTER PREPARED FOR WHATEVER UNCERTAINTIES COME IN

THE FUTURE. >> THE CONCERN IS FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT FROM THE ACTUAL CITY. THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO HOW DO WE WANT TO PUT THIS.

I COULD UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS A NORMAL BUSINESS. FROM THE ECONOMIC STANDPOINT FROM THE CITY THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SITUATION. WHEN I GO TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S A TRUE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN ON THE TONSILS FOR ANOTHER YEAR. IF IT'S AN ECONOMIC CONCERN ARE THE OBJECTS OF US BUILDING SOMETHING WHILE OTHERS ARE STRUGGLING I CAN SEE THAT POINT AS WELL. TO ME, I REFUTE WOULD BE THAT THEY'RE GETTING SOMETHING FOR

THEIR TAX DOLLARS. >> ARE THEY GETTING SOMETHING IN 9 MONTHS OR A YEAR.

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OR TO BE GO AHEAD AND GET THE PARK WITH ALL THE BENEFITS HE LAID OUT.

>> THE ECONOMIC SITUATION WITH THE MUNICIPAL CITY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH THE FINANCES OF THE CITY? >> UNCONCERNED OF THE CITIZENS AND THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT ON THE CITY GOVERNMENT. WHEN THIS IS ALL TIED TOGETHER AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. ULTIMATELY MIDLOTHIAN IS TIED TO THE NATIONAL ECONOMY.

WE HAVE, OR SHELTERED HAVE BEEN SHELTERED AND IN SOME SENSE I THINK WE WERE SHELTERED AWAY.

WE WEREN'T AS BAD AS OTHER PLACES. NORTH TEXAS CAME TO THEM.

THERE COULD BE AN IMPACT ON THE CITIZENS AND THEREFORE THE CITY TO SPEND THIS MONEY AT THIS MORNING I DON'T THINK IT'S WISE. I DON'T THINK IT'S WISE.

>> MR. MERRITT, TJ SIMONI IN HIS BANK ACCOUNT WE CAN TOUCH NO MATTER WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE CAN'T TAKE AS MONEY AND GIVE PEOPLE TAX MORNING. SO.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT IS. >> YOUR WORD ABOUT SPENDING TJ

IS MONEY. >> IS NOT TJ SIMONI. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE MAN.

>> IS THE 4B BOARDS MONEY. >> WE CAN'T GO AND TAKE THEIR MONEY FROM THEM.

>> IS THE CITY'S MONEY. >> WE CAN'T TAKE IT FROM THE AND USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

>> NOT TAKING IT FROM THEM. >> THERE ARE YOU READY TO GO SPEND 14 MILLION ON THE PART?

>> SURE, YES. >> IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. >> YOU GET THE 5 FOR FREE.

>> IT'S NOT FOR FREE. THERE'S OPPORTUNITY COST AND ECONOMICS.

>> OKAY WHAT DID WARREN BUFFETT, ONE OF HIS FAMOUS THINGS THAT HE SAID WHEN OTHERS ARE SELLING YOU BY. WHEN OTHERS ARE BUYING YOURSELF.

IT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. >> WHAT IS WARREN BUFFETT DOING RIGHT NOW?>> GOVERNMENT ROLE

THE ECONOMY ESPECIALLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. >> LET'S DO SOMETHING.

LET'S GET OFF, IF I'M GOING TO ANOTHER. I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO AHEAD AND WE ASKED THE MAN THAT WROTE THIS PROPOSAL. NOTICE HOW MUCH IT WILL COST IF WE WAIT 6 MONTHS. KNOWS HOW MUCH IT MIGHT COST IF WE WAIT A YEAR.

WE STARTED OFF 14 OR 16 TOTAL. >> AGAIN. >> WILL NEVER HAVE A RESPONSE BACK. WHENEVER POSSIBLE COURT. WILL NEVER HAVE THE OTHER

AMPHITHEATER. THE WALKWAY, THE BRICK LEDGE. >> THIS COUNSEL WILL TURN INTO

ARGUING WHETHER WE DO BASEBALL COMMUNITY DRIVEN STUFF. >> WELL.

I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. THE QUESTION AGAIN.

>> WHY? >> THE QUESTION IS THE ARGUMENT I'M MAKING IS THAT WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF ECONOMIC SERIOUS CRISIS IN FRONT OF US THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE WHOLE NATION AND US. GIVEN THAT DO WE WANT TO SPEND OPTIONAL MONEY ON A MUCH NEEDED DESIRE PARK OR DO WE WANT TO HOLD ONTO THAT AND NOT SPLENDID AND SEE HOW THE ECONOMY GOES.

WE COULD START WITH THE 14 BILLION BUT, WHAT WE DO WITH A RECESSION IN FRONT OF US.

POTENTIAL, WHAT WE DO? TO BE GO AHEAD WITH THE PARK OR NOT?

TO ME THAT'S A QUESTION. NOT IF WE SHOULD DO IT. >> I THINK IT'S REAL SIMPLE.

IT'S THE SAME THING I'M DOING MY PERSONAL HOME. JUST LIKE IN MY PERSONAL HOME I WAS ABOUT TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY. I WAS ABOUT TO BUILD A NEW HOME ON IT. I WAS ABOUT TO CONTINUE GOING ANOTHER BUSINESS OF BUYING THAT SENSE SOLD ALL PARTS AND PIECES OF THAT BUSINESS WHICH ARE A MONEYMAKER.

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OR DOES IT MEAN AND 3 OR 4 B& THAT'S PRETTY SANE. WE CAN START WHATEVER PROCESS.

>> I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU 5 MILLION RIGHT NOW WHAT HE GONNA DO WITH THAT?

>> THE APPROACH OF THE 5 MILLION IS TO PROVIDE THE 2 MILLION CORRECT?

>> THAT'S NOT A FAIR ANALOGY. YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE YOURSELF $5 MILLION IN ONE POCKET AND THE OTHER TO TAKE YOUR FAMILY OUT DISCIPLINE. LOOK, FOR SOMEBODY WANT TO PUT

EMOTION? >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TJ. >> AND RJR FOR WHOMEVER.

WHY DIDN'T WE DO THIS LIKE ANY OTHER PROJECT OR WE WOULD'VE WENT BUILD SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAME BEHIND AND SAY HEY WE WENT OUT THIS OR DO THIS INSTEAD OF YOU JUST HAVING US $5 MILLION.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. >> THEY FUNDED A HOTEL CLERK.

>> 'SQUESTION IS IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WHY DID SHE WAIT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL UPON SOMETHING AND START THE PARK AND THEN COME AND OFFER MONEY TO IMPROVE IT AS OPPOSED TO GOING IN FRONT OF THE DECISION TO BUILD THE PARK AND PUT YOUR MONEY TO US BEFORE THE

FACT. >> THAT'S HOW I THOUGHT THE LAST PROJECTS WERE DONE.

I MIGHT BE WRONG. I WAS WALKING DOWN THE PARKING LOT.

I MIGHT'VE MISUNDERSTOOD. >> I CAN UNDERSTAND ANSWER MY QUESTION.

THE DIFFERENCES WE BROUGHT BACK IN NOVEMBER WE BROUGHT THE 14 MILLION THE COUNSELOR TIME INSTRUCTED US TO GO TALK TO THE 4B AND ASKED THEM IF THEY ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE.

SO WE WENT AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE THEY CAME UP WITH A NUMBER.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT WORKS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO GO TALK TO THEM.

>> ONLY WITH DATES OF 5 MILLION WAS IN OUR JOINT WORK SESSION IS ABOUT 5 LANED DOLLARS CAME UP. WITH THE PARTICIPATION OF THE CITY WHICH I THOUGHT AT THE TIME THE NUMBER WAS LIKE 1.9 MILLION OF WHICH ALMOST HALF OF THAT OR CLOSE TO IT WAS CONTINGENCY RESERVE FOR OVERRUNS. WHICH MEANS IT'S LIKELY HAS A POTENTIAL TO COME BACK TO THE CITY SO YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT A $1 MILLION DIFFERENCE.

WE FOUND THE RESPONSIBILITY AND STILL FEEL THE RESPONSIBILITY IF WE DON'T DO THIS EVEN IF WE DO IT LATER. MORE TO TAKE THE SALES TAX, THOSE ARE SPENT MONEY.

WHEN NOT ASKING CITIZENS TO SPEND ANYMORE MONEY. THIS IS SPENT MONEY FOR UTILIZING THEIR SPENT MONEY. SPENT ECONOMIC POWER TO ENHANCE THE PARK FROM 14 MILLION THAT'S LEFT OVER TO PUT THINGS INTO IT THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BRING GREATER BENEFIT RIGHT? IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT. IT'S ICING ON THE CAKE. STILL A GREAT CAKE PRINT FOR $2 MILLION I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GET ENJOYMENT AND WITHOUT. ALSO THINK THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS COUNSEL WORK ON THE SUPPORT OF THE DOZEN ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS WOULD ENJOY ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT WERE PUTTING IN HERE. YOU CERTAINLY COULD SAY HEY YOU DON'T NEED A SPLASH PAD BIG. WELL, NO YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE ONE. IF YOU CAN HAVE ONE AND HE GOT THE ABILITY WITH THIS OVERALL LARGE SCALE PROJECT TO PUT SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT YOU WOULDN'T OTHERWISE DO, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S WHERE I HAVE SENSE. I'M SPEAKING SOLELY FOR MYSELF.

THAT'S A SENSE OF WHAT I FELT WHEN WE HAD A JOINT MEETING. THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE SALES TAX ABILITY THAT WE PUT INTO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO OTHERWISE. OTHER FUTURE PROJECTS? I'M SURE THERE ARE.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES.E DO SMALL THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WITHOUT WRESTLING CLUBS WITH COMPS. THOSE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.

WE HELP THOSE KIDS ORGANIZATIONS. DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE BEEN ABLE TO HELP WAIVER FLAGS OF 4TH OF JULY PARADE. FRONT OF MY 4B.HOSE ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES WE WANT TO ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I'LL BE HONEST, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS WITHOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

ECONOMICALLY BECAUSE AGAIN I CAN'T THINGS I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.

ON THE ECONOMIC SIDE OF THIS DEBT CALLABLE WE WOULDN'T BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE AS AGGRESSIVE POSITION FINANCIALLY TO HANDLE A $5 MILLION. BECAUSE IT IS COMING OFF THERE IS ATTENDING HERE. STIFEL CONFIDENT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LAST.

AGAIN, UNDERSTAND THEIR AND MIKE CASHMAN ROGERS. CONCERNED.

I WOULD SAY IS WHAT I KNOW IS A PERSONAL FINANCES DON'T WORK THE SAME WAY A CITY FINANCES.

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I FOUND OUT THAT SOMEHOW MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT WORKS ESTATE TAXES.

WORKS IN A DIFFERENT ASPECT. AGAIN, IT'S YOUR VOTE. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE POSITION WHERE I SAID. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. I AGREE WITH YOUR CONCERN.

I'VE CANCELED VACATION DURING THIS PERIOD. THE SAME POINT I STILL THINK 4B WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THEIR $5 MILLION BOND ISSUANCE WITHOUT CONCERN.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANKS TJ. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO OFFER A

MOTION? >> ONLY COMOTION. I MOVE WE APPROVE.

>> APPROVE THE 21 MILLION AS PRESENTED? IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

3 ÃTHREE. THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF MATURITY.

CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS TO US ON HOW WE CAN PROCEED FROM THIS MORNING?

SHOULD WE PERHAPS CONSIDER A $14 MILLION PARK? >> ETHICAL HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO THAT. I THINK WE WILL NEED ANOTHER WORKSHOP TO DEFINE WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD FROM 14 MILLION. I THINK REPUBLIC WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT OUT FOR BID.

I MAY BE WRONG. WE WILL TALK TO DANE CONSTRUCTION.

>> HE WILL CALL THE WORKSHOP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE. >> YES.

>> SO AFTER ALL THE TIME AND EFFORTS GOING INTO THE BID PROCESS IS JUST RESOLVED?

>> YES. PROBABLY. WE WILL TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR ABOUT THAT. THE NEXT 2 ITEMS, CHRIS WILL HE BYPASS THEM?

54 AND 55? >> IF THE COUNCIL IS FOR IT. >> ONE VOTE FOR YOU.

IF THERE'S NO DESIRE TO UTILIZE BEFORE THE FUNDING AT THIS MORNING THAT THERE'S NO NEED TO

DO THE NEXT 2 ITEMS. >> SO WE CONTINUE THEM? >> IF YOU APPROVE, I'M SORRY ABOUT LOOKING AT THE ITEM. THE ONE THAT'S A NOTICE OF INTENTION TO SELL THE

CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. >> NO ACTION. >> HERE'S THE THING.

IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHT WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW THE GIFTS OF THIS WORKSHOP THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO REVIVE THE SPIRIT WE'VE GOT TILL JUNE 28 EFFECTIVELY FOR THE BID THAT'S IN PLACE.

MR. FIREBALL SAID HE WOULD TRY TO HOLD IT FOR 2 DAYS TO GET US TO JUNE 30.

IF WE, IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHT WE WOULD WANT TO UTILIZE THE 4B FUNDS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ADVERTISE THIS NOTICE OF INTENTION TO ISSUE. THAT STARTS AT 45 DAY CLOCK BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY SELL THOSE BONDS. OUR PROPOSAL WAS WE WOULD PUT THE ADVERTISEMENT, 45 DAYS IS JUNE 30. IF IT'S ALL THE BONDS ASSUMING THE PARK WAS APPROVED. WE WILL SELL THE BONDS, SIGN THE CONTRACT AND MOVE FORWARD.

IF THERE'S NO, IF WE DON'T HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE THINGS THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY OF

USING THE 4B FUNDING GOOD THAT WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION. >> I THINK WE SHOULD START OVER

ON THIS. >> THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. >> QUESTION 4B FUNDING.

THEY VOTED TO APPROVE GIVING TESTIMONY. AS HER TIMELINE, DOES NOT

EXPIRE? >> I EXPIRES BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO ALSO IS WILL THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROJECT ITSELF. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY EXPIRATION ON THAT PUBLIC HEARING. PROBABLY NOT.

UNLESS THEY WANT TO GO BACK. THEY MAY WANT TO GO BACK TO VOTE TO RESEND IT.

>> MIGHT NOT BE 5 TO COME BACK TO. >> MIRROR, THERE'S NO INTENTION OF TRYING TO UTILIZE THAT 5 MILLION BEFORE JUNE 30 THEN YOU CAN SKIP THE NEXT 2 ITEMS.

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THERE WILL BE NO ACTION. >> I GUESS ANY DOUBTS THE COUNCIL.

PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENTION TO ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION.

WHY HAVE COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? >> I GUESS YOU GOT 3 PEOPLE.

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HE WOULD LIKE CLARK. >> CONGRESSIONAL VOTE FOR SELF SUBDURAL FOOTING.

SO, MOTION PRACTICE 20 2153. CAN WE JUST CONTINUE IT? OR TABLET?

>> WELL, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS? IN YOUR OPINION?

>> IF YOU'RE SPLIT 3 ÃTHREE. REVIEW DO NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AVATARS.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TOMORROW. TAKE A VOTE TAKE ACTION ON IT AND PASS IT TAKE ABOUT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE 3 Ã THREE.

>> ONLY COMOTION THAT WOULD TAKE NO ACTION. THE SECOND?

>> SECOND. DISPLACEMENT. PLACEMENT TO TAKE NO ACTION.

>> 20 2154. >> DON'T DO IT? OKAY.

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>> COUNSEL WILL BE BRIEF BECAUSE I KNOW WE BEEN HERE A WHILE TIME.

AS PREVENTION EVERY YEAR THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS A LONG-TERM PLANNING DOCUMENT.

THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT INTENDED TO BE A VERY SPECIFIC DOCUMENT. JUST GIVES US A 5-YEAR LOOK WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE. THIS IS A SECOND VERSION OF THIS THAT STAFF HAS PREPARED.

I WILL LET YOU KNOW WE DID GO BACK THROUGH WE PULL BACK ON SOME OF OUR REVENUE ESTIMATES.

WE HAVE VERY LITTLE THAT WERE ASKING FOR IN THIS FIRST YEAR BECAUSE WE WILL WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE ECONOMY WILL DO. IF YOU LOOK IN THERE YOU MUST SEE FOR EXAMPLE THERE'S ONLY ONE RECOMMENDATION FOR PERSONNEL. THAT IS VERY UNUSUAL FOR THE CITY AS WE ARE GROWING AND THAT'S AN SRO WE WOULD GET REIMBURSEMENT HOPEFULLY FROM THE NIST. OR CUTTING BACK ON STREET SPENDING.

BASICALLY GOING BACK TO BASICS FOR RIGHT NOW THAT WE REPAIR, REPLACE AND WE DON'T ADD ANY NEW PROGRAMS AT THIS MORNING. THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND. THE UTILITY FUND, THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE THERE IS 4.9 MILLION. IN CAPITAL.

THE LARGE PART OF THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT IS THE EXPANSION OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLAN. AT AUGUR. AT THE AUGUR PLANT.

WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. THIS WOULD BE JUST OUR GUIDE AS WERE GOING INTO THE BUDGET. AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE SUMMER WE WILL LOOK AT SPECIFICS AND WE WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OUR SALES TAX ON PROPERTY TAX.

AT THAT POINT. >> ONE QUICK QUESTION. YOU USED TO BOARDING THEIR

USAGE GOING BACK TO THE BASICS. WHY IS THAT? >> BECAUSE WE HAVE UNCERTAINTY

ABOUT THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> MOTION PLACE. MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY, PLEASE VOTE. PASA 6 ÃSURMOUNT.

HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR

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