May 26, 2020 City Council

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MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[ Citizens to be heard]

[Consent Agenda]

[Item 2020-172]

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I'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS YOU GUYS ARE DEALING WITH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FLEXIBLE THEY ARE.

BUT WE LOOKED AT EACH OF YOU TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS IN A PRUDENT WAY THAT BENEFITS THE CITIZENS AS A WHOLE.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'VE GIVEN ME TONIGHT TO VISIT WITH

YOU. >> I'M SORRY, ALLEN MCKEEVER.

>> GOOD EVENING, ALLEN MCKEEVER, 1434 PLUM CREEK DRIVE. LONG STANDING RESIDENT OVER 40 YEARS. I REPRESENT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM DOWNTOWN, THAT ENCOURAGED ME TO COME UP AND TALK.

WE WOULD -- THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T CRAM EVERYBODY IN HERE BUT WE WOULD LIKE THE PARK FINISHED.

WE WOULD LIKE THE PARK FINISHED WITH THE ORIGINAL $14 MILLION, THE 14 MILLION THAT'S LEFT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO PREFER THAT IT BE THE COMMUNITY SIDE.

IT BE THE FREE SIDE. NOT THE BASEBALL FIELD WHERE THE PAID COACHES CAN RESERVE THEM AND BLOCK OFF THE COMMUNITY.

THE COMMUNITY WANTS THEIR FREE AREA.

THEY THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

SO WE WOULD LIKE THE PARK FINISHED AND WE WOULD LIKE EMPHASIS ON THE COMMUNITIES SIDE FIRST, WITHIN BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, BUDGET. YOU KNOW, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER IN DOWNTOWN AND WE HAVE BEEN CLOSED PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. TOOK A BIG HIT.

DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO BORROW ANY MONEY TO STAY IN BUSINESS.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN THAT ARE STRUGGLING.

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THANK YOU. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I MEAN SORRY, THE -- WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE TONIGHT DID WE? OKAY.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, MY APOLOGIES. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. AS A NATION WE'RE ENTERING AN UNPRECEDENTED PERIOD OF TIME. THE LAST 12 WEEKS HAS BEEN A PRELUDE FOR WHAT WILL COME NEXT IN OUR LIVES.

THIS PRELUDE SAW US PROTECTING THE LIFE AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYBODY ELSE. WE HAVE SLOWED THE ECONOMY AND WE KEPT THE ECONOMY ALIVE BY PUMPING MONEY INTO IT, MONEY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AND MONEY THAT MUST BE PAID BY FUTURE PEOPLE. AND LIKE NAVARES WHAT IS IN FRONTS OF US MIDLOTHIAN CANNOT FIX THE ROOT CAUSES OF THE ECONOMY. BUT WE CAN CHOOSE HOW WE PROCEED AND HOW WE REACT TO OUR SITUATION.

THERE ARE FOUR THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT. FIRST, WE NEED TO PRESERVE OUR RESOURCES AND OUR CAPITAL. SPEND MONEY WISELY AND MAKE SURE WE PROTECT OUR RESERVES FOR THE COMING STORM.

WE NEED TO MANAGE OUR DEBIT. ASSUME DEBT ONLY FOR ITEMS OF NECESSITY OR ITEMS THAT HAVE SUCH VALUE THAT THEY JUSTIFY THE TAX BURDEN PLACED ON CITIZENS. WE NEED TO RELIEVE TACK BURDEN ON ALL CITIZENS. THIS PROBABLY IS THE MOST DIFFICULT OF THE FOUR TO DO. WE NEED UNITY, WE DPLEED TO COME TOGETHER AND FACE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, WE'LL NOT ALWAYS AGREE. THIS HAS BEEN, A PERIOD OF UNCERTAINTY. WE DO NOT KNOW THE DEPTH WE WILL FACE, HOW SEVERE IT WILL BE. WE DO NOT KNOW THE WIND WIDTH O, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE AFFECTED, AND THOSE THAT WON'T AND WE DON'T KNOW THE LENGTH OF IT HOW LONG IT WILL LAST.

THERE IS A SENSE IN MIDLOTHIAN WE ARE PROTECTED OF SOMETHING TO COME, WE SOMEHOW FEEL WE ARE IN A BUBBLE.

THIS IS NOT ONLY NATION BUT WORLDWIDE.

TEXAS WILL BE IMPACTED AND MIDLOTHIAN WILL BE IMPACTED.

WE SHOULD NOT FEEL THAT WE WILL BE IMMUNE TO THE PREALTS OF ECONOMY. WE MAY BE IMPACTED LESSER THAN OTHER AREAS BUT WE SHOULD NOT COUNT ON IT COMPLETELY.

HOWEVER THERE IS GOOD NEWS. MIDLOTHIAN IS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE FOR THE TIME TO COME. THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO COME BEFORE US, FINANCIALLY WE'RE VERY SOUND.

WE HAVE GOOD RESERVATION AND OUR DEBT IS VERY MANAGEABLE.

OUR STAFF HAS PROVEN ITSELF TO PROVIDE AN EXCELLENT JOB OVER THESE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. AND THAT WE CAN EXPENDITURE EXPS GOING FORWARD. OUR COMMUNITY HAS RESPONDED WELL. THEY HAVE BEEN MATURE AND RESPONSIBLE. THEY HAVE SELF-MANAGED.

FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, I SEE A PERIOD OF LASTING TWO YEARS.

NOW THERE'S UNCERTAINTY SO ANYBODY WHO PUTS A PERIOD ON THIS IS PROBABLY A BIT FOOLISH. I THINK ONE YEAR IS TOO OPTIMISTIC. I THINK THREE YEARS IS TOO PESSIMISTIC. BUT I DO THINK IN SIX MONTHS WE WILL KNOW WHERE WE ARE. WE THE PEOPLE MUST TAKE BACK THE REINS OF OUR SOCIETY AND THE ECONOMY AND DO OUR PART.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOBER AND MEASURED DISCUSSIONS.

WE DPLEED TO BE CIVIL IN OUR RESPONSES.

WE NEED TO HELP THOSE AT RISK, WHO NEED TO HELP THOSE IN NEED.

WE NEED TO ADHERE TO OUR MOTTO, IN GOD IS OUR TRUST.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

>> OF COURSE, WE DID HAVE A WORKSHOP LAST WEEK.

AND I THOUGHT I HAD IT ALL FIGURED OUT UNTIL I GOT TO THE WEEKEND. I HAD SEEN SOME EXTRA TIME TO THINK THIS WEEKEND. AND IT CAUSED ME AS I OF COURSE WAYNE AND TED AND I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL LONG ENOUGH TO BETO HAVE BEEN THROUGH MOST OF THESE TALKS. HAVE ALL THESE TALKS.

AND WE'VE EVEN HEARD THE PRETALKS OF THE PRETALKS.

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AND SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS OCCURRED, THE FIRST QUESTION OF COURSE IN MY MIND IS, I WANTED TO SEE WHERE IS THE $16.1 MILLION BUDGET LIST. BECAUSE I WANT TO LAY IT ASIDE THE $23 MILLION BUDGET LIST. WELL, THERE'S A PROBLEM.

THERE ISN'T ONE. THERE'S NOT A $16 MILLION BUDGETS LIST. SO YOU WOULD ASK YOURSELF ALLOW DID WE COME UP WITH $16.1 MILLION? AND I'VE GOT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMUNITY.

I HAD THOUGHT ALL THIS TIME THAT SLOW OR ANOTHER, THAT JUST COST HAD GOTTEN OUT OF HAND OR PERHAPS CONSTRUCTION HAD GOTTEN OUT OF HAND. AND JUST GROWN OVER TIME.

SO THEN, I ASKED TO GET MY HANDS ON ALL OF THE INFORMATION OF WHICH A COUPLE OF FOLKS SHARED DURING THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

AND ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS THAT I CAME UP WITH, I LIKE TO CALL IT AN INFORMATIONAL PACKAGE.

WE SENT AN INFORMATIONAL PACKAGE TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT HAD PHASE 2 AND PHASE 3 AND A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF THE PARK OF WHAT IT WOULD BE. AND I THINK WHEN PEOPLE REFERRED TO WE HAVE TO GIVE THE FOLKS WHAT WE PROMISED THE FOLKS WE WERE GOING TO GIVER THEM, THIS IS WHAT THEY REMEMBER.

THIS. AND WHAT WE HAVE OF COURSE THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS IS THIS PROVIDES FOR $16.1 MILLION.

SO THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF INFORMATION.

AND WE HAVE HERE BASEBALL FIELDS, EIGHT FIELDS AT $1.25 MILLION EACH AT $10 MILLION. TRAILS IN THE PARK AT HALF A MILLION, SPLASH PAD AT 1 MILLION, COURTS AND TENNIS BASKETBALL AT A HALF A MILLION. PLAYGROUND AT ADDS UP TO 13.1 MILLION AND THEN WE HAD PHASE 3 WHICH WAS THE AMPHITHEATER AND THE POND, DREDGING AND WALLS FOR THREE TO FIVE MILLION, FOR SOME REASON WE CAME UP WITH 3 MILLION AND WHEN YOU COME UP WITH 13.1 YOU COME UP WITH THE MAGIC NUMBER OF THE DAY, 16.1.

THEN YOU SAY, WHAT HAPPENED? THEN THIS CAME ALONG, THE BIG PICTURE. AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT THAT BIG PICTURE AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF STUFF IN IT.

AND WE STARTED PLANNING AROUND THAT PICTURE.

AND IN THAT PICTURE, WE STARTED GETTING A LOT OF SOME FOLKS INVOLVED AND ALL OF US HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND DIFFERENT OPINIONS. FOLKS WHO LIKE AMPHITHEATER, THEY MIGHT ENVISION THAT OUR AMPHITHEATER OUT THERE IS GOING TO BE LIKE BASS HALL. AND FOLKS THAT LIKE BASEBALL, THEY MIGHT ENVISION MORE BASEBALL FIELDS LIKE RANGER STADIUM. AND THE FOLKS THAT LIKE TO PLAY VOLLEYBALL, THEY'RE LIKE TO ENVISION WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ALMOST AN OLYMPIC GRADE VOLLEYBALL SAND PIT.

WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, SO WE'VE GOT VERY NICE FACILITIES PLANNED. BUT WE HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THE STANDS ON THE BASEBALL FIELD, WE HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THE -- EXCUSE, GO AHEAD, WE'VE GOT SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THE VOLLEYBALL PIT. THERE IS NO VOLLEYBALL PIT ON HERE BUT WE GOT ONE. WE GOT SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THE BASKETBALL COURT. I REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN COUNCIL MEETING OR IT WAS A WORKSHOP.

AND IT WAS BACK IN THE EARLY STAGES WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ALL WE THOUGHT THIS PARK OUGHT TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE COMMUNITY PORTION. AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE POND. AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE POND NEEDED TO HAVE SOME ROCKS AROUND THE EDGES, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITTLE KIDS FISHING TOURNAMENT EVERY YEAR AND WE DON'T WANT THOSE KIDS FALLING IN OR GETTING MUDDY.

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WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AND THIS HAS SLOWLY EVOLVED. IT'S NOT BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EVERYTHING.

BUT EACH LITTLE SECTOR OF OUR COMMUNITY THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN IDEAS OF WHAT THAT PERFECT PARK WOULD BE.

AND THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS LITERALLY BEEN FRONT-LOADED WITH ALL OF IT. SO WHEN I'M PROPOSING TO THIS COUNCIL TODAY, AFTER I'VE HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT ALL WEEKEND, AND HONESTLY FINALLY JUST ABLE TO CONCLUDE TODAY, OF HOW DID WE GET TO WHERE WE GOT? WE DIDN'T TRULY, I DON'T BELIEVE, I KNOW WE DIDN'T -- WELL I CAN TELL YOU WE DON'T HAVE A $16.1 MILLION BUDGET FOR THE PARK.

SO I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW THAT HAPPENED.

WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

AND WHAT I DO KNOW IS, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING ON PAPER RIGHT HERE OF WHAT WE TOLD THE FOLKS WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE.

THERE'S NO SHADE STRUCTURES. THERE'S NO ROCK ARRAYS IN THE TRAIL SYSTEM. THERE'S NO $700,000 PLAYGROUNDS.

NOW I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT $100,000 IS GOING TO COVER IT.

I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS WHAT I DO KNOW AND I PROPOSE TO THIS COUNCIL I CAN'T VOTE FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK MYSELF. AS WE PRESENTED IT, AS I'VE HAD MORE TIME TO 30 ABOUT IT. BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT IS TO BUILD OUR PARK.

WE HAVE $14 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO -- WELL, WE NEED TO SPEND.

WE'RE PAYING DEBT LOAD ON IT RIGHT NOW.

AND WE CAN'T LEGALLY DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT MONEY AND WE CAN'T RETURN IT. SO WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT MONEY. NOW, IN MY MIND, AND THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT POP OUT TO ME, IF WE -- WE HAD $1 MILLION HERE FOR THE SPLASH PAD AND WE HAD $1 MILLION FOR THE AMPHITHEATER. THAT IS 2 MILLION.

WELL IF YOU PULL 2 MILLION OUT OF THIS, MAGICALLY, THAT LEAVES $14 MILLION. WHICH IS WHAT WITH WE HAVE.

IMAGINE THAT. NOW, HERE'S MY PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE CAN GET THOSE 2 MILLION I JUST TALKED ABOUT PULLING OUT, COVERED BY ANOTHER FUNDING ENTITY, AND THEN, YOU SAY BUT MIKE, THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE POSSIBLY THREE TO $5 MILLION MORE AMENITIES THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE SOMA COUNCIL TO GET OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITY, AND TO LOOK FOR SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK FOR AND REQUEST SOME POTENTIAL FUNDS LOCALLY, THAT COULD -- AND WE MIGHT NOT GET ALL THE WAY THERE. HEAVEN FORBID, WE MIGHT GET TO 17 MILLION OR 18 MILLION AND WE'D BE SPENDING ONLY OUR 14 MILLION, AND WE MIGHT GET 80 OR 90% OF THE WAY THERE, AND THEN WE CAN FINISH THESE AMENITIES OUT TO GET TO THE PARK WE WANT TO HAVE OVER THE NEXT TWO TO FIVE YEARS.

THROUGH LINE ITEM BUDGET NUMBERS AND JUST DID WAY THAT WE MAINTAIN AND MAKE ADDITIONS TO PARKS THAT WE HAVE NOW.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD -- THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD HOPE WE COULD MOVE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I DO THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY BALL PARKS AND COMMUNITY SIDE.

BUT WITHIN WHAT YOU WERE PRESENTED.

SO IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO THE GET ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ALL OF IT AS I SEE IT. THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.

WAYNE CITY AGREED WITH ME A LITTLE BIT, THOSE OF YOU ON

CAMERA. >> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WISDOM TO WHAT MIKE IS SAYING. AS YOU ALL KNOW AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS NOT UP TO DATE, I WAS ALL FOR BUILDING THE PARK AND GETTING THE PARK DONE. I WAS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT SAID WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE COMMUNITY TO COME THROUGH MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. I'VE SAID THAT SENTENCE MANY TIMES. I WANT TO GET THE PARK DONE.

I WANT TO GET THE COMMUNITY SIDE AND THE BASEBALL SIDE DONE.

AND I'M WILLING TO MAKE CONCESSIONS ON SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE LIST, WE CAN TAKE OUT, WE COULD DELAY, WE COULD CUT, WE COULD SHARPEN OUR PENCIL.

I'M WILLING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

I'D LIKE TO NEGOTIATE AND TALK IT THROUGH AND I'D LIKE TO

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I'M WILLING OR I'M OPEN TO THE IDEA OF ALTERNATE FUNDING THROUGH SOME OF THE MECHANISMS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

AND I'M PROBABLY NOT QUITE AS FIRM ON HOLDING IT AT THE 14, AS MR. RODGERS JUST MENTIONED. I MIGHT BE WILLING TO CONCEDE AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN ORDER TO GET A FEW MORE AMENITIES. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S AN ANSWER THERE. THERE'S AN ANSWER SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 14 AND $21 MILLION AND THIS COUNCIL'S SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT OUT. WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO IT. THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> I HAD THE FIGHT READY TO GO. THIS ONE THREW ME OFF.

>> YEAH, I HAD A LITTLE SPEECH PREPARED JUST LIKE MIKE AND MIKE KIND OF DID IT FOR ME. I WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION.

I WAS HERE IN 2006, I WAS SITTING IN THE BACK, MY MOM WAS ON COUNCIL, SHE FORCED ME TO BE HERE.

SO I WAS -- MY -- PART OF ME JUST WANTS TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE KIND OF AN APOLOGY, THAT SOMEWHERE WE LOST OUR WAY.

I WAS ON THE THE 2017 BOND COMMITTEE.

I HAVE MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED AND SOMEHOW WE WENT FROM THIS CONCEPT TO THIS CONCEPT WHICH THREW US OVER BUDGET AND FROM PAST AND CURRENT COUNCIL NONE OF US CAUGHT IT AND HIT THE BRAKES UNTIL WE GOT SO FAR INTO THIS.

BUT I DO THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS ADDED THAT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN. HALF MILLION DOLLAR BATHROOM, 600,000 PLAY ROOM, STORAGE FACILITIES, WHICH I DO THINK ARE ALL THINGS NEEDED. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY BASEBALL CAN GO WITHOUT A STORAGE FACILITY.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO STORE SOMETHING.

BUT I ALSO THINK 21 MILLION WAS DEFINITELY OVERSPENDING.

I DO THINK THAT THE COUNCIL, BE WE'RE ALL SMART ENOUGH TO SIT DOWN AND WORK SOMETHING OUT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET THIS BUILT TO AS CLOSE A BUDGET AS WE CAN GET.

I DON'T KNOW IF 14 CAN DO IT. ALL I'VE DONE IS WORK ON THIS PARK ALL MEMORIAL WEEKEND, AND I'VE CUT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU CAN CUT OUT OF IT AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO 14 UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING OUT MORE BALL FIELDS.

SO I AM NOT FOR SPENDING 21. I AM FOR SPENDING THE 14 AND TRYING TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO CAN GET DID ADDITIONAL MONEY EVEN IF WE NEED TO GO TO OUR LOCAL INDUSTRY AND FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPONSOR LIKE A SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT OR BASKETBALL COURT. THAT GOOGLE CAN PUT GOOGLE BECOME ON THE GOAL FOR ALL I CARE BUT WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THE PARK DONE. BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT BASEBALL DESERVES A PARK AND SO DO THE CITIZENS.

WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THE WHOLE THING FOR AS CLOSE TO BUDGET AS WE CAN POSSIBLY GET TO, THAT'S THE WAY I WANT TO GO.

>> THAT'S SOMEBODY OUT HERE SAID, WE DON'T NEED ALL THE FRILLS. WE WANT EVERYTHING BUT WE DON'T

HAVE TO POLISH IT ALL. >> AND THIS WAS A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION, LET'S STAY WITHIN THE ENGINEERING THAT HAS BEEN

COMPLETED. >> THAT IS THE ISSUE, IS WHAT THAT CONCEPT PLAN AND WHAT WE ENGINEERED IS TWO DIFFERENTLY THINGS. THAT'S WHY THERE IS SO MUCH ADDED COST. BUT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

GET US BACK -- >> THE QUESTION WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER ENGINEERED STEP.

>> I BELIEVE WE CAN TAKE WHAT IS CURRENT ENGINEERED WHITTLE IT DOWN AND BUILD SOMETHING THAT FEELS LIKE A COMPLETE PARK TO SOMEONE WHO IS TRAVELING IN AND OUT OF TOWN, VISITING FAMILY, WHATEVER, GOES TO THE PARK AND HAVE THE FEEL OF A COMPLETE PARK EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW MAYBE LATER ON WE CAN ADD THINGS A LA CARTE THROUGH A BUDGETING PROCESS OR POTENTIALLY ALTERNATE FUNDING.

>> I WROTE WOULD LIKE TO ECHO T YOU'RE SAYING.

MIKE YOU SHOWED THAT CONCEPT PLAN.

EARLY, OR REALLY BACK IN 2018 WHEN THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONCEPTUAL, THE PREENGINEERING FANS, WENT TO OSHA AND EVERYTHING STARTED ESCALATING, WE CAME BACK IN EARLY 2019 AND SAID THE NEW DESIGN IS WHAT WE WENT WITH.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GO BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL PLAN BECAUSE ALL THE ENGINEERING'S BEEN DONE WITH THE

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>> WHAT WE CAN MAYBE DO IS STAY AS CLOSE AS WE COULD WITHIN THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT, BUT PERHAPS OMIT WHAT WE CAN'T AFFORD RIGHT NOW. FOR INSTANCE -- AND I'M JUST PICKING THINGS. IT DOESN'T -- AND I'M NOT THE SOLE PICKER. SO MINE MAYBE TTYS MAINTENANCE BUILDING. EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE NEED IT, I'M JUST PICKING IT, MAYBE THE ASTROTURF.

MAYBE IT'S READY TO GO WITHIN TWO YEARS.

MAYBE THE PLAYGROUND IS A HALF OR A THIRD OF WHAT IT WOULD BE, I'M GOING DOWN THIS LIST BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK IF WE CAN FIND THE ADDI ADDITIONAL FUNDINO WHERE THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT OUT ANYMORE, I'M HOPEFUL AND CONFIDENT WE CAN, I THINK WE'RE ONLY WITHIN THREE OR $4 MILLION OF MAKING THIS WORK.

AND I BELIEVE THAT KIND OF -- THERE'S ENOUGH CURRENT FAT THAT CAN BE CUT OUT THERE THAT CAN ALWAYS BE ADDED BACK IN LATER.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS THINKING. >> I AGREE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE THROUGH THE LAST LET'S CALL IT SIX MONTHS GOING BACK TO NOVEMBER WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE BIDS, THAT YOU KNOW THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN START CUTTING.

WHATEVER BATTING CAGES, YOU KNOW, YOU NAME IT.

WE CAN DO THOSE. I JUST -- I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET TO 14. BUT WE CAN GET DOWN.

>> OKAY, MY TURN NOW, RIGHT? CLYDE, THAT SHEET YOU GAVE ME TODAY,ING WITH THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ON IT, THE SOIL CONTROL, DEMO AND THE EARTH WORK, THOSE ARE REAL NUMBERS OR ARE THOSE -- THE BID NUMBERS, THOSE ARE REAL BID NUMBERS.

ALL RIGHT, WELL CLYDE AND I WORKED DOWN WITH MINIMAL CUTS, NO BASEBALL FIELD LOSS, NO -- YOU KNOW JUST BETWEEN HIM AND I KIND OF THROWING SOME CRAP TOGETHER.

WE GOT DOWN TO 18,863,95 AND THAT WAS JUST HIM AND I THROWING SOME EASY STUFF OUT THERE THAT T WAS GETTING RID OF SOME LANDSCAPING, THE BATTING CAGE, LIGHTING, NONMARINE GRADE POLITING BUILDING FIXTURES JUST SOME EASY STUFF.

SOME REAL SUPER-EASY THINGS. AND THE THE THE LEAGUE STORAGE BUILDING THAT AS OF TUESDAY I WAS TOLD THEY DIDN'T WANT IT ANYWAY, THERE'S $295,500 RIGHT THERE.

THE BASKETBALL COURT IS AN EASY PUT-UP LATER AND THAT WAS $63,825. THE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT AGAIN IS AN EASY PUT-UP LATER BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE OR RIGHTS TO IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S $119,000. THE BATTING CAGES THEMSELVES IS $301,000. I JUST CUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN 30 SECONDS, OKAY GUYS? WE ASKED FOR THE TAJ MAHAL, THEY GAVE IT TO US. STAFF GAVE US EVERYTHING WE ASKED FOR, WE JUST DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS COMING IN THAT TIGHT. WHAT WE CAN DO, PROBABLY WOULDN'T TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES IF ALL OF US WOULD AGREE ON A NUMBER. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

SOMEWHERE AGAIN 14 AND 18,863. SOMEWHERE WE NEED TO GET A NUMBER AND GET TO IT STAFF AND TELL THEM NO MORE NO POLICE.

>> THE NUMBER THAT I HAVE WITH THE DOLLARS WE HAVE IS 14 MILLION. I BELIEVE WE CAN COME UP WITH ANOTHER 2 MILLION FOR SOMETHING I HAVE IN MIND.

AND I BELIEVE WE CAN ALL KIND OF PUSH A LITTLE BIT.

WE CAN MAKE IT COME UP WITH ANOTHER TWO TO 3 MILLION.

>> THERE'S YOUR 18. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. BUT WE NEED ANOTHER TWO TO THREE WEEKS TO THINK ON THIS. WE CAN'T MAKE UP OUR MIND

TONIGHT. >> I KNOW, WE CAN'T MAKE AUP OUR MIND TONIGHT. THAT WILL DIE, HOWEVER WE GET AROUND THAT DOCUMENT THERE. BUT WE WILL LOSE A LOT OF BID NUMBERS. SOME WE WILL GAIN MONEY ON SOME WE WILL LOSE MONETIZE ON. EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW BIDS GO.

SOMETIMES YOU'RE GOOD, SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT.

IT'S JUST A CHANCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO CULT OUT BETWEEN 17 AND A HALF AND 21, 397,000, WE NEED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND GIVE STAFF A REAL NUMBER TO SHOOT FOR. NOT FOR THE STARS BUT GIVE THEM A NUMBER. WE NEVER HAVE GIVEN THEM A NUMBER OF EXACTLY HOW MANY DOLLARS WE WANTED TO SPEND.

WE CONCLUDED THE 4B MONEY IN, EVEN WHEN ART WAS STILL THERE,

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THAT WAS SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE WITH.

BEFORE WE GIVE THEM ANOTHER JOB WE HAVE TO AGREE.

>> NO, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST THE REST OF THIS WEEK.

>> OKAY, I'M NOT ARGUING THAT POINT MIKE.

THAT'S NOT THE ARGUMENT. I WANT US ONE TWO THREE FOUR SIX PEOPLE TO AGREE HERE IN FRONT OF THE LAWYER, ABOUT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, THAT WE WANT TO GIVE STAFF, AND THAT DOESN'T CHANGE.

>> ONCE WE KNOW THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.

>> IS THAT OKAY? >> TED, YEAH --

>> CAN WE DO THAT. >> WE NEED TO BE PART OF WHAT

GETS PULLED OUT. >> NO, I AGREE WITH THAT HAPPEN THAT, THAT'SWHY I MADE THIS LIS. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT BY MYSELF,

HELL NO. >> NOT SAYING THAT EITHER.

BUT WE SHOULD NOT -- WE SHOULD NOT PUT ON STAFF THE TASK OF FIGURING OUT WHAT ALL TO PULL OUT WITHOUT OUR ACTIVE

INVOLVEMENT IN THAT PROCESS. >> WELL, THE NUMBER IS WHAT WE

WANT TO GIVE STAFF. >> YES.

>> BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ARGUING, EVERYONE IS ARGUING

OVER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT

NUMBER? >> WE'RE GOING TO FIX SOME OF THAT TOO. WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS

TO TAKE OUT. >> IT'S BEEN OUR PROBLEM, IS WE CAN'T CUT. AND THAT'S WHY I ARGUED FOR IT INITIALLY, 14 MILLION TO FORCE US TO HAVE THE DISCIPLINE TO CONSIDER AND CUT THINGS NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WANT TO COME BLACK AND LOOK FOR ALTERNATE FUNDING TO GET US BACK

UP. >> YOU CANNOT GO TO THE VOTERS AGAIN AND ASK THEIR PERMISSION AT THIS POINT.

>> I KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

>> SO IF YOU AGREE TO THIS YOU MAY NEVER GET THAT MONEY BACK.

IF YOU AGREE TO THAT 12 MILLION --

>> THAT'S MY CONCERN. >> NO NO NO, I'M IN AGREEMENT IS

WHAT ALL I'M SAYING. >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CUTS POTENTIALLY FOR WHAT WE MIGHT GET APPROVAL FOR.

>> THOSE CUTS ARE HERE. >> AND THOSE CUTS ARE HERE.

>> AND WE NEED TO FINDS OUT HOW FIND OUT HOWTO DO THAT WITH $14.

THEN WE HAVE TO ASK PEOPLE FOR, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THE SPLASH PAD, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THE AX IF I THEATER.

WITH THE AMPHITHEATER.

>> I CALL FOR THE QUESTION. WE NEED A MOTION.

>> WELL, THAT'S THE -- >> MOTION IS DENIED, THIS OUT.

>> WELL, WITHIN THAT MOTION, DO WE NEED TO -- DO WE WAIT UNTIL AFTER THAT FOR STAFF VICE OR ADR WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND?

>> HOW DO WE DO THAT? >> IF YOU WANT DO MAKE THAT MOTION AND IT DENIES, IF IT GETS DENIED, THEN WE'LL NEED SOME DESTRUCTION. EVEN IF THAT'S JUST BRING IT BACK TO ANOTHER WORKSHOP AND KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME

CUTTING. >> OR DO WE NEED TO SAY LET'S --

>> YOU CAN EITHER TABLE IT -- >> COME BACK WITH A WORKSHOP --

>> CONTINUE, RIGHT? >> DOESN'T OUR BID GUARANTEE IN JUNE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK OUT FOR REBID IF WE TAKE

THIS TIME? >> IF IT LASTS PAST JUNE 28TH, YES. THERE'S A CHANCE.

I MEAN SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HOLD THE BIDS AND SOME MAY NOT.

>> WE'RE GOOD TO JUNE 28TH. >> WE KNOW WITH THE 90 DAYS THEY LET US UNTIL JUNE 28TH WITH THE BIDS THAT WE GOT.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY I'M KIND OF TAGSING ALONG.

THESE WERE COMPETITIVE BIDS THAT WENT OUT.

EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON.

SO THEY SET THAT 90 DAY TWOID WWINDOWTO WHERE THEY CAN WITHDR.

>> I LIKE THE ABOUT MENTALITY THAT TED IS TALKING ABOUT.

I MAKE DECISIONS WHAT I CAN GET BASED ON THE $100, THAT MAY MEAN I HAVE TO CUT OUT SOME OF THE KIDS POPSICLES OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A NUMBER AND WORK BACKWARDS FROM THE NUMBER. AS MIKE SAID IT WILL TAKE TIME TO FIND POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE FUNDING.

>> I CAN FILL IT OUT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP FROM WHERE WE'RE AT NOW SOMEWHERE IN THE 18 OR 19 RANGE.

>> WE GOT TO GET THIS OTHER FUNDING TOGETHER FIRST.

>> GOING FORWARD TONIGHT I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO THE 14TH.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED.

WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET THERE AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE

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>> YOU GET THE 14 FROM US. ARE WE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE

PERFORMING? >> THEN I -- MIKE.

I THINK WE -- I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO --

>> WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TO WORK FOR -- OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS CAN BE INVOLVED THAT POTENTIALLY WE HAVE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

LUCKILY TO GET SOME OTHER INVESTMENT SIDE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE BE INTERESTED IN SOME RECOGNITION, FOR PROVIDING FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT IF IT'S FOR ME, I WILL TELL YOU I PERSONALLY AM NOT INTERESTED IN THIS ECONOMIC TIME AND I BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM IT AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR OF THE PRESENTERS DURING THE RED PROPORTIONALITIES THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, NOT ONLY THAT BUT A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE GOT THAN SPOKE. I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF WHAT I FELT THEY WERE SPEAKING TO. I'M NOT ON BOARD FOR 4B EMPTYING IT COVERS AND GETTING ANOTHER DEBT LOAD NO MATTER HOW CHEAP THE MONEY IS SO WE GOT TO SEE WHAT PROPORTIONALITY THAT WILL BE. WHAT PORTION OF 4B?

>> THAT'S WHY I'M VERY -- >> I THINK WE'RE GETTING OFF --

>> I DO TOO. I THINK WE'RE GETTING TOO FAR AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND TAKING THINGS FOR GRANTED.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE 4B INTO THAT PROPOSITION AND I FEEL WE

ARE GETTING INTO THAT -- >> THEY ARE HOLDING A MEETING

THIS THURSDAY NIGHT. >> THE THOUGHT THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESS ABOUTED BEFORE IS, WE SHOULD GO, THIS IS MY OPINION, WE SHOULD GO WITH 4B WITH SPECIFIC REQUESTS NOT ASKING FOR SOME AMOUNT DOLLAR, WE SHOULD GO BACK AND SAY HERE'S WHERE WE NEED HELP TO FINISH THIS PARK, HERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES WITH SPECIFIC COSTS.

THEN I THINK WE COULD JUSTIFY TO THE PEOPLE PEOPLE WHY WE'RE USING CITY MONEY FOR THOSE PARTICULAR ACTIVITIES.

TO EMPTIES 4B COFFERS I DON'T THINK IS WISE AT THIS POINT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO REPROACH THIS IN A WORKSHOP SETTING WITH SOME

SHARP PENCILS. >> WHAT ABOUT THIS NEXT TUESDAY?

>> THE SOONER THE BETTER ON THE SUBJECT.

>> WE THINK WE KNEAD MORE TIME, WE MAYBE APPROACH THE PRIVATE

SECTOR AND SEE. >> I THINK WE CAN GET THERE AS THE MAYOR SAID THIS TUESDAY AND GET IN A GREAT FORMAT GETTING A FEELING HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THESE DOLLARS WHICH GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHAT PROJECTIONS ARE GOING TO DROP OFF AS THE MAYOR SAID. THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING FEASIBLE WE CAN APPROACH, EVEN THOSE SECOND TIER FUNDING MECHANISMS, IT COULD RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 5 GRAND TO 700,000 OR A MILLION

BUCKS, WHO KNOWS? >> SO MIKE IS SAYING YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK ON I BELIEVE IT'S JUNE THE 2ND, JUST BRING IT BACK IN A WORKSHOP SETTING, A WEEK FROM TODAY.

>> A WORKSHOP. I WOULD PREFER TO DO IT IN THIS SETTING SO WE CAN HEAR EACH OTHER.

>> YES. WE WILL.

WE'LL HAVE IT HERE. AND YOU'VE GOT THE -- BUT WE CAN PROVIDE RO IT TO YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU HAVE GOT LIST OF THE 21 VMENT 3 PREVIOUSLY, WE'D BE GLAD DO GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU AGAIN AS A BASELINE TO START PULLING COSTS.

>> SO MIKE WILL YOU CRAFT A MOTION FOR US?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN NEED ONE.

NO ACTION, JUST -- >> WE DON'T NEED TO TITLE THIS

ANYTHING? >> NO.

IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S JUST AN ACTION ITEM.

WE JUST TAKE NO ACTION AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK AT A FUTURE DATE.

>> DO WE VOTE HERE ON NO ACTION? >> NO.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOW ON 2020172, COUNCIL TAKES NO ACTION WITH A WORKSHOP NEXT TUESDAY ALONG THE LINES THAT WE DISCUSSED.

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CLINT. >> THANK YOU.

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THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE WILL BE OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, THE BUILDING WILL BE TUCKED PRETTY FAR BACK THERE.

SIMILAR TO OTHER STRUCTURES ON STOUT ROWD.

PROPOSED STRUCTURE ONCE AGAIN LIKE I SAID, WILL MEET AUXILIARY OUR MINIMUM STANDARDS. ON YOUR INNER PACKET YOU'LL SEE SHOWING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION, PRIMARY STRUCTURES WHICH WILL BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, IN ACCORD TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THIS IS PERMITTED BY THE ZONINGS ORDINANCE, THEY ARE GOING TO MEET THE CONCRETE APPROACH, RIGHT HERE IN THE FRONT, MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONCRETE APPROACH. GENERALLY WE HAVE DRIVEWAYS COME TO YOU FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROCESS HOWEVER, THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT DRIVEWAY APPROACH AND THEY MEET ALL OUR ENGINEERING AND FIRE ARE REQUIREMENTS.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THIS DESIGN DOES NOT REQUIRE A

PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WANT ONE OF THEM.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THERE IS A SECOND. PLEASE CAST JURY VOTE.

YOUR VOTE. ITEM IS APPROVED 6-0.

>> THAT WAS EASY. OKAY, ITEM 2020-167, CONSIDER AN

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS WOULD REPLACE OUR CITY HALL AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM FOR AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING. THAT SYSTEM WAS PUT IN IN 2006, SLIGHTLY BEFORE MY TIME. WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE THAT WITH A NEWER SYSTEM. THE METASYS SYSTEM IS A MODULAR SYSTEM SO WE CAN START EXPANDING IT ONCE WE HAVE THE CONTROL SYSTEM AT CITY HALL AND TO OTHER SYSTEMS AS WELL.

IT IS AN EXPANDABILITY, PORTABILITY AS WELL TO OTHER FACILITIES. THIS WAS A BUDGETED EXPENSE AND

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> MOVE.

OKAY SORRY MAYOR. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION GO AHEAD.

>> DO THEY CLAIM ANY COST SAVINGS BECAUSE OF THEIR SYSTEM

BEING -- >> YES, THERE IS A CLAIM THAT WE CAN REDUCE COSTS BY MAKING THIS MORE EFFICIENT, THERE'S REPORTING FUNCTIONALITY, WE CAN LOOK AT AREAS WHERE WE ARE OVERUTILIZING THE SYSTEM TO TRY TO PARE THAT ADOWN.

>> DO THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR ITSELF OVER SOME AMOUNT

OF TIME? >> SURE SOME SURE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE, IT PASSES 6-0.

THANK YOU MIKE. >> ONE WAY TOO G TO GET YOUR QUN

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IN, JUST DON'T HIT THAT BUTTON. >> 802020-168.

CONSIDER AN ACT UPON AUTHORIZING THE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A RETAIL WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH SHARKA LLC.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

THIS MATTER IS FOR SUPPLYING WATER, WE ARE THE RETAIL PROVIDER FOR THE CITY WITHIN OUR CCN SO THIS CONTRACT REALLY HAS FALLEN IN LINE WITH WHAT WE ARE TYPICALLY DOING WITH OUR INDUSTRY OUT AT RAIL PORT. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WERE COVERED IN THE ORIGINAL MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, ALONG WITH THE WATER AND WASTE WATER KICKS AGREEMENT THAT'S CLUFD WITHIN INCLUDED WITHINTHIS AGREEMENT A.

IT IS A 20 YEAR AGREEMENT. IT HAS THE ABILITY TO BE EXTENDED ON MUTUALLY CONSENT. MUTUAL CONSENT.

THERE IS NOTHING DIFFERENT ON THAT RATE AS WELL AND WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE, SECONDED. VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 6-LO. >> THANK YOU MIKE.

>> THANK YOU. 2020-169.

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ADAM. >> MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.

PRESENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A UTILITY PROJECT THAT WE'RE

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WE HAD SEARCH CONTRACTORS, THIS CONTRACTOR HERE IS SPECIALIZING IN THIS KIND OF WORK. WE DID SOME BACKGROUND CHECK ON THEM, WE HAVE NOT WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE HOWEVER I'M VERY CONFIDENT IN DECLARE CAPABILITIES.

IN FACT I WELCOME THEM TO MIDLOTHIAN, IN FACT WE WILL SUCCEED IN THIS PROJECT IF APPROVED, AND WE HAD SEVEN BIDDERS WHICH WAS EXCITING. ALSO, THE ALTERNATE BID WE'LL PROBABLY PUSH IT OUT NEXT YEAR DEPENDING ON THE BUDGET, HOW IT COMES ON UTILITY BUDGET NEXT YEAR BUT THIS IS A FUNDED PROJECT, IT IS IN UTILITY FUND NOT A GENERAL FUND, A UTILITY

FUND PROJECTS. >> WHEN DID YOUR BIDS GO OUT.

>> LET'S SEE, THEY WEBSITE OUT ON APRIL 21ST.

>> IS 7 A SURPRISING NUMBER? >> WELL, ACTUALLY, WE DON'T EVEN IN THE TIMES THAT WERE DIFFERENT THAN NOW, WE DIDN'T GET THAT MANY BIDS AND WE WOULD AVERAGE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE.

THERE WAS SOME INTEREST ON THIS ONE BUT UTILITY COMPANIES ARE STILL VERY BUSY AT THIS TIME, THEY ARE PLAYING CATCHUP FROM ALL THE SUMMER ANYWAY. I THOUGHT THE INTEREST WAS GOOD AND WE HAD VERY STRONG BIDS OUT THERE AND THEY WERE ALL PRETTY RELATIVELY CLOSE. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THIS DONE IN A ESTABLISHED PART OF TOWN.

>> CORRECT SIR. >> I MAKE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE IS SECONDED, PASSES 6-0, THANK YOU ADAM.

>> THANK YOU. >> ITEM 2020-170, CONSIDER AND

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>> I'M HERE FOR MIDLOTHIANING DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THIS IS AN INCENTIVE THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR THROUGH THE DEDICATED FUNDS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION THAT IS THE TYPE A FUNDS THAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN REFERENCING. LATE LAST FALL WE WORKED WITH GRADOW ON ULTIMATELY A LONG TERM PLAN AND STRATEGY OF HOW WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO HELP ENSURE TO RETAIN AND HELP TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATION THAT THEY HAVE HERE. GRADOW IS A SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYER IN OUR COMMUNITY NOT ONLY FOR CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN RESIDENTS BUT THROUGHOUT COUNTY AND SOMEBODY THAT ULTIMATELY CONTRIBUTES SIGNIFICANTLY TO OUR REGIONAL ECONOMY.

WHAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD IS AN INCENTIVE THAT CAPS OUT ULTIMATELY AT $1.5 MILLION, SO IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THEIR TOTAL PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE A 70 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY, IT MAY SEEM AS A RELATIVELY SMALL INVESTMENT, ALTHOUGH I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THOUGH THE DOLLAR NUMBER IS SMALL, THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING LEVERAGED BY THE COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PROJECT HAPPEN AND ULTIMATELY TO RETAIN AND KEEP THAT FACILITY HERE AND OPERATIONAL IN OUR COMMUNITY. WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE PUT FORWARD IT IS A POSTPERFORMANCE INCENTIVE AND SO THE COMPANY WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR ANY OF THE INCENTIVE PAYMENTS UNTIL AFTER THE INVESTMENT WAS IN PLACE, THE JOBS WERE IN PLACE, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT FACILITY HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, CONTINUING TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY LONG TERM, AND SO AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, THE ULTIMATE PAYOUT WOULD CAP OUT AT $1.5 MILLION AND ULTIMATELY, THE DECISION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS DECISION THAT THEY HAVE MADE TO ENTER INTO THIS PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AND SO YOU ARE APPROVING THE PROGRAM AND ASSOCIATED EXP EXPENDITURES THAT THIS HAS. WITH THAT ARE THERE ANY

QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? >> THE LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE OUT THIS PAYOUT?

>> SO ULTIMATELY THE AGREEMENT IS STRUCTURED SUCH THAT PAYMENTS

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THE PAYMENTS WOULD NOT HAPPEN UNTIL THE FACILITY IS COMPLETELY IN PLACE. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IS ON THE TAX ROLL HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN SUCH THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO COMPLETE THEIR PROJECT AND TO CHOOSE WHEN THAT YEAR 1 WILL BE.

BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST, 2022. SO WE KNOW 2023 WOULD BE THE LATEST THAT THE FIRST YEAR OF THAT INCENTIVE WOULD BE.

>> OKAY. >> I WOULD JUST STATE I'VE HAD SEVERAL CALLS ABOUT THERE SUBJECT.

AND I KNOW SOME CITIZENS DON'T UNDERSTAND OR LIKE, AS THEY PERCEIVE, GIVING AWAY DOLLARS. CHAPARRAL IS ALWAYS CALLING, HAS BEEN A POSITIVE PARTNER IN OUR COMMUNITY SINCE THE '70S.

I REMEM REMEMBER MANY YEARS WHER TAX REVENUE WAS MORE OUT OF WHACK. WE WERE VERY HEAVILY RELIANT ON OUR COMMUNITY, TO WHERE IT WAS SOMEWHAT LOOKED UPON AS ALMOST A LIABILITY BY OUR BOND RATERS. I JUST LOOK BACK OVER ALL THOSE YEARS THAT THE STEEL MILL HAS PROVIDED FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND A TAX BASE. IT'S BEEN A GOOD EMPLOYER.

IT'S A SAFE PLAGUES PLACE TO WOR WHAT THEY DO.

IT'S A DANGEROUS PLACE AND THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.

MY TAKE ON THERE WILL BE AND I WILL ALSO ADD THIS SO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE LISTENING WILL UNDERSTAND.

WE'VE DONE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE PAST TO HELP OTHER PORTIONS OF OUR INDUSTRY WITHIN SOME SALES TAX HELP AND SOME AABATEMENTS AND OTHER WAYS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'VE ENTERED INTO SITUATIONS SUCH AS THIS WITH WITH ANYTHING THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY ATTACHED, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, I'M NOT A HUGE SOLAR FAN BUT I GET IT. AND I KNOW THE FOLKS AT CHAPARRAL AND THE ENGINEERS OUT THERE, THEY ARE NOT JUST DOING THIS FOR FUN. THEY VIEW THERE AS A WAY TO KEEP THAT PLANT OPEN AND TO CONTINUE TO BE A CONTRIBUTE TO A LARGE PORTION OF OUR TAX BASE. SO I DO THINK THIS IN THIS CASE

IS A GOOD IDEA. >> I PUT A QUESTION ON THE MAXIMUM ANNUAL GRANT. WE -- THAT IS ONLY 55% OF THE

NEW TAXABLE VALUE CORRECT? >> SO THE WAY THAT WE STRUCTURED THE AGREEMENT, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE UP TO 55% IN THE -- IN YEAR ONE, OR IT CAPS OUT AT $275,000 USING YEAR ONE AS AN EXAMPLE. SO IN PART IN STRUCTURING THIS INCENTIVE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CAPTURING ALL OF THE LOCAL BENEFIT AND VALUE SO THAT WE KNEW IT WAS A GOOD DEAL FOR US AS A COMMUNITIES BUT WE USE THE THE TOTAL AD VALOREM VALUE AS A BENCHMARK. AND SO YOU'RE CORRECT, IN YEAR 1 THEY COULD RECEIVE THE LOWER OF THE TWO.

SO EITHER 55% OR IT'S CAPPED OUT AT $275,000.

>> I JUST THINK CITIZENS SHOULD NOTE THIS IS A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE THIS LAND IS CURRENTLY AG, THEY'RE PAYING LESS THAN $1,000 A YEAR TAXES ON IT. AND THIS WILL FINALLY GET IT OUT OF AG AND PRODUCE SOME TAXABLE INCOME.

IT DEFINITELY HELPS OUT THE SCHOOL, THIS IS A GOOD DEAL.

>> IN YEAR 8, SO IT'S THE LESSER OF 40% OR 100,000?

>> CORRECT. >> IS THAT CONSTANTS OR FUTURE DOLLARS OR CONSTANT DOLLARS OR --

>> THREE ARE CURRENTS DOLLARS. >> SO DO YOU ESCALATE IT THE

CPI? >> NO, IT'S FIXED.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL, SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IT PASSES 6-0.

TELL YOUR DAUGHTER THANK YOU AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

COUNCILMAN COFFMAN IS LEAVING US FOR THE MOMENT BECAUSE OF HIS PRIORITIES IN LIFE. ANYWAY, 2020-171, REVIEW AND

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>> YES, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AS YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST WELL I GUESS WE STARTED IN JULY, JULY

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SINCE THEN WE'VE MET I THINK SEVEN TIMES AND ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE HAD A CHA CHARRETTE, WEE HAD A PUBLIC OUTREACH AS WELL AS AN OPEN HOUSE. SO WE HAD HERE PROBABLY END OF MARCH, TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH BUT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN STEMMED FROM THE 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

COUNCIL WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FRAMEWORK FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND THIS IS WHAT HAS STEMMED FROM IT. THERE IS NO ACTION TONIGHT.

THIS IS MERELY JUST INFORMATION. WE'LL BRING BACK, BRING IT BACK FOR ACTION HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

THERE HAS BEEN PAST PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THE DOWNTOWNS, VISION MIDLOTHIAN WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT STEMMED THIS DOWNTOWN PLAN IN THE 2009 VISION DOWNTOWN SUMMARY REPORT.

HERE IS ALL THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD, LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MORE MEETINGS THAT I HAD ASSUMED. THOSE ARE ALSO STAFF MEETINGS WITH FREESON NICHOLS WHO IS THE ADVISOR.

THIS IS THE QUICK INPUT IN THERE.

ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS WE HAD IN THIS ROOM.

PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE, 45, 50 PEOPLE HERE, MET VERY FAVORABLY, EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF IS SLETION FREESON NICHOLS. THIS IS THE CHARRETTE, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE DISCOUNTS AND EVERYTHING.

THE OLD DOWNTOWN IS KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, 8TH RIGHT HERE, F RIGHT THROUGH HERE, HERITAGE PARK, CITY HALL, THIS IS THE CORE AREA BUT WE DID STEM OUT FROM THAT AREA.

AND ADDRESS DIFFERENT BE SECTORS SECTORS OFTHE DOWNTOWN.

THERE IS EXISTING CONDITIONS. HOW DO WE FIT INTO THE REGIONAL FRAMEWORK. HOW DO WE FIT INTO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. HOW DO WE GET AROUND THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN OTHROUGHOUT MIDLOTHIAN. ECONOMIC FRAMEWORK, WHAT TYPE OF THINGS ARE EASILY ASSEMBLED TO REDEVELOP ET CETERA, DEVELOPMENT DPRAIM WORK HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

THE DOWNTOWN VISION THAT WAS ARRIVED AT FROM THE ADVISORY TEAM, DOWNTOWN MIDLOTHIAN SAFE, WALKABLE CAN AREA, EMPLOYMENT RESIDENTS AND CULTURE, IT IS ENJOYED BY LOCALS AND VISITORS ALIKE AND FUNCTIONS AS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY.

THAT WAS THE VISION STATEMENT THAT STEMMED ALL THE PLANNING FROM THERE. AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH SOME ILLUSTRATIVE PLANS ON THAT, DIFFERENT STREET SECTIONS AND THEN LAND USE AND CHARACTER PLAN.

THIS IS KIND OF THE LAND JUST AND CHARACTER PLAN.

YOU SEE DOWN HERE HERE IS CITY HALL, HERE IS POSSIBLE FUTURE CIVIC USE ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE HAVE THE CURRENT FIRE STATION WHICH I WOULD ASSUME, DALE WE'RE MONTH AND A HALF OUT OF THERE? I MEAN THIS IS COMING ALONG PRETTY QUICK. BUT IT'S KIND OF A BLUEPRINT HOW WE SEE GROWING IN THE FUTURE WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND THIS IS KIND OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT COMES FROM, THAT CAME FROM SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING RIGHT NOW WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND THEN YOU HAVE AVENUE F, MAKING THAT MORE OF A GREEN STREET DOWN TO KIMMEL PARK. THIS IS KIND OF THE CORE OF THE RETAIL QULAIR DOWN HERE AND THIS IS THE CURRENT CITY HALL, HERITAGE PARK, ET CETERA RIGHT THERE.

SO THIS IS KIND OF NUMBER 5 IS CREATING A NEW CENTRAL SQUARE THAT WILL FUNCTION AS A VIBRANT PUBLIC SPACE AND ORGANIZING ELEMENT FOR THE HARD OF THE DOWNTOWN.

SO REALLY CREATING A SQUARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE STREET SECTIONS THAT WE LAID OUT FOR THE STREET PLAN, ARE LAID OUT FOR DOWNTOWN, MORE WALKABLE, SAFETY, CROSSING THE STREETS SOMETIMES YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR OWN HANDS.

SOME OF THE SMALL THINGS THAT ANGLE THE PARKING AN ADDITIONAL 15° WILL HELP PEOPLE BACK OUT SEE THINGS JUST IN THIS DOWNTOWN AREA AND REALLY AID IN THAT PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT IN THIS AREA. AND THIS IS KIND OF SOME OF THE SAME THINGS. YOU SEE MAIN STREET HERE.

THIS IS KIND OF CARRYING ON THE VISION THAT -- ACCELERATE? ACCELERATE AND 4B STARTED ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF, CARRYING THIS THROUGH OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. THIS IS KIND OF THE GREEN STREET, A WIDER SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE OF AVENUE F AND CONNECTING THAT WITH KIMMEL PARK DOWN THERE AND REALLY CONNECTING A PEDESTRIAN WAY THROUGH THERE. SO THEN WE HAVE THE ACTION PLAN.

YOU HAVE THE ACTION PLAN'S BUILT ENVIRONMENT ACTION, REGULATORY

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SO ALL THOSE ARE PART OF THAT ACTION PLAN.

THIS IS PART OF IT, HERE YOU SAY ENCOURAGE THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE EXISTING CITY HALL TO ENCOURAGE USES FOR DIERNG, NIGHT LIFE. THAT IS THIS CURRENT BUILDING, THERE ARE A LOT OF DOLLARS CONNECTS WEDNESDAY THAT, BUT THAT IS MRS. SEVEN TO TEN YEARS. THERE ARE REALISTIC NUMBERS IN HERE, INCLUDING FOOD TRUCK HOOKUPS, THAT IS A CATALYST PROJECT, RELATIVELY LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE DO PRETTY EASILY.

WE COULD DO IT IN ONE TO THREE YEARS AND THAT COULD BRING SOME VIBRANCY DOWNTOWN AND MAKING ROOM FOR EVENTS WE HAVE AND FUTURE EVENTS AS WELL. THIS IS A SMALL SNIPPET OF THE ACTION PLAN. ALL OF THIS IS IN YOUR AGENDA.

YOU CAN APPROVE OF THAT AS YOU SEAT FIT.

TOP 10 TYPE OF PLANS TO BRING IN HERE.

ONE IS ADOPTION OF THIS DOWNTOWN PLAN.

DEVELOP URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ENHANCE THE LIGHTING, CREATE A TERS ET CETERA. WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND LIKE I SAID HOPEFULLY WE'LL BRING IT BACK AT THE END OF JUNE IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW FOR ACTION.

>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS GOING BACK TO OUT OF ALL THE SESSIONS WE HAD, ONE COULD COMES TO MIND IS FOR INSTANCE AVENUE F. WE HAD GONE THROUGH SOME OPTIONS POTENTIALLY AS YOU SEE ON I GUESS THAT'S ON THE RIGHT THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS, WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY WITH PARALLEL PARKING, TREES HANGING OUT INTO THE STREET, WIDER SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH. AFTER TALKING WITH SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS UP AND DOWN THAT STREET THEY SHOWED CONCERN THAT THEY DIDN'T SHOW AS MUCH INTEREST IN PEOPLE PARALLEL PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME AS WE HAD.

I KNOW A PLOT OF TIMES WHEN WE INTERJECTING WHERE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS INTO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT KIND OF SETS THINGS IN DONE INCONCRETE AND THEN SOMEBOS TO DO A DRIVEWAY CUT IN OR WE'VE GOT PLANS FOR A WIDER SIDEWALK, AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE DECIDED TO DO THAT THEY HAVE GOT DO DO A DIFFERENT PROPORTIONALITY.

AND THEN STREET TREES, IMPLEMENTING THOSE INTO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THIS PERHAPS GOING TO CAUSE ANY RED TAPE OR HOOPS THAT THE CURRENTS PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE DEALING WITH IN THE FUTURE UNBEKNOWNS TO THEM WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT OOF THEIR PROPERTIES OR SPRUZS THEY COULD RUN INTO?

>> ADOPTING THIS PLAN I DON'T FORESEE.

THIS PLAN IS JUST THE FRAMEWORK. IT WILL REQUIRE MORE POLICY ADOPTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO -- AND REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT FLEXIBILITY LIKE YOU SAID. SO ON AVENUE F ON THAT GREEN STREET WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WE COULD ALLOW HEAD-IN PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY, THAT IS WHERE WE COULD INCLUDE A T IFORTFF TO ADD IN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SIDEWALK, THE TREES, THINGS LIKE THAT BUT ALL OF THOSE ARE DECISIONS DOWN THE LINE.

>> EVEN THOUGH IT'S MOVING INTO THE COMP PLAN THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY PLACE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS INTO ANY TYPE OF OBLIGATION OR BINDING SITUATION, AND SECONDLY IF WE DID DECIDE TO MAKE CHANGES WITH PARALLEL PARKING PLANTING TREES THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING FORMAT ON THOSE CHANGES ANYWAY?

>> WE COULD DO -- IF THIS WERE TO BE ADOPTED AS PART OF THE COMP PLAN THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED UPON THE POLICY THAT WE WOULD CHANGE TO ODID THE PARALLEL PARKING AND/OR TREES. WE COULD ASK FOR THAT OR WE

COULD DO THAT KINDS OF LIKE -- >> YOU WOULD ONLY BE REQUIRED IF YOU WERE ACTUALLY CHANGING SOMETHING IN THAT PLAN THE PARALLEL PARKING. THAT WOULDN'T BE CHANGING THE

PLAN. >> THE PLAN IS JUST THE FRAMEWORK. HOW WE DID THE OPEN HOUSE, THAT WASN'T REQUIRED AT ALL. WE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY WITHIN THAT -- LET'S GET BACK TO IT -- WE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY IN HERE AND SENT THEM A PERSONAL PLERT SAYING HEY COME ON DOWN.

THEY CAME ON DOWN AND LOOKED AT EVERYTHING AND WERE VERY PLEASING TO WHAT THEY -- SO WE COULD DO THAT.

>> I'M THINKING THAT MEETING WAS RIGHT IN THE FRONT END OF COVID.

>> IT WAS ON MARCH 12TH. >> MARCH 26TH.

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>> MARCH 12TH. I'M NOT SURE WHEN COVID STARTED

REALLY. >> WE HAD 50 PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM SO NOBODY'S WORRIED ABOUT SOCIAL DISTANCING.

>> WHEN DO YOU PLAN ON COMING BACK DO COUNCIL?

>> LIKE TO COME BACK THE SECOND MEETING IN JUNE I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WHAT WORK DO YOU HAVE TO FINISH BETWEEN NOW AND THEN?

>> REALLY NONE. WE NTED TO TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THEY SAW IT LAST TUESDAY AND THEN BRING IT TO Y'ALL SO YOU HAVE SOME TIME TO DIGEST.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MANY CHANGES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> DO YOU WANT ONE? IN NO.

>> NO. >> DO YOU WANT ONE?

>> I GUESS YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

>> ALL RIGHT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE, MOTION TO

ADJOURN. >> YES.

>> AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7

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