Aug 11, 2020 City Council

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I ALL THE MIDLOTHIAN CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. PASTOR RAY MILLER IS A CHAPLAIN.

PLEASE COME FORWARD FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WILL LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT. IF YOU WILL PUSH YOUR BUTTON THERE.

>> AND SO OFTEN I DON'T DO IT. LET'S PRAY. FATHER, I THANK YOU TONIGHT FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING TO THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. YOU HAVE INVITED US LORD TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU TO SHARE OUR HEARTS AND DESIRES AND WE'RE SO THANKFUL THE ALMIGHTY GOD WHO COULD CREATE A UNIVERSE WITH HIS VOICE THAT EXTENDS IN 90 BILLION LIGHT YEARS ACROSS.

WE'RE THANKFUL THAT AS GREAT AS YOU ARE, WE ARE THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE AND WE ARE THE GOAL OF YOUR GRACE AND COMPASSION. TONIGHT FATHER, I ASK YOU TO ANOINT THE LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I PRAY FATHER AS THE APOSTLE PAUL PRAYED THAT YOU WILL ANOINT THEM WITH SPIRIT AND REVELATION. LORD, AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THAT EFFECT EVERY PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY. I PRAY YOU WILL GIVE THEM DIVINE WISDOM AND WHAT IS NEEDED BEYOND THAT, DIVINE REVELATION THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE WILL BE ACCORDING TO YOUR ORDER.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY GOD NOT ONLY FOR WISDOM BUT I PRAY FOR THE COURAGE TO DO AND ACCOMPLISH WHAT WISDOM SAYS. I PRAY GOD YOU WILL GIVE THEM THE COURAGE OF DAVID AS HE FACED GOLIATH, THE COURAGE OF DANIEL HAS HE FACED THE LIONS DEN AND THE THREE HEBREW CHILDREN THROWN INTO THE FIRE FURNACE, AND I PRAY GOD YOU WILL ANOINT THEM WITH COURAGE AND WISDOM AND THROW THROUGH THEM WITH THE DIVINE AUTHORITY YOU SAID WILL PROTECT US FROM THE POWERS OF THE ENEMY AND PLACE OVER OUR COMMUNITY A DIVINE PROTECTION IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT WE WILL ALWAYS BE A COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE WELCOMED, HONORED AND THAT WE HONOR YOU IN EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU FATHER FOR YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THIS CITY AND OUR LEADERS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AND EVERYBODY SAID, AMEN. THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONEST OUR BE TURNED UP. A SHORT NOTE BEFORE WE START TONIGHT'S SESSION.

A BIG THANKS OUT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OFFICER DARREN BURKEHART WHO MADE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA IN A GOOD WAY CAME TO THE AID OF HIS MOTHER AT THE UPS STORE.

SO THANK YOU OFFICER BURKEHART AND THE MIDLOTHIAN POLICE. OPEN ITEM 2020-72.

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I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF WINDEMERE ESTATES. WHEN OUR UNIT WAS PRETTY MUCH ESTABLISHED, WE WERE PAYING AN ELECTRICITY BILL FOR LIGHTS FOR SAFETY LIGHTS, AND WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE HAD TO PAY FOR THOSE. AND WE GOT A CONTRACT TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS GIVEN BACK TO THE CITY SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

WE PAID ABOUT $6,000 IN THESE BILLS AND WE'RE ASKING IF THE CITY WOULD REIMBURSE OUR

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I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN ON PART OF WINDEMERE ESTATES GIVE A 60 DAY TIME FRAME THAT SOMEONE GETS WITH US AND EXPLAIN TO US WHY WE CANNOT BE REIMBURSED THE $6,000 WE PAID IN FEES FOR ELECTRICITY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO THE CITY. AND THEN THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP IS DEREGULATION. WE ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND IT WAS TOLD THAT WE NEEDED TO COME TALK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THIS. AND IT IS THE OPTION OF BEING ABLE TO PICK OUR OWN ELECTRICITY COMPANY, CABLE COMPANIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TOLD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME CONTRACTS BUT I KNOW WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO DEREGULATION, WE HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY TO FIND OUT ABOUT DEREGULATING SO WE CAN GET OUR OWN -- SLIDE WILL GET TO YOU ON

THAT. >> I SAID WAS I GOING TO CALL THE CHIEF FIRST AND I DIDN'T.

MY APOLOGIES. >> IT'S OKAY, MAYOR. IT'S LIKE BEING AT HOME.

DAYLE MCCASCEL. I AM HERE. WE ARE TIRED AND WORN OUT.

WE ARE CLOSE TO THE GRAND OPENING OF FIRE STATION ONE WILL BE AUGUST 21ST AT 10:00 A.M.

CURRENTLY WORKING WITH LORI LUMBERG TO GO OVER THE PROCESS AND GET THOSE INVITATIONS SENT OUT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THAT AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE AND KEEPING IN MIND SOCIAL DISTANCING. WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT SO MUCH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS PROJECT AREN'T ALLOWED TO COME.

WE WILL WORK ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE TO GET THE INVITATION OUT TO.

OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE INVITED TO BE THERE. WE'RE EXCITED TO OPEN THAT STATION UP. THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS THAT ON THE 19TH YOU WILL START TO SEE SOME TRAILERS WITH EQUIPMENT MOVING DOWN THE HILL ON THE 20TH.

THE MORNING OF THE 20TH, THE STATION WILL BE OCCUPIED BY C-SHIFT AND THROUGHOUT THE DAY WE WILL MOVE EQUIPMENT INTO THE BUILDING BUT THEY WILL BE RESPONDING OUT OF IT ON THE 20TH AND THE 10TH OR 10 O'CLOCK ON THE 21ST, WE WILL HAVE THE CEREMONY TO OPEN IT UP.

WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING AND ASK QUESTIONS. BUT, AND THEN ON THE 22ND, I'M GOING TO VACATION.

CHIEF, THANK YOU. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THIS IS MUCH ANTICIPATED.

>> I HOPE THAT YOU AND THE COMMUNITY AS YOU DRIVE BY THAT ON 287 YOU KNOW SEE THE VISION THAT WE SAW THREE YEARS AGO WHICH WAS TO BUILD A FIRE STATION THAT NOT ONLY IS FUNCTIONAL FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ROOM TO GROW IN THE FUTURE, BUT TO ALSO BE A BUILDING OR A PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN DRIVE BY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY NICE BUILDING. THIS COMMUNITY REALLY HAS SOMETHING GOING ON.

WE'RE PROUD OF THE BUILDING. I KNOW OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT

THE COMMUNITY IS GIVING US. >> WATCHING THE BUILDING GO UP WAS FASCINATING.

WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING YOU NEIGHBORS BY THE WAY. >> I ALMOST HAD TO GET RID OF ONE OF MY FIRE MAN, HE SAID IF THE ROOF COLOR WAS GOING TO CHANGE.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE'RE THERE. >> IT LOOKS GREAT, DAYLE.

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>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> ITEM PASSES 6-0.

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COMPANY SURVEY. TRIP. >> THANK YOU.

ON DECEMBER 12TH, 2017, THE CITY ENTERED INTO A AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

THIS WAS PART OF A THREE YEAR ANNEXATION WE DID ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MIDLOTHIAN.

PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STATES IF DEVELOPMENT DOES OCCUR, TRY TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY AND THEY LOSE THEIR SPECIAL VALUATION, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO COME IN AND STAY THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY PETITION. THE PROPERTY OWNER CAME TO THE CITY AND ASKED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN IN ACCORDANCE WITH 2.72. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR THIS ORDINANCE. THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC

HEARING. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO CLOSE, SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

>> ITEM PASSES 6-0. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

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AND MOCKING BIRD. >> THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MOCKINGBIRD LANE. IT'S A 224 ACRE TRACT OF LAND THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURE TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE 1 ACRE IN SIZE. THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN 2000 FEET OF OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS, IF YOU ARE WITHIN A CERTAIN 2000 FEET OF OUR, WITHIN SEWER, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO CONNECT ON TO THE SEWER OR REQUEST A VARIANCE OR SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO NOT DO THAT.

THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED TO NOT CONNECT ON TO THE SANITARY SEWER BUT HAVE ON SITE SANITARY SERVE FACILITY FOR EACH LOT. THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BROKEN DOWN INTO 129 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND SEVEN COMMON PLACE LOTS ON THE SCREEN WE HAVE TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT OF ME. A PORTION OF PROPERTY, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 185 ACRES OUT OF FLOOD PLAIN. THE DEVELOPMENT YIELDS A DENSITY OF .69 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DOES REQUIRE, IS CALLED OUT FOR COUNTRY MODULE.

WHICH RANGES FROM LOTS BETWEEN ONE TO THREE ACRES. THIS DOES MEET OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE COUNTRY MODULE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CODES. ON NOVEMBER 12, 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED REQUIREMENTS FOR GARAGE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING THAT ADJACENT GARAGES BE PERMITTED AND WOULD COUNT AS A FRONT ENTRY.

THEY WOULD LIKE ADJACENT TO BE TOWARD THE FRONT FACADE. IN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT, WE BROKE DOWN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED AND WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.

AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT REQUIRES ONE UNIT EVER FOUR ACRES AND .69 UNITS PER ACRE.

ONCE AGAIN, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU DOES MEET THE FUTURE LAND USE PLANS. THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO CHANGE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SOME OTHER CHANGES THEY ARE REQUESTING IS THE MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE.

THEY ARE REQUESTING THE MINIMUM HOUSE INSTEAD OF 2400 SQUARE FEET OF AIR CONDITIONED SPACE.

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THERE ARE OTHER AREAS IN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT ARE MEETING SUCH AS SETBACKS.

THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT ALL EVEN THOUGH PRIOR TO NOVEMBER 2019, ADJACENT USED TO BE PERMITTED AS NON-FRONT ENTRY GARAGE. IN NOVEMBER, THEY WOULD BE INCLINED TO THE GARAGE REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE, SO THAT'S WHY THEY ARE REQUESTING ADJACENT TO BE CONSISTENT IN WHAT WAS APPROVED IN NOVEMBER 2019.

ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION .611.4 D.

CUL-DE-SACS ARE ALLOWED TO BE UP TO 600 FEET IN LENGTH. THEY ARE, THEY WILL BE EXCEEDING THIS ON THE SITE PLAN IN TWO DIFFERENT SPOTS. STREET B AND STREET F.

IT'S GOING TO BE 910 FEET AND 993 FEET. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE. TO NOT CONNECT TO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM.

DUE TO THE DENSITY THEY PROPOSING, IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE, TO CONNECT SEWER WITH THAT DENSITY. IN ORDER TO CONNECT TO SEWER, THEY WOULD WANT A MORE DENSE PRODUCT ON THIS PROPERTY. THE CITY HAS EXISTING 18-INCH GRAVITY LINE WITHIN 2000 FEET OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. WALNUT GROVE MIDDLE SCHOOL CONNECT TO THAT.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JULY 21ST. THEY RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. ALL HOMES SHALL CONTAIN SIDE ENTRY GARAGES.

THE WESTERN END OF MAGNOLIA LANE WILL BE BARRICADED AND CONSTRUCTED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE OWNERS AND POTENTIAL PURCHASERS ACKNOWLEDGING THE PLAT OF THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED WITH AN OPERATING UNCONTROLLED PRIVATE AIRPORT. CUL-DE-SACS MAY EXCEED 600 IN LENGTH AND SHALL NOT EXCEED 900 FEET ON STREET F AS SHOWN ON THE IS SITE PLAN. THIS MEETS THE PROPOSED REQUIREMENTS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE DESIGNATED PLAY AREAS OR TRAIL SYSTEMS, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONTAIN A LESS DENSE, LARGER LOT DEVELOPMENT WITH PRESERVATION OF TREES. STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS. WE DID FORWARD LETTERS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IN 200 FEET. FOUR IN OPPOSITION. 0 IN SUPPORT.

WHEN IT WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE DID HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE COME TO THE MEETING AND SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THAT CASE RANGED CONCERN ON MAGGIE LANE.

ALL THE OPPOSITION WE DID RECEIVE IS IN FRONT OF YOU. EACH ONE OF YOU RECEIVED THE OPPOSITION AND VARIOUS FORUMS TO BE HEARD. THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH THOSE ON IN OPPOSITION.

A LOT HAD SUGGESTIONS REGARDING MAGGIE LANE. IF THEY KEEP IT BARRICADED WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. ABOUT OTHER SUGGESTIONS. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS ITEM DOES REQUIRE [INAUDIBLE] AND I STAND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

>> TRENT, WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP. CHARLES RICHARDSON. GIVE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND YOU

HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU. CHARLES RICHARDSON.

1940 GEORGIA WAY. MIDLOTHIAN. I AM JUST HERE TO VOICE MY CONCERNS OF THE MAGGIE LANE CLOSURE. AND I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR BACK THERE. SOUND AS IF IT WOULD BE CLOSED DURING CONSTRUCTION.

AND I WANTED TO VOICE MYSELF AND MY CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AFTER THE PROJECT IS DONE AND IT'S GOING TO REMAIN CLOSED OR BARRICADED FOR EMERGENCY TRAFFIC

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I'M JUST, THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS PATRICK

JOHNSON. >> GOOD EVEN, PATRICK JOHNSON. 5251 MAGGIE LANE IN MIDLOTHIAN.

I WANTED TO SHARE A LETTER SO I DIDN'T GET TO READ THIS AT THE P& Z MEETING.

IT SAYS, WE'RE WRITING TO YOU AS A RESIDENT OF ROSE ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS LETTER IS IN REGARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED TO BE BUILT SURROUNDING OUR CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDRESSING THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE REQUESTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU APPROVE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS IS.

FIRST I'M ASKING YOU TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO CREATE HOME SITES TO MIRROR THE STYLE OF LOTS AND HOMES ALREADY EXISTING IN ROSE ESTATES. WE OBJECT TO CURRENT PROPOSED LOTS. WE HAVE JUST UNDER THREE ACRES OF LAND AND WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE NEW LOT BEHIND OUR HOME TO REFLECT THE LOT LINES SO MULTIPLE HOMES ARE NOT BUILT ON TOP OF OUR BACKYARD. KEEPING WITH THE CURRENT LOT SIZE OF ALREADY-EXISTING HOMES WILL MAINTAIN THE APPEAL OF MIDLOTHIAN WE LOVE SO MUCH. SECOND I'M ASKING YOU FOR YOU TO ALLOW MAGGIE LANE TO REMAIN A CLOSED STREET. I OBJECT TO OPENING UP MAGGIE LANE TO A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A QUIET SECLUDED NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE CHOSE TO BUILD OUR HOME IN THIS AREA FOR THE SAFETY AND IT ALLOWS OUR CHILDREN TO PLAY AMONG OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDS AND THE LOW TRAFFIC STREETS. BOTH OF THESE THINGS ADD TO THE PEACEFUL SURROUNDINGS OF BEING OUR HOME TOWN. ALLOWING MAGGIE LANE TO BECOME AN OPEN STREET WILL CREATE A HUGE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC TAKING AWAY THE SAFE AREA OF OUR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS. LAST I ACCOUNT TO THE USE OF MAGGIE LANE AS CONSTRUCTION PATH WAY FOR THE PROPOSED NEW NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE USE OF OUR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STREET FOR THIS TYPE OF TRAFFIC WILL CAUSE DAMAGE TO OUR STREET AND MASK DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. SO.

I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AN IDEA. THIS IS A PICTURE THAT I TRIED TO E-MAIL THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD JUST SHOW YOU. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE. SCOTT LOPPER.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JEFF MOORE. 2730 MALCONWAY, MIDLOTHIAN.

SCOTT AND I ARE BOTH ON THE EAGLE'S NEST PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. ON OUR FORM WE PUT NEITHER OPPOSED OR IN FAVOR.

MAINLY WE'RE IN FAVOR OF DEED RESTRICTIONS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH FAA AND TXDOT REQUIREMENTS FOR A PUBLIC USE AIR FIELD. LIKE EAGLE'S NEST. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS OF CONCERN AND THEN ONE REQUEST. DID EVERYONE GET A COPY OF OUR LETTER? SECRETARY HANDED OUT. SO THE FIRST ITEM OF CONCERN IS IF YOU LOOK AT LOTS 11 AND 12, IT'S THE TWO RED SQUARES AT THE TOP RIGHT CORNER. THOSE ARE IN THE LOCATION OF AN EXISTING DRAINAGE DITCH AND ACCORDING TO THE PLAT, THEY HAVE THE HOMES AS FAR AWAYS FROM STREET D AS POSSIBLE WHICH PUTS IT RIGHT UP AGAINST OUR PROPERTY LINE.

25 FEET AWAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY GUIDELINES. HOWEVER IT IS AN OPERATING AIRPORT THAT'S GOING TO PUT AIRPLANES, THEY DO THEIR RUN UP AT TO LOCATION PRIOR TO TAKING OFF WHICH CREATES A FAIR AMOUNT OF NOISE AND YOU WILL BE 25 FEET FROM SOMEONE'S BACK DOOR.

OUR REQUEST IS THAT BE MOVED CLOSER TO THE STREET LIKE ALL THE OTHER LOTS.

YOU CAN LOOK AT 13, 14, 15, 16. THEY ARE LOCATED CLOSER TO THE STREET.

THAT WILL GIVE MORE OF A BUFFER TO THE NOISE SOURCE. THE SECOND ITEM --

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE TWO HOMES RIGHT HERE. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT 13, 14, 15, YOU CAN SEE THEM IN PAGE 2 OF MY LETTER. THEY ARE LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE STREET. SO, AND IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXISTING DRAINAGE DITCH THERE.

THIS IS THE END OF RUN WAY RIGHT UP AGAINST THIS FENCE RIGHT HERE.

STREET. THIS IS THE TAXI WAY AND THIS IS THE RUN WAY.

IT WILL BE 25 FEET FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE TO SOMEBODY'S BACK DOOR.

FROM THE TAXI WAY. YEAH. AND NOT TO MENTION, OF COURSE, AIRCRAFT TAKING OFF. NOW WE'RE PLEASED TO SEE THEY INCORPORATED THE SAME 400 FOOT EASEMENT THAT IS EXISTING IN ROSE ESTATES HERE THAT PROVIDES A SAFETY ZONE FOR DEPARTING AIRCRAFT, BOTH DEPARTING AND LANDING. WE ARE PLEASED TO SEE THAT.

WE WERE REVIEWED BY TXDOT BACK IN 2016 AND ABOUT THE BASICALLY AS WE SINCE WE'RE A PUBLIC AIR FIELD AND IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE THREE, YOU WILL SEE A DIAGRAM THAT GIVES REQUIRED SLOPE APPROACH SLOPE AND CLEAR ZONE REQUIREMENTS OF ABOUT ANY PUBLIC USE AIR FIELD.

SO I'M PLEASED TO SAY THIS SATISFYING THE LATERAL REQUIREMENTS, THE CONE- LOOKING FIGURE. AS FAR AS THE APPROACH PATH, IT DEPENDS ON THE ELEVATION THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL PUT THIS AT. AS LONG AS THEY DON'T BUILD UP STREET D HIGHER THAN OUR DISPLAYED THRESHOLD, 756 FEET, IT'S ALSO APPROXIMATELY THE ELEVATION AT THE FENCE LINE TO ROSE ESTATES. AS LONG AS THEY DON'T BUILD HIGHER, WE SATISFY THE FAA.

WE ASK THAT BE PUT INTO THE DEED RESTRICTION AS WELL. THEN THE FINAL ITEM IS, IT HAS TO DO WITH COMPLIANCE WITH FAA REQUIREMENTS THAT ANY STRUCTURE THAT IS IN IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 4 THERE, ANY STRUCTURE THAT'S WITHIN 20,000 FEET RADIUS. FROM THE END OF THE RUN WAY REQUIRES PAPER, AC-7460-2 K CALLED PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OR ALTERATION OF OBJECTS THAT MAY AFFECT AIR SPACE. THERE'S A 100 TO ONE SLOPE RULE REQUIREMENT.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL BUT PAPERWORK THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO FILL OUT.

OUR FINAL REQUEST IS THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS OF COURSE, SHOWING UP ON THE PLAT LIK THEY ARE ALREADY AND THAT EVERYONE HOME IN THE COMMUNITY ACKNOWLEDGES THE PRESENCE OF THAT AIRPORT.

SO THERE'S NO SURPRISES LATER. THEY BOUGHT A HOUSE AND SAY, HEY, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS AN AIRPORT THERE. THEY DID THE SAME THING IN MCKINNEY WITH AN AIRPORT CALL AEROCOUNTRY. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME THING HERE.

IT WILL SAVE US HEADACHES AND THE CITY COUNCIL HEADACHES PEOPLE CLAIMING IT WASN'T THERE.

>> SCOTT DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT? >> SOMETIMES WE MAKE A LOT OF

NOISE. >> CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH AIR TRAFFIC.

HOW MUCH AIR TRAFFIC YOU GET OUT THERE? HOW MANY TAKE OFFS AND LANDINGS?

>> IT'S CERTAINLY NOT LIKE LOVE FIELD. THERE ARE TWIN JET ENGINE AIRCRAFT. PROBABLY 10 TO 15 DEPARTURES AND ARRIVALS.

NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, BUT AGAIN, IN MOST OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS SHALLOW MANNER TO THE NORTH. WE HAVEN'T HAD COMPLAINTS. MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS WE GET ALONE WITH FINE. WE JUST WANT TO LAY THE GROUND WORK WITH THE NEW DEVELOPER.

RUN WAY.

CLEARANCE ZONE AT THE END OF THE RUN WAY. THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT IS NOT SHOWN ON THE PLAT OR EVEN THE DRAINAGE SURVEY IS WHAT THE ELEVATION GOING TO BE OF THE STREET. AS LONG AS THEY DON'T BUILD IT UP HIGHER THAN THE HIGHEST POINT ON THE CURRENT PROPERTY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY. 756 FEET ELEVATION.

>> WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF YOUR RUN WAY? >> 3216.

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>> WHERE TENDS TO BE YOUR TOUCHDOWN POINT? >> WE HAVE A DISPLACED THRESHOLD, 350 FEET FROM THE FENCE LINE HERE. THAT'S ALLOWS FOR EXTRA CLEARANCE. AND SO CURRENTLY, THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WE ALSO HAVE THE EASEMENT IN ROSE ESTATES. IF THERE'S STRUCTURES OR TREES

THAT WILL VIOLATE THE 20-1 RULE. >> AND YOU'RE PURELY -- >> YES, SIR.

HOW MANY HOURS A DAY CAN YOU OPERATE? >> WE ARE LIT AIR FIELD.

24-7. THANK YOU. WE REALLY ENJOY IT.

I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. BUT I HAVE NEVER FLOWN INTO IT. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> ALL GOVERNMENT REGULATED. >> YEAH. WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ANYWAY.

IT'S ALL FFA AND TXDOT APPROVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO, I KNOW THE DEVELOPER KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT. HE'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO CAUSE GRIEF.

IT'S JUST LIKE SOMEBODY WHO BUYS A HOUSE NEXT TO 7-ELEVEN. YOU KNOW THEY ARE THERE.

YOU'RE STUFF IS ALREADY THERE. >> CHRIS, NOT NOT DISSIMILAR TO WHAT THE QUARRIES HAVE ASKED FOR

HOMES. >> YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT.

IF YOU LOOK UNDER ITEM I UNDER THE ORDINANCE, THERE IS A NOTICE THAT IS WRITTEN IN THERE THAT WOULD BE PUT ON EVERY PLAT OF THIS PROPERTY. SO THERE IS A NOTICE THAT SAYS, THAT STATING THAT THE PROPERTY SHOWN ON THIS PLAT ADJOINS OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY WITH AN OPERATING UNCONTROLLED PRIVATE AIRPORT. THERE'S NOTICE ON THE PLAT THAT HAS TO BE DONE ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE.

. >> IT'S EASILY CHANGED. INSTEAD OF PRIVATE USE WE SAY

PUBLIC USE. >> ANYBODY IS FREE TO FLY IN THERE AND LAND?

>> OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. NO TOUCH AND GO.

DO YOU HAVE A PATTERN? >> OR IS THIS RADIUS. THE NO TOUCH AND GO RULE IS TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE TRAINING COMING IN CONTINUOUSLY. IT'S WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL.

MIDWAY, THEY CAN GO DOWN THERE AND PRACTICE ALL THEY WANT. >> MIDWAY IS UNCONTROLLED ALSO.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE SHARE THE SAME RADIO FREQUENCY.

WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

>> MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PREVIOUS AND JUST MAKE FOR CLARIFICATION.

THAT MAGGIE LANE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST THE ROADS, WATER, SEWAGE AND DRAINAGE.

MAGGIE LANE WOULD BE OPENED SO HOME CONSTRUCTION WOULD GO FREE. I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS ABOUT THE BARRICADING OF MAGGIE LANE. SO WHEN THEY SAY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT -- PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS JUST, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC STUFF. THE ROADS, WATER, SEWER.

DRAINAGE. THEN IT WOULD BE OPEN. YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF HOME BUILDER CONSTRUCTION GOING DOWN THIS ROADWAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS

CLEAR. >> AREN'T THEY GOING TO HAVE TWO, WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO START IS MY QUESTION? I'M ASSUMING OUT.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> SO THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE ROAD TO THE NORTH AND

SOUTH OR THEY FIXING TO TELL US? >> IS THAT ALL THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS OR DO WE HAVE OTHERS? IF THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE

PUBLIC HEARING. >> OKAY, FINE. >> MOTION TO

HEARING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECONDED PLEASE VOTE. PUBLIC PORTION IS CLOSED AND YOU ARE THE -- APPLICANT.

>> YES. MY NAME IS MICHAEL WEST BALM, I WROTE DOWN NOTES.

THE LAST ONE THAT WAS JUST BEING DISCUSSED WAS THE MAGGIE LANE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS.

THE DISCUSSION AND AGREEMENT THAT WE CAME UPON AT P & Z WOULD BE CLOSED OFF FOR CONSTRUCTION WITH THE CONCRETE TRUCKS. THAT WAS THE CONCERN THAT WAS STATED.

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IT WAS NOT DISCUSSED ABOUT INDIVIDUAL HOME. THERE MIGHT BE A GUY WITH A PICKUP TRUCK. THAT ROAD WOULD BE BARRICADED OFF DURING THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR WATER, ROAD AND UTILITIES. WE TALKED ABOUT THE AIRPORT REGULATIONS. WE AGREED TO FOLLOW ALL FAA REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES. WE HAVE THE EASEMENTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOUSES CLOSE TO THE RUN WAYS. THERE'S NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND HOMES IN THAT SUBDIVISION NORTH OF US ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE RUN UP AREA AND THEN WE AGREED TO PUT SOME NOTES IN THE PLAT THAT REITERATES THERE'S AN AIRPORT HERE IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT. WE AGREED THEY NEED TO KNOW THERE'S AN AIRPORT AND THEY WILL. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONNECTION AT MAGGIE LANE.

THE GENERAL CONNECTION. THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT DID NOT WANT THAT.

AND THE REASON IT IS THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

THAT ROAD WAS STUBBED OUT WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT WITH THE EXTENSION TO BE CONTINUED ON. WE WERE REQUIRED BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO CONNECT TO IT.

WE EVEN HAD TO STUB IT OUT TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY BECAUSE IT MEETS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO CONTINUE ON IN THE FUTURE. LET'S SEE.

THE J SWINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND AGREED WE WERE NOT GOING TO ASK FOR THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. SO WE'RE GETTING RID OF ALL FRONT ENTRY AND J-ENTRY. IT'S GOING TO BE SIDE OR REAR. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE P AND Z, WE AGREE TO AND MADE THE CHANGES. IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS,

WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THOSE. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FROM STAFF RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE ONE POINT. THE TWIN ENGINE PROP PLANES CAN BE AWFUL NOISY ON RUN UP ESPECIALLY. PERSONALLY, I THINK THE HOUSES WOULD BE TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT.

BUT THAT'S JUST -- I MEAN THOSE TWIN ENGINES. >> SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUY

HOUSE THERE? >> NO. >> THERE IS A HOUSE ON LOT 24 RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF IT AND THERE IS A HOUSE ON THE LOT TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF IT ALREADY THAT LIVE THERE. SO THEY'RE NOT COMPLAINING OR SAYING ANYTHING.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I AGREE. IT'S CLOSE.

I DON'T OWN AN AIRPLANE. WE HAD DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE MEETING ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, COULD THOSE HOUSES GET ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT? THOSE ARE ON GOING AND THERE WILL BE MORE DISCUSSIONS ON IT. WE AGREE THAT DEFINITELY YOU NEED TO KNOW THERE'S AN AIRPORT

THERE. >> WHY WOULDN'T YOU TAKE ON THOSE PARTICULAR LOTS AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITHIN QUARRY THAT ARE ABUTTING THE LOTS QUARRY AND OTHER PROJECTS? YOU CAN TAKE THOSE PARTICULAR LOTS AND HAVE ADD AN ADDENDUM TO THE TITLE WORK.

I CAN JUST IMAGINE THAT FOLKS CONVINCE THEMSELVES IT WON'T BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL UNTIL TWIN PROP IS COMING THROUGH THERE AT 3:00 A.M. AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE BABY IN THE BACK ROOM AND THAT HAPPENS TWO OR THREE WEEKS IN A ROW. MY WIFE IS NOT GOING TO LIKE THAT. WE CONVINCED OURSELVES WE JUST HAD TO HAVE THE HOME BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED, I HAVE TO RESPECT THAT THE AIRPORT WAS THERE FIRST AND I HAVE FOUND IN PAST EXPERIENCE FOLKS ARE ALWAYS VERY RESPECTFUL OF AIRPORTS AND INDUSTRY UNTIL THEY HAVE TO LIVE AMONGST IT FOR ABOUT EXACTLY 30 DAYS AND THEY START COMPLAINING. ALL THE TIME TO US.

SO, AND I HAVE ALSO BEEN ARK MAZED BECAUSE I'M IN THE BUSINESS THAT DEALS WITH DEED RESTR RESTRICTIONS, THESE FOLKS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS SAY. I AM ONE OF THOSE, HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT BIG PROBLEM WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE QUARRIES TO WHERE ANYBODY THAT WILL BE AFFECTED IN THE UPPER WARD NORTHEAST QUADRANT REGION OF THE SUBDIVISION, THEY NEED TO MAKE IT AWARE THAT YEAH, WE KNOW WE'RE BUILDING A 24-HOUR A DAY PUBLIC AIRPORT.

WE HAVE ZERO PROBLEMS AND WE LOVE LOOKING AT AIRPLANES AT 3:00 A.M. IN THE MORNING.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE AIRPORT HAVING PROBLEMS. >> I WAS GOING TO TAG ON TO THAT

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WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT, WE PUT IN THERE THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THIS LETTER.

DEAR DEVELOPER, I'M SURE YOU'RE SELLING THESE LETS TO BUILDERS. IF THAT LETTER IS GOING TO THAT BUILDER, IT'S NOT GOING TO THE NEXT PERSON. I MEAN YOU CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE IT STRING OUT. I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THE LETTERS.

IT'S KIND OF POINTLESS IF THE BUILDER RECEIVES THAT LETTER. >> DO Y'ALL REMEMBER, HOW DID WE

DO THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OUT HERE BY PADERA LANE? >> TRENT, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST

A PLAT NOTICE. >> WE DID SOMETHING TO DESIGNATE TO WHERE IT FOLLOWED IT.

WE ACTUALLY USED THE SAME PROCESS IN THIS AS WE DID WITH THE --

>> SO IT IS THE SAME PROCESS. >> YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE VERBIAGE.

>> OKAY. I THINK -- >> LAS COLINAS BUILT NEXT TO DFW AIRPORT AFTER IT HAD BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THEY TURNED AROUND AND SUED THE AIRPORT. SO. GRAPEVINE BUILT A SCHOOL.

DIDN'T HAPPEN BUT -- >> I THINK LAS COLINAS HAD SUCCESS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FULL STORE. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. MAGGIE LANE IS STUBBED OUT AND

THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS FOR A THOROUGHFARE. >> AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE HOME STYLES, IS IT SIMILAR TO WHAT IS ESTABLISHED THERE IN ROSE ESTATES?

MAGGIE AND GEORGIA WAY? >> THAT'S CORRECT. MOST OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ABOUT ONE ACRE. THERE ARE LARGER ONES THERE, I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMEN THAT SPOKE OWNS ONE OF THEM WITHIN 400 FOOT EASEMENT. IT'S LIKE THREE ACRES I THINK ROUGHLY. AND WE MATCHED AND OUR DEVELOPMENT THE SAME EASEMENT AND LARGER LOTS. AND THEN THE REST OF LOTS ARE ABOUT AN ACRE WHICH MATCHES WHAT THEY ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AFTER MUCH PERSECUTION, MY FAVORITE TOPICS, TREES

>> ARE YOU CLEAR CUTTING OR ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP NATURAL TREES THERE FOR

SCREENAGE IN THE BACKS OF LOTS? >> THAT DID COME UP IN P&Z. PRIMARILY BY THE LAKE AND CREEKS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALLOWED TO REMOVE THEM UTILITIES TO MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS FOR DRAINAGE. THERE WAS NO PLAN TO GO THROUGH THE CREEKS AND CLEAR CUT EVERYWHERE. THERE WILL BE SOME TREES REMOVED

TO MATCH THE GRADING REQUIREMENTS OF THE LOT. >> I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID. DID YOU SAY YOU PUT YOUR BIGGER LOTS UP AGAINST THESE LOTS TO

MATCH THEIR SIZE? >> SO THESE LOTS HERE ON THE TOP, THIS IS THE EASEMENT FROM HERE TO HERE. THESE LOT LINES GO TO THE CENTER.

THESE LOTS, THIS ONE HERE AND THIS ONE HERE HAVE A MUCH LARGER THAN AN ACRE.

TWO TO THREE ACRES. AND THESE DOWN HERE, THIS IS ALSO LARGER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME EASEMENT. SO, THEY WERE THE SAME IN THE AREA.

>> I SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, CLARK. I THOUGHT THEY WERE FOUR LOTS THERE THAT WERE NOT GOING TO BE USED. BUT THEY ARE OWNED.

>> IT'S CONFUSING. >> THE EASEMENT LINE SCREW IT UP.

IT'S BLACK AND WHITE. THAT'S WHAT MESSES IT UP. WE ALREADY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE 756 FOOT ELEVATION. I'M ASSUMING OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL INTEND TO STAY WITHIN THOSE --

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVEN'T DONE A FULL GRADING PLAN, BUT WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF ASKING FOR VARIANCES FOR FAA REQUIREMENTS. WHEN WE GET INTO THE DESIGN, WE

WILL ADHERE TO THE REQUIREMENTS. >> THE ONE LAST QUESTION AND THEN I WILL ASK THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AS WE'RE SITTING HERE TOGETHER WITH THE APPLICANT IN FRONT OF US.

WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT MAGGIE LANE? AND OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT HEAVY TRUCKS GOING DOWN THAT ROAD. BUT AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY AND THAT'S POSSIBLY WITHIN THE HOURS OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC, BE EARLY IN THE MORNING WHEN PARENTS ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR FAMILIES AND KIDS OUT ON THE ROAD TO GO TO SCHOOL AND WHAT NOT, THAT, ALL THAT TRAFFIC FLOWING IN THERE AND PICKUP TRUCKS AND LIGHTER CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC OR PERHAPS LET'S EVEN SAY ONE TON FLAT BED TRUCKS DELIVERING BATHTUBS AND LIGHT TRAFFIC. DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER THIS? OR ARE WE GOING TO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MAGGIE LANE IS BARRICADED ON THE END. DO WE ALLOW MAGGIE LANE TO BE

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>> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SEE IT REMAIN CLOSED UNTIL THE GRAND OPENING IS OPEN AND WE CUT THE RIBBON AND YOU OPEN UP MAGGIE LANE.

>> HOW MANY HOUSES IS THAT? >> THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. THERE'S NO REAL GRAND OPENING.

IT'S OPEN AS SOON AS THE FIRST HOUSE SELLS. >> WE COULD DESIGNATE THAT DOWN WHERE THEY HIT THE PLATEAUS OF WHAT IS BUILT. I WOULDN'T GO AS FAR TO SAY YOU BUILD THE LAST SLOT. YOU OBVIOUSLY WILL PROBABLY GET INTO THREE PHASES OR THREE Q QUADRANTS OF LOT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PHRASE THAT. AS WE HAVE DONE AT LAPAZ AND THE OTHERS, WE DIVIDE THIS UP INTO LEVELS OF BUILD OUT TO REACH CERTAIN PLATEAUS, CORRECT?

>> THIS COULD BE CONNECTED IN AND THE BARRICADE COULD BE PULLED DOWN ONCE THEY HIT 75%

BUILD OUT AND HAVING IT OPEN FROM DAY ONE. >> DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE

AREA UNDER THE MAGGIE LANE? >> DURING CONSTRUCTION, THERE WILL BE ON MOCKINGBIRD.

AND I IMAGINE THAT MOST OF THE EVEN THE LIGHTER CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WILL PROBABLY UTILIZE

THOSE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING FROM EAST TO WEST. >> IF YOU COULD SEE WAYNE, MAGGIE LANE IS HUNDREDS OF FEET BELOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WOULD TRAVEL IT. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY OWNERS -- IF THAT WAS WAY DOWN TOWARD THE BEND LIKE GAVE Y'ALL A LOT DIFFERENT ACCESS POINT, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT.

BUT IT'S RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT ACCESS POINT. I DON'T SEE THE BIG GAIN.

>> UNLESS YOU BUILD HOUSE 1, 2, NINE, 38 OR 32. THEN YOU WANT IT OPEN BECAUSE YOU WILL BE RIGHT THERE. IF ONE HOUSE GETS BUILT FIRST. YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S MAGGIE. THERE'S WHERE THE BARRICADES ARE.

SO IF YOU BUILD HOUSE ONE. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH HALF OF GEORGIA TO GET THERE.

>> YEAH.

ALL OF YOUR WHOLE SUBDIVISION, YOU HAVE 20 HOMES. I'M JUST SAYING.

WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WHEN PEOPLE BUY HOMES NEAR A BARRICADED STREET.

THAT'S NOT OUR FAULT, NOT YOU, THIS PERSON BOUGHT A HOME ON THE END OF A STREET THAT WAS GOING TO BE ALWAYS GOING TO BE A STREET. YOU KNOW, WE RAN INTO PROBLEM OVER HERE ON AUTUMN RUN AND OVER BY MY HOUSE. IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A THOROUGHFARE STREET. IT'S ON THE MAP. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH. IT'S NOT WHERE IT WAS A CUL-DE-SAC AND CUT A NEW ROAD.

YES , I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR YOU. YOU WILL HAVE HOW MANY LOTS? 129.

YOU WILL HAVE 129 NEW NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. >> I'M JUST SAYING --

>> WE HEARD PEOPLE WOULD AGREE AT LEAST ONE. >> YEAH BUT THAT'S NOT THE

ARGUMENT HERE. >> WHERE DO YOU DRAW THAT NUMBER AT?

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO DRAW THE NUMBER. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SENDING FOLKS TO THE NORTH TO AVOID AFFECTING AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE CONSTRUCTION?

>> I AGREE TO TED'S POINT, WHY NOT DO SOMETHING IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DELAY THE TRAFFIC?

AND SLOW IT DOWN FOR A WHILE. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M STATING, I'M ASKING STAFF.

I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR, YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE, WE DON'T WANT TO UNBARRICADE THAT.

AND THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AFTER THE FIRST. SOMEBODY BUYS THAT LOT.

WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD? IS IT 60%, 70% BUILD OUT TO GIVE THEM BREATHING ROOM FOR A FEW

YEARS. >> BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE A PHASING PLAN OR IS IT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AT ONE TIME?

>> IT'S ALL DEVELOPED AS PHASE ONE. AS THE ROAD GETS ACCEPTED AS A

PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT WOULD BE CLOSED UNTIL THAT POINT. >> ALL THE STREETS GET BUILT, THE GRADING IS DONE AND ONCE THE MUNICIPALITY ACCEPTS ROADWAY AS THEIR MAINTENANCE, THAT'S WHEN

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IT USUALLY OPENS UP. >> THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL MENTION FROM DOING WORK ON THESE ROADS FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER, EVEN THOUGH IF WE WERE TO TALK TO ENGINEERING, THIS ROAD WAS MORE THAN LIKELY SPEC 'ED, IT WAS CONCRETE DONE ON COUNTY DIRECTION.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF INSPECTORS TO KEEP A TRUE HANDLE.

I'M NOT TALKING THOSE FOLKS DOWN. THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THESE ROADS WILL NOT TAKE THE ABUSE OUR CURRENT INSPECTED ROADS.

IT'S A GOOD ROAD BUT NOT LIKE THE ROADS WE HAVE. >> ALL I'M GOING TO SAY IS, THEY DON'T WANT TO BRING THEIR CONCRETE GUYS BACK OUT. THAT WILL BE A CITY ROAD.

HOW YOU SHUT IT DOWN AND WHAT KIND OF TEMPORARY BARRIERS. HOW DO WE DO THIS?

>> LAPAZ WAS NEVER BUILT, WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING -- >> I'M JUST GIVING A DIFFERENT APPROACH FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE WHAT WAS THE THRESHOLD OF BUILD OUT THAT COULD BE APPLIED TO THE

SAME WAY OF WHEN THAT TIE IN WOULD HAPPEN. >> THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO TIE THE ROAD IN. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST REMOVE THE BARRICADE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TIE IN AND YOU'RE ASKING THE 50%. I'M SAYING I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. DO YOU HIT 75% BUILD OUT AND THE BARRICADE IS LIFTED AND THE

TRAFFIC WOULD START TAKING PLACE? >> UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME OTHER THING. COUNCIL COULD SET THIS LIMIT. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO --

>> I'M NOT ASKING YOU GUYS TO TRACK IT AND COUNT LOTS. OBVIOUSLY BE ABLE TO LOOK.

>> WE WOULD HAVE TO. IF YOU SET WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE IS, WE WILL HAVE TO LET HIM TIE IN. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE BARRICADES ARE THERE.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO REMOVE TO CONNECT AND PUT THEM RIGHT BACK AND WHATEVER NUMBER Y'ALL SET, WE WOULD HAVE TO TRACK THAT AND WHEN THAT BUILDING PERMIT WAS PULLED, WE HAVE TO YANK THE BARRICADES UP. WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT'S INSURMOUNTABLE, WE JUST TRACK IT. THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO.

>> COMING OFF WALNUT GROVE ALL THE WAY DOWN. I CAN SEE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE STREETS CLOSED ANYWAY BEFORE YOU BUILD ANYTHING ELSE. YOU BUILD THE STREETS.

YOU GET THE EQUIPMENT IN. NO. NO, WE AGREED FROM P&Z THAT IT WAS NOT A GOOD STREET FOR CONSTRUCTION, BIG TRUCKS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR THE STREETS OR UTILITIES. >> THAT WOULD BE COMING OUT ON TO MOCKINGBIRD. HERE'S YOUR FIRST ROAD USE IS GOING TO BE BY HEAVY TRUCKS.

CONCRETE TRUCKS. WHEN THAT'S DONE, ALL THE REST OF CONSTRUCTION, THE WALL BOARD VAN, I WOULD GO CARPET PEOPLE, CABINET PEOPLE. WHAT ABOUT THEM?

>> THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WROTE. ALL THOSE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE COULD, WOULD GO DOWN MAGGIE

LANE. >> THEY WOULD TAKE THE QUICKEST PATH.

IF THEY COME FROM THE CITY, THEY GO FROM THE MAIN ONE THEY'RE BUILDING.

I'M ONLY STATING THE CONCERN OF THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS. IT WILL BE THERE REGULAR RESIDENTS THAT NOT ABOVE AND BEYOND TRAFFIC FIVE OR SIX TRUCKS WORKING ON ONE HOUSE.

THAT'S THE POINT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE. >> I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS OTHER THAN A ROAD IF Y'ALL WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE. IN HERE, I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO SEE. ON THE SEWER SIDE, IT SAYS WITHIN THE 2000 FEET, AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT A SEPTIC LEVER FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT ON A ONE ACRE LOT. >> I'M CURIOUS WHY THAT NOTE IS

THERE. >> WITH VARIANCE, WE WANT PEOPLE TO CONNECT ON.

SINCE PLANNING COMMISSION, ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS, WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE

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STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS VARIANCE FROM NOT CONNECTING ON TO CITY SEWER.

>> EXEMPT THE BOTTOM SAYS DOES NOT SUPPORT. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CCM.

WHY WOULD WE TRADE THE CCM FULLY OVER? WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO SERVE

THIS SUBDIVISION? >> IF YOU RECALL A FEW MEETINGS BACK, WE BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL THE REQUEST OR AT LEAST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON DOING THE CCEXCHANGE.

THIS IS AN AREA THE CITY WOULD EXCHANGE TO SARTIS FOR MORE DENSE PROPERTIES ZONED IN SARTIS CCN. WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION TO PROCEED.

WE SHOULD BE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL TO DO THE SWITCH. THAT'S THE LIMITS OF OUR BOUNDARY. THE ONE ACRE. SARTIS IS BETTER SUITED TO SERVE AND WE HAVE THE HIGHER DENSITY MORE CENTRAL TO THE CITY. I SAW THAT AND WANTED

CLARIFICATION. >> WHERE ARE YOU SEEING THAT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT CORRECT. ON THE WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SERVICES LAST PARAGRAPH.

DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM. EXCEPT FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF, OH -- WELL, I GUESS NOW I MADE A

MISTAKE. >> IN MY DEFENSE, I READ THIS LATE AT NIGHT AND MADE A NOTE.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN THIS UP. >> AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, WAS FOR GREEN SPACE. ON OUR NORMAL DEVELOPMENTS, I KNOW THIS IS A PD.

I'M JUST CURIOUS. ON OUR NORMAL DEVELOPMENTS WE REQUIRE A PARK OR GREEN SPACE.

>> GENERALLY IT'S IN OPEN SPACE. >> OUR FENCING RULES SAY IF IT BACKS UP TO AN OPEN AREA, IT HAS TO HAVE A WROUGHT IRON FENCE. AND I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE OVER WHERE THE POND AND THE FLOOD PLAIN IS, YOU KNOW, WITH REFERENCE LAWSON FARMS WITH THAT BEING OVER GROWN.

WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTAINING THAT AREA WILL BE THE CITY?

THE HOA? >> IS IT GOING TO BE THE HOA? >> REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF OPEN SPACE THAT IS. AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, YOU MIGHT HAVE WALKED OUT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THING THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO. THAT WOULD FALL UPON THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON IT.

WHEN THEY DO THE PLAT, IT GOES INTO THIS AREA. THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

I HAVE ALL MY QUESTIONS. . >> WHAT IS THE FENCING OR SCREENING PLAN? YOU MAY HAVE GONE OVER THAT ON THE AIRPORT SIDE?

IS THAT WROUGHT IRON OR BRICK WALL? >> ON THE AIRPORT SIDE, IT'S GOING, THE REGULATIONS HAVE TO MEET ALL FAA REGULATIONS AND THE CITY WOULD NEVER SUPERCEDE THE REGULATIONS. IT'S WOODEN FENCE AND A SIX FOOT HIGH SCREEN WALL ORNAMENTAL IRON WITH VEGETATIVE SCREEN ON MOCKINGBIRD LANE AND A SIX FOOT SCREEN ON RETENTION PONDS AND

OPEN SPACES. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MAGGIE LANE.

IS THAT STUBBED OUT FOR ANOTHER POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR IS THAT --

>> CUL-DE-SAC? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHICH ON THE OPPOSITE.

>> THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT CAME UP IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND IN GENERAL WOULD BE ANY KIND OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN. BUT IT'S ON THE FUTURE

THOROUGHFARE PLAN. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S SUBBED OUT.

AND THE THOROUGHFARE CARRIES UP TO WALNUT DROVE. IS THAT A MAJOR COLLECTOR?

>> IT'S A MINOR COLLECTOR. >> SO ONCE AGAIN, WE GENERALLY DO THAT DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN.

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>> IF THAT GETS PUNCHED THROUGH, THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC PEOPLE ARE ARGUING OVER.

Y'ALL CAN EDUCATE ME. WHY WOULD PEOPLE WANT TO USE MAGGIE LANE?

AND WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO USE IT? >> IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY COME FROM. MOST OF THE TRAFFIC FROM MOCKINGBIRD PLANE FROM WALNUT

GROVE. HERE'S WHERE THE SCHOOL IS. >> WOULDN'T THEY GO WALNUT GROVE? ON MOCKINGBIRD LANE AND PEOPLE USING THIS TO TAKE KIDS TO SCHOOL. AND BE GENERALLY CONDEMN THIS AREA.

>> SO DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INCLUDING YOUR LIGHT PICKUP TRUCKS, BARRING CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS FROM MAGGIE LANE? IS THAT AN ISSUE FOR THE

DEVELOPER? >> THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT MAY HELP A LITTLE. >> WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IS MUCH EASIER TO REGULATE AND MAINTAIN THOSE GUYS. ONCE YOU GET INTO THE TRADES,

IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT DO

YOU MEAN, WHAT IS GOING TO BE HARD TO REGULATE? >> PICKUP TRUCKS.

IF IT'S BARRICADED, ONCE YOU TAKE THE BARRICADE DOWN. IT'S ZERO PROBLEM TO REGULATE IF

IT'S BARRICADED. >> WELL, FOR A DESCENT PERIOD OF TIME, I DON'T WANT TO PULL THEM DOWN THREE MONTHS ESPECIALLY AS SOON AS YOU STUB IN, I THINK THOSE FOLKS -- I WORK IN THIS ENVIRONMENT EVERY DAY AND THEY WILL BE INUNDATED WITH MAY MORE TRAFFIC THAN THEY WANT RIGHT NOW AND I TELL YOU WHAT ELSE THEY WILL BE INUNDATED WITH SEEING WORK TRUCKS IS TRASH FALLING OFF OF IT. I GO INTO THESE BUSINESS DISTRICTS ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO. I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TRASH BUILDERS, THESE FOLKS DON'T NEED

ALL THESE PROBLEMS. >> GENERALLY, I DON'T THINK THE TRAFFIC WILL USE IT.

WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN CONTROL OF TRYING TO REGULATE ALL THE TRADES.

>> YOU CAN'T DO THAT IF THE BARRICADE IS TOOK DOWN. >> I DON'T THINK THERE ARE OBJECTIONS. I THINK IF THERE WAS A RULE FOR TIMING WHEN THE BARRICADE COMES DOWN, YEAH, I DON'T SEE WHY IT'S AN ISSUE. AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT HELD TO A GUY GETTING OUT OF HIS TRUCK AND REMOVING THE BARRICADE AND PUTTING IT BACK.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE HOPES WE LEAVE A FIXED BARRICADE UP.

>> SO -- >> I THINK IT WOULD BE A MINOR TEMPORARY DEAL IF THEY HAD TO TAKE THE BARRICADE DOWN, POURING THE CONCRETE UP TO THE CONNECTION AND PUT IT BACK TO

MAKE SURE IT'S PERMANENT. >> WHERE IT IS NOW. INTO MAGGIE LANE.

IT HAS A BARRICADE INTO THE WHITE ROAD WHERE IT CONNECTS INTO THE GREEN.

THERE'S A BARRICADE EXISTING. WHO IS GOING TO WHAT? IS IT

>> IT'S THERE. YEAH. OKAY.

>> WELL THE BARRICADE HAS BEEN THERE.

. >> COUNCIL.

>> OKAY. WHAT IS YOUR -- THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET STAFF TO -- I CANT

HEAR YOU. >> IT'S AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. >> WHY WOULD YOU PICK 40?

WHY WOULD YOU NOT PICK 60? I'M PICKING AT LEAST 60%. >> I PICK 20.

>> I WANT TO MAKE ONE POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

RIGHT NOW MAGGIE LANE IS A PUBLIC ROAD THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

WHEN WE ACCEPT A NEW MAGGIE LANE, IT BECOMES A PUBLIC ROAD. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE RESTRICT TRAFFIC ON A PUBLIC ROAD. AGAIN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT -- RIGHT.

WE GOT A PUBLIC ROAD. IT'S UNUSEABLE. >> WHY DON'T WE CLOSE IT THE SAME WAY FOR EVENTS? IT'S GOT TO BE PERMANENT. THEY CAN'T PULL UP AND DRIVE

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AROUND. >> RIGHT NOW, THE BARRICADES SHOULD BE AT THE END OF THE ROAD. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IN PAVEMENT AND HAVE TO SPAN THE ROAD WITH SOMETHING AND MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T GO AROUND IT.

IF YOU PUT TEMPORARY, IT WILL BE MOVED EVERY DAY. >> HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO PUT

IN A PERMANENT BARRICADE AND HOW MUCH TO >> PROBABLY SEVERAL

DOLLARS. >> FIVE, 10. >> NOW, MAYBE $1,500 TO INSTALL.

>> LESS THAN $3,000? >> YES, SIR. >> WHAT DID YOU DON'T PAVE THE

GAP? THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. >> UNTIL THE VERY END.

>> NOW YOU'RE ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO COME OUT -- WHEN YOU ACCEPT --

>> WHAT CAUSES --

LEAVE A 10 FOOT GAP. >> THEN WE'VE GOT TO PUT THAT IN.

HOW MUCH WOULD A 10 FOOT GAP COST US TO PUT IN? >> $250 A FOOT.

PLUS MOBILIZER. >> I THINK WE'RE BEATING UP A HORSE.

>> I THINK THERE'S, JUST THE CLIMATE. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT MIKE IS SAYING. THAT THAT'S A CONCERN. BUT I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND IT JUST MAKES SENSE, TO START WITH WHILE THEY'RE BUILDING WITH NOT USE MAGGIE LANE. ONCE THEY GET THE STREETS BUILT, INCLUDING MAGGIE LANE, THE

BARRICADES COME OUT. >> YOU REALIZE THAT WILL BE IN THE BEGINNING OF CONSTRUCTION? SO WHILE ALL THOSE HOUSES ARE BUILT FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, YOU HAVE ONE TON FLAT BEDS DELIVERING BATHTUBS, SHOWERS. YOU HAVE ALL THAT.

>> AND YOU LIKE THAT IF YOU LIVED THERE? >> MIKE, MIKE, WE HAVE NEVER

DONE THIS BEFORE. LEFT THE BARRICADE. >> SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC ROAD, I BELIEVE WE CAN SET WEIGHT LIMITS. NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

NO. ONLY AFTER IT'S FINISHED. AFTER THE SUBDIVISION --

>> ALL RIGHT. CHIEF. I WILL HOLD EVERYBODY TURN

LIGHTS OFF. >> CHIEF. >> I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE DRC PLANNING FOR THIS, BUT JUST AS AN OBSERVATION IF WE PUT BARRICADES UP, WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THOSE BARRICADES IN A TIME OF EMERGENCY.

THERE'S -- WHEN WE COME DOWN GEORGIA WAY IF WE'RE LAYING A HOUSE LINE THIS WAY AND HAVE TO STOP BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTINUE, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE HYDRANTS ARE SPACED OUT.

IT'S SOMETHING WE RECOMMEND IT BE SOMETHING THAT IS EITHER LOCKABLE, MOVABLE, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH IN A TIME OF EMERGENCY. THAT'S JUST --

>> WOULD MAGGIE BE ON YOUR PREFERRED ROUTE TO THAT EASTERN POINT?

>> DEPENDS ON IF WE'RE HAVING A STRUCTURE FIRE, THEN OVILLA WILL RESPOND AND THEY WILL COME FROM THE NORTHEAST AND COME IN. THEY COULD OBVIOUSLY TAKE THE MORE NORTHERN ROUTE AND DROP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DEPENDING ON WHERE MAGGIE IS THOUGH, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEBODY TURNS ON TO THAT STREET AND WE START HEADING DOWN AND SEE A FIRE AND THERE'S A HYDRANT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I HAVE A BARRICADE AND I CAN'T GET THROUGH IT.

THAT BECOMES A PUBLIC ISSUE FOR US. AND AND IT BECOMES AN ISSUE OF

RESPONSE. >> IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. >> I'M NOT, I DON'T LIKE GATES AND BARRICADES PERSONALLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUSINESS WE'RE IN.

IT SLOWS US DOWN AND WE'RE IN A BUSINESS OF RESPONSE. IF WE DO BARRICADE THAT, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE IT BE A BARRICADE, IF WE HIT IT, WE CAN GET THROUGH IT SOMEHOW.

JUST MY SUGGESTION. >> THIS IS A SIMPLE THING. I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP THOSE FOLKS FROM HAVING 52,000 VEHICLES COMING THROUGH HERE. I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO BUILD THE NEXT SPACE SHUTTLE. WHATEVER YOU THINK. I GIVE UP.

>> I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE TEMPORARY BARRIER AND SOMEBODY MOVES IT AND GOES AROUND IT.

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>> I AGREE WITH MIKE, THE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE FOR THE

NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS. >> MAYOR, WE WILL HAVE THAT IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD BEING BUILT.

>> WE'RE NOT CLOSING STREETS IN THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. >> THE STREET IS NOT CLOSED, IT'S ALREADY

>> THEN I MAKE A MOTION APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> AS PRESENTED? >> WITH THE P&Z? >> THE BARRICADE UNTIL THE ROAD

IS BUILT. >> I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, HE'S ALREADY CALLED. I KNOW I'M JUST SAYING.

WE CAN STILL DISCUSS. WESTERN END OF MAGGIE LANE AS IT EXISTS BE REMAIN BARRICADED [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTED AND BUILT THE PROPERTY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SUCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT. WHENEVER THE CITY ACCEPTS THE ROAD, THE BARRICADES ARE DOWN.

>> I THINK IT'S PREMATURE FOR US TO PUSH A MOTION THROUGH BEFORE WE TALK THIS POINT THROUGH.

I AGREE WITH MIKE. >> WE HAVE GONE AROUND THE TREE THREE OUR FOUR TIMES ALREADY.

>> I HAVE SEEN US GO AROUND THE TREE MORE FOR FENCES. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL A VOTE ON THIS? I HEAR NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

IT'S A TIE VOTE AND THEREFORE IT DOES NOT PASS. SO, I GUESS --

>> LET THIS GENTLEMEN, HE'S THE DEVELOPER. >> DO YOU WANT TO LET HIM SPEAK?

>> YES. >> TURN YOUR LIGHT ON FIRST. >> START OVER.

MY NAME IS ANDREW GARRETT, 1,000 WAXAHACHIE. I REPORT THE DEVELOPER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY SUPER BRIEF, WE WOULD HATE FOR THIS TO FAIL TODAY OR NOT PASS FOR AN ISSUE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE STREET BEING BARRICADED. YOU CAN SHUT IT DOWN.

WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET USED MUCH ANYWAYS. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO NOT BE PUNTED ANOTHER TWO WEEKS AT THE EXPENSE OF AN INTERNAL DISCUSSION OVER THIS BARRICADE SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS TALK A LITTLE MORE. THIS IS OUR TIME TO DISCUSS THE MATTER. SO I'M ALL ABOUT FINDING A SOLUTION.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BARRICADE AND WE'RE ABOUT TO BE PUNISHED.

THIS IS ON THE FUTURE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. SO WE CAN KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD THREE TO FIVE YEARS AND I'M FOR THAT. THAT'S GREAT.

BUT THERE'S ABOUT TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THAT ROAD. SO I JUST, I WOULD LIKE FOR

Y'ALL TO DISCUSS IT. WE'RE FINE WITH THE BARRICADE. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

WE DO NOT WANT TO PUNISH YOU. THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. WE ARE TRYING TO DEEM WHAT IS BEST FOR THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS. I APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION.

WE ALSO WANT WHAT IS BEST AND I SPOKE WITH MR. JOHNSON AFTER THE LAST MEETING AND THEY WERE THRILLED THIS IS A ONE ACRE LOT SUBDIVISION AND NOT .25 ACRE LOT AND CRAMMING HOMES IN THERE.

WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THOSE ISSUES. IN FACT, I'M TRYING TO THINK IT'S A CITY ORDINANCE THAT WE DO CONNECT TO THE ROAD, OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE CUL-DE-SACKED IT.

WE WOULD RATHER BE OUR OWN SUBDIVISION. MY REQUEST IS FOR YOU TO FIGURE

OUT >> SO WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT? >> YOU WANT THEM TO CONNECT TO

THE STREET UNTIL THE HOMES ARE BUILT? >> I THINK THAT WE -- AND I MIKE

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IT WILL BE OUR FIRST TIME DOING IT. IF WE CAN GET A PERCENTAGE OF HOMES YOU WANT TO SEE BUILT PRIOR TO US PULLING THE BARRICADE, WE'RE WILL DO OUR BEST TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BARRICADE THAT ROAD AND PULL IT ONCE THAT HAPPENS.

IF SOME SOME REASON WE CAN'T, WE WILL COME BACK. THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO INSTALL AND KIND OF BARRICADE ACROSS THAT ROAD. WE WILL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. IT WILL BE THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE DONE.

IF WE CAN GET A PERCENTAGE OF HOMES, WE CAN TRACK THAT. WE CAN TRACK HOW MANY BUILDING PERMITS WE PULL. AND WHEN WE GET TO THE NUMBER, WE WILL PULL IT UP.

I AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT. IF THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS, AND WE DO SUPPORT IT FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO LET IT DIE OVER A BARRICADE. I THINK WE CAN FIX.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO PROCEED FORWARD. >> IF IT HAD BEEN A CUL-DE-SAC,

A LOT OF THESE ARGUMENTS -- >> IT'S A THOROUGHFARE. >> I'M SAYING IF WE'RE MAKING AN ARGUMENT. IF WE CAN HAVE SOME BARRICADES ACCEPTABLE.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, CHRIS, IF WE BASE OFF PERMITS,

THEY WILL START CONSTRUCTION. >> THAT WAY THE HOME IS COMPLETED AND SHOULDN'T HAVE

MORE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. >> WE CAN TRACK IT OFF THAT. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

50. >> 60% PLUS OR MINUS. >> 50 IS FINE, LET'S DO IT.

>> 50% CO. >> JOE IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO?

YOU CAN HELP US WITH THE WORDING? >> IT'S JUST SO YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKET.

SUGGESTION TO ADD TO HIS, ON SECTION I NUMBER FOUR, WE STRIKE THE WORD PRIVATE.

SO IT'S >> YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> SO WE'RE DOING THE SAME TYPE OF PLAT ADDITION WE DID ON THE ASHER

>> IT'S SIMILAR. >> OKAY. DO YOU NEED THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE P&Z AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THE ADDITION OF MAGGIE LANE BEING BARRICADED AT THE CITY STAFF'S DISCRETION UNTIL 50% OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CARRIES A CO. CARRIES A CO.

AND PUBLIC PRIVATE AIRPORT CHANGE -- >> AND PRIVATE AIRCRAFT IS

CHANGED TO PUBLIC. >> JOE HELP ME HERE. MOTION IS TO APPROVE STAFF AND P&Z'S ORDINANCE, AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES. I 3 CHANGED TO 50% OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ISSUED. SECTION FOUR OF THE PRIVATE AIRPORTS CHANGED TO PUBLIC AIRCRAFT. 5 B IS CHANGED FROM PRIVATE TO PUBLIC AIRPORT.

>> USE AIRPORT. AT STAFF'S YEAH.

OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. SO, WE HAVE

>> SECOND. >> OKAY. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 5-1. THANK YOU. THANKS GUYS.

>> THANK YOU. >> OPEN PUBLIC ITEM 2020-277. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND

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>> THANK YOU. THIS IS PROPERTY ON 716 WEST AVENUE D.

REQUEST CHANGE IN ZONING TO URBAN DISTRICT AND MORE SPECIFIC OFFICE USES.

THE PROPERTY TO EAST IS REZONED. THIS IS VERY COMMON AND THIS IS A DVPD IS USED FOR INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS WANTING TO TRANSFORM THIS BUILDING THAT USED TO BE A CHURCH INTO A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME. THEY ARE CHANGING THE FRONT FACADE OF THE STRUCTURE.

WITH VARIOUS ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND WE DID MAIL OUT NOTICES. 216 NOTICES, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN PUBLIC OPPOSITION.

THIS DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> WE ANSWER NO SPEAKERS. >> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 6-0. I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS. JUST, I HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY WITH THIS BUILDING AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. MY DAD BUILT THIS TWO STORY PART. THAT WAS OUR FIRST CHURCH WE HAD IN THE 80S.

I BASICALLY GREW UP IN THIS BUILDING. I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT TURN INTO

AN EXCITING PROJECT. >> IT'S GREAT INSTEAD OF TEARING DOWN OLD BUILDINGS TO USE THEM.

>> IT MAKES A GREAT ADDITION THROUGH OUR MAIN DRAG IN TOWN. EXCITED ABOUT IT.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION TO >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

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>> THIS IS LOCATED ON NORTH WALNUT DROVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF KEN SING TON PARK.

THEY REQUEST TO CHANGE TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE APPROXIMATELY 45 DWELLING UNITS ON IT.

IT'S ONE OF OUR SMALLER SUBDIVISIONS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THAT GENERALLY WE REQUIRE THE BUILDINGS NOT TO REPEAT THEIR FACADES. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO NOT REPEAT THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE BLOCK ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

YOU WILL HAVE A MORE DIVERSE DEVELOPMENT, DIVERSE DESIGNS BEING USED, VARIOUS ARCHITECTURE ALL ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ALSO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WITH COMPARISONS.

THE THOROUGHFARE DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE DEDICATION REQUIRED FOR THAT.

WALNUT GROVE IS A 120 FOOT WIDE THOROUGHFARE. THEY ARE DEDICATED THE REQUIRED AMOUNT SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. IN THE SECTION, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6.11.9 OF SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WALL SHALL NOT EXCEED 1300 FEET. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 1650 FEET WHICH DOES EXCEED THE STANDARD BY 330 FEET. IN THIS SITUATION, STAFF IS IN FAVOR DUE TO HOW SMALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS. WE LOOKED AT HOW TO REDO THIS WHAT WE COULD DO IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT BUT, THERE WASN'T A LOT YOU COULD DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT WORK. ON JULY 21ST, 2020, THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

NO CLEAR CUTTING. THE REMOVAL IS FOR DRAINAGE, LOCATION OF UTILITIES, SIDEWALKS

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THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ALTHOUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT PROVIDE A USEABLE PARK OR TRAIN SYSTEM, DUE TO THE LARGE LOTS, THESE ARE ALL MINIMUM SIZE OF ONE ACRE IN SIZE. A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE USEABLE OPEN SPACE AND BE ABLE TO CREATE A SUBDIVISION.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE SENT OUT 22 NOTICES AND RECEIVED ONE LETTER THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY IN OPPOSITION ABOUT HAD CONCERNS. FROM THE AVIARY ACROSS THE ROAD.

THEY TAKE PRIDE IN HOW CUSTOM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS. THEY WEREN'T IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO THIS. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

I HOPE I DON'T REGRET THIS. IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S ON THE FUTURE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

>> BARRICADE IT. >> SERIOUS QUESTION. >> YES, THAT IS -- YES.

AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES CONNECTIVITY AND SO IN EVERY SUBDIVISION, WE DO PROMOTE THAT FEATURE IN THE PLAN TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT THAT AS CONNECTIVITY.

>> I CONCUR. AND ON THE WALNUT GROVE RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION BECAUSE WE KNOW AT SOME POINT WE WILL BE DOING WALNUT GROVE. I WONDERED THIS ON MOCKINGBIRD.

WE TALK ABOUT TRAIL CONNECTIVITY. IS THE REASON WE DON'T REQUIRE THEM TO BUILD SIDEWALKS IS BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT-OF-WAY?

>> THAT'S ONE POINT. ON THIS SIDE OF WALNUT GROVE, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IF WE START REQUIRING SIDEWALKS, TRAILS AND WE EXTEND THE ROAD.

>> WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPER DOING IT BECAUSE IT SAVES US MONEY.

>> WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT IN THE ORDINANCE. >> I DON'T WANT THEM TO BUILD A SIDEWALK IF WE DON'T HAVE PLANS TO PUT ONE IN WALNUT GROVE. WE TALK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN AND BRINGS ME TO A GREEN SPACE. IT'S A SMALL SUBDIVISION BUT THERE'S NO PARKS ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN. I UNDERSTAND IT'S A SMALL SUBDIVISION, WE HAVE SMALLER SUBDIVISIONS PUT IN GREEN SPACES.

I'M NOT SURE -- >> DO WHAT? >> IT'S 2.34 ACRES.

>> IT'S A RETENTION POND. >> IT'S A SMALLER SUBDIVISION SUCH AS 1387 AS CLIFTON PLACE IS ONE WE'RE RECOMMENDING. THE ONE THAT CAME BACK WITH A TRAIL AROUND IT.

WE FOUND DIFFICULTIES DOING THAT BECAUSE THE TRAIL LED TO NOWHERE.

IT'S SO SMALL. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY. >> OKAY.

I THINK SOME OF THE THEORY OVER TIME HAS BEEN ON THE LARGER ONE ACRE LOTS.

THEY HAD THEIR OWN OPEN SPACE. THEY DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL.

THAT'S JUST ONE THEORY. AND ON THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, YOU'RE CORRECT, WE GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS, WE TALK ORIGINALLY. YOU CERTAINLY PER OUR ORDINANCE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN THERE. WE JUST DON'T HAVE IMMEDIATE PLANS TO CONNECT. IT COULD BE FIVE YEARS, 30 YEARS BEFORE WE'RE READY TO CONNECT A

SIDEWALK THROUGH THAT AREA. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALK THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION?

>> TRAIL TYPES? >> INTERNAL TO THEIR SUBDIVISION, THEY HAVE A BAR DITCH, AND RURAL SECTION STREET WITH NO CURVE. WE WOULD NOT TYPICALLY REQUIRED

SIDEWALKS. >> I GUESS IN THE REALITY OF THE MORE RURAL NATURE, THAT PORTION OF DEVELOPMENT OF OUR TOWN, THE SCHOOL SETTINGS AND SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT NOT TO TAKE AWAY THE KID COULDN'T POSSIBLY WALK TO SCHOOL, WHAT IS THE REAL REALITY OF THAT?

>> IF YOU'RE WITHIN ONE MILE, YOU CAN'T RIDE THE BUS. >> HOW FAR IS THIS FROM THE

SCHOOL? >> THE CLOSEST SCHOOL IS THE ELEMENTARY.

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>> YOU HAVE WALNUT GROVE MIDDLE SCHOOL. >> AND THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, GOING BACK TO PARKS, OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE WHOLE LOT OF THESE SUBDIVISION PARKS IN OUR INITIAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OUR LOTS WERE BIGGER. WE HAVE GOTTEN USED TO SEEING GREEN SPACE BUT LET'S FACE THE FACTS, WHEN YOU PUT A 3500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A 60 FOOT LOT, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT TO WORK WITH. WHEN YOU'RE DOING ONE ACRE LOT, THAT'S THE BEAUTY. EACH HOUSE HAS THEIR OWN PARK. WHEN WE GREW UP, WE DIDN'T GO TO ANY GREEN SPACE. WE DIDN'T WASTE OUR TIME. WE HAVE OUR OWN YARDS TO PLAY FOOTBALL OR DOWN THE LINKS OF THAT. AT WHAT POINT IS A GREEN SPACE

VIABLE IN ONE ACRE LOTS? >> THAT'S TYPICALLY WHY WE DON'T TYPICALLY REQUIRE TOO MUCH.

NOT THAT SOMEBODY COULDN'T PUT THAT IN OR IF THERE'S A FLOOD PLAIN.

IT'S SOMETHING ELSE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO MAINTAIN.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL USE IT, I DON'T KNOW. >> WELL, CAN WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MOTION TO CLOSE. WE ALREADY CLOSED IT.

>> WE HAVEN'T CLOSED IT YET. >> PLEASE VOTE TO CLOSE. ITEM IS CLOSED.

ANY DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. >> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

WITH STAFF'S P&Z'S RECOMMENDATIONS. PLEASE VOTE.

AS PRESENTED. >> YES. TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.

SECOND. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE.

IT'S SAFER BACK THERE PROBABLY. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP IF YOU NEED TO.

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REQUIRES ONE SPACE -- IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS IT WOULD REQUIRE 43 PARKING SPACES. IF YOU ALLOW FOR A MASS NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, IT INCREASES 25%. THEY ARE REQUESTING TO GO LOWER BY ADDITIONAL 34 SPACES.

ADA TOTAL PARKING SPACES. THE MEDICAL OFFICE AND THE REASON WHY THEY ARE REQUIRING THIS IS THAT THROUGH A PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT THEY HAD THROUGH THE DFW AREA AND THROUGH VARY ANALYSIS THEY DETERMINED THIS PARKING IS NEEDED FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS, DOCTORS AND NURSES THAT ATTEND THIS FACILITY. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHER MEDICAL OFFICE USES IN THE AREA WHERE THEY IN THE SAME STRIP A LONG PRESIDENTIAL PARK WAY WHERE THEY REQUESTED TO EXTEND THEIR PARKING AT A LATER TIME. THEY'RE DOING IT BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEGUN. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.

THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE'S NO DISCUSSION FOR BARRICADE.

MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE

AS PRESENTED. >> ITEM PASSES 4-0. FOR THE RECORD JUSTIN COFFMAN

AND CLARK ARE ABSENT AT THE VOTE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

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TAX RATE FOR SEPTEMBER 8, 2020. >> GOT IT. PUSH YOUR BUTTON.

TECHNOLOGY TONIGHT IS NOT MY FRIEND. ANYWAY.

WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS AS THE MAYOR SAID, THE RECORD A RECORD VOTE FOR THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF AD VALOREMTAX RATE. THIS DOES THE NOT HAVE TO BE THE RATE THAT IS THE ULTIMATE RATE CHOSEN. IF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A MAXIMUM SET. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SUMMARY FOR THE PUBLIC THE CITY'S TOAST ADJUSTED TAXABLE IS $4,000,649,000 PER CERTIFIED ESTIMATE MAKING EACH PENNY OF TAX DOLLARS WORTH $443,664 FOR THE CITY'S BUDGET.

THE CERTIFIED ESTIMATE IS IN A TERS. THERE'S A CITY VALUE AND TERS VALUE. THE TERS IS AROUND THE RAIL PORT.

OUR PROPOSED MAXIMUM TAX RATE PER THE AGENDA ITEM IS POINT 685 CENTS.

THAT'S BROKEN INTO TWO COMPONENTS. ONE IS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. WHICH IS THE OPERATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

YOUR POLICE, YOUR FIRE. YOUR OTHER CITY SERVICES. THAT IS POINT THREE 73481 CENTS

AND THEN YOUR PROPOSED, I'M SORRY -- >> THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION TAX PORTION IS .373481. THEN THE PROPOSED INTEREST IN SYNCING TAX RATE FOR YOUR DEBT

IS POINT 31151 NINE CENTS. >> POINT THREE 11519 CENTS. >> OKAY.

>> SO THOSE TWO TOGETHER EQUATE TO THE 685. THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

JUST BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, THERE IS A NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE DESIGNED BY THE LEGISLATURE TO HELP THE PUBLIC EVALUATE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TAXES OF THE PRIOR YEAR AND THE CURRENT YEAR.

SO, IT'S BASED ON THE TAX RATE THAT WOULD PRODUCE THE SAME REVENUE DOLLARS.

FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS CALCULATED .639989.

THEN THERE'S ALSO A VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE AND THAT'S THE MAXIMUM RATE THAT IS ALLOWED BY LAW WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL. SO WITHOUT GOING OUT TO THE VOTERS THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN SET AND THAT IS .685495; SO YOUR PROPOSED MAXIMUM OF THE 685 IS LOWER THAN THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE. THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE CITY HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLISH A NEWSPAPER AD BEFORE ADOPTING THE TAX RATE WHICHEVER RATE IS LOWER.

AND SINCE THE PROPOSED TAX RATE WILL EXCEED THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, THEN THOSE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE MET. SO IF IT STAYS .68 WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

ONCE THE COUNCIL DISCUSSES AND SETS THAT MAXIMUM RATE AND IT'S ESTABLISHED, A LOWER RATE CAN BE ADOPTED LIKE I SAID BEFORE. THE .685 IS JUST A CAP. HOWEVER, ADOPTING A HIGHER RATE.

I PROBABLY LOST EVERYBODY IN IT IS AUDIENCE. IF YOU GO ABOVE THAT .685,Y THEN WE HAVE TO START THE TAX RATE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. SO, ADDITIONALLY, AS ANOTHER THING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO DO IS WE ALSO HAVE TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED

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THAT WOULD BE OUR NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AFTER WELL, IT'S NOT THE NEXT, IT WILL BE THE SECOND ONE THAT WE HAVE. SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUBLISH IN OUR ITEMS OF RECORD AND LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE AND SCHEDULE THE HEARING. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, JUST OPEN

FOR YOUR DISCUSSION WHAT ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE. >> COUNCIL.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. YOU, WE'RE BASICALLY

ESTABLISHING A RATE. >> YES.

>> FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> YES. >> WHEN WILL WE ACTUALLY POSE THE VOTE ON WHAT THE RATE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY BE? WHAT DATE? I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID THAT. WITHIN ALL THAT.

>> I SAID A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE. WELL, THE ACTUAL VOTE TO SET THE

RATE AND ADOPT IT, WOULD BE ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

I WAS GOING TO SAY SEPTEMBER. WE DO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, OUR NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IS AUGUST 25TH. AT THAT TIME, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE RATE AND THEN YOU'LL SCHEDULE AND OFFICIALLY SET THE DATE AT SEPTEMBER 8TH HOPEFULLY.

>> WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT MEETING? >> THAT'S WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAS. THAT'S WHEN YOU PREFER THE DISCUSSION BE?

>> WELL, NOW LET ME JUST ADD TO IT. KEEP IN MIND AFTER THIS RECORD VOTE IS WHEN ALL THE PUBLICATIONS GO OUT. IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE RATE GOING OUT AT 68.5 IS THE MAX. THAT'S WHAT ALL THE PUBLICATIONS WILL GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC. IF YOU WANT A LOWER RATE AND PREFER THAT GO OUT TO THE

PUBLIC, YOU WOULD WANT TO ADOPT THAT RATE TONIGHT. >> SINCE YOU MAKE THAT POINT, I WILL JUST GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. I'M GOING TO PROPOSE A TAX RATE

OF .675 FOR NEXT YEAR. >> MY ONLY QUESTION BEFORE I CONSIDER THE PENNY DROP.

IS THAT $450,000. >> ABOUT $443,000. >> SO WE'LL CALL IT 450.

WHAT IS OUR EXPECTED AD VALOREM GAIN? >> I THINK IT WAS 14 AND A HALF.

>> WE WILL HAVE A 14 AND A HALF GAIN IN REVENUE. >> WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT A $38 MILLION BUDGET ON M& D? OR AM I WRONG ON THAT? M& O.

>> SO BASICALLY, IF WE DID THE FOUR %, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ABOUT A WHOPPING, I DID THAT

WRONG. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 1.1 %. >> SO, WE'VE GOT A 14 PERCENT GAIN AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO THE FOLKS THAT WATCH ON VIDEO, WE HAVE A 14% GAIN IN REVENUE AND IF WE WERE, IF I WAS TO SUPPORT WHAT THE MAYOR HAS PROPOSED WHICH IS A 1% DROP --

>> I SAID, $0.01 DROP. IT'S ALMOST THE SAME THING. 1.1 %.

I CAN EASILY SUPPORT THAT. >> WHAT IS OUR PROJECTED REVENUE?

BASED ON THE CERTIFIED -- >> YEAH, I DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH ME.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE IT? >> I DIDN'T EVEN BRING MY PHONE UP HERE.

>> I SAID FOUR BILLION. >> WELL, OUR FREEZE ADJUSTED TAXABLE VALUE, SO THAT'S --

>> EXCLUDING. I WAS TALKING VALUE. IT WAS $4,000,436,640.

>> ROUGHLY OVER 30 MILLION. KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S BROKEN DOWN IN THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE M& O PORTION. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY MIKE, YOU MENTIONED $38 MILLION.

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YOU TAKE THE 443. YOU TAKE THAT 68 POINT FIVE CENTS.

THAT'S A LITTLE OVER $30 MILLION. BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE

DEBT SERVICE. >> OUR BUDGET PROPOSED BUDGET IS 38, SO, REGULAR BUDGET.

THE $0.01 ON THE $30 MILLION IS 1.5 %. I CAN STILL SUPPORT THAT.

>> JUST FOR THE GENERAL FUND, WHEN YOU DO IT BY THE OPERATIONS RATES, IT'S ABOUT $16.5 MILLION.

>> WE DO. WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER. SO, WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK NOW.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. ALAN MORM AN, 1621 RUGGED TRAIL. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I SPENT THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS REALLY DIGGING INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS. LEARNED A LOT DURING THAT TIME AND READ EVERY SINGLE PAGE OF THE BUDGET I THINK. MAKE YOUR EYES KIND OF CROSS LOOKING AT ALL OF IT. BUT, AS I WAS DOING SO, I HAD A COUPLE TAKE AWAYS AND JUST TO THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM THAT I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT AND PROBABLY ON GOING. AND REALLY JUST AS I LOOKED AT IT, AND LOOKED AT IT OVERALL, I SAW SOMETHING MENTIONED EARLIER, THE 14% INCREASE PROJECTED INCREASE IN REVENUE.

AND YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT I BEGIN TO THINK JUST, I ONLY A SMALL BUSINESS HERE.

IF YOU, AND YOU KNOW, I MAKE AN INCOME AND A LIVING FOR MY FAMILY.

THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IF YOU WERE TO GO AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND ASK HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE GOT A 14% RAISE THIS YEAR OR HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE ON A 14% INCREASE, I DON'T THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND. SO, I JUST REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE SUGGESTION AND CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN HAD ABOUT AN INCREASE IN THE ACTUAL TAX RATE BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE ALTHOUGH THERE'S BEEN COMMENTS, IT MAY ONLY BE $30 AND MAY ONLY BE $40, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT $30 AND $40 OFF THEIR TAX BILL MEANS SOMETHING TO THEM.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> I WANT TO TRY TO CLARIFY A COUPLE POINTS FOR MYSELF.

THE 14% INCREASE IS IN THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. >> IT'S IN THE VALUE OF THE

PROPERTY. >> AND IT'S KEEP IN MIND, AD VALOREM IS THE BIGGEST BUT ONE SOURCE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A 14% OVERALL INCREASE IN REVENUE.

JUST IN THAT ONE PARTICULAR LINE ITEM. >> IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MANY NUMBERS THAT ANN SAID, WE ALL GLAZED OVER, THE REVENUE NEUTRAL TAX RATE, IS LOWER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THE AMOUNT WE CAN RAISE WAS WITHIN STATE LAW.

THE 3.5 INCREASE. WE'RE BARELY UNDER THAT. SO, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE -- WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE CALCULATIONS BECAUSE IT MAKES ALL OF OUR EYES ROLL, THEY HAVE A NEW PROVISION WHICH IS MAKING US TAKE OFF VALUE FROM LAST YEAR.

THAT'S ACTUALLY DRIVING THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE DOWN BELOW WHAT IT WAS AT AND THESE ARE FOR VALUES FOR SOMEBODY, NOT JUST PROTESTED BUT FILED SUIT AGAINST THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THOSE COURT CASES STILL HAVEN'T BEEN SOLVED, SO, WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE VALUE OFF OF LAST YEAR AND WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE VALUES HAVEN'T BEEN CERTIFIED YET.

SO, THERE IS SOME I WOULD SAY A LITTLE QUIRK IN THE CALCULATION DRIVING THAT NUMBER DOWN WHAT WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE. I THINK THAT'S WORTH NOTING. I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO IMPERATIVE FOR THE DECISION YOU HAVE TODAY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER AND IT'S LOW, WHY CAN'T WE GO LOWER? THERE'S QUIRKS IN THE CALCULATION.

>> AND FOR THOSE LISTENING TO THIS, PLEASE BE ADVISED, THAT THE PROPOSED $0.01 REDUCTION

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AND WE PLAN ON ISSUING DEBT TO MAINTAIN OUR, WHATEVER THE TAX RATE IS.

FOR PROJECTS WE HAVE. >> WELL $30 PER HOUSE. 30 TO $45 PER HOUSE, I'M GOING TO PAY $2,200 FOR ONE PENNY. I WILL PAY $2,200 OF MY MOONEY TO MAKE SURE OUR ROADS ARE KEPT UP AND GET BETTER BECAUSE AT 14% INCREASE MEANS WE INCREASED OUR POPULATION, OUR ROAD TRAFFIC, EVERYTHING ELSE AT ONE PENNY IS MORE A PUBLICITY STUNT. WE ARE FINALLY GETTING TO THE PLATEAU WHERE WE SEEING BETTER RETURNS ON OUR MONEY, AT 40 BUCKS A PERSON.

THAT'S A TRIP TO MCDONALD'S FOR THE KIDS. >> AS I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS IS JUST A START. I AM IN BY NO MEANS ON THE DOCKET TO THINK IN ANY WAY WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE AD VALOREM TAXES TO CREATE THE GREAT CITY WE HAVE. I HEARD THE STATEMENTS OVER TIME AND NOW BY THIS COUNCIL.

I'M GOING OFF OTHER STATEMENTS REFERRING TO YOU CANNOT GIVE TAX REDUCTIONS WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING A CITY. THAT I BELIEVE YOU CAN. I BELIEVE WE CAN ESPECIALLY AS MIDLOTHIAN BECAUSE WE SIT IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A TAX BURDEN LIKE A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ON OUR SALES TAX. WE COULD GET IN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT SALS TAX. THAT CAN BE USED TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THIS SIDE IF IT'S USED APPROPRIATELY AND MY VIEW. SO THAT BEING SAID, ALL I'M STATING WITHIN THIS IS, I WOULD HOPE THAT IN TIME, WE STARTED OUT IF YOU REMEMBER AT .708. AND WE COMPLAINED TO THEM BECAUSE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING DOWN TO 675 AND GOOD LORD WILLING IN ANOTHER COUPLE YEARS WE WILL BE DOWN TO 65. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT MORE BUSINESSES WITH MORE PERSONAL PROPERTY AND MORE RETAIL SALES TAX, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TO RUN OR CITY GOOD LORD WILLING WE CAN USE THAT TO KEEP ON FOLKS WATCHING AND REDUCING YOUR AD VALOREM TAXES SO ALL THAT RETAIL SALES SYSTEMS IS WORKING FOR YOU.

>> DEBT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. THAT WILL HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT GOING OUT

ON A LIMB, WE'RE REDUCING DEBT IN THE NEXT YEAR. >> THERE'S AND REDUCTION THIS YEAR, THERE'S MORE ROLLING OFF THE FOLLOWING YEAR. AND I KNOW WE ONLY HAD ONE MEETING BEFORE COVID HIT FOR THOSE WHO WERE ATTENDED TO THE CITIZENS PLANNING GROUP MEETING, YOU SAW OR PROPOSED IF WE GO OUT FOR BOND ELECTION, WE HAVE A SCHEDULE OUT THERE.

WE HAVE DEBT DROPPING OFF. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES WE HAVE DEBT ROLLING OFF.

IF THAT'S NOT REPLACED OR WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD NEW THINGS ET CETERA.

THAT RATE WILL START COMING DOWN. >> I WANT TO STRESS TO THE PUBLIC WE HAVE THINGS WE WANT TO REPLACE AND CONTINUE TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN AND GET EVEN BETTER FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY. BUT NOT TO HOLD YOU TO ANYTHING OF OUR DEBT LOAD, WHAT ROUGH PERCENTILE WOULD WE DROP OFF OVER THE NEXT, INTO NEXT YEAR DO YOU THINK OF OUR COUNTRY DEBT

LOAD PERCENTAGE WISE? >> I DON'T REMEMBER PERCENTAGE WISE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS TWO TO $3 MILLION. THE NUMBER THAT'S STUCK IN MY

HEAD. BUT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE KNOW

THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTILE. IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION.

>> THANK YOU. >> THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE 14% INCREASE AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT WE ARE A GROWING CITY AND THAT IS A REFLECTION OF A GROWING CITY AND NOT A PAY INCREASE LIKE YOU SEE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD BECAUSE OUR SERVICES MUST INCREASE WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH. SO THERE ARE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE INCREASE OF INCOME.

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>> I THINK IT'S A POLITICAL ISSUE RIGHT NOW AND I AM NOT INTO POLITICAL STUFF.

BUT, WE HAVE BEEN DOING PRETTY WELL TO KEEP THE CITY GOING. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES.

IT'S NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR. IT'S ONLY GOING TO GO WORSE INSTEAD OF BETTER. SO I CAN'T VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

>> I AM CONFUSED WHY YOU SAY IT'S A POLITICAL ISSUE. THE REASON I SAY THAT, I, YOU

KNOW, OKAY. >> WELL, I STILL WANT $0.02. BUT I WILL SETTLE FOR ONE.

THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY I DIDN'T WANT THE CITY TO PUT THEIR MONEY IN THE PARK BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO DO $0.02 TAX INCREASE. ONE IS FINE.

AS FAR AS HURTING THE CITY IN THE FUTURE, LIKE I KEEP SAYING, IN EIGHT MONTHS, THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO LET US KNOW HOW MUCH DEBT THEY WANT US TO HAVE. ONE PENNY TODAY IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IN EIGHT MONTHS TO A YEAR.

SO, I AM FINE WITH LOWERING A PENNY. IN FACT I WOULD RATHER GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THE PUBLIC NOTICES. I DON'T HAVE COMMITMENT ISSUES. I WOULD RATHER GO AHEAD AND DO THE ONE PENNY DECREASE ON ALL THE NOTICES. THAT'S A PERSONAL

>>

ALTERNATIVE MAXIMUM. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 68.5. >> TO ME THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. IT'S SOMETHING PHILOSOPHICAL BUT STILL VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK PART OF THE ARGUMENT FROM MIKE, WHERE DO WE WANT OUR TAX RATE TO GO OVER TIME? AND AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SMALL COMMITTAL CHANGE AND I THINK OVER TIME, WE NEED TO LOOK AT EITHER LEVELLING OFF OR SLIGHTLY LOWERING IT.

WE CAN DO THIS. OUR REVENUES ARE STRONG. WE ARE IN A FAVORABLE SITUATION AND WE ARE GOING INTO A PERIOD OF UNCERTAINTY. WITH THE INCREASE WE SEE, WE SHOULD GIVE A LITTLE BACK TO THE CITIZENS AND I THINK THE CITIZENS WILL LET US BE HEARD.

DEBT WISE WE'RE IN GOOD POSITION. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON IN MY OPINION ANOTHER ENOUGH TO DO THE PROJECTS WE NEED TO DO.

IN FACT I WILL GO ON RECORD AND SAYING WE NEED A BOND PROPOSAL HERE NEXT YEAR FOR THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO. AND WE HAVE MONEY. IT'S -- WE'RE ARGUING OVER HOW QUICKLY WE CAN ISSUE THAT DEBT. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WHAT CHRIS HAS SHOWN US IN THE PAST SAYS THAT WE CAN ISSUE ENOUGH DEBT TO DO THE PROJECTS WE NEED. WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE MORE, BUT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO JUST HAVE DISCIPLINE AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS AT THIS POINT. I THINK THIS IS WARRANTED AT THIS POINT.

AND I DO NOT THINK IT'S POLITICAL OR PUBLIC STUNT. WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION THAT

WE ACCEPT THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE AT >> SECOND.

>> NO. YES. NO.

>> MILLER. >> YES.

YES. TWO. 4-2.

THE MOTION TO SET THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE OF .675 PASSES 4-2. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR

US? >> NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. BUT I HAVE MORE.

OH, YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WOULD MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, WE WILL GO AHEAD

AND SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 8TH. >> YES.

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>> WE WILL DISCUSS IT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE. BUT WE WILL POST IT AT THE POINT

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OF .675. >> 2020-281. CONSIDER AN AGREEMENT WITH CIGNA

TO PROVIDE FLEXIBLE SPENDING AND MEDICAL AND DENTAL SPENDING. >> THIS WAS A LONG PROCESS.

I TELL YOU WE ASKED YOU TO DENY BIDS BECAUSE THEY CAME BACK SO HIGH WE COULD NOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE BRING THEM FORWARD. WE DID HAVE A, THESE ARE BIDS FOR MEDICAL, DENTAL AND FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNTS. OUR VOLUNTARY LIFE, THAT WHOLE CADRE OF BENEFITS WERE NOT UP.

THOSE GO THROUGH NEXT YEAR BUT WE HAD TO ADDRESS MEDICAL AND DENTAL AND OUR FLEXIBLE SPENDING. WE CALLED TOGETHER A GROUP OF EMPLOYEES.

IT WAS ACROSS DEPARTMENTAL AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS ON THIS.

WE DID USE THE SERVICES OF BENEFITS SEMINARS PLUS. THEY HAVE HELPED US FOR YEARS IN THE PAST WITH EVALUATION OF THE BIDS AND LOOK AT THE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE.

I WILL SAY THAT THE NUMBERS WE GOT INITIALLY WERE SHOCKING AND YOU HAVE A SPREADSHEET IN THE PACKET THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS THIS BUT WE STARTED OUT WITH OUR CURRENT CARRIER OVERING A 20.6 INCREASE. IN TALKING WITH OTHER CITIES. IF WE DID A STRAIGHT BID AND NOT NEGOTIATED, THAT WAS IN LINE WITH OTHER CITIES. WE DID NOT TAKE THAT.

WE WENT BACK AND HAD A SECOND ROUND OF BIDS AND THEN, WE DID WE STARTED NEGOTIATING.

WE MODIFIED THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AND OFFERINGS WE HAD, AND WE LOOKED AT DEDUCTIBLES PARTICULARLY IN THE OUT OF NETWORK. AND CHANGES TO EMERGENCY.

AND WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE GOT TO THE POINT WE HAD A QUOTE FROM CIGNA WHO WAS EIGHT ONE 18 COVERAGE. WE LOOKED AT CIGNA, BLUE CROSS AND UNITED HEALTHCARE.

OFFERING OF BENEFITS. I WILL TELL YOU THEY WERE OTHER OFFERINGS THAT CAME IN.

WE HAD A SELF INSURANCE OFFERING FOR MEDICAL THAT HAD A BRIDGE TYPE COVERING.

THAT WE OFFER SOMEWHAT WITH AFLAC WITH EMPLOYEE CAN PURCHASE WITHOUT CONTRIBUTION BY THE CITY. AND THEN THAT AND MY MIND, KIND OF WAS SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T REALLY FIT WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THE CITY. BECAUSE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE FOR THAT.

AND THE INHERENT RISK THAT YOU HAVE COMPARISON TO A FULLY INSURED.

WE PUT IN OUR RFP WE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE. WHEN WE SAT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE RISK. WE DECIDED THAT COMBINED WITH ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY WE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE ON THAT RISK AS A CITY. WE ALSO HAD AN, AN HMO OFFERING FOR A GROUP THAT WE CAN ONLY GO TO THEIR LOCATIONS AND WE WON'T HAVE A FACILITY OR A HOSPITAL IN TOWN THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT HMO. WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.

JUST FOR FULL DISCLOSURE ON ALL OF THAT. SO YOU CAN TELL THAT WE DO HAVE SOME CHANGES IN THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. THE CITY WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS PROPOSED PLAN TO PAY 100% OF THE EMPLOYEE INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR THE BASE COVERAGE AND MAINTAIN THAT 65-35 SPLIT FOR DEPENDENT COVERAGE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT ALSO IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER CITIES IN OUR AREA. AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMPENSATION PACKAGE TO STAY COMPETITIVE. THE DENTAL COVERAGE, THAT ONE

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ALL OF THESE PLANS ARE INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET. THEY WERE BUDGETED ADEQUATELY TO COVER THE COST AS IT HAS COME BACK IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS. AND YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM BENEFITS AS THEIR INSURANCE EXPERTS.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR LOSS RATIOS HAVE BEEN PRETTY HIGH THIS YEAR AGAIN.

WE HAD EVENTS AND THAT WOULD BE WHY OUR INCREASES HAVE OCCURRED. SO.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR US.

SATISFIED THE COVERAGE IS WHAT WE NEED AND COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE HAVE?

>> I THINK, YOU KNOW THERE'S VERY LITTLE IMPACT TO THE EMPLOYEES.

YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE A LOWER, THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY, IF YOU'RE A LOWER PAID EMPLOYEE AND YOU HAVE EMPLOYEE PLUS FAMILY, AND YOU DO, IT'S GOING TO BE, IF YOU HAVE A CATASTROPHIC EVENT LIKE YOU ARE ALL IN A CAR WRECK AND ALL IN THE HOSPITAL AND YOU ALL MEET YOUR CAP, THEN IT MIGHT HURT A LITTLE BIT. OR IF YOU HAVE A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM IT'S GOING TO HURT A LITTLE MORE. BUT I THINK IN GENERAL, OUR BENEFITS ARE VERY COMPARABLE.

SO I DON'T THINK WE HURT THE PLAN VERY MUCH AND WE HAVE NOT COST THE EMPLOYEES A WHOLE LOT

MORE FOR THAT. >> THE MEDICAL SAVINGS PLAN, DOES THAT COVER PART OF

DEDUCTIBLE? >> THE FLEXIBLE SAVING ACCOUNT? >> YOU CAN USE THAT TO COVER YOUR, I BELIEVE IT'S 2650, $2,700. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY CAN COVER YOUR COPAYS, YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS, IF YOU GET TO A POINT THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE HAVING SOME COVERAGE THAT APPLIES AGAINST YOUR DEDUCTIBLE, IT CAN BE USED FOR THAT.

THAT HELPS. YOU KNOW I THINK IT GOES UP 50 OR $100 EVERY YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SURE EXACT NUMBER. THAT WOULD HELP WITH THAT.

NOW IF YOU, I WILL SAY YOUR DEDUCTIBLE IS OR A LITTLE HIGHER THAN CURRENT, IT'S BUT I DON'T THINK SO IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY HIGHER. WE ARE NOT IN A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN. A FEW YEARS AGO, IT WAS $500 DEDUCTIBLE.

WE HAVE TO FUNCTION IN SHOULD ENVIRONMENT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN AND

COVERING THE EMPLOYEE FAIRLY. >> AND THE BUDGET NUMBERS WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT, MORE THAN

COVERS? >> YES IT COVERS THIS. >> COUNCIL.

>> I MOVE TO PROVE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECONDED. PASSES 6-0. >> THAT WAS A HARD PROCESS.

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>> ITEM 2020-282, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AMENDING THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN CURRENT CERTIFICATION

PAY PLAN SCHEDULE. >> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY DEFERRED. THIS IS A PLAN THAT IT'S A COMPONENT OF OUR COMPENSATION AND GENERALLY THE ITEMS ON HERE ARE IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE SETTING THE SALARY FOR SOMEONE. THEY'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND.

SO WE HAVE ADDED A FEW THINGS TO THIS. SOME BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE

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AND THAT WE HAVE NEW EMPLOYEES. MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE TECHNICAL AND PROFESSIONAL AREA.

HOWEVER WE HAVE SEVERAL IN POLICE AND FIRE. I WOULD BE GLAD TO TALK ABOUT THOSE. BUT, BASICALLY, IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO IMPROVE, BE ABLE TO SERVE THE CITY BETTER AND HELP POTENTIALLY TO SLOW TURN OVER.

PARTICULARLY IN PUBLIC SAFETY. SO. YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I LOOK AT IT. I'M SURE IT'S NOT INCLUSIVE. I ALREADY KNOW ONE I DIDN'T INCLUDE. BUT, IT'S SOMETHING I HOPE THAT WE REVIEW EVERY YEAR AND WHETHER WE BRING IT TO YOU OR NOT, REVIEW ON A CONTINUING BASES BECAUSE THE NAMES OF THE CERTIFICATIONS HAVE CHANGED IN COME CASES. BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> HOW MANY DOLLARS ARE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> VERY MINIMAL.

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVEN'T HEARD HAD ONE BEFORE. THE TOTAL MAXIMUM FOR ANY ONE PERSON TO GET IS $2,400 A YEAR. SO, ANY ONE OF THESE, SOME OF THEM ARE AS LOW AS $50 OR $20 A MONTH. AND SOME OF THEM RANGE UP TO THE 2 HUNDRED A MONTH.

IF YOU HAVE A DOCTORATE DEGREE, IF YOUR JOB DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, WE WILL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA $2,400 FOR THAT. BUT, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE INCENTIVE TO ADD. >> LESS THAN $10,000.

>> WELL, >> IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY EMPLOYEES TAKE ADVANTAGE.

>> A LOT OF THEM ALREADY. >> GUESSTIMATE IS ALL I'M ASKING FOR.

>> I REALLY DON'T KNOW ACROSS THE CITY HOW MUCH IT IS. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY,

I WOULD HAVE TO JUST GUESS. >> AND A LOT OF EMPLOYEES ARE ALREADY TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THEM

AND SOME OF THEM ARE MAXED OUT. EVEN IF THEY HAVE A NEW ONE. >> CHRIS AND I FOR EXAMPLE.

WE'RE CPAS, THAT GIVES YOU THE $200 MAX. IF I GET THE ADA CERTIFICATION, I DON'T GET ANYMORE OR THE CPM OR WHATEVER. IT'S JUST ANOTHER THING FOR

THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE SOME THINGS TO HELP THEM. >> IT'S A CREATIVE WAY TO TRY TO KEEP AND RECRUIT THE BEST OF BEST FOR THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. AND THEN ALSO STAY BUDGET

CONSCIOUS AT THE SAME TIME. >> IT REALLY DOES OVERALL NOT COST VERY MUCH AT ALL.

I JUST DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE ON IT. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ITEM PASSES 6-0. 2020-283, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON

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THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S BEING FORGIVEN, JUST ADDED TO THE PRINCIPLE.

>> AND MCDC STILL FALLING IN LINE WITH WHAT THE BANK IS DOING?

>> YES. THAT'S WHY THIS IS BROUGHT FORWARD AS THE BANK EXTENDED.

SO THEY EXTENDED THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, ANN. >> ITEM 2020-284, VIEW AND

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DISTRICT AND DIRECT STAFF AS NECESSARY. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU RECALL IN JULY 7TH, WE HAD A WORKSHOP WITH REDDEN FARMS IN THE DEVELOPERS. THEY TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT AMENITIES PACKAGES WERE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORTH. THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

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JOE, CHRIS, MARY PETTY. OUR BOND COUNSEL TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE PID ACROSS THE GOAL LINE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR REDDEN FARMS TO COME TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING 8-25.

JEFF WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE AMENITY PACKAGE AND GO THROUGH THAT.

>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR. I AM JEFF KENNYMER.

I WORK FOR HYNES DEVELOPMENT. 2200 ROSS AVENUE IN DALLAS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT ON REDDEN FARMS. I'M HERE WITH GENTLEMEN NAMED DANIEL TWIG AS WELL.

SO HE MAY BE OFFERING SOME OF THE ANSWERS ALSO. REAL QUICK INTRODUCTION TO HYNES. HYNES IS A UPSCALE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY BUILDER.

WE DO ALL KINDS OF PRODUCTS, INTERNATIONAL FIRM WE DO OFFICE BUILDINGS, HOTELS, RETAIL.

INDUSTRIAL, BUT THE GROUP THAT I'M IN, THE NICHE THAT WE FOCUS IS ON DEVELOPING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE ABOUT 17,000 LOTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON IN DFW AND OTHER MARKETS IN THE SOUTHWEST. OUR FOUNDER, GERALD HYNES BELIEVES IN QUALITY AND PROTECTING OUR BRAND. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM. I THINK IF YOU WILL LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE HINES.COM, YOU WILL SEE THE LEVEL OF QUALITY THE FIRM BELIEVES IN AND TERMS OF ITS DEVELOPMENT.

I AM ATTRACTED TO MIDLOTHIAN. MY PARENTS LIVE JUST A LITTLE EAST OF HERE.

THEY HAVE A FARM THEY RAISE CATTLE AND SO FORTH. GO TO CHURCH IN MIDLOTHIAN.

I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO BE ABLE IT ON DEVELOP HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO, AS I START OFF, I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A POWER POINT. THESE ARE A COUPLE OF PICTURES. THAT ONE IS HUNG BETWEEN SLIDES.

THESE ARE A COUPLE PICTURES FROM THE ORIGINAL REDDEN FARMS THAT WAS A DAIRY FARM.

OUR INTENT IS TO CAPTURE THE VISION AND NATURAL ASPECTS OF THE LAND.

WE WANT TO HANG ON TO THE LEGACY OF REDDEN FARMS IN TERMS OF HOW WE DEVELOP.

THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE. APOLOGIZE IT'S HANGING IN BETWEEN SLIDES.

THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF REDDEN FARMS. AS WE -- AS WE DEVELOP THE AMENITIES IN REDDEN FARMS, WE WILL USE ELEMENTS OF GRAIN SILO AND THE BARN.

THIS IS A PICTURE, A SKETCH OF OUR VISIONING FOR THE MAIN ENTRY OFF 1387.

WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A GRAIN SILO, PUT REDDEN FARMS ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT AND YOU CAN SEE NEXT TO, WE WILL BUILD THE SIDEWALK THERE BY THE ENTRY WILL GO THROUGH A, IT WILL GO THROUGH A WALK THROUGH BARN. SORT OF A SAME KIND OF IMAGE AS A COVERED BRIDGE.

COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO, THIS PICTURE GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE, WE'RE GOING TO USE ELEMENTS OF MODERN FARM HOUSE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND AMENITIES.

YOU WILL SEE FEATURES LIKE THIS BUILT INTO THE AMENITIES WE WILL HAVE.

SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY WILL REDDEN FARMS BE A BETTER MASTER PLAN BECAUSE OF THE PID? WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH REDDEN FARMS ASK YOU APPROVE US TO HAVE A PID.

I WALK THROUGH BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PID, WE WILL HAVE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE OPEN SPACE AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS. WE WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC ROUNDABOUT. IT WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WILL BE AN EXTENSIVE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS. OVER 56 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

WE WILL BUILD WORK OUT STATIONS LONG THE TRAILS AS WELL AS REST STATIONS.

WE WILL HAVE A RESORT STYLE POOL WITH CABANA AND SPLASH PAD. THAT WILL BE THE MAIN RECREATIONAL AREA. THIS WILL BE A SECOND AREA. IN THIS COMMUNITY WE WILL HAVE A GATED AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR 55 PLUS ONLY. IT WILL BE AGE RESTRICTED AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SEPARATE CLUB HOUSE WITH PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THE AGE RESTRICTED

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THE PD WE HAVE FOR REDDEN FARMS CURRENTLY REQUIRES A HIGH-LEVEL AMENITIES.

WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO BUILD TO THIS LEVEL OF AMENITIES IN REDDEN FARMS. BY WAY OF COMPARISON, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HAVE SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC FINANCING.

PRAIRIE RIDGE HAS A FRESH WATER SUPPLY DISTRICT WHERE THE ASSESSMENTS ARE $1 PER HUNDRED.

WE'RE PROPOSING $0.48 FOR 100. HAWKINS MEADOWS HAS A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, BRIDGEWATER HAS A DISTRICT AS WELL. I BELIEVE IT'S A PID. I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE.

WITH THE ESTIMATED ASSESSMENT BETWEEN OVERALL TAX RATE BETWEEN 320.

REGARDLESS, AND PEOPLE USE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, SOME PEOPLE USE PIDS.

SOME PEOPLE USE FRESH WATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS. MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS.

THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC FINANCING VEHICLES THAT ALLOW FOR PART OF THE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE FINANCED THROUGH LOW COST BONDS. THIS SHOWS YOU WHERE THE PARTICULAR AMENITIES ARE GOING TO BE. THE MAIN RESORTS STYLE POOL AND CABANA AND SPLASH PAD IS GOING TO BE IN THE CENTER HERE. AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE EXERCISE STATIONS THAT WILL BE ALONG THE TRAILS. THERE WILL BE A TRAIL THAT RUNS LINEAR ACROSS THE WATER UTILITY EASEMENT. IT WILL ALSO HAVE TRAILS THAT GO UP THROUGH THE GREEN BELT.

NORTH TO SOUTH IN THIS DIRECTION AS WELL. THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE HERE OF THE WORK OUT STATION ALONG IT IS TRAIL. THIS IS THE PICKLEBALL COURT.

THE LOTS IN YELLOW WILL BE THE AGE TARGETED LOTS. RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE, YOU WILL HAVE A CLUB HOUSE AND THEN WE WILL HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THIS AREA ALSO FOR THE AGE RESTRICTED HOMES. THIS IS PICTURE OF THE DOG PARK. WHICH WILL BE LOCATED -- CAN YOU SLIDE THE SCREEN UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS HERE AND HERE. THERE WILL BE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

THERE WILL BE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT WILL BE LOCATED IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. AGAIN, THESE ARE GOING OVER AMENITIES AND CLEARER PICTURES A LITTLE LARGER. THIS IS THE MAIN RESORT STYLE POOL WITH THE SPLASH PAD AND THE CABANA. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE CLUB HOUSE FOR THE AGE RESTRICTED AREA. THESE ARE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE DOG PARK WILL LOOK LIKE. THIS IS AN IDEA OF THE, THERE'S THREE PARKS. THIS IS PARK NUMBER ONE. THIS IS THE SECOND PARK.

AND THEN THIS IS THE THIRD PARK. ACTUALLY I WAS IN ARKANSAS, VISITING MY DAUGHTER IN FAYETTEVILLE AND WE WERE HAVING A PICNIC AND YOU LOOKED AT THE PLAY GROUND.

IT'S A SICKNESS AS A DEVELOPER. I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE AMENITIES.

I LOVE THIS PARTICULAR PARK AND WOULD LIKE TO DO A PLAY GROUND SIMILAR TO THIS.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AND THE RED DOTS SHOW YOU THE LOCATIONS OF THE, SHOW YOU THE LOCATIONS OF THE REST AREAS. AND THE WORK OUT STATIONS.

AGAIN THESE ARE JUST PICTURES PEOPLE YOU KNOW REPRESENTATIVE GOING UP AND DOWN THE BIKING

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AGAIN, EXAMPLES OF WORK OUT EQUIPMENT ALONG THE JOGGING AND BIKING TRAILS AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWO COLLECTOR ROADS.

IN THE MIDDLE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO, IN SUMMARY, THIS IS JUST A SHEET THAT SHOWS THE PD REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED UNDER THE PD TO BUILD THIS QUALITY AND THIS LEVEL OF AMENITIES IN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE FINAL SLIDE I WANTED TO SHOW YOU, THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY. SHOWS YOU TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST FOR REDDEN FARMS WOULD BE ABOUT JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER $59 MILLION OF WHICH $46.5 MILLION WILL BE FUNDED BY THE DEVELOPER AND TW 12.3 THROUGH PID. AND I GUESS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT THE PID. AND I ASSURE YOU THAT HINES WILL BUILD A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT THE TOWN OF MIDLOTHIAN WOULD BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF. I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

>> CHILDREN CAN VISIT, THERE ARE RULES HOW LONG THEY CAN STAY IF THEY'RE LESS THAN 55.

YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO BE 55 OR OLDER. THERE ARE PERIODS OF VISITATION BUT NOT TO LIVE THIS.

I AM GOING TO HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT AND --

>> LET ME FIND OUT MAYOR AND I WILL CIRCLE BACK AND GIVE YOU AN EXACT ANSWER IN TERMS OF TIME.

>> IT'S A DEED RESTRICTION THAT MAKES IT TIME. >> THE ONLY WAY IT'S ABLE TO GET ENFORCED IS IF THE CITY CALLS IT IN. THE CITY DOES NOT ENFORCE DEED RESTRICTIONS. MY QUESTION IS ON THE PHASING, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

I WILL TRY TO TALK ABOUT THEM FAST. ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD THE PARKS IN THE PHASE ONE AS YOU BUILD PHASE ONE OR COME BACK AND ADD THOSE AFTER YOU BUILD PHASE TWO? BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIKE, I WAS TRYING TO COUNT BEFORE YOU SWITCHED.

SIX OR SEVEN PARKS THROUGHOUT. >> THE PHASE ONE IS GOING TO HAVE THE LARGE AMENITY CENTER, RESORT STYLE POOL, SPLASH PAD AND SO FORTH. IT WILL ALSO PHASE ONE OF THE AGE RESTRICTED AREA. IS ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE CLUB HOUSE AND THE PICKLEBALL COURT.

AND THEN ALSO IN PHASE ONE, WILL BE ONE OF THE PLAYGROUNDS IN ADDITION TO THAT.

WE WILL DO SOME OF THE TRAILS AND AS WE BUILD FUTURE PHASES, WILL BUILD OUT THE REST OF THE PLAYGROUNDS LOCATED IN THAT PHASE. THE HEAVY LIFTING IS IN THE INITIAL PHASE. YOU REALLY NEED THAT FOR MARKETING.

>> MY SECOND QUESTION IS MORE DIRECTED AT STAFF. ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE RENDERINGS, THOSE ARE REALLY NICE PICTURES THAT MEET WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD.

LIKE WE DID ON THE SUBDIVISION TONIGHT WHERE THEY HAD TO PROVIDE RENDERINGS OF THEIR AMENITIES TO GO WITH THEIR, WELL IT'S NOT WITH THEIR PD. HOW DO WE ATTACH TO MAKE SURE

IT'S A HIGH-QUALITY AMENITY. >> NOT SAYING YOU WANT IT.

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>> WE HAVE NOT DONE THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS YET. >> 90% OF TIME, IF NOT 100% OF

THE TIME, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE RENDERING IN THE PD DOCUMENTS. >> I WAS JUST -- FOR AND REASON ON, NOT BAY HARBOR, I'M THINKING OF HIGH VIEW. BRIDGEWATER, WHEN WE SAID WE NEEDED RENDERINGS SO WE HAD SOMETHING TO HOLD THEM TO, IS THAT NOT THE SAME IN IN CASE?

>> THEY'RE IN THE GOING TO DO ANYTHING MORE DETAILED. >> OKAY.

BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WE SAID EARLIER, [INAUDIBLE]

>> THEY CAN SUPPLY THE RENDERINGS AND WE WOULD LOOK FOR THE RENDERINGS.

>> RIGHT. I'M NOT WORRIED IT REQUIRES X NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET.

>> WE CAN ALSO PUT IT IN THOSE CONCEPT PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE ONE SLIDE WHERE HE POINTS TO THE AMENITIES. >>

>> THE TRAIL SYSTEM, IS IT CONCRETE TRAILS? >> YEAH.

CONCRETE TRAILS. >> WHAT IS THE TIMELINE GUYS THAT WE MIGHT EXPECT THIS TO

COME BEFORE COUNCIL? >> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CAN COME AS EARLY AS AUGUST 25TH.

THE PID -- THE PD -- >> WE'RE READY TO GO AS SOON AS WE GET THE PID APPROVED ON.

MY BUILDERS ARE CHOMPING ON THE THE BIT. THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS

ALREADY APPROVED. >> GOT YOU. >> MAKE SENSE WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AMENITIES. ALL OF THE, WE WANT, YOU KNOW, THE HIKING AND BIKING TRAILS, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PUBLIC. HOWEVER THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

THE AMENITY CENTER WILL BE HOA OWNED. >> I THINK WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND JOE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IN THE PD, CALLS FOR ALL OTHER OPEN SPACE TO BE PRIVATE. BUT WE WOULD LIKE AS HE MENTIONED, WE WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL. WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A PUBLIC EASEMENT ACROSS THAT SO THE HIKING AND BIKING TRAIL WOULD BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA BUT YOU HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS

EASEMENT SO PEOPLE CAN USE IT. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE CONNECTED TO THE LARGER TRAIL.

BY THE DEVELOPER AND PID. SO JUST DELINEATE -- >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

ON THE AMENITIES SIDE, ARE Y'ALL BASICALLY STATING THAT WE WILL BASICALLY WILL HAVE AN AMENITY PACKAGE THAT WE WILL BE AWARE OF BUT THE DEPTH OF THE AMENITIES AND THE NUMBER OF EACH AMENITY

WE WON'T KNOW FOLLOW YOU GET FURTHER INTO IT? >> IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

>> THE AMENITY PACKAGE HAS BEEN APPROVED. >> IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE.

THROUGH THE PD, MY HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE AMENITIES. >> YOU'RE TALKING -- SO WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED WHAT HE'S SHOWING THERE. THESE ARE JUST DETAILS.

IT CALLS FOR AMENITY CENTER IN THE FIRST PHASE AND HE GOES INTO MORE DETAILS.

THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. A SPLASH PAD AND SWIMMING POOL. THIS WILL GO ALONG WITH THE

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DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND JUST TO FURTHER REITERATE. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT AND WHATEVER WE'RE PROVIDING TO HELP THEM ON THE FUNDING SIDE, THAT WE DON'T, THERE'S NOT A WAY IN WHICH THEY WILL MAKE A LARGE GAIN ON REVENUE NEEDS TO INVEST INTO AND SOMEHOW WE END UP ON THE SHORT END OF AMENITIES BECAUSE THAT'S LATER IN THE GAME.

>> WE'RE COVERED. >> YOU WILL CONTROL US THROUGH THE PD WHERE WE WILL HAVE NO

CHOICE. >> KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. KEEP WORKING ON IT.

>> THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.