Aug 25, 2020 City Council

[Call to Order, Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance]

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>>> I CALL THE MIDLOTHIAN CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

IF COUNCILMAN ROGERS WILL LEAD US IN PRAYER IN PLEDGES.

>> JOIN ME AS WE PRAY. >> WE'RE BLESSED TO BE HERE TONIGHT AS A COMMUNITY TO GATHER TOGETHER.

WE JUST ASK LORD YOU WOULD LEAD US IN EACH OF THE ITEMS WE'LL DISCUSS THIS EVENING AND GUIDE US IN WAYS OF YOUR WISDOM AND THAT WE WOULD HONOR EACH OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS IN WAYS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

WE PRAY LORD FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND BLESSING THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS AT A TIME WHEN OUR NATION IS GOING THROUGH A GOOD BIT OF CIVIL UNREST. WE PRAY FOR OUR NATION AS A WHOLE FOR HEALING AND WISDOM AND TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELVES. WE JUST ASK LORD THAT YOU WOULD BLESS US IN ALL THAT WE DO AS A CITY COUNCIL AND AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS KEEP ALL THAT'S IN MIND THAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. BLESS US IN COVID AND ALL OF THOSE INTERACTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THAT AT THIS TIME ALSO, LORD. BLESS US THROUGHOUT THE BALANCE OF THIS WEEK THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS WALK IN A WAY PLEASING TO YOU. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE

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AND INDIVISIBLE. >> IF KEVIN CUNNINGHAM FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL PLEASE COME FOR FORWARD. I'M DOING WELL, KEVIN.

HOW ARE YOU? THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT WEEK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE NEW FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE

IS, BEAUTIFUL, YEAH. >> VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT

THAT'S FOR SURE. >> SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ONE MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE MIDLOTHIAN FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR RECEIVING THE EMS GOLD PLUS AWARD FROM THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION. AS RECIPIENTS OF THIS AWARD, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PART OF AN ELITE GROUP OF PREHOSPITAL AGENCIES RECOGNIZED BY THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION.

THIS AWARD ACKNOWLEDGES YOUR COMMITMENT TO AND SUCCESS IN IMPLEMENTING A HIGHER STANDARD OF PREHOSPITAL CARE BY ENSURING THAT EVERY PATIENT EXPERIENCING A SEVERE HEART ATTACK RECEIVES STANDARDS FROM OUR MERCY MEDICAL SERVICE RESPONDERS TREATMENT ACCORDING TO NATIONALLY ACCEPTED RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO CHIEF MCCASKILL AND EMS BATTALION CHIEF CUNNINGHAM ON THIS ACHIEVEMENT.

IT WAS WELL EARNED AND WELL HONORED.

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AND WHEREAS AFTER PROUDLY SERVING HIS DISTRICT OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS REPRESENTATIVE WRAY ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT

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NOW THEREFORE I, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THURSDAY, AUGUST 27, 2020, AS JOHN WRAY DAY IN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE CITY COUNCIL IN CONGRATULATING JOHN FOR HIS SERVICE AND DEDICATION HE HAS RENDERED TO THIS COMMUNITY.

JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>> ON BEHALF OF MIDLOTHIAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, FIRST WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS. ALSO I HAVE GREETINGS FROM SENATOR TED CRUZ WHO IS SPEAKING AT OUR LEGISLATIVE SERIES TOMORROW AND HE WANTED TO BE A PART OF THIS TONIGHT WHEN WE WERE HONORING YOU. AND SO ON BEHALF OF THE MIDLOTHIAN CHAMBER AND SENATOR CRUZ I'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU ALL.

>>> ITEM 2020-290, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROCLAMATION.

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PROCLAMATION WHEREAS THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION IS SPONSORING UNIQUE NATIONWIDE CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAM ON OCTOBER 6, 2020, ENTITLED NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND WHEREAS THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN TO JOIN FORCES WITH THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN PROMOTING COOPERATIVE POLICE COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN BE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND THE IMPACT THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION CAN HAVE ON REDUCING CRIME IN THE CITY.

AND WHEREAS CRIME AND DRUG PREVENTION AWARENESS SUPPORT PARTICIPATION AT LOCAL AND ANTICRIME EFFORTS, STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOOD SPIRIT AND POLICE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, AND SENDING A MESSAGE TO CRIMINALS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ORGANIZED IN FIGHTING BACK ARE IMPORTANT THINGS IN THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROGRAM. AND WHEREAS PARTICIPATION BE AS SIMPLE AS TURNING ON THE FRONT PORCH LIGHT, PLANNING A NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK EVENT FOR OCTOBER 6, 2020, OR ATTENDING A NATIONAL NIGHT OUT KICK OFF EVENT AT MIDLOTHIAN COMMUNITY PARK ON SEPTEMBER 5, 2020. THEREFORE I RICHARD RENO, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS THE 25TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2020, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 6, 2020, AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT 2020 IN MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS. AND HEREBY CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TOWN WATCH IN SUPPORTING THE ANNUAL NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

SIGNED RICHARD RENO, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 2020-291, CITIZENS TO BE

[Citizens to be heard]

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SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP.

LAURA FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

MY NAME IS LAURA. I LIVE AT 2429 MOON DANCE LANE HERE IN MIDLOTHIAN. I AM THE CEO OF YOUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. OUR 2020 LEGISLATIVE SERIES IS MIDWAY. TOMORROW WE ARE HONORED TO BE HOSTING SENATOR TED CRUZ AS OUR THIRD SPEAKER IN OUR SERIES.

HE'LL BE SPEAKING AT 2:00. IT WILL BE A WEBINAR.

SO WE WOULD LOVE YOU AND THE CITIZENS OF MIDLOTHIAN TO JOIN US ON THAT WEBINAR AND HEAR FROM OUR SENATOR.

AND THEN ON THURSDAY WE WILL HONOR OUR OUTGOING STATE REPRESENTATIVE JOHN WRAY AND WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR CANDIDATE ELECT JAKE ELSEY ON THURSDAY AT 11:00.

SO WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL JOIN US FOR THESE TWO WEBINARS, HEAR FROM OUR LOCAL AND STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIZENS WHO WISH TO BE HEARD AT THIS TIME? THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NORMALLY

[Consent Agenda]

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> MOTION TO ACCEPT.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 6-0. PUBLIC HEARING I OPEN ITEM

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TRENT? >> THANK YOU.

NEW COMMERCIAL ZONING ORDINANCE, WHEN A PROPERTY IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY LIMITS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GET AN OFFICIAL ZONING DESIGNATION TO THE PRONTO.

WHEN THEY'RE FIRST ANNEXED IN THE CITY, THEY'RE GIVEN A TEMPORARY AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ZONING DESIGNATION.

AS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS VOLUNTARY ANNEXATIONS WE'VE HAD AS OF LATE, THIS PROPERTY IS REQUESTING THAT PERMIT ZONING DISTRICT FROM TEMPORARY AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. THE LOT IS APPROXIMATELY 11.013 ACRES. 0 CAME BACK IN FAVOR, 0 CAME BACK IN OPPOSITION. WHEN THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL 6-0.

AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOTION AND CLOSE PLEASE. MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM IS CLOSED. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR --

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 6-0. PUBLIC ITEM NUMBER 2020-295.

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TRENT? >> THANK YOU.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF 14TH STREET AND JUST SOUTH OF MT. ZION ROAD. WHEN THEY CAME IN TO ORIGINALLY

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THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE 97 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING LOTS. THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES LOCATED TO THE EAST IS ON AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. THAT ALLOWS FOR ONE UNIT PER EVERY FOUR YEARS. ONE TO THE NORTH OF IT IS PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL. TO THE SOUTH IS WHERE THE FUTURE MISD SITE IS FOR ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

PD68 IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH STRIPPED ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.

AND THIS PORTION OF PD81 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL INTO THE NORTH TO ALLOW FOR MEDICAL OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES.

PROPOSED REQUEST FOR THE DWELLING UNIT IS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT THE MINIMUM LOT WOULD BE 45 FEET FOR CORNER LOTS AND 40 FEET IF IT'S AN INTERIOR LOT.

THE AVERAGE MINIMUM LOT AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 4,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. ON THIS LIST THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU IS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT SHOWING THE SETBACKS, REAR YARD SETBACKS FOR LOTS AB, LOTS 1-9, THEN LOTS C AND D. THIS WENT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ORIGINALLY. THIS ACTUALLY HAD AN ALLEY FOR ACCESS. THERE WAS A PROPERTY OWNER THAT CAME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND REQUESTED TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THEY SAID THEY WANTED SOME KIND OF BACK EDGE ABUTTING THEIR SWIMMING POOL. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO PUSH THESE LOTS, GET RID OF THE ALLEY, AND REQUIRE A 6-FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE WITH TOP CAP AND KICK PLATE TO ALLOW THE ADDITIONAL PRIVACY TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

THE DEVELOPER DID IMMEDIATELY SUBMIT REVISIONS TO SHOW THAT CHANGE. ONE OF THEIR ORIGINAL PLANS WAS TO ACTUALLY NOT HAVE AN ALLEY BACK HERE.

WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, IN OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, WE USUALLY REQUIRE 5% OF THE AREA TO BE OPEN SPACE OR FIVE ACRES WHICHEVER IS GREATER. IN THIS CASE THE APPROXIMATE OPEN SPACE IS APPROXIMATELY 3.65 ACRES.

HOWEVER IT'S APPROXIMATELY 17% OF THE LAND AREA IS BEING USED FOR OPEN SPACE. THE WAY THEY'RE USING THEIR OPEN SPACE IS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT WITH POCKET PARKS, TRAIL SYSTEMS, LANDSCAPE MEDIANS, WATER FEATURES, TRAILS GOING AROUND WITH BENCHES AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO USE THIS LITTLE, IT'S CREATING A PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR AS THEY TRAVEL WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. IT MAKES IT SEEM LESS DENSE, MORE LANDSCAPED, MORE AMENTIZED THAN IT DOES SHOW.

AND EACH INGRESS OFF MT. ZION WILL BE FULLY LANDSCAPED, THEY'LL HAVE STAINED CONCRETE, SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPE SIGNAGE.

THAT DOES MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS AND THE SIDEWALK WILL CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ALREADY EXISTING ALONG 14TH.

IT'S DESIGNED TO GO THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

SOMETHING THEY ARE ALSO DOING RECOGNIZING TO AVOID ANY SORT OF ISSUES, THEY WILL BE MEETING OUR LOCAL STREET REQUIREMENTS.

THEY ARE LIGHTING VARIOUS SPOTS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE ON STREET PARKING FOR WHEN THEY HAVE VISITORS, ET CETERA, SO THEY CAN TAKE OFF SOME CONGESTION FROM THE ROADS.

THIS LINEAR PARK RIGHT HERE, THEY HAVE PARKING IN BOTH SIDES.

NEAR THE MEDIANS THEY HAVE PARALLEL PARKING AVAILABLE AS WELL. AND THE PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A FRONT ENTRY IS AROUND THIS WATER FEATURE. SO BLOCK E.

THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION

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THE HEIGHT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR ZONING, TWO AND A HALF STORIES. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THEY ARE REQUESTING 3.37 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

THE ELEVATIONS CANNOT REPEAT WITHIN A DISTANCE OF FIVE BLOCKS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. THEY ALSO MEET OUR ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS.

HERE'S THE PLAN IN THE LANDSCAPE, IF YOU ZOOM IN I BELIEVE ON YOUR PACKAGE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE A LOT MORE DETAIL.

WE GAVE YOU THE HIGH RESOLUTION LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWING YOU HOW HEAVILY LANDSCAPED THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IN ORDER TO INCREASE ADDITIONAL SOFTENING AND CREATE THAT CORRIDOR WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE A THIRD DESIGN AROUND THE PEDESTRIAN RATHER THAN THE AUTOMOBILE. AS YOU COME IN THESE ENTRY WAY FEATURES, ONCE AGAIN ONE OF THE FEATURES THEY ARE HAVING AT EACH ENTRANCE. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE PONDS, THEY WILL HAVE WATER SYSTEMS WHERE THEY HAVE A TRAIL SYSTEM GOING AROUND THAT CONNECTS THE REST OF OUR SIDEWALKS. AND HERE'S THE ADDITIONAL ONE OF THE LINEAR PARK THAT WILL ALSO HAVE THE TRAIL THAT CONNECTS TO THEIR SIDEWALKS AND DEVELOPMENTS.

THEY WILL BE HAVING ONCE AGAIN A WOODEN FENCE ONCE AGAIN ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT DO ABUT OPEN SPACE, THEY'LL HAVE A MASONRY WALL WHERE IT'S REQUIRED. SO THEY ARE BEING CONSISTENT WITH OUR SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. SOME ADDITIONAL FEATURES THEY DO PLAN ON HAVING ON THE ENTRANCE, ONCE AGAIN THEY'LL HAVE THESE OR NATE FEATURES, EVERYTHING DESIGNED DOWN TO THE STREET LIGHTS. STAFF DID SEND OUT NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

THERE WERE 16 NOTICES. WE RECEIVED NOTHING BACK FROM THE PUBLIC EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THE CASE.

AND ONCE AGAIN THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAME AND SPOKE WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WHO SPECIFICALLY SAID THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT BUT WOULD LIKE SOME SORT OF SCREEN BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND THE ABUTTING DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST WHICH IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

IT DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING. CORRECT.

>> 4,000 SQUARE FEET. ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS I'VE HEARD IS THE SIZE OF THE LOTS. AND I'VE BEEN CHOKED UP AT 50S,

NOW WE'RE COMING INTO 40S TOTAL. >> WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS PROPERTY IS SPLIT IN THREE DIFFERENT MODULES. O ONE MODULE MOSTLY CONSISTS OF THE NEW TOWN MODULE WHICH PROMOTES A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL USES IN CONJUNCTION WITH NONRESIDENTIAL USES SUCH AS RETAIL, STORES, AND ACT AS A BUFFERING BETWEEN YOUR HIGHER DENSITY AND YOUR LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH

THE FUTURE LAND USE. >> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS DEALING WITH THE GARAGE DOORS. THE PICTURES OF THE GARAGE DOORS. I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU CAN'T DO

THAT ANYMORE? >> OF THE FRONT?

>> WELL YEAH, THE FACT THAT THE GARAGE IS STICKING OUT.

>> SO WHAT THEY'VE REQUESTED AS PART OF THIS PD IS TO ALLOW FOR FRONT ENTRY GARAGES ONLY IN CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE PLANNED

DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT -- >> A GARAGE IS ONE THING, BUT STICKING A GARAGE THAT CLEAR IN FRONT OF A HOUSE, I THOUGHT WE

CHANGED ALL OF THAT. >> ONCE AGAIN THROUGH PD DEVELOPERS ARE ALLOWED TO REQUEST SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OUR PD REQUIRES. ADJACENT WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT. NOBODY WOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT TO ALLOW FOR THAT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.

>> I'M NOT SAYING -- WELL I DON'T REALLY LIKE FRONT ENTRANCE GARAGES. BUT I THOUGHT WE MADE RULES ON THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE THE GARAGE HAS GOT TO BE AT LEAST FIVE FEET

BEHIND THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. >> WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS.

>> THESE HOUSES RIGHT HERE, THAT'S NOT IT.

THE GARAGE IS OUT FRONT. >> THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT DEVIATE FROM THAT PORTION --

>> I CAN'T -- >> YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID IT AND I

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IS THERE ANY TYPE OF, LIKE I SAID I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.

I CAN'T REALLY TELL WHAT THAT IS.

>> LET ME GET CLOSER TO YOU. SO THE ALLEYWAYS.

SO THE ALLEYWAYS THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND THEY WILL HAVE, IN OUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL THERE'S NO SCREENING REQUIRED.

THEY'RE TECHNICALLY NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE ANY SORT OF SCREENING BUT THEY WILL BE HAVING A WROUGHT IRON FENCE.

CORRECT EXCEPT FOR IN THIS PORTION.

>> AND DO THEY HAVE TWO RETENTION PONDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT OR IS THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE?

>> I'LL REFER TO THE DEVELOPER. I BELIEVE IN THIS AREA THEY DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM -- ONCE AGAIN I'LL REFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY ENGINEER.

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE

FILLED WITH WATER -- >> IT'S GOING TO BE FILLED WITH WATER, THEY WANT TO HAVE WATER FEATURES IN THERE AS WELL.

>> NEAREST ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW IS SORT OF CADDY CORNER TO THIS AND THAT'S LAWSON FARMS I'M ASSUMING?

>> LAWSON FARMS IS FURTHER SOUTH.

RIGHT HERE IS HAWKINS MEADOW. >> WHAT'S THE DENSITY OF HAWKINS

MEADOW, DO YOU KNOW? >> THE SAME DEVELOPER THAT'S DOING THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO WAS THE OWNER --

>> 40-FOOT WIDTHS THERE. >> THEY HAVE A MIXTURE, IT'S HIGHER, LARGER LOTS. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.

IT RANGES FROM, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SLIDES BUT THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF LOT SIZES. BUT THERE'S NONE I BELIEVE, NOTHING OVER HALF AN ACRE ON THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE HAWKINS MEADOWS. THERE'S NOTHING EVEN CLOSE TO

BEING HALF AN ACRE. >> AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS, I KNOW IT CURRENTLY IS A HOME BUT --

>> IT'S ZONED AGRICULTURAL, BUT NORTH OF THAT IT'S PDA1 WHICH IS

COMMERCIAL USES. >> RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS

RETAIL? >> RIGHT NOW THEY CAN DO COMMUNITY RETAIL THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE THING.

>> I'M VERY VISUAL. NUMBERS ARE NOT MY THING BUT I'M VERY VISUAL. SO COMPARED TO MIDTOWN, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE LOT WIDTH IN MIDTOWN WOULD YOU SAY, ARE THOSE 60-FOOT

WIDTHS, 40-FOOT WIDTHS? >> 40 TO 60 IS WHAT I WOULD SAY, THEY HAVE SOME TOWN HOMES THAT ARE LESS THAN THAT.

>> OKAY, THANKS. >> WHERE ARE THE FRONT ENTRY

HOUSES? >> THE FRONT ENTRY PRODUCTS, I APOLOGIZE, ORIGINALLY THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE IN BLOCK E WHICH IS AROUND THIS DETENTION POND WITH A WATER FEATURE.

THEN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY HAD THE CONDITION THAT THESE ONES ALONG BLOCK B ALSO BE ALLOWED TO BE

FRONT ENTRY. >> HOW MANY TOTAL LOTS IS THAT?

>> THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED IS I BELIEVE IT'S 29.

YEAH, 29. IF YOU ACTUALLY COUNT THERE'S ONLY 28. BUT PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDATION WAS 29 EVEN THOUGH IT'S 28.

>> HOW OFTEN CAN A HOUSE BE REPEATED?

>> EVERY FIVE HOUSES AND NOT EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THEY CAN'T REPEAT ON THE SAME SIDE OR OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE

ROAD FIVE HOUSES. >> AT ALL?

>> AT ALL. >> YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR FRONT

ENTRY HOUSES PICTURED. >> THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT OF THIS TYPE OF STYLE THAT THEY WOULD BE.

>> I AGREE WITH WAYNE, BY THE WAY.

>> ABOUT THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGE PROTRUDING THROUGH THE FRONT?

>> THE LOT SIZE. THE GARAGES IN FRONT OF THE

FRONT DOOR. >> I WOULD ASSUME THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE GARAGES IN THAT MANNER BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH

ROOM ON THE LOT. >> THAT'S THE APPLICANT, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUSH BACK THE GARAGE, BUT THAT WOULD BE UP TO

THE APPLICANT. >> IS THAT ALL YOU WERE GOING TO

ASK, MR. MAYOR? >> FOR NOW.

>> JUNE 2016PDA1 CAME OUT OF AG. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND WHAT I'VE TOOK IT IS WHEN WE THREW IT INTO PD81 THIS ENTIRE AREA ON THAT END OF THE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO BE RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL

SIDE, CORRECT? >> FROM WHEN I READ THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IT SAID FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.

OTHER THAN THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT KIND OF

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CONVERSATION -- >> IN OTHER WORDS NOT SINGLE

FAMILY? >> NOT SINGLE FAMILY.

ALL COMMUNITY RETAIL. >> AND OF COURSE ROTATING THAT INTO COMMERCIAL RETAIL IN MARCH OF '18.

I'M GOING TO GUESSTIMATE THE DENSITY OF THE SUBDIVISION JUST TO THE SOUTH AND IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE KIND OF COLORED PLAT, THAT ONE. THIS HAWKINS SPRING I'M GUESSING THAT'S GOING TO AVERAGE AROUND THREE.

>> AROUND THREE. >> THE DENSITY OF THIS THAT'S

BEING PROPOSED, IS THAT 5.04? >> CORRECT, SIR.

>> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR CITY EVEN OVER FOUR RIGHT NOW?

>> MIDTOWN WOULD BE THE CLOSEST THING I COULD THINK OF OFF THE

TOP OF MY HEAD. >> YOU WOULD THINK IT'S ABOVE

FOUR? >> I WOULD THINK SO.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER 40-FOOT WIDE LOTS.

I KNOW WE COULD HENPECK A FEW BUT OF THIS TYPE OF VOLUME AND

DENSITY IN OUR TOWN RIGHT NOW? >> THERE ARE ALREADY

CONSTRUCTED? >> YES, SIR.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN THINK OF WOULD BE THE TOWN HOMES LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE TACO BELL.

>> VERY SMALL SECTOR THOUGH AND IT'S KIND OF OFF TO THE SIDE.

>> I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING CONSTRUCTED YET BESIDES MIDTOWN.

>> THIS IS OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD AGREE A MAIN ENTRY GOING TO THE PARK AND SO FORTH. IT'S KIND OF AN ENTRYWAY.

14TH STREET HAS ALWAYS BEEN LOOKED UPON AND OF COURSE WHEN YOU TAKE 14TH STREET AND EVENTUALLY GO ALL THE WAY TO 875, DO THESE FOLKS OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE, I HEARD YOU SAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A 6-FOOT BOARD ON BOARD, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THERE'S A POOL ABOUT 15 FEET OFF OF THAT FENCE,

CORRECT? >> THAT'S WHAT THEY MENTIONED,

YES. >> DO THESE FOLKS HAVE ANY IDEA, BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET AS A COUNCIL IS FOLKS DON'T THINK THROUGH WHAT TWO STORY HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE LIKE AND THIS ALLOWS TWO AND A HALF STORY HOUSES. I WOULD ASSUME THERE COULD BE A GOOD CHANCE OF THAT DUE TO 45-FOOT LOTS.

DO THESE FOLKS HAVE ANY IDEA THAT LITERALLY THEY COULD BE LOOKING UP AT PEOPLE ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE THAT HAS ANY TYPE OF BALCONY OFF THE BACK OR WANTS TO LOOK OUT THE BACK OF THEIR WINDOW, DO YOU THINK THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT?

>> I COULDN'T ANSWER ON THEIR BEHALF.

>> THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT, ARE THEY?

>> I DON'T SEE THEM. >> I NOTICED ON SETBACKS, WE'VE GOT A FEW HERE. AND LET ME KIND OF LOOK AT THIS REAL QUICK. AND YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OBVIOUSLY ON THIS SIZED LOT. WE'VE GOT A SETBACK.

WHAT DID I DO WITH THAT? OH ON LOTS A, B, C, AND D, THERE'S A FRONT YARD SETBACK OF FIVE FEET.

>> MHM. >> AND ON LOTS D AND E THERE'S A SETBACK OF 18 FEET AND THEN THAT FLIP-FLOPS ON A REAR SETBACK, IT'S 18 FEET SETBACK ON THE A, B, C, AND D.

SO ARE THESE HOUSES GOING TO BE ANY CLOSER TO THE STREET IN SOME

SITUATIONS THAN MIDTOWN? >> POSSIBLY.

>> I KNEW -- SO WE'VE GOT AN ALLEYWAY SET BACK AND IF WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT 18 FEET. I KNOW ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE RUN INTO ON MIDTOWN ON MANY OCCASIONS IS THERE WASN'T ENOUGH SETBACK BACK THERE. SO WE HAD A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE ONE CAR OR EVEN A LONG TRUCK WOULD BE PERHAPS HANGING OVER INTO THE ALLEYWAY WHICH WAS EVEN CAUSES ISSUES WITH OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES. DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO

BE A PROBLEM HERE? >> WE NEVER RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM THE FIRE MARSHALL WHEN HE REVIEWED THIS?

>> DO YOU KNOW IF THE SETBACKS, DO YOU CALL, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WON'T RECALL WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE ON MIDTOWN VERSUS, I WANT TO

SAY THEY WERE LIKE 11 FEET. >> THEY VARIED.

>> SOMETHING TELLS ME THE ONES WE HAD TROUBLE WITH WERE 11-FOOT

RANGE. >> THEIR LOTS VARIED WHETHER IT WAS A VILLAGE VERSUS A TOWN, THEY HAD DIFFERENT BROWNSTONE.

THEY HAD DIFFERENT SETBACKS ON THE LOT.

>> THE ANSWER IS 11 FEET. >> THANKS.

SO OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE GETTING INTO ALLEYWAY SITUATION AGAIN IT WON'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT ESPECIALLY IF WE END UP WITH TWO SMALL VEHICLES OUT THERE TO BE ON THE EDGE.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT EMERGENCY SERVICES, BUT OBVIOUSLY JUST INGRESS AND EGRESS, THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH THE ALLEYWAYS. I SEE THAT THEY'VE GOT A MINIMUM

HOUSE SIZE OF 1500 SQUARE FEET. >> MHM.

>> NOW WITH THIS BEING 40-FOOT WIDE LOTS, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE 1500 SQUARE FEET WOULD FOR SURE BE A MINIMUM.

THEY'RE PLANNING ON GETTING A LOT LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE HOUSES

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ACTUALLY FENCE INSTALLATION. SO I'M USED TO SEEING ABOUT A 70-FOOT WIDE LOT GIVES US ABOUT AN 8-FOOT FENCE FRONT.

AND THE 60-FOOT LOT GIVES US ABOUT A 5-FOOT FENCE FRONT PER HOUSE. WHEN YOU GET DOWN ON A 50-FOOT, ON ONE SIDE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ROOM FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO GET IN FRONT OF, THEY'RE JUMPING OVER THE TOP OF THEIR AC UNIT TO GET UP IN FRONT AND MOW BECAUSE THE FENCE IS RUNNING ALONGSIDE THE AC UNIT. SO WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO 40-FOOT, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE ROOFTOPS COULD BE 4, 5-FOOT APART IS ALL, IN SOME CONDITIONS? WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT

THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE. >> THEY'LL BE CLOSE.

>> I'M TRYING TO GET A VISUALIZE IN MY MIND.

SO 40-FOOT WITH THESE SIZE HOUSES, WE'RE ALMOST GETTING IN THE 0 LOT LINE RANGE. CLOSE.

>> THEY'D STILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES FOR FIRE, ET CETERA.

I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT UNTIL I SAW --

>> I JUST KNOW GOING OFF OF 60-FOOT WIDE FRONTS PROVIDE FOR

ABOUT 10-FOOT BETWEEN HOUSES. >> NO MATTER WHAT THERE WILL BE

TEN FEET NO MATTER WHAT. >> SO THERE WILL BE TEN FEET --

>> RIGHT. >> SO THAT THEN IS WHAT CAUSES THE PROTRUSION PROBABLY OF THE GARAGE, IT'S SQUEEZING THINGS IN

SO THEY'VE GOT TO PROTRUDE -- >> I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE APPLICANT. I DON'T THINK I'LL ANSWER THAT

QUESTION. >> I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

>> I KNOW THAT ON LOTS ADJOINING OPEN SPACES, THEY HAVE TO BE IRON WROUGHT FENCE. WHAT ABOUT THE SIDE FENCE LIKE

ON LOT 23, LOT 14, AND LOT TEN? >> WHICH BLOCK?

>> FIRST ONE BLOCK C LOT 23. BECAUSE THAT ADJOINS HAWKINS AND IF IT'S AN IRON WROUGHT FENCE THAT MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD VIEW.

I CAN SHOW YOU RIGHT HERE. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

>> RIGHT. SO RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE A WROUGHT IRON AND THIS IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE WROUGHT

IRON AS WELL. >> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME FOR THIS LOT RIGHT HERE THAT ADJOINS?

>> CORRECT. >> ON THE THOROUGHFARE FAN WASN'T THE PLAN AT ONE TIME TO TIE THAT MT. ZION ROAD IN

THROUGH THIS SUBDIVISION? >> I BELIEVE THE MT. ZION CONNECTION, MIKE ADAMS IS HERE, IT WILL ACTUALLY COME DOWN LIKE

THAT. >> NOT THE MT. ZION THAT THE CONFERENCE CENTER ON, IT'S THE DEAD END ONE.

>> OH RIGHT HERE, UP HERE? >> YEAH.

BASICALLY HE'S GOING TO COME OUT RIGHT HERE NOT LIKE INTO THE

POOL BUT PRETTY CLOSE. >> I'LL REFER THAT BACK TO MIKE

ADAMS. >> WE'LL LET MIKE COME UP HERE

IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE, SIR. >> ACTUALLY ON THAT THE REALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH MT. ZION IT ACTUALLY COMES DOWN JUST SOUTH OF THIS HOUSE HERE.

>> THE SECONDARY MT. ZION ROAD IS GOING TO GO THAT CUL-DE-SAC

IN. >> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT DRIVE

ULTIMATELY. >> YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BIG MT. ZION THAT GOES IN FRONT OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE ONE THAT GOES TO THE CUL-DE-SAC.

THE OLD ONE. >> WE TALKED ABOUT TAKING THAT AND BRING IT AND TIE IT INTO MT. ZION AND THE ROAD WOULD COME DOWN AND IT'S GOING TO COME SOMEWHERE LIKE THIS DOWN AND AROUND AND BACK UP. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TO THE

SOUTH. >> I REMEMBER OUR DISCUSSIONS

ABOUT THE TELEPHONE TOWER. >> YES, SIR.

>> I'M NOT TRYING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT HOUSE TO FOLLOW THIS, GO TO THE PICTURE, TRENT, THE ONE WITH THE

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WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE -- >> LET ME FIGURE THIS THING OUT.

>> BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS MT. ZION HERE THIS ONE WAS GOING TO COME DOWN RIGHT THROUGH THERE AND COME OUT THERE.

>> WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT HIT SOMEWHERE DOWN HERE BECAUSE THE INTENT WAS FOR IT TO COME DOWN AND SWING UP AND DO

SOMETHING LIKE THIS. >> WE COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE TOWER IS HERE, THE GUIDE WIRES TAKE ALL OF THIS SPACE UP.

YOU'VE GOT THE DAM THAT'S RIGHT HERE AND THIS IS ALL LOW WATER THROUGH HERE. SO I THOUGHT THE ORIGINAL TENT WAS TO COME BASICALLY DOWN HIS DRIVEWAY AND COME STRAIGHT OUT

THROUGH THERE. >> NO, NOT TO TIE IT BACK INTO 14TH STREET AGAIN. AND AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT CONCEPTUALLY IS REALLY BRINGING THIS SEGMENT OF MT. ZION BACK DOWN COMING DOWN THIS IS CITY PROPERTY HERE COMING DOWN TO THE SIDE OF THE DAM AND BRINGING THIS AROUND

LIKE THIS. >> OKAY.

>> BECAUSE WE DO, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, COUNCILMAN, YOU HAVE THE GUIDE WIRES, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THEM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE SCHOOL BENDING DOWN. SO THIS ROAD WAS INTENDING TO COME AROUND AND THAT WOULD TIE INTO MT. ZION MIDLOTHIAN

PARKWAY. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WENT STRAIGHT THROUGH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL INTENTS WAS TO GO STRAIGHT THROUGH THAT PIECE OF

PROPERTY. >> THE ORIGINAL WAS THAT THIS WOULD CONTINUE HERE IF THIS HOME WASN'T HERE THIS WOULD CONTINUE AND COME RIGHT AROUND. AND YOU CAN GET AROUND THOSE THROUGH HERE AND AROUND. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AS A MATTER OF FACT IN REGARDS TO THE ALIGNMENT AND TRYING TO GET THIS TO WORK AND TO COME BACK IN BECAUSE THIS IS THE BEST PLACE FOR IT TO TIE INTO.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST REFERRING BACK TO BECAUSE TO MAKE IT SELLABLE FOR THE REST OF THAT PROPERTY, THAT MT. ZION ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE WOULD MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE AND BE A BETTER SALE FOR EVERYBODY.

BUT OKAY. >> SO MIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO CONNECT THE TWO MT. ZIONS WITH THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD?

>> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A POSSIBILITY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT FROM AN ALIGNMENT STANDPOINT IS HOW WE CAN GET THIS FROM THIS AREA DOWN TO HERE.

AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS TO BRING THE EXISTING MT. ZION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY TIED BACK IN AND HAD THE S CURVE LIKE THIS, BRINGING THAT BACK, TYING THAT INTO MT. ZION HERE BUT BRING THAT DOWN AS NORTH SOUTH AND HAVE THAT BE YOUR EAST WEST SO IT WOULD TIE UP HERE, AND COME THIS DREBS -- DIRECTION.

>> IS THERE ANY HOUSES OR PROPERTY?

>> NO HOUSES, THERE WOULD BE SOME PROPERTY.

BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING REALLY CLOSE WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS. AND DEFINITELY STAYING AWAY FROM

THIS TOWER. >> BACK ON MT. ZION WITH THE

CONFERENCE CENTER? >> YES, SIR.

YES, IT WOULD BE COMING DOWN RIGHT THROUGH HERE.

SO IT WOULDN'T INVOLVE ANY HOMES AND IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING WITH, THE POSSIBILITY OF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND BRINGING THIS DOWN. THERE'S ALREADY A MEDIAN OPENING THERE WITH A LEFT TURN IN PLACE. YES, SIR.

>> I MOVE TO CLOSE THE HEARING. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING. >> I THINK THE APPLICANT DOES

WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS. >> OKAY.

>> THANKS, TRENT. I'M TERRANCE JOBE.

I'M THE PRESIDENT AND OWNER WITH MY SON OF ALLUVIUM DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS OUR DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO DID HAWKINS MEADOW THAT YOU GUYS WERE REFERRING TO TO THE SOUTH.

I WAS MAKING A LOT OF NOTES AND THEY GOT KIND OF COMPRESSED AS I WAS GOING THROUGH HERE THERE WAS MORE AND MORE.

BUT I'D LIKE TO TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THEM.

TRENT DID A GREAT JOB. BUT THIS IS, WE DID A LOT OF PLANNING WITH THE CITY ON THIS AND SOME OF THIS WE'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE IN TUNE TO THE VERY MINUTIA, SOME OF THE SPECIFICS. FOR INSTANCE I'M GOING TO GO RIGHT TOWARDS THE REAR SETBACK. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

WE ARE 18 FEET, BUT THE ALLEY DOESN'T TAKE UP THE ENTIRE EASEMENT. SO THERE IS ANOTHER FOOT AND A HALF BEFORE WE GET TO THE PAVEMENT WHICH GIVES A TOTAL OF 19 AND A HALF FEET OF POSSIBLE PARKING WHICH IS THE SIZE OF A VERY MINIMUM GARAGE. AND I'M STRESSING THAT MINIMUM BECAUSE A FULL SIZE TRUCK WILL BARELY FIT THERE.

IT WILL, BUT IT JUST BARELY FITS HERE.

YOU HAVE BIG CATTLE GUARDS. >> WILL IT FIT IN A GARAGE?

>> MINE WON'T FIT IN MY GARAGE, BUT I HAVE CATTLE GUARDS AND IT'S 22 FEET LONG. SO IT WILL FIT MOST VEHICLES.

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IF WE NEED TO BUMP A COUPLE OF FEET TOWARDS THE FRONT.

PERSONALLY IT DOESN'T OFFEND ME TO HAVE A HOUSE IN THE FRONT AND A LITTLE MORE PARKING IN THE REAR.

THAT'S ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT.

ANOTHER DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE SMALL LOTS.

THESE ARE EXECUTIVE TYPE HOUSING.

THIS IS A CHANGING CITY. I LIVE HERE AND I LOVE THE SMALL TOWNESS AND I LOVE THE BIG LOTNESS AND I LIVE ON A HALF ACRE MYSELF. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE ON A LITTLE BITTY LOT. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DO.

SOME OF THEM ARE EXECUTIVES, SOME ARE NURSES, SOME ARE GOING TO BE TECHNICIANS AT THE HOSPITALS AND I CAN'T IMAGINE WHO ALL WANTS TO LIVE THERE BUT THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT.

BUT THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE SOME CHEAP LOW GRADE THING.

OUR BUILDER THAT'S IN HERE, THESE HOMES ARE RANGING 300 TO $350,000. THEY'RE NOT CHEAP HOUSING.

AND THE SIDE YARDS ON THEM ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS IN HAWKINS MEADOWS ON A 60-FOOT LOT WE HAVE A 50-FOOT HOUSE.

THERE'S TEN FEET BETWEEN THE HOUSES.

ON THESE LOTS THEY'RE 30-FOOT HOUSES AND THEY'RE STILL TEN FEET BETWEEN THE HOUSES. SO EXACTLY THE SAME.

THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THE ROOFTOPS WON'T BE ANY CLOSER TOGETHER THAN IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH HAWKINS MEADOW AND LOOK THROUGH THAT SUBDIVISION IT WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME.

THEY'RE JUST A SMALLER HOME. BUT THEY'RE NOT LOW QUALITY.

THIS IS NOT A RENTAL COMMUNITY. HOWEVER IT IS IN OUR VISION A LOCK AND LEAVE WHICH A LOT OF FOLKS MY AGE, I TRIED THE TOWN HOME, I'VE DONE IT AND I'VE LIVED IN IT.

I DIDN'T LIKE IT. BUT I'M NOT WHO I'M SELLING THE THING TO. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LOVE IT.

THEY WANT A SMALL, THESE ARE NOT ATTACHED BUT THEY HAVE KIND OF THAT SAME CONCEPT. THEY ARE A SMALLER, LESS MAINTENANCE HOME, BUT THEY'RE STILL EXPENSIVE AND THEY'RE STILL NICE. AS FAR AS THE GARAGE, THAT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE FOR US BECAUSE WE FIRST DESIGNED IT WITH ALL REAR ENTRY AND THE LAST TIME I WAS IN HERE, WE GOT A FEW DIFFERENT FOLKS HERE. BUT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN WE DON'T REALLY LIKE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES AND I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND I KNOW THAT. SO WE FIRST SAID WELL ON THAT PARK WOULDN'T IT BE NICE INSTEAD OF HAVING GARAGES ON THAT PARK, PEOPLE COULD SEE IT. AND WE ALL TALKED AND THE STAFF TALKED AND EVERYBODY SAID YES. AND THEN WHEN WE GOT IN FRONT OF P&Z THERE WAS A NEIGHBOR WHO HAD A POOL WHO SAID I HATE HAVING NO PRIVACY BACK THERE WITH THAT WROUGHT IRON FENCE SO WE SAID WE'LL PUT UP A BOARD ON BOARD WHICH HE WAS HAPPY AND THEN SOMEONE SAID WHY DON'T WE MAKE THOSE FRONT ENTRY, AND MY COMMENT WAS IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T MIND ALL OF THOSE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU IF WE WANTED TO GO BACK TO ALL REAR ENTRY GARAGES WE'LL DO THAT.

AND TO KEEP MY WORD TO THAT NEIGHBOR WE'D STILL PUT UP THAT FENCE BOARD ON BOARD WHERE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE PEOPLES GARAGES. SO THAT IS AN OPTION THAT WE CAN DO. IT IS A CATCH 22.

DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE PEOPLE LOOKING OUT OF THEIR BACKS OF THEIR HOUSES LOOK ING AT THE PARK, AND THE PEOPLE WALKING OUT OF THE PARK LOOKING AT THE BACKS OF A HOUSE, OR IS IT BETTER TO LOOK AT THEIR GARAGE DOOR AND TRASH TRUCKS DRIVING BY.

SO THAT'S A TOUGHY. BUT WE ARE WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE ON THAT IF THE COUNCIL ENTERTAINS OUR PROPOSAL.

WE HOPE YOU WILL. A COUPLE MORE THINGS.

I DON'T WANT TO COMPLETELY WEAR YOU OUT.

WE DID ZONE THIS BACK A FEW YEARS AGO ALL RETAIL.

AND THAT WAS AND YOU'RE MAYBE NOT GOING TO LIKE WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, BUT THAT WAS POST COVID. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE LIVE NOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE LIVE. I DO KNOW THAT ALL MY RETAIL PEOPLE I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE LAST FEW MONTHS, IT'S DEAD.

THERE'S JUST NOTHING. I'M A DEVELOPER, SO I'M AN OPTIMISTIC PERSON. I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK. I REALLY DO.

BUT WE FELT THIS WAS A GOOD SOLUTION TO USE UP SOME OF THAT.

WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF RETAIL. THERE'S ALREADY AN AWFUL LOT OUT THERE AND THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER NOW IT'S A LOT OF VACANT AND IT'S DISTURBING TO ME. I WON'T GO INTO THAT BUT IT'S TERRIBLE. BUT WE'RE RESILIENT AND MIDLOTHIAN IS A GREAT TOWN AND IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY AND IT'S GOING TO COME BACK. WE KNOW IT WILL.

BUT THAT BEING SAID WE BELIEVE THAT THE ROOFTOPS WILL HELP PROMOTE GOOD RETAILERS. WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE A GOOD DEAL OF IT LEFT. JUMPING ON FORWARD TO THE TWO STORIES, A COMMENT WAS MADE BY SOMEONE THAT TWO STORIES LOOKING

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ANY PLACE THAT BACKS TO RETAIL OR TO A ROAD IS BRICK FENCE.

THE REST OF THE FENCING IS NOT JUST WROUGHT IRON, IT'S WROUGHT IRON WITH BRICK COLUMNS. SO IT WILL BE QUITE NICE.

WE HAD THE OPTION OF WOOD FENCE BUT WE'D DO IT.

BUT IT'S AN INFERIOR PRODUCT TO WROUGHT IRON AND BRICK COLUMNS, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE COMMUNITY.

NOW NEXT TO THE PARKS LIKE LOT 14 AND LOT 15 AND UP AROUND THAT KIND OF THE ROTUNDA, IT'S NOT REALLY A ROTUNDA BUT THE CIRCULATION AREA THERE, WE DO HAVE WROUGHT IRON NEXT TO THE PARKS. BUT ONLY ON THE RETAIL AND THE MAJOR STREETS DO WE HAVE BRICK FENCES.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN LOOK AT MY REST OF MY NOTES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE MENTIONED WE HAVE A DOG PARK.

WE HAVE TWO PONDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FULL OF WATER.

TRAILS AROUND IT. I BELIEVE THAT TRENT COVERED MOST OF ALL OF THAT STUFF. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE.

I'M SURE YOU'RE TIRED OF ME TALKING BY NOW.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK ME QUESTIONS.

IT'S ALLOWED BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS THAT ARE TWO STORIES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY. AND WE CAN RESTRICT IT TO TWO STORIES. I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO BUILD ANYTHING OVER TWO STORIES.

IN FACT MOST OF THEM WILL BE ONE STORIES, ONE AND A HALF STORY.

THESE ARE DESIGNED FOR YOUNG EXECUTIVE TYPE PEOPLE AND EMPTY NESTERS. AND I KNOW I FOR ONE AM AN EMPTY NESTER AND I'M NOT CLIMBING THE STAIRS.

I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S REALLY NOT OUR MARKET.

THESE HAVE BEEN BUILT IN A SUBDIVISION IN NORTH ARLINGTON AND THE AVERAGE HOME WAS 1800 SQUARE FEET.

IT WAS IN VERIDIAN I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THE VERIDIAN PRODUCT. IT'S A VERY NICE LOOKING SUBDIVISION. YES, SIR.

>> THEY'VE GOT LITTLE BITTY LOTS TOO?

>> SAME SIZE. IT'S THE SAME PRODUCT.

IT'S THE SAME EXACT PRODUCT. YES, SIR.

THE GARAGES ARE I DON'T KNOW. WHATEVER THE CITY REQUIRES, WE'RE MEETING THE ORDINANCE. YES, SIR.

WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A VARIANCE ON THEM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT BUT THAT'S OUR ASSUMPTION.

YES, SIR. >> THE QUESTION I HAD ON THIS BLOCK B, LOTS 10-17 I BELIEVE THERE'S A SETBACK ON THE BACK OF FIVE FEET AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S BECAUSE THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES. I'M ASSUMING THERE'S SOME SORT OF AN EASEMENT BACK THERE, SO THOSE HOUSES COULD BE AS LITTLE AS 7, 8-FOOT OFF OF THAT BACK FENCE.

>> THAT WASN'T THE INTENTION. I HAVE MY ENGINEER HERE TONIGHT.

>> I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE IT DOES SHOW THAT CHANGE IN SETBACK FOR THAT BLOCK BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES.

IF YOU HAVE A FRONT ENTRY GARAGE IT HAS TO PUSH THE HOUSE BACK.

A LOT OF THESE OTHERS HAVE AN 18-FOOT SETBACK ON THE VICE VERSA BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT AN ALLEY.

I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY MIND AROUND SOME OF THESE HOUSES

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>> IS THAT TRUE, PHILLIP? DO YOU MIND IF I ASK MY ENGINEER

BECAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. >> SURE.

>> PHILLIP FISHER. THE MINIMUM SETBACK IS FIVE FEET. BUT THOSE HOMES ESPECIALLY THEY'RE ABOUT 20-FOOT DEEPER THAN THE REST OF THEM SO THEY'LL

LIKELY BE 15-FOOT. >> ABOUT 15-FOOT OFF THE BACK

FENCE. >> ANYMORE QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

>> I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR TRENTON IF THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> REAL QUICK OUR MINIMUM GARAGE SIZE IS 600 SQUARE FEET. AND THEY'RE JUST DOUBLE CHECKING

THAT. >> I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

IN THE MENTION OF THE DRIVE DEPTH I BELIEVE INCLUDING THE EASEMENT WAS ABOUT 19 AND A HALF FEET IS WHAT HE HAD STATED.

I JUST WANT TO WRAP MY MIND AROUND I REMEMBER US MAKING SOME CHANGES TO DRIVEWAY DEPTH ESPECIALLY FOR THIS IS ON ANOTHER SUBJECT FOR FRONT ENTRY GARAGES.

DIDN'T WE GO TO, I WANT TO SAY A 24-FOOT DRIVE DEPTH? OKAY AND THE MAIN REASON WE ADDED THAT LITTLE BIT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING TRUCKS HANGING OUT ON THE SIDEWALK AND EVEN INTO THE STREET SO HOW DOES THAT WORK IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE IF WE HAD TO GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO MAKE CHANGES TO THOSE STANDARDS ON OTHER APPLICATIONS. IT'S JUST A QUESTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANSWERED AT THE MOMENT BUT IT DID CROSS MY MIND.

THIS JUST SEEMS TO BE VERY, VERY TIGHT TO ME.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUILDERS -- I APOLOGIZE.

>> WE'VE GOT A MINIMUM, DON'T WE, TRENT?

>> WHEN YOU MENTION GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK,

UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES? >> FOR THE GARAGE BECAUSE I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THIS WHOLE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE IT MEETS UP WITH THIS GUY'S PROPERTY. THAT ROAD, ROAD A, ROAD B,

WHATEVER IT IS? >> WHICH ONES ARE YOU REFERRING

TO? >> GO TO THE SATELLITE PICTURE, TRENT. GO TO THE SATELLITE PICTURE.

THAT ROAD SHOULD DUMP OUT RIGHT THERE NEAR THIS METAL BUILDING.

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I THINK YES HE DOES UNDERSTOOD THERE'S GOING TO BE HOUSES IN HIS POOL. BUT HE DOESN'T UNDERSTOOD THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROAD. IT'S GOING TO BE BARRICADED IN.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S JUST BARRICADED IN. SO THEY CAN EXTEND IT ONE DAY.

>> AND I'LL ONLY ADD IF IT HELPS HIM AT ALL JUST TO BE HONEST I'M NOT GOING TO BUILD A SUPPORT 40-FOOT WIDE LOTS.

JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. PARDON?

>> THAT'S A DECISION YOU NEED TO MAKE --

>> YEAH, THAT'S MY CONCERN. I DON'T WANT TO MOVE THEM AWAY WITH A FALSE ASSUMPTION. THIS IS ALL WAY, WAY TOO TIGHT FOR ME PERSONALLY. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THIS.

I WANT TO BE FAIR WITH THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM HAVE TO WRAP BACK AROUND AND COME THROUGH THE WHOLE SYSTEM AGAIN. BUT WE'RE JUST REALLY STACKED IN THERE. AND I CAN ONLY TELL YOU SINCE WE'RE TALKING AMONGST COUNCIL NOW FOR MYSELF GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO ABOUT 2006 BEING ON THE P&Z I KNOW THAT WHEN WE CAME INTO '08 WE FIGURED ABOUT 70% OF OUR LOTS WERE ABOUT 70 TO 72-FOOT WIDE AND WE LIKED TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK.

WE THEN GRADUATED INTO 65S AND THEN TO 60S AND THEN TO 50S.

NOW WE'RE TALKING 40S. SO FOR ME THERE'S A STOPPING POINT AND I'M NOT MOVING INTO 40S.

HE IS CORRECT THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT.

BUT I ON THE SAME HAND THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CITIES THAT OFFER THAT OPPORTUNITY AND I CARE TO BE MIDLOTHIAN AND BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I DON'T MEAN TO BE LIKE MANSFIELD AND CEDAR HILL AND DUNCANVILLE AND DESOTO. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M LOOKING TO CREATE. THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY IT

DOESN'T MEAN I'M RIGHT. >> FOR AGRICULTURAL SINGLE FAMILY ONE, SINGLE FAMILY TWO, AND SINGLE FAMILY THREE, THEY REQUIRE THAT 600 SQUARE FEET FOR THE GARAGE.

ALL OF OUR OTHER DISTRICTS REQUIRE THE SF4 REQUIRES 450 SQUARE FEET. AND EVERY OTHER DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL 2.5 AND RESIDENTIAL 2.3 REQUIRE 450 SQUARE FEET.

THEN IT GOES DOWN WITH MULTIFAMILY IT GOES DOWN.

>> SO THIS ONE HAVING THE USE REGULATIONS OF SINGLE FAMILY

FOUR WOULD HAVE 450 SQUARE FEET. >> CORRECT.

>> THE OTHER MAIN ISSUE THAT I HAD DUE TO THE COMPACTNESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT WAS THE ROUGHLY 20-FOOT ACCESS POINT ON THE BACKS. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS ON THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES ON A LOT OF OUR OTHER SF AND IT'S BEEN A DISASTER. WE'VE TRIED TO FIX IT AND IN MY OPINION THE 22 TO 23-FOOT IS STILL TOO SHORT.

BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT.

WE KNOW 20-FOOT RANGE DOES NOT WORK.

AND WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES ON THOSE ALLEYS WITH VEHICLES HANGING OVER INTO THE ALLEYWAYS.

THAT'S MY OTHER MAIN SITUATION ON THIS.

>> I DON'T LIKE HOW IT'S 40-FOOT LOTS JUST STACKED IN THERE ALL TOGETHER. I DO LIKE, LIKE MIDTOWN FOR INSTANCE I CAN LIVE WITH A 40-FOOT LOT HERE AND THERE WITH SOME VARIETY. SO I THINK WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT I'M OF THAT SAME MINDSET OF IT JUST FEELS LIKE A

WHOLE LOT IN A SMALL AREA. >> DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON

40-FOOT LOTS? >> WELL I THINK, MY OPINION IS WE'RE ALL KIND OF THINKING THE SAME THING.

AND MAYBE I WILL RETRACT WHAT I SAID ABOUT LET THEM COME BACK AND GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE A MOTION, ARE WE READY FOR THAT?

>> NO. >> OKAY.

>> MIKE, WHAT SIDE BLOCK WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH -- SIZE BLOCK WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH 45S?

WAYNE SAYS NO. >> ALREADY WE'RE AT 50.

GOING BELOW THAT, 49 IS TOO MUCH.

>> SO NO, MIDTOWN HAS A RANGE. AND I ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT UP.

IT STARTS WITH 2200 SQUARE FEET LOTS, THEN IT GOES TO 2600 SQUARE FEET, 789200. SO IT'S ANYWHERE FROM 2200 TO

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BUT THEY CAN RANGE FROM THE MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE BEING INNER FROM 1300 SQUARE FOOT UP TO 2200 SQUARE FEET.

>> SAY THE LOTS AGAIN. >> FOR MIDTOWN?

>> YEAH. >> THE MINIMUM FOR THE LIVE WORK, I'LL START OFF WITH THE BROWN STONE, THAT'S MORE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BROWN STONE IS 2600 SQUARE FEET FOR THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND THE MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE IS 400 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE 0-FOOT SETBACK ON THE SIDES. REAR IS SEVEN FEET, 5 TO 7 FEET AND THE FRONT IS TEN FEET. IF THEY HAVE A PORCH THEY CAN EXTEND INTO THAT. THE COTTAGE HOMES ARE ALLOWED TO BE 4200 SQUARE FEET. THE VILLAGE IS 57-50 SQUARE FOOT. THE TOWNSHIP IS 7800 SQUARE FOOT AND THE ESTATES ARE 9200 SQUARE FOOT.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HURTS OR HELPS, BUT I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN MIDTOWN WAS APPROVED AND I VOTED AGAINST IT ON PLANNING AND ZONING DUE TO LOT SIZE.

>> I THINK AND THIS IS JUST MY OPINION I THINK THE REASON Y'ALL LIKE MIDTOWN SO MUCH IS BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK.

IT'S NOT THAT MUCH BIGGER OF A LOT IT JUST HAS A DEEPER

SETBACK. >> AND IT'S THE VARIANCE OF LOT

SIZES. >> HIS MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS

4,000. >> THESE ARE --

>> THERE'S 45. >> THESE ARE 45, 40, 40, 40, 40,

45. >> WE HAVE THAT IN EVERY SUBDIVISION. THE TWO WE APPROVED LAST WEEK

THE ACRES WERE ALL THE SAME. >> FOR ME I LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE I GREW UP IN A DEVELOPMENT, I LOOK AT THE TRACK AND TRY TO IMAGINE WHAT YOU PUT THERE. AND I SEE WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID. I'M NOT SAYING I'M IN LOVE WITH 40S BUT WE HAVE THIS ISSUE WHERE WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BUMPING.

AS WE GET CLOSER INTO TOWN, THE TRACKS AREN'T BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE THESE WIDTHS THAT WE WANT. I'M NOT SAYING WE GIVE THIS ONE A BREAK, BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR TRACK, YOU TALK ABOUT 45S, 50S, THAT'S FINE, HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE DO YOU WANT TO GIVE UP? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE. WE CAN TELL THEM TO COME BACK WITH 50-FOOT LOTS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE AND PARKS WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR TOO.

I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE WITH 40S BUT I THINK WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE NOT JUST LOT SIZE.

>> I THINK MORE COMING IN TRYING TO GET US TO PUSH THEIR LOT SIZE DOWN. WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON THIS STUFF, I WOULDN'T GO ANYTHING UNDER 70.

THAT WAS MY MINIMUM LOT. >> THAT WAS JUST EIGHT YEARS

AGO. >> AND I'VE BEEN PUSHED BACK DOWN TO 50 AND I CAN ACCEPT IT. BUT 40S I JUST CAN'T ACCEPT.

>> THAT'S FINE. >> YOU CAN MAKE IT 70 YOU JUST

LOSE GREEN SPACE. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THEM TO DO 70S I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

>> I WAS SAYING HYPOTHETICALLY. >> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> IS THAT TRUE, IF YOU TOOK AWAY THE GREEN SPACE YOU COULD DO 50S, WOULD THE DEVELOPER AGREE WITH THAT?

>> YEAH BUT THE OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU RUN INTO THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH ON THE GREEN SPACE IS WHEN YOU GET ON THAT HIGHLY DENSE OF A LOT, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE GREEN SPACE YOU HAVE NO GREEN SPACE IN YOUR YARD. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE GREEN

SPACE. >> I THINK IF WE TOOL IT WITH 50S OBVIOUSLY WE CAN DO 50S AND IT WILL CUT DOWN ON SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE. WE'RE DEVOTING QUITE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE TO IT. YOU KNOW THE ALTERNATIVE IS FOR US TO GO BACK TO SOME TYPE OF RETAIL USE AND WE DON'T KNOW

WHAT THAT IS RIGHT NOW. >> GIVEN THE LIFESTYLE OF PEOPLE LIVING THERE, WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE GREEN SPACE?

>> WELL WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, FOR ALL WE KNOW IT COULD BE A DOCTOR AND HI WIFE AND THEY MAY HAVE TWO KIDS AND DON'T WANT TO MOW A YARD. WE DON'T KNOW.

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> THE MIDTOWN I WAS LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION AND TRENTON TALKED A LOT ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE. SOME OF THOSE LOTS OVER THERE I

THINK ARE 20 FEET WIDE. >> I DON'T KNOW IN ARLINGTON

SOME OF THE THINGS ARE. >> I THINK THEY'RE 25S AND 30S.

>> WHERE IS THAT SIR? >> DUPLEXES.

>> IN MIDTOWNS, THEY HAVE SOME 20S.

BUT THE THING IS IT'S HOUSE TO HOUSE.

>> THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS WE COULD DO A PRODUCT LIKE THAT WHERE WE HAVE A BIG LOT AND WE DO ATTACH AND THERE'S TWO UNITS. IT WOULD MAKE THE HOUSES LOOK BIGGER AND IT WOULD GIVE A DIFFERENT APPEARANCE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DESIRABLE OR MORE DESIRABLE OR LESS DESIRABLE BUT AT LEAST WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE

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THE COUNCIL DID NOT LIKE IT AND WOULD NOT APPROVE IT.

BUT THEY DID APPROVE US DOING ATTACHED, WHERE THERE WAS FOUR UNITS TO A BUILDING. WHICH WAS SURPRISING.

>> AS IN -- >> A TOWN HOME.

AND I'M NOT BRINGING THAT UP TO PITCH IT TO YOU.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT REALLY JUST HAPPENED TO ME IN I WON'T SAY WHERE, IN ANOTHER CITY. BUT WE WERE SELLING THEM INDIVIDUALLY, FEE SIMPLE. BUT THEY WERE ATTACHED.

AND IT GIVES A DIFFERENT APPEARANCE BECAUSE IT'S MORE

MASS AND IT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK. >> RIGHT NEXT TO THE BLUE ORTHODONTIST, THEY'VE GOT THAT FOUR PLEX RIGHT THERE.

>> IN THE OTHER CITY THE END UNITS WERE 30 AND THE MIDDLE

ONES ARE 22. >> BUT YOU HAD FOUR OF THEM?

>> MOST OF THEM WERE 30. >> SO APPEARANCE WISE --

>> IT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK. AGAIN I'M NOT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE FROM THE PODIUM HERE I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS.

IT'S KIND OF LOOKING LIKE WE MIGHT NOT GET THIS APPROVED AND SO I'M THINKING WE CAN COME BACK AND CANVAS YOU AT A DIFFERENT

TIME. >> I'M THINKING THE ONE IN ARLINGTON YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE HOUSING, IT WAS AMAZING TO ME THAT YOU'VE GOT A 25-FOOT LOT AND YOU GO IN THE HOUSE YOU'RE FEELING LIKE A HOUSE IS ON A 40 OR 50-FOOT LOT THE WAY THE HOUSE IS BUILT. BUT LIKE I SAID IT'S WALL TO

WALL. >> I WILL SAY THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT. ALL OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS IN TOWN THAT ARE LIKE THIS HAVE RECENTLY BEEN SOLD OUT AND I

MEAN ALL OF THEM. >> THERE'S A MARKET FOR 0 LOT LINE. THERE'S A MARKET FOR EVERYTHING.

WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE UP OUR MIND WHO WE ARE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> SO WHAT IS STAFF

RECOMMENDING? >> SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

>> WHAT ARE Y'ALL RECOMMENDING? >> WE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN. ARE YOU ASKING MORE WHAT ARE WE

RECOMMENDING NOW? >> IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS -- SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO START ALL OVER.

>> ONE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT TAKING AWAY GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE IS ONCE YOU TAKE AWAY ALL OF THAT GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE THAT TAKES AWAY THE ESSENCE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND

-- >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO

BE ABLE TO FIX THIS RIGHT NOW. >> RIGHT.

SO I WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS TO DISCUSS THIS WITH EACH OTHER.

>> DO WE TABLE IT? OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT TO WORK OUT

ALL OF THIS GREEN SPACE ISSUES. >> THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. THEY REQUESTED TO WITHDRAW THE

APPLICATION. >> DO WE HAVE TO --

>> I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A WITHDRAWAL.

I CAN SEE THAT IT'S NO THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME TO DO THIS TYPE PRODUCT. WE CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH STAFF AND VISIT BACK WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS IN FULL SUPPORT.

WE THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING AND EVIDENTLY WE DID NOT.

>> I DON'T REALLY THINK YOU'RE THAT FAR OFF.

I JUST DON'T WANT YOU LEAVING HERE BELIEVING THAT FOLKS LIKE MYSELF THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A 70-FOOT WIDE LOT.

>> I'M NOT GETTING THAT SENSE AT ALL.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO OFFICIALLY WITHDRAW AT THIS

POINT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> SO THE APPLICANT HAS OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWN THE APPLICATION. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. 2020-296 IS THERE'S NO ACTION BECAUSE THERE'LL BE RESCHEDULED. WE GO TO THE REGULAR AGENDA

[2020-297]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

IF YOU'LL RECALL BACK ON JULY 14TH STAFF CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION ITEM IN REGARDS TO THE POTENTIAL

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JUST BRIEFLY THESE ARE THE AREAS WE TOUCHED ON BACK ON JULY 14TH WHICH INCLUDED AREAS THAT WERE OFF OF ONWARD ROAD, WALNUT GROVE AND MOCKINGBIRD AND MOCKINGBIRD LANE.

THESE AREAS ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN MIDLOTHIAN'S CC AREA.

WHEN YOU ADD IT UP YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 400 ACRES TOTAL WITH THESE PROPERTIES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY THE SARDIS SIDE AND THE AREAS SHOWN IN YELLOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL ACREAGE THERE'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 434 AND THE 113 ACRES FROM A LAND SIZE STANDPOINT HOWEVER WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL LOTS AND THIS IS BASED ON WHAT'S ZONED, SO THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT'S ZONED WITHIN SARDIS'S 113 ACRE.

YOU HAVE THE SOMERCREST WHICH WERE RECENTLY REZONED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 225 LOTS ON THAT 13 ACRES.

THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE SEWERED BY THE CITY.

WHEREAS THE AREA THE CITY IS LOOKING AT EXCHANGING RIGHT NOW, THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE ACTUALLY CAME TO COUNCIL I THINK IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO OR TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO, I BELIEVE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THIS IS CALLED HIDDEN LAKES AT MOCKINGBIRD AND THAT WAS ZONED AS ONE ACRE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, AND THAT ONE IS THIS 141 ACRES. SO YOU HAVE 141 ACRES.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF LOTS ON THAT 141 ACRES IT'S CLOSER TO THE 75. THE NUMBERS ARE COMING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE LOT COUNT. THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THESE AREAS OVER HERE. THIS AREA AND THIS AREA, THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED AG RIGHT NOW. SO COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER THE ZONING REQUEST ON THESE PROPERTIES WHEN IT DOES COME. SO AGAIN I BELIEVE THE LOT COUNT SHOULD BE FAIRLY COMPARABLE OR FAIRLY CLOSE EVEN THOUGH THE ACREAGE IS A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND SO THE ITEM THAT'S HERE BEFORE YOU IS ACTUALLY THE ACTUAL EXCHANGE AGREEMENT THAT WAS PREPARED.

IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED AND ACTION TAKEN BY SARDIS' BOARD AND THE GENERAL MANAGER HAS ACTUALLY EXECUTED THE AGREEMENT ON THE PREMISE IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE AGREEMENT WE WOULD HAVE IT IN PLACE AND WE WOULD WITHIN A THREE YEAR PERIOD WE WOULD LOOK AT TAKING THIS APPLICATION TO THE P&Z AND GET THE MAPS OFFICIALLY CHANGED BUT FOR NOW DURING THAT TIME WE CAN SERVE IN THE AREAS IF COUNCIL DOES AUTHORIZE THIS AGREEMENT.

WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS

COUNCIL MAY HAVE. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM PASSES 6-0. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

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>> ITEM 2020-298 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN TAX NOTES SERIES 2020 IN AN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT

TO EXCEED $1.5 MILLION. >> THIS SALES TAX, SORRY NOT SALES TAX. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SALES TAX BOND LATER. THIS IS NOT TO EXCEED 1.5 MILLION. THE PROJECTS ARE DESCRIBED IN SCHEDULE ONE OF THE ATTACHMENT THAT YOU HAVE THAT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION OF STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WIDENING STREETS, GUTTERS, SIDEWALKS, CURBS, RIGHT-OF-WAY DESIGN AND ANY LON SCAPING ASSOCIATING WITH HAWKINS RUN ROAD EXTENSION, MT. ZION REALIGNMENT, AND OLD FORT WORTH ROAD. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE INTEREST RATES CAME IN VERY FAVORABLY.

WE DID ISSUE FOR THE APPROXIMATE $1.5 MILLION AND THE TRUE INTEREST COST CAME OUT TO BE .906991%.

SO FOR A TWO YEAR BOND WE'RE ONLY PAYING ABOUT LESS THAN $9,800 IN INTEREST. SO I DON'T RECALL IN MY CAREER EVER SEEING THESE INTEREST RATES.

BUT I WILL LET MARK TALK TO YOU ABOUT THESE.

HE IS WITH SAMCO AND HE IS OUR BOND ADVISER.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARK.

I'M WITH SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS. I'VE BEEN HERE VERY OFTEN.

ALWAYS HAPPY TO BE HERE. THE CITY IS ALWAYS LOOKING GOOD.

AND YOUR FINANCES ALWAYS REMAIN STRONG.

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WE HAD SIX BIDS. THE BEST BID PER CITY SHORT TERM FUND WHICH IS A MUTUAL FUND, SMALL TEXAS BASED MUTUAL FUND, THEY BID, THIS IS AN AVERAGE RATE, .919.

TOTAL INTEREST WAS $10,589.72. THOSE COSTS ARE YOUR PAYING AGENT FEES. SOME PURCHASES THAT BUY IN FOR THEIR OWN ACCOUNT DON'T HAVE ANY AGENT FEES.

SO IN ORDER TO HAVE AN APPLE COMPARISON TO AN APPLE WE PUT ALL OF THE FEES INTO IT. SO THEY HAD $800, TOTAL NET TRUE INTEREST COST TO YOU ALL IS .989.

ONE OF THE ADJUSTMENTS WE MADE WAS TO MATCH YOUR EXACT GOAL FOR DEBT SERVICE IN YEAR ONE BY MOVING, WE MOVED I THINK IT WAS A MILLION 15 THAT OUR TARGET WAS WE MOVED MORE BONDS TARGET INTO THE FIRST YEAR BECAUSE INTEREST RATES WERE SO LOW.

MEANING NEXT YEAR THERE'S A BIGGER DROP IN YOUR TOTAL DEBT SERVICE. THESE WILL BE COMPLETELY PAID OFF BY FEBRUARY OF 2021. I'LL ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS EQUAL

MAY HAVE. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ITEM PASSES 5-1. >> THANK Y'ALL.

>> THANK YOU. ITEM 2020-299.

[2020-299]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL. THE FIRST STEP OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PAST COUPLE, SEVERAL MONTHS, EVEN A YEAR AGO IS ESTABLISHING, ACCEPTING A PETITION.

THE COUNCIL ACCEPTING A PETITION AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR THE CREATION OF REDDEN FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 372 FROM THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO PAY FOR AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS AND THOSE ARE WATER, WASTE WATER DRAINAGE, CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS AND SIDEWALKS, PARKS AND LANDSCAPING.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THEY CAN PAY FOR BUT THAT'S WHAT REDDEN FARMS WILL BE PAYING FOR. THIS SETS INTO MOTION QUITE A FEW THINGS. NUMBER ONE MAINLY BEING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 27TH.

THERE WILL BILLION A RESOLUTION OF PROVING THE CREATION OF THAT.

AND AFTER THIS THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES AS WELL.

WE REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE PETITION BUT THAT'S JUST ANOTHER STEP IN THE CREATION OF THIS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE AUTHORIZED COST ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW IS $20 MILLION THAT WILL BE AUTHORIZED.

THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT WILL MOMENT TO ABOUT $57 MILLION.

THAT WILL BE OUT OF THE DEVELOPERS POCKET.

WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATING TO THE BID

PETITION DOCUMENT. >> WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

JASON WHEAT. >> HI, MY NAME IS JACOB WHEAT AT 811 EAST GATE ROAD. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS BEFORE AND WANTED TO START WITH SAYING WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO EAST GATE.

THE REYNOLDS ASPHALT DID A QUALITY JOB OUT THERE.

WE WATCHED THEM DO THE JOB SO Y'ALL GOT A GOOD PRODUCT ON WHAT YOU PAID FOR THERE. THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE I WAS ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND Y'ALL HAD THE VISION OF CONTINUING TO KEEP THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK INSULATED ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THIS TYPE OF PROJECT BEING A CONCRETE PLANT WE HOPE TO GET A LOT OF CUSTOMERS OUT OF IT. AND SO THIS IS THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BEING A PART OF MIDLOTHIAN. JUST WANTED TO THINK AHEAD AS YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY DONE AND EVEN LOOKING AT SOME OF WHAT THE DESIGN PLAN CALLS FOR AS YOU GET RESIDENCES UP AGAINST AN

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>> TO THAT POINT UNRELATED TO THIS ITEM IS COUNCILMAN ROGERS AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE PLATTING HAPPENS ON THIS LOCATION AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PUTTING A NOTE ON THE REDDEN FARMS PLAT THAT IT IS ADJACENT TO EAST GATE INDUSTRIAL PARK. JUST A HEADS UP TO BOTH POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

RELATED TO THE PETITION. >> THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD AND IT'S JUST A KNOWLEDGE QUESTION.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL ON HOW YOU VIEW MONEYS THAT CHANGE HANDS ON HOW THEY'RE INVESTED WITHIN INFRASTRUCTURE PARKS AND SO FORTH. I ASSUME THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO HAVE ANY FORM OF JUSTIFICATION HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE INVESTIGATED ON THE FRONT END MEANING THAT THERE'S NEVER BEEN A SCENARIO WHERE A DEVELOPMENT TOOK IN DOLLARS AND THEN THOSE DIDN'T GO INTO AMENITIES OR WHATNOT OR THEY GOT INTO A PROBLEM WITHIN THE ECONOMY, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

>> THIS ALL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

THEIR SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THERE'S A LOT OF OVERSIGHT ON THIS.

>> IN OTHER WORDS THAT FUNDING AND HOW THE MONEY IS PLACED INTO ASSETS, THERE'S GUIDELINES FOR THAT? OKAY. OKAY.

>> I'LL COVER THEM ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AS WELL.

>> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE, DO I HAVE

A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >> ITEM 2020-300 CONSIDER AND

[2020-300]

OF APPROXIMATELY 253 ACRES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ONCE AGAIN WHAT WE JUST DID WAS SET A PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR SEPTEMBER 22ND FOR THE PIT CREATION.

THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT PIT CREATION DOCUMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. WE HAVE MARY PETTY THAT THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED HER TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF IN THE NEGOTIATIONS PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER.

WE APPROVED THAT SO IT'S BEEN VERY FRUITFUL DISCUSSION.

THIS IS ABOUT PROBABLY 120 PAGE DOCUMENT.

I'LL GO THROUGH IT WORD BY WORD. NO.

BUT REALLY THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT OUTLINES ONCE AGAIN I GO BACK TO THE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENT COSTS ARE ABOUT $20 MILLION. THE TOTAL COST IS 57,000,500 ROUGHLY. AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS ARE THESE ACTUAL HARD IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN THE ABILITY TO BE REIMBURSED FOR A PORTION OF THE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AND THEY'VE GOTTEN.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN USING SEVERAL CONSULTANTS.

BUT SOME OF THE THINGS COMING UP WILL BE AN ADOPTION OF A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN FROM EACH OF THESE PIT BONDS WILL BE IN THE AMOUNT THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO ESTABLISH AND MIKE TO YOUR POINT AN AMOUNT SUFFICIENT TO ESTABLISH AN INPUT AS A PHASE BY PHASE BASIS. AND THEN A DELIVERY OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE CITY LIKE ANY DEVELOPER WOULD DO AT A FINAL PLAT STAGE. HERE'S OUR ROADWAYS, HERE'S OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SIGN OFF ON THAT.

THEY WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ACCORDING TO ALL OF OUR STANDARDS. AND THE DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS.

THE CITY'S DETERMINED THERE WILL BE NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE

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IT DOES ALSO WITH THE CLOSING OF THE PIT BONDS THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL SECURITY AND THE CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION AGREEMENT WITH THAT. AND IF YOU RECALL WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE DIAMOND J ISSUE IN DECEMBER ABOUT THE BANK QUALIFICATION ISSUE, THIS HAS THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE AS WELL BUT NOW WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO AGGREGATE TO THE DIFFERENT SPECIAL DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN ANNUALLY AND DETERMINE WHAT THEIR BOND SALES ARE PROPOSING TO BE. WHAT OUR BOND SALES ARE PROPOSING TO BE AND MITIGATE THAT BANK QUALIFICATION ISSUE.

THAT IS KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL I WILL ADDRESS THEM

OR THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND IT'S MORE FOR LEARNING. ON THE IMPACT FEES.

>> YES, SIR. >> IN THE AGREEMENT, IF WE EVER RAISE THOSE, DO THEY GO UP TOO OR ARE THEY SET AT THAT RATE?

>> THEY ARE SET AT THAT RATE. THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

>> THEY SAID THAT'S PROBABLY -- >> YES, SIR.

SO THE WATER IS AT 2,000, SEWER IS AT 3,000 AND THE ROADWAY IS

AT 2500. >> SO THAT'S LOCKED IN NO MATTER

HOW LONG IT TAKES. >> YES, SIR, PER THIS

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. >> AND STAFF CERTIFIES THAT WE'RE HELD HARMLESS THROUGH THE FINANCIALS OF THIS FOR WHAT WE

HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE? >> YES.

THERE IS NO MECHANISM FOR PROPERTY TAXES, ET CETERA, TO HAVE TO COVER THIS. IT'S ONLY FROM THE PIT

ASSESSMENTS. >> I'M SORRY.

I FORGOT, BUT IT GOES TO THE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT THEN THE AGGREGATE TAX RATE WILL NOT EXCEED $3 PER EVALUATION. THAT'S ON THE COUNTY, THE CITY

AS WELL. >> COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

OR COMMENTS? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND. >> SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6-0.

. >> EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY PASSED I WANT TO BE SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS AND PRETTY PICTURES ARE PART OF THE PROPERTY AGREEMENT.

WE DID GET THOSE IN THERE AS THEY WILL BE IN THERE AND WE WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE INSTALLED ACCORDINGLY.

>> WHAT IS PUBLISHED AND WHAT IS PRIVATE?

>> IT'S LISTED IN THE AGREEMENT. >> NEVER MIND.

>> THE ROADS ARE PRETTY MUCH ALL PUBLIC.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS YELLOW AREA THAT IS BEHIND PRIVATE GATES.

IF THERE'S A WATER LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH CONTINUALLY, THAT COULD BE PUBLIC BUT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LINES AND EVERYTHING ARE GOING TO BE PRIVATE. THIS TARRANT REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING AN ACCESS EASEMENT ON TOP OF THAT SO IT CAN CONTINUE OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS.

>> THANK YOU. ITEM 2020-301 CONSIDER AND ACT

[2020-301]

CORPORATION MCDC. >> NOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SALES TAX BONDS. EARLIER THIS EVENING THERE WAS A MEETING BY THE MCDC BOARD THAT WAS HELD AT 4:00 P.M. AT THAT MEETING THEY APPROVED THE SALE OF THE $5 MILLION BONDS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY PARK PHASE TWO PROJECT. AGAIN WE HAD VERY FAVORABLE BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT OR FOR THIS BOND SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE CITY GOT ON A SHORT TERM BOND.

BUT REMEMBER THESE ARE LONGER TERM BONDS AND THEY ARE BACKED SOLELY BY SALES TAX. IF YOU'LL RECALL THE OTHER BONDS THAT THE MCDC HAS HAD ROUGHLY 4%.

[01:35:03]

BUT JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THAT TO YOU.

>> MARK WITH SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS.

WE DID GO OUT AND OFFERED THE CDC BONDS, HILLTOP SECURITIES WHICH IS FORMERLY FIRST SOUTHWEST COMPANY WHICH IS THE PURCHASER OF THOSE BONDS. WE RAN NUMBERS PRELIMINARY WITH THE CDC AND BUDGETING AT THREE AND A QUARTER.

WE CAME IN AT 2.3% WHICH MEANS BASICALLY THE BUDGET THAT THEY WERE OPERATING UNDER WAS 345,000 A YEAR AND IT CAME IN AT ABOUT 320,000 A YEAR. ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WAS APPROVED WAS THEM PAYING OFF THEIR EXISTING BONDS WITH THEIR PAYMENTS OF $380,000 A YEAR. SO NET THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE THAT THE CDC IS GOING TO BE PAYING GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS PRIOR TO THIS SALE.

NOW OF COURSE WE'RE GETTING $5 MILLION AND THIS LOAN IS NOW 20 YEARS WHERE THE ONE WE'RE PAYING OFF AT FOUR YEARS LEFT.

THEY FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THE CASH FLOW POSITION THAT THAT WAS A SMART MOVE TO MAKE. WE'RE REPLACING THESE AT THE 230. THE CDC'S BOND RATING CAME IN AT A PLUS. THEY WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, THE SALES TAX. ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SALES TAX TO PAY THESE BONDS. NO AD VALOREM TAX SO THEY CAN ONLY LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY WITH SALES TAX.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR A CDC TO BE AN A PLUS WHEN THE CITY IS A DOUBLE A. THE CITY HAS MORE REVENUE SOURCES AD VALOREM, REVENUE TAX, WATER, SEWER.

WE SOLD MORE THAN WAS AVAILABLE SO THEY WERE ABLE TO LOWER THE INTEREST RATE AS A FINAL PURCHASE PRICE.

SO WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS PARTICULARLY VERSUS BUDGET AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE CDC'S ACTION.

I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> THESE PAYMENTS ARE ABOUT 320,000 OFF OF BUDGET WE ARE

340, 345. >> I'M THINKING OF THE STANDPOINT ON WHAT WAS LEFT ON THE.

>> THOSE PAYMENTS ARE $380,000. >> THE CONVENTION CENTER BALANCE SAVED ABOUT 40 GRAND OFF WHERE THEY WERE, DIDN'T IT?

>> THOSE WERE 380,000 A YEAR SO WE'RE DOWN TO 325.

>> SO BASICALLY IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

EXCELLENT. >> ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY IS YOU

KEEP DOING THE GOOD WORK. >> I HAVE A LOT TO WORK WITH.

YOUR STAFF IS EXCELLENT. BUT YOUR FINANCES HERE, YOU ALWAYS MAINTAIN GREAT FUND BALANCES.

YOU ADD TO THE FUND BALANCE, YOUR RATING REMAINS VERY STRONG.

WHEN COVID HIT THERE'S LOTS OF CONCERNS ABOUT ANYBODY SETTLING SALES TAX SUPPORTED BONUS, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW IF THERE'S AN OCCURRENCE.

BUT THE FAITH IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY KNOW WE CAN'T COME TO THE CITY AND ASK FOR PAYMENT, BUT THEY'RE SITTING ON A NICE CASH SURPLUS FOR EVENTS LIKE COVID OR A TORNADO OR WHATEVER MAY COME IN. BUSINESS, PEOPLE OPERATING THE CITY FROM YOUR OWN STANDPOINT AS WELL AS FROM STAFF HAS BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE OVER THE YEARS AND THERE'S LOTS OF FAITH IN THE

INVESTING COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ITEM 2020-302. --

>> MAYOR YOU NEED TO -- >> I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> I'M SORRY. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> MOTION AND SECONDED.

MY APOLOGIES. PLEASE VOTE.

LET'S SEE WHO'S AWAKE THERE. SO IT PASSES 6-0.

MY APOLOGIES AGAIN. AND WE'LL MOVE ON.

I'M JUST NOT USED TO THESE RATES.

[2020-302]

[01:40:02]

FOR CORONAVIRUS RELATED COSTS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF FUNDS THAT WERE CREATED FEDERALLY AND THEN PASSED DOWN TO THE STATES.

BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE CITY OUR FUNDS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE NEEDING REIMBURSEMENT FOR WILL BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE STATE.

SO JUST A LITTLE HISTORY THE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED IN TOTAL FOR MIDLOTHIAN ARE A LITTLE OVER 1.5 MILLION AND IT WAS BASED ON OUR POPULATION. IT WAS $55 PER OUR POPULATION.

THE CITY CAN DRAW DOWN 20% AND HAVE NOT SPENT A DIME.

HOWEVER THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING.

THE FUNDS, IF WE DREW THEM DOWN WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEM BACK, IF WE DID NOT EXPEND THEM. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE ACCUMULATE THE EXPENDITURES AND THEN BEFORE 1231 AT SOME POINT ASK FOR THE REUM -- REIMBURSEMENT.

RIGHT NOW THE CITY HAS ROUGHLY 60,000 TO $70,000 WORTH OF EXPENSES. WE WERE NOT IMPACTED BY COVID AS MUCH AS THE CITIES AROUND US. MOST OF THAT IS FIREFIGHTER OVERTIME TO COVER FOR PEOPLE BEING IN QUARANTINE.

BUT THE EXPENDITURES, I PERSONALLY BEING CONSERVATIVE, I DON'T WANT TO DRAW FUNDS IF WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THEM AND RIGHT NOW HERE WE ARE IN AUGUST AND WE'VE NOT INCURRED VERY MUCH. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS APPROVED SO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AT THE POINT THAT WE DECIDE TO DRAW THOSE FUNDS, WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS OF WHAT WE MIGHT CAN DO WITH SOME OF THOSE FUNDS. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE'VE DONE AS WE'VE PAID FOR OVERTIME FOR SOME OF OUR STAFF.

BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

>> I LIKE THE STRATEGY. I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ITEM 2020-303.

[2020-303]

>> SO THIS IS AN ITEM PRIMARILY TO DISCUSS, KIND OF GO THROUGH WHAT THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE WE LAST MET AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY INPUT.

WE DO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING PROPOSED FOR THE ACTUAL PROPOSED TAX RATE AND THE BUDGET ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

THE NOTICES OF THOSE MEETINGS AT THE TAX RATE AND THE OPERATING BUDGET HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE AND ALSO ON OUR NEWSPAPERS OF RECORD. WE HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES AND I'LL COME THROUGH THOSE BUT IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY JUST STOP ME. THE ATTACHMENTS ARE A GENERAL FUND CHANGE SHEET THAT WOULD GO THROUGH AND SHOW WHAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY MODIFIED. THERE'S A RECOMMENDED USE OF UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE OF $581,331.

WE HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO REVENUE.

WE HAVE GONE IN AND WE HAVE OTHER THAN THE AD VALOREM TAX RATE ITSELF THAT WAS THE FINAL NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

WE DID GET THOSE FINAL CALCULATIONS FROM THE APPRAISAL

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THERE'S A FINAL CALL VOLUME SPLIT UNDER RED OAK CONTRACT IF YOU'LL RECALL THE NEEDS CENTER. THAT SPLIT OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES IS BASED ON NUMBER OF CALLS.

SO WE HAD THAT FINAL REPORT. THE REVENUE REBATE AGAIN BASED ON THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND OUR VALUATION, THAT IS $96,887 ADJUSTMENT. AND THEN WE REDUCED OUR INTEREST ESTIMATE DOWNWARD BASED ON WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING IN REVENUES. WE DID IN THE EXPENDITURE SIDE ON THE GENERAL FUND ADD AS DIRECTED THE HEROES OF MIDLOTHIAN FOR A CONTRIBUTION OF $7,500.

WE DO HAVE AN UPDATED PAYMENT WHICH ROUGHLY EQUALS WHAT YOU SAW IN THE REVENUE ABOVE. WE HAVE SOME SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULING SOFTWARE OF 4400.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE FUNDS THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRANSFER TO THE RADIO FUND, THAT WILL BE THE NEW FUND THAT WE'RE SETTING UP FOR THE DISPATCH CENTER. SO OVERALL AGAIN WE SHOW A USE OF UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE OVER APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILLION.

IN THE UTILITY FUND, WE ARE SHOWING THERE AS WELL A USE OF UNDERSERVED FUND BALANCE IN EXCESS OF $1 MILLION.

WE'VE ADJUSTED OUR, WE HAVEN'T ADJUSTED A WHOLE LOT ON THAT ONE. BUT WE ARE SHOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING FUND BALANCE THERE.

THE THIRD PAGE ATTACHMENT, I GUESS FOURTH, AND ON THROUGH A FEW PAGES IS THE PAY SCHEDULE ITSELF.

IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE COMPONENTS.

THERE'S A GENERAL GOVERNMENT PAY SCHEDULE.

THEN THERE'S ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY STEP PLANS.

THE MAIN CHANGES THAT YOU WILL SEE AND THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED ARE JUST SOME PRIMARILY THE ADDITION OF SOME NEW TITLES FOR POSITIONS, NOT NECESSARILY THAT THOSE WILL BE FILLED RIGHT NOW BUT TO ADD THEM TO OUR LIST OF SCHEDULES.

AND THEN ALSO WE RECLASSIFIED ONE JOB FROM A NONEXEMPT TO EXEMPT BASED ON THE DUTIES AND THE SALARY OF THAT POSITION.

AND THEN THE PRIMARY CHANGE IS ADDING OR UPGRADING A POSITION, RECLASSING A POSITION TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. SO I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE FOR THE BUDGET AND THE TAX PUBLICATION.

AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN IN THE LAW WE HAVE TO WRITE IT AS A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON TAX INCREASE. HOWEVER YOUR TAX RATE HAS DECREASED. BUT DEPENDING ON A PERSON'S VALUATION THEY MIGHT HAVE AN INCREASE IN THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL SO WE HAVE TO WORD IT THIS WAY.

BUT I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT IN CASE THAT CONFUSED SOME OF THE PUBLIC AS TO WHY IT'S WORDED THAT WAY WITH A TAX RATE DECREASE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I JUST WANTED TO ADD, YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS, BUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY PAY PLANS.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT. >> BASED ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON THE 3% MERIT, THESE PLANS REPRESENT A 3% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD. SO EVERY STEP WENT UP 3% SO WITH THE STARTING PAY ALL THE WAY UP SO THAT NOTHING FELL BETWEEN STEPS. THE STEPS ARE 4%.

SO WHEN WE PROPOSED THE 3% INCREASE THAT WOULD HAVE LEFT EVERYBODY FALLING BETWEEN THE STEPS.

SO INSTEAD WE JUST LEFT EVERYBODY ON THEIR SAME STEP AND MOVED THE PAY PLAN 3%. AND THAT'S WHY THESE PAY PLANS

THEY ALL REFLECT A 3% CHANGE. >> THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE NUMBER AND SO IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, HYPOTHETICALLY IF WE WOULD HAVE LEFT THE TAX RATE THE SAME AS LAST YEAR WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE GONE TO THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL.

AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? >> WELL.

>> IT WOULD HAVE DEPENDED ON THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WAS ISSUED.

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>> BECAUSE IT'S REFERRING TO A TOTAL.

>> GOTCHA. >> OF BOTH THE INTEREST AND THE

MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. >> IF WE GO 4% WE COULD JUST INCREASE, JUST MOVE ALL THE STEPS UP AND KEEP US IN COMPETITION WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AROUND TRYING TO GET

INVOLVED. >> 1% IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IS

ABOUT 180,000. >> IT'S 186,000 ACROSS THE BOARD. AND UNDER TWO DAYS OF FUND BALANCE. IT'S ROUGHLY 60,000 NOT EXACTLY BUT 60,000 FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, 60,000 FOR FIRE AND

60,000 FOR POLICE. >> WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE WITH

THE THREE RIGHT NOW? >> THE ENDING FUND BALANCE I BELIEVE WAS STILL GOING TO BE OVER 180 DAYS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER

BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE A 180. >> I DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH ME

EITHER. >> THAT FOUR WOULD BE FOR EVERYBODY FROM FIREFIGHTERS, POLICEMEN, EVERYBODY, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE FOR

EVERYBODY. >> I'M JUST MAKING SURE.

>> HE'S DOING IT FOR HIS STEPS TO KEEP US COMPETITIVE.

>> SO EVERYONE WOULD STAY ON THE SAME STEP.

IT'S JUST WHAT WE WERE ALREADY DOING WE JUST ADDED 1%.

>> YEAH, BUT IF I UNDERSTOOD YOUR PROPOSAL CORRECTLY YOU'RE WANTING TO MOVE THE ENTRY PAY UP 4% SO THAT WOULD MOVE THE WHOLE PAY PLAN. SO EVERYBODY WOULD STAY ON THEIR SAME STEP NUMBER SO THEY WOULD STILL GET A 4% INCREASE.

>> BASICALLY WE'RE JUST ADDING 1%.

>> I CAN AGREE WITH THAT. >> AND THE 1% IS 100,000?

>> 186. >> SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE'VE DONE A, I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF THEM.

BUT I DON'T REMEMBER ONE IN A WHILE --

>> THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE COMPARISON WAS IN 2017.

SO WE'RE THREE YEARS FROM THE LAST ONE.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE YEARS BEFORE WE DO THAT.

>> AND WHEN WAS THE, HAVE WE BEEN, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, HAVE WE BEEN PROVIDING A 2% TO 3% INCREASE YEARLY FOR THE LAST

THREE YEARS? >> IT'S BEEN FOUR BASED ON THE BUDGETS, THE STEP PLANS WERE SET UP AT 4% INTERVALS.

>> OKAY SO BY GOING TO FOUR WE'D BE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

>> CORRECT. >> WE WENT UP FOUR LAST YEAR?

>> I SUPPORT IT. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> SECOND. >> ITEM PASSES WITH THE AMENDMENT 6-0. THANK YOU.

[Executive Session]

WE'RE DOING PROJECTS 2009 AND 1906.

GENTLEMEN, SECTION 551.072 REAL ESTATE DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL ESTATE TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN. SO WE'RE

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>>> I'VE DIRECTED STAFF TO PROCEED WITH PROJECT MOON DRIVER AND WE'VE DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRERPGS OF ABATEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PROJECT -- PREPARATION ABATEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PROJECT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.